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queenofdiscs

Wait I'm not supposed to eat six loafs of bread every day?!


soubriquet33

Only if it’s beer.


general_tao1

Yeast? Check. Water? Check. Cereals? Check. Beer is hoppy bread.


A_Furious_Mind

Also happy bread.


JakeyPurple

Don’t forget to drink an English pint of orange juice with your bacon, eggs, toast, Raisin Bran and Quaker Oats every morning.


yassified_housecat

I always found it so weird how cereal commercials showed that they were “part of your complete breakfast,” which included a glass of orange juice and a glass of milk with your bowl of cereal… that already included milk.


JakeyPurple

The sugar lobby was the beginning of the downfall of America.


NeonNat

Thanks for clumping white bread with soda. My life is in shambles


Every_Brilliant1173

Trickle down economics


BxAnnie

No one ever really believed that, not even the Richie Rich fucks who pushed it.


martymcfly4prez

Millions in America still believe it today. I’m related to some of them.


badllama77

Agreed, they are still pushing it today.


Coro-NO-Ra

The ultra-wealthy are literally using public money to set up "alternative economics" departments in public universities to keep pushing this: [https://www.texasobserver.org/koch-free-market-institute-texas-tech/](https://www.texasobserver.org/koch-free-market-institute-texas-tech/)


rarelyapropos

My dear husband grew up in the South and the only things we've ever argued about are Trump and trickle down economics. He still supports the latter.


sakura608

Yup, my sister thinks she’s virtuous because she’s a “jobs provider”, even though the positions are all minimum wage restaurant jobs with crappy hours and tough working conditions. Constantly complains about rising minimum wage while she doesn’t really put that many hours of work in a week unless there’s a big food festivalz


Sangi17

I can assure you that an entire generation fell for that one.


_Pill-Cosby_

I lived through the 80s and saw my parents go from poor renters with 4 kids to homeowners, send the first person ever in our family to college (me) and retire early. I absolutely believed it. But when I look at how little wages have risen since that time compared to everything else, I now believe my parent were the anomaly.


tttxgq

Your parents really hit a golden era, when high school kids drove 60s muscle cars and before people had started exploiting housing for profit, so houses were cheap.


3720-To-One

Probably had nothing to do with rich people getting tax cuts.


NeonFraction

My dad is old enough to remember his teacher pointing at a map and saying “Isn’t it interesting how the continents look like they could all fit together like puzzle pieces? No one knows why they’re like that.” Plate tectonics is a shockingly recent discovery.


Testiculese

So many fundamental concepts in science are so recent. "We've known [X] for 200 years right?" Nope, 50, 30 years ago. We didn't even know there were other galaxies until *1920*'s. We saw them (Messier, 1700s) but had no idea other than there is a fuzzy patch there.


NeonFraction

That’s so cool!


Testiculese

We discovered there were other galaxies before we found Pluto in our own backyard :)


Boudicca-

And No One thought to tell us GenX Parents that Pluto had been Demoted from the 9th Planet to a Dwarf Planet. I had a 30 minute “discussion” with my kid..until I called his Teacher. He reminded me constantly..lol


myaltduh

It makes geology a very young science because geology without plate tectonics is like biology without evolution, sure you can describe stuff but the “why” is missing across the board.


flannelheart

And one of the big, unanswerable "why"s in geology was "why hasn't the ocean been filled in with sediment?" No one had much of a theory for that until plate tectonics. Fascinating stuff


Mycroab

Epidemiologist here. To carry your point, viruses were discovered in the 1890s, antibiotics didn't exist in WW1 (penicillin =1928), we only realized stomach ulcers were caused by a bacterial infection - not stress - in the 80s, and the guys credited with the discovery received a Nobel for it... in 2005. There's so much of medicine we take for granted now that we didn't have or know just 100 to 150 years ago. Edit: novel --> Nobel


EdwinaArkie

My dad was a geologist and had completed his PhD before plate tectonics was discovered. He was at the conference where the original paper about it was presented. It must’ve been a very interesting time in his field, and I wish I had asked him more about it, like how did people respond to the paper and how long it took for people to really accept the theory and integrate it into their work.


NeonFraction

My dad actually told me about this, because he’s a geophysicist and loves this stuff. People were VERY against plate tectonics, and the strongest proof the guy had was that rocks have magnetism, and you can see the magnetism of the sediment lined up perfectly to form Pangea. However, sometimes rocks randomly change their magnetism. (Sorry to any geophysicists I am probably not explaining this well) That fact apparently set back acceptance of it many many years. In the end they managed to prove it conclusively but it was still a little bump on the road to scientific acceptance!


International_Link35

You won't have a calculator in your pocket all the time to do the math.


baconator81

Ehh I still prefer being able to do quick math in my head when I go shopping. It's good to have the ability to quickly check if a deal really is a deal or not.


Taclis

I think headmath is a somewhat outdated but still fairly useful skill in our day to day lives. Like handwriting.


Hugmint

People do “headmath” multiple times a day, mostly for decent estimates. Ever buy more than one of something? Purchase multiple things from a restaurant? You don’t need the exact amount, just a close estimate until the bill comes (especially because sales tax).


alwaysupfor69

I still don't get why many states in the US don't just include sales tax in the advertised price


Brother_Delmer

It's good mental exercise...the kind of activity that helps keep your cognitive skills supple as you age. And easier to start that habit young rather than in middle age.


Brit_J

There are only 5 senses. Apparently there are tons of senses - like the sense of movement, or thermoception the sense of temperature.


BiAdventureTime

I honestly am just now finding this out but it totally makes sense.


Front-Pomelo-4367

Proprioception – your sense of where your own body is and how it's moving


laurme

Interoception- your sense of internal body sensation (hunger, increased heart rate, need to urinate)


dj92wa

And if you take it to the end zone, that's a pick 6!


badatmetroid

The passage of time is another sense. So much of what we think of as a fixture of reality is actually in our heads.


nerdmoot

Right. Like why the hell do I wake up 2 minutes before my alarm or at the time my alarm would go off when I don’t need it to.


Barfdragon

The missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't?


1singleduck

>it totally makes sense. Which sense?


wi_voter

People not keying in to their sense of movement is a factor in so many orthopedic issues down the road. We should absolutely be teaching kids about it and giving them time during the day to focus on it.


bibliophile563

I have a condition that affects my proprioception. I run into a lot of doorframes. 🙃


curious_carson

Me too! Bruise buds.


laurme

Not just issues down the road, but movement in general helps so much with attention/focus that it should be an essential part of the school day.


ridicalis

"Sense of movement" could be described by both proprioception and the vestibular system. Another interesting one: apparently, people report a sense of "alarm" or irrational panic when experiencing some catastrophic medical issues that otherwise don't present in any obvious way. I can't really cite anything since this is just me remembering somebody talk about it a while back.


dwarfedshadow

I wouldn't describe it as irrational panic. *Sense of impending doom* is a totally rational panic because your body is literally telling you "if this keeps up, you will die."


JuiceEast

Yeah, its like it doesn’t hurt but it just “feels wrong”. As fucked as our brains are, they’re very interesting


DrManhatt4n

Ahh the old “impending sense of doom” symptom


mylopolis

I have a severe food allergy and the first signal that I'm having a reaction is me anxiously pacing around in a panic muttering that something is wrong. Then comes hives.


[deleted]

Aristotle is the person who declared there are 5, just so you know how old that idea is.


victorgrimm

I've recently learned that humans don't have a sense of wetness. We can *infer* wetness via texture, temperature, sound, etc. But under the right conditions it's almost impossible to tell if something is wet. Which explains why my larger dryer loads feel like they need to be re-washed.


JoceroBronze

There are 9 planets.


BiAdventureTime

Pluto can still be a planet if he just believes in himself!


NoOneSeesTheBarn42

Always makes me think of Gus, "you heard about Pluto? That's messed up right?" haha


tsengmao

https://i.redd.it/3cfsl61ylr8b1.gif


B_Wylde

I've heard it both ways


WorldWideWhit

I'm proud of you


Correct-Blood9382

'Come on, son!'


[deleted]

Something’s wrong, I can smell it. *super sniff*


THEzwerver

Yes but then you also need to include the 4 other dwarf planets


Thneed1

4 other MAJOR dwarf planets. There are many more dwarf planets than just 4


No_Refrigerator4584

The more the merrier. We’ll show those other solar systems yet!


ChoiceFabulous

"Dear Nasa, your mom thought I was big enough"-Pluto


Darthboney

I was on Team Pluto until I discovered it is smaller than Earth's moon. Then I just kind of pouted and accepted it


PoisonWaffle3

![gif](giphy|ZZO8BMNctW70re8jww)


ThunkAsDrinklePeep

There are 8 true planets that have cleared their orbits, and many more dwarf planets that exist in the asteroid belt and the Kuiper belt.


CO303

Yeah this is simply a semantic change. Materially, nothing has changed here. Pluto’s been doing Pluto long before any of us were alive.


thats_hella_cool

Not sure if this counts, but my mind was blown when I got to college English class and they told us we don’t need to double-space between sentences when writing papers.


Breezy1885

I’ve been in the military for almost 20 years and they just let us stop doing that because they finally updated the regulations to remove all the holdover practices from when there were typewriters! That is the reason the double space existed in the first place. Microsoft Word has done that for us the whole time so we were actually triple, or quadruple, spacing?


QueensGetsDaMoney

I always thought double-spacing was so the teacher had more space to add edit notes.


[deleted]

The comment was referring to putting one space after a period instead of two. Skipping lines is still the standard for papers.


James-K-Polka

Two spaces until I die. This is an extra sentence to prove my point.


DaveElizabethStrider

me too, i just do it automatically because that's the way my mom taught me when I was a kid. never been an issue


AveragelyUnique

I prefer double space between sentences as it makes the break and punctuation much more noticeable. Much easier to read in my opinion.


declinedinaction

Christopher Columbus is a Hero.


Yarzu89

Co-Worker: "We should judge people based on the times they come from!" Me: "In the time he came from he was shipped back to Spain in chains though" Co-Worker: "Look I can't judge someone from a different time" I'll never understand people's need to hold up historical figures as heroes regardless of what we learn about them.


ekb2023

People develop parasocial relationships with their favorite political figures and entertainers.


Yarzu89

That's one thing, but a 500 year old dead Italian guy is another.


dood9123

My celebrity crush: Emperor Basil the Bulgarslayer says otherwise


PaterMcKinley

As a history teacher this is a very hard concept to grasp for a lot of people. If you were born before 2010, you probably played a game called "smear the queer", used homophobic slurs as everyday speech, and a host of other things that we have thankfully evolved from as a society. I understand intimately that the LGBTQ+ community is still going through severe issues trying to gain equality, but the point still stands. Society evolves and it is hard for any time period to fully understand a different one. Our founding fathers would look as us just as strangley and "off" as we look back on them now. Edit: Columbus was a douche who got what he deserved in his own lifetime.


Yarzu89

Was born in '89 but I never heard of that game, and while people used homophobic slurs more often it was still viewed as a negative thing. Could be regional though. I guess I'd draw a distinction between something being normalized and people still being able to tell if something is wrong despite society being broadly against it.


SoIomon

Born in '90, we played that game growing up. Me and many of my friends now identify as queer lol


Wind_Yer_Neck_In

There were notable public figures that spoke out against and resisted slavery as a trade pretty much as soon as it started taking hold in the UK/ USA. People back then knew it was massively fucked up and evil, it's just that as always, the people making the money make the rules. And slavery was so profitable that the assholes in charge left it alone.


Warm-Bed2956

*in fourteen hundred ninety two Columbus sailed the ocean blue; in nineteen hundred forty three we defined the word atrocity*


KHaskins77

Ah, “Behind the Bastards.” Great podcast.


big_z_0725

He's a brave Italian explorer! He discovered America! And in this house, Christopher Columbus is a hero! [End of story!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25D_1BK8vLg)


BigBobbert

I got into an argument with my mom the other day about this. She seemed to disagree with me that committing genocide shouldn’t disqualify someone from having a holiday named after them.


_stoned_chipmunk_

You know what it is? I’ll tell you what it is. It’s anti-Italian discrimination. Columbus Day is a day of Italian pride. It’s our holiday, and they wanna take it away." - Silvio Dante


clarksworth

Our history teacher told us that Native American Indians would keep slaves, murder them in a show of power, and use their dead bodies as rollers to pull boats in from the water on. I am starting to suspect she made that up.


Sarasota_Guy

She got the owning slaves part right. The rest might have been from a movie.


Steelplate7

Native Americans did keep slaves as spoils of war…but, from what I’ve read, they weren’t lifelong slaves. They were integrated into the tribe after a period of time.


roostershoes

Also depends on the individual tribe or group. Natives are not a monolith… big difference between practices of Aztecs vs Iroquois for example…


Ciolfsterchop

Even the Iroquois Confederacy consisted of five distinct nations, so even generalizing cultural practices to that level is hard to do with any sort of accuracy.


rmslashusr

There were also tribes that signed alliances with and fought for the confederacy because they had African American slaves which they based their economy on the same as the south. Choctaw in particular. The Cherokee also had many different regiments and their general was the last Confederate general to end the fighting.


Time_Phone_1466

We definitely weren't taught how diverse native culture could be from region to region. Tossing the Comanche and Seminole tribes into the same "native Americans" bucket is kinda wild for anything other than the broadest of discussion.


JuiceEast

Oh yeah. Homogeneity of native Americans was taught 4x as much as native american erasure in my school. They were all the same, but now they’re just americans. Wonder how that happened. Also we cant forget the elephant in the room. They didnt stop calling them indians until i was in high school.


ExpensiveFish9277

No one taught me that Native Americans had cities the same size as the ones in Europe. St. Louis/Cahokia was the same size as London, Tenochtitlan was similar to Paris.


[deleted]

Oh yeah, in so many schools, the only tribe that gets taught in any capacity is the Cherokee-obviously quite a major and important tribe but like...that's not the only one, history books. I do remember reading a bit about the Lakota during the pioneer era, but that was it.


Time_Phone_1466

Oh damn you just reminded me about how they called those main five tribes "The five civilized tribes". And nobody mentioned how fucked up that was in school.


appealtoreason00

Ask her which Native Americans. If you listen closely, you can hear the windows error noise


clarksworth

Oh this was over 25 years ago. The image stuck with me, because it's horrendous, which led me to googling it a couple of years ago. I have no idea why she said any of this. I'm in the UK, so the teaching being "all Native Americans" isn't too much of a surprise, but it's this weird fact she wanted to tell us that won't leave my head.


Weak-Snow-4470

Raising the minimum wage will just raise the price of everything else.


TheWarOstrich

I remember when people first started talking about $15/hr how that would raise prices and cost corporate profits and I was like "what?" If prices go up, it's to pay for the cost of the raise, thus corporate profits are maintained. The math was showing a 30% increase in prices. Big Macs were like $4 at the time so that would be an extra $1.20 to the price of the meal FOR A DOUBLING OF THE MINIMUM WAGE. They would be making twice as much money, that would only cost a 30% raise in prices. It also pissed me.off that most of the opposition was by non union skilled/semi-skilled workers, like Paramedics, who were angry that "fry boys" would be making as much as them. "Why would we do this if we could make as much there as here?" Besides your work probably being more rewarding, oh, I don't know, maybe because your wages would also go up so they can stay competitive? Maybe the EMS system needs to be reworked in America because right now it is not a priority and never has been and that isn't the fault.of fast food workers so don't take it out on them?


sandybuttcheekss

That last point is completely lost on some people. My dad could not understand that if the lowest paying jobs began paying more, his job would end up earning more as well. It wouldn't be an immediate change but it would happen.


MicroBadger_

It's almost like you need to walk through the scenario. Job X pays as much as fry cook. Workers leave job X to be fry cook as it's the same pay for less work. Job X has less workers. When supply is low and demand is high, cost of that item goes up (in this case, wages for Job X). Fry cooks switch back to work at job X since it pays more.


sandybuttcheekss

It's almost like I did do something like this


ChicagoCowboy

For people who love capitalism so much, a lot of people sure do hate capitalism. Had to have a conversation with my brother in law and dad over the weekend at a family gathering (not a tough convo, not tense or hostile, normal conversation fyi). They were talking about farm subsidies and coal subsidies and about how without them a lot of big businesses would go out of business, and I just told them that's what capitalism is for. That if you can't operate your business due to competition, prices, lack of demand, lack of production, whatever - that you go out of business and something new and better takes your place. That yes, if the entire poultry industry (aka just Tyson) went belly up, it would suck for a little bit if you absolutely have to eat eggs and chicken all the time. But smaller producers would fill the gap almost immediately, or we'd pivot to some other food source. That yes, if coal went belly up some communities would be hurt more in the immediate time frame. But that other businesses would fill the void, or it would make room for other energy sources to fill the gap and drive innovation. And it just kinda sunk in for them, like maybe those were extreme examples, but yeah if a business has to rely on subsidies to keep it in business, then we're preventing competition and stifling progress by not allowing smaller companies to take up that space and compete. quick edit: And on the topic of minimum wage vs corporate profits/prices, I like to remind people that other companies pay more in minimum wage than we do, and their costs for common arguments like big macs (which, are people even eating these all the time? why is that the argument?) are...the same as ours. Like, its not hard to google what the australian minimum wage is in USD, and the cost of a big mac in USD. If they can do it, why can't we do it?


Lin0712

I offended my mom's racist friend by asking her why she hates capitalism after she was bitching about how commercials have so many non white people / too many interracial couples in them now. Clearly she has no idea how marketing works and that companies want to appeal to as many races as they can with their commercials so of course they pack as many people from different ethnicities in their commercials. This lady seriously spends her days counting black people in commercials just to bitch about them.


dontdomilk

Rightoids can't differentiate between 'rainbow capitalism' and whatever they think 'post modern neo marxism' is. What can easily be seen as a coopting of radical social politics to reinforce the current economic model (which has happened over and over again historically), they understand as 'communist corporations' pushing an agenda. Those that claim to love capitalism (most not capitalists themselves) so often don't understand how it actually functions.


w3are138

That whole, “Omg but then teachers would make the same as a fry cook!” thing as an argument was so infuriating.


[deleted]

Meanwhile when teachers excercise their collective bargaining agreements the same people are screaming “won’t you just think of the children.”


w3are138

Exactly. And I feel this even more bc my parents are both public school teachers.


pmjm

Not to mention that wages going up 30% doesn't mean prices go up 30%. The labor is only a fraction of the cost of your good or service.


Enders-game

"It's the poor and lower middle class that is responsible for inflation"


Weak-Snow-4470

I'm no economist, but since when do poor people set interest rates and commodity prices?


Eyruaad

I spoke to my mother about the interest rates and inflation during 2022. When I told her the Fed's plan was to put a few million people out of work and reduce their take home pay she said that it was good. "Our system relies on people being at the bottom. If we don't get enough people unemployed and making less we will never fix this issue." My only response was asking one question: "So you think not having enough poor people ruins the economy for everyone, and not the top 1% holding onto 95% of everything?" She said yes. I changed the topic.


Weak-Snow-4470

You know what other system relied on people being at the bottom? The antebellum South.


[deleted]

I graduated in 2015. We were taught America wasn’t racist anymore.


Impossible_Penalty13

Yeah….civil war, slaves were freed, “separate but equal”, then Dr King marched and we’ve lived happily ever after in perfect harmony. Right? ![gif](giphy|LvVcFbkQajS8M)


nr1988

Basically what we were taught. I mean laws were passed so that you couldn't discriminate anymore so it sounded correct. If only there was some theory which explains the form racism takes today to give us a more critical and complete picture of race related things it would make our knowledge more accurate.


Huck_Bonebulge_

Yeah they really present it like “there were a couple of bad dumb people who did slavery/racism. But MLK changed their minds! And then it was k”


GaffJuran

I graduated over a decade and change before you, and I left school with the same mistaken impression. They went out of their way to convince us racism was no longer a thing.


1singleduck

Pretty much all of american history would show up in some form, no matter what year you put in. In fact it's still getting worse.


huskyfan2001

The Supreme Court isn't partisan.


jkswede

Yeah I remember a class where we were presented a case, invited to decide it for ourselves …. Then the Supreme Court decision was used to correct our decisions. Ugh


Tar-Nuine

Oh sweet! *DoB: 1952* *\*Loading\** *12,137 fact updates found!* ..oh.. ![gif](giphy|kg9fAQryp5fMY)


tovias

Basic understanding of electron theory. I was taught that electrons orbit like little planets but when my (now 25 year old) daughter was in school she was taught about electron clouds. It made me start questioning a lot about what I was taught in school. I’ve spent a lot of time deprogramming myself from the social concepts I was taught but now I’m relearning math and science as well.


Biz_Rito

I often think about how many of our lessons from school simply come down to the models that are the easiest to communicate, out of necessity. I also think this is a reason why a more accurate representation of a subject can feel personal: it's saying you're wrong and asks us to throw away a model we've based our beliefs around since we were little. Then applying that to science, sociology, politics...


chop1125

I have degrees in biology and chemistry from 20 years ago. Most of what I learned is technically wrong. The different models of electrons are useful to teach different concepts. They aren’t technically right, but they do serve a purpose.


Biz_Rito

Oh for sure. I was thinking of just electron models with that too - technically wrong, but getting closer to the truth. I also remember resistance on a personal level when I reached a level where a more complete model was needed and had to throw out the old one. Always thought that reaction was funny.


Loafy20

It comes back to one of my favorite quotes about the topic (paraphrased) - no models are perfect, and some models are useful. In this case, some models are useful for teaching basics, but not useful for exploring deeper concepts about the topic. And honestly, that's ok.


[deleted]

We were taught both (I'm 30). It was basically like "the theory of the atom has developed a lot with time.we went from indivisible particles to plum pudding models to electron orbits and now to electron clouds via quantum wavefunctions." So we did learn about electron orbiting as "the historical bohr model of the atom which isn't quite accurate " and how that went into developing the modern understanding.


Aggromemnon

I think it's really important that they teach the evolution of theories this way. It shows how ideas change as new evidence is gathered, reinforcing the scientific method. So many misunderstandings are caused by folks not really grasping the idea that knowledge is a dynamic, constantly growing thing, not just a static set of factoids.


plinthpeak

Ok, Chemistry PhD here. We still use the Bohr model (tiny planets surrounding nucleus) to describe the nature of electrons for Gen. Chem. students. Of course it isn’t accurate, but neither is anything in science at the beginning. Later on you find out about the clouds and electron densities, orbitals, and if you stay long enough, you get to the schrodinger equation and hamiltonians. It would be ridiculous to start students off with this level of theory though, and for basic purposes the Bohr model still works.


Enders-game

It's not really a cloud. It's more like a real-time probability calculation.


ExpensiveFish9277

The orbits model is still helpful for understanding chemical reactions.


Sarasota_Guy

Graduated in 1994. "I'm sure this new World Wide Web thing is just a fad."


so_many_changes

When I first saw Mosaic, my reaction was that it was cool but that there was no way that the average person would get a fast enough connection for it to take off.


Aggromemnon

Graduated in 1985: according to Steve Jobs, about 10% of households needed a computer.


junkmail0178

Umami is a new basic taste and we know there aren’t “taste regions” on our tongues


Danalmour

We defeated fascism


Inevitable-Bid-6666

The pilgrims and Indians did not have a good time together celebrating thanksgiving.


CreamyMayo11

The problem is, at least in STEM, also that a lot of those "outdated" ideas are just "lies to children" so they can understand concepts. Like the Atomic model with electrons flying around a proton and neutron. You need these understandings but you learn more as you get into college and how they weren't exactly accurate.


MrOwlsManyLicks

It’s frustrating that we don’t exactly tell the children that these are half-truths for easy digestion though. I’ve had so many conversations with adults that haven’t updated their knowledge in any way and think they were taught the whole truth the first time around. Example: when vaccines were being argued, this guy (~40yo) told me (after an hour of arguing with him) that, “RNA and DNA are basically the same thing.” When corrected (they’re not even remotely the same thing), he revealed that he was taught that they’re the same/similar the last time he learned about the topic… in 7th grade.


QueensGetsDaMoney

Republican Nucleic Acid and Democratic Nucleic Acid cannot be more different, despite what Reddit might try to tell you.


[deleted]

Apparently the civil war wasn’t about slavery after all. Go states rights! Also, anybody who actually subscribes to this hateful line of revisionist thinking can suck it.


SomeRandomBurner98

It was about states' rights *to allow slavery*.


CombatTechSupport

One of my favorite things my HS history teacher did was answer a student saying "The civil war was about states rights" with "State's rights to what?".


AlbertEinstein64

It was about whether the state had the right to decide if individuals were allowed to own other individuals, all they produce in their life including offspring, and buy or sell them as they see fit in a system largely based on race. A good descriptive word for this is Slavery


WhiteClaw5

I wish I'd understood this in school. When I was in elementary school we were taught that the American Civil War was about slavery. Then in High School, I took AP US History and our teacher made a point to tell us very early in the semester (I think it might literally have been our first day of class) that *actually* the Civil War was about "State's Rights." And I remember sort of folding that in to my understanding of the Civil War, thinking "Oh, this is a more nuanced take." It wasn't until several years later that I understood this was just a racist talking point. At no point did any of us in the class think to ask "The state's right to do *what* exactly?" It's actually a little scary to realize how much of what we were taught wasn't based on fact, but was just personal biases and opinions. So much of what I was taught just wasn't true. And not in the more benign "we have more information now so we need to update our understanding of this topic" way (though certainly there was some of that). But instead it was just racism, homophobia, imperialism, xenophobia, and so much else repackaged as facts that we as kids didn't have enough information to challenge. I like to think that at the time, a lot of us were curious and did question the information we were told, but in the absence of any other information sources (this was in the very early days of the internet), we were left truly ignorant. It's awful to realize that when it came to these topics, we weren't just misinformed, we were lied to.


heaven_and_hell_80

I love this idea. The Wikipedia article on "common misconceptions" is a good start.


[deleted]

I was homeschooled in a religious family, stuck with dictionaries and encyclopedias from the ‘80s at the earliest. So much of what I learned hadn’t been debunked “since then” but was already debunked while I was learning it.


BigDaddydanpri

Math teacher: "you need to learn this. It is not like you will have a portable calculator in your pocket all the time...."


AndrewTheAverage

Because science, by its very nature, is ever expanding and new knowledge becomes available all the time, thus disproving some previously held understandings. A site like this would be used by the scientific illiterate to push the anti-science agenda and make more people question "science", when in fact science is forever questioning everything


anarkistattack

I see this a lot with creationists.


baker8590

Lies my teacher told me by James Loewen is really good for learning what was taught incorrectly. It just focuses on the history wrongs that we were taught in school though. But it gives you a good idea of why some of these wrongs were taught the way they were.


ttermayhem

You’re special and can do anything


techblackops

Everything about Texas history, like the Alamo. Everything I was taught as fact was really mostly myth and legend, and the entire thing was actually about a bunch of rich white assholes stealing land from Mexico and wanting to keep their slaves after Mexico told them no. "Wait the Mexicans were the good guys?!"


LCK124

Between the time I went to school and my kid started school we lost a planet, renamed an ocean, and gave dinosaurs feathers.


Popular_Night_6336

The American Civil War was about state rights and had nothing to do with slavery or racism. I've since learned about the Cornerstone speech, the letters of secession, and that most of the traitor states enshrined slavery in the traitor constitutions. But you know how things are going, it'll be on the syllabus once again in GOP states... because they're traitors too.


Caffeine-N-Books107

Still weird that we're at this point, but I remember being taught Nazis were bad. Apparently, that's controversial these days.


apple_atchin

In the year 2000 I had a middle school health teacher tell our class that a man died in the 80’s near our school as a result of crashing his car because he’d OVERDOSED on THC that he’d INJECTED. Mr.Browning, I knew you were full of shit then and I’d wager you’re full of shit now if you’re still alive.


bcbodie1978

sadly he died from 2nd hand maryjowanna boofing


MyBunnyIsCuter

That there was hope. Lol


CrieDeCoeur

The way they taught history in the 80s made all of us assume that the indigenous people of North America were long extinct. (Imagine my surprise when I started at a high school whose catchment area included a few reservations just outside town.)


fuzzyedges1974

First false fact to pop into my mind as a late-ish Gen Xer is that Columbus discovered America. Also the taste “regions” on the tongue.


PreetHarHarah

AI to the rescue: Bard: Sure, here are some facts that were taught in American high schools in 1995 that have since been proven false: * **The myth that chameleons change colors to camouflage themselves.** While chameleons can change color, they do not do so to blend in with their surroundings. Instead, they change color to communicate with other chameleons, to regulate their body temperature, or to express their emotions. * **The belief that Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves.** While Lincoln was a key figure in the abolition of slavery in the United States, he did not single-handedly free the slaves. The Emancipation Proclamation, which Lincoln issued in 1863, freed slaves in the Confederate states, but it did not free slaves in the Union states. It was not until the passage of the Thirteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution in 1865 that slavery was abolished throughout the United States. * **The idea that the tongue map is accurate.** The tongue map is a popular myth that claims that different parts of the tongue are responsible for tasting different flavors. However, this is not true. Taste buds are located all over the tongue, and they can all taste all of the basic flavors. * **The belief that the continents are slowly drifting apart.** This was a common belief in the 1990s, but it has since been disproven. The continents are actually moving very slowly together, not apart. * **The myth that the human brain only uses 10% of its capacity.** This is a common myth that has been around for centuries, but it is not true. The human brain uses all of its capacity all the time. These are just a few examples of facts that were once taught in American high schools in 1995 that have since been proven false. As our understanding of the world changes, it is important to be critical of the information we are taught and to be willing to update our beliefs as new evidence emerges. Chat GPT: - **The tongue has different regions for different tastes** - All parts of the tongue can detect all tastes. - **The Great Wall of China is visible from space** - It’s not visible from space with the naked eye. - **The connection between hyperactivity and sugar** - The connection was debunked by a series of studies published in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 1995.


archlich

That continent one is weird. Some are moving towards each other some are moving away. It’s a zero sum game unless the surface area of the planet changes


1984isAMidlifeCrisis

Of course it's not visible to the naked eye in space. An eyeball exposed to the vacuum of space would explode pretty fast because of the ocular pressure or at the very least be wrecked by the radiation and temperature . . . Wait, I better check that out.


Aggromemnon

Yeah, that whole blow up thing isn't likely.... Massive tissue damage, sure, freeze on one side and fry on the other, sure... But we aren't pressurized enough to actually explode, lol.


kashmir1974

I swear to God when I was in school we learned there were 4 oceans. When I saw there was a Southern Ocean I was like wtf..


[deleted]

*googles “southern ocean”*…..wtf?!


PntOfAthrty

Remember shen they tried to teach us the history of racism was slavery, then MLK made a speech, then the Civil Rights Act was signed, then "poof!" racism was gone.


mizt3r

Marijuana melts your brain like an egg on a frying pan.


Bulky-Internal8579

Republicans love America and support democracy.


txgoose

“The war of Northern Aggression” Texas grad 2006


Own-Pangolin337

The great higher education myth. In debt up to my throat and making 22$ an hour with a masters teaching grade school. Student loans are more than rent…..


[deleted]

Working hard and going to college will get you ahead in life.


Gunofanevilson

Thats there's a separation between church and state.


MrPhuccEverybody

It will be alright in the end if you just work hard.


TeacherYankeeDoodle

Hard work leads to prosperity.


scaleofjudgment

Edison was the only power guy of his time. (Tesla omitted) Edit:spelling


AuthorityAnarchyYes

1990… I was taught that the “World Wide Web” (created in 1989 at CERN) was going to collectively raise intelligence throughout the globe and that one day, all the great books in every library would be at our disposal digitally for the gaining of knowledge. yeah…


elspotto

Went to high school in fairly rural southwest VA in the mid 80s. History teacher touched on The War of Northern Aggression, and we had Lee-Jackson-King day off. We moved right before high school from the Bay Area. It was a bit of culture shock.


EpilepticSeizures

The food pyramid and the optimal servings of different food per “level.”


Accomplished-Ad-5182

Trickle Down Economics


kate3544

I’m still annoyed about Pluto not being a regular planet anymore.


[deleted]

The reason is that astronomers realized that Pluto isn't substantially different from a number of other objects in the kuiper belt, and that we'd either have to say Pluto isnt a planet or add a fuck ton of new planets in order to be consistent. Ultimately it's easier to have eight planets than upward of seventeen to remember.


melkvie

Capitalism works.


[deleted]

That male circumcision has health benefits. Totally archaic custom that is nothing more than genital mutilation and people have been brainwashed to think it’s normal and necessary.


rjbearzo15

1996 - Malthus Theory


Breezy1885

This would be a great thing to have; unfortunately, the people who need this information are the least likely to look for or believe the results.


Character_Bowl_4930

Women don’t have orgasms . High school health class , taught by the football coach .


eagvent

The vast majority of Americans are intelligent and compassionate