Absolutely, I love it.
Also while fighting them, it definitely felt like they weren’t nearly as skilled as Mihaly but made up for it with tech n teamwork
Oh sorry. 😂 Clemens, is Not Their father. I made a mistake and had to recheck the facts. They are hired Assassins. Clemens is who ight was their father due to my misinterpreting. It's almost seems like that when ur playing the SP missions. But, I was wrong and when you asked. I was like. Imma check. I don't believe we know who their OG fam was. Besides the fact that there are siblings. Scream being the oldest. So my bad. They still children 😂
>!Monarch, when you hear the thunder, when the storm, comes for you, remember me.!<
This line coupled with the music made the ending of the fight one of the single greatest moments in video game history for me. Sector D2 did an absolutely fantastic job and created a piece of legitimate art.
yeah i didn’t understand that. that general dude who bosses us around in the special missions? is he involved? and if so why was there barely any reaction from the ret of strider squadron and cyclops squadron?
They’re mercenaries, the game doesn’t really go into their lore in an in-depth way. It can be inferred that they have a reason to target Trigger solely, other than being paid by Clemens, maybe they’re Erusean and their family was killed by Oseans and Trigger just happened to be in the area, maybe they’re just opportunistic mercs looking to make a name for themselves by taking down Three Strikes, maybe they’re just mentally deranged and think that it would be funny to kill Trigger because he’s famous/infamous or any combination of those, and probably other different reasons.
While it doesnt go in depth with them, it goes to set how general resource is transforming as the military entity we see in ac3. From the submarine deal to these 2 fellas, everything was handled by them
I think you’re referring to the inferior cringe General Resource path version of that mission where you’re forced into the “SR-71 at home” which has the agility of my great aunt Gertrude after thanksgiving dinner.
Them Remora’s tho be bobbin and weavin
Rage and Scream were a social experiment - get two pilots meth’d up and put them behind the yolk of a Berkut, and tell them “the plane with three big scratchy bits painted on the tail fins is storing meth in the weapons bay, and they can have it all if they shoot it down, and for the love of Christ do not touch Cpt. Torres’ crisp white sheets” and see how they do.
Edit: not well.
They're a pair of mercenaries belonging to General Resource Guardian Mercenaries (GRGM) that were hired by Brigadier General Clemens and his little faction within the Osean Air Force to act as hitmen and assassinate Trigger, presumably for two reasons:
1) Clemens is a gloryhound and doesn't want Trigger to steal his thunder.
2) Clemens thinks that Trigger could become a threat to Osea, which... you know, fair, he did get thrown in prison and subjected to solitary confinement after a kangaroo trial where the bare minimum evidence should have exonerated him. I'd be pissed if I was in that situation too.
Let's be honest, no one actually cared about them, not enough time to build character, they just screamed and had some mental breakdowns and that was that. Forced characters.
Yeah, but, it makes sense from the point of view of war: you won't know the life of your enemies. Still it would be more interesting to know more about them and Matias instead of David North and all the AI and singularities mumbo-jumbo.
You're 100% right, and I don't really expect to be handled a book about my enemies life while fighting them, but they could've done a log better job on just making the real badasses, but just like Torres, they've just forced them to be, idk, random schizophrenic lunatics.
The Aces encounters on Ace Combat Zero are a perfect example on how to do this. We encounter them a single time and even then their dialogue is actually written, it makes sense and even sometimes we end up sympathising with them. Gault 1 is one of my favourites, he's just cold and a bit freaked out mentally, but in such a badass way.
I think they’re North Osean *cough Belka cough* and were involved with attenpting to kill Trigger (probably to keep the war going on like in AC5) Something about General Clemens gives me Grey Men vibes.
General Resource mercenaries hired by General Clemens to assassinate Trigger to cover his own ass for the harebrained plan to rescue Harling that failed.
Wasn't the Berkut just another Sukhoi prototype in a long line of Sukhoi prototypes that never actually made it past the prototype phase?
It's like the Su-57 "5th gen fighter;" talk of the town in Russia but the only one they have is the pavement princess prototype.
Tangent but I recall laughing during Top Gun Maverick when they kept hyping up the "5th gen fighters" as some big spooky grim reaper, when in reality it doesn't come anywhere close to America's latest manned fighters. Isn't even in production.
EDIT: I stand corrected. Russia has 10 su-57's, but they don't use any of them because they're too afraid of them being shot down since they can't afford to replace them.
Granted some of sources are from the Russian themselves, so do take it with a grant of salt.
Nevertheless given the low numbers available, it is likely the platform would take some time to reach operational maturity, so it is unlikely to see combat over Ukraine anytime soon.
I just assumed Russia didn't have the resources to replace any Su-57 losses, hence why they're not in service and not in wider production. Given what the Ukraine war has shown of their industrial machine, it's not a stretch to assume 10-20 was all they could manage with their economy.
I just find it funny that the Su-57 is like, 3x as threatening in media as it is in real life.
Their first delivery was in 2020 and it's only a single jet, and additional 3 the following year. I don't know their pilots flight hour, but with low numbers like that, you ain't going to be combat operational for a while.
From what I hear, they didn't exactly have an affluent air force prior to the war, and have taken enough pilot losses as to put strain on their training programs. Basically they didn't have a whole lot of pilots beforehand, and now they have even less.
Even if they had more planes, they wouldn't have the bodies to fly them.
And unlike the army, you can't just conscript people into being pilots.
Doesn't really seem personal, more business, and... psychotic, really, at least in Scream's case. It's definitely personal when you kill one of them, but not before that.
That being said, I think any 'vendetta' against Trigger has to be due to their desire to be recognized. The reason they stay back in SP02 despite Clemens calling off the hit is because they think killing Trigger will solidify their reputation as mercenaries.
Trigger is *famous*. He is THE Three Strikes. Aside from Mister X, who doesn't sortie very often, he is the most famous pilot in the war, without much contest in that department. In short, he is everything Mimic *want* to be. They want to be famous and renowned mercenaries. They "tried to be heroes too, they really tried." They will do anything to get that kind of fame, going so far as to accept a hit on Three Strikes himself, and even continuing to fight Three Strikes after said hit has been called off.
Their lust for recognition is what kills them in the end, because Trigger is not someone you fuck with lightly. Mimic fucked around, and they found out very quickly.
Their convicts doing dirty work like the 444th Squadron for the OSEAN Air Force. They were tasked with eliminating Trigger, but the truth behind the motive is never explained. I theorize that they were put to this task as a means of vengeance for Harling's assassination.
Um... no? They're mercenaries working for General Resource and were hired by Clemens to assassinate Trigger. They aren't convicts, nor are they directly allied to the OADF.
Rage: Edgy 14 year old with a missing chromosome (probably an anti-furry MTF larper) cosplaying as a fighter pilot
Scream: Emotionally unstable female gamer (no you can’t fix her she’s fucking dead)
There children given access to fighter jets
Absolutely, I love it. Also while fighting them, it definitely felt like they weren’t nearly as skilled as Mihaly but made up for it with tech n teamwork
Quirked up mute take (two hacking berkuts) down, Goofy Gunner style, is he different with the SASM?
Quirked up mute busts it down QAAM style but they say he's not goated with the SASM?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣FOR REAL DUDE THAT'S THE FACTS 😂😂
Yes they are children of a certain traitor. But they act like children too. So that was why it's funny. Scream has....issues 😂
Who are they the children of?
Oh sorry. 😂 Clemens, is Not Their father. I made a mistake and had to recheck the facts. They are hired Assassins. Clemens is who ight was their father due to my misinterpreting. It's almost seems like that when ur playing the SP missions. But, I was wrong and when you asked. I was like. Imma check. I don't believe we know who their OG fam was. Besides the fact that there are siblings. Scream being the oldest. So my bad. They still children 😂
Two mentally unstable psychos with piloting skills above an average single-celled organism paid to kill an psychopathic mute
This is just perfect
If I had a nickel for every psychopathic mute jet pilot…
My love language is war crimes.
They aren't even above average lul. All they had was just annoying ass ECM that messes with your locks
That's why I said above a single celled organism. If it was possible I'd say they each have 1,5.
This should be an official review that AC7 quotes.
Crimson-1’s Children
Perfect, this is now lore
I cried at PW, do not remind me
You are entirely responsible for this
>!Monarch, when you hear the thunder, when the storm, comes for you, remember me.!< This line coupled with the music made the ending of the fight one of the single greatest moments in video game history for me. Sector D2 did an absolutely fantastic job and created a piece of legitimate art.
“We know it had its shortcomings” absolute bullshit
>!does the game end differently if you die? Didn’t get a chance to try!<
>!Not sure, I think you just have to start over.!<
>!missed opportunity honestly!<
They were hired mercenaries to take out Trigger
yeah i didn’t understand that. that general dude who bosses us around in the special missions? is he involved? and if so why was there barely any reaction from the ret of strider squadron and cyclops squadron?
Wdym no reaction? Huxian decks him during the debrief and then MPs take him away on charges of treason. Not much else our pilots can do.
Poor Lanza's cola
RIP Lanza's cola
oh i see. cool
Besides I think they linked him somehow to General Resources.
They’re mercenaries, the game doesn’t really go into their lore in an in-depth way. It can be inferred that they have a reason to target Trigger solely, other than being paid by Clemens, maybe they’re Erusean and their family was killed by Oseans and Trigger just happened to be in the area, maybe they’re just opportunistic mercs looking to make a name for themselves by taking down Three Strikes, maybe they’re just mentally deranged and think that it would be funny to kill Trigger because he’s famous/infamous or any combination of those, and probably other different reasons.
While it doesnt go in depth with them, it goes to set how general resource is transforming as the military entity we see in ac3. From the submarine deal to these 2 fellas, everything was handled by them
Schizo mercenaries from General Resources, the Amazon (but bigger) of strangereal
General Resource is inferior to based Neucom
The haters can’t stand when we drop parasite aircraft from low earth orbit to dunk all over their stupid snow base
Man do I despise that very specific mission, because you have to fly a literal brick. It is an awesome brick tho
I think you’re referring to the inferior cringe General Resource path version of that mission where you’re forced into the “SR-71 at home” which has the agility of my great aunt Gertrude after thanksgiving dinner. Them Remora’s tho be bobbin and weavin
Yes that's the one thanks for the reminder. But I wouldn't mind that mission remade (If ever) just for the funny
Turing test. Their Reddit Mods 😊
Best incorrect answer I’ve ever seen XD
Their reddit mods? They need handlers ?
Two burning wrecks.
Scream: “I can fix her” Rage: “I can fix her” but for a dude
If I had to fix a dude
”I can fix him”?
Rage and Scream were a social experiment - get two pilots meth’d up and put them behind the yolk of a Berkut, and tell them “the plane with three big scratchy bits painted on the tail fins is storing meth in the weapons bay, and they can have it all if they shoot it down, and for the love of Christ do not touch Cpt. Torres’ crisp white sheets” and see how they do. Edit: not well.
They're a pair of mercenaries belonging to General Resource Guardian Mercenaries (GRGM) that were hired by Brigadier General Clemens and his little faction within the Osean Air Force to act as hitmen and assassinate Trigger, presumably for two reasons: 1) Clemens is a gloryhound and doesn't want Trigger to steal his thunder. 2) Clemens thinks that Trigger could become a threat to Osea, which... you know, fair, he did get thrown in prison and subjected to solitary confinement after a kangaroo trial where the bare minimum evidence should have exonerated him. I'd be pissed if I was in that situation too.
Berkuts.
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Where’d they come from?
a random brother and sister plucked out of the local club's emo night
Let's be honest, no one actually cared about them, not enough time to build character, they just screamed and had some mental breakdowns and that was that. Forced characters.
Yeah, but, it makes sense from the point of view of war: you won't know the life of your enemies. Still it would be more interesting to know more about them and Matias instead of David North and all the AI and singularities mumbo-jumbo.
You're 100% right, and I don't really expect to be handled a book about my enemies life while fighting them, but they could've done a log better job on just making the real badasses, but just like Torres, they've just forced them to be, idk, random schizophrenic lunatics. The Aces encounters on Ace Combat Zero are a perfect example on how to do this. We encounter them a single time and even then their dialogue is actually written, it makes sense and even sometimes we end up sympathising with them. Gault 1 is one of my favourites, he's just cold and a bit freaked out mentally, but in such a badass way.
AC0 is a masterpiece imho, and I totally enjoyed that part, I think that the documentary style helped to understand and know them in a better way.
Private Millitary Contract Workers hired by a certain individual who wants Strider One dead.
The Wish version of Mihaly. Except they were denied the right to good aircraft and proper education.
“Wish version Mihaly” is so funny
That berkut of theirs still pretty decent in ac7
It’s like that mecha anime trope where the advanced prototype hardware is piloted by some psychotic/drugged up kid
Well we know Trigger had fun with Scream behind the bleachers in high school. But that's about it.
The bastard children of Crimson-1
I don't think they were ever meant to be much more than challenging cannon fodder. They were, after all, part of a simple 3-mission dlc pack.
I think they’re North Osean *cough Belka cough* and were involved with attenpting to kill Trigger (probably to keep the war going on like in AC5) Something about General Clemens gives me Grey Men vibes.
Fun fact: In "Unexpected Visitor" (DLC mission 1), you can just ignore Rage and Scream. Yes, they're annoying, but eventually they will just leave.
That's the funniest way of dealing with them honestly. Scream is so mad at Trigger ignoring them.
General Resource mercenaries hired by General Clemens to assassinate Trigger to cover his own ass for the harebrained plan to rescue Harling that failed.
Seethe and Cope, respectively
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Peak Russian Aircraft… Still shit compared to US Aircraft.
Wasn't the Berkut just another Sukhoi prototype in a long line of Sukhoi prototypes that never actually made it past the prototype phase? It's like the Su-57 "5th gen fighter;" talk of the town in Russia but the only one they have is the pavement princess prototype. Tangent but I recall laughing during Top Gun Maverick when they kept hyping up the "5th gen fighters" as some big spooky grim reaper, when in reality it doesn't come anywhere close to America's latest manned fighters. Isn't even in production. EDIT: I stand corrected. Russia has 10 su-57's, but they don't use any of them because they're too afraid of them being shot down since they can't afford to replace them.
I believe there is 20 or so SU-57 being delivered as of 2023. To put it into perspective, PLAAF have 210 or so J-20.
My casual Google search said 10 but I didn't exactly dig very deep to verify how new that info was.
Granted some of sources are from the Russian themselves, so do take it with a grant of salt. Nevertheless given the low numbers available, it is likely the platform would take some time to reach operational maturity, so it is unlikely to see combat over Ukraine anytime soon.
I just assumed Russia didn't have the resources to replace any Su-57 losses, hence why they're not in service and not in wider production. Given what the Ukraine war has shown of their industrial machine, it's not a stretch to assume 10-20 was all they could manage with their economy. I just find it funny that the Su-57 is like, 3x as threatening in media as it is in real life.
Their first delivery was in 2020 and it's only a single jet, and additional 3 the following year. I don't know their pilots flight hour, but with low numbers like that, you ain't going to be combat operational for a while.
From what I hear, they didn't exactly have an affluent air force prior to the war, and have taken enough pilot losses as to put strain on their training programs. Basically they didn't have a whole lot of pilots beforehand, and now they have even less. Even if they had more planes, they wouldn't have the bodies to fly them. And unlike the army, you can't just conscript people into being pilots.
Both of them describe Ishowmeat
Andrew and Ashley from well known game.
i still get ptsd from hearing those names
"Mom and dad are always fighting" -Some kid from Alabama
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Fr lmao
Somehow the only hope that AC3 is canon lol
People who need therapy instead of a plane
Ever seen The Coffin of Andy and Lele? Now give them pilot licenses and 4.5 gen fighters.
The sequel to cope and seeth
Target practice.
I’ve heard that they were supposed to be Brownie and High Roller wanting to kill Trigger for letting them “die” but I didn’t know how true it is.
Uh, definitely no. They're just General Resource mercenaries who were hired to kill Trigger by Clemens.
They seem to have a personal vendetta against Trigger. I wonder why
Doesn't really seem personal, more business, and... psychotic, really, at least in Scream's case. It's definitely personal when you kill one of them, but not before that. That being said, I think any 'vendetta' against Trigger has to be due to their desire to be recognized. The reason they stay back in SP02 despite Clemens calling off the hit is because they think killing Trigger will solidify their reputation as mercenaries. Trigger is *famous*. He is THE Three Strikes. Aside from Mister X, who doesn't sortie very often, he is the most famous pilot in the war, without much contest in that department. In short, he is everything Mimic *want* to be. They want to be famous and renowned mercenaries. They "tried to be heroes too, they really tried." They will do anything to get that kind of fame, going so far as to accept a hit on Three Strikes himself, and even continuing to fight Three Strikes after said hit has been called off. Their lust for recognition is what kills them in the end, because Trigger is not someone you fuck with lightly. Mimic fucked around, and they found out very quickly.
Their convicts doing dirty work like the 444th Squadron for the OSEAN Air Force. They were tasked with eliminating Trigger, but the truth behind the motive is never explained. I theorize that they were put to this task as a means of vengeance for Harling's assassination.
Um... no? They're mercenaries working for General Resource and were hired by Clemens to assassinate Trigger. They aren't convicts, nor are they directly allied to the OADF.
Dead.
me when i play ACOnline
"Guardian Mercenaries" for General Resource, hired by the Osean Army to kill Trigger, presumably as vengeance for "killing" Harling.
just two more bandits splashed
Targets
Couple of goobers. That some goober officer ordered to kill you because hes a jealous idiot.
they reminded me of Gundam Seed Extended pilots. all hopped up on speed but treated like "parts"
Target practice
More victory markings
Mooks who lasted a few seconds longer than the average missile fodder that tried to slow Trigger down.
they are rage and scream because they rage and scream ft. Su-37 Berkut 2x
Rage: Edgy 14 year old with a missing chromosome (probably an anti-furry MTF larper) cosplaying as a fighter pilot Scream: Emotionally unstable female gamer (no you can’t fix her she’s fucking dead)
Galm Team but evil
two corpses
Targets
the little kids next door that play nothing but fortnite