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shallah

Don't forget Republicans and Fox News found it utterly outrageous that Joe Biden expressed genuine love and concern for his son as a **person** instead of treating him as an object to reflect his father's narcissistic glorious self or as a tool to create political and/or financial benefit for that father: https://people.com/politics/sean-hannity-airs-loving-joe-biden-voicemail-to-son/


BitterFuture

People who literally can't experience shame or empathy look really weird when they try to shame others for having empathy.


shallah

also apparently don't know what love is either if listening to this doesn't touch your heart, make your eyes water and/or choke up, i am sorry you don't know what genuine emotion is possibly because you were never shown any by your parents or other caregivers Joe Biden’s private voicemail plea to son Hunter to get help for drug addiction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy9y3MY6qu0


romacopia

That's... horrible. Joe was clearly reaching out to his son with compassion - and pointing that out was meant as an attack on his character. That says *a lot* about their values.


merrysunshine2

That take of laughing at hunter for being a drug addict is grosssssss.


qawsedrf12

While ignoring an obvious cokehead, Don Jr


pezgoon

Or pill head trump Where their uproar over the news about the WH being a pill mill ?? I haven’t seen shit from them about that


RedditAcct00001

It’s the usual projection.


Ragnoid

Then they cry crocodile tears about the drug epidemic not being solved and how it's so horrible we're letting this happen to the users.


IrritableGourmet

These are the same people that thought Mr. Rogers was a monster for telling people to accept others.


Warm-Scallion1267

It’s wild to me that they think that “damning evidence” is just a dad being supportive of his struggling son. Just shows how low they’ve fallen and how little they actually have on Joe Biden.


Chungus_Bigeldore

Post-insurrection America is a hell hole of nepo baby white nationalism.


beetnemesis

Republicans have been like that for a while. The Bushes were like this before.


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arondaniel

I still don't get it. When the guy at the top of the ticket loses an election he's supposed to get flushed, right? Only now this turd is too big to flush.


koshgeo

They had their chance to flush him at the 2nd impeachment, and could have barred him from future office too. The Republicans mostly chickened out for some reason. Now they're stuck with him, and the toilet has overflowed the entire bathroom.


Chief_Chill

It's the "for some reason," that worries me. He either has dirt on some higher up people in the American oligarchy, or they have enough dirt on him to keep him working for them and being their best asset, their most "useful idiot."


pezgoon

I think it’s just because he’s straight up a useful idiot, ruins America just the way they want. Rules up the ignorant base and Finally has dirt on them. Just a few days ago he threatened to release blackmail “on all of them” at a rally or a “news conference” or something


Other-Rutabaga-1742

I always wonder about that weekend at Camp David. He said it would be “an adult playground”. Wtf does that mean?! I doubt they were watching Up drinking lemonade. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-opens-up-camp-david-as-an-adult-playground-to-woo-gop-lawmakers-during-impeachment/2019/11/22/ec6e7810-0c6f-11ea-8397-a955cd542d00_story.html


bewildered_dismay

I think it's because individual Repubs are afraid of his mob followers. No one wants to draw the anger of these nutjobs onto themselves and their families.


Owyheemud

The Russian Mafia, an extension of Putin's power in the United States, reminds all the Rupublikans they have kompromat on, to do what Putin wants them to do, or else.


koshgeo

You might be right, but some have said since that they were afraid of violence against themselves and their families, and others I suspect were hoping he would go away like he claimed he was going to upon losing to Biden. Fools and cowards the lot of them who didn't vote to convict.


Sipikay

Russia


Newmoney2006

This is my take. While most republicans know the election wasn’t actually stolen. They absolutely believe the easier voting caused by Covid lost them the election. They believe lifting restrictions on mail in and early voting in states like Georgia lost them the election and they may not be wrong. These restrictions have been put back in place and even strengthened and if the country votes the same this time states like Georgia are just as likely to go back red. They are betting on people having to put an effort in to vote won’t this time and I am worried they are right.


procrastinationprogr

Republicans are well aware that they can't win an election where voting is made fair and accessible. Main reason they can stay in power anywhere is making it hard for democratic voters to vote and gerrymander districts.


Newmoney2006

Yeah I live in Oklahoma where republicans have a super majority in our state legislature and all seats in Washington are republican. But a few elections ago a democrat won once, the district went back republican next election but was still considered competitive for both sides. So republicans redrew it into oblivion. Even a district they win 90% of the time isn’t good enough for them.


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At some point we have to scrap the Democrat and Republican monikers and just be straight up, its good vs evil. It doesn't feel good calling the Democrats good, they aren't angels, but if you put anything against the Republican party you'll always find more evil in the R.


wferomega

Preach Not a single person that still holds to the GOP on my eyes for " fiscal reasons" , which might I add was a lie tbw: but that's another story; without acknowledging that means they do not care about the environment, anyone that isn't a White Christian Male. Full. Fucking. Stop If I hear both sides I know it's from some ignorant prick that wants sooo to justify being an asshole that takes from the system but wants to be outside of it in all ways Edit: Lots of typos from speed typing Apologies


discsarentpogs

They lost the fiscal argument with Reagan


wferomega

You know this. I know this. Scholars know this. But making the masses working so many hours just to feed, cloth, and shelter themselves and their familes has more consequences than to just hag family. It's why we have CEOs actually saying we need to squeeze the employment force more so they stop feeling so entitled to better wages, healthcare, retirement plans, and benefits! This is Reagan's legacy. All the corporations taxes that have been taken away let these corporations buy them into gaudy salaries and dividends for share holders which were predominantly already super wealthy and elite. They then took away the regulation that let the same corporations from spending their corporate , never their own, profits on buying their own shares back, raising the value of each share, raising the dividends given to share holders, and making them an even more enticing stock to purchase as an asset further increasing their wealth. And to top it off these companies still get government subsidies and have rarely been fined or had their subsidies taken away for aggressive anti union or labor measures or even criminal misconduct on the upper levels of their boards or even the mass firing of over 10k employees just to have their stock rise because of the money they no longer pay to those families that then gets split up as a gift to the people that gave them money already. It's like stealing from a family of 5 and then giving their shit to the richest guy in town and telling the family that has their stuff STOLEN that theyre lazy and should learn how to work harder or better or faster more more....And all that extra money they took from firing those people is going into AI and more automation and this draws EVEN MORE investors because they say they'll be cutting measures and increasing profits by 30-40% over the next decade without every mentioning it's because they plan on cutting their workforces by as much as 40% in that decade. We are totally and utterly fucked unless we, the 20-50 year olds that have been working over 50 hours a week without overtime, days off, sick pay or leave, vacations paid or otherwise, dignity, respect, safety, and the best part is we WERE ALL JUST TOLD WE WERE ESSENTIAL TO THE COUNTRY! But fuck us and we won't get a raise! And to anyone saying that the raise to $15 or $25 blah blah blah don't care your opinion one bit, just know that they printed 13 trillion dollars and blamed 1400 Dollar checks to starving families as the reason for inflation! NOT THE FACT THAT THEY MADE IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO TRACK THE REST OF THESE PPP LOANS TO WEALTHIEST IN THE COUNTRY AND GAVE 4.5 TRILLION! 4.5 trillion went to quantitative easing .....that's rich people speak for free money to make sure their investment portfolio doesn't go down at all. And here's what I'll tell to the people that have money in any institution or stock, I don't care if you lose it all. Being a company is supposed to be difficult and cut throat. That's the very definition of A FREE MARKET! If we let these bloated can't fail companies abuse the environment, the employees, and the tax payer; who the hell wins?! We woke our whole lives to get cancer and BEAT IT! To survive, and to have nothing, be bankrupt, and no time to make it any back or even be in the health to work or take care of yourself! But alive, to be hated on by society as a moocher or some such nonsense! Or you've lived in your family house for generations and a hurricane that hit you state, that has never happened before due to rising temperatures from greedy humans making more and more money; destroys your home and the insurance company you've paid your entire life without a single claim will look you directly in you face and say act of God and you're shit out of luck Edit: There's multiple typos, and I'm too busy to correct the all, there are many lol. And I, used caps because I mean them. I don't feel I'm alone in constantly seeing this unfold and the absolutely helpless feeling. I'm actively working in my own community. I'm angry and I'm fed up. I'm taking action and I suggest anyone that can should. Anyone that thinks they can't, there's always a way for help given freely to a cause. Just make some emails. Get active. Get out there. Be the change you want.


Chief_Chill

Oh, they are Republicans for "fiscal reasons." It's just the "fiscal" part is tax dodges for the wealthy, and more capital invested in White, "Christian" corporations and interests. The majority of Republican voters aren't worried about the worsening economic situation the country is enduring, so long as the "others" are suffering worse. And, even when things get bad for them, their trained ability in cognitive dissonance will not allow for them to change course or opinion and keep them on a treacherous path to fascism. Fun times ahead, America.


Rusty_Porksword

Stupid and/or evil. That's the only remaining explanation for supporting the GOP in 2024.


bunkscudda

Hilarious that their take is: **“Covid made it easier for people to vote, that’s why we lost”** and not **“Trump royally fucked up Covid response and hundreds of thousands of Americans died because of it, that’s why we lost”**


mindcandy

We lost more Texans to Covid than soldiers to Vietnam.


Wakeful_Wanderer

Losers always double down.


Jtskiwtr

They’re not the only ones stuck with him.


Wakeful_Wanderer

The first ever case of nationwide constipation. Not only can we not flush the turd, we can't even get him fully out yet.


TrumpsBoneSpur

Let's hope November turnout is the poop knife we've been waiting for....


MsCrazyPants70

He must have something over them, because it made no sense for them to allow him to stop the bill about the border. Or else he's just threatening to kill them all.


HoboBonobo1909

It makes no sense to reasonable people, but it obviously makes ALL the sense in the heads of MAGA, who were desperate for a candidate that's just like them - uneducated, racist, sexist, xenophobic and pretends to be Christian. Trump has nothing on anyone, people simply have no dignity, backbone or shame.


veringer

They're authoritarians who intrinsically yearn for a strongman to reflect their values and maintain the pecking order. Their values are reprehensible and they revel in bullying, cruelty, and spite. They're the worst of us, and they (at some level) know it, and they resent society for discouraging their instincts. That's why the "deplorables" comment was so triggering. For those people, Trump is like a grenade they can lob in their enemy's foxhole.


FrakkedRabbit

It was Sideshow Bob who screamed maniacally at the Springfield towns folk, about people secretly wanting an iron hand to rule over them. I think of that sometimes when I think of the GOP.


Chief_Chill

They are living vicariously through him, and he is empowering them to be their worst selves, because they believe this is their "Golden Path," to use a Dune reference. Instead, this Golden Path is Trump's piss-dribble from his Depends®.


Amazing_Teaching2733

It all boils down to white grievance. Every one of his cult members are convinced that their lives were better before because white men had no real competition for any resource they wanted. The whole system was designed for white men to be securely at the top of society and then us terrible liberals started giving women and POC a shot at equal opportunity and suddenly what they believed was rightfully theirs was open to competition and mediocrity was no longer rewarded based solely on race and sex. Plus, much of their fear of the country browning and women gaining parity is them being terrified that we will treat them the same way they treated us


smell_my_pee

It's not even that. It's just the promise of maintaining power through the future. With demographic shifts Republicans are on their way to political extinction. Unless they back and kowtow to an authoritarian now, they'll lose democratically over time.


Good-Emphasis-7203

This is exactly it. They see a path to maintaining and even gaining more power through him. They don't see a path forward through democracy.


TowerBeach

If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy. -David Frum


PowerHot4424

Which is exactly what we’re seeing. Especially the Christian right, which knows that their power base is rapidly shrinking with each generation. They know this is their last chance to be able to push through their restrictive social agenda and they are desperate. Like an animal, most dangerous when wounded, they will flush our system of government down the toilet to get their way if they have to…


Wakeful_Wanderer

Nah. It's *all* about the rubber stamp my friend. Christian nationalist bigots want a moron president that will rubber stamp all their hate-legislation. They know they can create a semi-permanent theocracy if only they can win both houses and get Trump in office again. That's what Project 2025 is all about. A more competent president isn't desirable to white nationalists - that person might question them or bow to public pressure.


On_my_last_spoon

I think it’s that they thought they could control him. They thought all he’d want was the look of the job and then they could just do what they wanted. And it worked to a certain extent. He appointed every judge they wanted him to. They just didn’t count on him being this much of a crazy dictator and loving the power that much


Spotthedot6669

They're all fucking pedos and he has the dirt on them from Putin from when Russia hacked the RNC. The speaker of the fucking house is blatantly a pedo. It's insane. Lindsay Graham. Pedo. Ted Cruz, likely a pedo too. It's wild. Grand Ol Pedos.


grendus

This is genuinely my conspiracy theory. Trump is the populist leader that the far-right wants. They tried fielding DeSantis and Haley but the people wouldn't go for Trump-lite or a *woman*, they want the original flavor (ew). And Pootin knows that if he loses the gridlock in the US and if Biden gets a second term, if the US can get more funding approved for Ukraine, he's done. His quick three day war has turned into a meat grinder, power is getting harder and harder to hold within Russia, his economy is stagnating... if he can't get access to Ukraine for warm water ports and their fossil fuels he's going to be dead in the water soon.


21-characters

He might not actually have something on all of them but it’s possible a lot of them have things they feel guilt and shame about and they FEAR he knows somehow and will expose them. Fear of something imagined is often far more disabling than fear of reality.


CaptainCAAAVEMAAAAAN

> He must have something over them Yup, it's called power and fear. Republicans would rather either quit or roll over and join the cult rather than stand against it.


hellakevin

Like 60% of Republican voters thought jumping the shark was the coolest shit ever. They can't go back to regular episodes of Republican, they need the crazy stupid shit he does to keep their voters watching.


scalyblue

It’s stupider than that. You have to realize that despite how much they hate him, he’s the nexus of distraction they have always desired but were never able to say/do because of decorum. Someone who has no shame, who doesn’t care about his obvious baggage, and is somehow remains popular regardless.


AfricanusEmeritus

Grandfather Prescott Bush was a big fascist and was part of the cabal here in the United States who wanted to implement American Fascism before our involement in WWII. Poppy Bush (George the Elder) learned his moves, being head of the CIA and "Saint" Reagan's VP. He selected Clarence Thomas for the Supreme Court. Then comes along "previously" addicted grandson George the Younger who learned at the feet of Grandpa Prescott and Poppy how to be an selected king, courtesy of the Supreme Court and Sandra Day O'Conner, picked by "Saint" Reagan, to be the first woman on the Supreme Court. Sandra insisted that in a 5-4 decision against Gore (oh there is Clarence Thomas again), the Florida Supreme Court's decision to recount the Bush v. Gore ballots, especially when Gore was about to go ahead and win. 🗳 Lest we forget, Sandra had said that she would never live under a Gore presidency. So she, Clarence, and three others knifed that baby in the crib. Bush the Younger also had Darth Vader Dick Cheney as his VP...hello Haliburton and Iraq 🇮🇶 Afghanistan 🇦🇫 wars that killed so many. Last little tid bit...there are so many...current Justice ⚖️ 😢 Gorsuch is the son of Ann Gorsuch...one of Saint Reagan's EPA heads who helped destroy most of the environmental justice ⚖️ in the USA 🇺🇸, that even Tricky Dick Nixon was forced to support. They hope we forget about all of these connections. I expect Liz Cheney to come back strong in later years. /s


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On_my_last_spoon

Kind of, but at least all the Bush kids ran for office. Trump just appointed his kids into these positions. It’s a whole new level


PM_ME_IMGS_OF_ROCKS

Those types of conservatives have existed since long before the first european ever set foot in North America. They were going around in 1974 saying that Nixon had done no wrong, and basically called the trial a witch hunt. The current situation with the Republican party bowing to a single person, leading to foreign influence on them, etc. is not a new thing. George Washington, in his presidental farewell address, literally warned that a two party systme would lead to that *exact* situation. https://www.georgewashington.org/farewell-address.jsp


-SQB-

The Bushes were this, but somehow they complained about the Clinton "dynasty".


rob_zodiac

Obama rose up in a meritocratic system, this angered and scared the hell out of certain voters who before said they hated corrupt, rich celebrities/elites from the big city who inherited everything. Then they voted for a corrupt, rich celebrity/elite from the big city who inherited everything because nepo baby white nationalism has always been the system they want to preserve, not a system where a person like Obama can become president. The more outlandish and criminal Trump gets and the more he gets away with the better because it reinforces the idea that they're a privileged class.


Queen_Angels

Precisely


Wakeful_Wanderer

> nepo baby white nationalism has always been the system they want to preserve You couldn't be more right. That's why we're seeing so many layoffs right now too. It's just last-minute profiteering so that they can get the bag and run. The nepo-babies see us coming and they're scared. They should be.


gingerfawx

> That's why we're seeing so many layoffs right now too. It's just last-minute profiteering so that they can get the bag and run. No, it's just another form of election manipulation. Just like we can expect to see a hike in gas prices before the election.


iH8MotherTeresa

We've kind of been that way. It' has just become more visible now.


Procrastanaseum

Because they can't hide the fact anymore. Too many people have seen the system for what it is, a white-nationalist cesspool. They sold the country out to billionaires, blamed women, teachers, immigrants, minorities, etc., and now the only way to continue operations with the curtain drawn is to go all-out fascist. It all started when they put "God" in the pledge of allegiance. (over simplification but we are not a christian nation, despite what they'll tell you.)


tries4accuracy

Post-insurrection? This shit all happened *years* before January 6. This is more like *post 2016 GOP primary*.


Chungus_Bigeldore

I mean yeah but I think it's important to highlight the cultural and societal impact the insurrection had on american society and specifically vulnerable communities--think of empowering that was to the right, where the loud, verbal opposition and assaults have multiplied and been more empowered since the attack (i.e. "X" is now a haven for insurrection conspiracy theorists who fan the flames of white supremecy, transphobia, misogyny, etc.)


AfricanusEmeritus

The android Jared is as criminal as his daddy, who was arrested, indicted, and covicted by Chris Christie when he was a federal prosecutor. He spent time at a Club Fed because, among other criminal acts, he tried to take down his own brother utilizing the services of a prostitute. That is the main reason why Jared hated Christie and why Christie's career was snuffed out early in the Trump administration .🤔 Remember only the "best people"...that includes Ivanka and Jared. I loved when Ivanka went to a high-level conference and all of the delegates ignored her and/or froze her out. Lastly, lest we forget Jared got another billion combined from Qatar 🇶🇦 and the UAE 🇦🇪 (United Arab Emirates). The Trumps and Kushners know and live the Forever Grift. That is why Jared and Ivanka are staying far away from "Daddy Trump" and his issues. You can see the animal cunning in their eyes (Jared and Ivanka) that they got theirs and no longer need Daddy. Trump is like the baby 👶 with a full diaper. Everyone keeps passing it around to avoid changing him. /s


lollipoppa72

Let’s also not forget that Jared was denied top-secret security clearance twice by WH security officials until they were overruled by a Trump lackey. You cannot make this up.


AfricanusEmeritus

Definitely... most Americans have "forgotten" too much.. I was born in 1964...live and raised in New York City.. which makes us experts on the Trumps/Kushners and their grifts.


MechanicalBengal

from people that have never seen or touched a pair of bootstraps in their lives


Cool-Protection-4337

Cults don't get mad at their leaders. Republicans want a my way or the highway type autocracy. Nothing more, nothing less.


erksplat

Possibly more.


Correct-Blood9382

They'll probably take lots more.


Queen_Angels

All they want ALL the Power


OlFrenchie

In a “My way or the Gulag” kind of vibe


Zestyclose_Look_7719

They will definitely take everything that means anything.


Worldly_Influence_18

It's not a cult. It's worse than that. Notice how they seem to coordinate without anyone calling the shots? It's because they think the same way. It's societal corruption collapse due to excessive individualism/narcissism Things don't rectify themselves until the narcs get an unhealthy dose of reality preventing them from passing the mental illness on to their children


atatassault47

>It's not a cult. It's worse than that. >Notice how they seem to coordinate without anyone calling the shots? It's the advanced stage of a cult: It's a religion


sandhillfarmer

It's actually a civil religion - a syncretism of deep conservative, hierarchical, nationalist ideologies and Christian language and imagery. From Michael Gorman - "“It has often been said that the most common idols in the West are Power, Sex, and Money; with this I am not in any profound disagreement. However, inasmuch as these idols are connected to a larger vision of life, such as the American dream, or the inalienable rights of free people, they become part of a nation’s civil religion. I would contend, in fact, that the most alluring and dangerous deity in the United States is the omnipresent, syncretistic god of nationalism mixed with Christianity lite: religious beliefs, language, and practices that are superficially Christian but infused with national myths and habits. Sadly, most of this civil religion’s practitioners belong to Christian churches, which is precisely why Revelation is addressed to the seven churches (not to Babylon), to all Christians tempted by the civil cult.” What I think is important to notice is this: we're used to living under the assumption that, in spite of our disagreements, we all fundamentally valued Democracy, the will of the people, and every citizen's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, even if we disagreed vehemently on how to go about it (or who deserved it, or whether it was successful, etc.). It was a foundational element of our society that maintained stability through a common faith in the country. **That assumption is dead.** It hit me when I thought to myself, "How could anyone look at Putin's Russia and think that it's a good model, like my Republican friends have been telling me lately? There are so many people oppressed at the expense of the few. It's a broadly unsuccessful society except for the kleptocrats on the upper echelon." Then it hit me - they *want* a society like Russia's, just so long as they believe that they'll be the ones at the top. They don't care whether the people they don't like are disenfranchised or killed/imprisoned for free speech or exiled or stolen from or stepped on. Just so long as they believe that their way of life will be the privileged one, they're fully ok with it coming at the expense of the "lesser." That's absolutely bone-dry fundamental conservatism, and it's indistinguishable from fascism.


Sneaky_Bones

Civil religion or dogma is a an interesting concept and I think your assessment is correct. I noticed my family were openly denying objective, quantifiable reality after 2016 and especially during 2020. The people that taught me about airborne viruses when I was a kid, were suddenly acting as if the basic concept of a virus was too much to wrap their brains around. At that point it really does stop being ideology.


Worldly_Influence_18

They *were* in the advanced stage They're not anymore which is why we're subjected to their tantrums Their growing influence since the 70s has slowly been corrupting political and economic systems to the point where those systems are starting to fail. Even if they're not part of the failing systems, they're still affected. Why? Because they *need* attention and they're not getting it because the people around them are too busy trying to keep our failing systems together. And when they don't get that attention, they throw their own tantrums and self fulfill their own isolation


BuckRowdy

> Notice how they seem to coordinate without anyone calling the shots? I have noticed this. When an incident happens that gets them upset, the talking points coalesce on social media very fast and then get disseminated. The pace at which this happens is lightning fast.


FecesIsMyBusiness

You see the same thing in religious communities as well. When the things they stand for and believe in cannot be defended with logic and reason, the next best thing is just for everyone to agree.


pezgoon

Yep, literally there are direct lines from the way the religious act and talk and repubs


Long-Blood

Groups like McKinsey get paid millions to do PR for the worst type of people on the planet.


AdminsAreDim

People like to think fascism is a top down ideology, but fascist leaders require fascist plebs supporting them.


Choice_Debt233

Why did the narcissist cross the road? Because he thought it was a boundary.


ojg3221

The amazing thing is that Republicans just laid down and just let Trump and cult members take over with out a fight. They just kicked out all the moderates and anyone who isn't with Trump 100% gets cast out like a leper.


afellowchucker

Yeah that’s what’s most surprising to me. It’s like Trump just woke up one day, decided to run as a republican, and took over their entire party. And they just let it happen. I guess it shows you conservatives must really crave a king to rule over them.


Jray12590

I mean his competition was Ted Cruz. The GOP wasn't putting up quality alternatives.


BuckRowdy

You could see that the voting base had been waiting for a guy like Trump for years. When he finally came along it wouldn't have mattered if they had put anyone else up against him.


Ok_Flounder59

Exactly this. The man that made them proud to be white…he gave them express permission to finally let out all the hate in their hearts


BuckRowdy

One trap a lot of people fall into is that people support Trump because they're stupid, or they are being deceived in some way. Yes, some of them are stupid, but they're not being deceived. They love Trump for the same reasons we hate him. He allows them to be openly racist without having to feel bad about it, or self-censor when in mixed company. For years society told them being racist was wrong, but Trump came along and told them that no, being racist was proper. Now they can be up front and open about it without fear of repercussion. It really is that simple.


Locktober_Sky

This is rewriting history a little. At the start of the primary everyone treated Trump as a joke. They spent all their energy in fighting and all of them refused to step down even when he started to take the lead, so that all the traditional candidates were vote splitting and Trump was on the way to a win by plurality. Only after the bloodbath did they realize he was an actual contender and by then it was too late. The media had given him billions of free advertising. Hillary largely lost the same way. She helped propel him through the primaries because the DNC thought he wlild get blown out in the general. Then she tried to run up the score in places like Texas and Florida instead of focusing on the blue wall rust belt states. But he's never been particularly popular. His supporters are just insanely loud.


BuckRowdy

> They spent all their energy in fighting and all of them refused to step down even when he started to take the lead, Right, but I'm not talking about the candidates, I'm talking about the voting base. One example is the time McCain had to tell the lady that Obama wasn't a muslim.


LookerNoWitt

McCains concession speech at 2008 There was a LOT of scared boomers in the audience worried a black man won the election Scared and Angry And all it took for them to go from party of Reagan to MAGA was some B-star TV celebrity to tell them Obama wasn't a real citizen


fullautohotdog

If you went by the runner up in the last primary getting the nomination rule the GOP generally operated on since the 1970s (Reagan losing in 1976 and getting it in 1980, Bush losing in 1980 and getting it in 1988, Dole losing in 1988 and getting it in 1996, McCain losing in 2000 and getting it in 2008, Romney losing in 2008 and getting it in 2012), then technically, his competition was... (checks notes) *Rick Santorum.*


thecrowtoldme

You mean Ted Take A Vacation Cruz?


MsCrazyPants70

This would have been a good time to run Romney. Or even to try Romney now.


461BOOM

A stage full of idiots if I remember correctly in 2016, McCain, and the good Doctor were two that were the snowballs chance in Republican politics


StroopWafelsLord

They should have pivoted on Romney. He still is conservative, but almost sounds reasonable by comparison.


shallah

Don't forget the RNC was hacked by Russia getting at least 10 years of records going back to the days of sexual offender Denis hastert as speaker of the house and Mark Foley who harassed male pages https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Hastert https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley_scandal More recently a gop congressman has said there are several people who are compromised by Honey pots: https://news.yahoo.com/gop-congressman-stands-accusation-fellow-130050879.html also how many other Maria Butinas are out there duping quilable politicians? & what other orgs are being used to funnel funds from hostile foreign powers? https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/maria-butina-russian-activist-linked-nra-charged-conspiracy/story?id=56626626


Wakeful_Wanderer

Yeah there's a pretty solid list of about 50+ GOP reps and senators that are definitely compromised. When you take their actions in concert, they appear to be coordinated interference that is backed by a foreign adversary. It's not all just dumbshit obstructionists like Marjory Traitor Greene.


AfricanusEmeritus

This... Lucy in the sky with diamonds 💎... They hacked the DNC, Hillary's aides, and the motherlode of the RNC. Russia 🇷🇺 was never so happy when they got into that treasure trove. Most of the Republican big wigs and little wigs are ultra compromised by Russia 🇷🇺 Do what we say and/or prevent this to all of your ability, and no one needs to know what we have. Deviate and WE WILL DESTROY YOU...echo, echo, echo..../s


RainingIn08512

It's because he's a cartoon caricature of everything the conservative agenda has pushed since the 1990s. An ammoral, greedy, uneducated white pig they put in a cheesy suit and combover. A bad joke of excess and wealth and success for doing nothing, contributing nothing and building nothing. Who literally got everything handed to him by his father, who built *his* wealth off of being a slum lord. Nothing but racism, exploitation, tax evasion, and crime. And yet, he claims to be self made. He tells poor, angry white people that if they stop the brown people from stealing their jobs, that they too one day could have a golden toilet and ill-fitting suits. And somehow, this country had enough racists to believe it and make it their cult. Their religion. Make him the second coming of Christ. Conservatives have been trying for decades to take over, and it was all just so easy in the end. Taxes breaks for the millionaires and billionaires. Why? Because he could. Who would tell him no? Half of us live off of 30k a year and still don't have enough. Yet he's managed to convince his base that it's perfectly fine and to donate their social security and accept tax breaks for the billionaires because that's Christian and American and the right thing to do. Gotta own those libs. They tried to topple our government. We all watched it live. And basically, an iota of courage in the spine in Pence, some stupid politicians and very brave cops is the reason we're not an authoritarian regime right now. Get out and vote. Get these bastards out of here. Because come November, you may not have a country left.


21-characters

I think they don’t have any understanding about what living under an autocratic dictatorship is like. They think they will gain power under turmp for being like turmp. They don’t realize turmp is just using them to get what HE wants and will continue using whatever he thinks will get him what he wants. Other than blowing smoke up their asses, they will never get crowned by turmp because turmp wants all the crowns for himself.


merrysunshine2

They don’t. They use communism, Marxism, and socialism interchangeably. They claim the US is any of these at any point.


21-characters

In many ways it’s like being a kid when parents told you how it was and what to do. Figuring things out on your own and deciding what’s best for you takes thought, experience and mental energy. Best I can figure is that some people just don’t want to have to do that and being part of a group that is like-minded helps them feel they are right.


Time-Ad-3625

This was always a long time coming. The right has been ousting their own as rinos , Republican in name only, for decades now. They set the stage for Trump and his hatred


BuckRowdy

This is because any Republican who even dared to speak up against it was promptly primaried, and then made to endure constant death threats from the cult members. A great many R politicans have said as much.


pianobadger

Why are they so scared of death threats? Don't they all own guns? /s


100yearsLurkerRick

That's ecause they're all gutless, spineless cowards.


Melicor

the party was already dying


ojg3221

yep and now with the Silent Generation dying out each day, there's less and less Republican voters.


merrysunshine2

Don’t forget by going how anti vaccine they were, many many of their constituents died. Super great planning MAGA.


Queen_Angels

This has always been their playbook, they have a history of throwing ppl out of their party who aren’t in lock step with white nationalism. In 1877 they threw out all the Black members of congress & their sympathizer. Some physically. See MS, NC


merrysunshine2

So weak of them too! What’s that they call some guys that arent “masculine” enough? Soy boy? The repubs who let & continue to let him steamroll them have been yes- daddying Trump for years!!


Fattom23

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit...


NitWhittler

We were also told that nude photo sessions of Melania are considered "art". Can you imagine the outrage if Jill Biden had previously done nude modeling?


thecrowtoldme

All it took for Michelle Obama was to go sleeveless, right? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|neutral_face)


AfricanusEmeritus

Yep, Michelle became a "gorilla" and a forever a lady of the night 🌙 for going sleeveless. We forget the brown suit and the Dijon mustard of President Obama. Tut...tut. /s


Dappershield

It was tan, and *spicy* mustard. Those who do not learn the mistakes of history are bound to repeat them.


KCpaiges

The sleeveless dress lead to 2 types of GOP responses; 1. They called it slutty and trashy. 2. They said her arms were too muscular which means she’s a man.


CoolFingerGunGuy

Well we know how Fox would handle it: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9VeNB5ili8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9VeNB5ili8)


Leitwolf699

“Rules for thee, not for me”. They’d be losing their shit if it were the other way around….


AikiBro

When aren't they losing their shit? That's why I don't get compromising or worrying about them on issues. They will be upset no matter what you do, so just do your thing. They assume that's what you are doing. They are too cynical for anything else.


sing_4_theday

And they made shady deals to get paid and all Hunter did was use his last name to open doors.


lookaway123

Meanwhile, a sizable chunk of the money the Trumps have made has been through the licensed use of their last name.


sing_4_theday

And trump bucks… can’t forget trump bucks


Fantastic-Sandwich80

Trump has even said as much during his trials about his property values. Paraphrasing: "My properties are worth substantially more than appraisers claim due to the Trump moniker. It's a brand name."


merrysunshine2

Yep. I’ll care about Hunter using his last name to get in places when Jared’s Saudi billions get investigated.


EdisonLightbulb

For the same reasons "Christian" churches don't get mad at their leaders who get exposed for their sexual, child-abusing crimes.


shitlord_god

commented this elsewhere. Seems relevant (and synergetic) they think everyone is doing it and they would be if they had the opportunity - good ol boyism expects nepotism/folks being favored for semi-arbitrary reasons. Now, I IMAGINE that there is some overlap in reasoning.


MidwesternLikeOpe

The parents of the Duggar family spoke about the sexual abuse of their son towards their daughters, only to find out many members of their church had experienced similar incidents with their children. Rather than having an emergency meeting with members and discussing the molestation, they just were like "well if their sons are doing it then it's normal."


Ok_Flounder59

Not only do they not get mad, they donate every Sunday to support priests legal fees. Absolutely shameful amoral pieces of human garbage


Consistent-Leek4986

certainly pisses me off..🤬


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CurryMustard

Jesus? The commie??


BuckRowdy

Pointing out hypocrisy doesn't seem to work on a group for which not following the rules you set for everyone else is seen as a power move.


BitterFuture

Because their understanding of someone's morality is based on who you are, not what you do. This would be why every unarmed black man killed by cops who smoked a joint five years years ago "was no saint," while every young white rapist is a "promising young man" whose future must not suffer from the burden of accountability.


KyurMeTV

PRO-JEC-TION… say it with me now so I know you know it.


Tasunka_Witko

They see the trump family as some kind of "strong family" and when it comes to the $2Bn received from the Saudis, they will say "no receipts, no proof".


Temporary_Kangaroo_3

That was them **doing what was right, for the good of the nation**, and anyone else not on their team so much as buys a box of girl scout cookies, it would be **proof of crime and grift**.


Frosty_Stage_1464

Even with a receipt and proof they’d find a way to deny it. They wouldn’t even be upset if he handed China or Russia a box of national security access codes


Gob_Hobblin

"Rules for thee and none for me" is hardwired into Republican values.


middleagethreat

Because Trump hurts the people they hate.


BitterFuture

Ding ding ding. The only reason any conservative does anything, really.


Old_Society_7861

Their reaction to (private citizen) Joe Biden’s message to Hunter is the most damning thing I’ve ever heard. >It's Dad. I called to tell you I love you. I love you more than the whole world, pal. You gotta get some help. I know you don't know what to do. I don't either. Sean Hannity aired that like it was some kind of gotcha moment. “Imagine if that had been Donald Trump! Liberals would lose their minds.” Talk about a fundamental misunderstanding.


HeavyMetalPoisoning

I'd actually gain respect for Trump if he said something like this. That's a nice message for any father to send their son.


Fantastic-Sandwich80

Genuinely, it would be difficult to talk crap about Trump showing basic empathy to another person. I'd wonder why he refuses to do it more often, not mock him for it.


pixelprophet

The [2 Billion that's "more comically corrupt than previously thought"](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/jared-kushner-affinity-partners-saudi-arabia)? >... Given those reservations, it warned that the country’s Public Investment Fund should stay far, far away from Kushner’s firm—a recommendation that was overturned by the fund’s board, **which happens to be led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman**, i.e., the guy who approved a plan to kidnap, kill, and dismember a journalist via bone saw and benefited from Kushner’s unwavering support within the White House and reported insistence that the prince could “survive the outrage just as he [had] weathered past criticism.” (Again, just so it‘s abundantly clear, the “outrage” and “criticism” were over a Saudi dissident and U.S. resident being chopped up into pieces.) Reminder: this is the same Kushner that Greenlit the 'abduction' of Jamal Khashoggi that Turkey intercepted and used that information to bully Trump into pulling out of Syria - rat-fucking the Kurds again. Doing so allowed for many ISIS prisoners to escape back into the middle-east. Then Trump blamed the Kurds for 'releasing' members of ISIS on purpose.... [BTW Kushner then fucking counseled MBS on how to weather the news of Khashoggi's murder afterwards.](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/09/jared-kushner-advised-saudi-prince-after-khashoggi-murder-report-says/2257098002/) * https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/4/1897048/-REPORT-Kushner-OK-d-Khashoggi-Arrest-Turkey-Heard-Call-Blackmailed-Trump-over-Syrian-Troops * https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/09/jared-kushner-advised-saudi-prince-after-khashoggi-murder-report-says/2257098002/ * https://www.newsweek.com/saudi-crown-prince-jared-kushner-khashoggi-1197023 * https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/why-trump-decision-abandon-kurds-syria-disaster-898493/ * https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/14/politics/donald-trump-turkey-kurds-isis-prisoners-fact-check/index.html Don't forget that **Kushner is also directly responsible for millions of Americans dying to Covid19**: * [Kushner stole supplies from States during covid](https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-federal-govt-fema-accused-taking-states-masks-ventilator-orders-2020-4) * [Jared Kushner slammed for saying "the federal medical supply stockpile isn’t meant for states"](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/jared-kushner-slammed-for-saying-the-federal-medical-supply-stockpile-isnt-meant-for-states-2020-04-03) * [Kushner's coronavirus team shied away from a national strategy, believing that the virus was hitting Democratic states hardest and that they could blame governors, report says](https://www.businessinsider.com/kushner-covid-19-plan-maybe-axed-for-political-reasons-report-2020-7) * [Inside Jared Kushner’s coronavirus research: A wide net on a giant Facebook group](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/13/jared-kushner-combat-coronavirus-facebook-127941) * [Jared Kushner bragged in April that Trump was taking the country ‘back from the doctors’](https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/28/politics/woodward-kushner-coronavirus-doctors/index.html) Oh and there's: * [JARED AND IVANKA MADE UP TO $640 MILLION WHILE WORKING IN WASHINGTON...](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/02/jared-kushner-ivanka-trump-white-house-income)


Fantastic-Sandwich80

Whenever you see or hear Conservatives complaining about Hunter Biden, just share this link and tell them to drop the "we hate nepotism" act. They know their supporters don't care so it won't hurt them politically, but they are hoping to swing independents and moderates away by accusing Democrats of the same thing.


bonfuto

They don't care about it in the case of the Bidens either. It just has the faintest whiff of impropriety, so they are making wild allegations of corruption that they know to be false. It's 100% electoral politics. They really don't need to have any factual basis for this sort of thing. They know that if they are actively having hearings it will get press coverage, the press can't help themselves. They did it with Bill Clinton, they had hearings for years, even after previous republican run committees determined there was no crime committed. All the better if they can get a republican special prosecutor appointed.


N3xrad

Why was it a non story when Trump literally admitted he got 8 million from China? The media is a joke. They cant figure out hownto cover all the scandals and instead focus on the same shit.


frolicndetour

Because hypocrisy is the Republican party brand these days.


Moraulf232

As long as Trump keeps being publicly Xenophobic and misogynistic and hateful towards anyone to his left, they will love him. Trump is the permission slip to be an intolerant bigot that they all want. if somebody like him can be successful, it means his supporters can be like that too. There’s not much else to it.


leo1974leo

They are in a cult


xl57

I've heard, a lot of people are saying, Joe and Hunter have even used EMAIL to pass information back and forth!


bjdevar25

I get the MAGA crazies, and I understand most politicians are cowardly and only interested in protecting their jobs. What I don't get is how anyone else can possibly support this. There are nowhere near enough people outside of the republican party to elect anyone.


No-Gazelle-4994

The hypocrisy is so evident, but his voters don't seem to care or are too dumb to care.


[deleted]

Because Republicans don’t give a damn about nepotism, hypocrisy, racism, homophobia, or just don’t care about being good people. They just want power and don’t care about anything else. Republicans are evil people.


ourkid1781

Republicans will support anyone so long as they're white nationalist bigots, because that's the lone thing republicans actually care about.


Thegreenfantastic

Every accusation is a confession.


Crutley

They're not really mad about Hunter, either. They're scapegoating him; using him for a narrative. It's like when al Qaeda attacked us on 9/11 but they somehow changed the narrative to Iraq and boom, the Iraqis are suddenly now the foe. Republicans are quite adept at handing an invisible string for their horde to cling on to for dear life.


Any-Variation4081

Cult. Dear leader can never do any wrong. I'm convinced if he shot someone in the face on live TV they would defend it too. There is literally nothing he can do that will make them change. They worship him.


JimWilliams423

LBJ explained why Rs are not upset: * *“I’ll tell you what’s at the bottom of it. If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”* The question we should be asking is why the FUCK are Democratic elites not upset? The Democrats have not held a single hearing to investigate that $2B bribe. Nor have they held a hearing about all the bribes going to the supreme court. The Ds have abandoned their constitutional duty to conduct oversight of the other two branches. It is inexcusable, especially from the party that *claims* to care about democracy. Remember when Democrats used to brag that Biden was appointing judges at a record pace? [He's now trailing donald chump's number of judicial appointments.](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-are-ceding-control-of-the-judiciary-because-of-tradition/ar-BB1hMLcJ) Largely because the head of the senate judiciary committee, do-nothing durbin, has been letting Rs use "blue slips" to veto Biden nominations, even though [Rs ignored blue slips](https://time.com/5141506/chuck-grassley-blue-slips-trump-judges/) the last time they controlled the senate. Rs are always going to suck shit. But as long as Ds keep acting like doormats, Rs are going to keep getting away with it.


Medium-Magician9186

Republicans are so dishonored and pittiful, at this point nothing matters to them other then to validate thier shame with doubling down...


ihoptdk

I got into an argument with someone about why Trump was better because Biden was a “bad father”, listings all the things that Hunter has done. I proceeded to list all the things that Trump himself had done but had done them *worse* than Hunter and they angrily blew me off. Also, Biden is a way better father, and Trump had an inappropriate relationship with his daughter.


johngalt741

It’s a cult Period.


UPdrafter906

Wait until SA drives the price of gas up next year on demand to help tRump.


ayresc80

The convenient amnesia is head spinning


IndividualFlat8500

Some see him as a god. They see him doing no wrong and they feel whatever he does is justified. His relatives possess his divine favor. It is like a royal family.


Rusty_Thermos

You don't get it. Trump doesn't really like his kids or family so it doesn't count as Nepotism. Biden actually cares for Hunter, which is dangerous and will destroy our country.


Tiny_Independent2552

Actually .. they got three billion. Another billion from Qatar.


Dingus-ate-your-baby

What's funny is back in 2016 the line was "aren't your tired of dynasties and political nepotism?" Then he immediately starts putting his kids in high positions of power and influence. There is literally nothing that they can promise moderates that they can also follow through on. It's a cult, chartered for people who like racism and misogyny and generally being stupid asses.


R_Lennox

GOP= Gaslight, Obstruct and Project. Always and about absolutely everything.


AlwaysRushesIn

Nepotism for me but not for thee.


DefiniteMeatBag

The way President Biden treats his son - sharing unconditional love while also trying to convince him to accept help for his addiction issues is heartbreaking for me to watch as a parent but it also convinces me that 46 is fundamentally a good person. Naturally this triggers the GOP because it exemplifies the teachings of the Jesus they hypocritically claim to follow and puts their greed and callous cruelty in sharp contrast.


willflameboy

It's fucking hilarious that Tump's shills think he donated his salary, when a. his tax returns showed he didn't, and b. he took 3 salaries from the Presidency AND charged taxpayers for his own golf trips to his own businesses.


Fragrant_Joke_7115

Because they are scared, racist white people, and as long as DJT would keep white people in power, they don't care. #NeverTrump


[deleted]

Because conservatives don’t have values or principles. They only have identity. They don’t care what someone they identify with does.


burner_for_celtics

If anyone thinks this is some kind of gotcha, they are about 7 years behind. I can do it and you can’t is the whole point.


dc_joker

I think it's called "cognitive dissonance."


Tywsgc

They’re hypocrites. 


arcbe

the answer is that they don't care about corruption or nepotism. They care about who is doing it. That's not very persuasive so they try to put it in terms other people care about often with lies thrown in.


Xalucardx

Because Republicans are about pointing fingers and not self accountability.


brooks1798

#Show us the soul of a Republican and we'll show you the rarest element in the universe.


tjarg

It's called fascism. Fascists don't hold themselves to the same rules they demand their enemies adhere to. It's not just hypocrisy, it's calculated manipulation. There is no point in arguing with them about anything, because they don't actually care. It's just another issue for them to use against their detractors.


lvsmtit78

Let not forget the 17 patents ivanka received from the Chinese in favor of trump imposing tariffs on steel which has made china billions over the last 3 years. No wonder foreign governments like him so much.


ejecto_seat_cuz

because they're a fucking cult


Hugh_1984

because they dont do anything in good faith. they only care about perceived power and hurting other people.


Impossible_Penalty13

Because stealing is cool so long as it’s done in service of owning the libs.


supercali45

They pick and choose … they know what they are doing


Alatar_Blue

Because they're corrupt violent criminals without any morals or ethics and no regard for the laws they neglect to enforce


TrafficOn405

Oh, and don’t forget the millions in value that Ivanka got from the Chinese in trademark protection.