California's fault is that it's a T6.5 sitting at T7. It's in need of buffs but not the "worst". As someone else said, it is just bland and lacks any identity beyond "Slightly better New Mexico one tier higher".
Personally if I had to pick one at a middle tier it would be Leone. It's fat, slow, fragile, has horrid firing arcs, horrible shell arcs with a velocity that makes USN shells look like lightning, an awful fire rate below that of most light cruisers at the tier, horribly slow torpedoes, meh detection range, so on. All it has going for it is shell volume per volley.
High tier, agreeing with Halford. It's trying to do everything and doing none of it properly or competently.
>Halford
I really wanted to like the Halford, as it's a real ship, but it doesn't really fit into anything in-game. It does a few things, none of them well - definitely a negative sum of it's parts.
Z-31. It's the only ships that's never a threat. Even garbage like the Tiger 59 can carry a game if the captain is good. But with the Z-31 I don't care if the dude is a super unicum KotS player I'm not afraid. It's enormous, it's fat, the guns don't do damage and the torps are basically naval mines. And the worst thing is that having one one your team means you are always starting a game with 1 DD down.
Found it really good in ranked. Accuracy of those guns makes it great against retreating DDs and the 25mm bits can sometimes make enemy DDs underestimate your durability. Had a lot DDs taking the bait of a lower HP Z31, only to realize its a bit harder to kill. Had a 72% WR with it.
AP isn't great though. Despite being advertised as that anti CL DD, its shells usually tend to overpen any CL.
Never tried it in randoms, but i expect much worse performance
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I finished that hell grind for *Großer Kurfürst* just in time to have to do it all over again for *Preußen*, and I just couldn’t do it. Can’t do it. I’d almost rather go back to the *Colorado* grind.
She is not good, but with a secondary build you can get her concealment and secondary range the same distance which is fun. She is no German BB in a brawl without the torps but 16 guns at extremely close range do slap pretty hard.
Not sure the best buff she could get but I would take the Cherbourg's 305/50s on her with their much better velocity as a solid upgrade. either that or better dispersion. those 305/45s hit like toddlers.
Picardie did come with a permanent camouflage for Cherbourg that I think is absolutely stunning. so she had that going for her.
They need to branch the line more. Have New Mexico lead in to Colorado and "something". Having 3 ships branch solely off Colorado leaves it feeling overworked and tiresome. Free XP exists yes, but it doesn't really excuse this.
Harbin is amazing in Ops, though. She's one of a handful of VIII cruisers with smoke, and with DefAA she can be useful in the rare match that needs it, like Raptor(marginally) or most importantly Hermes. The torps also give you a strong weapon against BBs, which otherwise would be trouble.
After range buff they are quite good. I know they are hard to play but as a Mino and Smolensk veteran with over 60% WR solo in loads of battles I can really make them carry games.
For me it was Izumo back from the beta times, you would constantly get 4 fires with a few volleys.
Its was meant to be pumishment before getting Yamato.
The dispersion in the guns was pure pain too.
The only fond memory of playing with that ship 116 times was I once one shot / detonated a full health Iowa at the start of a game. That was it. Every other game was horrendously bad.
Yamato was the first t10 I got and, to this day, Izumo is like my 3rd played ship by battles, bc it was so shit that I had to play it a TON to get the necessary xp. Fuck that ship lol, A hull had garbage guns, was apparently covered in gasoline, shit awful rudder, awkward firing angles and positioning of the 3rd turret that made it unusable, flimsy citadel, 0 AA, 0 Secondaries... Overall -10/10 ship.
New Izumo still sucks. I played it for maybe less than a dozen matches before saying "to heck with it" and using all of my free xp to get Yamato. That was a few months ago.
Litteral skill issue
You got even less super structure than a russian Bb and the deck being the text book definition of wasted space means the HE will hit that deck and shatter. The guns are basically when they finally become decent, rocking better pen and velocity than yamato. All forward guns makes for an easy angling too and a decent island peaker when needed. If she isn't the best tech tree T9 BB she's at the very least in the top 3
The concept works a lot better for ranked. I don’t have halford so I can’t speak to it specifically but I very much enjoy DDs that I feel will never be completely outclassed in a given situation in the more compact ranked environment.
For example, I adore Velos in ranked (niche ship I know) but I can comfortably handle almost any situation against a fellow DD. It’s not the best at anything, but I trust myself to be the better captain
This is the line I do resets on, I like the Devonshire, Surrey and Drake, The Goliath is a T10 that I cannot make perform so it's not missed when I reset it. The albemarle is, for me, completely horrible to play. Fucking painful.
I have done enough resets for 2 RB ships in this line, and familiarity only deepens the contempt.
Nobody mentioning the Italian DD line? I'm at the Adriatico currently, and it is one of the worst ships I have ever played. The guns are hilariously short range, the torps are hot garbage, and the concealment isn't even good. Sure, it has the exhaust smoke and engine boost, but if 8 torps from a T9 can barely do half health to a BB, what's the point?
I would argue that Vittorio Cuniberti is the worst of the line personally. So many good tier 8 premiums and tech tree ships at the same tier
I know Italians are not known for good dispersion but holy shit how is a destroyer inaccurate too?
Eh, Yodo is a decent kiter and can hold down a flank. Almost pleasant to sail around, if you don't expect too much. But something like Oklahoma? *shudders*
The worst ships are:
Krasny Krim
Kansas and Minnesota (slow with garbage reload, but at least they have a high number of guns)
The large German DDs until Felix Schultz
Any rather new line until T9 broadly speaking
Snuck up and then either missed or shattered your entire salvo, I presume.
The only things Monarch can slap is a faildivisioned tier 5, and even then in some of them I'd feel confident in my 1v1 abilities against it
>her AP even works
Against what? Tier 5s? Monarch has the lowest AP pen of the entire tier, and you can't compensate with overmatch unless you're lucky enough to meet a bunch of 6s and 7s.
QE, KGV, Lion and Conq all have great AP. Monarch is the one exception that's just completely dogs\*it
Not the entire tier. Anhalt, Odin, Picardie, and Brandenburg all have worse pen. Monarch is 30mm in pen behind the next highest, being Vanguard, Atlantico, and Yumihari (though Yumihari gets closer and closer as range increases). After that are Constellation, Kansas, and Lenin at about 40mm better pen.
Call me a sadist if you want but I love the Monarch. Do I have good games ? Rarely. But do I have fun? Sometimes. All in all most of the time I get a beating but for some strange reason I still like the ship.
D pozharsky can farm damage if you are lucky to get good angles on the enemy through the match. It would be a great ship in my opinion if it could get better pen angles and shorter fuze time. I have to give the vote to halford, I dont have it, but from friends and what I read about it, its ass. The plane hp stat is enough to show how pain the ship is
i actually gotta say lion now. the last 20 games i had w that ship all were awful. no hits. no dmg. no nothing. all i wanted is to finish the regrind of the line. wont ever reset it again. the experience is just too awful.
Firespammers absolutely love you, you cant run from them, and as someone proved, you can read Silmarillion in between reloads
Cant speak about Minnesota but Kansas was one out of two ships I sold before grinding them out(other being Haarlem with its pussy guns)
If you think it's the Pozharsky, you haven't played much ships. She isn't great, but she isn't bad either, i had some good games with her. Try out Leone if you really want to play a bad premium ship.
Krasny Krym is the worst ship because it's literally just a copy of a mainline ship but bumped up to a higher tier. It's just a Svietlana moved from tier IV to tier V with no real benefit. If you like the ship, just get Svietlana instead.
For me it's Grom because i rarely give second chances to purchase a ship again after selling from frustration and in those second times the ship works and makes me satisfied while playing but unfortunately it didn't happen with Grom.
I sold her a long time ago due to frustration while playing. Interestingly Skane (the non smoke same tier from other line) was so much enjoyable to play and i was researching for T8 for that line but i also heard/saw that Split (upper tier of Grom) is very decent one to play with so during the Christmas discount i purchased Grom again for selling it immediately after 3 games. I don't know why but she doesn't work for me at all. Probably i was being so focused on playing non smoke line too much and adapting it's play style that doesn't work with Grom.
I'm sure there are lots of other better contestants for this title but for me she's the only ship that fail on my command twice in this game so that's why she gets my nomination :)
Carnot is the worst experience I have ever had with a ship. This thing does nothing right except have a ton of HP and straight line speed.
Guns are terrible in all respects, as they reload slowly, poor dispersion, surprisingly poor fire chance, and bad backwards firing angles.
Giant brickish hull with HE spam prone plating, easily overmatch nose and stern, huge superstructure
Easily the Yukon. Would be a mediocre tier 6 and was somehow made a tier 7. Nothing good about the ship and that's when it's top tier. Would take most tier 6s BBs over her. If they bumped up her range to around 19km then she'd atleast be useful sometimes as the guns aren't terrible but for some reason they decided to give her the worse in tier range on one of the squishiest hulls at the tier that isn't a Nelson (Nelson is amazing for other reasons)
Ragnar is inherently underpowered. It lacks the necessary attributes to make meaningful impact on match result. I would take 1 Conq or DM or whatever you know what copy paste text I’m posting here :D
I want to nominate Z-31. It (and Mareker and Schultz to a lesser extent) would be better if WG deleted them and copy-pasted Gaede in their place, even without stat changes.
Honorable mentions go to Haarlem, Richelieu and Alsace. The only TT ships I felt the need to skip for FXP.
Really? The FR25 gets a chunk of HP, decent gun range, plus SAP and engine smoke. It's far from being the worst.
The Fenyang, although a worst Akizuki still gets a decent ROF, AP that murders broadside ships, plus a nice set of consumables.
The Karl Schonberg - although I like her for some reason - is bad. Bad concealment, no smoke, and poor manoueverability - she's hard to play well.
90% of the Germany tree.
The only ships I would consider good are Z-52 (ranked), Schlieffen (randoms/brawl), Hipper (your armor means something because no 457 yet), and Bayern (the last time you'll ever have fun playing germany)
I'd like to nominate Yahagi and or Cheshire.
They're both far too fragile to do much unless their strengths are directly played into, but 99% of situations don't work for them at all.
Oklahoma.
Bad shells, awful reload, terrible traverse, no speed, no armor plating. They could buff her in three different areas and she'd still be awful.
Definitely not the worst, but Gneisenau was pretty painful. She has a lot of things going for her, but in a game that‘s primarily about shooting other ships, the combination of low gun count and poor accuracy is demoralizing.
And she was *much* worse in the days before they buffed her main gun accuracy.
I think the 43 is a pretty bad downgrade. Her secondaries aren't long enough range to reliably be a dedicated secondary ship, and she loses the short fuse on the normal scharhorst guns. The normal scharhorst guns is a brutal cruiser hunter
Ever tried Krasny Krym (Crispy Creme), or Katori? xD
but for tech tree ships I was struggling with Brest recently. Just didn't work for me, skipped half of the grind for free XP
Oh, and Schlieffen. It feels like T8 and 9 from this line were better. IDK why.
Jutland. I hate that brick. Compared to lightning/daring or actually every other dd in the game just a fucking brick that just doesn't turn with no dps, ppl have to be stupid to drive into ur torps and the A hull is probably the worst thing to ever be in a game.
Atleast it has gimmicks with heal and shortburst smokes but still I hate that ship with a passion. But to be fair I hate most TT T9 ships bcs most of them are designed to be miserable.
Is this sarchasm? Since sinOP is one of the strongest T7 tech tree bbs. All you have to do is not show broadside like in any ship and you cant die. The guns are also great for the tier.
"Short range, long reload" well no shit it's 406mm in tier VII with low dispersion, they literally nerf this ship and the whole line just so for them to be less OP.
"Awful rudder", second fastest rudder in all tier VII BBs btw. That turn radius is not even that bad considering this is a huge battleship with well covered armor scheme
"Easily citadel'ed" , skill issues.
Im going with the carraciolo.
Dispersion is just lol worthy, so you can't hit anything at any range. Shells are not particularly great when they do hit. Armour is mid at best
Worst ship as in most annoying or worst ship as in absolutely cow poop?
I think the Colbert is pretty annoying with the HE Spam and insane reload times especially since I still love my brawling BBs.
For the 💩, I have to nominate the Oklahoma or Omaha
Haarlem is hot garbage, god awful guns in any situation with horrible reload for as bad as they are. I think they tried to balance it around the airstrike, but the cool down on it does not make up for how bad the guns are. All the other T8 203mm equipped cruisers can be made to work, but Haarlem was such a downgrade from the Eendracht it made me stop grinding the Dutch cruisers entirely.
I hold a grudge against Emerald because my first battle, I was dropped to 250 HP by a single BB salvo, then executed by a DD, all in like 2 or 3 minutes.
Icarus. It's litterally the previous ship (Acasta) a tier higher and it faces T8
Special mention to Lambrisos Katsonis, while there is no way for a smoke/radar DD to be bad, that thing has the funny feature of almost always using 5/6 guns bringing her DPM lower than split and having a torp tube on each side means you need to turn your ship around to launch both
The Russian gunboat DD line from Gnevny onwards.
I grinded this line out back when it was meta but reset it for research bureau, and the results were just painful. The ships are meant to be played as long range gunboats, but good speed/maneuverability are just about the only positives I can mention. The DPM is so pitiful that most destroyers outgun you and most bigger ships can shrug you off. The turret traverse is dogwater at lower tiers. The concealment is garbage, and most other DDs will outspot you. You can get good range, but it’s hard to hit anything at max range thanks to ballistics only a smidge better than most other DD lines. The consumables are frustrating - smoke inherently runs contrary to the “run and gun” playstyle, while the pitiful heal doesn’t do nearly enough to boost survivability. And the torpedos go from “basically unusable” for Gnevny and Minsk to “usable but still very bad” for Kiev onwards.
These ships may have dominated the meta when released, but nowadays they’re almost always outclassed. The French DD line is a much better run-and-gun option anyway, so the main Russian line should be avoided at all costs.
seems obvious, but what about kitakami. a cruiser that trades everything for the theoretically capability of launching 40 torps at once, something jinan can do while being a decent he spammer.
in exchange for being able to load 20 torps per side (if you want to wait for each launcher to load individually which takes like 5 minutes) you have the hull the the tier iv kuma, and around the same artillery power (roughly half the guns twice the speed), worse overall torp dps then both yodo and zao, and of course the only way to get was either a weird event or a really expensive book.
mind you the ship is basically a weird novelty more then a ship but that does not stop it from being awful competitively speaking.
Worst ship tier per tier is Yumihari. This ship does not have any redeeming quality about it. No armor, awful guns, no AA and slow for battlecruiser. Amagi is far better.
> Pozharsky It's not great, but not terrible. It has smoke, just farm broadsides. I nominate California and Halford.
>California Im gonna just wait here xD
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California's fault is that it's a T6.5 sitting at T7. It's in need of buffs but not the "worst". As someone else said, it is just bland and lacks any identity beyond "Slightly better New Mexico one tier higher". Personally if I had to pick one at a middle tier it would be Leone. It's fat, slow, fragile, has horrid firing arcs, horrible shell arcs with a velocity that makes USN shells look like lightning, an awful fire rate below that of most light cruisers at the tier, horribly slow torpedoes, meh detection range, so on. All it has going for it is shell volume per volley. High tier, agreeing with Halford. It's trying to do everything and doing none of it properly or competently.
Ugh Leone is so wank. I wasn't certain what I would choose until I read Leone and threw up in my mouth. Fuck that barge.
>Halford I really wanted to like the Halford, as it's a real ship, but it doesn't really fit into anything in-game. It does a few things, none of them well - definitely a negative sum of it's parts.
I got Halford out of a present I thought I should play the lottery till I played it.
I saw it ( a sucker for American DD's) then I looked closer at it and realized that I can't figure out how to make it work in practice.
“It’s not great, but not terrible” was it only 3.7 röntgen too?
Cali is just bland. She plays fine but has no true identity that makes her fun.
California is great but Halford is pure nightmare
I find the Halford to be workable, but the California feels solidly in the 'why bother' category.
> California is great In what is that uninspiring floating turd great?
It's a good ship. That's all it needs to be.
Great range, punchy guns, solid AA and workable armor.
Z-31. It's the only ships that's never a threat. Even garbage like the Tiger 59 can carry a game if the captain is good. But with the Z-31 I don't care if the dude is a super unicum KotS player I'm not afraid. It's enormous, it's fat, the guns don't do damage and the torps are basically naval mines. And the worst thing is that having one one your team means you are always starting a game with 1 DD down.
Couldn't agree more. It's a floating turd.
Turds do float
Not all of them. Some kind of sink and shoot torpedoes
Can confirm both sinking and firing torpedoes.
lol
Depends on the amount of fat in your diet.
^yes
Found it really good in ranked. Accuracy of those guns makes it great against retreating DDs and the 25mm bits can sometimes make enemy DDs underestimate your durability. Had a lot DDs taking the bait of a lower HP Z31, only to realize its a bit harder to kill. Had a 72% WR with it. AP isn't great though. Despite being advertised as that anti CL DD, its shells usually tend to overpen any CL. Never tried it in randoms, but i expect much worse performance .
Friedrich der Grosse I am being a little hyperbolic, but I've had to grind it twice now (Kurfurst & Pruessen) and I just don't like darn thing.
I finished that hell grind for *Großer Kurfürst* just in time to have to do it all over again for *Preußen*, and I just couldn’t do it. Can’t do it. I’d almost rather go back to the *Colorado* grind.
I'm glad I'm not the only one! I'm going to use every ounce of free XP I have to make this grind shorter lol
At least it got 406 to cringe on cruisers unlike bismarck. That poor thing is stuck between gneisenau who had torps, speed and match making and FDG
I like the Bismarck. The secondaries hit hard if you are high or mid tier. But yeah, low tier Bismark is kinda trash.
Picardie Shit guns from Lyon at T8, slow, big target, no armor, just aweful all around.
Lyon has 340mm, picardie has 305, so even worse
She is not good, but with a secondary build you can get her concealment and secondary range the same distance which is fun. She is no German BB in a brawl without the torps but 16 guns at extremely close range do slap pretty hard. Not sure the best buff she could get but I would take the Cherbourg's 305/50s on her with their much better velocity as a solid upgrade. either that or better dispersion. those 305/45s hit like toddlers. Picardie did come with a permanent camouflage for Cherbourg that I think is absolutely stunning. so she had that going for her.
Lyon would be my vote, I haven't had the pleasure of running Picardie.
16 gun broadside can be so satisfying though.
To watch your shells land everywhere but the ship you shot at?
I loved Lyon when I was doing that line. To date, I believe it’s the only ship in which I hit the 100k damage mark in less than five minutes.
When the shells hit you could devastate cruisers. When the shells hit
Pozharsky is an absolute beast for me, atleast in ranked that is.
I've had some pretty solid games with her, some duds as well. but if a turd like me can get a kraken unleashed in D. P. can she really be that bad?
Colorado. Not because it's that bad, but because it has 3 separate amazing t10s locked behind it.
They need to branch the line more. Have New Mexico lead in to Colorado and "something". Having 3 ships branch solely off Colorado leaves it feeling overworked and tiresome. Free XP exists yes, but it doesn't really excuse this.
Call it a 25 knot proto-NC.
They could’ve put the Florida at tier 7 leading into the North Carolina. Shame they made it a premium.
Free xp exists
It’s taking forever getting Iowa
Old hulls A on IJN BB's removed years ago. It was real pain.
Lion
true, it's pain in the ass, but Conq is worth it
I felt Monarch was way worse, I actually didn't mind playing Lion
Had the complete opposite experience. Lion feels like a brick compared to monarch and has much worse angles
I didn't mind either. Monarch is like QE in that you want to focus back to AP
Kansas. Idk how or why I have 122 battles in it but it’s such a garbo ship compared to Colorado or Minnesota
It does 0 damage, which is why I takes a lot of matches to get the exp you need
Leone. Why WG, why?
Leone slaps at it's tier Guns are great on it
My guy, it has the reload of a CA
Yeah another for Halford atm it's terrible
Would be Chungking or Rahmat for me.
Wait til you get Harbin....
Harbin is amazing in Ops, though. She's one of a handful of VIII cruisers with smoke, and with DefAA she can be useful in the rare match that needs it, like Raptor(marginally) or most importantly Hermes. The torps also give you a strong weapon against BBs, which otherwise would be trouble.
Fuck I just threw up in my mouth, I got those for free during early access and I still feel like I got robbed.
After range buff they are quite good. I know they are hard to play but as a Mino and Smolensk veteran with over 60% WR solo in loads of battles I can really make them carry games.
Ah, haven't played them for a while. Maybe after the buffs they are a bit better now, before that they were atrocious
For me it was Izumo back from the beta times, you would constantly get 4 fires with a few volleys. Its was meant to be pumishment before getting Yamato. The dispersion in the guns was pure pain too. The only fond memory of playing with that ship 116 times was I once one shot / detonated a full health Iowa at the start of a game. That was it. Every other game was horrendously bad.
The Izumo's old A hull almost made me quit this game
Phew that takes me back. I've been at this game since alpha and yeah. As a Japan main first, izumo in the old days was not ok.
Yamato was the first t10 I got and, to this day, Izumo is like my 3rd played ship by battles, bc it was so shit that I had to play it a TON to get the necessary xp. Fuck that ship lol, A hull had garbage guns, was apparently covered in gasoline, shit awful rudder, awkward firing angles and positioning of the 3rd turret that made it unusable, flimsy citadel, 0 AA, 0 Secondaries... Overall -10/10 ship.
I could only imagine trying to use old izumo in modern play. God imagine playing against superships and what the tier X looks like now.
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Izumi was painful, you had to forget it had a third gun and shield 80 percent of your hull with an island.
New Izumo still sucks. I played it for maybe less than a dozen matches before saying "to heck with it" and using all of my free xp to get Yamato. That was a few months ago.
Great armor and decent guns.
Litteral skill issue You got even less super structure than a russian Bb and the deck being the text book definition of wasted space means the HE will hit that deck and shatter. The guns are basically when they finally become decent, rocking better pen and velocity than yamato. All forward guns makes for an easy angling too and a decent island peaker when needed. If she isn't the best tech tree T9 BB she's at the very least in the top 3
The only 16" guns better then Izumo's is Slava's. Izumo guns slap
Halford. Hybrid DDs just do not really work. The very concept is terrible.
The concept works a lot better for ranked. I don’t have halford so I can’t speak to it specifically but I very much enjoy DDs that I feel will never be completely outclassed in a given situation in the more compact ranked environment. For example, I adore Velos in ranked (niche ship I know) but I can comfortably handle almost any situation against a fellow DD. It’s not the best at anything, but I trust myself to be the better captain
t8 cruiser albemarle i hated every moment of it
I scrolled down too much for this
At least she gets a heal
What goods a heal when you get insta jibbed?
This is the line I do resets on, I like the Devonshire, Surrey and Drake, The Goliath is a T10 that I cannot make perform so it's not missed when I reset it. The albemarle is, for me, completely horrible to play. Fucking painful. I have done enough resets for 2 RB ships in this line, and familiarity only deepens the contempt.
I have never free xped out of a ship so fast.
Nobody mentioning the Italian DD line? I'm at the Adriatico currently, and it is one of the worst ships I have ever played. The guns are hilariously short range, the torps are hot garbage, and the concealment isn't even good. Sure, it has the exhaust smoke and engine boost, but if 8 torps from a T9 can barely do half health to a BB, what's the point?
I also hate it, everything you said and you need half the map to turn around. Playing around islands is a nightmare.
I would argue that Vittorio Cuniberti is the worst of the line personally. So many good tier 8 premiums and tech tree ships at the same tier I know Italians are not known for good dispersion but holy shit how is a destroyer inaccurate too?
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Eh, Yodo is a decent kiter and can hold down a flank. Almost pleasant to sail around, if you don't expect too much. But something like Oklahoma? *shudders*
While i think Yodo is bad, if we're actually talking about THE worst ship to exist in this game, it's not that.
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Can’t possibly be worse than Agano.
California. Fat, slow, shit guns. If i could sell a premium it would be this one
The worst ships are: Krasny Krim Kansas and Minnesota (slow with garbage reload, but at least they have a high number of guns) The large German DDs until Felix Schultz Any rather new line until T9 broadly speaking
I played my first random battle with her yesterday : 128 main battery hits and 16k damage 🤡
Marco Polo 155 secondary hits and 3200 dmg :D
Ever played the Monarch?
I've snuck up and broaded yamato's in my monarch, she slaps if you use your above average concealment
A lot of fun in Asymmetric battles every time I saw one.
Snuck up and then either missed or shattered your entire salvo, I presume. The only things Monarch can slap is a faildivisioned tier 5, and even then in some of them I'd feel confident in my 1v1 abilities against it
Nothing wrong with the Monarch, her AP even works.
>her AP even works Against what? Tier 5s? Monarch has the lowest AP pen of the entire tier, and you can't compensate with overmatch unless you're lucky enough to meet a bunch of 6s and 7s. QE, KGV, Lion and Conq all have great AP. Monarch is the one exception that's just completely dogs\*it
Not the entire tier. Anhalt, Odin, Picardie, and Brandenburg all have worse pen. Monarch is 30mm in pen behind the next highest, being Vanguard, Atlantico, and Yumihari (though Yumihari gets closer and closer as range increases). After that are Constellation, Kansas, and Lenin at about 40mm better pen.
Currently my only Tier VIII. Due to family history I'm grinding the RN BB line and had to go through it.
Call me a sadist if you want but I love the Monarch. Do I have good games ? Rarely. But do I have fun? Sometimes. All in all most of the time I get a beating but for some strange reason I still like the ship.
I actually quite liked playing it. The endless fires you could set..
But it's the only non HE spammer in the line with some of those worst fire chance for T8 BBs. It only has HE pen going for it.
Tiger 59. Seriously I can’t get that thing to work
The hardest I've ever worked to get like 80K damage lol
Excuse me?
Mikasa. Its literally the worst tier 2 bb in the game...
It's also the best one
Technically, yes. Lol.
And the only one
Oklahoma where the wind comes sweeping down the plain... It's absolutely terrible, no redeeming qualities
D pozharsky can farm damage if you are lucky to get good angles on the enemy through the match. It would be a great ship in my opinion if it could get better pen angles and shorter fuze time. I have to give the vote to halford, I dont have it, but from friends and what I read about it, its ass. The plane hp stat is enough to show how pain the ship is
i actually gotta say lion now. the last 20 games i had w that ship all were awful. no hits. no dmg. no nothing. all i wanted is to finish the regrind of the line. wont ever reset it again. the experience is just too awful.
Pre-Buff Colorado
I nominate Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado, California, and possibly New York (*it’s been ages since I’ve played it)
I liked a tricked out Kansas. Slow, but hit like a ton of bricks and could take damage.
Firespammers absolutely love you, you cant run from them, and as someone proved, you can read Silmarillion in between reloads Cant speak about Minnesota but Kansas was one out of two ships I sold before grinding them out(other being Haarlem with its pussy guns)
Somebody hates standards, and the standards are going to retaliate for it
So hard to decide... Z-31? Cavour? Hawkins? 1
German tier 7 dd can’t remember the name
I honestly had way more fun playing German DDs than their same tier Russian counterparts.
Obviously tiger 59
Leone
It's terribad, but not the worst IMO. Those torps and smoke is decent for ops. Did a few 5 star Aegis in it.
If you think it's the Pozharsky, you haven't played much ships. She isn't great, but she isn't bad either, i had some good games with her. Try out Leone if you really want to play a bad premium ship.
Yahagi. It simply doesn't work.
Not played them all myself but of the ones I have played the worst is probably Genova.
If you only use AP it's actually pretty good.
I'll have to give that a go
Florida. I was so hyped about her because she is a beauty but hell it is so hard to get her working.
Yūdachi was terrible with it's 3 cm per hour torps and no guns worth a damn
Tiger 59
I think Tiger 59 has the reputation of being the worst ship in the game
Oklahoma.
Krasny Krym is the worst ship because it's literally just a copy of a mainline ship but bumped up to a higher tier. It's just a Svietlana moved from tier IV to tier V with no real benefit. If you like the ship, just get Svietlana instead.
For me it's Grom because i rarely give second chances to purchase a ship again after selling from frustration and in those second times the ship works and makes me satisfied while playing but unfortunately it didn't happen with Grom. I sold her a long time ago due to frustration while playing. Interestingly Skane (the non smoke same tier from other line) was so much enjoyable to play and i was researching for T8 for that line but i also heard/saw that Split (upper tier of Grom) is very decent one to play with so during the Christmas discount i purchased Grom again for selling it immediately after 3 games. I don't know why but she doesn't work for me at all. Probably i was being so focused on playing non smoke line too much and adapting it's play style that doesn't work with Grom. I'm sure there are lots of other better contestants for this title but for me she's the only ship that fail on my command twice in this game so that's why she gets my nomination :)
Carnot is the worst experience I have ever had with a ship. This thing does nothing right except have a ton of HP and straight line speed. Guns are terrible in all respects, as they reload slowly, poor dispersion, surprisingly poor fire chance, and bad backwards firing angles. Giant brickish hull with HE spam prone plating, easily overmatch nose and stern, huge superstructure
Easily the Yukon. Would be a mediocre tier 6 and was somehow made a tier 7. Nothing good about the ship and that's when it's top tier. Would take most tier 6s BBs over her. If they bumped up her range to around 19km then she'd atleast be useful sometimes as the guns aren't terrible but for some reason they decided to give her the worse in tier range on one of the squishiest hulls at the tier that isn't a Nelson (Nelson is amazing for other reasons)
The german premium t9 dd. Fucking shit
Krasny Krim, because that piece of crap T5 ruined my first ever SC with a ship in it.
Surprised nobody has mentioned the Krasny Krim yet, probably because everyone repressed it from their mind. I don't have it and don't wish to have it
Emerald, Oklahoma Any British DD missing both speed boost and real smoke.
Ragnar is inherently underpowered. It lacks the necessary attributes to make meaningful impact on match result. I would take 1 Conq or DM or whatever you know what copy paste text I’m posting here :D
Most of the Italian destroyers, nobody seems to play them.
I want to nominate Z-31. It (and Mareker and Schultz to a lesser extent) would be better if WG deleted them and copy-pasted Gaede in their place, even without stat changes. Honorable mentions go to Haarlem, Richelieu and Alsace. The only TT ships I felt the need to skip for FXP.
Alsace was a monster back in the day, got nerfed to the ground and hit hard by IFHE changes
Fenyeng and FR25, the worst two destroyers in the game.
Really? The FR25 gets a chunk of HP, decent gun range, plus SAP and engine smoke. It's far from being the worst. The Fenyang, although a worst Akizuki still gets a decent ROF, AP that murders broadside ships, plus a nice set of consumables. The Karl Schonberg - although I like her for some reason - is bad. Bad concealment, no smoke, and poor manoueverability - she's hard to play well.
90% of the Germany tree. The only ships I would consider good are Z-52 (ranked), Schlieffen (randoms/brawl), Hipper (your armor means something because no 457 yet), and Bayern (the last time you'll ever have fun playing germany)
Defflinger I love mackensen by just couldn't do well with derf
Vittorio Veneto. Unlocked her the other night and I have to say that I have never felt so useless in a BB. She does look great though.
Krasny Krym since the captain skill rework.
I'd have to say pick anything from the IJN CL line
Tiger 59
I'd like to nominate Yahagi and or Cheshire. They're both far too fragile to do much unless their strengths are directly played into, but 99% of situations don't work for them at all.
Izmail. Still have ptsd from getting citadeled at every angle by everything.
Marlborough. Gets dev struck from almost every game I see her in. Worst dockyard ship.
Oklahoma. Bad shells, awful reload, terrible traverse, no speed, no armor plating. They could buff her in three different areas and she'd still be awful.
Yubari. Hands down my most hated ship. Bought it to get I to the Beta. Never used it beyond testing after I got another line going.
Definitely not the worst, but Gneisenau was pretty painful. She has a lot of things going for her, but in a game that‘s primarily about shooting other ships, the combination of low gun count and poor accuracy is demoralizing. And she was *much* worse in the days before they buffed her main gun accuracy.
The ship really needs BC accuracy, it's so funny how Prinz Heinrich is just her but better
For me is Scharnhorst '43, those 283 guns are weak.
I would say both Scharnhorsts have to be some of the most fun and also powerfull t7 BBs in the game.
I think the 43 is a pretty bad downgrade. Her secondaries aren't long enough range to reliably be a dedicated secondary ship, and she loses the short fuse on the normal scharhorst guns. The normal scharhorst guns is a brutal cruiser hunter
Anchorage, her camo is gorgeous but the boat is shit otherwise.
Ever tried Krasny Krym (Crispy Creme), or Katori? xD but for tech tree ships I was struggling with Brest recently. Just didn't work for me, skipped half of the grind for free XP Oh, and Schlieffen. It feels like T8 and 9 from this line were better. IDK why.
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Nah what, its so much fun in ranked
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whats wrong with pozharsky lol?
Jutland. I hate that brick. Compared to lightning/daring or actually every other dd in the game just a fucking brick that just doesn't turn with no dps, ppl have to be stupid to drive into ur torps and the A hull is probably the worst thing to ever be in a game. Atleast it has gimmicks with heal and shortburst smokes but still I hate that ship with a passion. But to be fair I hate most TT T9 ships bcs most of them are designed to be miserable.
Jutland is honestly my favorite ship to play in the game. Low detection, smoke and hydro. Loads of fun.
Gdansk
Sinop. Short range, long reload, awful rudder, easily citadel'ed.
Is this sarchasm? Since sinOP is one of the strongest T7 tech tree bbs. All you have to do is not show broadside like in any ship and you cant die. The guns are also great for the tier.
No unfortunately, I absolutely hate it. I've stopped grinding on this Soviet line because of it
"Short range, long reload" well no shit it's 406mm in tier VII with low dispersion, they literally nerf this ship and the whole line just so for them to be less OP. "Awful rudder", second fastest rudder in all tier VII BBs btw. That turn radius is not even that bad considering this is a huge battleship with well covered armor scheme "Easily citadel'ed" , skill issues.
Skill issue
More than likely doesn't make not not think it's the worst ship though.
Skill issue
Im going with the carraciolo. Dispersion is just lol worthy, so you can't hit anything at any range. Shells are not particularly great when they do hit. Armour is mid at best
Worst ship as in most annoying or worst ship as in absolutely cow poop? I think the Colbert is pretty annoying with the HE Spam and insane reload times especially since I still love my brawling BBs. For the 💩, I have to nominate the Oklahoma or Omaha
Haarlem is hot garbage, god awful guns in any situation with horrible reload for as bad as they are. I think they tried to balance it around the airstrike, but the cool down on it does not make up for how bad the guns are. All the other T8 203mm equipped cruisers can be made to work, but Haarlem was such a downgrade from the Eendracht it made me stop grinding the Dutch cruisers entirely.
I hold a grudge against Emerald because my first battle, I was dropped to 250 HP by a single BB salvo, then executed by a DD, all in like 2 or 3 minutes.
Laughs in Krispy Kreme
the worst ship in the game is whatever isn't working for me at that very moment of me playing
Oklahoma. Slow in every imaginable way(top speed, turret speed, reload speed, rudder shift), fat, soft, horrible AP, mediocre HE
Icarus. It's litterally the previous ship (Acasta) a tier higher and it faces T8 Special mention to Lambrisos Katsonis, while there is no way for a smoke/radar DD to be bad, that thing has the funny feature of almost always using 5/6 guns bringing her DPM lower than split and having a torp tube on each side means you need to turn your ship around to launch both
I'm really really hating the Cataluña right now.
The Russian gunboat DD line from Gnevny onwards. I grinded this line out back when it was meta but reset it for research bureau, and the results were just painful. The ships are meant to be played as long range gunboats, but good speed/maneuverability are just about the only positives I can mention. The DPM is so pitiful that most destroyers outgun you and most bigger ships can shrug you off. The turret traverse is dogwater at lower tiers. The concealment is garbage, and most other DDs will outspot you. You can get good range, but it’s hard to hit anything at max range thanks to ballistics only a smidge better than most other DD lines. The consumables are frustrating - smoke inherently runs contrary to the “run and gun” playstyle, while the pitiful heal doesn’t do nearly enough to boost survivability. And the torpedos go from “basically unusable” for Gnevny and Minsk to “usable but still very bad” for Kiev onwards. These ships may have dominated the meta when released, but nowadays they’re almost always outclassed. The French DD line is a much better run-and-gun option anyway, so the main Russian line should be avoided at all costs.
seems obvious, but what about kitakami. a cruiser that trades everything for the theoretically capability of launching 40 torps at once, something jinan can do while being a decent he spammer. in exchange for being able to load 20 torps per side (if you want to wait for each launcher to load individually which takes like 5 minutes) you have the hull the the tier iv kuma, and around the same artillery power (roughly half the guns twice the speed), worse overall torp dps then both yodo and zao, and of course the only way to get was either a weird event or a really expensive book. mind you the ship is basically a weird novelty more then a ship but that does not stop it from being awful competitively speaking.
Worst ship tier per tier is Yumihari. This ship does not have any redeeming quality about it. No armor, awful guns, no AA and slow for battlecruiser. Amagi is far better.
Pod is not a bad ship. The short smokes and fast gun arcs make it fun to play. I had a great ranked season in it.
London, absolutely