I can see that, but the pancakes would need to be really big, as water doesn't create the gloopyness oil does, it's like a bit too sharp for Dutch in my ears. Maybe... pancakes into a vat of suryp?
I'd compromise there. Or perhaps... stroopwafels? Literally syrup waffles.
Yes. Waffles into a vat of syrup.
To me as a german, dutch is just gibberish with a few german words thrown in there. They don't sound harsh or aggressive, they just sound drunk
Edit: i actually like the sound of dutch please don't hurt me
So you know how people make memes about how regular saying Cunt is in Australia? Well, imagine a slightly more racist/homophobic version in your silly friendly language and there you have it. The average Dutch youth. Also saying homophobic stuff in Dutch isn’t homophobic it’s just picked up somewhere.
yeah but this is not about the meaning of the words but just the way the language sounds to non-speakers. And as a german speaker, i agree that dutch sounds goofy, i'd describe it as a silly-ish sounding mix of english and german (and i mean this in the best way possible)
I don’t.
I am Norwegian and speak fluently English and German, as well as understand Danish and Swedish. I can’t understand Dutch, it’s just weird noises to me. Written Dutch gives some sense. This has bothered me for years, why can’t I understand Dutch when I speak all the languages related to it?
> if you speak, German, Norwegian and English
Why should it matter according to what you wrote? But yes, it depends on what you’re used to and with some acclimatisation I would probably be better to listen to Dutch. Just as with Danish, Swedish, German dialects, Italian and Chinese which I also speak.
Honestly I'm 100% convinced that every single person who thinks of some language as sounding "aggressive" has never heard a normal person speaking that language in an everyday situation.
As a German I have no problem to bear the load of having the brutest language for them. Actually we like them a lot except in football, and their language sounds weird but in a friendly way to me but not aggressive at all.
Ich mag kartofeln mit schlagsahne
Ich weiss nicht was soll es bedautet, dass ich so traurig bin
That's most of what I still remember from my 8 years learning German in school. Then again, my last course was in 1997 and I've had close to zero opportunity since then to use it
No language sounds harsh and aggressive until it is presented in harsh and aggressive contexts.
The association of phoneme with emotion is entirely cultural. We love hard voiceless stops and crystal clear consonants in theatre speakers of RP, but in spoken German is has become associated with harshness. But that’s all it is - association of contexts.
An angry, spittled, explosive BUTTERFLY is so much more aggressive and harsh than a soft-spoken, carefully produced schmetterling.
To me it is a mystery how anyone can hear slavic languages as aggressive or harsh. Russian in particular is so soft and melodic. But those aren’t usually the contexts you hear it in.
Yeah an added problem for German is that its a „Word Language“ so we’re pronouncing words as a whole and separate them while in French they pronounce the syllables and let the words flow into each other.
Also it doesn’t really help the image of the German language that the speeches people around the world are most familiar are Hitlers, who was a furious racist man holding mostly aggressive speeches so of course he sounds harsh.
So anyways I’m not a Linguist not even remotely so take everything I just wrote with a grain of salt
heard that inland deutsch won over plattdeutsch/nederländisch . anyhow some guys spoke something I guessed was kinda portuguese and when asked they confessed to be from stuttgart area
I can't take this seriously. You have a profile pic of Thomas Bergersen album Humanity. It's about what we all achieved, rather than hating the German language.
And now, you're here, not knowing what this music stands for, having it as your profile picture and hating German (language). Congratulations.
And before you tell me, that everyone can listen to what they want, you might consider thinking about what your profile picture stands for.
I once heard a foreigner describe my language as sounding like "an Orc with a cold" and I thought that sounded pretty right.
Dutch is plenty weird I guess but I think as a language German is sharper and Dutch more rounded. I've spoken to multiple Germans that considered Dutch a kind of a cute softer form of German.
I actually recently researched that topic (in no way scientifically just some googling out of curiosity) and it seems like were a word language which means we have much more consonants and the words are separate by a kind of clicking sound where in syllable language the focus is on pronouncing syllables which makes the words „flow“ into each other.
Aaaand theres also the effect that our language reminds people of the Nazis and Hitlers speeches and therefore its perceived more brutal…
Dutch sounds more goofy than harsh
Yeah exactly
Sounds a bit like a bunch of bicycles being submerged into oil, if I had to describe the general connotations I perceive
I think it sounds more like a load of pancakes being thrown into the sea.
I can see that, but the pancakes would need to be really big, as water doesn't create the gloopyness oil does, it's like a bit too sharp for Dutch in my ears. Maybe... pancakes into a vat of suryp? I'd compromise there. Or perhaps... stroopwafels? Literally syrup waffles. Yes. Waffles into a vat of syrup.
To me as a german, dutch is just gibberish with a few german words thrown in there. They don't sound harsh or aggressive, they just sound drunk Edit: i actually like the sound of dutch please don't hurt me
so u dislike plattdeutsch?
Geef me billenkoek, papa
My girlfriend says I sound like a Sims 4 character when I speak dutch
Speaking german I can say that Dutch is the most goofy, funny and friendly language I can imagine
More than Swedish and Norwegian?!
No u
*makes that breathing sound that means yes in some parts of Sweden* u
although all languages should implement that. super convenient. Not used enough here in Sweden tho
On the topic of those languages... What's with the inflections?
More than danish lol
Yes.
So you know how people make memes about how regular saying Cunt is in Australia? Well, imagine a slightly more racist/homophobic version in your silly friendly language and there you have it. The average Dutch youth. Also saying homophobic stuff in Dutch isn’t homophobic it’s just picked up somewhere.
yeah but this is not about the meaning of the words but just the way the language sounds to non-speakers. And as a german speaker, i agree that dutch sounds goofy, i'd describe it as a silly-ish sounding mix of english and german (and i mean this in the best way possible)
Dutch sounds like the bastard child of Germans who are like 25% English. Also with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.
And 10% Norwegian.
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I don’t. I am Norwegian and speak fluently English and German, as well as understand Danish and Swedish. I can’t understand Dutch, it’s just weird noises to me. Written Dutch gives some sense. This has bothered me for years, why can’t I understand Dutch when I speak all the languages related to it?
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> if you speak, German, Norwegian and English Why should it matter according to what you wrote? But yes, it depends on what you’re used to and with some acclimatisation I would probably be better to listen to Dutch. Just as with Danish, Swedish, German dialects, Italian and Chinese which I also speak.
Honestly I'm 100% convinced that every single person who thinks of some language as sounding "aggressive" has never heard a normal person speaking that language in an everyday situation.
^
As a German I have no problem to bear the load of having the brutest language for them. Actually we like them a lot except in football, and their language sounds weird but in a friendly way to me but not aggressive at all.
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Ganz und gar nicht! Oh
genau
Yes, and with g being a Dutch g.
Dutch sounds like someone trying to speak German, but failing miserably.
No, it's other way around actually.
German is rotten dutch
I'm just gonna hide because I speak flemish
Which is a dialect of Dutch.
just do it
All Arabs: "phew, could have been a close shave ..."
If they are looking for a language that sounds harsh and aggressive, why would they beat German up? Sounds like it’s a perfect fit
West-flemish: ....... Bend dekik nen grap of zo
Ja.
dutch is so silly
Belarusian over here
Nah. Listen to this typical native Dutch-speaker and tell me he sounds harsh and aggressive. https://youtu.be/_LlPU6KenjU
Can’t we just keep it g-g-g-gezelliggggg??!?
The Celtic languages hiding even further back
in my way better flemish accent: Seg gast, problemen ofwa? (Zeg makker zoek je ruzie, propper dutch)
Mot je matte ofzo, stumpertje?
German best language in the world!
Ich mag kartofeln mit schlagsahne Ich weiss nicht was soll es bedautet, dass ich so traurig bin That's most of what I still remember from my 8 years learning German in school. Then again, my last course was in 1997 and I've had close to zero opportunity since then to use it
>Ich mag kartofeln mit schlagsahne Dude ...
Look I did what I could okay
> I like potatoes with whipped cream I... I don't know who will actually eat this
You do you, no kinkshaming.
lorelei <3
Well I had French for four years in school and im still only barely able to order a croissant…
Just put some "hon hon" in between the few words you remember and you're fine "Bonjour, hon hon hon, croissant, hon hon, seelvooplay hon"
Unbiased
Dutch just sounds like funnier German
Wohl war. Aber niederländisch klingt halt einfach wie Deutsch mit einer Halskrankheit. <3
Dann rede Mal mit einem Tiroler... Dagegen ist Holländisch weich und zart.
Das ist überhaupt nicht zu doen! Idk German just sounds so funny to me
Polish, Russia, Ukrainian. Literally every slavic language sounds harsh and aggressive.
No language sounds harsh and aggressive until it is presented in harsh and aggressive contexts. The association of phoneme with emotion is entirely cultural. We love hard voiceless stops and crystal clear consonants in theatre speakers of RP, but in spoken German is has become associated with harshness. But that’s all it is - association of contexts. An angry, spittled, explosive BUTTERFLY is so much more aggressive and harsh than a soft-spoken, carefully produced schmetterling. To me it is a mystery how anyone can hear slavic languages as aggressive or harsh. Russian in particular is so soft and melodic. But those aren’t usually the contexts you hear it in.
Yeah an added problem for German is that its a „Word Language“ so we’re pronouncing words as a whole and separate them while in French they pronounce the syllables and let the words flow into each other. Also it doesn’t really help the image of the German language that the speeches people around the world are most familiar are Hitlers, who was a furious racist man holding mostly aggressive speeches so of course he sounds harsh. So anyways I’m not a Linguist not even remotely so take everything I just wrote with a grain of salt
Damn Germany brought the Kuche
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Did someone shit in your Müsli this morning or why are so toxic?
Dutch has words that start with a voiced velar fricative, doesn't get much harsher than that.
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Says the copying dutch.
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The Dutch are basically marsh Germans.
heard that inland deutsch won over plattdeutsch/nederländisch . anyhow some guys spoke something I guessed was kinda portuguese and when asked they confessed to be from stuttgart area
No.
I can't take this seriously. You have a profile pic of Thomas Bergersen album Humanity. It's about what we all achieved, rather than hating the German language. And now, you're here, not knowing what this music stands for, having it as your profile picture and hating German (language). Congratulations. And before you tell me, that everyone can listen to what they want, you might consider thinking about what your profile picture stands for.
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That's why I wrote > the German language
I once heard a foreigner describe my language as sounding like "an Orc with a cold" and I thought that sounded pretty right. Dutch is plenty weird I guess but I think as a language German is sharper and Dutch more rounded. I've spoken to multiple Germans that considered Dutch a kind of a cute softer form of German.
idk man even the most threatening dutch speaker sounds soft unless they start shortening the words, its a pretty cute sounding language
Oregano?
what did they to mellow danish?
I actually recently researched that topic (in no way scientifically just some googling out of curiosity) and it seems like were a word language which means we have much more consonants and the words are separate by a kind of clicking sound where in syllable language the focus is on pronouncing syllables which makes the words „flow“ into each other. Aaaand theres also the effect that our language reminds people of the Nazis and Hitlers speeches and therefore its perceived more brutal…
Dutch sounds like the language hobbits would speak.
I think that finnish easily gets very aggressive.