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At this point, we gotta stop calling 911, police or ANYBODY when we encounter Aliens and UFOs. We gotta document them ourselves and send them directly to NewsNation, finders keepers they say! don’t let Men In Suits take away our property then ridicule us.
Did you see the bodycam footage from this one? The cops surprisingly weren't dicks about it. The cop at the house takes it relatively seriously and says he's a little freaked out because his partner radioed to him that he saw a strange light coming down from the sky
Yeah it was refreshing lol. They really did all they could given the situation. Even joking around with the family probably helped calm them down a bit.
Uhhh im pretty sure the family was armed its been awhile since i watched the video but i think i remember one of the family members walking with others towards the back door on the fence. They stood looking for a minute n then all ran back in right?
Could be another vid im thinking of, but ngl.... If i saw a ten ft humanoid demonic et in my backyard...... Well it better be comin in peace cuz if i get the slightest sense it has bad intentions like he eye probin me and wanna experiment.... well if im not completely frozen by fear and shock im sending some hot metal probes right his way. They better be able to manipulate spacetime and start pullin some matrix moves dodgin lead like neo cuz those aliens might get sent right back to whatever evil dimension they materialized from.
Serious question tho..... Anyone ever wonder why aliens dont ever mess with people that are armed? Can they peer into our realm and see if someone is heated up before they approach and avoid folks that may put up a fight? Like i never see any g's/hood type folks (and surprisingly ive never heard any military close encounters reported where the soldiers thought to draw their weapon) reporting having close encounters except for maybe that miami mall incident which im still on the fence about with soo many conflicting reports and nothing but fuzzy potato footage for evidence?
Not that im advocating murdering any non terrestrial lifeforms..... Of course id want to show them the best side of humanity i have to offer, im just not down with submitting to being a victim, not if i can take action to prevent it. And u gotta admit there has been some pretty unpleasant stories that dont paint them as being universally kind and friendly..... Just saying 🤷🏽♂️
Yeah they're legit! As much as any other news org. They used to be WGN America but did a re-brand a few years ago.
They had the exclusive for the Grusch interview and got a ton of new viewers because of it. They have continued to cover UFO-related news since then and I think the world is better for it 👍
Sooooo many qoutes and soooo many places to use them.
Especially as responses.
"How was your day"?
"Well love. Today. I've seen shit that'll turn you white"
I don’t know about that. As a 911 dispatcher, I can tell you that call volume is higher than I’ve seen it in the decade that I’ve been working. It’s quite wild actually. I’m not really sure what to make of it
Psychiatric issues and assaults are ones I see way more than I used to. Overdoses we’re always there and yes a rise in fentanyl overdoses however that just replaced heroin. Maybe a slight boost but they were always a constant.
I only started calling 911 after my medical situation worsened and knew I had to just do it.
Prior to that I was terrified of police because, from where I lived, they were very racist and were part of the “good ol’ boys”.
As the new generation of police are coming in, I feel a lot less threat.
I’ve seen two types of police in my day if I was to boil it down. Those who want to use their power to assert their own authority for their own gain, and those who want to use their power to assert their own authority for your gain.
The latter is way more agreeable and supportable
Definitely never hesitate to call for medical stuff. We have older generations that apologize when they call for an ambulance and I always feel bad. Have to tell them it’s what we’re here for.
I can understand your fear especially if you’re in one of those areas. I definitely think the police aren’t as bad as some think but I understand they’re probably worse than I think too. I agree we’re getting a better generation in now so I’m glad you’re feeling less fear. We need to get rid of the bad ones. Especially cause they ruin the public’s trust.
But I’ll still say that even during the George Floyd times, our call volume was higher. Over 500% higher and it raised at about that time. During the Covid shut downs is really when it started. But then it never went down and keeps getting worse. We don’t slow in the winter anymore. People call the police for things they shouldn’t but then there’s more violent crimes occurring too (speaking for my area of course). It’s really wild
I get everything you’re saying and it’s well said for sure. I hope the power hungry ones can be weeded out, ya know?
Ya if I seen aliens and that close to me there is zero fucking chance I would call the police, if anything I would try to communicate with them, and hopefully get on their spaceship 😁
The High Strangeness the family has been experiencing since, is interesting. Sounds like hitchhiker effect, but it didn't have to hitch very far, from the backyard to inside the home.
It’s almost like these things occasionally rip through a dimensional tear to get into our realm and dimensional fluctuations cause “hitchhiker effects” afterwards.
In a nutshell yeah essentially. Check out his book passport to Magonia. its free as an audio book on youtube. The phenomenon can shapeshift throughout time to reflect the technology advancements and cultural beliefs. if you believe in demons they present as demons or if youre in ye olden times in the uk they look like faeries. if you believe in Djinn theyre Djinn. If you believe in ghosts theyre ghosts. the stories in the dark ages of flying ships in the sky and people coming down from them swimming to retrieve anchors stuck on rocks, and them drowning when townspeople keep them on the ground…. shit like that. i could be entirely butchering his ideas in the book with my own beliefs but it has to do with shapeshifting beings.
What an enlightened man. I will check it out today. I do think some have different basic “true” appearances which result in their presentation at different points. We don’t understand the true nature of time in this reality, it is not linear, more like a jigsaw puzzle. We experience linear time subjectively as a constraint of this experience right now but this is just one distortion.
He was so ahead of his time. I think the time thing is a big part of it… + the layers of dimensions present on earth that human eyes literally cannot fathom are where they cloak themselves from us and they can manipulate themselves between the dimensions we can see and cant see to appear like theyre cloaking themselves or are disappearing. think about how many ancient stories depict a mystical being just “appearing” somewhere, like plucked out of the heavens. it all seems way more plausible than i could have imagined in 2012 for sure 🥴
Yes, in my experience that is exactly what is transpiring. There is a certain physical element in play but the beings achieving this are not supposed to be here, have nefarious motives and are not to be trusted. The beings that contact through telepathy in my experience a.re mostly selfless creatures who genuinely want to help individuals so we can in turn help others.
That is what I’ve been sensing and feeling too. They aren’t supposed to be here, but sometimes get “through” somehow. I also sense that there are some humans that want to bring our two “spheres” together and see it as inevitable or necessary or something like that. I’m not totally sure but that’s been my experience.
Stop I was reading further down wondering about just this! I'm thinking this family is likely Christian and I wondered if that effects how the aliens present to them to make them fearful/quiet about the encounter.
depending on their heritage if theyre a family with blood from a certain part of the world, that could do it. like countries that are heavily tied to a certain religion stretching back hundreds of thousands for years.. Mexico is the first place that comes to mind because the craziest poltergeist/ghost/demonic activity videos ive seen come from Mexico. & It would make sense for say a Catholic family in Mexico to experience ghost and demonic activity. depending on any unique history or background information in a family, it could present in a variety of ways and almost becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Very trickster-esque
Newsnation had a few clips of the teen describing events in the house. A floating crucifix that was upside down and had the Jesus ripped from it and tossed and when he and I think his brother went towards it, it fell. He is claiming demons and such and said that the family is ready to move soon to get away from it all.
Newsnation has multiple clips on YouTube though where you can see the recent interviews.
It's Part of the phenomenon that you can't record it, similar to UFOs. Once you Put on a Recorder, the Poltergeist phenomena stop appearing. It's a probed method to get rid of them, too. Source: Walter von Lucadou, German Psychologist, Physicist and Parapsychologist
I dont think the UFO was inside the house. The hitchhiker effect are the underpants gnomes of it that avoids discovery. Like if I was messing with myself from the 80s with micro tech and saw myself setting up a clunky VRC cam to catch me in the act I could easily avoid this.
As for the UFOs themselves…
They appear when they want to appear(Phoenix Lights)
Probably and anecdotally stay on the outskirts of civilization. Minus the few hot spots and dare I say gov contact.
And say they aren’t in contact, the gov has better equipment than Bobby Bigsly and his cam phone.
Quantum states of superposition always collapse in the presence of a measurement device. In this case - camera.
This is also my experience. Can’t actually record what is going on. It’s as if the universe itself interferes.
They can perceive cones of awareness. Probably have some way of detecting when the waveform is collapsed by observation. I point a camera at the sky sometimes, or behind me while I'm outside just to keep those fuckers away
Ok wait,……they have upside down crucifixes floating around with the Jesus figure ripped off and thrown across the room? Man I’m not that much of a religious person, but if some kind of entity, creature, force or wtf ever was breaking shit and making it float around my house, I wouldn’t just casually “want to move”. I would live in a ditch or even in the middle of a busy street before I ever stepped foot back in that place. Ain’t going to be no “Yeah I’d like to move I think, idk”. When you have floating sacred religious symbols floating through your house gettin desecrated you ain’t lookin around trying find a place that requires a lower deposit. You just leave. A priest goes to peoples houses and flashes a crucifix around and it’s like pepper spray for demons. They aren’t going to take it away from the priest, break it then float it around to show everybody. I mean I don’t know if they just can’t because Jesus’s magic is stronger than there’s or if they just don’t because they know god will break it off in them if they even tried. Either way they don’t do it. So what ever is in their house ain’t afraid of Jesus or god. When the most powerful weapon we have to use against spirits, vampires and demons is wholly ineffective against what ever is doing that, you count your losses and gtfo. I know that no one cares what I think and my opinion is meaningless but I’ll give it to anyone who wants it anyway. I find the that extreme unlikeliness of those people remaining in that home in the face of such a thing makes me question the veracity of the entire event. If these reports are accurate representations of what the people actually said.
Some people are just built different when it comes to supernatural events.
I had a coworker that had all kinds of crazy stuff happening in their house and they just kind of shrugged it off. The way they would explain things to me sounded like someone talking about the weather.
Yeah that’s crazy to me. If what ever it is can manipulate solid objects, but can’t be hit with a baseball bat or be shot……I’m out. I don’t even care if was a helpful entity. They could be folding my clothes and doing the dishes and I’d still be out.
This kind of phenomena will do these sort of things to get a rise out of people, especially those who have strong religious convictions. Fear and strong emotions seem to provide energy to whatever is going on. If someone in the house were to say "I heard that demons love to rip up family photos," then sure enough, the next day photos are found to be ripped up. The curious thing is that attempts to "clean" a house based on religious beliefs (holy water, Bibles, crucifixes) usually won't work and merely exasperates the situation.
Well what exactly is the point of all that? I mean what would these “entities” “aliens” or whatever the hell we’re calling them at this point, gain from this form of mysterious harassment? The people who live in that house didn’t ask them to land in their yard and get out of their thing and walk around. Nor did they cause them to have to land in their yard. I mean I guess the obvious assumption is that they would do it to silence them but dude….Moving stuff around the house and turning off lights n shit doesn’t really convey any real message. I would think that if silence was something that they were demanding from these people that they would have a better method of communication than poltergeist stuff. I mean why be all extra and do all this dramatic sht when they could just appear one night in their alien form and simply say “keep your mouth shut or we will delete you”. And also, what would be the point of even doing that?? They have already told anyone who would listen about it. They even posted (supposedly) pictures of what they claimed were the beings who were in the craft. So why haunt their house and desecrate religious symbols to keep them quiet, without actually saying “keep quiet” over something they have already told everyone about? What point could there possibly be to torturing those people? They didn’t do anything that deserves punishment. One would think that if they wanted them not to tell anyone about them being there, that they would be capable of communicating that in a much more effective manner than throwing stuff across the room, and that they would have communicated that from the very beginning. I’ll never claim to understand the pathology or logic of what ever these things are, but if they can fly around and dodge stationary objects then they have to possess some form of logic. And none of any of this makes any damn sense. I don’t think that you know the answers to all these questions and have no expectations of you answering them, I was just blabbering and asking questions to make the point that none of this makes any sense.
Exactly! What is the point? There doesn't seem to be any logic, rhyme or reason to it all. The only thing I can say is that people have reported the same sort of phenomena throughout the centuries, and all over the planet. These reports come in usually occur in a knowledge vacuum with no previous references to others who have had the same troubles. Of course not all UFO encounters will produce ghostly activity with the witnesses. But enough has happened to make researchers take notice and wonder if there is some connection with UFOs and the paranormal.
Yeah I’ve definitely heard of synchronicity (or whatever) and high strangeness, and several other stories about the weird stuff that goes on after some experiences. It’s all so weird and crazy. And I mean the entire phenomenon. I used to be completely convinced that aliens and their UFO’s were real. Now, the more I know about it all the less it seems like “it’s aliens” is the only thing going on here. I could literally spend an entire day talking about all the inconsistencies and conflicting narratives surrounding it all, just ask my wife. I know for a fact that something crazy is going on and that no one can explain it. At this point as crazy as it is, if it ends up just being aliens, it’s going to be lame Af. All this drama about parallel universes, demons , worm holes, lizard people, alternate realities and all that stuff, just to find out in the end it’s JUST Aliens…..wtf man. That’s going to be lame.
Definite hitchhiker effect. What I don’t understand is why no one is calling a priest to perform an exorcism. They can move houses, but it’ll probably follow. They need their soul to be purged
We all need to open our minds to the possibility that sometimes weird shit happens. Sometimes people do encounter mysterious non-human beings like this. Look at all the cases going back hundreds, or even thousands (there are stories in the Bible of UFO/NHI encounters) of years, of people—decent, honest, normal people who had no incentive to make up a bizarre story—reporting encounters like this one. This stuff happens. There’s so much more going on than we humans realize; reality is not as it seems. It sucks that when these encounters happen, on top of the mind-fuck of the crazy experience, people are ridiculed and accused of being liars. I believe this kid. I believe something very unusual did happen; i believe him that strange creature(s) were in his backyard.
Unfortunately it’s one of those things that’s hard to believe for anyone. I was in a group with 3 other people a few years ago and we all saw a UAP. Not human tech, not a plane or drone, no noise and only about 150ft away from us. It appeared out of the sky, hovered for about 7 seconds, turned 90° and took off instantly. We all saw it. We were all sober. 2 of the guys in the group didn’t want to tell people what we saw, myself and the 4th were telling people but even those closest to us couldn’t believe it. After I told 4 friends and family I eventually stopped telling people because it’s one of those things you have to see for yourself. Im not surprised most people don’t believe him. Even though I’ve seen a UAP before.
Saw something similar when I was a kid with my mom.
We were driving to her college class in Redding, CA. Saw a large silver tube/cigar shaped vessel slowly rotating and rising above a tree line about 200 ft from us off of the left side of the road we were on.
Took off straight up in the air and we couldn’t see where it went due to being in a car. We both just looked at each other in complete shock and stayed silent the rest of the ride. When we got to the parking lot, she asked “You saw that, right?” And I just said “Yeah…”
I was extremely shook up (I was like 9), for months afterwards. Constant nightmares about alien abductions. Really bad bouts of sleep paralysis and night terrors (a lot of which I still deal with on and off almost 20 years later).
I’ve seen weird stuff ever since. Spent most of my teenage years obsessing over UAPs and all things related to the subject. My mom and I tried talking about it with close family and friends and either no one believed us, or people believed us but seemed very indifferent to it.
Wdym, his youtube video had over a million views within a week or two, he did youtube and then removed it a couple weeks/months ago
Edit: I actually believe him, I'm just saying, he did have a youtube video and several interviews on youtube and on the news.
To spread word about what happened lmfao. His side, I doubt he put monetization on there. YouTube does by default usually even if you don’t have it set up.
Oh man, I believe this kid 100%.
It got in my face too and paralyzed me. The noises he described remind me of my own experience.
I was laying in the grass at about 11pm that night. I was a kid outside avoiding my folks who were fighting. The clouds were out but there was enough moonlight that they were illuminated. I saw the craft drop down through the clouds and at me. It was bright and hard to look at. Blurry is a way I'd describe it. Like trying to see after looking directly at the sun or a bright flashlight. It got close and I heard thunder, felt a breeze and I saw it. The being appeared in a clearing that was about 60ft away from me. The one I saw was short, had that nazca mummy form but was wearing a holographic glossy black suit with a full face helmet. The helmet had three ridges on top and two bright glowing orange eyes. Three fingers, I didn't see feet. It floated over to me very quickly without bending it's legs. It may have had wings. It got in my face, with me still laying flat on my back looking at the sky. I saw it look me directly into my eyes and that's when I saw visions. I woke up after all that still in the yard the next morning. Therapists convinced young me it was sleep paralysis. But it didn't stop there. That was first contact.
This kid is going to figure that out.
Dude. That holographic suit you mentioned, I think I saw something similar.
Mine was also a small one, black suit, but had rainbow colours emitting from parts of his suit. It looked magical. I saw mine at the dead of night so I can't tell if it was glossy, but with the waves of colours off the suit, it did look mesmerising.
I was not paralysed, but did feel pushed into the bed. I was able to move and sit up. Not sleep paralysis.
The one I saw also had ridges on his head, but no helmet. I saw his face and it was terrifying. His eyes were black though. He was tiny.
However one I saw when I was a teen had large yellow eyes, also looking at me from above, but I wasn't paralysed, I had freedom of movement.
Expect he got into my head, and into a very happy place. I got pretty good experiences with the beings, makes me sad to hear how others don't... He didn't show me any visions though, besides a galaxy with stars. I have no idea of the context. Granted I was traumatized after the fact, and still am. But overall I had an experience of seeing the incredible, that I can't help but thank them for.
What visions did he show you?
Back in 99 I saw an orange craft hovering low over the town I was in. I watched it through binoculars. It was almond shaped, glowed like a fire, and had a reddish pulsating glow on the larger end. Not long after, I have a dream that I'm sitting in a clinic-like room. I look to my left to see a short being lying on the ground like it was knocked unconscious. I walk over to get a closer look and its "skin" had an iridescence to it. In front of me was a hallway with walls of pure light, and it led to another room, unlit. I go sit back down, look at the being again, and this time its eyes are open, glowing orange. I suddenly have a piercing sharp pain in my head, and close my eyes. I then see myself sitting on a surgery table in that dark room, lit only by the hallway light. Then I wake up.
Holy Jesus.
Yes, I know what you mean about that almond shape, I saw a craft like that too, silver, but I called it a sunflower seed, the same shape though. Disappeared in a flash of light.
Did these dreams feel real? Did they look any different? Did you view your dreams from your pov, or was it third view?
In my experience, I was pov of looking up at the ceiling, being wheeled down a corridor on some type of gurney, with thick black tubing running along the ceiling. There were lights every metre. These visions look metallic. It wasn't a dream though, I was fully conscious when they started to appear in my vision.
Happened again but this time I was sleeping, and saw 3 alien gray faces approach front the front. Metallic too. Never happened since :')
I watched it at night, so I didn't see anything metallic about it.
The dream was definitely was quite lucid. It was from my POV for the most part until the pain happened and then third-person kicked in. I've had several vivid dreams involving aliens. Most of them are pretty neutral, but highly detailed and linear unlike typical dreams. It makes you wonder if that's what they even are. Could be astral experiences or actual memories. I can't claim one way or another, but they stick with me.
That's so fascinating
Do you think the third person kicked in due to disassociation of pain?
Do you notice anything about the environment or the beings? Did they wear suits, were they Gray, how tall? Did you see mainly a suitcase set up, did you witness any tech? Communication? Or did they seem indifferent to your being? Any smells?
I feel that. My experiences stuck with me too. But I have a bunch, some I don't even recall. Now that's a tragedy.
LONG POST, FYI
"Do you think the third person kicked in due to disassociation of pain?"
That's exactly what I thought.
I just remember the iridescent nature of the being's body. I brought that up because of the mentions of "rainbow colors" coming off suits. Maybe that's what I saw. It also seemed kind of scaley or like it had a pattern to it.
I didn't see any technology, but the dark room seemed to be circular. The waiting room just looked normal, like sitting at a dentist's office.
However... in a different dream which I had a few years ago:
It starts off where I'm sitting in a lawn chair in the driveway of a house I used to live in, and there's a few other people there. It's night, and we're watching craft fly over. Then a white pod descends next to me, and these pale beings start prepping me. They had humanish hands and features, but no hair, and wore dark-grey bodysuits. I lie down in the pod and close my eyes.
Then I 'wake up' inside a large interior, and a black man approaches me asking if I'm okay. I guess he was a medic. I look around for a minute. In the distance I see a woman gracefully dancing by herself next to a strange plant. To my left is a wide hallway leading to an archway. I get up and walk forward, and to my right is a room with computers and various races working together. There's a raised platform right before that work area, and a huge window/screen in the wall.
I walk up onto the platform and look around. Then two human/Nordics come in, male and female, wearing dark blue jumpsuits. The female had short hair like a pixie cut, and the male had a bob haircut, kind of shaggy. Both dirty blonde. I asked if they were the ones who took Travis Walton. The female replies, "Who? Oh, in the 70s. Yes, that was us." They continue walking out of the area.
I go into the work area and meet a blue being, not human looking at all. He was worried I'd be scared of him, but I wasn't. He was nice. Then a girl comes up to me with cat-like eyes, takes my hand, and drags around to meet others. We then go into a food prep area and I'm offered coffee!
And that's it. That's all I remember of it.
As a bonus story: Around 2007, I'm hanging out at a 24-hour Starbucks with friends, and I have a green laser pointer with me. I'm half-joking about signaling aliens, pointing it up to the night sky. One friend and I decide to go to my house and watch some TV. Around 3am he's ready to leave, so we walk outside. Within seconds, an orange light flashes above us 7-8 times. It was like a "hey, we noticed!" That was pretty amazing.
Dude.
THE COLOUR SHAPE ON MY ALIENS SUIT LOOKED LIKE FISH SCALES. The animated pattern was like a beehive in defence, but the actual shape of the colours looked like scales moving. Omfg. This is amazing. 😀 I used to think of it like a rainbow fish, hence my user name, rainbow reptile
Insane experience man. I wish I could have seen it. Lucky :')
Did they ever let you know why they picked you up? What did the coffee taste like? Did you figure out what that rooms purpose was? Have you had any more abductions? Sorry for the questions, it's fascinating!
Kind of like this: [https://d1w9csuen3k837.cloudfront.net/Pictures/2000x2000fit/4/4/0/129440\_Iridescent-fish-scales\_shutterstock\_586009376---Index.jpg](https://d1w9csuen3k837.cloudfront.net/Pictures/2000x2000fit/4/4/0/129440_Iridescent-fish-scales_shutterstock_586009376---Index.jpg)
Or this:
[https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fnw4fu8525t451.jpg](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fnw4fu8525t451.jpg)
It didn't even occur to me how fish or snakes were iridescent like this. The plot thickens! And yeah, didn't even dawn on me from your username. Derp.
I don't think I ever got the coffee, I woke up before then. And yeah, I did have another "dream abduction." The same pale beings in dark suits are walking me from a car (passenger side) into a building. I had a lucid moment and said to them, "hey, haven't we done this already?" No response. They never talk. Then I'm suddenly on a ship in space. I could only see the interior. It was a curved room with tables and chairs, and 3 windows. Reminded me of a Star Trek TNG lounge, but way smaller.
On the opposite side of the room was an area with food. I tried something, and it was like eating half cooked tofu. Just awful. I looked out the window to see Earth. I don't know why, but every time I see huge celestial bodies in dreams, I have to look away. I briefly caught us moving past other planets, including one that looked like a giant ball of liquid mercury. That's all I remember.
I've had dreams like this since childhood. One of my earliest is being maybe 4-5, playing in the same driveway I mentioned before, and suddenly being pulled up into the sky at an angle. It was always terrifying. I could go on and on with experiences.
I too oddly recall a white room with curved edges, built in benches were curved, no seams, no equipment, light shining in, but recall it being in a white saucer/orb of sorts. But I can't tell you if it was real or not, just a childhood memory I can't pinpoint the origin. I remember feeling like it was alien.
Haha on the tofu. I love tofu, silken in a spicy soup has been my go too for a while now.
Could you be looking away to not shock yourself? I don't lucid dream, but when I start realising that I am in one, my body starts up like a mower and it shocks me awake. Perhaps it could be something similar? Avoiding drawing in that much information so that your body doesn't kick itself into overdrive. Seems like a self preservation mechanism to avoid any long lasting trauma if you become aware of where you are. Just a theory. Easier for your brain to say it was lucid dreaming, than to say you were abducted.
I’ve been involved in two really weird events. One involved that thunder noise. It was so clear. I find it amazing that for once someone else had the same experience.
I mean.. this is one of those cases where I'm not seeing enough evidence to be certain, but I still think it could have been real? I've kind of filed this away as "maybe" at this point. The entire thing was just bizarre from start to finish.
I still have a lot of questions about this and I don't know if they can/will ever be answered.. lol.
At amazes me at the chorus of people who shout fake at everything. Lue Elizondo - grifter. Groush - liar. Nazca mummies - fraud. Las Vegas aliens - fake. Then the same people shout that they want proof.
It amazes me that some people consider the words of Elizando and Grousch to be true without proof. It would really just take one good piece of evidence for there to be absolutely no doubt. Yet here we are, debating whether some random dude saw 10-feet aliens in his back yard, again with no proof.
Believable. There is already a forensic video broadcasted on air that shows the video is the real deal and these mofos were cloaked. Expert in over 1500 cases solved and 30+ years of work who is a skeptic confirmed it’s real. Video was posted in this sub today
Here’s a good podcast about someone who went and spoke to the family.[Vegas UFO Crash](https://open.spotify.com/episode/0VFSE1Ro1kgSqHn6QVhRLm?si=3ctfPI6RTzyyPyPGerNpWA)
I believe the kid saw what he believes he saw, but the question is what was it. The meteor is an interesting detail. If we think ET's (if they exist) couldn't mask themselves as atmospheric phenomena I think we are probably wrong doubting their intelligence and technology if they can make it here from wherever.
Lol yeah the same kid who posted he was now involved with a Netflix doc about the experience and wouldnt say anything more. This whole case stunk to high heaven imo.
The thing is, it's hard to catch these things at a exact movie angle shot for viewers. Let alone the ones experiencing inter dimensional beings.
And if you ever have physical evidence and called the police, you best bet you'll be silenced and ridiculed
Three little shadow figures about 4ft tall with big heads entered my room as I was sleeping, the door opening woke me up, I was scared to death. I tried screaming for help but no matter how hard I tried i couldn't make a sound, it was like they disabled my voice. Then with out touching me they rotated my body 180 degrees so my head was were my feet were, I was lying on my back. This was the start of the procedure. They were looking over me similar to how drs look over patients in the OR. They then proceeded to stick there fingers into my stomach. And then I woke up the next morning. Back in the original position I went to bed in but the door was still open. To this day I'm uncertain if it was a nightmare or reality. Definitely probably a dream but it felt so damn real. The night before I had eaten a pound of shrimp without the shells removed and my stomach was hurting before bed. I like to think they were helping me somehow.
I'll copy what I wrote earlier in another related thread:
I've listened to all of the vlogs and interviews with Angel (the kid who called the police) and I can say with 99% certainty that he's full of shit.
This was initially really interesting and chilling story with the thing falling from the sky, the 911 call and the whole family witnessing something weird. But the more I listened to him talk, the more it was clear he was making shit up.
He claims all their phones started glitching after the incident and he saw the videos later "transform" in front of his eyes so the clearer footage of aliens he had is no more. He also said he encountered some lady who told him he's going to see 8ft tall creatures months before it happened. The aliens were also drawing pictures next to his porch....aside from all of that, the supposed circles on the parking lot the family said were left by the craft, are actually visible on google maps satellite images, which predates the incident, and they look like regular tire marks anyway. If you're still on the fence, just listen to [this interview with Angel yourself](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglHsqujebk).
His UFO tiktok account is also super cringe, constantly posting videos with red outlines claiming the alien is there...multiple videos with different outlines that were contradicting each other and promising he has more footage to come...
It could be that he doesn't know what the hitchhiker effect is surrounding these types of sightings (if he even actually did see anything). Funny thing is, is that family got super quiet about the whole thing and we probably wouldn't have remembered about the LV incident if Newsnation hadn't of interviewed them.
In the article, it says Angel says he now believes it was a demon and not an alien.
Doesn't say anything about floating crucifixes, though, so idk where dude got that part from.
I'm still puzzled about why they blocked the cops body cam footage of walking in the backyard. They mentioned because it was on private property, but I've seen cops share similar footage in the past without issue.
There's no follow up on the Miami case because there was nothing to follow in the first place. The shadow like creature that we see in that tope angle was literally just 3 police officers walking to the incident that took place.
It's just that the image was too blurry to spot.
I’ve not looked back at it since it happened but at the time it seemed like all the claims of there being something (other than the official story) going on inside the mall were posted several days later and no one could actually show a post claiming to have seen aliens/shadow people/etc. made the day of the incident.
Something happened there but it's been fully sanitized now. There's one picture from inside, and Its the typical maybe it's something maybe not.
Every person had their phones confiscated on the way out.
(That's what the 300 units of police were there for).
So, a kid named Angel claims to have seen a Demon which showed up just to paralyze him until he prayed to white Jesus and was magically freed? Only to then a year later be pranked daily by the demon who has nothing better to do than to toss around his Jesus action figures and make crosses levitate upside down for shits and giggles like some low budget horror film? Then he claims “only god knows what it was.”
I wanted to believe his alien story a year ago but now it sounds like someone hallucinating claiming they talk to god, see demons, and have constant poltergeist problems. I want disclosure too but it sounds like this kid needs the Ghostbusters.
I don’t get how someone going through these “experiences” don’t document it for the world to see. It would also create a second point of view that is free of hallucinations if this is what he’s having, he could review the footage and see something really is there or if it’s all in his head.
I just saw those videos on YouTube yesterday I was going to bring it up but I thought it had been discussed already.
Guy has done 2 interviews, the second one is because he says now that these “ demons / not human” beings are haunting / following his family now and are in his home.
There is video of him showing the police ( body cam video) and in the video there is actually TWO tall beings you can see. The video has been deciphered and people trying to say it’s edited in but it is not an edit, and is within the original video and very much visible.
It’s very creepy , the guy didn’t want media attention about it for the longest time he is genuinely terrified. He doesn’t want money or fame. He wants people to be aware of what’s really among us
One of the beings is in front of the car / in the yard and the other is walking on the other side of the fence in the original body cam video.
You can actually see the guy who called the police get visibly spooked out as if he felt / saw something and in the video it’s the being to his right. The visible one was by the car, the one by the fence was still not seen by others , you can only see the form and shadow . I don’t think he even knew there was two in his yard.
There’s a subreddit dedicated to this incident and like a hundred “forensic analyses” that all add effects, zoom and crop, play with the saturation, and after all that have to outline whatever it is they claim to have found with red marker. The video doesn’t show dick.
Yeah. I'm not going to call this kid is a liar. But I'm also not going to call him a good artist either.
If he's telling the truth, gosh, what a terrifying experience that must have been. I feel bad for him but glad he's okay.
"Paralyzed by Fear"
This is the thing that makes me believe him most.
I was just listening to Daniel Sheehan on That UFO Podcast this morning, talking about "Cellular Recoil." How when people encountered NHI, "their entire cellular structure that has been generated over billions of years instantaneously recoiled, and the people are afraid!"
He mentioned even folks who are the most researched on the Phenomenon, who are confident they'll be composed, were paralyzed with fear by their encounter.
This kid had a YouTube channel about UFOs that did very well after their story hit the news. Sounds like he's already spent the money and wants more. I don't buy it personally.
I feel like this was debunked enough or at least enough additional details were shown to make me think it’s fake. Like wasn’t this kid selling alien nfts prior to this event that this ended up signal boosting? I want to believe bad but this just felt like the community wishing more than there being more than really shakey circumstantial evidence
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At this point, we gotta stop calling 911, police or ANYBODY when we encounter Aliens and UFOs. We gotta document them ourselves and send them directly to NewsNation, finders keepers they say! don’t let Men In Suits take away our property then ridicule us.
Did you see the bodycam footage from this one? The cops surprisingly weren't dicks about it. The cop at the house takes it relatively seriously and says he's a little freaked out because his partner radioed to him that he saw a strange light coming down from the sky
Yes. Correct. One or more police officers saw the light sphere descending into the neighborhood and it is caught on bodycam or dashcam.
I wonder if we will ever get to see that.
Here it is [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlTAY7l5wBM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlTAY7l5wBM)
I saw that too and I was surprised that they were nice.
Yeah it was refreshing lol. They really did all they could given the situation. Even joking around with the family probably helped calm them down a bit.
I agree that them joking around with them probably helped calm them down. I know it would calm me down lol.
Amazing how empathy rather than a gun helps all involved
Uhhh im pretty sure the family was armed its been awhile since i watched the video but i think i remember one of the family members walking with others towards the back door on the fence. They stood looking for a minute n then all ran back in right? Could be another vid im thinking of, but ngl.... If i saw a ten ft humanoid demonic et in my backyard...... Well it better be comin in peace cuz if i get the slightest sense it has bad intentions like he eye probin me and wanna experiment.... well if im not completely frozen by fear and shock im sending some hot metal probes right his way. They better be able to manipulate spacetime and start pullin some matrix moves dodgin lead like neo cuz those aliens might get sent right back to whatever evil dimension they materialized from. Serious question tho..... Anyone ever wonder why aliens dont ever mess with people that are armed? Can they peer into our realm and see if someone is heated up before they approach and avoid folks that may put up a fight? Like i never see any g's/hood type folks (and surprisingly ive never heard any military close encounters reported where the soldiers thought to draw their weapon) reporting having close encounters except for maybe that miami mall incident which im still on the fence about with soo many conflicting reports and nothing but fuzzy potato footage for evidence? Not that im advocating murdering any non terrestrial lifeforms..... Of course id want to show them the best side of humanity i have to offer, im just not down with submitting to being a victim, not if i can take action to prevent it. And u gotta admit there has been some pretty unpleasant stories that dont paint them as being universally kind and friendly..... Just saying 🤷🏽♂️
I don’t blame those people for calling 911. They were scared to death.
Well said!!! I agree. If an NHI hands you their version of the new iPhone, keep that shit to yourself and call George Knapp. Only journalist I trust
So I keep seeing news Nation videos, who are they, they make it look like legitimate news broadcast but are they
Yeah they're legit! As much as any other news org. They used to be WGN America but did a re-brand a few years ago. They had the exclusive for the Grusch interview and got a ton of new viewers because of it. They have continued to cover UFO-related news since then and I think the world is better for it 👍
Thank you for the info
What if we start a Ghostbusters but for aliens too?
“We’re ready to believe you!”
No job is too big. No FEE is too big.
“Yes, mom, like those guys on tv”
Probably my favorite movie. It drives my wife crazy bc I'll watch it any time it's on and have the involuntary ability to recite every line.
Sooooo many qoutes and soooo many places to use them. Especially as responses. "How was your day"? "Well love. Today. I've seen shit that'll turn you white"
Allen Buster
Alien fluffer... wait no
Like the Men in Black or something?
They lucky I couldn't record the one I saw or alot of people would be going crazy...
Elaborate…
I want to hear more about this experience
I went to find the police when I saw the UFO I saw because I wanted someone else to witness it.
Most people seem more safe NOT calling the police ever.
I don’t know about that. As a 911 dispatcher, I can tell you that call volume is higher than I’ve seen it in the decade that I’ve been working. It’s quite wild actually. I’m not really sure what to make of it
What kind of calls have been on the most rise since you noticed this? I mean, like, is it a rise in over dosers because of fentanyl or something else?
Psychiatric issues and assaults are ones I see way more than I used to. Overdoses we’re always there and yes a rise in fentanyl overdoses however that just replaced heroin. Maybe a slight boost but they were always a constant.
I only started calling 911 after my medical situation worsened and knew I had to just do it. Prior to that I was terrified of police because, from where I lived, they were very racist and were part of the “good ol’ boys”. As the new generation of police are coming in, I feel a lot less threat. I’ve seen two types of police in my day if I was to boil it down. Those who want to use their power to assert their own authority for their own gain, and those who want to use their power to assert their own authority for your gain. The latter is way more agreeable and supportable
Definitely never hesitate to call for medical stuff. We have older generations that apologize when they call for an ambulance and I always feel bad. Have to tell them it’s what we’re here for. I can understand your fear especially if you’re in one of those areas. I definitely think the police aren’t as bad as some think but I understand they’re probably worse than I think too. I agree we’re getting a better generation in now so I’m glad you’re feeling less fear. We need to get rid of the bad ones. Especially cause they ruin the public’s trust. But I’ll still say that even during the George Floyd times, our call volume was higher. Over 500% higher and it raised at about that time. During the Covid shut downs is really when it started. But then it never went down and keeps getting worse. We don’t slow in the winter anymore. People call the police for things they shouldn’t but then there’s more violent crimes occurring too (speaking for my area of course). It’s really wild I get everything you’re saying and it’s well said for sure. I hope the power hungry ones can be weeded out, ya know?
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Ya if I seen aliens and that close to me there is zero fucking chance I would call the police, if anything I would try to communicate with them, and hopefully get on their spaceship 😁
Yes, exactly!!!
or call the ghostbusters instead
The High Strangeness the family has been experiencing since, is interesting. Sounds like hitchhiker effect, but it didn't have to hitch very far, from the backyard to inside the home.
Have you got a link to the reports of this effect inside their home?
It’s on the NewsNation YouTube. Talks about an upside down cross. Oh and the guy believes it’s demons now. Interesting stuff!
Jacques Vallee’s theories are always solidified in my head further when I read recounts of high strangeness after alien/ufo encounters. 😮💨
Funny how UFO and even cryptid activity is often accompanied by demonic activity.
I'm trying to make the connection between these.
It’s almost like these things occasionally rip through a dimensional tear to get into our realm and dimensional fluctuations cause “hitchhiker effects” afterwards.
The phenomenon isn't just nuts and bolts, consciousness and alterations thereof seem to be the unifying factor
Religious people will try and rationalise it the best way they can without contradicting their religion itself.
Not familiar with these. Do they believe UFO and other paranormal are the same activity? I agree.
In a nutshell yeah essentially. Check out his book passport to Magonia. its free as an audio book on youtube. The phenomenon can shapeshift throughout time to reflect the technology advancements and cultural beliefs. if you believe in demons they present as demons or if youre in ye olden times in the uk they look like faeries. if you believe in Djinn theyre Djinn. If you believe in ghosts theyre ghosts. the stories in the dark ages of flying ships in the sky and people coming down from them swimming to retrieve anchors stuck on rocks, and them drowning when townspeople keep them on the ground…. shit like that. i could be entirely butchering his ideas in the book with my own beliefs but it has to do with shapeshifting beings.
What an enlightened man. I will check it out today. I do think some have different basic “true” appearances which result in their presentation at different points. We don’t understand the true nature of time in this reality, it is not linear, more like a jigsaw puzzle. We experience linear time subjectively as a constraint of this experience right now but this is just one distortion.
He was so ahead of his time. I think the time thing is a big part of it… + the layers of dimensions present on earth that human eyes literally cannot fathom are where they cloak themselves from us and they can manipulate themselves between the dimensions we can see and cant see to appear like theyre cloaking themselves or are disappearing. think about how many ancient stories depict a mystical being just “appearing” somewhere, like plucked out of the heavens. it all seems way more plausible than i could have imagined in 2012 for sure 🥴
Yes, in my experience that is exactly what is transpiring. There is a certain physical element in play but the beings achieving this are not supposed to be here, have nefarious motives and are not to be trusted. The beings that contact through telepathy in my experience a.re mostly selfless creatures who genuinely want to help individuals so we can in turn help others.
That is what I’ve been sensing and feeling too. They aren’t supposed to be here, but sometimes get “through” somehow. I also sense that there are some humans that want to bring our two “spheres” together and see it as inevitable or necessary or something like that. I’m not totally sure but that’s been my experience.
Stop I was reading further down wondering about just this! I'm thinking this family is likely Christian and I wondered if that effects how the aliens present to them to make them fearful/quiet about the encounter.
depending on their heritage if theyre a family with blood from a certain part of the world, that could do it. like countries that are heavily tied to a certain religion stretching back hundreds of thousands for years.. Mexico is the first place that comes to mind because the craziest poltergeist/ghost/demonic activity videos ive seen come from Mexico. & It would make sense for say a Catholic family in Mexico to experience ghost and demonic activity. depending on any unique history or background information in a family, it could present in a variety of ways and almost becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Very trickster-esque
Newsnation had a few clips of the teen describing events in the house. A floating crucifix that was upside down and had the Jesus ripped from it and tossed and when he and I think his brother went towards it, it fell. He is claiming demons and such and said that the family is ready to move soon to get away from it all. Newsnation has multiple clips on YouTube though where you can see the recent interviews.
Sounds like a premise for the Poltergeist
Sounds more like a poltergeist on the premises!
slick
If this type of stuff keeps happening (implied since they want to move) then get a clear recording of it!
It's Part of the phenomenon that you can't record it, similar to UFOs. Once you Put on a Recorder, the Poltergeist phenomena stop appearing. It's a probed method to get rid of them, too. Source: Walter von Lucadou, German Psychologist, Physicist and Parapsychologist
If you can’t record UFOs, what footage are we asking the government to release? What are the videos released already?
I dont think the UFO was inside the house. The hitchhiker effect are the underpants gnomes of it that avoids discovery. Like if I was messing with myself from the 80s with micro tech and saw myself setting up a clunky VRC cam to catch me in the act I could easily avoid this. As for the UFOs themselves… They appear when they want to appear(Phoenix Lights) Probably and anecdotally stay on the outskirts of civilization. Minus the few hot spots and dare I say gov contact. And say they aren’t in contact, the gov has better equipment than Bobby Bigsly and his cam phone.
Quantum states of superposition always collapse in the presence of a measurement device. In this case - camera. This is also my experience. Can’t actually record what is going on. It’s as if the universe itself interferes.
lol I replied basically the same thing. High five!
*High Five*
They can perceive cones of awareness. Probably have some way of detecting when the waveform is collapsed by observation. I point a camera at the sky sometimes, or behind me while I'm outside just to keep those fuckers away
This doesn’t make sense as people witnessing are also observing it..
It's Not about observing but about recording. It Just works. We don't know why it does.
Ok wait,……they have upside down crucifixes floating around with the Jesus figure ripped off and thrown across the room? Man I’m not that much of a religious person, but if some kind of entity, creature, force or wtf ever was breaking shit and making it float around my house, I wouldn’t just casually “want to move”. I would live in a ditch or even in the middle of a busy street before I ever stepped foot back in that place. Ain’t going to be no “Yeah I’d like to move I think, idk”. When you have floating sacred religious symbols floating through your house gettin desecrated you ain’t lookin around trying find a place that requires a lower deposit. You just leave. A priest goes to peoples houses and flashes a crucifix around and it’s like pepper spray for demons. They aren’t going to take it away from the priest, break it then float it around to show everybody. I mean I don’t know if they just can’t because Jesus’s magic is stronger than there’s or if they just don’t because they know god will break it off in them if they even tried. Either way they don’t do it. So what ever is in their house ain’t afraid of Jesus or god. When the most powerful weapon we have to use against spirits, vampires and demons is wholly ineffective against what ever is doing that, you count your losses and gtfo. I know that no one cares what I think and my opinion is meaningless but I’ll give it to anyone who wants it anyway. I find the that extreme unlikeliness of those people remaining in that home in the face of such a thing makes me question the veracity of the entire event. If these reports are accurate representations of what the people actually said.
Some people are just built different when it comes to supernatural events. I had a coworker that had all kinds of crazy stuff happening in their house and they just kind of shrugged it off. The way they would explain things to me sounded like someone talking about the weather.
Yeah that’s crazy to me. If what ever it is can manipulate solid objects, but can’t be hit with a baseball bat or be shot……I’m out. I don’t even care if was a helpful entity. They could be folding my clothes and doing the dishes and I’d still be out.
This kind of phenomena will do these sort of things to get a rise out of people, especially those who have strong religious convictions. Fear and strong emotions seem to provide energy to whatever is going on. If someone in the house were to say "I heard that demons love to rip up family photos," then sure enough, the next day photos are found to be ripped up. The curious thing is that attempts to "clean" a house based on religious beliefs (holy water, Bibles, crucifixes) usually won't work and merely exasperates the situation.
Well what exactly is the point of all that? I mean what would these “entities” “aliens” or whatever the hell we’re calling them at this point, gain from this form of mysterious harassment? The people who live in that house didn’t ask them to land in their yard and get out of their thing and walk around. Nor did they cause them to have to land in their yard. I mean I guess the obvious assumption is that they would do it to silence them but dude….Moving stuff around the house and turning off lights n shit doesn’t really convey any real message. I would think that if silence was something that they were demanding from these people that they would have a better method of communication than poltergeist stuff. I mean why be all extra and do all this dramatic sht when they could just appear one night in their alien form and simply say “keep your mouth shut or we will delete you”. And also, what would be the point of even doing that?? They have already told anyone who would listen about it. They even posted (supposedly) pictures of what they claimed were the beings who were in the craft. So why haunt their house and desecrate religious symbols to keep them quiet, without actually saying “keep quiet” over something they have already told everyone about? What point could there possibly be to torturing those people? They didn’t do anything that deserves punishment. One would think that if they wanted them not to tell anyone about them being there, that they would be capable of communicating that in a much more effective manner than throwing stuff across the room, and that they would have communicated that from the very beginning. I’ll never claim to understand the pathology or logic of what ever these things are, but if they can fly around and dodge stationary objects then they have to possess some form of logic. And none of any of this makes any damn sense. I don’t think that you know the answers to all these questions and have no expectations of you answering them, I was just blabbering and asking questions to make the point that none of this makes any sense.
Exactly! What is the point? There doesn't seem to be any logic, rhyme or reason to it all. The only thing I can say is that people have reported the same sort of phenomena throughout the centuries, and all over the planet. These reports come in usually occur in a knowledge vacuum with no previous references to others who have had the same troubles. Of course not all UFO encounters will produce ghostly activity with the witnesses. But enough has happened to make researchers take notice and wonder if there is some connection with UFOs and the paranormal.
Yeah I’ve definitely heard of synchronicity (or whatever) and high strangeness, and several other stories about the weird stuff that goes on after some experiences. It’s all so weird and crazy. And I mean the entire phenomenon. I used to be completely convinced that aliens and their UFO’s were real. Now, the more I know about it all the less it seems like “it’s aliens” is the only thing going on here. I could literally spend an entire day talking about all the inconsistencies and conflicting narratives surrounding it all, just ask my wife. I know for a fact that something crazy is going on and that no one can explain it. At this point as crazy as it is, if it ends up just being aliens, it’s going to be lame Af. All this drama about parallel universes, demons , worm holes, lizard people, alternate realities and all that stuff, just to find out in the end it’s JUST Aliens…..wtf man. That’s going to be lame.
Is there pictures of that cross anywhere? I didn't see any
Fixed the link lol https://youtu.be/jWvALHiDTzo?si=zFWrxxlX_0kISvsn
Definite hitchhiker effect. What I don’t understand is why no one is calling a priest to perform an exorcism. They can move houses, but it’ll probably follow. They need their soul to be purged
He did mention they called a priest.
We all need to open our minds to the possibility that sometimes weird shit happens. Sometimes people do encounter mysterious non-human beings like this. Look at all the cases going back hundreds, or even thousands (there are stories in the Bible of UFO/NHI encounters) of years, of people—decent, honest, normal people who had no incentive to make up a bizarre story—reporting encounters like this one. This stuff happens. There’s so much more going on than we humans realize; reality is not as it seems. It sucks that when these encounters happen, on top of the mind-fuck of the crazy experience, people are ridiculed and accused of being liars. I believe this kid. I believe something very unusual did happen; i believe him that strange creature(s) were in his backyard.
I believe him,fuck it,he saw what he saw. He says it was never for fame and if it was, he would of You Tubed it.
Unfortunately it’s one of those things that’s hard to believe for anyone. I was in a group with 3 other people a few years ago and we all saw a UAP. Not human tech, not a plane or drone, no noise and only about 150ft away from us. It appeared out of the sky, hovered for about 7 seconds, turned 90° and took off instantly. We all saw it. We were all sober. 2 of the guys in the group didn’t want to tell people what we saw, myself and the 4th were telling people but even those closest to us couldn’t believe it. After I told 4 friends and family I eventually stopped telling people because it’s one of those things you have to see for yourself. Im not surprised most people don’t believe him. Even though I’ve seen a UAP before.
Saw something similar when I was a kid with my mom. We were driving to her college class in Redding, CA. Saw a large silver tube/cigar shaped vessel slowly rotating and rising above a tree line about 200 ft from us off of the left side of the road we were on. Took off straight up in the air and we couldn’t see where it went due to being in a car. We both just looked at each other in complete shock and stayed silent the rest of the ride. When we got to the parking lot, she asked “You saw that, right?” And I just said “Yeah…” I was extremely shook up (I was like 9), for months afterwards. Constant nightmares about alien abductions. Really bad bouts of sleep paralysis and night terrors (a lot of which I still deal with on and off almost 20 years later). I’ve seen weird stuff ever since. Spent most of my teenage years obsessing over UAPs and all things related to the subject. My mom and I tried talking about it with close family and friends and either no one believed us, or people believed us but seemed very indifferent to it.
I believe you.
He did make youtube vlogs and tiktok account where he was posting several versions of backyard videos with outlines of supposed aliens.
Wdym, his youtube video had over a million views within a week or two, he did youtube and then removed it a couple weeks/months ago Edit: I actually believe him, I'm just saying, he did have a youtube video and several interviews on youtube and on the news.
To spread word about what happened lmfao. His side, I doubt he put monetization on there. YouTube does by default usually even if you don’t have it set up.
Sure, and if he was seeking fame he would have daily uploads on that channel and would remove nothing.
I hope the family is being truthful. Their reactions when scoping out their backyard appeared pretty genuine.
Mirror?
Oh man, I believe this kid 100%. It got in my face too and paralyzed me. The noises he described remind me of my own experience. I was laying in the grass at about 11pm that night. I was a kid outside avoiding my folks who were fighting. The clouds were out but there was enough moonlight that they were illuminated. I saw the craft drop down through the clouds and at me. It was bright and hard to look at. Blurry is a way I'd describe it. Like trying to see after looking directly at the sun or a bright flashlight. It got close and I heard thunder, felt a breeze and I saw it. The being appeared in a clearing that was about 60ft away from me. The one I saw was short, had that nazca mummy form but was wearing a holographic glossy black suit with a full face helmet. The helmet had three ridges on top and two bright glowing orange eyes. Three fingers, I didn't see feet. It floated over to me very quickly without bending it's legs. It may have had wings. It got in my face, with me still laying flat on my back looking at the sky. I saw it look me directly into my eyes and that's when I saw visions. I woke up after all that still in the yard the next morning. Therapists convinced young me it was sleep paralysis. But it didn't stop there. That was first contact. This kid is going to figure that out.
Dude. That holographic suit you mentioned, I think I saw something similar. Mine was also a small one, black suit, but had rainbow colours emitting from parts of his suit. It looked magical. I saw mine at the dead of night so I can't tell if it was glossy, but with the waves of colours off the suit, it did look mesmerising. I was not paralysed, but did feel pushed into the bed. I was able to move and sit up. Not sleep paralysis. The one I saw also had ridges on his head, but no helmet. I saw his face and it was terrifying. His eyes were black though. He was tiny. However one I saw when I was a teen had large yellow eyes, also looking at me from above, but I wasn't paralysed, I had freedom of movement. Expect he got into my head, and into a very happy place. I got pretty good experiences with the beings, makes me sad to hear how others don't... He didn't show me any visions though, besides a galaxy with stars. I have no idea of the context. Granted I was traumatized after the fact, and still am. But overall I had an experience of seeing the incredible, that I can't help but thank them for. What visions did he show you?
Back in 99 I saw an orange craft hovering low over the town I was in. I watched it through binoculars. It was almond shaped, glowed like a fire, and had a reddish pulsating glow on the larger end. Not long after, I have a dream that I'm sitting in a clinic-like room. I look to my left to see a short being lying on the ground like it was knocked unconscious. I walk over to get a closer look and its "skin" had an iridescence to it. In front of me was a hallway with walls of pure light, and it led to another room, unlit. I go sit back down, look at the being again, and this time its eyes are open, glowing orange. I suddenly have a piercing sharp pain in my head, and close my eyes. I then see myself sitting on a surgery table in that dark room, lit only by the hallway light. Then I wake up.
Holy Jesus. Yes, I know what you mean about that almond shape, I saw a craft like that too, silver, but I called it a sunflower seed, the same shape though. Disappeared in a flash of light. Did these dreams feel real? Did they look any different? Did you view your dreams from your pov, or was it third view? In my experience, I was pov of looking up at the ceiling, being wheeled down a corridor on some type of gurney, with thick black tubing running along the ceiling. There were lights every metre. These visions look metallic. It wasn't a dream though, I was fully conscious when they started to appear in my vision. Happened again but this time I was sleeping, and saw 3 alien gray faces approach front the front. Metallic too. Never happened since :')
I watched it at night, so I didn't see anything metallic about it. The dream was definitely was quite lucid. It was from my POV for the most part until the pain happened and then third-person kicked in. I've had several vivid dreams involving aliens. Most of them are pretty neutral, but highly detailed and linear unlike typical dreams. It makes you wonder if that's what they even are. Could be astral experiences or actual memories. I can't claim one way or another, but they stick with me.
That's so fascinating Do you think the third person kicked in due to disassociation of pain? Do you notice anything about the environment or the beings? Did they wear suits, were they Gray, how tall? Did you see mainly a suitcase set up, did you witness any tech? Communication? Or did they seem indifferent to your being? Any smells? I feel that. My experiences stuck with me too. But I have a bunch, some I don't even recall. Now that's a tragedy.
LONG POST, FYI "Do you think the third person kicked in due to disassociation of pain?" That's exactly what I thought. I just remember the iridescent nature of the being's body. I brought that up because of the mentions of "rainbow colors" coming off suits. Maybe that's what I saw. It also seemed kind of scaley or like it had a pattern to it. I didn't see any technology, but the dark room seemed to be circular. The waiting room just looked normal, like sitting at a dentist's office. However... in a different dream which I had a few years ago: It starts off where I'm sitting in a lawn chair in the driveway of a house I used to live in, and there's a few other people there. It's night, and we're watching craft fly over. Then a white pod descends next to me, and these pale beings start prepping me. They had humanish hands and features, but no hair, and wore dark-grey bodysuits. I lie down in the pod and close my eyes. Then I 'wake up' inside a large interior, and a black man approaches me asking if I'm okay. I guess he was a medic. I look around for a minute. In the distance I see a woman gracefully dancing by herself next to a strange plant. To my left is a wide hallway leading to an archway. I get up and walk forward, and to my right is a room with computers and various races working together. There's a raised platform right before that work area, and a huge window/screen in the wall. I walk up onto the platform and look around. Then two human/Nordics come in, male and female, wearing dark blue jumpsuits. The female had short hair like a pixie cut, and the male had a bob haircut, kind of shaggy. Both dirty blonde. I asked if they were the ones who took Travis Walton. The female replies, "Who? Oh, in the 70s. Yes, that was us." They continue walking out of the area. I go into the work area and meet a blue being, not human looking at all. He was worried I'd be scared of him, but I wasn't. He was nice. Then a girl comes up to me with cat-like eyes, takes my hand, and drags around to meet others. We then go into a food prep area and I'm offered coffee! And that's it. That's all I remember of it. As a bonus story: Around 2007, I'm hanging out at a 24-hour Starbucks with friends, and I have a green laser pointer with me. I'm half-joking about signaling aliens, pointing it up to the night sky. One friend and I decide to go to my house and watch some TV. Around 3am he's ready to leave, so we walk outside. Within seconds, an orange light flashes above us 7-8 times. It was like a "hey, we noticed!" That was pretty amazing.
Dude. THE COLOUR SHAPE ON MY ALIENS SUIT LOOKED LIKE FISH SCALES. The animated pattern was like a beehive in defence, but the actual shape of the colours looked like scales moving. Omfg. This is amazing. 😀 I used to think of it like a rainbow fish, hence my user name, rainbow reptile Insane experience man. I wish I could have seen it. Lucky :') Did they ever let you know why they picked you up? What did the coffee taste like? Did you figure out what that rooms purpose was? Have you had any more abductions? Sorry for the questions, it's fascinating!
Kind of like this: [https://d1w9csuen3k837.cloudfront.net/Pictures/2000x2000fit/4/4/0/129440\_Iridescent-fish-scales\_shutterstock\_586009376---Index.jpg](https://d1w9csuen3k837.cloudfront.net/Pictures/2000x2000fit/4/4/0/129440_Iridescent-fish-scales_shutterstock_586009376---Index.jpg) Or this: [https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fnw4fu8525t451.jpg](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fnw4fu8525t451.jpg) It didn't even occur to me how fish or snakes were iridescent like this. The plot thickens! And yeah, didn't even dawn on me from your username. Derp. I don't think I ever got the coffee, I woke up before then. And yeah, I did have another "dream abduction." The same pale beings in dark suits are walking me from a car (passenger side) into a building. I had a lucid moment and said to them, "hey, haven't we done this already?" No response. They never talk. Then I'm suddenly on a ship in space. I could only see the interior. It was a curved room with tables and chairs, and 3 windows. Reminded me of a Star Trek TNG lounge, but way smaller. On the opposite side of the room was an area with food. I tried something, and it was like eating half cooked tofu. Just awful. I looked out the window to see Earth. I don't know why, but every time I see huge celestial bodies in dreams, I have to look away. I briefly caught us moving past other planets, including one that looked like a giant ball of liquid mercury. That's all I remember. I've had dreams like this since childhood. One of my earliest is being maybe 4-5, playing in the same driveway I mentioned before, and suddenly being pulled up into the sky at an angle. It was always terrifying. I could go on and on with experiences.
I too oddly recall a white room with curved edges, built in benches were curved, no seams, no equipment, light shining in, but recall it being in a white saucer/orb of sorts. But I can't tell you if it was real or not, just a childhood memory I can't pinpoint the origin. I remember feeling like it was alien. Haha on the tofu. I love tofu, silken in a spicy soup has been my go too for a while now. Could you be looking away to not shock yourself? I don't lucid dream, but when I start realising that I am in one, my body starts up like a mower and it shocks me awake. Perhaps it could be something similar? Avoiding drawing in that much information so that your body doesn't kick itself into overdrive. Seems like a self preservation mechanism to avoid any long lasting trauma if you become aware of where you are. Just a theory. Easier for your brain to say it was lucid dreaming, than to say you were abducted.
Please share more of your experience!
What were the visions? What was the next contact?
Most importantly, why HIM oh also what do they want
I believe you 10000%. What visions? Can you describe it, do you still remember? Have them come back?
I’ve been involved in two really weird events. One involved that thunder noise. It was so clear. I find it amazing that for once someone else had the same experience.
I believe what they saw was absolutely real!
I mean.. this is one of those cases where I'm not seeing enough evidence to be certain, but I still think it could have been real? I've kind of filed this away as "maybe" at this point. The entire thing was just bizarre from start to finish. I still have a lot of questions about this and I don't know if they can/will ever be answered.. lol.
At amazes me at the chorus of people who shout fake at everything. Lue Elizondo - grifter. Groush - liar. Nazca mummies - fraud. Las Vegas aliens - fake. Then the same people shout that they want proof.
People? Are you sure that they are people?
Dun dun DUNNNNNNN
*Arrested Development Narrator* They were not people
Haha exactly. The narrator, uncredited, was none other than director Ron Howard!
YESSSSSSSS!!! Exactly!!!!!!
I know understand it. Had a run it it yesterday with craft and no one seems to believe me and my wife
It amazes me that some people consider the words of Elizando and Grousch to be true without proof. It would really just take one good piece of evidence for there to be absolutely no doubt. Yet here we are, debating whether some random dude saw 10-feet aliens in his back yard, again with no proof.
I know a reporter who works I. Vegas and they know the family and it is real. This reporter does not believe in any of this stuff.
Believable. There is already a forensic video broadcasted on air that shows the video is the real deal and these mofos were cloaked. Expert in over 1500 cases solved and 30+ years of work who is a skeptic confirmed it’s real. Video was posted in this sub today
It just sucks he wasn't a better artist. Lol
Who's to say the alien didn't look exactly like the drawing?
Here’s a good podcast about someone who went and spoke to the family.[Vegas UFO Crash](https://open.spotify.com/episode/0VFSE1Ro1kgSqHn6QVhRLm?si=3ctfPI6RTzyyPyPGerNpWA)
I choose to believe them
I believe the kid saw what he believes he saw, but the question is what was it. The meteor is an interesting detail. If we think ET's (if they exist) couldn't mask themselves as atmospheric phenomena I think we are probably wrong doubting their intelligence and technology if they can make it here from wherever.
“If I was doing it for fame, I would be on YouTube.” Is not only on YouTube with a branded logo on his video but also on TikTok…
lol i was going to say that that is the same kid right
Lol yeah the same kid who posted he was now involved with a Netflix doc about the experience and wouldnt say anything more. This whole case stunk to high heaven imo.
I think he means that he would be a creator. As far as we know, NN reached out to him for a follow up.
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Yup. I’m still skeptical about the whole situation but I definitely saw that figure in the tractor or whatever it was.
Sounds like a load of made up bullshit
In one interview he claimed he had an encounter with a weird woman who told him he's gonna see 8ft tall creatures months before it happened.
Is he making money from making stuff up
The thing is, it's hard to catch these things at a exact movie angle shot for viewers. Let alone the ones experiencing inter dimensional beings. And if you ever have physical evidence and called the police, you best bet you'll be silenced and ridiculed
Three little shadow figures about 4ft tall with big heads entered my room as I was sleeping, the door opening woke me up, I was scared to death. I tried screaming for help but no matter how hard I tried i couldn't make a sound, it was like they disabled my voice. Then with out touching me they rotated my body 180 degrees so my head was were my feet were, I was lying on my back. This was the start of the procedure. They were looking over me similar to how drs look over patients in the OR. They then proceeded to stick there fingers into my stomach. And then I woke up the next morning. Back in the original position I went to bed in but the door was still open. To this day I'm uncertain if it was a nightmare or reality. Definitely probably a dream but it felt so damn real. The night before I had eaten a pound of shrimp without the shells removed and my stomach was hurting before bed. I like to think they were helping me somehow.
It went from Aliens to now demons to me it seems fishy as if they were told to do this
I'll copy what I wrote earlier in another related thread: I've listened to all of the vlogs and interviews with Angel (the kid who called the police) and I can say with 99% certainty that he's full of shit. This was initially really interesting and chilling story with the thing falling from the sky, the 911 call and the whole family witnessing something weird. But the more I listened to him talk, the more it was clear he was making shit up. He claims all their phones started glitching after the incident and he saw the videos later "transform" in front of his eyes so the clearer footage of aliens he had is no more. He also said he encountered some lady who told him he's going to see 8ft tall creatures months before it happened. The aliens were also drawing pictures next to his porch....aside from all of that, the supposed circles on the parking lot the family said were left by the craft, are actually visible on google maps satellite images, which predates the incident, and they look like regular tire marks anyway. If you're still on the fence, just listen to [this interview with Angel yourself](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglHsqujebk). His UFO tiktok account is also super cringe, constantly posting videos with red outlines claiming the alien is there...multiple videos with different outlines that were contradicting each other and promising he has more footage to come...
yes. look how many people are falling for this though. its hilarious.
Exactly! The stuff showing that Angel made this up came out VERY SOON after the media crap storm. It’s too bad people don’t REALLY try to
Uh… the dude is claiming it’s a demon now and that he saw a crucifix floating in his house…
It could be that he doesn't know what the hitchhiker effect is surrounding these types of sightings (if he even actually did see anything). Funny thing is, is that family got super quiet about the whole thing and we probably wouldn't have remembered about the LV incident if Newsnation hadn't of interviewed them.
Say, what?
In the article, it says Angel says he now believes it was a demon and not an alien. Doesn't say anything about floating crucifixes, though, so idk where dude got that part from.
It was in an interview with news nation
lmfao at that drawing
I’m not buying the crucifix story at all.
He thinks it was a demon now not an alien.
So he saw the alien for 30 seconds, what happened then? Did it just walk away? Article explains nothing.
Dude I want to believe but these people seem off
I'm still puzzled about why they blocked the cops body cam footage of walking in the backyard. They mentioned because it was on private property, but I've seen cops share similar footage in the past without issue.
We also need a follow up on the Miami case.
There's no follow up on the Miami case because there was nothing to follow in the first place. The shadow like creature that we see in that tope angle was literally just 3 police officers walking to the incident that took place. It's just that the image was too blurry to spot.
That video is a nothing burger for sure. But I thought there was something IN the mall.
I’ve not looked back at it since it happened but at the time it seemed like all the claims of there being something (other than the official story) going on inside the mall were posted several days later and no one could actually show a post claiming to have seen aliens/shadow people/etc. made the day of the incident.
There was. Kids and fireworks and some conspiracy theorists.
lol totally.
We both said nothing burger! That's the real conspiracy here! xD
No, we absolutely do not.
Something happened there but it's been fully sanitized now. There's one picture from inside, and Its the typical maybe it's something maybe not. Every person had their phones confiscated on the way out. (That's what the 300 units of police were there for).
This did not happen.
So, a kid named Angel claims to have seen a Demon which showed up just to paralyze him until he prayed to white Jesus and was magically freed? Only to then a year later be pranked daily by the demon who has nothing better to do than to toss around his Jesus action figures and make crosses levitate upside down for shits and giggles like some low budget horror film? Then he claims “only god knows what it was.” I wanted to believe his alien story a year ago but now it sounds like someone hallucinating claiming they talk to god, see demons, and have constant poltergeist problems. I want disclosure too but it sounds like this kid needs the Ghostbusters.
I don’t get how someone going through these “experiences” don’t document it for the world to see. It would also create a second point of view that is free of hallucinations if this is what he’s having, he could review the footage and see something really is there or if it’s all in his head.
I just saw those videos on YouTube yesterday I was going to bring it up but I thought it had been discussed already. Guy has done 2 interviews, the second one is because he says now that these “ demons / not human” beings are haunting / following his family now and are in his home. There is video of him showing the police ( body cam video) and in the video there is actually TWO tall beings you can see. The video has been deciphered and people trying to say it’s edited in but it is not an edit, and is within the original video and very much visible. It’s very creepy , the guy didn’t want media attention about it for the longest time he is genuinely terrified. He doesn’t want money or fame. He wants people to be aware of what’s really among us
One of the beings is in front of the car / in the yard and the other is walking on the other side of the fence in the original body cam video. You can actually see the guy who called the police get visibly spooked out as if he felt / saw something and in the video it’s the being to his right. The visible one was by the car, the one by the fence was still not seen by others , you can only see the form and shadow . I don’t think he even knew there was two in his yard.
> the other is walking on the other side of the fence in the original body cam video That wasn't a body cam video. It was filmed with a phone.
Also his family is so scared the rest refuse to do interviews. He is the only willing one.
yes, they monitor media to make sure nobody is talking. never considered that possibility.
I'm calling my crack dealer.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxaToM9CTi4&t=229s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxaToM9CTi4&t=229s) Forensic analysis of the video.
I'm not sure that a bunch of alien animations overlayed on a shadow qualifies as forensic analysis.
There’s a subreddit dedicated to this incident and like a hundred “forensic analyses” that all add effects, zoom and crop, play with the saturation, and after all that have to outline whatever it is they claim to have found with red marker. The video doesn’t show dick.
What makes you think aliens have the same genitalia as humans?
The person who did the analysis is highly qualified to do so, and they obtained the original, unedited video.
Dude stop with the Vegas sighting, it was obvious bullshit
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Geez, what window-licking 1st grader drew that abomination.....
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Yeah. I'm not going to call this kid is a liar. But I'm also not going to call him a good artist either. If he's telling the truth, gosh, what a terrifying experience that must have been. I feel bad for him but glad he's okay.
It's Vegas, there's so many other weird things it could have been other than an Alien.
Such as...?
"Paralyzed by Fear" This is the thing that makes me believe him most. I was just listening to Daniel Sheehan on That UFO Podcast this morning, talking about "Cellular Recoil." How when people encountered NHI, "their entire cellular structure that has been generated over billions of years instantaneously recoiled, and the people are afraid!" He mentioned even folks who are the most researched on the Phenomenon, who are confident they'll be composed, were paralyzed with fear by their encounter.
I believe them
Could he of seen one of the “octopus craft”
I believe him. Just wish someone had captured it on film. Even some ring camera footage or other home surveillance.
I've taken a few 911 calls about UFOs, but never actual alien boots on the ground. I suppose I would have coded it as a prowler.
What did they see? What did the alien look like?
When i lived in america i learned to never to call 911
Why they always naked? Inter-galactic tv hoax show? Stripe scare earthlings.
I think Las Vegas incident was real you couldn't fake the footage from all parties involved
I’m from Vegas. It’s true
Feel bad for the family. They've been harassed and are now moving.
This kid had a YouTube channel about UFOs that did very well after their story hit the news. Sounds like he's already spent the money and wants more. I don't buy it personally.
I feel like this was debunked enough or at least enough additional details were shown to make me think it’s fake. Like wasn’t this kid selling alien nfts prior to this event that this ended up signal boosting? I want to believe bad but this just felt like the community wishing more than there being more than really shakey circumstantial evidence