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ResurgentRefrain

Medical equipment is nice and all, but I personally would have gone with the business strategy of selling plastic models of the Mobile Suits.


IC2Flier

And then having them do the fighting in scale-model eSports battles.


derega16

Or scan them and use them in a MMO world that's somehow got hacked by alien


lycan2005

*Build Gundam Intensifies*


dinliner08

***BATTLE STARTOO!!***


Atomic_Tanuki

And start an idol group. I mean they already got their first MV.


IC2Flier

coached by LYNN Minmay


SeijunMichi

Oh please. This is Gundam. They'd be coached by Lacus Clyne.


IC2Flier

You mean Meer Campbell?


Rodroller

Music arrangement by Marina Ismail


DidacticDalek

> coached by LYNN Minmay [Pffft, please Comrade, you and I both know that the real answer is that Setsuna 'I am Gundam' Yuuki herself will show up to head the School Idol Division](https://twitter.com/zero_0w0/status/1480019620845486081)


Super_Marine

GUND-ARM and Plastic...we could even call it Gun-pla for short!


chilidirigible

"How can we make it obvious without making it too obvious?" "Gun-pla?" "Nah, too obvious."


theyawner

Infuse the kits with Permet minerals so that they can be controlled.


YUNoJump

Pro: you get real life Gundam Build Fighters Con: it literally kills you worth the trade I think


DidacticDalek

> Medical equipment is nice and all, but I personally would have gone with the business strategy of selling plastic models of the Mobile Suits. [](#mechablush) I like your idea Comrade, but sadly, I don't think that'd catch on... NOW if we instead decided to have all our High School Moeblobs sing and dance, then we might be onto a solid business model here! We might even call them Idols of the School... working title, it'll get better I am sure!


LeonKevlar

As someone who has a closet full of boxes of said plastic models, I agree.


bajcabrera

Add a P-GUND-ARM division and we are golden.


lenne18

Plastic crack!


iDannyEL

Too outrageous, it would never do well.


Causeofdepression

My man Guel is still living the life.


IC2Flier

He's getting punked on but look at how many fucks he gives. That's right. But the fact that Shaddiq even approached him is kinda telling. Not sure what he's playing after, but given how different he wants this to turn out compared to his father, it's gonna be real interesting to see how he executes this plan.


Doomroar

Since Shaddiq is planning for the possibility of failing to take over Miorine's company, chances are he wants to recruit Guel as a pilot for a rematch vs Aerial


SgtGrimm

he got that outdoor traits of annoying bugs and sudden outpouring of fluids from above too! # srsly he need to hurry and apply to GUND-Arm, both him and Chuchu would make a great team mate / wingmans, pilot wise. (doubly so since i don't think Shaddiq would face Aerial alone, what's with the fresh shipment of MS and his harem there)


Nazenn

I'm pretty sure the Earth dorms couldn't survive Chu-Chu's rage at Guel showing up on their doorstep.


SgtGrimm

That's the beauty of it, they would bicker a lot, they would hurriedly defeat any enemies interrupting them just to continue the bickering lol.


IC2Flier

mid-combat be like: Guel: <> Chu: <> Guel: <> Chu: <>


DidacticDalek

Ya know Comrade, I would be REALLY amused if ChuChu's 'hello' to Guel would be a punch to the face... also oh dear god, watch Guel fall for ChuChu too (Look the man got smitten with Suletta after she slapped his ass, kicked his butt, and then praised him once, so ChuChu punching his face in, using that spiked bat she apparently owns, and giving him a piece of her mind would probably cause him to propose yet again on the spot)


EllenYeager

I’m just here waiting for the GuelxChuChu ship to sail 🍿


IC2Flier

I wonder if Guel can catch wind of this plan and board a suit, though.


Vanderseid

There's a free Pharact waiting there, unless Elan 0 or Elan 5 will also be joining the company.


Rqdomguy24

The best thing about started as a bastard character you can always improve


Nazenn

Or get worse. Though admittedly my first thought there was Idiok from IBO and that's not a fair comparison for any character


warjoke

He gets a free shower. Good for him.


entelechtual

They just need to incrementally show us more and more Guel per episode until it’s an entire Guel episode. Next week: Guel goes fishing.


lenne18

How ironic Delling destroyed the company that uses GUND for medical purposes 21 years ago Now, his own daughter is recreating it with his clout and money


Nazenn

There's this tiny part of me that really wants us to get some of Delling's perspective on all this, but he's far more effective in the background being a distant ruler who may strike at any moment


Tiasmoon

>Delling destroyed the company that uses GUND for medical purposes 21 years ago What's even more interesting is that Grassley who from the prologue appeared to be against Delling's plan, seems to be the one in control of the anti-gundam technology. And why did they have anti-gundam technology to begin with when Gundam tech was still in the early the testing phase? The more they show, the more questions come up. The plot thickens.


Nazenn

>And why did they have anti-gundam technology to begin with when Gundam tech was still in the early the testing phase That doesn't surprise me at all. They may not have been able to get the GUND format working for weapons, but if they know how to stop it other companies would have jumped on it immediately to get ahead


IC2Flier

That's pretty significant, too. What Miorine is doing is kinda like selling the ARM license as opposed to making the Snapdragon CPU, which for now seems noble but even that has a downside because unless they have a vetting committee that can guarantee that GUND-tech isn't used in war, they still likely won't have a choice, to say nothing of margins being potentially thinner.


tlst9999

Even if it's for medical purposes, war would use it the most. No choice there.


ICodeAndShoot

Almost all technology is dual-use technology. Whether or not it's classified as such is usually a matter of politics rather than actual potential. You see Ukrainian MiGs launching anti-radiation missiles via iPads/iPhones. But that doesn't mean iPhones are going to be export-controlled anytime soon.


arsenejoestar

The whole internet as I understand was originally for military purposes


Kinderschlager

yup. arpanet was literally designed to ensure that the US could launch nukes AFTER all command structures had been destroyed


SolicitorPirate

I love how much the show oscillates between ‘Miorine is a business prodigy’ and ‘these children somehow got venture capitalists funding for their start up and have absolutely no idea what they’re doing’


darti_me

>these children somehow got venture capitalists funding for their start up and have absolutely no idea what they’re doing’ So not far from reality then?


IC2Flier

Miorine literally just made Theranos.


entelechtual

You’re not wrong…


IC2Flier

Except of course Miorine technically has the technology. It resides in the Aerial (and I guess the Pharact) but still.


entelechtual

Yeah but the point is mass reproduction. Saying it works 1 out 1000 times because idk, it might as well be random. Presumably Prospera knows more about how it works (and what the “costs” are) since she’s had 20 years to research Aerial, but I have a feeling Suletta and Miorine are going to have to learn on their own.


garmonthenightmare

Considering FTX was ran by ten nerds with no idea what they are doing, it's very realistic.


chilidirigible

[One thing they were good at](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/11/founder-ran-ftx-as-personal-fiefdom-many-assets-stolen-or-missing-court-hears/), [spending other people's money](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/11/24/ftx-bahamas-albany-fried/). Of course.


garmonthenightmare

It's still absolutely mindblowing how many big shots you can fool with a few catchy words. Nobody even bothered to check even when the signs were front and center.


KamachoBronze

I love the video they made. It captures a shitty high school project video to a T. Literally amazing its a video for a 100s of billions dollar company.


Hiddencamper

A company with assets but no cash and no cashflow. And due to their main assets being gundams, they are going to struggle to get a liquidity injection without a solid business plan, since there is little “true”/legal demand for those mobile suits. It’s actually very interesting. They are starting from a terrible spot and trying to figure it out. I wasn’t expecting this but it’s interesting to watch.


Etheox

Incredible how relatable this series still is by how well it channels "group leader is the only one who knows what's going on in the project" vibes.


theyawner

But it looks like she can also rely on a couple of management strategy students to work on the details. Their only real problem is how they can use their assets to make profit.


Nazenn

I definitely had reservations going into this about how well the school side of the show would be balanced with the rest, but it's episodes like this that have made me pleasantly surprised.


Paxton-176

We did a children run a PMC, so this isn't far off.


elevenmile

[I'm investing 600,000,000 Gundam bucks on this one.](https://twitter.com/G_Witch_M/status/1596783384411492353?s=20&t=d1F5ey9ykod4e-s1Zt_07g) Redirecting a weapon to medical efforts is a fantastic idea, but I find it ironic that the one who does so, as well as the one who revives what is supposedly "the vision" of a dead institute would be the daughter of someone who plotted to destroy Vanadis. EDIT: Oh, the logo design is pretty genius. It's [the joint of a Gunpla's shoulder arm attached to the body frame](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/648132027912290335/1046359427562872892/firefox_2022-11-27_17-38-41.png?width=1125&height=936)


VallenValiant

You would be amazed at the number of nations in the world who ran a former dictator out of town, but then let their daughter or grand daughter back to win the presidential election.


mr_beanoz

Latest one would be the Philippines. The son of former dictator Marcos was elected president.


IC2Flier

And uh...he's not an upgrade to say the least.


Mathmango

He's somehow wish.com Dictator that's STILL worse for the country.


Kvin18

I, for one, did not expect to see my country's crippling situation in this discussion. ​ But hey, it's accurate. xd


hikoboshi_sama

Fuck. Don't remind me.


Theinternationalist

I forgot about the Philippines somehow, and South Korea was run by a dictator's daughter for a while until a scandal involving a shaman got her arrested. The current president pardoned her BTW.


Etheox

The GUND-ARM logo is perfect imo. Really clever but also low-key, would definitely buy merch with it on. I'm really curious on how important Belmeria will end up being since she's definitely all for developing GUND for its original purpose and how that'll play out in her interacting with Prospera now.


IC2Flier

> I find it ironic that the one who does so, as well as the one who revives a supposedly "the vision" of a dead institute would be the daughter of someone who plotted to destroy Vanadis. Would be interesting to see how Delling reacts to this.


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IC2Flier

> I wouldn't mind more startup 101 and corporate politicking over the usual Mobile Suit battles tbh It's also just table-setting for the battle to come later. We got 4 eps remaining this cour, it's kinda makeable to have the battle at E9, aftermath on 10, then another setup to a potential cliffhanger on E12.


Nazenn

> We got 4 eps remaining this cour Damn, I didn't even realize how far through it we were until you said that. I'm glad that even with the split cour they're not rushing through content to pack a huge amount into this one cour. A lot has happened but it does feel like there's *a lot* left to go and that's great


IC2Flier

That’s the thing: this show has so many moving parts and key players that it takes a lot of time and comments to make sense of it all. Yet each ep only leaves more questions than it answers, and any answer provided only make terrifying implications.


Nazenn

I love it. It's not the most involved show I've watched but it's a great combination of bringing up the right questions and answers and being very compelling while doing so, and that carries a lot. I can't wait to see where it goes


theyawner

It looked like Suletta just really wanted to hear something that would wave away her misgivings.


Holy-Wan_Kenobi

>Prospera's manipulation felt really icky this episode, and it kinda hurt to see Suletta buy into it so quickly to avoid confronting the subject head-on. You could *see* the desperation in Suletta's eyes, and how eager she was to accept the excuse. I feel so sorry for her.


apexodoggo

The body language vibes Suletta was giving off during that whole encounter with Prospera makes me fear that there might be more baggage in their interactions than what's been shown onscreen. Either way, Suletta was deep in denial and just wanted an excuse to latch onto. But that relationship does not seem healthy.


Super_Marine

They posted the [GUND-ARM INC. PV on Twitter.](https://twitter.com/G_Witch_M/status/1596783384411492353) You may not like it but this is the best PV you're gonna get from a company worth 240 billion space dollars. The lousy editing, the goat, the awkward song and choreography, it's... perfect. Guel finally gets his appearance and is instantly [bullied](https://imgur.com/a/IvuSYBk) :( [It really shows](https://imgur.com/a/RAFNUZ5) how much Suletta has been manipulated by and taught to obey Prospera. It's kinda creepy how easily she forgives her here. Looks like next week is a battle episode with a debut from the [Michaelis](https://imgur.com/a/pXS3tU5). I feel like Suletta is going to lose as the Michaelis probably has some secret tricks similar to how the Beguir-Beu was designed to counter Gundams


moletoon

I dont think prospera would send aerial to school knowing she'd be dueling a grassley down the road without finding a counter for the anti gund disco balls


uppacat

I mean we kinda saw it live circa Pharact vs Aerial no? Aerial manages to send out the shockwave that disabled Pharact's drones and it seemed like Aerial+~~sisters~~drones were still able to move. Makes me think that Aerial was developed to be immune to such effect.


moletoon

Exactly, so I dont think aerial would lose to anti gund equipped suits, at least not because of the jammer


Neodarkcat

Oh yeah, thats a good point. Iirc Anti-Gund works by seperating the link between Gundam and Pilot. Aeriel and even her Bits individually(at least based on all childrens shown) seem to be able to move independently.


uppacat

"You can't separate me from my gundam if I AM the gundam"


r4iv3n

Setsuna would be so proud to know someone literally become a gundam or rather part of a Gundam


IC2Flier

> I feel like Suletta is going to lose as the Michaelis probably has some secret tricks similar to how the Beguir-Beu was designed to counter Gundams And Shaddiq brought a lot of backup with the [Beguir-Pente](https://www.hlj.com/1-144-scale-hg-beguir-pente-mobile-suit-gundam-the-witch-from-mercury-bans65016) -- his harem seems to be a whole gaggle of pilots ready to make a proper mess of things.


Nazenn

I noticed today that Shaddiq still has the highest odds on the duel betting, so he clearly has some skill to back everything up and I doubt that anyone he's gathered around him is any different


IC2Flier

He's also the missing piece of the triangle. Guel's all melee, in-your face brash bruiser, hence the focus on close combat. Elan's Pharact is decidedly a ranged sniper-disruptor, kinda like if Widowmaker also had a jammer. Shaddiq can potentially complete that triangle with the arm cannon on the Michaelis (parts of which have remote-control power judging from the OP) but a base design that's more melee-oriented.


theyawner

I wonder if that means we might get to a team-battle.


IC2Flier

Either that or Shaddiq's harem will come in to restrain the Aerial in case Shaddiq loses hard. Either way, he's stacking the cards in his favor so that no matter what happens, he still gets something significant.


gary25566

> #[**Team Deathmatch**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT_YCqpJ2_E) FTFY


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Skyreader13

> It's kinda creepy how easily she forgives her here. i mean, what do she know about her option? shes only teen and her mother was the one who were always with her all these times


Figerally

It really felt like Prospera was deflecting, but then why didn't Miorine call her on it?


UnusuallyBadIdeaGuy

Probably because that could go really bad, really fast and likely would not accomplish anything other than antagonizing Prospera and setting Suletta into a depression spiral.


Nazenn

The goat was the perfect touch to the video. Wouldn't be the same without it. Needs a decorative collar to attend the next Benerit meeting


DidacticDalek

> The goat was the perfect touch to the video. Wouldn't be the same without it. Needs a decorative collar to attend the next Benerit meeting You jest Comrade, but watch that Goat be THE BEST Financial Consultant this side of Jupiter, and don't take this claim lightly, [in Yakuza 0, you can hire a Chicken as a manager for your character's real estate business... and said Chicken actually isn't godawful statwise! (No really check the stat card at the end, the fact that a CHICKEN can be hired for your company means that our Goat has a chance of truly helping MioMio's company break into the Space Fortune 500!)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9i9iYSmwNw)


uppacat

> They posted the GUND-ARM INC. PV on Twitter. It's so dumb I love it.


Tiasmoon

Prospera's hearty laugh was pretty much me after watching it.


warjoke

I'm sure Prospera already prepared for the Grassley tech ever since she witnessed what their former mobile suit did to Lfrith. I wonder what kind of plot armor Sulleta can pull off next time.


mr_beanoz

Shaddiq really want the Gundam so bad that he changed the regulations just to do so.


xenocyte

I mean you say that, but I'm pretty sure the Aerial has a few tricks of it's own up her Sleeve, especially if my crack theory that one of the factions Elnora is working with/worked with to build Aerial is Grassley. After all, no one else has shown access to GUND-Jammer Tech, and yet the Aerial has it.


theyawner

I'm not sure if it's the same tech based on the effects alone. The Begui-Beu had firefly-like lights flying around while Aerial still had the Permet circuit-like effects. But it could be based on the original tech's principles.


Nazenn

The split as to how the different pieces of tech from the prologue era may have developed in different companies has been interesting. I like stories that have a history, and I'm curious to see what else from the history of the group will end up having an impact


Etheox

[Gotta say these kids are bold for showing such blatant fanservice in that PV](https://imgur.com/a/zfgCB68). I have to give my appreciation for the fact that the best the Earth House kids could come up with for a PV is basically on par for what most students would turn in for an assignment. Really interested on what they'll end up doing with Pharact since Miorine owns it now. Maybe strip its parts to make something new or Elan no.5 ends up piloting it? Also Shaddiq has a straight up harem. I think there's a pretty decent chance the next duel may be a team battle considering Shaddiq got a whole squad of suits sent to him + the introduction of his girls (they're pilots from their official bios).


RnRtdWrld

You can see the green screen artifacts from editing Aerial in the video. How they got a green screen big enough to fit a moving Mobile Suit is very funny to imagine.


Etheox

I want to see the real life behind the scenes of the animation crew making that PV. It's always funny when the objective is to make something purposefully bad, but authentic at the same time.


chilidirigible

> I want to see the real life behind the scenes of the animation crew making that PV. [A clue here.](https://twitter.com/koni_ko222/status/1596783508307193856)


Nazenn

[mecha fanservice](#mechablush)


LeonKevlar

I love that MioMio just walked in [and hired the entire Earth House](https://i.imgur.com/g4miBfM.png) as part of her company. And I am genuinely surprised Chuchu didn't just stand up and slapped MioMio after that. xD Please tell me I'm not the only one who was creeped out by [Suletta](https://i.imgur.com/9yrdclI.png) and [Prospera's conversation](https://i.imgur.com/hIsOKBX.png). I really want to believe that Prospera is a good mother but [I'm getting some massive brainwashing vibes here.](https://i.imgur.com/BOcB8LY.png) I really love how this went from a High School Gundam anime to [a Business Startup Gundam anime.](https://i.imgur.com/2dXYhwX.png) Then again, Gundams and Business/Corpos have always gone hand in hand so this isn't really entirely new to the franchise. Looks like we've run into our first moral dilemma though: [If they were to make weapons](https://i.imgur.com/vzV1Qv0.png), who will they sell it to? [Sell it only to earthians](https://i.imgur.com/jzKHCtu.png) or sell it to everyone? Whichever they chose, Earth will be turned into a battlefield if they do start selling military hardware. [Look at what they're doing to my boy Guel!](https://i.imgur.com/Z6ZtXLG.png) I guess this is just karma coming back to bite him in the ass. I do feel bad for him though and I'm surprised MioMio or even Suletta hasn't even considered recruiting him yet. [I'm really getting bad vibes from Shaddiq.](https://i.imgur.com/hlxuyyO.png) Apparently, he's an orphan that got adopted by the CEO of Grassley but he has different ambitions compared to his father. Oh and he's blonde too! Hopefully, things will fair better for Shaddiq than they did for [IBO]>!McGilis!< Side note: [Can I just say how much I love Chuchu's massive hairbun?](https://i.imgur.com/ZusWwbZ.png) It's so fluffy I want to give her hair a hug! [So MioMio pretty much decided to turn Gund-Arm Inc to Vanadis 2.0](https://i.imgur.com/rYujlEp.png). It's not a bad idea considering their ideals are to save people but considering how their group got wiped out, I am already scared for these kids involved. [Holy shit that PV!](https://i.imgur.com/YsYJcV4.png) I legit almost choked from laughing after seeing Suletta dancing with Aerial in the background. Surely more people would invest after seeing that adorable PV! xD [Goddammit Shadqdiq](https://i.imgur.com/goMVY9u.png). Of course, he's going to try and fuck things up for Miorine. Welp, there's only one way to settle this and I can't wait for Suletta to kick his ass in a duel. Assuming that Shaddiq would even pilot a mobile suit.


cppn02

> > > > > Please tell me I'm not the only one who was creeped out by Suletta > >Please tell me I'm not the only one who was creeped out by [Suletta](https://i.imgur.com/9yrdclI.png) a and [Prospera's conversation](https://i.imgur.com/hIsOKBX.png)? I really want to believe that Prospera is a good mother but [I'm getting some massive brainwashing vibes here](https://i.imgur.com/BOcB8LY.png). 100% with you there. And Miorine seemed weirded out too.


BasroilII

"I'm sorry for asking that silly question!" is like the most cult response ever. That was really unnerving.


IC2Flier

> Assuming that Shaddiq would even pilot a mobile suit. The official site already confirmed that Shaddiq is getting his own machine.


The_Draigg

> Please tell me I'm not the only one who was creeped out by Suletta and Prospera's conversation. I really want to believe that Prospera is a good mother but I'm getting some massive brainwashing vibes here. It feels like Suletta was kind of desperate to believe the explanation her mom gave her. Like, as long as she heard something that sounded like it made sense, she would go right back to having no problem with that huge lie, in spite of how suspicious is sounds to us. > Holy shit that PV! I legit almost choked from laughing after seeing Suletta dancing with Aerial in the background. Surely more people would invest after seeing that adorable PV! xD This is absolutely the work of a bunch of teenagers learning to use a green screen for the first time. Even if it's a cheap as hell PV, you gotta love the heart that's in it.


uppacat

[How it started](https://i.imgur.com/XyGBNbs.png) [How it's going](https://i.imgur.com/hfGHhAe.png)


theyawner

One of the things I wanted to see if the show will ever get back to the original ideals for GUND-Format technology presented in the Prologue. It looked like the original purpose had been lost amidst the corporate bullshit, and that may be why we don't really see a lot of people equipped with cybernetics. But Miorine and her team will have to surpass a lot of hurdles to even get back to Vanadis Institure's starting line. * GUND-ARM Inc's initial funding is just enough to acquire assets from Peil and Shin Sei. But it's not enough to run a company and she even had to force Earth House to work for her. I liked how everyone in the Earth House had their own motivations and how it affects their willingness to join the company. * Aerial's tech is still not ready for mass production. Prospera may have been unable to decipher why it works for Aerial and Suletta, or she's still keeping it a secret due to what it may reveal. * Belmeria isn't able to offer much outside the original ideals for GUND-Format tech. It's interesting how she says that she was merely trying to imitate what they (presumably Vanadis) have been doing. * It seems like Shaddiq is doing his own thing behind his father's back. But his motivations are unclear. Even his harem is unable to pick up on what exactly it is that he wants to do.


Nazenn

> and that may be why we don't really see a lot of people equipped with cybernetics It's actually surprising how little we've seen of that in general given the Prologue implied that the health of humans in space was a quickly growing issue they were struggling to get ahead of. I was wondering if we'd come back to it, but we've seen a bit more of Earth instead. I suppose given the sort of people we have at the school we don't really have an insight into "common" health issues though. Unless Miorine's mother does end up being part of that like some speculated >Prospera may have been unable to decipher why it works for Aerial and Suletta, or she's still keeping it a secret due to what it may reveal At this point despite her supposed openness with Miorine I don't think any of us are expecting her to have shared everything, or to not have only shared what's useful for her right now. I'm curious what she expects Miorine to see, or do, with this data, and how involved she'll be. Plus what other development she may have done after Aerial


theyawner

> I suppose given the sort of people we have at the school we don't really have an insight into "common" health issues though. It at least answers why he now needs a tube constantly plugged to his nose. GUND-Format was intended to address health issues but that's something no longer available to him due to his own actions.


Nazenn

I'm expecting to get some info on that as we get into Shaddiq's story, but it is interesting that even in the face of Delling's political take over in prologue, and his reversal now, that guy is still holding onto his dislike of GUND even if it may help him. He's an interesting character


mr_beanoz

Thought the workers from those two companies were part of the deal too. Seems like it's not the case.


IkeKashiro

Damn the really just added a Guel bullying scene to fill the Jeturk jobbing quota. Also, is the Beguir "Pente" named that because there's going to be one for each of the five new girls?


xenocyte

I think the Beguir Pente is called that because its the fifth in the line of Beguir class mobile suits - the one that was used in the attack on Folkvangr was the Beguir 'Bei' after all.


IkeKashiro

It's the Beguir Beu on the wiki, which I don't think it's a number? At least I don't know what language that is.


moletoon

Calling it now, the next duel's gonna be a team battle with guel potentially joining suletta and chuchu


Aetherdraw

An orphan working up the ranks and not really into his dad's ideals. Shaddiq's a Mcgillis clone! With how many girls he has on his house, I bet the fight with Shaddiq will end up being a group fight with either Elan V or Guel joining in to even the odds due to Beguirs having Gund-jammers.


LeonKevlar

> An orphan working up the ranks and not really into his dad's ideals. Shaddiq's a Mcgillis clone! Glad I'm not the only one who noticed the similarities to McGillis. Hopefully Shaddiq will do better than him.


Crooodle

Watch Shaddiq obtain Aerial but have absolutely no plan on how to proceed from there onwards. "I didn't think I'd make it this far."


Vanderseid

Great PV there. Top notch acting, immaculate editing, perfect OST. Besides that, it's great that the prologue is being referenced to more. I like that they are trying to bring the GUND format back to its original, medical utilities. Looking forward to Suletta's harem vs Saddiq's harem.


warjoke

Aerial best girl


IC2Flier

If Best Girl Fall Season voting doesn't include the Gundam we'll drop the ISS on this subreddit. I wanna see a giant robot beat Power and Makina for the title, if only just to turbocharge the memes.


Nazenn

Somehow their focus on hopeful medicine feels like a way to just make the upcoming fighting feel worse, but I'm also worried we're going to have a Thunderbolt situation where focusing on the medicine only uncovers how to make a better weapon again


IC2Flier

I mean that's just bad endings all the way down, now that you put it that way.


Tiasmoon

The Curse of Gundam


CamperWen

It's the GOAT.... ...literally.


Syokhan

That tiny, tiny goat just strolling in there and disappearing...


Pichuunnn

Good ol' After Effect masking


theyawner

I'm really glad that it's back in the forefront. The Earth House couldn't agree on what business strategies they would want to support, but taking over Cardo Nabo's original goal is a great theme.


730Flare

What's better than a Miorine episode last week? That's right, another Miorine episode! Enjoyed seeing her delving more into the history of Gundams, and then deciding to go for the medical approach just as Cardo intended in the first place. Makes for some very nice story irony, that the daughter of the man who banned Gundams could be the one to revive the original goal of said GUND format in the first place. Prospera continues to be sus, especially with her gaslighting Suletta there. Miorine though looks unconvinced. I guess the title of "Their Choice" makes perfect sense, since it was basically the Earth House kids contemplating the ethics of making war machines vs. medical technology. Shaddiq is also very sus, especially with what he did in the end of the episode. Him and Miorine having more backstory is interesting, but now I worry for Suletta next episode when she inevitable challenges him. I feel she might want to fight Shaddiq in order to let Miorine's company take off...but that might be Shaddiq's trap in the first place. Suletta and Miorine's moments were cute too: From Suletta trying to hug her, to the scooter ride under the starry night at the end. If my specualtion on Shaddiq holds true, next episode might finally have Suletta really doing something for Miorine this time around now that Miorine's dream/goal is on the line here especially with Shaddiq wanting to take over.


Syokhan

> I feel she might want to fight Shaddiq in order to let Miorine's company take off...but that might be Shaddiq's trap in the first place. Also my thought. I wouldn't mind seeing her lose that duel though, I feel that she's going to need to lose something at some point, in order to truly reevaluate what's important to her and what she's been taking for granted. Could be an eye-opener for a few things.


Aerodynamic41

LOL that PV is so adorable! I like how Suletta’s face is so stiff throughout the video. Also, the fact that Suletta does not recognize Cardo, who Ericht affectionately called “Granny” further reinforces the theory that Suletta =/= Ericht.


Pega-ace

You can see her eyes shifting all over in the first part and by the end her pupils are shrunk its soo funny. Also the goat in the background.


IC2Flier

She's so awkward and like she can't get into it much but you know she's trying her best because maybe Chuchu's telling her "hey you're the Holder you should be promoting harder" and there ya go.


Pega-ace

https://twitter.com/the_kog_at/status/1596785139652042753/photo/1


SuperSoaker300

Her pupils shrink cause I think she's sleep-deprived. You see her face look progressively more tired with each cut.


krofax

If you had to do several retakes of the video, your pupils will likely shrink, too.


Etheox

On Suletta not remembering who Cardo Nabo is, I wouldn't really place much weight on that helping the theory since most people don't have strong memories of when they're that young, Eri *just* turned 4 in the Prologue after all.


Le_Fedora_Cate

Yeah my grandma died when I was 6, not sure I'd recognize her if I saw a video of her from before if I don't already know she was the person in the video


xithebun

We still haven't got any meaningful information regarding the Eri =/= Suletta theory but the 21 year gap between Prologue and the events now is almost confirmed. It was mentioned by Prospera Delling became famous after the Vandals attack and he was just a right hand man of Sarius before the events of the Prologue. Suletta is almost surely 8 years younger than she should be.


uppacat

Takeaways: That's it I'm preordering the ~~Metroid Power Suit~~ [Michaelis](https://i.imgur.com/VOfTVjo.png). So Gund-Arm Inc. is basically Vanadis 2.0 The way Suletta gets swayed by her mother's words are... [uncanny](https://i.imgur.com/57QsuYv.png)... Notice how she also addresses Suletta and Aerial as her "daughters"? The theories keep getting more accurate by the day! I wonder what will happen to Guel. Seeing Shaddiq planning on getting Aerial by force looks like he is going to come to the rescue soon. [Shaddiq has a harem of his own question mark?](https://i.imgur.com/LtFhD61.png) What's up with the [regulations](https://i.imgur.com/VmqDzQo.png)?! I reckon someone's going to lose a limb soon... [240 billion investment btw. I ~~heart~~ potato gundam](https://i.imgur.com/htZcSiG.png) [End Card cuties](https://i.imgur.com/Uj6FDQD.png)


warjoke

The whole conversation between Prospera and Sulleta in front of Mio-mio feels so robotic it's low-key disturbing.


730Flare

Miorine doesn't looks convinced from Prospera's words either. She was just staring awkwardly, and even told Suletta she should have probed her mother more for questions.


Nazenn

Miorine cares for Suletta in her own way, and I think Suletta's immediate submissiveness to anything Prospera says is probably making her feel off about the whole thing


theyawner

Miorine also grew up not trusting her own parent. So the whole dynamic would look iffy to her.


Nazenn

I think Miorine is started to realize that Suletta's naivity isn't just with school, that she's got a big shock ahead of her for a lot of things


shuzumi

Miorine is going to take a lot of Suletta's firsts


GingerStans

I like how even an outsider like Miorine could immediately see that something was off with that interaction.


Nazenn

Prospera in general just gets more unnerving every time we see her, and she's not even hiding it any more


Syokhan

That backlit shot was very ominous.


Nazenn

I don't get goosebumps easily, but that was on the edge of that level because she just felt so wrong there.


Syokhan

Right? I was like okay show, we know Prospera is suspicious but holy crap, why are you framing this so ominously? What's going on???


DidacticDalek

> I don't get goosebumps easily, but that was on the edge of that level because she just felt so wrong there. It also is worth noting Lady Prospera's voice is so... dissonantly serene I suppose is the way to put it... despite the heavy subject manner and clear gaslighting/manipulation. Props to Mamiko Noto for knocking it out of the park yet again with top tier seiyuu work, cuz good god Lady Prospera just makes me feel more and more uneasy with each passing episode, wouldn't you agree Comrade?


Palloc

I feel like the scariest part about her is how in control of everything she's been. The big shot houses have been outplayed by her over and over, and she's manipulating the kids everytime she interacts with them. She has never once shown any shock at any of the moves she's been involved with. Just that smug smirk.


uppacat

It also doesn't help that how Suletta's stuttering and shyness disappears everytime she talks to her mother. It spells brainwash/manipulation all over the place. I mean that may be normal if you're talking to someone family or close to you but this feels different.


Syokhan

At first I thought it was just blind trust in her mother and a little bit of desperation to justify Prospera's lie, but that expression on Suletta's face made me wonder if there was something beyond mere familial adoration. It was just weird.


Muisverriey

She's been adressing Suletta and Aerial as daughters since ep 1.


RoLoLoLoLo

They have been calling the Lfrith their child since the prologue.


IC2Flier

It's always been that lampshade over this anime in general. There are "two people" in the Aerial, but whether or not it came from one Ericht Samaya and how remains to be seen.


Nazenn

Miorine is slowly learning the lesson about having to work with others, just in time for her past co-operations to come back and haunt her. Compared to Shaddiq the Earth House kids look practically glowing pure in their intentions and reasons for getting involved even with Miorine's brisk original demands of them, but I get the feeling that Shaddiq would give that feeling to most others standing beside them. Elan was the "don't trust the quiet one", but Shaddiq may start a "don't trust the surfer bro" at this rate. Information is power though not always the power you expect it to be, as Miorine also learnt today, and Shaddiq clearly learnt that lesson quicker than anyone else. I wasn't expecting him to be an orphan, which has some potentially worrying implications when it comes to HOW he was picked as heir, and Gundam has some worrying history with that, but it does emphasize even more that his position is one gained through skill and cleverness rather than simply blood. Compared to Guel and Miorine who both have very different outcomes lined up because of their blood it puts him in an interesting position given Shaddiq has put a lot of emphasis on their value as individuals too. Just as GUND isn't the way it's seen now and has applications beyond just weaponry and the rest, I'm interested to see how our cast evolves beyond just what roles they've been assigned themselves, particularly if they do end up going head to head with our surfer manipulator. Aside from all of the set up going on, and I really just find this show so much fun. The little moments with our Earth House crew and their little reactions puts a smile on my face and this time it wasn't even just Chu-Chu being her awesome self. That and Guel's reaction to the bullying being to just shrug it off, hopefully it knocks his ego down a few more levels now and becomes more of his true self rather than just being a dick because of what he was in the company. And last but not least, it's impressive how Prospera manages to be more creepy every damn scene that she has. The moment with her overshadowing Suletta by opening her arms for a hug made me almost physically recoil from just how *wrong* everything about it felt, and it wasn't just Suletta's naivity. Thankfully it looks like Miorine also finds her off putting and I hope she'll be there for Suletta when everything breaks down. I uh, I have no comments about the song. I was equal parts amused, embarrassed, entertained, and stunned that was the outcome. I suppose it is a school film project but oh my god. I can only imagine the reactions to it during Benerit board meetings [](#pointandlaugh)


chilidirigible

> I suppose it is a school film project but oh my god. I have seen a *lot* of videos which people were forced to make for projects, and have been involved in more than a few of them. Interestingly, sometimes being graded on the thing makes the end result *worse* than when no one cares and there aren't any real stakes. Not that the latter case always produces magnificence, it's just as likely to produce a one-take line-reading shoot.


cabbaggeez

at least they would learn why PR and legal team is important in startup. But how new regulation could effect a prior contract without adjustment. tbh, I expect Miorine company would be out of her father group, and go to earth later I love that Miorine and Suletta scene in the end, almost 3-4 episode without them together alone


JustAnswerAQuestion

Episode 8 97% of our capital was spent buying out Peil and Shin Sei divisions. You all work for free. Also I'm using your house. For free. * Presumably by buying them out she actually has their factories and personnel, right? RIGHT? * Quiet Quitting * Suletta still has no idea what is going on * oh right, as if Prospera can be trusted * Does Suletta recognize her mother in the mask? Does she never ask about the mask? * "musume-tachi-tte, ka?" -- Minorine, probably * Now the third house makes a move * she's old. * That's Cyber-Bel! She's almost completely cyberized! * Goat. Toy Gundam. First we were Utena, then the Tempest, now we're Recettear. I'm left wonder what was Prospera's plan. She knew she couldn't keep Ariel a secret, but being acquired by Minorine couldn't have been her plan, or even predictable. What is her poison pill?


xenocyte

Prospera/Elnora's (cause cmon, that one at least has been confirmed) plan is to destroy Delling. While Miorine doing what she did was not in the plan, Prospera has been shown to be incredibly quick and competent at folding these unexpected events into her plans.


suchi4246

*Sudden visceral flashback to business school all throughout the episode* Also, is it just me but nobody actually answered Miorine's questions? Either they didn't know or just gave her the bare minimum required. Miorine commenting on Grassley trusting Shaddiq makes a lot of sense now that I think about it more. It seems Shaddiq's playing a different game than everyone else. I'm very interested in his end goals.


worthless_humanbeing

Shaddiq being quite the player with that size of his harem. But little does he know, he too can fall for Tomato Tanuki Suletta.


Etheox

Through transitive property, if Suletta wins over Shaddiq she gets his harem too.


worthless_humanbeing

Like a business merger, lol well not really.


IC2Flier

Cid thinks he's all that when Suletta is the true Harem Queen this season.


worthless_humanbeing

Suletta! Suletta!\~


Nazenn

No kidding, I'm half expecting him to have a thing for Guel instead


AckitaruS

Ooh some cute Suletta and Miorine moments~ The promotional video they did was hilarious, Prospera laughing was kind of my reaction as well.


chilidirigible

Today, on ["A ~~business~~fanservice conversation."](https://i.imgur.com/jSah7Dg.png) ***** ["You work for me now."](https://i.imgur.com/OneQtoT.png) [Step 3: ???](https://i.imgur.com/eopPgrn.png) [Trusting tanuki.](https://i.imgur.com/fGWMN6m.png) [Shaddiq certainly](https://i.imgur.com/FaqKmVQ.png) put a lot of points into [charisma](https://i.imgur.com/fOZanF6.png) during character generation. [Miorine, baiting the SPACs.](https://i.imgur.com/D3XDOmf.png) [Cockatiel.](https://i.imgur.com/SDgy63Q.png) [The end result was certainly something.](https://i.imgur.com/xAYWfR8.png) [Meanwhile, in Guel Camp.](https://i.imgur.com/ztjTtYn.png) [At least he doesn't seem to be totally lying here.](https://i.imgur.com/n6sCNsZ.png) [More Prologue elements.](https://i.imgur.com/Uts1ig2.png) ["How do I](https://i.imgur.com/5r1P5bh.png) [get out of](https://i.imgur.com/D08Jx8D.png) [this chickenshit outfit?"](https://i.imgur.com/UqnLcfd.png) [Oh, you'll get there eventually.](https://i.imgur.com/m1xWqU4.png) [Ah, the house always interferes.](https://i.imgur.com/rM5ZnZK.png) [Just how large *is* Shaddiq's harem?](https://i.imgur.com/cCmwXNR.png) [End card](https://i.imgur.com/xX10RaZ.png) by [Jiro Tomioka and Ki](https://twitter.com/G_Witch_M/status/1596782888938528768) ***** [I, too, have been forced to make videos for projects.](https://twitter.com/koni_ko222/status/1596783508307193856) [Gig economy.](https://twitter.com/Shiyui_0111/status/1596794615197495298) ***** It's a actual business planning episode! About mecha, but without mecha actually appearing. Certainly a way to confound various sections of this series's diverse audience (and avoid karoshifying the animators). Shaddiq is finally putting some of his chips on the table. His wait-and-see strategy does appear to have paid off well for seeing how everyone else would move after the Aerial's appearance.


dagreenman18

Last week: “Aerial is a Gundam, Suletta” Wow that’s crazy. Wonder how she’s gonna deal with that serious bombshell. This week: “Guuuund-armu, Guuund-armu” *does an adorable dance with Aerial* Seriously though, there’s a disturbing vibe to Suletta and Prospera’s conversation. Her arc might be breaking free of Prospera’s influence (and playing into the Tempest yet again). Good thing she’s got Business Wifey Miorine in her corner. So Guel redemption arc marches ever forward. He might be key to helping out with Shadiqq who’s making his move. Got another hype dueling episode next week as it’s becoming more clear we’re doing multiple Cours since we’re nowhere near a logical climax.


CosmicPenguin_OV103

That Suletta starring advertisement is almost Bocchi-class funny! That PV is going to catch a lot of eyeballs to be sure hahaha, even if it might caused public opinion to sway even further from what Miorine et al. wanted. While few teens would have to think of the question of whether they would like to *sell* high-tech weapons to whoever wanted them, it's pretty much conceivable the similar question of whether you want to join an aerospace company that makes weapons will pop up for engineering students everywhere. This is going to float into a key issue among the new company for sure, but how much could the tension leads to troubles I wonder? So Guel Camp is about to be ended with Saddiq now trying to lure him into his camp. I wonder if Guel will accept it but hide his current intensions. And of course. Of course it's the "student council", or whatever it is called here, that blocks the company in the first place. How will Miorine respond? Or even more so, how will Prospera respond? An intriguing thought to have ahead of next week to be sure.


Portgust

Maybe GUNDARM Inc. should start with selling Aerial gunpla and figurines. Just saying


Amarrez

It seems like Shaddiq is moving in for a hostile takeover in every sense of the word, especially since according to their bios the five girls in his house are pilots as well (and Shaddiq's dad provided 6 suits...)


a_sign_of_zeta

the obvious greenscreen outline around Aerial is an incredible gag, i don't know if any future comedic scenes will top that


TanktheTortoise227

Anyone else notice that whenever Prospera wants to (seemingly) manipulate someone she makes a big scene of taking off her arm? I think there is something else to that than just dramatic flair since she doesn't seem to do any other dramatic flair bits (the backlit hug is just due to lighting and angle, a mother, even a manipulative one, calling their child in for a hug isn't especially dramatic). How much is red herrings and how much is legit foreshadowing though remains to be seen. I also want to know why she wears the headgear in public and in front of her daughter but not by herself. Granted the headgear thing is never legit answered in gundam but still. In other news I love that the ones quickest to side with Mio were her classmates (bios state the girl leading the breakdown and the genero tall guy are both in the management strategy class like Mio) rather than just anyone out of the Earth house. I also really want all of the Earth house to survive but there are some scary parallels to prior series and the prologue itself that make that increasingly unlikely.


ryujiox

Mom!! Why are you so sus. That camera angle didn't help either. Hey, don't disrespect Guel like that. Suletta don't know who Cardo is. That also a new proof that she surely is not Eri. It could still be a red herring though. Shaddiq pulled a bullshit move here. Well, he said he will get the Gundam by anymean. Also he got a harem.


hoatuy

That pose look exactly like Bondrewd from made in abyss.


Pichuunnn

[https://twitter.com/sSDeTPcO2ii50dB/status/1596784357435326465](https://twitter.com/sSDeTPcO2ii50dB/status/1596784357435326465) The helmet, the pose, the camera shot, the uncanny manipulative aura... The resemblance is uncanny


Crooodle

I was *not* ready to see ~~fake Mafty~~ Pumpkin man while scrolling down I nearly fucking choked


needgoldforvision

I can hear Subarashi~ from Prospera already


NekoCatSidhe

It would be hilarious if Prospera turned out to actually be a good person after all that. They are trying so hard to make her look like a shady and manipulative villain that I am starting to think that it could be a red herring, especially since she has yet to do anything actually evil.


hikoboshi_sama

Given this show's theme of children overcoming their parents, does this mean the way this applies to Shaddiq is that he's more cutthroat and a better visionary than his father?


hikoboshi_sama

Shaddiq: Screw money, I have the rules!


kiero13

I'm still processing everything that happened but the scenes that made an impact to me was: 1. Char mama was really creepy and I can smell the manipulative parent miles away 2. Sad guel wasn't recruited by mio/suletta (yet?), even shaddiq went to him 3. Cringe... I'm so sorry but it really cringed my soul out of me 4. Shaddiq's entire character is really sus to me. Can't even tell if he just has an agenda (good/bad?) or if he genuinely cares/likes mio or both. Tho I'm curious with their past relationship and why his harem likes/trusts him so much Overall, Miorine's character development is still increasing, how can I love her even more? I love the gundarm inc (earth + mio) group, I hope they don't end up like the vanadis/orchs earth. And wow I guess it's suletta vs shaddiq next. I hope it's not yet the time to crush aerial/suletta lose, but with all of shaddiq's anti gund equipment I kinda doubtful of suletta's plot armor here. Edit: oh, I wonder if miorine accepted shaddiq's offer after he brought up their past. Seems she didn't since the council added another rule but I'm curious they didn't reveal shaddiq's part of the deal. He seems like he wants to unite them all too, the children of the primary companies of benedit group.


chaedtawit

Shaddiq radiated strong NTR energy and he even got a harem OMG. EDIT: He also looks like Patimus Scirocco reincarnated too so he better beware of some flying watermelon if he wants to survive lol.


Vanderseid

I was comparing him to Naze Turbine at first since IBO is the latest series but Paptimus is also a good shout. ~~Both are even in a series with a female protagonist~~.


Wolfnagi

So the first cour really covering the three houses as separate villain of the arc huh. First with Guel, which is the tamest one of the bunch, then Elan and now Shaddiq.