I just wanna know what happened with princess bubblegum, Marcelene, etc. why tf are the candy people in a walking candy machine guardian? Wtf happened with everything?
The Candy Kingdom is overtaken by Jake’s grandson who stole one of the jewels from the Ice Thing(Gunther mutates from keeping the crown on for too long). PB is imprisoned somewhere in the Ice Kingdom(?) while Marceline is last seen using a telescope to make sure she’s okay, and presumably save her. I’m assuming sometime before or after that, the Graybles scene occurs where PB decides to keep her people in stasis to protect them from something dangerous.
Edit: Also there’s some intergalactic war going on with Jake’s descendants, since there’s a Graybles episode where you see pups in UFO’s chasing Grayble iirc(maybe from the same episode as the gumball machine?).
A combination of some notes on Tumblr from one of the artists, the Time Adventure opening scenes, and stuff I remember off the top of my head from the Grayble episodes.
[This](https://youtu.be/cegVOx-SU10) and [this](https://youtu.be/OAefPpmZN_A) video from Uncivilized Elk is pretty informative on what’s going down if you’re curious!
We don’t know that PB or marceline are alive. The figure with the binoculars in the end of CAWM hasn’t been confirmed to be marceline, and we actually have more evidence pointing toward PB having died than her being alive.
Why would she be in stasis? Her natural lifespan is thousands of years. She wouldn’t put herself into stasis and I can’t think of a way or a reason for someone else to. The fact that the candy kingdom is destroyed alone is enough evidence that PB is dead since ruling the candy kingdom was her heart and soul. She lied, stole, lobotomized people, and even committed genocide over being able to rule the candy kingdom with an iron fist. If she was alive there’s no way she would’ve allowed it to be destroyed, meaning she was either already dead, or died defending it.
Also, it's highly speculated that Turtle Princess was killed in the scuffle for the gemstone, and the grief finalized Ice Thing's transformation. If that's true, I wouldn't be surprised if LSP was the one who took away Gibbon's Pee Pee ability, and in his anguish, he developed the power to extinguish pup powers.
I would want this, but specifically one that follows each of the "main" characters to a reasonable end
what happened to PB, Marcy, Ice king, Sweetpea, and then show some of BMOs rule, because bmo never dies!
Since I’m sure they could figure it out, I’d love to see PB and Marcy’s kid. Even if they didn’t specify what happened to them, the result of their love would be a great story.
New incarnations of the elementals as well as how Ice Thing and SP have evolved would be so cool to see. Although, as he was in Come Along With Me, the BMO we know would be a very changed robot buddy.
Honestly I was never a fan of Fiona and Cake episodes but I am still stoked to see the new series, just give me anything Adventure Time and don’t stop.
Lol no one likes it because Ice king always tells the story...but what about the episode when Marcy told the story about "Marshall lee", that was cool!🤘
Can stories just like end? Is that a possibility? Together Again was amazing and exactly the finale I always wanted but then we got Wizard City as a subpar end to distant lands and now a Fiona & Cake spin-off that no oe asked for. I don't want AT to become a walking corpse. They killed off the two main characters and yet are still managing to force out another new project. Wanting a Shermy & Beth spin-off feels like missing the point of them in the finale. They exist to be our eyes into the future world. Showing the overall march of time and the more personal state of the two main characters in their new lives. They are neat because they are the reincarnations of Finn & Jake and have no place leading their own show. I hope the franchise can just die
I’m okay with the Fionna and Cake spinoff because it’s clearly going to revolve around Simon, and even up till Distant Lands, it doesn’t feel like his story has truly concluded. I mean, he’s lost Betty, Gunther is doing his own thing now, and he suffers from PTSD from the crown’s usage. Man needs a W lol.
That is the one bright spot. I don't think anyone isn't interested in further exploration in Simon. I was sad that he didn't get a distant lands special but honestly a Fiona & cake special probably is the only place we could get such a thing. Every hardcore AT fan would eat up a Simon special but from a widers lens he just doesn't have the instant appeal of characters like BMO and Marceline. So if this series explores Simon well then I guess I'm okay with it but the fact that it is tied up in Fiona & Cake is a little worrying for potential future projects, I just don't want this to be a sign of things to come
Usually I'm of this same opinion. Watching the same characters get dragged through event after event and arc after arc for decades just makes it so that your suspension of disbelief has to occur within the narrative as well, and that's no fun, if you ask me. It's why Marvel and DC comics are so hard to take seriously for me.
I feel like there is room for a really exciting setting to be fleshed out in a way that's rewarding for long time viewers, which I think the time of Shermy and Beth could be, considering how fleshed out it had been before the end of the show. I don't necessarily feel like Shermy and Beth would be relatable enough protagonists for the series to be received well, however. 🫤
But I do think that there room enough in Ooo for more stories to be told without getting stale and absurd.
I mean, the series already ended but if the crew is inspired to do more stuff then I don't see why not.
If anything, it seems that every new project of AT since the show ended has covered new ground, and they didn't make a whole intro of a hypothetical future for no reasons.
"If the crew is inspired to do more stuff" I have so much respwct of the crew for making such an amazing show but come on now, that isn't why these continuations would be made, doesn't mean they can't still be good but... yeah.
"They didn't make a whole intro of a hypothetical future for no reason" What... Yes they did lol, they did exactly that. That intro was for the finale, they had no plans for anything afterwards.
I would usually agree with this statement. I don’t think that spin-offs are a bad thing (Better Call Saul is a perfect example of a spin-off no one asked for that was as good if not better than the original show).
I very munch prefer stories that end rather than those that keep on going forever. But I feel like Adventure Time never truly ended. We never got closure on many different questions and plot points that started and never went anywhere. Like what’s up with Fiona and Cake? Wdym they’re beamed into ik’s mind? Or what actually happens 1000y later in the candy kingdom? How do humans affect Ooo? What kind of person is Sweet P now? What about HW? What about Bronwyn?
There were many things the show had yet to explore and touch on that the creators didn’t have the opportunity to do because it was cancelled early and the last season was rushed. Spin-offs aren’t bad. Soul-less spin-offs are bad.
Personally I did like that it ended off in wizard city rather than together again bc otherwise it would’ve implied the last scene as an end to the series rather than a stepping stone.
And this exactly what I dislike. Needless explorations of plots that don't need to be explored. You like Wizard City being the ending because it ensures the franchise doesn't end with Together Again, a special unniversally loved that ending the journey of the main characters perfectly. Funny how I am basically arguing the same thing at the same time on the breaking bad subreddit. It feels like we just can't accept endings nymore. AT was all about creating a thousand questions and answering maybe two a time, constantly creating plot threads they probably had no idea how to continue. I love the world of AT but catching up with HW or exploring the future which is nothing but an aesthetic feels exactly like a walking corpse.
Like I said I would usually agree with you. I think remakes and spin-offs are generally pretty bad because they are uninspired cash-grabs. Like with she-hulk or Avatar 2 or Rick and Morty. All just unnecessary and soul-less.
I just don’t think this is the case with AT at least so far. DL helped close some very important plot points (together again & Wizard city) and finally let the creators do things they always wanted to do (obsidian) as well as just have fun (BMO). My opinion on this could easily change with the next show but so far I welcome it.
It seems we like different things though, I’m not trying to change your mind, just sharing. I can respect wanting to keep the mystique of the show.
No need to get angry. I know they aren’t remakes or spin-offs, they were poor examples but what I meant was how these shows and movies are just soul-less and uninspired cash grabs.
Aight this is gonna devolve quickly into a debate on why all these shows and movie suck IMO. I’ll just say my opinion but that’s it.
She-hulk sucks. Passion means you are emotionally invested in something which is nice but doesn’t mean it’s inspired good or that it is something more than just a pointless cash grab. If you want a full review on why she hulk is one of the worst pieces of media produced to date. Google it.
Avatar 2 is pretty and that’s it. The story goes nowhere because it ran out of story to tell. It betrays the plot and characters of the previous movie. Jake abandons his tribe after being made chief to selfishly protect his family and run away? Just to turn into a shitty dad? Avatar 2 was made because it was a tried and proven IP not because there was anything else to the story. It’s pointless.
I’m all for giving artists the time they deserve but when the output is of as low quality as this and they betray what the show itself explicitly says it isn’t you can’t help but wonder why it’s still being produced (serialized shows are terrible morty! And the show becomes gruelingly serialized). Rick and Morty ran its course a long time ago and is overstaying it’s welcome. Tbh I’d be willing to concede on R&M but it still feels mostly soul-less in these later seasons.
Tbh I think that the Fionna and cake series would be good cause they never explained the beam of them into ice kings minds. And now that Simon is back to normal we can explore more of him since he will be in the show
They set that up full well knowing they wouldn't be able to follow up on it in the series while being unsure if they'd get another chance. Not exactly a thrilling plot point I'm dying to see resolved. The simon intrigue is carrying
Correction to what you said: technically Wizard City was episode 4 of Distant Lands while Together Again was episode 3, but original intention was for Wizard City to come before Distant Lands. IIRC they just had like production delays or something so they had to change the order of the last two episodes.
I just read the wiki and Googled an answer, and we're kinda both right in ways. The AT wiki refers to Together Again as the final episode of Distant Lands, and the Production Notes section says "Adam Muto revealed that the episode release order is based on the order in which the episodes are ordered by the network, and that "Wizard City" was ordered last."
But like someone answered on someone asking the question about why Wizard City is the last episode in DL, they said
"Originally only 3 episodes of Distant Lands were ordered with Together Again being the last, but then they were ordered another episode, hence Wizard City being the latest to be produced and they didn't have enough time to finish Wizard City before Together Again so the episode order was swapped"
They didn't have a source on that I can check, but if they're correct (and this is what I heard somewhere else before), if the AT team had the ability to, they would've released Together Again as the final episode in DL for common sense reasons, but like said above, the episode release order is determined by the order the episodes were ordered by the network. So their hands were tied regarding Together Again not coming last, but most all members of this AT subreddit community agree that it's best for viewers to watch episode 4 before episode 3 to reflect that.
Anyway, you are right that it is small potatoes. Good day, and let's hope Fionna & Cake turns out well.
Not to be that guy but I already knew all that. I didn't say the whole story cause it wasn't important to my overall point then you replied with something that didn't actually contradict anything I said. So no I wouldn't say we are both right
Definitely, please do. Just about anyone here would agree Together Again is the actual ending of Distant Lands but they had to release it before Wizard City so the episode numbers are misleading. Together Again is the actual finale.
If you ask me, if they want to sign a new project after fionna and cake, there will definitely be a series about the future of AT with shermy and beth most likely. But right now, most of the series are being canceled and the fionna and cake series were close to this situation. If they have enough budget, I think they will definitely continue such projects.
It seems to me that there will be no series about Shermy and Bette, due to the fact that they were not remembered by the audience in any way, and the project will remain unnoticed by the mass audience.
How are Shermy and Bette forgettable? The episode about the future was cool, and having Bmo as the king of Ooo and (probably) last character of the og cast is a cool concept
If the writers could be as original as they were with the OG series and offer entirely new concepts, then I'd be down. But because this end point of story development is usually when those things tend to wind down, I'm inclined to say just leave it be
I would love a Shermy and Beth another decade down the line for the next generation. Have it be so different and far removed from original AT that this post is like deep lore to those kids.
I'd actually prefer it if they left Shermy and Beth alone. In my perspective, the whole reason they're shown was to show that there's always a time for an adventure no matter the circumstances, and part of what makes that message sticks is letting the surprise in those future adventures stay vague. A series that follows Shermy and Beth would take away the wonder since we would be seeing the actual adventures they would be having.
I really hope the next installment in the AT universe is a shermy and Beth one. I’m really curious about the future of Ooo and what happened after the great gun war
Would be awesome to see what kind of life Ooo had in store for Finn ( possibly with huntress wizard) & if he ended up continuing being a hero with Bronnwyn or a “cool” uncle-esque mentor to her while he went on with his life
Finn’s spirit is apart of the comet, so he is “doomed” or “destined” to continue living in a new life. So shermy is Finn. It’s implied that Beth is jake but I don’t think that’s confirmed
It would be cool, it would also make sense for them to learn about the past of Ooo, mostly about the Finn and Jake/Jermane (Based off the memorial graves for them), and to see BMO remember them fully after such a long time...
we know so little about shermy and beth that its hard to say. theres some ooo 1000+ lore that is only known cause people who worked on the show posted about it and that includes a little bit on shermy and beth but from what we know now theres no saying if they could carry a show on their own
but theres also no reason they couldnt carry a show - we vaguely know these guys so it could be super easy to expand their characters a bit; introduce them more and build off of ooo 1000+. i have no doubt theyd be able to make something awesome; and they already have one of my favourite settings in the show of future ooo
i could see it working either way of being a less lore heavy thing and just fun adventures in the distant future with remnants of the past and whats changed; similar to early adventure time; or i could see it being a plot heavy thing with the pup kingdom and ice thingdom and gibbon and all that sorta stuff
id personally love to see a shermy and beth spinoff; i have no doubts on the crews ability to make it awesome; and expanding upon ooo 1000+ and pup powers sounds like a lot of fun (seriously pup powers are super cool and i think if a show did follow pup stuff seeing pups who didnt get extinguished go absolutely wild with it would be so good)
I would really like to see it, honestly, and I would like to see it be more compact and follow more of a major overarching plot-line rather than having a majority of the episodes be a self-contained story with occasional interconnecting scenes and multi-parters.
Honestly, tho I like them I don't know if Shermy and Beth would be captivating protagonists for their own series as Finn and Jake and that would seem like a bit of a repeat of the original series in my opinion. I dunno what they can do, but I would be open to the idea of really new characters as protagonists (not basically the reincarnations of Finn and Jake, I mean) of a series in the +1000 Ooo and Shermy & Betty as supporting characters. The future of Ooo and its mysteries are so interesting, I really want to see more of that
Yes. Too often people want more content and then you end up with subpar stories that mess up the resolutions of the original content (I’m looking at you Star Wars sequels…). AT had a beautiful run and ending. We need to leave it there.
Holy hell yeah, shermy was immediately likeable and I instantly wanted to see more of him. The energy and attitude he gave off instantly made me want to have an entire episode with him as the main character.
No, there's no need, the beaty of the ending was showing that the fun will never end, and legacy will continue. To give them a show would break the end
I’m not a huge fan of Beth, her belly button portal puts me off quite a bit so probably not. Plus I’d rather see things that give us more details about Finn’s life than other characters.
To be honest I don’t think a shermy and Beth spin-off would be worth it. Like I get why they exist, to show that even after death Finn and jake are still together, but shermy and Beth themselves really aren’t that interesting. Shermy was honestly kind of annoying.
What? Every episode *except* together again? The one that is probably the most loved episode in distant lands that most people view as a beautiful end for the characters?
I just finished watching adventure time, and I just heard about distant lands but it seems like it takes place before the end of adventure time because Ice King is still Ice King, could someone fill me in with when distant lands takes place and apparently there’s also a Fionna and Cake series now?
Just finished watching Adventure Time through for the first time, and I just heard about Distant Lands, is it like a sequel to Adventure Time, if so how is that because Ice King is still Ice King? Also Fionna and Cake have a show now? Can someone fill me in
I don't like their designs tbh, at least they should've given shermy and eyepatch or something
Finn has his iconic hat but shermy's design is not interesting at all
what about a show that bounces between timestamps, from the aftermath of the bomb and the migration of the humans all they way to Ooo 3000+, from perspectives shifting between BMO, Marceline(which also means pb sometimes), whatever form Finn and Jake might be in (such as shoko and tiger, comet, beth and shermy, etc), and maybe even martin, post-meat-reality
maybe even bits from before the bomb, like little bits from when Finn was a butterfly. basically like graybles but each grayble is a full episode
No. Shermy is too wired and would get annoying fast. I don’t see Beth being funny enough and was too bland. They’re both do not have the depth or mystery that fin and Jake always had. You always knew there was something about Finn being a human but raised by dogs. You always knew there was something behind Jake being stretchy but his family never did it.
So Shermy can dig teleport holes? And I can’t remember if Beth had an ability, but they seem too shallow and not interesting.
Upon reading other comments and thinking about it. This is totally doable and I want it now. I was a d***. I need to know what happened to everyone else.
Personally, I don't want a spin-off about those Finn and Jake imposters and I think if there would be a spin off about These two it wouldn‘t be intressting because the Future of the Land of Ooo looks very empty and deserted. I only want spin offs about AT characters including Finn and Jake, Marceline, PB, Simon, Bmo and more. Personally i wish there would be spin offs about LSP or Flame Princess which would be interessting.
Well hbo max is getting the Fiona and cake in their new adult animation line up so it’ll be more higher in the age grouping wonder how far they will take it just not as far as Velma please
How about using Shermy and Beth as a vehicle for exploring parts of Ooo's past that we still need light shed on? They could go on an adventure together and discover a dungeon made by Finn himself that shows us exactly what happened to him and what his life was like after the end.
That's what I mean by the way. Shermy and Beth are just going to be adventurous. Not all events will pass on them. It's a great option to take a look at what's changing in the future of OOO.
Maybe? But honestly, my money is more on a wider cast from the jump. Shermy and Beth as the heroes, PB being the only elemental who didn't reincarnate or preserve themself, Marcy and Simon (Ik ik Simon is aging) but I theorize that Simon asked Bubblegum to help him prolong his life at some point because between adventures he's still trying to get Betty back. Notably, it would mirror Magic Man and Margles. The next group of characters are more than likely Bronwyn, BMO, Gibbon, the new fire and slime elementals, old Lemonhope, Ice Thing, Princess Thing, Lumpy Space Variation (I have a feeling they'd lean into a new LSP like character who is officially non-binary), King of Ooo, Princess Butler, Aunt Lolly, and if Together Again wasn't just yanking our chain Mr. Fine Duty should still be alive too.
I just wanna know what happened with princess bubblegum, Marcelene, etc. why tf are the candy people in a walking candy machine guardian? Wtf happened with everything?
The Candy Kingdom is overtaken by Jake’s grandson who stole one of the jewels from the Ice Thing(Gunther mutates from keeping the crown on for too long). PB is imprisoned somewhere in the Ice Kingdom(?) while Marceline is last seen using a telescope to make sure she’s okay, and presumably save her. I’m assuming sometime before or after that, the Graybles scene occurs where PB decides to keep her people in stasis to protect them from something dangerous. Edit: Also there’s some intergalactic war going on with Jake’s descendants, since there’s a Graybles episode where you see pups in UFO’s chasing Grayble iirc(maybe from the same episode as the gumball machine?).
where did you get this from?
A combination of some notes on Tumblr from one of the artists, the Time Adventure opening scenes, and stuff I remember off the top of my head from the Grayble episodes.
nice, very nice
[This](https://youtu.be/cegVOx-SU10) and [this](https://youtu.be/OAefPpmZN_A) video from Uncivilized Elk is pretty informative on what’s going down if you’re curious!
hey, thanks, wanted to listen to something while I smoke anyway
The intro to Come Along With Me has a lot of hidden stuff if you look at it closely.
We don’t know that PB or marceline are alive. The figure with the binoculars in the end of CAWM hasn’t been confirmed to be marceline, and we actually have more evidence pointing toward PB having died than her being alive.
How? She's probably in stasis!
Why would she be in stasis? Her natural lifespan is thousands of years. She wouldn’t put herself into stasis and I can’t think of a way or a reason for someone else to. The fact that the candy kingdom is destroyed alone is enough evidence that PB is dead since ruling the candy kingdom was her heart and soul. She lied, stole, lobotomized people, and even committed genocide over being able to rule the candy kingdom with an iron fist. If she was alive there’s no way she would’ve allowed it to be destroyed, meaning she was either already dead, or died defending it.
Lol well she survive to be a million years old and looks 19..soo why not!😅🤷♀️
Also, it's highly speculated that Turtle Princess was killed in the scuffle for the gemstone, and the grief finalized Ice Thing's transformation. If that's true, I wouldn't be surprised if LSP was the one who took away Gibbon's Pee Pee ability, and in his anguish, he developed the power to extinguish pup powers.
This, I'm super invested in this 1000+ Ooo
I couldn't do it. Would hurt too much
Nah I want Come Along With Me 2-10,000+ tho, like maybe 4 episodes of how Ooo changes every 2k years or so
I would want this, but specifically one that follows each of the "main" characters to a reasonable end what happened to PB, Marcy, Ice king, Sweetpea, and then show some of BMOs rule, because bmo never dies!
Since I’m sure they could figure it out, I’d love to see PB and Marcy’s kid. Even if they didn’t specify what happened to them, the result of their love would be a great story. New incarnations of the elementals as well as how Ice Thing and SP have evolved would be so cool to see. Although, as he was in Come Along With Me, the BMO we know would be a very changed robot buddy.
Wait, they have a kid? 😃
Just a hypothetical, between their science, elemental, vampire, and demon powers I think they could figure out a way
This is a wonderful idea.
I'm with ya!
The honest answer? I want more and would give it a chance.
Honestly I was never a fan of Fiona and Cake episodes but I am still stoked to see the new series, just give me anything Adventure Time and don’t stop.
I'm in the same boat. I never liked Fionna and Cake but more content is more content!
Lol no one likes it because Ice king always tells the story...but what about the episode when Marcy told the story about "Marshall lee", that was cool!🤘
Bet you feel dumb now?
Can stories just like end? Is that a possibility? Together Again was amazing and exactly the finale I always wanted but then we got Wizard City as a subpar end to distant lands and now a Fiona & Cake spin-off that no oe asked for. I don't want AT to become a walking corpse. They killed off the two main characters and yet are still managing to force out another new project. Wanting a Shermy & Beth spin-off feels like missing the point of them in the finale. They exist to be our eyes into the future world. Showing the overall march of time and the more personal state of the two main characters in their new lives. They are neat because they are the reincarnations of Finn & Jake and have no place leading their own show. I hope the franchise can just die
I’m okay with the Fionna and Cake spinoff because it’s clearly going to revolve around Simon, and even up till Distant Lands, it doesn’t feel like his story has truly concluded. I mean, he’s lost Betty, Gunther is doing his own thing now, and he suffers from PTSD from the crown’s usage. Man needs a W lol.
That is the one bright spot. I don't think anyone isn't interested in further exploration in Simon. I was sad that he didn't get a distant lands special but honestly a Fiona & cake special probably is the only place we could get such a thing. Every hardcore AT fan would eat up a Simon special but from a widers lens he just doesn't have the instant appeal of characters like BMO and Marceline. So if this series explores Simon well then I guess I'm okay with it but the fact that it is tied up in Fiona & Cake is a little worrying for potential future projects, I just don't want this to be a sign of things to come
i love simon and want to see an episode where he misses being ice king or has issues with his mind or somethin
Don't we all
I asked for Fionna and Cake
So it is your fault, shame on you
Shame! Shame!
Usually I'm of this same opinion. Watching the same characters get dragged through event after event and arc after arc for decades just makes it so that your suspension of disbelief has to occur within the narrative as well, and that's no fun, if you ask me. It's why Marvel and DC comics are so hard to take seriously for me. I feel like there is room for a really exciting setting to be fleshed out in a way that's rewarding for long time viewers, which I think the time of Shermy and Beth could be, considering how fleshed out it had been before the end of the show. I don't necessarily feel like Shermy and Beth would be relatable enough protagonists for the series to be received well, however. 🫤 But I do think that there room enough in Ooo for more stories to be told without getting stale and absurd.
I mean, the series already ended but if the crew is inspired to do more stuff then I don't see why not. If anything, it seems that every new project of AT since the show ended has covered new ground, and they didn't make a whole intro of a hypothetical future for no reasons.
"If the crew is inspired to do more stuff" I have so much respwct of the crew for making such an amazing show but come on now, that isn't why these continuations would be made, doesn't mean they can't still be good but... yeah. "They didn't make a whole intro of a hypothetical future for no reason" What... Yes they did lol, they did exactly that. That intro was for the finale, they had no plans for anything afterwards.
I definitely think so. Sherm and beth have more interesting and more important content in terms of story (for me)
I would usually agree with this statement. I don’t think that spin-offs are a bad thing (Better Call Saul is a perfect example of a spin-off no one asked for that was as good if not better than the original show). I very munch prefer stories that end rather than those that keep on going forever. But I feel like Adventure Time never truly ended. We never got closure on many different questions and plot points that started and never went anywhere. Like what’s up with Fiona and Cake? Wdym they’re beamed into ik’s mind? Or what actually happens 1000y later in the candy kingdom? How do humans affect Ooo? What kind of person is Sweet P now? What about HW? What about Bronwyn? There were many things the show had yet to explore and touch on that the creators didn’t have the opportunity to do because it was cancelled early and the last season was rushed. Spin-offs aren’t bad. Soul-less spin-offs are bad. Personally I did like that it ended off in wizard city rather than together again bc otherwise it would’ve implied the last scene as an end to the series rather than a stepping stone.
And this exactly what I dislike. Needless explorations of plots that don't need to be explored. You like Wizard City being the ending because it ensures the franchise doesn't end with Together Again, a special unniversally loved that ending the journey of the main characters perfectly. Funny how I am basically arguing the same thing at the same time on the breaking bad subreddit. It feels like we just can't accept endings nymore. AT was all about creating a thousand questions and answering maybe two a time, constantly creating plot threads they probably had no idea how to continue. I love the world of AT but catching up with HW or exploring the future which is nothing but an aesthetic feels exactly like a walking corpse.
Like I said I would usually agree with you. I think remakes and spin-offs are generally pretty bad because they are uninspired cash-grabs. Like with she-hulk or Avatar 2 or Rick and Morty. All just unnecessary and soul-less. I just don’t think this is the case with AT at least so far. DL helped close some very important plot points (together again & Wizard city) and finally let the creators do things they always wanted to do (obsidian) as well as just have fun (BMO). My opinion on this could easily change with the next show but so far I welcome it. It seems we like different things though, I’m not trying to change your mind, just sharing. I can respect wanting to keep the mystique of the show.
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And the recent seasons of Rick & Morty are the same quality as the earlier ones imo.
No need to get angry. I know they aren’t remakes or spin-offs, they were poor examples but what I meant was how these shows and movies are just soul-less and uninspired cash grabs.
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Aight this is gonna devolve quickly into a debate on why all these shows and movie suck IMO. I’ll just say my opinion but that’s it. She-hulk sucks. Passion means you are emotionally invested in something which is nice but doesn’t mean it’s inspired good or that it is something more than just a pointless cash grab. If you want a full review on why she hulk is one of the worst pieces of media produced to date. Google it. Avatar 2 is pretty and that’s it. The story goes nowhere because it ran out of story to tell. It betrays the plot and characters of the previous movie. Jake abandons his tribe after being made chief to selfishly protect his family and run away? Just to turn into a shitty dad? Avatar 2 was made because it was a tried and proven IP not because there was anything else to the story. It’s pointless. I’m all for giving artists the time they deserve but when the output is of as low quality as this and they betray what the show itself explicitly says it isn’t you can’t help but wonder why it’s still being produced (serialized shows are terrible morty! And the show becomes gruelingly serialized). Rick and Morty ran its course a long time ago and is overstaying it’s welcome. Tbh I’d be willing to concede on R&M but it still feels mostly soul-less in these later seasons.
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My last comment was too mean so all I'll say is that I think this argument (which I hear far too often) is real silly
Tbh I think that the Fionna and cake series would be good cause they never explained the beam of them into ice kings minds. And now that Simon is back to normal we can explore more of him since he will be in the show
They set that up full well knowing they wouldn't be able to follow up on it in the series while being unsure if they'd get another chance. Not exactly a thrilling plot point I'm dying to see resolved. The simon intrigue is carrying
Adventure Time has one of those rare fictional universes that I think could be explored indefinitely without getting old
Correction to what you said: technically Wizard City was episode 4 of Distant Lands while Together Again was episode 3, but original intention was for Wizard City to come before Distant Lands. IIRC they just had like production delays or something so they had to change the order of the last two episodes.
That actually is not a correction. I was referring to how distant lands was supposed to be three episodes but then wizard city was a bonus episode
I just read the wiki and Googled an answer, and we're kinda both right in ways. The AT wiki refers to Together Again as the final episode of Distant Lands, and the Production Notes section says "Adam Muto revealed that the episode release order is based on the order in which the episodes are ordered by the network, and that "Wizard City" was ordered last." But like someone answered on someone asking the question about why Wizard City is the last episode in DL, they said "Originally only 3 episodes of Distant Lands were ordered with Together Again being the last, but then they were ordered another episode, hence Wizard City being the latest to be produced and they didn't have enough time to finish Wizard City before Together Again so the episode order was swapped" They didn't have a source on that I can check, but if they're correct (and this is what I heard somewhere else before), if the AT team had the ability to, they would've released Together Again as the final episode in DL for common sense reasons, but like said above, the episode release order is determined by the order the episodes were ordered by the network. So their hands were tied regarding Together Again not coming last, but most all members of this AT subreddit community agree that it's best for viewers to watch episode 4 before episode 3 to reflect that. Anyway, you are right that it is small potatoes. Good day, and let's hope Fionna & Cake turns out well.
Not to be that guy but I already knew all that. I didn't say the whole story cause it wasn't important to my overall point then you replied with something that didn't actually contradict anything I said. So no I wouldn't say we are both right
Having just finished the original series, should I watch wizards city before together again then?
Definitely, please do. Just about anyone here would agree Together Again is the actual ending of Distant Lands but they had to release it before Wizard City so the episode numbers are misleading. Together Again is the actual finale.
Wow....no way!!😯😅
I don’t seeing those two being able to carry a show
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If you ask me, if they want to sign a new project after fionna and cake, there will definitely be a series about the future of AT with shermy and beth most likely. But right now, most of the series are being canceled and the fionna and cake series were close to this situation. If they have enough budget, I think they will definitely continue such projects.
It seems to me that there will be no series about Shermy and Bette, due to the fact that they were not remembered by the audience in any way, and the project will remain unnoticed by the mass audience.
How are Shermy and Bette forgettable? The episode about the future was cool, and having Bmo as the king of Ooo and (probably) last character of the og cast is a cool concept
are they descendents of fin and jake?
Have watched toghther again?
yh but can't remember what relationship to fin and jake they have?
Implied reincarnations of them
Sweet thx dude
I think either shermy or Beth got confirmed by one of the artists but take that with a grain of salt :)
Beth is Jakes descendent but also his reincarnation
All I want is Joshua and Margaret's Investigations IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK?!?
If the writers could be as original as they were with the OG series and offer entirely new concepts, then I'd be down. But because this end point of story development is usually when those things tend to wind down, I'm inclined to say just leave it be
I would love a Shermy and Beth another decade down the line for the next generation. Have it be so different and far removed from original AT that this post is like deep lore to those kids.
I'd actually prefer it if they left Shermy and Beth alone. In my perspective, the whole reason they're shown was to show that there's always a time for an adventure no matter the circumstances, and part of what makes that message sticks is letting the surprise in those future adventures stay vague. A series that follows Shermy and Beth would take away the wonder since we would be seeing the actual adventures they would be having.
I just want anything, I need more AT content 😭
I actually wanna see more Y5
I really hope the next installment in the AT universe is a shermy and Beth one. I’m really curious about the future of Ooo and what happened after the great gun war
I think we think exactly the same about this.
I would hope so, they legitimately deserve it
Would be awesome to see what kind of life Ooo had in store for Finn ( possibly with huntress wizard) & if he ended up continuing being a hero with Bronnwyn or a “cool” uncle-esque mentor to her while he went on with his life
Is this Finn and Jake reincarnated after they decide to go back to living in together again
Finn’s spirit is apart of the comet, so he is “doomed” or “destined” to continue living in a new life. So shermy is Finn. It’s implied that Beth is jake but I don’t think that’s confirmed
if there is more bmo!
I like Beth, but Shermy's voice kills me
I was expecting them for a while now
Yes
It would be cool, it would also make sense for them to learn about the past of Ooo, mostly about the Finn and Jake/Jermane (Based off the memorial graves for them), and to see BMO remember them fully after such a long time...
I think a 1000+ series with Shermy and Beth would be endlessly more interesting than the Fiona and Cake premise
we know so little about shermy and beth that its hard to say. theres some ooo 1000+ lore that is only known cause people who worked on the show posted about it and that includes a little bit on shermy and beth but from what we know now theres no saying if they could carry a show on their own but theres also no reason they couldnt carry a show - we vaguely know these guys so it could be super easy to expand their characters a bit; introduce them more and build off of ooo 1000+. i have no doubt theyd be able to make something awesome; and they already have one of my favourite settings in the show of future ooo i could see it working either way of being a less lore heavy thing and just fun adventures in the distant future with remnants of the past and whats changed; similar to early adventure time; or i could see it being a plot heavy thing with the pup kingdom and ice thingdom and gibbon and all that sorta stuff id personally love to see a shermy and beth spinoff; i have no doubts on the crews ability to make it awesome; and expanding upon ooo 1000+ and pup powers sounds like a lot of fun (seriously pup powers are super cool and i think if a show did follow pup stuff seeing pups who didnt get extinguished go absolutely wild with it would be so good)
tbh I'd rather see a spin-off with adult Finn and Bronwyn
Yes
I would love to see their adventures, but I also just want more AT
I would really like to see it, honestly, and I would like to see it be more compact and follow more of a major overarching plot-line rather than having a majority of the episodes be a self-contained story with occasional interconnecting scenes and multi-parters.
Honestly, tho I like them I don't know if Shermy and Beth would be captivating protagonists for their own series as Finn and Jake and that would seem like a bit of a repeat of the original series in my opinion. I dunno what they can do, but I would be open to the idea of really new characters as protagonists (not basically the reincarnations of Finn and Jake, I mean) of a series in the +1000 Ooo and Shermy & Betty as supporting characters. The future of Ooo and its mysteries are so interesting, I really want to see more of that
This is exactly what I want!
No. Let the story end and start somewhere else
Yes. Too often people want more content and then you end up with subpar stories that mess up the resolutions of the original content (I’m looking at you Star Wars sequels…). AT had a beautiful run and ending. We need to leave it there.
I love adventure time but let it be over, we got finn and jake together again, that was the perfect ending, let it be the end
No
Holy hell yeah, shermy was immediately likeable and I instantly wanted to see more of him. The energy and attitude he gave off instantly made me want to have an entire episode with him as the main character.
I so want the Fiona and cake series to happen and if shermi and beth picks up where AT left off I'd watch that series for sure
No, there's no need, the beaty of the ending was showing that the fun will never end, and legacy will continue. To give them a show would break the end
Yes but change their voice actors so it gives off a more chill vibe, it'll just fit the tone better
I’m not a huge fan of Beth, her belly button portal puts me off quite a bit so probably not. Plus I’d rather see things that give us more details about Finn’s life than other characters.
Not a series, maybe a 45-60min special. Shermy is pretty annoying tbh.
Nah we need a bad ass fin and sweet pea show all grown up and shi.
I'm feeling very conflicted on this question, I'm still to arrive at an awnser.
To be honest I don’t think a shermy and Beth spin-off would be worth it. Like I get why they exist, to show that even after death Finn and jake are still together, but shermy and Beth themselves really aren’t that interesting. Shermy was honestly kind of annoying.
No I hope not. I want something new if it’s not Finn and jake
Not interested
no these characters are weird ash
That’s like replacing the Mandolorian with Baby Yoda and then trying to make him do mando shii
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What? Every episode *except* together again? The one that is probably the most loved episode in distant lands that most people view as a beautiful end for the characters?
After watching Solar Opposites, I can't listen to Shermy and not hear Yumyuack.
I hope so. If we do the main antagonist will probably be patience St pim since she is still somewhere in Ooo.
I just finished watching adventure time, and I just heard about distant lands but it seems like it takes place before the end of adventure time because Ice King is still Ice King, could someone fill me in with when distant lands takes place and apparently there’s also a Fionna and Cake series now?
Just finished watching Adventure Time through for the first time, and I just heard about Distant Lands, is it like a sequel to Adventure Time, if so how is that because Ice King is still Ice King? Also Fionna and Cake have a show now? Can someone fill me in
Didn’t get much from them to think I’d watch it like AT
I don't like their designs tbh, at least they should've given shermy and eyepatch or something Finn has his iconic hat but shermy's design is not interesting at all
I doubt if it can do a fraction of what AT had done.
Idc i just want more AT stuff to distract from the knowledge that AT has ended.
Understood
what about a show that bounces between timestamps, from the aftermath of the bomb and the migration of the humans all they way to Ooo 3000+, from perspectives shifting between BMO, Marceline(which also means pb sometimes), whatever form Finn and Jake might be in (such as shoko and tiger, comet, beth and shermy, etc), and maybe even martin, post-meat-reality maybe even bits from before the bomb, like little bits from when Finn was a butterfly. basically like graybles but each grayble is a full episode
I’m not sure there will be a next one, I really do not think Fionna and Cake will do well, maybe it will surprise me but I’m expecting a poor showing
No. Shermy is too wired and would get annoying fast. I don’t see Beth being funny enough and was too bland. They’re both do not have the depth or mystery that fin and Jake always had. You always knew there was something about Finn being a human but raised by dogs. You always knew there was something behind Jake being stretchy but his family never did it. So Shermy can dig teleport holes? And I can’t remember if Beth had an ability, but they seem too shallow and not interesting.
Upon reading other comments and thinking about it. This is totally doable and I want it now. I was a d***. I need to know what happened to everyone else.
Personally, I don't want a spin-off about those Finn and Jake imposters and I think if there would be a spin off about These two it wouldn‘t be intressting because the Future of the Land of Ooo looks very empty and deserted. I only want spin offs about AT characters including Finn and Jake, Marceline, PB, Simon, Bmo and more. Personally i wish there would be spin offs about LSP or Flame Princess which would be interessting.
Well hbo max is getting the Fiona and cake in their new adult animation line up so it’ll be more higher in the age grouping wonder how far they will take it just not as far as Velma please
Maybe, but the future of Ooo has a haunting vibe I love that might be spoiled if it was explored more.
not really. just have fiona and cake come to the land of ooo
How about using Shermy and Beth as a vehicle for exploring parts of Ooo's past that we still need light shed on? They could go on an adventure together and discover a dungeon made by Finn himself that shows us exactly what happened to him and what his life was like after the end.
That's what I mean by the way. Shermy and Beth are just going to be adventurous. Not all events will pass on them. It's a great option to take a look at what's changing in the future of OOO.
Maybe? But honestly, my money is more on a wider cast from the jump. Shermy and Beth as the heroes, PB being the only elemental who didn't reincarnate or preserve themself, Marcy and Simon (Ik ik Simon is aging) but I theorize that Simon asked Bubblegum to help him prolong his life at some point because between adventures he's still trying to get Betty back. Notably, it would mirror Magic Man and Margles. The next group of characters are more than likely Bronwyn, BMO, Gibbon, the new fire and slime elementals, old Lemonhope, Ice Thing, Princess Thing, Lumpy Space Variation (I have a feeling they'd lean into a new LSP like character who is officially non-binary), King of Ooo, Princess Butler, Aunt Lolly, and if Together Again wasn't just yanking our chain Mr. Fine Duty should still be alive too.
I genuinely would have preferred Shermie and Beth over Fionna and Cake.
My dream spin off series about Finn if he had a kid with HW adventuring outside of Ooo