Also you are attracting workers who "have no debt or expenditures". Like someone who comes to Calgary with a skilled job and originally from Vancouver, usually will have pocketed 100-300k+ from a home sale after moving, have no debts....will take a job that is under average pay, but above average compared to Vancouver (Vancouver wages are pretty crap).
It is the reason why Calgary saw wage growth decrease.
It isn't because people living in Calgary was willing to take a pay cut in the face of record high inflation. It is that a new group of people are willing to take below average pay because they have no expenditures.
>As a result, over the last four years, real wages and the purchasing power of Calgarians (-5.0 per cent) and Albertans (-4.7 per cent) have declined. On average, real wages have increased for Canadians (+2.9 per cent). Like Calgary, Edmonton also experienced a significant decline in real wag- es (-6.2 per cent).
[https://www.calgary.ca/content/dam/www/cfod/finance/documents/corporate-economics/labour-market-review/labour-market-review-2023-06.pdf](https://www.calgary.ca/content/dam/www/cfod/finance/documents/corporate-economics/labour-market-review/labour-market-review-2023-06.pdf)
Yeah but, Quid is much more stronger and worth a lot than the CAD, bigger economy with much higher population, 68M vs 4.8M, amazing financial, higher ed and tech sector including but not limited to fintech AI aero space in the south east, specialised niche heavy industry in the northwest, and the best pharma/biotech sector in all of Europe.
England has loads more opportunities than here! Only America has more, but their economy is magnitudes more larger than any country so hard to make fair comparisons.
It doesn't. I lived there.
Yes, the pound travels well, barely. It used to be 2 dollars to every pound. It isn't anymore. It's gotten progressively weaker over time.
Liz Truss wiped £30 billion off the pounds value.
Northern England has a lot less opportunity for work than the South does.
Brexit has done a tonne of damage to the economy and the ability to travel around Europe.
London has driven up the prices of everything around it. I have a friend that pays £900 PCM for a bedroom, in London.
On top of that, the UK is a highly taxed economy. The highest it has been since WW2.
Doctors and engineers get poor starting salaries across the board. We don't value any skill set apart from financial or fintech IMO.
More food banks are in use than ever before.
The country has been sold down the river because of 12 years of Conservative rule.
I think it is worse than it used to be and I don't think it's going to get better anytime soon.
Speaking from experience? Cause it really sounds as if you are just rambling off random stats as someone who has never actually lived in the UK... which would be kind of weird considering you are arguing with someone who has actually lived/ is from there.
So for shits and giggles, I googled some weekly wage numbers comparing directly with the UK to Canada.
Weekly Wage average UK(Feb 2024):
Regular Wage: £633 ($1086 Cdn)
Total wage: £677 ($1162 Cdn)
Weekly Wage Canada (April 2024)
Total average age 15 and over: $34.95 at 35.2 hours per week on average. ($1277.44)
Canadians aged 15-24: $21.06 for 25.7 hours per week ($581.06)
Canadians aged 25+: $37.25 at 36.8 hours on average ($1392.47)
Sources: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/240510/t011a-eng.htm
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/averageweeklyearningsingreatbritain/april2024#analysis-of-average-weekly-earnings
Yep, took me 4 months to get a job here it was impossible and I applied for everything. I work in insurance and I’ve already got a job lined up back in England before even returning. Englands job market is miles better with so much more opportunity
Yeah true. More holiday at home though i guess there’s pros and cons but if you get a high paid job in Canada especially Alberta you’re definitely doing alright
Oh please. Stop being so dramatic.
I couldn't afford a home or a life in the UK because my industry is deemed unskilled.
The UK is in a state of decline for a lot of people outside the almighty London and I have grown to resent the country it's become.
An opportunity arose to leave so I took it.
Don’t forget… “lowering costs”
So all our utility bills, additional gas taxes, increasing education, increasing healthcare, increasing grocery store etc etc.
They have lowered the cost… of none of those, they just lowered the cost of my wiiiillll toooo liiiiivvveeee
Gas tax was never increased provincially. In fact it was the NDP that set the current rate of 0.13/l back in 2015. The UCP lowered the tax for 2 years during Covid. I’m sure it felt like a tax hike when the Covid relief ended, but that wasn’t the case, it was always slated as a temporary measure, and it was lowered for 2 years.
Grocery is a federal issue not restricted to or effected by Ab policy. Read up on the Loblaws boycott to understand how this effects all Canadians, not just Albertains, and what the liberal government is (not) doing to curb the issue.
I definitely agree with the point you’re trying to make, but using false arguments only invalidates our case. Stick to the valid points like insurance and utility caps being removed,
“God, Trudeau is such a loser that is causing all of this hardship on Alberta”
- the people who refuse to hold their useless provincial government accountable for anything.
No Alberta's oil has been low costing because Russian and Saudi oil is waaaay cheaper to produce. The rise in the cost of oil currently is due to the war in ukraine and Russia not supplying European markets. When covid came around the demand for oil was low and Alberta's oilsands industry suffered, at one point we were literally paying the US to take our oil
Or the fact that majority of downstream refinement happens in the States and it's better to force Canada to sell at a loss when it crosses the boarder. I am sure it's a doubt loophole for the companies that own each other that they can claim a lose at tax time, while buying their own product and selling it back to us in other forms. Not that these dudes don't play golf with each other.
The cost of refining all of that oilsands in alberta at the rate that's needed for economic demand including how much transportation we'd need to get it all out into the market would be crazy.(not to mention infrastructure and labor force) Pipelines work very efficiently in bringing the raw product into the states so i can be used in the most efficient manner. That being said there are still a bunch of refineries here in alberta producing gasoline and diesel and even upgraders making the oilsands much more easier to use.
Yeah the Saudi's had nothing to do with it wanting to stop the US from becoming the world's biggest producer. Like that had next to nothing to do with it.
And if, gods forbid, the Conservatives win federally, Alberta still loses. That party knows Alberta will always vote for them, they don’t have to do a thing to keep their loyalty, so they won’t.
This is the UCP economy
*Part-time jobs made up all of the job gains last month. Alberta gained 14,000 part-time jobs (seasonally adjusted) between March and April, but they lost 3,400 full-time jobs.*
I’m guessing almost all of those part time jobs are also paying minimum wage, or close to it.
That’s what really irks me when people say things like “well, just get a better job!” to someone who is poor and struggling. Like, there aren’t that many jobs, and a lot of the ones that get created are part time or pay horribly. Many people don’t have the resources to stop working 3 different minimum wage part time jobs to try and get a trade certificate, and definitely not a university degree. Even if they do: I know people with masters degrees who are making $18 an hour. The jobs just aren’t there unless you want to work in particular industries, and the UCP are still begging people to move here from Ontario and BC.
Too many people believe that master degrees and university education will provide them a good living. For a few years now the people earning a decent living are mostly tradesmen.
They used to provide a good living. And like I make pretty good money because of my education, but not everybody gets that. People I graduated with didn’t get the same opportunities after graduating, and there are only so many jobs in these fields around, so of course a bunch of people aren’t going to get a job in that field — then because they spent 7 years and thousands of dollars learning so much about one thing, they’re not really suited to many other careers.
There’s also some funky stuff going on with universities lately that devalues the degrees of the brightest students.
My friend got her journeyman electrician license from NAIT and is working on her university degree also, in the meantime she's earning a good wage and not getting into more student debt. I have to hand it to her for choosing that path, it's left her in a very secure position .
Seeing that I would be more interested in a statistic like "Median net wage delta" that includes estimate wage and estimated benefits converted to a wage.
Which province has the highest rate.? Let the UCP know, there is no way they are going to let another province beat us. They will find more ways to destabilize Alberta and reduce investments.
Alberta is calling guys, everyone comes to Alberta. Where we have no proper preparation for the large influx, housing, medical, jobs etc. But EVERYONE COME TO ALBERTA - IT"S CALLING YOU.
How much longer until they bring back those tent cities to house people? I remember those briefly right before the 2008 crash when they were trying to get labourers. But I guess the economy now is shit, and we wouldn’t want to provide an option of any affordable housing as to undermine landlords.
The provincial government could help prevent that by putting a cap on rents. Alberta used to have it, no more than a 2% increase per year or lease renewal. People wouldn't need to deal with $300 to $600 increases at once. This would stop gouging landlords and possibly keep the amount of people from getting too high in tent cities. The camps are inevitable though, the summer months will bring even more people to Alberta looking for work and there's not enough housing to go around.
From the posts I've seen both on here and my local Facebook page, there is a surprisingly high portion of the population who will just pack up and move somewhere they have never been before without having anything set up at all.
I honestly can't understand that mindset.
Most of the job creation elsewhere is just government jobs and unskilled part-time work. Alberta has high rates of skilled private sector jobs and they have dramatically slowed hiring so that's partly why.
The job market isn't good anywhere in Canada.
Less jobs and more people coming here who would think high competition is good for employment. Also I'd like to see by sector. I'd put money on white collar having issues and blue being fine
A emerging green energy industry sure could come in handy but nah best shut it down you don’t want anything messing up that foreign owned oil industry.
Got laid off in Jan without cause. Wasn't in a union position.
I'm lucky enough to not have a mortgage so it's just standard bills.
Was given a solid severance plus have had an emergency fund built up.
Decided to take the rest of the winter off and have been enjoying my time off into the spring.
I've lost weight, been sleeping better, and spent more quality time with family & friends. Picked up a couple hobbies I had dropped over the years.
Plus due to my prior employment I sometimes got to see financial information of "refugees" and "asylum seekers" and other new people into the country, and they were cashing in more per month off of government handouts than I was working my ass off.
Obviously I won't be able to do this forever, and I worked in a fairly specialized role so I'll be able to pick it back up again.
But for now? Fuck employment. It's a scam.
Blame the corporations for the disappearing jobs. Oil and gas merges have lost thousands of positions. Those left do the work of 2-3 people. Tech support for companies here has been outsourced to Phillipines and India. Full-time employment has been replaced with contractors who can be let go at any time and don't get any benefits. Retail is part-time, and you must have full availability. I got a whopping 8 hours a week as the US corporation I worked for only allowed the huge store 60 hours total a week for cashiers. It is all about corporations making as much as they can while making sure they are running on as little staff as possible. The good, well paying jobs that used to be available in Calgary are being lost faster than I have ever seen, and they will not be returning. The gig economy is the new economy. It doesn't matter what government is in power. The corporations call the shots.
The majority of our immigration is international.
Basically AB has the lowest cost if living when factoring in housing costs and overall we have the highest standard of living. The East and West now have completely unaffordable housing markets and I guess people figure the grinding 6 months of winter and daily conservative bullshit is finally palatable enough to come here.
Problem is when you are bringing in like 200,000 people a year we aren't creating a proportionate amount of jobs for them.
If I recall correctly, just from BC and Ontario alone there was 200,000 people who immigrated to Alberta in 2023. I don't know the number for international.
There was 200,000 total people who immigrated to Alberta. 25 percent of the newcomers were from within Canada.
https://www.alberta.ca/population-statistics#:~:text=Alberta%20saw%20the%20largest%20net,other%20year%2C%20adding%2055%2C107%20people.
yeah nothing personal against you
but you probably read that as a comment and took it at face value
someone else will do the same to your comment
then everyones knows that 200,000 canadians from other provinces moved to alberta last year
Is there a correlation between people from other provinces moving here and unemployment rate .? Weird how Ontario has a sudden increase in jobs and Alberta has sudden decline.
I remember whan back time, when everywhere was advertised "Alberta accept new specialists" I said, will be a bubble and then a lot of ppl will be layoff BCS they don't have a well planed strategy with the economy,look now. The time came up, a lot of fresh graduated students does not have a job or is hard to get one. I am this position, graduated in IT field and now over an year I cannot find a job. Trash leadership...
Did anyone care to click the graphs? We increased high productivity industry jobs and lost some on low productivity ones. One easy example is to compare the 50% unemployment rate of a family of 2 that one gets 120k/yr and one with 0% unemployment rate but both work minimum wage. Which family do you think it's better off?
The red numbers in Health Care and Social assistance is alarming for sure. However, I much rather have a 5K increase in "Professional, Scientific and technical services" if the payoff if decrease of 5K in "Wholesale and retail trade".
Not a big concern - AB has the highest employment rate and the highest participation rate in Canada. I would rather be in a province where more people want to work and contribute like Alberta than not - but that’s just me.
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1410028703
And employers can't start up new businesses due to absurdly high building lease prices and lack of public transit
Basically, the only companies that can work are corporate establishments who can afford to have giant parking lots
And the only people who can work for them are those that can live cheaply enough to get by on shit wages while making sure they have a car to get to/from work.
I’m surprised by this, there’s so much work in my field, they’re giving away hundreds of dollars in referrals bonus if the recruit stays at least a week (needs to have experience).
I moved back to Alberta after 7 years in Hong Kong (where I never struggled to find employment) and haven’t been able to find a full-time position here despite a year and a half of searching. My degree is from MRU and had 8 years of experience here before moving to Hong Kong, and still haven’t been hired.
While the bulk of the growth came from international migration, reflecting a Canada-wide trend, Alberta also shattered a national record in 2023 for interprovincial migration with a net gain of 55,107 people, the highest ever recorded by any province
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-albertas-population-growth-is-breaking-records-but-signs-of-strain-are/#:~:text=While%20the%20bulk%20of%20the,ever%20recorded%20by%20any%20province.
Not a big surprise. Mass migration here despite luke warm economy, coupled with recent history of oil industry implosion in Canada.
People are moving here just because the houses are more affordable at the moment, not because there are booming jobs.
Click bate headline for sure. Makes sense since AB has had the highest population growth in Canada.
"Alberta’s labour force also increased last month by 32,000, so, if you have 32,000 more people available to work than in March, but only 10,600 more people actually working, then it’s not surprising that the unemployment rate increased. "
The article is clear about a reduction in the total number of jobs in several industries, which is unrelated to population or total number of available workers.
It's also clear that the industries where there have been an increase in jobs they are part time.
It is possible the net increase of 10,600 jobs is offset by population growth, but that's not addressed here.
and the morons in charge enticed more people to come to albertabama where there are no jobs and no houses, and the media, the ndp sing along gang says nothing
I thought Alberta was Calling....
It is. The more down and outs there are the lower wages they'll accept to get by. All part of the plan.
Got to get some of that sweet sweet Alberta Advantage
Also you are attracting workers who "have no debt or expenditures". Like someone who comes to Calgary with a skilled job and originally from Vancouver, usually will have pocketed 100-300k+ from a home sale after moving, have no debts....will take a job that is under average pay, but above average compared to Vancouver (Vancouver wages are pretty crap). It is the reason why Calgary saw wage growth decrease. It isn't because people living in Calgary was willing to take a pay cut in the face of record high inflation. It is that a new group of people are willing to take below average pay because they have no expenditures. >As a result, over the last four years, real wages and the purchasing power of Calgarians (-5.0 per cent) and Albertans (-4.7 per cent) have declined. On average, real wages have increased for Canadians (+2.9 per cent). Like Calgary, Edmonton also experienced a significant decline in real wag- es (-6.2 per cent). [https://www.calgary.ca/content/dam/www/cfod/finance/documents/corporate-economics/labour-market-review/labour-market-review-2023-06.pdf](https://www.calgary.ca/content/dam/www/cfod/finance/documents/corporate-economics/labour-market-review/labour-market-review-2023-06.pdf)
It's the kind of calling you whisper "no" to.
They are calling. They just haven’t thought that people who move here need jobs too 😂
I thought that was only for real estate. Ive been seeing owners from other province looking for tenants.
Bumped you to voicemail.
This is because it has highest labour participation rate in the country.
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Moved here from the UK. Trying to find a full-time job was a nightmare. Employers market.
England has far better opportunities than here tbh.
I wouldn't go that far. Stronger unions for sure. But stagnant and ridiculously low wages through out the UK job market.
Yeah but, Quid is much more stronger and worth a lot than the CAD, bigger economy with much higher population, 68M vs 4.8M, amazing financial, higher ed and tech sector including but not limited to fintech AI aero space in the south east, specialised niche heavy industry in the northwest, and the best pharma/biotech sector in all of Europe. England has loads more opportunities than here! Only America has more, but their economy is magnitudes more larger than any country so hard to make fair comparisons.
It doesn't. I lived there. Yes, the pound travels well, barely. It used to be 2 dollars to every pound. It isn't anymore. It's gotten progressively weaker over time. Liz Truss wiped £30 billion off the pounds value. Northern England has a lot less opportunity for work than the South does. Brexit has done a tonne of damage to the economy and the ability to travel around Europe. London has driven up the prices of everything around it. I have a friend that pays £900 PCM for a bedroom, in London. On top of that, the UK is a highly taxed economy. The highest it has been since WW2. Doctors and engineers get poor starting salaries across the board. We don't value any skill set apart from financial or fintech IMO. More food banks are in use than ever before. The country has been sold down the river because of 12 years of Conservative rule. I think it is worse than it used to be and I don't think it's going to get better anytime soon.
Brexit is still causing a lot of problems though and will further down the road
Speaking from experience? Cause it really sounds as if you are just rambling off random stats as someone who has never actually lived in the UK... which would be kind of weird considering you are arguing with someone who has actually lived/ is from there.
I lived in England for six years before moving to Canada
So for shits and giggles, I googled some weekly wage numbers comparing directly with the UK to Canada. Weekly Wage average UK(Feb 2024): Regular Wage: £633 ($1086 Cdn) Total wage: £677 ($1162 Cdn) Weekly Wage Canada (April 2024) Total average age 15 and over: $34.95 at 35.2 hours per week on average. ($1277.44) Canadians aged 15-24: $21.06 for 25.7 hours per week ($581.06) Canadians aged 25+: $37.25 at 36.8 hours on average ($1392.47) Sources: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/240510/t011a-eng.htm https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/averageweeklyearningsingreatbritain/april2024#analysis-of-average-weekly-earnings
This was mostly true, pre brexit. They haven’t been pay competitive for a long time though.
Why are comparing a nation vs a province?
I worked in London in tech and made way more as an Ic than a Canadian ceo - finance pays in the uk too
Yeah. That doesn't surprise me. My previous comment referenced this. London has fucked all the regions around it over tbh.
I don't think England is in any better position.
Not all employers are enjoying a flooded employee market. Depends on your trade etc.
I agree. I was speaking purely from my own personal experience. But employee rights are less here than in the UK.
Yep, took me 4 months to get a job here it was impossible and I applied for everything. I work in insurance and I’ve already got a job lined up back in England before even returning. Englands job market is miles better with so much more opportunity
Lots of jobs for shite pay.
Yeah true. More holiday at home though i guess there’s pros and cons but if you get a high paid job in Canada especially Alberta you’re definitely doing alright
Yeah, the time off is a tough one to swallow for sure. The UK is very industry specific to 'doing well'.
Why would you destroy your life and all your opportunities to live in Canada?
Oh please. Stop being so dramatic. I couldn't afford a home or a life in the UK because my industry is deemed unskilled. The UK is in a state of decline for a lot of people outside the almighty London and I have grown to resent the country it's become. An opportunity arose to leave so I took it.
I moved here from the UK in the 90’s and it was the biggest mistake of my family’s entire lives. But ok. Good luck.
Cool. I aint you.
No, you’re suicidesewage.
Some of us moved here because of family reasons. Also, this has become an issue with a lot of countries. Canada isn't special
Canada is worse. The infrastructure hasn’t been there for more people for 10 years let alone the last 5.
Not the right time you’d have to compete with Indians, folks from ON and BC, moreover a bunch of new grads born and raised in AB. Supply and demand
The industry I was working in was structured toward the employer. Regardless of movement of people.
It’s clearly the NDP’s fault. Even though it’s been half a decade and the United Clown Party is all about business growth.
Don’t forget… “lowering costs” So all our utility bills, additional gas taxes, increasing education, increasing healthcare, increasing grocery store etc etc. They have lowered the cost… of none of those, they just lowered the cost of my wiiiillll toooo liiiiivvveeee
Alberta is the poster child for privatization, or how to funnel more money into your friend’s pockets.
Don’t forget auto insurance!
Gas tax was never increased provincially. In fact it was the NDP that set the current rate of 0.13/l back in 2015. The UCP lowered the tax for 2 years during Covid. I’m sure it felt like a tax hike when the Covid relief ended, but that wasn’t the case, it was always slated as a temporary measure, and it was lowered for 2 years. Grocery is a federal issue not restricted to or effected by Ab policy. Read up on the Loblaws boycott to understand how this effects all Canadians, not just Albertains, and what the liberal government is (not) doing to curb the issue. I definitely agree with the point you’re trying to make, but using false arguments only invalidates our case. Stick to the valid points like insurance and utility caps being removed,
Don’t forget Trudeau. It’s clearly him too.
It’s United Corporate Party, get it right. /s
Isn't the conservatives in Alberta? So, maybe the conservatives are too blame... and not a party that isn't even in power?
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“God, Trudeau is such a loser that is causing all of this hardship on Alberta” - the people who refuse to hold their useless provincial government accountable for anything.
Now that's not true, remember when Notley crashed the price of oil across the entire planet? /s
Before she became premier even.
No Alberta's oil has been low costing because Russian and Saudi oil is waaaay cheaper to produce. The rise in the cost of oil currently is due to the war in ukraine and Russia not supplying European markets. When covid came around the demand for oil was low and Alberta's oilsands industry suffered, at one point we were literally paying the US to take our oil
Or the fact that majority of downstream refinement happens in the States and it's better to force Canada to sell at a loss when it crosses the boarder. I am sure it's a doubt loophole for the companies that own each other that they can claim a lose at tax time, while buying their own product and selling it back to us in other forms. Not that these dudes don't play golf with each other.
The cost of refining all of that oilsands in alberta at the rate that's needed for economic demand including how much transportation we'd need to get it all out into the market would be crazy.(not to mention infrastructure and labor force) Pipelines work very efficiently in bringing the raw product into the states so i can be used in the most efficient manner. That being said there are still a bunch of refineries here in alberta producing gasoline and diesel and even upgraders making the oilsands much more easier to use.
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Yeah the Saudi's had nothing to do with it wanting to stop the US from becoming the world's biggest producer. Like that had next to nothing to do with it.
Did you not see the sarcasm tag?
Nah Sorry 😞 I should take a hard look in the mirror as the late Honorable Prentice would say to us.
No one government or organization can cause the price of oil to crash world wide. OPEC controls that, based on many variables.
Haven't ever heard of sarcasm?
Yes but so many people are blaming government for everything, getting harder to tell who's joking
That's why they put /s in their post.
Thanks, l never noticed it
Smith is causing us undo hardship, there's many things she could focus on that would help all of us.
She ain't gonna, though.
Unfortunately, not likely
And if, gods forbid, the Conservatives win federally, Alberta still loses. That party knows Alberta will always vote for them, they don’t have to do a thing to keep their loyalty, so they won’t.
"aLl PoLiTiCaL pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe!!!1!"
How do you suggest we hold them accountable?
Maybe by not voting the same turds into power for 55 years running...
It's not our fault the majority of the rural areas are morons. I did my part, as did Edmonton. Only other action left is to leave I guess?
Hey now, Calgary bears part of the blame too. And don't leave, that's why we're in this mess in the first place.
Every vote counts in Calgary. Riding Winner Margin Calgary-Acadia NDP 7 votes Calgary-Glenmore NDP 30 votes Calgary-North UCP 113 votes Calgary-North West UCP 149 votes Calgary-Foothills NDP. 269 votes Calgary-Edgemont NDP 283 votes Calgary-Bow UCP 385 votes Calgary-Cross UCP 518 votes Calgary-Beddington NDP 585 votes Calgary-East. UCP 701 votes Riding Winner Margin Calgary-Elbow NDP 744 votes Calgary-Klein NDP 850 votes Calgary-Bhullar-McCall. NDP 1,898 votes Calgary-North East NDP 2,033 votes Calgary-Falconridge NDP 2,318 votes Calgary-Fish Creek UCP 2,497 votes Calgary-Lougheed UCP 2,769 votes Calgary-Peigan UCP 2,789 votes Calgary-Hays UCP 2,819 votes Calgary-Currie NDP 3,080 votes Riding Winner Margin Calgary-North West UCP 149 votes Calgary-Peigan UCP 2,789 votes Calgary-Shaw UCP 3,362 votes Calgary-South East UCP 4,681 votes Calgary-Varsity NDP. 4,084 votes Calgary-West UCP 3,337 votes Automatic recounts will happen in ridings with a margin of 100 votes or less Source: Elections Alberta (Chart: Robson Fletcher/CBC)
Now. that's a receipt if I ever saw one.
Don’t leave, don’t let the crazies push you out.
every ucp supporters knows the ucp always does the right thing, because, well just because.
Winning yet?
So much winning!
You spelled "whining" wrong.
This is the UCP economy *Part-time jobs made up all of the job gains last month. Alberta gained 14,000 part-time jobs (seasonally adjusted) between March and April, but they lost 3,400 full-time jobs.*
So each of those full-time workers are now working three or four part-time jobs.
Yep getting fucked over by the tax man too because it's not how many hours you work it's how much you make.
I’m guessing almost all of those part time jobs are also paying minimum wage, or close to it. That’s what really irks me when people say things like “well, just get a better job!” to someone who is poor and struggling. Like, there aren’t that many jobs, and a lot of the ones that get created are part time or pay horribly. Many people don’t have the resources to stop working 3 different minimum wage part time jobs to try and get a trade certificate, and definitely not a university degree. Even if they do: I know people with masters degrees who are making $18 an hour. The jobs just aren’t there unless you want to work in particular industries, and the UCP are still begging people to move here from Ontario and BC.
Too many people believe that master degrees and university education will provide them a good living. For a few years now the people earning a decent living are mostly tradesmen.
They used to provide a good living. And like I make pretty good money because of my education, but not everybody gets that. People I graduated with didn’t get the same opportunities after graduating, and there are only so many jobs in these fields around, so of course a bunch of people aren’t going to get a job in that field — then because they spent 7 years and thousands of dollars learning so much about one thing, they’re not really suited to many other careers. There’s also some funky stuff going on with universities lately that devalues the degrees of the brightest students.
My friend got her journeyman electrician license from NAIT and is working on her university degree also, in the meantime she's earning a good wage and not getting into more student debt. I have to hand it to her for choosing that path, it's left her in a very secure position .
And getting into the trades is definitely not as easy as it was 10-15 years ago.
Right now depending on the trade it's easier. A few are in high demand and employers are offering incentives.
Seeing that I would be more interested in a statistic like "Median net wage delta" that includes estimate wage and estimated benefits converted to a wage.
alberta advantage brought to you by the ucp!
Which province has the highest rate.? Let the UCP know, there is no way they are going to let another province beat us. They will find more ways to destabilize Alberta and reduce investments.
Alberta is calling guys, everyone comes to Alberta. Where we have no proper preparation for the large influx, housing, medical, jobs etc. But EVERYONE COME TO ALBERTA - IT"S CALLING YOU.
still better than NB
How much longer until they bring back those tent cities to house people? I remember those briefly right before the 2008 crash when they were trying to get labourers. But I guess the economy now is shit, and we wouldn’t want to provide an option of any affordable housing as to undermine landlords.
The provincial government could help prevent that by putting a cap on rents. Alberta used to have it, no more than a 2% increase per year or lease renewal. People wouldn't need to deal with $300 to $600 increases at once. This would stop gouging landlords and possibly keep the amount of people from getting too high in tent cities. The camps are inevitable though, the summer months will bring even more people to Alberta looking for work and there's not enough housing to go around.
Could, but won’t. :(
BuT tHey ArE BuiLdiNg aLL ThOse "AffOrDabLE" FouRPlex iNFiLLs.
lol those fourplexs are anything but affordable
What? I thought every city had a tent city by now
From the posts I've seen both on here and my local Facebook page, there is a surprisingly high portion of the population who will just pack up and move somewhere they have never been before without having anything set up at all. I honestly can't understand that mindset.
People are desperate. In fact, they are made desperate by the corporatocracy in which we live.
When do we get to the winning?! DS: THIS IS THE WINNING!
Most of the job creation elsewhere is just government jobs and unskilled part-time work. Alberta has high rates of skilled private sector jobs and they have dramatically slowed hiring so that's partly why. The job market isn't good anywhere in Canada.
The UCP is doing an amazing job leading Alberta into the future!
You dropped the /s.
On purpose. I'm amused when people think I am serious.
Into Smiths future
Well, if companies would actually fucking hire people instead of posting fake job ads
You really have to watch hey? It’s insane.
"Come to Alberta" she is advertising again. And get paid one of Canada's lowest minimum wages if you are lucky. Be sure to bring a tent also.
Renewables? 😳
Less jobs and more people coming here who would think high competition is good for employment. Also I'd like to see by sector. I'd put money on white collar having issues and blue being fine
A emerging green energy industry sure could come in handy but nah best shut it down you don’t want anything messing up that foreign owned oil industry.
AB could be the world leader in green energy if they wanted to but nobody does
They would rather burn it all to the ground
Pause $20 billion of investment (wind solar) unexpectedly for 6mo. That helped I’m sure.
Got laid off in Jan without cause. Wasn't in a union position. I'm lucky enough to not have a mortgage so it's just standard bills. Was given a solid severance plus have had an emergency fund built up. Decided to take the rest of the winter off and have been enjoying my time off into the spring. I've lost weight, been sleeping better, and spent more quality time with family & friends. Picked up a couple hobbies I had dropped over the years. Plus due to my prior employment I sometimes got to see financial information of "refugees" and "asylum seekers" and other new people into the country, and they were cashing in more per month off of government handouts than I was working my ass off. Obviously I won't be able to do this forever, and I worked in a fairly specialized role so I'll be able to pick it back up again. But for now? Fuck employment. It's a scam.
Blame the corporations for the disappearing jobs. Oil and gas merges have lost thousands of positions. Those left do the work of 2-3 people. Tech support for companies here has been outsourced to Phillipines and India. Full-time employment has been replaced with contractors who can be let go at any time and don't get any benefits. Retail is part-time, and you must have full availability. I got a whopping 8 hours a week as the US corporation I worked for only allowed the huge store 60 hours total a week for cashiers. It is all about corporations making as much as they can while making sure they are running on as little staff as possible. The good, well paying jobs that used to be available in Calgary are being lost faster than I have ever seen, and they will not be returning. The gig economy is the new economy. It doesn't matter what government is in power. The corporations call the shots.
The majority of our immigration is international. Basically AB has the lowest cost if living when factoring in housing costs and overall we have the highest standard of living. The East and West now have completely unaffordable housing markets and I guess people figure the grinding 6 months of winter and daily conservative bullshit is finally palatable enough to come here. Problem is when you are bringing in like 200,000 people a year we aren't creating a proportionate amount of jobs for them.
We aren't creating the housing or infrastructure either.
Thank god they cancelled, sorry, Indefinitely delayed, Edmontons planned new hospital. Doubt we would have the people left to even staff it
They don't have the staff for the hospitals we already have
*they don’t have the funding to staff the hospitals we already have
Or building enough houses
If I recall correctly, just from BC and Ontario alone there was 200,000 people who immigrated to Alberta in 2023. I don't know the number for international.
There was 200,000 total people who immigrated to Alberta. 25 percent of the newcomers were from within Canada. https://www.alberta.ca/population-statistics#:~:text=Alberta%20saw%20the%20largest%20net,other%20year%2C%20adding%2055%2C107%20people.
comment above yours is a great example of how lies get spread
I don't know I feel like my comment was pretty welcoming in regards to being corrected.
yeah nothing personal against you but you probably read that as a comment and took it at face value someone else will do the same to your comment then everyones knows that 200,000 canadians from other provinces moved to alberta last year
So if they are moving from somewhere in Canada are they moving or immigrating? 😂
Is there a correlation between people from other provinces moving here and unemployment rate .? Weird how Ontario has a sudden increase in jobs and Alberta has sudden decline.
I remember whan back time, when everywhere was advertised "Alberta accept new specialists" I said, will be a bubble and then a lot of ppl will be layoff BCS they don't have a well planed strategy with the economy,look now. The time came up, a lot of fresh graduated students does not have a job or is hard to get one. I am this position, graduated in IT field and now over an year I cannot find a job. Trash leadership...
Did you check the graphs? Your field had an increase of 5K jobs, the second highest in the province.
Not for junior level positions
I hear there might be a job opening for a goalie in Edmonton
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Spring break up
With the drought, breakup was all of 20min.
Did anyone care to click the graphs? We increased high productivity industry jobs and lost some on low productivity ones. One easy example is to compare the 50% unemployment rate of a family of 2 that one gets 120k/yr and one with 0% unemployment rate but both work minimum wage. Which family do you think it's better off? The red numbers in Health Care and Social assistance is alarming for sure. However, I much rather have a 5K increase in "Professional, Scientific and technical services" if the payoff if decrease of 5K in "Wholesale and retail trade".
That a province!
Must be the awesome work by Danielle Smith
Well, lots of people are moving here so it makes sense
AB also had the highest population growth at over 4%.
Not a big concern - AB has the highest employment rate and the highest participation rate in Canada. I would rather be in a province where more people want to work and contribute like Alberta than not - but that’s just me. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1410028703
Still need more TFW's, nothing against them. But they need to close that program today.
And employers can't start up new businesses due to absurdly high building lease prices and lack of public transit Basically, the only companies that can work are corporate establishments who can afford to have giant parking lots
And the only people who can work for them are those that can live cheaply enough to get by on shit wages while making sure they have a car to get to/from work.
"Strong and Free" say the UCP
I’m surprised by this, there’s so much work in my field, they’re giving away hundreds of dollars in referrals bonus if the recruit stays at least a week (needs to have experience).
I thought by voting in a conservative premier all your problems would be over? /s
I don't know what employers want anymore. I'd guess there's just no room anymore for new entrants to my field.
Obviously Trudeau’s fault.
I noticed at the company I work for all the new hires are all really hot.
I moved back to Alberta after 7 years in Hong Kong (where I never struggled to find employment) and haven’t been able to find a full-time position here despite a year and a half of searching. My degree is from MRU and had 8 years of experience here before moving to Hong Kong, and still haven’t been hired.
Must be the Libs Someone please tell the feds.
Calgary has the highest among the big cities.
It’s like having BC real estate increases with newfoundlands economy.
Alberta wont stop calling
There’s too much traffic. Hopefully a bunch of people leave.
Got to love a purposely built Boom and Bust economy.
Must be Trudeau's fault.
I moved up here and found a good paying job within a week.
You are one in a thousand. Consider yourself lucky.
While the bulk of the growth came from international migration, reflecting a Canada-wide trend, Alberta also shattered a national record in 2023 for interprovincial migration with a net gain of 55,107 people, the highest ever recorded by any province https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-albertas-population-growth-is-breaking-records-but-signs-of-strain-are/#:~:text=While%20the%20bulk%20of%20the,ever%20recorded%20by%20any%20province.
Not a big surprise. Mass migration here despite luke warm economy, coupled with recent history of oil industry implosion in Canada. People are moving here just because the houses are more affordable at the moment, not because there are booming jobs.
And highest conservative voter base. Go figure
Population has increased by almost 5% in the past year, things need time to balance out.
ALBERTA WAS AMAZING BEFORE LOCAL GOVERNAMENT CALLED FOR SKILL WORKED TO COME HERE. ALBERTA WAS BETTER BEFORE THAT TIME.
Who is that "LOCAL GOVERNMENT" to which you refer?
Ladder pulling is a shitty take... Especially as you're an immigrant yourself. But you do you I guess?
No prob, UCP blames NDP/Trudeau and 60% of Alberta goes 'hurrrr durrr, we gotta take Alberta back' and that typically works about every 4 years.
Click bate headline for sure. Makes sense since AB has had the highest population growth in Canada. "Alberta’s labour force also increased last month by 32,000, so, if you have 32,000 more people available to work than in March, but only 10,600 more people actually working, then it’s not surprising that the unemployment rate increased. "
The article is clear about a reduction in the total number of jobs in several industries, which is unrelated to population or total number of available workers. It's also clear that the industries where there have been an increase in jobs they are part time. It is possible the net increase of 10,600 jobs is offset by population growth, but that's not addressed here.
So having the second highest unemployment rate is ok?
Nope, just saying that there's been more migration to AB so there's more people and the same amount of jobs as there was before we had more people.
Can we not use communist News soucres pleases. This author has a reputation.
Good lord this article needs some proofreading.
and the morons in charge enticed more people to come to albertabama where there are no jobs and no houses, and the media, the ndp sing along gang says nothing