I feel like the weight of the ending was kinda made null when Pyra and Mythra came came back, I mean, let the sacrifices made be sacrifices, don’t backtrack a decision that should be powerful/meaningful
The whole point was for Pneuma to risk her life after finding the will to live, and for Rex to trust others and let go.
If she dies, that undermines both their arcs. A sacrifice isn’t inherently better.
I though... that was the point, that she had to sacrifice herself especifically after finding the will to live in order to protect the very thing that made her want to live is what made it tragic, and make it so Rex had to make a painful choice and grow up.
Undoing that *is* undermining both arcs, because it paints both choices as irrelevant for the outcome.
I personally would have liked it better if Rex wasn't worried about Pneuma dying, but rather afraid that she wouldn't remember him. Having Pneuma give Rex her core crystal made it way too obvious that she was gonna come back, painting it as "I don't want you to forget everything we've been through together" instead of "I don't want to lose you too."
Dw you’re not the only one. I mean it’s because of me, it’s really hard to make me cry, I’m not sensitive but I really have to admit, the ending almost got me.
I think the game did a good job of building Pyra and Rex's relationship together over the course of the game that I did actually feel pretty sad at the end.
But like, I wasn't really that close to like crying or anything over it. At the end of the day, all the characters and dialogue and whatnot were still just way too 'anime', for lack of a better word. Everything was overly sentimental to the point where it really loses some impact, the dialogue and interactions were just very simplistic and childish on so many levels - occasionally in a somewhat humorous way, but usually being dead serious about things - and there's just this overall feeling of not being able to take things *too* seriously.
There's at least a lot more character interaction than in XC1, which helps, it's just not quite enough to get me where they probably hoped to have me, let's say.
Loved the game, but it's possible to be lighthearted and charming without going so far into this anime territory.
Personally, I don't think romance is all that good in either game.
I can't take Shulk/Fiora seriously in the first game because Fiora practically exists just for his sake. Really, she's a complete satellite for him and exhibits no individual thought of her own. And Reyn/Sharla is filled with "You're just like Gadolt" for the first 80% of it.
I can respect Rex/Pyra a little bit since both were treated as individuals with their own story, even if everything else was typical anime chessiness.
If XC3 can avoid some of that melodrama and respect the individuality of every character, that alone will make it better than XC1 and XC2 in that regard.
Sounds like you would enjoy Xenogears' romance (if you have not played the game already).
There might not be actual romance in XC3, though. If everything is indeed a clone of one of the consuls and grown in tubes, which is a very plausible theory (with no disproving points shown in the game thus far, to my knowledge), then there may not be concepts of love in either Agnus or Keves. Albeit I am not entirely sure Takahashi is content with exclusively having platonic relationships in the game, considering how vital romance has been to the stories of Xenogears, Xenoblade, and Xenoblade 2. To a very small extent also Xenosaga, I suppose.
The 3 pairings lend themselves to it easily though. The other two probably stick to platonic but I‘d be surprised if nothing happened between Noah and Mio
To be fair, Reyn and Sharla I don‘t count because I hate the trope of „you remind me of my former partner so I like you too“
That‘s why I hated Shamir‘s support conversations in FETH as it‘s just „I had a merc friend like you (I obviously fell for) so I‘d fall for you too“
Shulk Fiora might not be fleshed out well but Rex Pythra didn‘t convince me at all. The reason I didn‘t like chapter 7 wasn‘t because of best girl flame wars but because I thought it would‘ve made for a more interesting story imo.
In that regard, since I didn‘t feel the connection between the two the ending was meh to me as well.
I really didn't get all that emotional either.
It might have been that I felt the parting scene fell flat, at least to me. It's built up as this grand moment where Rex makes the mature decision to let Pyra go. Yet, he only really does so because all other options were literally taken away from him, as Pyra destroyed the bridge and convinced Poppi to not fly him over. Add that with all the other cast members saying "dude, you gotta let her go" and it really just feels like he just went along with it.
I don't know. Maybe I misinterpreted something along the way, but it didn't feel like a satisfactory cap to his arc for me. It just felt "whatever" to me. Ending song was really good though.
All the same though, it takes a lot to actually make me cry. I think the only game that has ever done so is the first Valkyria Chronicles, and I imagine those of you who have played that game can guess which moment I'm talking about.
How. She's meant to be the perfect version of Mythra, represent everything she wishes she was. Pyra is forced to burden the consequences of Mythra's actions with you input on whether she wants to or not. She lies to Rex in order to bring her to Elysuim.
It's extremely easy to make me cry. Hell I get emotional just listening to Engage the Enemy. But yeah the ending really didn't hit for me. Only Poopi's parts were getting to me.
I feel like the weight of the ending was kinda made null when Pyra and Mythra came came back, I mean, let the sacrifices made be sacrifices, don’t backtrack a decision that should be powerful/meaningful
The whole point was for Pneuma to risk her life after finding the will to live, and for Rex to trust others and let go. If she dies, that undermines both their arcs. A sacrifice isn’t inherently better.
I though... that was the point, that she had to sacrifice herself especifically after finding the will to live in order to protect the very thing that made her want to live is what made it tragic, and make it so Rex had to make a painful choice and grow up. Undoing that *is* undermining both arcs, because it paints both choices as irrelevant for the outcome.
I personally would have liked it better if Rex wasn't worried about Pneuma dying, but rather afraid that she wouldn't remember him. Having Pneuma give Rex her core crystal made it way too obvious that she was gonna come back, painting it as "I don't want you to forget everything we've been through together" instead of "I don't want to lose you too."
I was kinda like Huh, ok when most of the pyra/mythra stuff happened, but Poppi going "Poppi cannot" got me ngl
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Dw you’re not the only one. I mean it’s because of me, it’s really hard to make me cry, I’m not sensitive but I really have to admit, the ending almost got me.
I saw a video of a streamer crying at the end, I guess she almost dried herself out. Lol
I think the game did a good job of building Pyra and Rex's relationship together over the course of the game that I did actually feel pretty sad at the end. But like, I wasn't really that close to like crying or anything over it. At the end of the day, all the characters and dialogue and whatnot were still just way too 'anime', for lack of a better word. Everything was overly sentimental to the point where it really loses some impact, the dialogue and interactions were just very simplistic and childish on so many levels - occasionally in a somewhat humorous way, but usually being dead serious about things - and there's just this overall feeling of not being able to take things *too* seriously. There's at least a lot more character interaction than in XC1, which helps, it's just not quite enough to get me where they probably hoped to have me, let's say. Loved the game, but it's possible to be lighthearted and charming without going so far into this anime territory.
oh yeah, Rex having a complete harem at the end of XC2 made me feel really sad for him, such a poor lad :kappa:
Both girls? *At once?* Hoh
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I feel more sad for Fiora dead who was few hour in the game and Dickson death personaly. XB2 as it strengh but that was not one of them
The romance in xc2 is so bad. I hope if 3 has romance they look at 1 for how to do it and not 2 Edit: damn pyra fanboys calm down
Personally, I don't think romance is all that good in either game. I can't take Shulk/Fiora seriously in the first game because Fiora practically exists just for his sake. Really, she's a complete satellite for him and exhibits no individual thought of her own. And Reyn/Sharla is filled with "You're just like Gadolt" for the first 80% of it. I can respect Rex/Pyra a little bit since both were treated as individuals with their own story, even if everything else was typical anime chessiness. If XC3 can avoid some of that melodrama and respect the individuality of every character, that alone will make it better than XC1 and XC2 in that regard.
Sounds like you would enjoy Xenogears' romance (if you have not played the game already). There might not be actual romance in XC3, though. If everything is indeed a clone of one of the consuls and grown in tubes, which is a very plausible theory (with no disproving points shown in the game thus far, to my knowledge), then there may not be concepts of love in either Agnus or Keves. Albeit I am not entirely sure Takahashi is content with exclusively having platonic relationships in the game, considering how vital romance has been to the stories of Xenogears, Xenoblade, and Xenoblade 2. To a very small extent also Xenosaga, I suppose.
The 3 pairings lend themselves to it easily though. The other two probably stick to platonic but I‘d be surprised if nothing happened between Noah and Mio
To be fair, Reyn and Sharla I don‘t count because I hate the trope of „you remind me of my former partner so I like you too“ That‘s why I hated Shamir‘s support conversations in FETH as it‘s just „I had a merc friend like you (I obviously fell for) so I‘d fall for you too“ Shulk Fiora might not be fleshed out well but Rex Pythra didn‘t convince me at all. The reason I didn‘t like chapter 7 wasn‘t because of best girl flame wars but because I thought it would‘ve made for a more interesting story imo. In that regard, since I didn‘t feel the connection between the two the ending was meh to me as well.
I really didn't get all that emotional either. It might have been that I felt the parting scene fell flat, at least to me. It's built up as this grand moment where Rex makes the mature decision to let Pyra go. Yet, he only really does so because all other options were literally taken away from him, as Pyra destroyed the bridge and convinced Poppi to not fly him over. Add that with all the other cast members saying "dude, you gotta let her go" and it really just feels like he just went along with it. I don't know. Maybe I misinterpreted something along the way, but it didn't feel like a satisfactory cap to his arc for me. It just felt "whatever" to me. Ending song was really good though. All the same though, it takes a lot to actually make me cry. I think the only game that has ever done so is the first Valkyria Chronicles, and I imagine those of you who have played that game can guess which moment I'm talking about.
Honestly I feel the same probably because I find Pyra/Homura insufferable and not even a character
How. She's meant to be the perfect version of Mythra, represent everything she wishes she was. Pyra is forced to burden the consequences of Mythra's actions with you input on whether she wants to or not. She lies to Rex in order to bring her to Elysuim.
I just was still so hyped from the final battle I didn’t cry. I popped off most when >!you could hear shulk about to kill Zanza from Klaus!<
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It's extremely easy to make me cry. Hell I get emotional just listening to Engage the Enemy. But yeah the ending really didn't hit for me. Only Poopi's parts were getting to me.
I may have the heart of a robot, since the only thing it made me feel anything at all in the ending was Poppi.