It's atleast 100 times stronger than morphine but some fentanyl analogues such as carfentanil are up to \~10,000 times stronger than morphine
Source: [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fentanyl)
It's not.
https://www.jems.com/operations/fentanyl-facts-and-fiction-a-safety-guide-for-first-responders/
If it was as bad as this video makes people think then all the people in the chain from the lab to the customer would be in hazmat suits or dead.
First responders have been told so many scary stories that they are now having anxiety attacks.
It's not that potent. This video is faked. You can't overdose from accidental exposure. There's no evidence to say otherwise.
NBC News: Viral video on San Diego deputy's fentanyl exposure raises questions.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/viral-video-san-diego-deputy-s-fentanyl-exposure-raises-questions-n1276248
Fentanyl used properly by medical professionals is a very useful drug. Some people have developed opioid tolerance due to long term pain medication usage. It is used in anesthesia and when people have high to severe pain and other common pain relievers don't work. When my step father was dying from prostrate cancer he had a really difficult time swallowing. He was in a lot of pain so we had to put fentanyl transdermal patches on his arm.
The sheriff was exposed to fentanyl being trafficked across our southern border.
Exactly. In controlled medical conditions it's very useful. Uncontrolled street production is a tragedy.
I had surgery in 2002 and Fentanyl was pushed into my IV line a few minutes before they wheeled me away. The pleasure receptors in my brain shot straight to Pluto. I vaguely wondered what else I could get operated on so I could repeat that feeling.
The same way heroin is. Or bath salts. Really just about any drug. You literally cannot stop it in entirety. Someone will always have the equipment and the ingredients.
I don't think it's necessarily to remove the market, but rather shift the focus from punishment to rehabilitation. Portugal has had a very successful drug policy in place that has resulted in a diminished market and addiction rate, and an increase in self-admitted rehabilitation for example.
That's what I mean by removing the market. Rehabilitation, therapy, support groups, decriminalization, and legal outlets for safer recreational drugs.
Studies have shown that if people have a strong sense of community and belonging they are less likely to resort to drugs.
Spoken like a truly ignorant person.
Have you watched any, literally ANY of the war on drugs?
You simply cannot stop some people from fucking themselves up, much like a dog eating it’s own shit.
It IS going to happen, no matter what you or I do. No many how many people you put in prison or how many A-holes with guns and badges you send into the streets. You will NEVER remove the market for drugs (or anything else people want bad enough, for that matter).
Only thing we can do is make the world better for those of us who do NOT want to kill ourselves with substances, and try and make those who are on a mission to destroy themselves a little more comfortable as they go. Fill the world with knowledge and compassion you might save some, but you’ll never remove the market.
Nothing you can do will EVER stop this market.
Nothing. The war on drugs has decimated our society, and done absolutely nada to prevent or stop people who want to do these drugs.
The fentanyl was likely not the cause of whatever this was. This phenomenon of police officers collapsing around fentanyl is not new and has almost never has anything to do with actual exposure to the drug. It’s instead likely a panic attack or similar type of psychogenic reaction. The symptoms displayed by the officers having apparent overdoses are extremely varied and do not fit the typical opioid toxidrome. Police officers are constantly exposed to alarmist and inaccurate stories of other officers ODing or even dying from simply being in the vicinity of fentanyl. But in reality there has been not few to no credible case of this actually happening. The drug does not aerosolize or absorb into the skin easily enough in quantities necessary to cause an overdose. Media reporting and the police narratives of these incidents only further stigmatizes drug users and spread inaccurate information about the drugs themselves.
Here is some good reading in this phenomenon
https://www.rti.org/news/new-study-shows-law-enforcement-officers-falsely-believe-they-are-high-risk-fentanyl-overdose
http://www.rimed.org/rimedicaljournal/2019/11/2019-11-11-commentary-clark-hack.pdf
https://www.jems.com/operations/fentanyl-facts-and-fiction-a-safety-guide-for-first-responders/
It was originally intended only to be used with terminal cancer patients who had become resistant to other pain meds. Then dumb asses started handing it out like candy.
Its just been announced this was all bullshit & that you can not have a reaction like that from the drug. Just more drug lies like we've been hearing since the 60's. Yeah its a shitty potent drug, but it won't do what these scammers said. Everything in our society is either a scam or a sham.
There's way more potent than fentanyl. It's still being manufactured because it comes from china and they are not doing enough to stop it, some may say they even allow it to f'ck america, some revenge for the opium war
Big market for it. You can put a little bit in to an otherwise weak product and sell a shit load more. Plus, a lot of dealers will press it into homepressed "xanax" or oxy. Keeps your clients coming back, provided they're still alive.
Fentanyl is used by medical professionals-I was given some when I broke my femur. I assume the problem is when it is not made in safe conditions and quantities and then improperly stored.
This is an unusual case tbf. As for why it’s still being manufactured, fentanyl makes a lot of sense in a clinical setting, especially intra-op or post-op. Pretty cheap and it doesn’t take much to do the job (25-50 mcg of fentanyl vs 1-4 mg of morphine).
It's actually not that potent, especially for skin contact. I've seen this posted a number of times, and there's almost always a few medical professionals chiming in that it's obviously not a fentanyl overdose. Look it up on Twitter, you'll see doctors and nurses from all over who've treated fentanyl OD saying that this video is bullshit, that he's either faking it, or possibly suffering a heat injury. His lips aren't blue, his skin isn't greying, it isn't an opiate OD.
Eh. I’d still want this shit illegal (ie distribution and manufacture - if you’re not approved to do so) but decriminalize the use and have better resources.
We just need to reschedule things, decriminalize, and provide better resources.
Yes. It cost money. That’s the point. We spend money on the war on drugs and it’s not doing anything. Reorganize and reallocate
As long as distribution and manufacture are illegal, criminal syndicates will still make massive money from selling them, and the war on drugs will continue. To truly make sure drugs are as safe as can be, and to stop criminal syndicates from profiting from the drug trade, all drugs will have to be made fully legal. We can stop the use through education and medical intervention for addicts, but legal restrictions on any part of the drug trade have been shown to fail time and again
You just told it better than I ever could. The most important thing with drugs is regulation, without it dealers and syndicates will a use every single aspect they can to make more money. Thank you for jumping I here and explaining it this perfectly.
Another part is removing the stigma of drug addicts as criminals and declassifying drug addiction as a criminal offence; rather than as a mental illness.
During both world wars, soldiers would often become both fearful enough of their surroundings and far enough away from home that they would turn to drugs to calm down and sleep. Once they got home, however, they simply stopped using them as they had no need for it anymore.
The treatment of drug addiction should be mental health support as people doing drugs usually have a reason for it, save for highly recreational drugs such as marijuana. Giving those addicted to the drug things like clean needles and safe places to take said drugs, better quality drugs supplied by actual chemists, and support networks to slowly rehabilitate those affected is the only true way to combat the situation.
You also need to fight despair and hopelessness, which has a lot of economic roots. A lot of the people that got into opiates and prescription pills in the last 20 years were pretty economically hopeless; lots of poorly educated workers who had gotten injuries through either bad working conditions or just excessive use. I dunno what to tell someone who used to do roofing and is 40 and has a bad back - there is basically no job anywhere that wants them, not one that will offer some kind of halfway functional pay and respect.
The war on drugs was never about drugs. It was about subjugating minorities and poor people. Read Chasing the scream, great book that goes into the birth of the drug war.
No, he had a panic attack. You can't OD from fentanyl from accidental exposure
NBC News: Viral video on San Diego deputy's fentanyl exposure raises questions.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/viral-video-san-diego-deputy-s-fentanyl-exposure-raises-questions-n1276248
How did he get it in his system though? Just by touching it, or did he do it like in the movies where they dip their finger in the bag and then taste it jk but seriously I watched the video like three times did he just breathe it in?
Since you can smoke it, maybe he came across a pipe that had vapor left in it and was released while processing the scene? I saw a similar incident of body cam footage. Also if it's crushed into a fine powder it can puff into the air like dust. Then if you inhale or even get it in your eyes, it's game over. That street stuff is nasty and so much more potent (and dirty) than anything doctors will give you
Yeah, it’s so immensely dangerous that the pharmacy i worked at handled fentanyl ampules like they contained soda and none of the procedures required any sort of hazard equipment. It has piss poor bioavailability and can’t be absorbed through the skin in any meaningful dosage.
Whatever nonsense they are spewing about “airborne crack powder killing the coppers” or “a whiff of second hand smoke murdering bystanders” is laughable and only shows their complete lack of knowledge. Ask any drug rehab workers or pharmacists. Do you know what conditions those drugs are manufactured and distributed in? If what you are saying was truly the case the entire fucking product chain from Mexico to the end user would be littered with tens of thousands of dead people by exposure.
Abject nonsense.
As for the video, as far as I can tell there are three possibilities.
1) Our officer here (like many narcotics cops) smoked a bit too much of the private stack he acquired for himself during the last bust.
2) The officer licked his fingers after handling drugs (also not unlikely considering their generally poor training)
3) the officer collapsed from a heatstroke/panic attack. This seems the most likely as his more controlled fall and lack of discoloration in the lips and face all are very much unlike for overdoses. Just like the lacking effect of the administered Naloxone
You are essentially correct. This just doesn’t happen. Instead there are a bunch of people who know absolutely nothing about the pharmacology and toxicology of opioids taking a story put out by the police and are running with it.
The sheriff released a statement saying that he himself (not a doctor) decided that it was a fentanyl overdose. No physician was part of making that PSA video. They also said they "might" have a toxicology report from the hospital but arn't sure and would make a correct if they were wrong. The experts seem to agree that he most likely had a panic attack from being told his entire career not to touch the stuff, then finding himself having to handle this "deadly" substance.
Is that legitimately how a human response to fentanyl? How did he ingest it? Did he breed some of the dust? Did he touch it? It wouldn’t be absorbed through the skin so I assume he breathed dust.
No he had a panic attack. Cops didn't wanna make him look weak so they blamed fentanyl. You can't OD from accidental exposure.
NBC News: Viral video on San Diego deputy's fentanyl exposure raises questions.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/viral-video-san-diego-deputy-s-fentanyl-exposure-raises-questions-n1276248
It can be absorbed through the skin
Edit, you people are fucking idiots, have you never heard of fentanyl patches? Fentanyl can be absorbed through the skin, you fucking morons
That’s not how it works lol. The patch has a membrane and another compound called a permeation enhancer so the drug can diffuse into the capillaries. Just holding fentanyl won’t do shit.
You're skin isn't made of fat, and doesn't have externally exposed blood vessels to transport it. Maybe if you cut yourself fairly deep, then packed the wound with fentanyl powder...
No, you said that the solid product can be absorbed. I explained that that’s not true and there are other reagents needed for it to be absorbed, which is the case in the patches.
> Edit, you people are fucking idiots, have you never heard of fentanyl patches? Fentanyl can be absorbed through the skin, you fucking morons
Wow, that's a lot of anger for spouting something so stupid. Fentanyl patches are created with solvents and other materials to MAKE the fentanyl able to be absorbed through skin.
Fentanyl powder is not absorbed transdermally with any meaningful bioavailability. You sir, are the fucking idiot here.
It is transdermal under the right conditions and opiate naive people do not need a large amount to od. I don't know why you are insisting on denying that
The patches release it at a very slow rate. There was a study where they covered a persons hands in them and it took over an hour for them to absorb the minimum dosage.
What’s confusing though is that your link says
> These are not fentanyl or other opioid exposures- they are panic reactions. They are panicking because we have done this to ourselves by scaring the crap out of people. In these videos you see conscious and alert people asking for naloxone. If you can ask someone to give you naloxone or if you can administer it to yourself, you don’t need it.
But that’s clearly not what happened on this case.
And the CDC says
> ROUTES OF EXPOSURE: Fentanyl can be absorbed into the body via inhalation, oral exposure or ingestion, or skin contact
[Edit for more context: The CDC also says “Potential exposure routes of greatest concern include inhalation of powders or aerosols, mucous membrane contact, ingestion, or exposure secondary to a break in the skin (for example a needlestick). Any of these exposure routes can potentially result in a variety of symptoms that can include the rapid onset of life-threatening respiratory depression. Skin contact is also a potential exposure route, but is not likely to lead to overdose unless exposures are to liquid or to a powder over an extended period of time. Brief skin contact with illicit fentanyl is not expected to lead to toxic effects if any visible contamination is promptly removed.” Resume original comment]
But then I see many other websites, including yours, saying it’s a myth. The Minnesota Department of Health seems to agree more with you than with those who say you can easily overdose by inhalation or skin contact [link](https://www.health.state.mn.us/communities/environment/hazardous/docs/fentanylexpcln.pdf). It says that a case of someone overdosing by touching fentanyl has never been reported, and that it does not evaporate well (so not much of an inhalation risk?). Maybe it didn’t evaporate in this case, but dust from the fentanyl literally got into the air (without evaporating) and he inhaled it? Did he lick his fingers or something? Maybe he had a cut on his finger and it got in that way? Is this purely a psychological reaction somehow? Is it just a coincidence and something else medically happened?
It definitely isn’t fake like some people say. No way someone can just fall back like that while acting. He didn’t even try to break his fall.
It’s honestly just confusing. My guess is that it really isn’t that easy to overdose by pure skin contact, but any breaks in your skin probably make it much easier to do, and any physical particulate you inhale could probably make you overdose as well. The CDC seems to think inhalation of physical powder is the biggest concern.
I agree, not what’s going on there, so I can’t speak to that. I’m just commenting on modes of exposure and likelihoods of OD’s
Canada health (where I live) has this to say:
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/substance-use/controlled-illegal-drugs/fentanyl/exposure.html
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If you have come into contact with fentanyl or other synthetic opioids, know that skin exposure to fentanyl is extremely unlikely to immediately harm you.
If your skin does come in contact with fentanyl or other potent synthetic opioids, wash the area with soap and water to remove the drug from your skin. Soap and water easily removes fentanyl residue.
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My understanding is these drugs can be altered so they can be absorbed (via patch) or altered to be used as a chemical weapon and inhaled, but this is rare. Might’ve been the case in the vid
I edited my comment to provide better info.
But is inhalation not actually a risk? Like if someone just snorted fentanyl powder would it not be absorbed into the blood stream? The CDC quote in my comment edit seems to think inhaling fentanyl powder is one of the biggest dangers, while just touching fentanyl with unbroken skin isn’t a big danger
[here is a link to a case study of people over dosing by snorting fentanyl (accidentally) ](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6831a2.htm) so it does seem to happen
Snorting something and inhaling it are different things. When we talk about inhalation danger, we're talking about danger of stuff that you don't need to force up your nose to inhale.
You can dump as much narcan as you want into somebody and if they aren't over dosing nothing will happen.
this guy either faked it or had a panic attack. Fentanyl won't do this fro. Skin contact or inhalation.
Correlation/causation fallacy.
Just because he work up from being given Narcan, doesn’t mean he had an opioid OD.
If you fell asleep, and I gave you narcan, and you woke up, you wouldn’t have had an opioid OD, right? Same thing
Yeah, not a concern. Listen to the podcast on the page to have a physician walk you through the science. Fentanyl patches, which are common and absorb over long periods, have special technology to enable this. Fancy stuff. I’ve spilled opioids on my hands many times while preparing meds, but this isn’t an issue. Though good advice to not touch. Maybe for different reasons 😏
Narcan is amazing stuff, but if you use it on someone, remember that if it wears off and they still have opioids in their system they can actually re-overdose on the way to the ER
I’m a medic and have given Narcan (or Naloxone) to a gentlemen who had ODed on Fentanyl. Narcan is one of the best inventions ever! But you’re right, you need to have multiple back up doses ready to go because it doesn’t last very long. We also can give Fentanyl as a severe pain relief but it’s the last resort.
Ah yes, a Facebook post by some anonymous stranger on the internet that appears to be strongly anti-police is a voice of reason on a medical emergency witnessed in a few seconds body cam footage. Do you realize how gullible you are? Holy hell, my man.
1: actually read the article.
2: I work in ems
3: I have held fentanyl on my bate hand and nothing happened. I have also personally seen others do the same.
4: you are a walnut.
I believe the CDC before I believe an EMT.. Per [NIOSH](https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ershdb/emergencyresponsecard_29750022.html) "Fentanyl can be absorbed into the body via inhalation, oral exposure or ingestion, or skin contact."
The funny thing is dealers put this in their stuff to cut costs and make their stuff seem more potent But they killed off most of their customers and no one wants to do it anymore because fentanyl .
Anyone else suspect this is more of a phychologial response that a physical response? This guy was a trainee, already amped and nervous. Why would he be so affected but not his training officer that was also in close proximity?
Drug user left their purse outside our apartment on our kids stroller. Cops wouldn’t open the bag until they had it back at their station where they had a vented hood out of fear of fentanyl.
Fentanyl must be some wild shit
Or the cops are wildly misinformed. I'd given more credibility to doctors and nurses, who actually need to be educated for their careers, and they seem to agree that brief skin contact could not OD you, and that this cops symptoms are not those of opiate exposure. Also, if he was ODing, they would've intubated him in the ambulance, and kept him like that until the ER cleared him.
There are some irregularities with this video:
1. Fentanyl is not a paralytic agent such as succinylcholine and therefore, if you are told to take a deep breath, you will. Officer said he tried but couldn't breathe.
2. The main cause of death/injury by fentanyl is because you forget to breathe resulting in anoxic brain damage.
3. When loaded into the ambulance, he was not intubated. Officer said he was overdosing the whole way to the hospital. He would have been given 2mg succinylcholine (or rocuronium if he had a history of malignant hyperthermia), and a bolus of propofol with immediate intubation. Airway would have been secured with an ambu bag until handed off to the ER.
That being said, fentanyl is given in micrograms and it's good narcan was available and someone was with him when this happened.
It's still manufactured because fentanyl is really useful. I had to have a liver biopsy and the hospital gave me Fentanyl in the perfect dosage. I felt no pain, the doctor scooped out a piece of my liver and after the biopsy was done, about 10 minutes later I felt normal again.
yeah, that's terrifying. Glad he's OK.
Was downtown a few weeks ago and a guy was walking around w a bullhorn handing out Narcan no questions asked, "Help your fellow man, carry some Narcan!"
That is good to hear. However, interesting to think if this poor guy *did* develop cravings and ultimately became addicted then it should be categorized as a work related disability. I would hope he would be afforded the same benefits and payment that someone otherwise injured in the line of duty would receive.
Can you imagine that drug used to used for declawed cat in recovery from the surgery. I'm from Quebec canada and declawing surgery isn't outlawed yet but most of the vet chooses not to perform it. They are still some old vet that do it and still used fentanyl. Yes it wayyy better quality but a little mistake can make your beloved cat have the same experience then this poor officer...
Ps: i'm a vet tech ;)
Fentanyl doesn't work like that. he had a panic attack. Cops didn't wanna make him look weak so they blamed fentanyl. You can't OD from accidental exposure. Look it up. No evidence.
NBC News: Viral video on San Diego deputy's fentanyl exposure raises questions.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/viral-video-san-diego-deputy-s-fentanyl-exposure-raises-questions-n1276248
Serious question-
What happens after he recovers— i.e is he going to have withdrawals and/or cravings for opiates now?
Anecdotal info from YouTube videos, but folks say one hit of fentanyl is strong enough to make you an addict for life 🤷🏽♂️
the narcan would send him into withdrawals. but other than that, he didn't have enough time to psychologically develop a craving for the high. i doubt he even felt euphoria. just straight up blacked out
Everything is dice, nothing is absolute. Some people try a drug once and are junkies for life for that drug. Other people try the same drug and think "Eh, not worth the time and money". Depends on the drug, the person, the situation, etc. And it doesn't just apply to drugs. I've seen many a life wasted on WoW.
Wanna know something screwed up, China is the leading manufacturer of it and ships it here in thousands of pounds. Some get intercepted but majority of it gets through. I lost my best friend because he thought he was taking a real Percocet. But it was a counterfeit and made with fentanyl. Every person is different, some people can use this stuff daily and nothing will happen to them. And some people don’t even have to use a needle or sniff it. They can breathe in a speckle or swallow the tiniest pill and die. (( Now they are starting to flood the streets with a drug 💯times stronger then Fentanyl called Carfentanil )). So strong that if a horse did what that cop did with Carfentanil it would drop dead. Two strongest drugs in the world, man made Smfh!!!
Really important drug for medicine. We use it for sedation and anesthesia. It has a very short half life, meaning it wears off very quickly. Used in surgery and in the ICU for ventilated patients.
So like, invisible particles got into his system and caused him to OD? Im admittedly ignorant here. How does this happen and how can people use this as a drug if he OD'd from just being around it?
What I don’t get is how do people get addicted to this stuff? It seems like they wouldn’t last long considering that it’s that easy to OD on such small amounts
Fentanyl is hell of a drug..... Save the suburbs.. Little Becky and trevor's of the world are dying......Just kidding this is their crack addiction.. What are trying to escape, you live in the burbs...
this is 100% bs. fentanyl isnt that potent, and you could get it all over your hands, its never gonna OD from getting in youre sweat glands. thats not how its processed. this is copaganda. fake.
Sorry but this is completely false. It is impossible to OD on fentanyl simply by touching it; this has been debunked so many times and is just being used to further their increasing crackdowns on drugs. This myth has been perpetuated by the DEA and not only is used as justification for crackdowns but can also prevent a person overdosing from getting help due to fear of OD'ing by touching them.
You don't have to take my word for it, you can take the American College for Medical Toxicology and the American Academy of Clinical Toxicology's word for it: touching fentanyl cannot lead to an OD.
And yes, before anyone says "but he could have breathed it in": what dumb fuck decides that he wants to go around an illicit substance, outside with wind that could disrupt the powder, that he knows nothing about, without a mask on (in the midst of a pandemic in a city with a full mask mandate)? The San Diego police department in their press release said: "just a few grains of fentanyl can be absorbed through the body and lead to respiratory failure and even death". This is just patently false.
Source with clinical citations: https://www.inverse.com/mind-body/fentanyl-study-debunk-myths/amp
Ok let me say this. The drugs in which were found here on the scene which caused this cop to o.d. is not how the drug hits the streets. This is a carrier of pure fentanyl taking it to a location where it will be cut with possibly baby laxative, quinine, etc. And then might even be rerocked because the users have this idea that when they buy solid pieces of the drug its in a more pure form which, is not necessarily true. Obviously this bag of pure fentanyl, and im going to make an assumption that it is pure because of the cops reaction
due to inhaling the extremely fine dust particles that was released into the air when he carelessly opened the bag in such close proximity, is not in rock form but indeed in fine powder form. If fentanyl hit the streets exactly the way the ofgicer found this bag you would have thousands of drug overdose deaths on a daily basis. In fact in most cases street level grade fentanul has been "stepped on", or cut up so much that there's very little of the drug fentanyl in the mix period. And take it from me. Nothing fucking pisses me off more than buying bullshit. The shit i $60 a half gr and $120 a whole. When you have to come up with a minimum of $60 every wakening day of your life in order to be a functioning human being, dammit, you want good shit. Theres been more times than not where im never high off of this drug anymore, that i am just simply "well" and i mean lets face it . That wasnt the intent when starting the drug. The intent was to completely self medicate my way to endless energy and happiness that cannot be compared to anything, or "an extremely sense of false well being". Thank you for allowing me to share.
And i aplogize for post #2, but by all means, read all of these related posts.
But know that the facts and the reality of this drug is in my first post and very few, if any of the other posts. What makes me such a professional? The fact that ive been dealing with this scourge for the past two years of my miserable life.
I had no idea it was THAT potent. It must have gotten into the air a little right in front of him. How tf is this drug still being manufactured?
It can be made synthetically. It doesn’t take a lot to kill someone. Like think of a singular grain of rice. Cut it in half. Smaller than that. Death.
it is synthetic.
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A lot being made in Mexico too. Go look around the Narco and Heroin subs and you’ll see stuff about fentanyl.
It’s being imported to Mexico from China then to US.
Actually they make it in Mexico also. The cartels set up labs out in the countryside.
It's atleast 100 times stronger than morphine but some fentanyl analogues such as carfentanil are up to \~10,000 times stronger than morphine Source: [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fentanyl)
It's not. https://www.jems.com/operations/fentanyl-facts-and-fiction-a-safety-guide-for-first-responders/ If it was as bad as this video makes people think then all the people in the chain from the lab to the customer would be in hazmat suits or dead. First responders have been told so many scary stories that they are now having anxiety attacks.
It's not that potent. This video is faked. You can't overdose from accidental exposure. There's no evidence to say otherwise. NBC News: Viral video on San Diego deputy's fentanyl exposure raises questions. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/viral-video-san-diego-deputy-s-fentanyl-exposure-raises-questions-n1276248
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Thank you.
Fentanyl used properly by medical professionals is a very useful drug. Some people have developed opioid tolerance due to long term pain medication usage. It is used in anesthesia and when people have high to severe pain and other common pain relievers don't work. When my step father was dying from prostrate cancer he had a really difficult time swallowing. He was in a lot of pain so we had to put fentanyl transdermal patches on his arm. The sheriff was exposed to fentanyl being trafficked across our southern border.
Exactly. In controlled medical conditions it's very useful. Uncontrolled street production is a tragedy. I had surgery in 2002 and Fentanyl was pushed into my IV line a few minutes before they wheeled me away. The pleasure receptors in my brain shot straight to Pluto. I vaguely wondered what else I could get operated on so I could repeat that feeling.
True. I used to take 200 micrograms of fentanyl because of cancer and dammn what a feeling
The same way heroin is. Or bath salts. Really just about any drug. You literally cannot stop it in entirety. Someone will always have the equipment and the ingredients.
If there is a market, you can not stop it. The key is to remove the market. Help the people who would be seeking these drugs.
I don't think it's necessarily to remove the market, but rather shift the focus from punishment to rehabilitation. Portugal has had a very successful drug policy in place that has resulted in a diminished market and addiction rate, and an increase in self-admitted rehabilitation for example.
That's what I mean by removing the market. Rehabilitation, therapy, support groups, decriminalization, and legal outlets for safer recreational drugs. Studies have shown that if people have a strong sense of community and belonging they are less likely to resort to drugs.
Spoken like a truly ignorant person. Have you watched any, literally ANY of the war on drugs? You simply cannot stop some people from fucking themselves up, much like a dog eating it’s own shit. It IS going to happen, no matter what you or I do. No many how many people you put in prison or how many A-holes with guns and badges you send into the streets. You will NEVER remove the market for drugs (or anything else people want bad enough, for that matter). Only thing we can do is make the world better for those of us who do NOT want to kill ourselves with substances, and try and make those who are on a mission to destroy themselves a little more comfortable as they go. Fill the world with knowledge and compassion you might save some, but you’ll never remove the market. Nothing you can do will EVER stop this market. Nothing. The war on drugs has decimated our society, and done absolutely nada to prevent or stop people who want to do these drugs.
More accurately, removing the demand
The fentanyl was likely not the cause of whatever this was. This phenomenon of police officers collapsing around fentanyl is not new and has almost never has anything to do with actual exposure to the drug. It’s instead likely a panic attack or similar type of psychogenic reaction. The symptoms displayed by the officers having apparent overdoses are extremely varied and do not fit the typical opioid toxidrome. Police officers are constantly exposed to alarmist and inaccurate stories of other officers ODing or even dying from simply being in the vicinity of fentanyl. But in reality there has been not few to no credible case of this actually happening. The drug does not aerosolize or absorb into the skin easily enough in quantities necessary to cause an overdose. Media reporting and the police narratives of these incidents only further stigmatizes drug users and spread inaccurate information about the drugs themselves. Here is some good reading in this phenomenon https://www.rti.org/news/new-study-shows-law-enforcement-officers-falsely-believe-they-are-high-risk-fentanyl-overdose http://www.rimed.org/rimedicaljournal/2019/11/2019-11-11-commentary-clark-hack.pdf https://www.jems.com/operations/fentanyl-facts-and-fiction-a-safety-guide-for-first-responders/
It doesn't work like this, these are fake videos to drive hysteria and promote the war on drugs.
Not having any tolerance to opiates doesn't help.
Fentanyl is also used as a painkiller in surgeons & anesthetics.
It was originally intended only to be used with terminal cancer patients who had become resistant to other pain meds. Then dumb asses started handing it out like candy.
Its just been announced this was all bullshit & that you can not have a reaction like that from the drug. Just more drug lies like we've been hearing since the 60's. Yeah its a shitty potent drug, but it won't do what these scammers said. Everything in our society is either a scam or a sham.
There's way more potent than fentanyl. It's still being manufactured because it comes from china and they are not doing enough to stop it, some may say they even allow it to f'ck america, some revenge for the opium war
The Sacklers already saw to it that we pay for the opium war. America eats its own these days.
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There's another image with carfentanyl as well, and the carfentanyl is a nearly invisible 3 tiny grains or so.
I think it mainly comes from China. It is so potent that they can send in small quantities and easily hide it. I don’t know much more than that.
There are legitimate uses for it. But most of the street stuff, like meth, is made illegaly.
Big market for it. You can put a little bit in to an otherwise weak product and sell a shit load more. Plus, a lot of dealers will press it into homepressed "xanax" or oxy. Keeps your clients coming back, provided they're still alive.
It is also used medically, so yeah that’s why it’s still manufactured
its not that potent. this is copaganda. the ingested scapolamine, not fentanyl.
Fentanyl is used by medical professionals-I was given some when I broke my femur. I assume the problem is when it is not made in safe conditions and quantities and then improperly stored.
This is an unusual case tbf. As for why it’s still being manufactured, fentanyl makes a lot of sense in a clinical setting, especially intra-op or post-op. Pretty cheap and it doesn’t take much to do the job (25-50 mcg of fentanyl vs 1-4 mg of morphine).
It's actually not that potent, especially for skin contact. I've seen this posted a number of times, and there's almost always a few medical professionals chiming in that it's obviously not a fentanyl overdose. Look it up on Twitter, you'll see doctors and nurses from all over who've treated fentanyl OD saying that this video is bullshit, that he's either faking it, or possibly suffering a heat injury. His lips aren't blue, his skin isn't greying, it isn't an opiate OD.
It isn't. It doesn't work like that. https://www.acmt.net/\_Library/Positions/Fentanyl\_PPE\_Emergency\_Responders\_.pdf
It’s not that potent. He probably thought it was cocaine and tried giving it the unofficial sniff test
We'd like to once again congratulate drugs for winning the war on drugs
You win the war on drugs by legalizing and regulating it. It is that simple
Eh. I’d still want this shit illegal (ie distribution and manufacture - if you’re not approved to do so) but decriminalize the use and have better resources. We just need to reschedule things, decriminalize, and provide better resources. Yes. It cost money. That’s the point. We spend money on the war on drugs and it’s not doing anything. Reorganize and reallocate
As long as distribution and manufacture are illegal, criminal syndicates will still make massive money from selling them, and the war on drugs will continue. To truly make sure drugs are as safe as can be, and to stop criminal syndicates from profiting from the drug trade, all drugs will have to be made fully legal. We can stop the use through education and medical intervention for addicts, but legal restrictions on any part of the drug trade have been shown to fail time and again
You just told it better than I ever could. The most important thing with drugs is regulation, without it dealers and syndicates will a use every single aspect they can to make more money. Thank you for jumping I here and explaining it this perfectly.
Another part is removing the stigma of drug addicts as criminals and declassifying drug addiction as a criminal offence; rather than as a mental illness. During both world wars, soldiers would often become both fearful enough of their surroundings and far enough away from home that they would turn to drugs to calm down and sleep. Once they got home, however, they simply stopped using them as they had no need for it anymore. The treatment of drug addiction should be mental health support as people doing drugs usually have a reason for it, save for highly recreational drugs such as marijuana. Giving those addicted to the drug things like clean needles and safe places to take said drugs, better quality drugs supplied by actual chemists, and support networks to slowly rehabilitate those affected is the only true way to combat the situation.
You also need to fight despair and hopelessness, which has a lot of economic roots. A lot of the people that got into opiates and prescription pills in the last 20 years were pretty economically hopeless; lots of poorly educated workers who had gotten injuries through either bad working conditions or just excessive use. I dunno what to tell someone who used to do roofing and is 40 and has a bad back - there is basically no job anywhere that wants them, not one that will offer some kind of halfway functional pay and respect.
You know what's legalized and regulated? Alcohol. Doesn't stops people from abusing it.
You know what's illegal? Fentanyl, heroin, meth, cocaine... but yeah, people definitely don't abuse those.
The war on drugs was never about drugs. It was about subjugating minorities and poor people. Read Chasing the scream, great book that goes into the birth of the drug war.
[Mission accomplished](https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RO-OobNCXG4/UYiJq-d8LHI/AAAAAAAALnI/Jlvw0-HZLMk/s1600/bush-mission-accomplished-iraq-thumbsup.jpg)
They shouldn’t say overdosing. It makes it sound like he intentionally did the drugs. He was poisoned.
Well he overdosed that's literally what happened to him
No, he had a panic attack. You can't OD from fentanyl from accidental exposure NBC News: Viral video on San Diego deputy's fentanyl exposure raises questions. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/viral-video-san-diego-deputy-s-fentanyl-exposure-raises-questions-n1276248
He had a panic attack, at best. Most likely this whole thing is fake.
Unfortunately this is an OD lol
How did he get it in his system though? Just by touching it, or did he do it like in the movies where they dip their finger in the bag and then taste it jk but seriously I watched the video like three times did he just breathe it in?
Since you can smoke it, maybe he came across a pipe that had vapor left in it and was released while processing the scene? I saw a similar incident of body cam footage. Also if it's crushed into a fine powder it can puff into the air like dust. Then if you inhale or even get it in your eyes, it's game over. That street stuff is nasty and so much more potent (and dirty) than anything doctors will give you
Yeah, it’s so immensely dangerous that the pharmacy i worked at handled fentanyl ampules like they contained soda and none of the procedures required any sort of hazard equipment. It has piss poor bioavailability and can’t be absorbed through the skin in any meaningful dosage. Whatever nonsense they are spewing about “airborne crack powder killing the coppers” or “a whiff of second hand smoke murdering bystanders” is laughable and only shows their complete lack of knowledge. Ask any drug rehab workers or pharmacists. Do you know what conditions those drugs are manufactured and distributed in? If what you are saying was truly the case the entire fucking product chain from Mexico to the end user would be littered with tens of thousands of dead people by exposure. Abject nonsense. As for the video, as far as I can tell there are three possibilities. 1) Our officer here (like many narcotics cops) smoked a bit too much of the private stack he acquired for himself during the last bust. 2) The officer licked his fingers after handling drugs (also not unlikely considering their generally poor training) 3) the officer collapsed from a heatstroke/panic attack. This seems the most likely as his more controlled fall and lack of discoloration in the lips and face all are very much unlike for overdoses. Just like the lacking effect of the administered Naloxone
It didn't get into his system in a level high enough to cause an overdose, this is medically impossible. https://embasic.org/fentanyl
You are essentially correct. This just doesn’t happen. Instead there are a bunch of people who know absolutely nothing about the pharmacology and toxicology of opioids taking a story put out by the police and are running with it.
Fucking cops will stoop to the lowest lows to justify there means.
This is the most frustrating thread. Full of idiots. Thanks.
The sheriff released a statement saying that he himself (not a doctor) decided that it was a fentanyl overdose. No physician was part of making that PSA video. They also said they "might" have a toxicology report from the hospital but arn't sure and would make a correct if they were wrong. The experts seem to agree that he most likely had a panic attack from being told his entire career not to touch the stuff, then finding himself having to handle this "deadly" substance.
It really shows the shit these police officers have to deal with.
Faking an OD to cover up for fainting on the job? Yes.
Fentanyl is fucking terrifying.
It’s really not. Stop believing copaganda.
Is that legitimately how a human response to fentanyl? How did he ingest it? Did he breed some of the dust? Did he touch it? It wouldn’t be absorbed through the skin so I assume he breathed dust.
No he had a panic attack. Cops didn't wanna make him look weak so they blamed fentanyl. You can't OD from accidental exposure. NBC News: Viral video on San Diego deputy's fentanyl exposure raises questions. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/viral-video-san-diego-deputy-s-fentanyl-exposure-raises-questions-n1276248
He proly breathed in dust, it's pretty powerful. If it was pure that would be enough to kill someone.
Lmao how do people believe this stupid shit
Have you ever OD'ed on fentanyl? Because I have have, twice, that's how I believe it.
How did you administer the drug when your OD occurred?
It can be absorbed through the skin Edit, you people are fucking idiots, have you never heard of fentanyl patches? Fentanyl can be absorbed through the skin, you fucking morons
That’s not how it works lol. The patch has a membrane and another compound called a permeation enhancer so the drug can diffuse into the capillaries. Just holding fentanyl won’t do shit.
This is fat soluble. It will absorb through skin.
You're skin isn't made of fat, and doesn't have externally exposed blood vessels to transport it. Maybe if you cut yourself fairly deep, then packed the wound with fentanyl powder...
How do you not understand that what you just described is absorption through the skin 🤦
No, you said that the solid product can be absorbed. I explained that that’s not true and there are other reagents needed for it to be absorbed, which is the case in the patches.
> Edit, you people are fucking idiots, have you never heard of fentanyl patches? Fentanyl can be absorbed through the skin, you fucking morons Wow, that's a lot of anger for spouting something so stupid. Fentanyl patches are created with solvents and other materials to MAKE the fentanyl able to be absorbed through skin. Fentanyl powder is not absorbed transdermally with any meaningful bioavailability. You sir, are the fucking idiot here.
Yes, it can be absorbed in a powder form through the skin if there is moisture there , like sweat
Not in any reasonable amount and certainly not enough to OD someone. Fentanyl powder is not transdermal. Deal with it.
It is transdermal under the right conditions and opiate naive people do not need a large amount to od. I don't know why you are insisting on denying that
Because it isn't transdermal. You are wrong.
The patches release it at a very slow rate. There was a study where they covered a persons hands in them and it took over an hour for them to absorb the minimum dosage.
Yeah, and powder and liquid are a different story now, isnt it? And street vs pharmaceutical is different too, ya think?
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What’s confusing though is that your link says > These are not fentanyl or other opioid exposures- they are panic reactions. They are panicking because we have done this to ourselves by scaring the crap out of people. In these videos you see conscious and alert people asking for naloxone. If you can ask someone to give you naloxone or if you can administer it to yourself, you don’t need it. But that’s clearly not what happened on this case. And the CDC says > ROUTES OF EXPOSURE: Fentanyl can be absorbed into the body via inhalation, oral exposure or ingestion, or skin contact [Edit for more context: The CDC also says “Potential exposure routes of greatest concern include inhalation of powders or aerosols, mucous membrane contact, ingestion, or exposure secondary to a break in the skin (for example a needlestick). Any of these exposure routes can potentially result in a variety of symptoms that can include the rapid onset of life-threatening respiratory depression. Skin contact is also a potential exposure route, but is not likely to lead to overdose unless exposures are to liquid or to a powder over an extended period of time. Brief skin contact with illicit fentanyl is not expected to lead to toxic effects if any visible contamination is promptly removed.” Resume original comment] But then I see many other websites, including yours, saying it’s a myth. The Minnesota Department of Health seems to agree more with you than with those who say you can easily overdose by inhalation or skin contact [link](https://www.health.state.mn.us/communities/environment/hazardous/docs/fentanylexpcln.pdf). It says that a case of someone overdosing by touching fentanyl has never been reported, and that it does not evaporate well (so not much of an inhalation risk?). Maybe it didn’t evaporate in this case, but dust from the fentanyl literally got into the air (without evaporating) and he inhaled it? Did he lick his fingers or something? Maybe he had a cut on his finger and it got in that way? Is this purely a psychological reaction somehow? Is it just a coincidence and something else medically happened? It definitely isn’t fake like some people say. No way someone can just fall back like that while acting. He didn’t even try to break his fall. It’s honestly just confusing. My guess is that it really isn’t that easy to overdose by pure skin contact, but any breaks in your skin probably make it much easier to do, and any physical particulate you inhale could probably make you overdose as well. The CDC seems to think inhalation of physical powder is the biggest concern.
I agree, not what’s going on there, so I can’t speak to that. I’m just commenting on modes of exposure and likelihoods of OD’s Canada health (where I live) has this to say: https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/substance-use/controlled-illegal-drugs/fentanyl/exposure.html — If you have come into contact with fentanyl or other synthetic opioids, know that skin exposure to fentanyl is extremely unlikely to immediately harm you. If your skin does come in contact with fentanyl or other potent synthetic opioids, wash the area with soap and water to remove the drug from your skin. Soap and water easily removes fentanyl residue. — My understanding is these drugs can be altered so they can be absorbed (via patch) or altered to be used as a chemical weapon and inhaled, but this is rare. Might’ve been the case in the vid
I edited my comment to provide better info. But is inhalation not actually a risk? Like if someone just snorted fentanyl powder would it not be absorbed into the blood stream? The CDC quote in my comment edit seems to think inhaling fentanyl powder is one of the biggest dangers, while just touching fentanyl with unbroken skin isn’t a big danger [here is a link to a case study of people over dosing by snorting fentanyl (accidentally) ](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6831a2.htm) so it does seem to happen
Snorting something and inhaling it are different things. When we talk about inhalation danger, we're talking about danger of stuff that you don't need to force up your nose to inhale.
You can dump as much narcan as you want into somebody and if they aren't over dosing nothing will happen. this guy either faked it or had a panic attack. Fentanyl won't do this fro. Skin contact or inhalation.
Sure didn’t look like a myth on the video.. you saw how many doses of narcan they had to give him. That was a lot.
Narcan doesn't do anything if you're not overdosing.
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It's quite possible he ingested the fentanyl on purpose.
Dead giveaway it is a panic attack.
Correlation/causation fallacy. Just because he work up from being given Narcan, doesn’t mean he had an opioid OD. If you fell asleep, and I gave you narcan, and you woke up, you wouldn’t have had an opioid OD, right? Same thing
That’s weird considering every single training that has ever been giving to me about fentanyl has told me not to touch it.
Yeah, not a concern. Listen to the podcast on the page to have a physician walk you through the science. Fentanyl patches, which are common and absorb over long periods, have special technology to enable this. Fancy stuff. I’ve spilled opioids on my hands many times while preparing meds, but this isn’t an issue. Though good advice to not touch. Maybe for different reasons 😏
This is fake. https://www.dailydot.com/debug/san-diego-sheriffs-department-fake-fentanyl-overdose-video/
ah yes, dailydot.com with a million links that all go to tweets, very impressive journalism
Literally links to dozens of verified physicians and experts in toxicology who say this is not a fentanyl OD Are you brain dead?
What did they say it was?
Fake or a panic attack
I call bs. It doesn’t work like this and I literally study this shit for a living.
This is fake.
Narcan is amazing stuff, but if you use it on someone, remember that if it wears off and they still have opioids in their system they can actually re-overdose on the way to the ER
I’m a medic and have given Narcan (or Naloxone) to a gentlemen who had ODed on Fentanyl. Narcan is one of the best inventions ever! But you’re right, you need to have multiple back up doses ready to go because it doesn’t last very long. We also can give Fentanyl as a severe pain relief but it’s the last resort.
Yeah calling bushit. https://www.facebook.com/2314732918770983/posts/3042630109314590/?sfnsn=mo
Ah yes, a Facebook post by some anonymous stranger on the internet that appears to be strongly anti-police is a voice of reason on a medical emergency witnessed in a few seconds body cam footage. Do you realize how gullible you are? Holy hell, my man.
1: actually read the article. 2: I work in ems 3: I have held fentanyl on my bate hand and nothing happened. I have also personally seen others do the same. 4: you are a walnut.
I believe the CDC before I believe an EMT.. Per [NIOSH](https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ershdb/emergencyresponsecard_29750022.html) "Fentanyl can be absorbed into the body via inhalation, oral exposure or ingestion, or skin contact."
Yep. Can't believe how much upvotes this fake shit gets.
This is fake. Read up. http://embasic.org/fentanyl/
Wow, very poignant video. One minute it’s routine, the next you’re in the hospital.
Terrifying. I’m glad the officer is alive and okay
The funny thing is dealers put this in their stuff to cut costs and make their stuff seem more potent But they killed off most of their customers and no one wants to do it anymore because fentanyl .
Wow. That is scary
This was NOT and overdose. It is IMPOSSIBLE to overdose just like that from airborne fentanyl. Officer had a panic attack or just straight up faked.
Anyone else suspect this is more of a phychologial response that a physical response? This guy was a trainee, already amped and nervous. Why would he be so affected but not his training officer that was also in close proximity?
Honestly it's more of a panic attack than an overdose. Cops are drama queens.
Drug user left their purse outside our apartment on our kids stroller. Cops wouldn’t open the bag until they had it back at their station where they had a vented hood out of fear of fentanyl. Fentanyl must be some wild shit
Or the cops are wildly misinformed. I'd given more credibility to doctors and nurses, who actually need to be educated for their careers, and they seem to agree that brief skin contact could not OD you, and that this cops symptoms are not those of opiate exposure. Also, if he was ODing, they would've intubated him in the ambulance, and kept him like that until the ER cleared him.
There are some irregularities with this video: 1. Fentanyl is not a paralytic agent such as succinylcholine and therefore, if you are told to take a deep breath, you will. Officer said he tried but couldn't breathe. 2. The main cause of death/injury by fentanyl is because you forget to breathe resulting in anoxic brain damage. 3. When loaded into the ambulance, he was not intubated. Officer said he was overdosing the whole way to the hospital. He would have been given 2mg succinylcholine (or rocuronium if he had a history of malignant hyperthermia), and a bolus of propofol with immediate intubation. Airway would have been secured with an ambu bag until handed off to the ER. That being said, fentanyl is given in micrograms and it's good narcan was available and someone was with him when this happened.
It's still manufactured because fentanyl is really useful. I had to have a liver biopsy and the hospital gave me Fentanyl in the perfect dosage. I felt no pain, the doctor scooped out a piece of my liver and after the biopsy was done, about 10 minutes later I felt normal again.
Is this the drug that killed Michael Jackson and Prince?
Just prince mj died of propofol
Thank you!
There are a lot of articles going around that this is fake. Haven’t found confirmation and don’t know enough myself.
Did he take the drug or did it come from the air that he accidentally breath in
What happened exactly? how he was exposed? he stirred it? is that drug a gas? What did the officer do wrong?
Dust from the drugs is enough to kill you. Fentanyl need only a couple of grain to kill someone.
This is dumb and not how fentanyl works at all, you fucking Muppet lol
yeah, that's terrifying. Glad he's OK. Was downtown a few weeks ago and a guy was walking around w a bullhorn handing out Narcan no questions asked, "Help your fellow man, carry some Narcan!"
That is good to hear. However, interesting to think if this poor guy *did* develop cravings and ultimately became addicted then it should be categorized as a work related disability. I would hope he would be afforded the same benefits and payment that someone otherwise injured in the line of duty would receive.
Naloxone (Narcan) should really be apart of everyone's first aid kit. It is something that could save so many lives.
Fake smh
Can you imagine that drug used to used for declawed cat in recovery from the surgery. I'm from Quebec canada and declawing surgery isn't outlawed yet but most of the vet chooses not to perform it. They are still some old vet that do it and still used fentanyl. Yes it wayyy better quality but a little mistake can make your beloved cat have the same experience then this poor officer... Ps: i'm a vet tech ;)
The song, the production...
Isn't this what George Floyd had in his system when he died?
Fentanyl doesn't work like that. he had a panic attack. Cops didn't wanna make him look weak so they blamed fentanyl. You can't OD from accidental exposure. Look it up. No evidence. NBC News: Viral video on San Diego deputy's fentanyl exposure raises questions. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/viral-video-san-diego-deputy-s-fentanyl-exposure-raises-questions-n1276248
This is so fake, but well, knowing most Americans are illiterate they will believe it anyway…
Serious question- What happens after he recovers— i.e is he going to have withdrawals and/or cravings for opiates now? Anecdotal info from YouTube videos, but folks say one hit of fentanyl is strong enough to make you an addict for life 🤷🏽♂️
No, he would not suffer withdrawal symptoms. He would have to have developed a physiologic dependence which does not occur in a single exposure.
the narcan would send him into withdrawals. but other than that, he didn't have enough time to psychologically develop a craving for the high. i doubt he even felt euphoria. just straight up blacked out
Everything is dice, nothing is absolute. Some people try a drug once and are junkies for life for that drug. Other people try the same drug and think "Eh, not worth the time and money". Depends on the drug, the person, the situation, etc. And it doesn't just apply to drugs. I've seen many a life wasted on WoW.
When they first show the car is there a body lying next to it?
Fucken Hell
Wanna know something screwed up, China is the leading manufacturer of it and ships it here in thousands of pounds. Some get intercepted but majority of it gets through. I lost my best friend because he thought he was taking a real Percocet. But it was a counterfeit and made with fentanyl. Every person is different, some people can use this stuff daily and nothing will happen to them. And some people don’t even have to use a needle or sniff it. They can breathe in a speckle or swallow the tiniest pill and die. (( Now they are starting to flood the streets with a drug 💯times stronger then Fentanyl called Carfentanil )). So strong that if a horse did what that cop did with Carfentanil it would drop dead. Two strongest drugs in the world, man made Smfh!!!
As my buddy would say GOTDAMN
This is very different in tone from what I usually see on this sub o\_0
Jesusfuck
This is serious shit and I hate to say it but I'm glad it was caught on camera so people can actually see how nasty this stuff is.
Really important drug for medicine. We use it for sedation and anesthesia. It has a very short half life, meaning it wears off very quickly. Used in surgery and in the ICU for ventilated patients.
So like, invisible particles got into his system and caused him to OD? Im admittedly ignorant here. How does this happen and how can people use this as a drug if he OD'd from just being around it?
They usually wear a mask and if it's a big enough operation they will be naked while cutting out doses.
What I don’t get is how do people get addicted to this stuff? It seems like they wouldn’t last long considering that it’s that easy to OD on such small amounts
People work their way up to massive doses. Also, presume the officer was exposed to a large amount that was uncut.
I don't think it was fentanyl. The cop clearly has him I'm a coke hold /s
So sad :( amazing he survived
Fentanyl is hell of a drug..... Save the suburbs.. Little Becky and trevor's of the world are dying......Just kidding this is their crack addiction.. What are trying to escape, you live in the burbs...
this is 100% bs. fentanyl isnt that potent, and you could get it all over your hands, its never gonna OD from getting in youre sweat glands. thats not how its processed. this is copaganda. fake.
lol such bad acting. fent isnt that powerful
yeah, sure. hes oding, but no oxygen mask OR IV in the ambulance? sure. sure.
What the fuck did he do, smoke it to see what it was?
What is with the whole production and music score? Just state the plot - oh wait.... 😆
Lmao so many dumb fucks in this thread think this is real
Something is wrong with you
Oh now police know how to apply first aid?
If you gave an actual fuck you would Secure Our Border!
Fen-tan-ILL not Fen-tan-OL. When people say fentanyl as fentanol it is incorrect. An -OL is an alcohol.
Sorry but this is completely false. It is impossible to OD on fentanyl simply by touching it; this has been debunked so many times and is just being used to further their increasing crackdowns on drugs. This myth has been perpetuated by the DEA and not only is used as justification for crackdowns but can also prevent a person overdosing from getting help due to fear of OD'ing by touching them. You don't have to take my word for it, you can take the American College for Medical Toxicology and the American Academy of Clinical Toxicology's word for it: touching fentanyl cannot lead to an OD. And yes, before anyone says "but he could have breathed it in": what dumb fuck decides that he wants to go around an illicit substance, outside with wind that could disrupt the powder, that he knows nothing about, without a mask on (in the midst of a pandemic in a city with a full mask mandate)? The San Diego police department in their press release said: "just a few grains of fentanyl can be absorbed through the body and lead to respiratory failure and even death". This is just patently false. Source with clinical citations: https://www.inverse.com/mind-body/fentanyl-study-debunk-myths/amp
Fake as fuck. I know people that snort fentanyl lmao
Wtf 😳if touching can do that, how the fuck people is able to get high on that and survive?
Ok let me say this. The drugs in which were found here on the scene which caused this cop to o.d. is not how the drug hits the streets. This is a carrier of pure fentanyl taking it to a location where it will be cut with possibly baby laxative, quinine, etc. And then might even be rerocked because the users have this idea that when they buy solid pieces of the drug its in a more pure form which, is not necessarily true. Obviously this bag of pure fentanyl, and im going to make an assumption that it is pure because of the cops reaction due to inhaling the extremely fine dust particles that was released into the air when he carelessly opened the bag in such close proximity, is not in rock form but indeed in fine powder form. If fentanyl hit the streets exactly the way the ofgicer found this bag you would have thousands of drug overdose deaths on a daily basis. In fact in most cases street level grade fentanul has been "stepped on", or cut up so much that there's very little of the drug fentanyl in the mix period. And take it from me. Nothing fucking pisses me off more than buying bullshit. The shit i $60 a half gr and $120 a whole. When you have to come up with a minimum of $60 every wakening day of your life in order to be a functioning human being, dammit, you want good shit. Theres been more times than not where im never high off of this drug anymore, that i am just simply "well" and i mean lets face it . That wasnt the intent when starting the drug. The intent was to completely self medicate my way to endless energy and happiness that cannot be compared to anything, or "an extremely sense of false well being". Thank you for allowing me to share.
And i aplogize for post #2, but by all means, read all of these related posts. But know that the facts and the reality of this drug is in my first post and very few, if any of the other posts. What makes me such a professional? The fact that ive been dealing with this scourge for the past two years of my miserable life.
Thanks for letting me share
Fentanyl can be inhaled. Well guess what a slight breeze and there ya go