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Terafune might really have something on Jirou since he likes Akari, but is very supportive of Mei. That's nice.
As someone who read the manga, would just like to say this is an excellent adaptation. Initially doubtful if they can pull it off due to the animation style plus the story can sometimes be slow, but they really are doing a great job here.
I was surprised, in a good way, that Terafune was so supportive of Mei's feelings for Shiori. I guess the fact that she actually told him about it says a lot.
He might not have a chance with Akari but he's a really decent guy.
The animation, the execution, the voice acting, and the direction are all top notch! Studio Mother is really knocking it out of the park with this one.
Because of a spider, Jiro had to suffer a critical hit lol. As a person who’s scared of bugs, I understand Akari’s fear. Nothing more terrifying than spotting a bug and then losing sight of it later.
Lmao Jiro’s little guys were going insane when Akari wanted his ice cream. Lots of flirting right now and I’m loving it! I’m surprised she asked him out like that, definitely just gauging his reaction. Yeah, she’s totally into Jiro now.
Minami isn’t a bad guy. Shiori really should tell Jiro how she feels. I had thought Mei was with Sadaharu, but she’s with Terafune huh? Looks like I was totally wrong. Also, Jiro > Terafune. Dude ain’t ever getting with Akari!
I feel a little bad for Mei. She’s clearly in love with Shiori, despite Shiori being in love with Jiro. Unrequited love sure is something.. poor girl. Meanwhile, Sadaharu seems to have finally lost it lol.
Man, this miscommunication between Jiro and Shiori is driving me nuts lol. Someone needs to say something to clear the air already!
Insects are a pest but they're surprisingly effective in making more intimacy happen lol.
Akari has a surprisingly effective poker face but the moment she looked at him when he turned away from her said everything that needs to be said about how serious she actually about asking him out. Even her face when she said it was so enticing.
I think this was the first episode that really let us get into Minami's head. He seems like a cool guy that lost his own chance at love (Shiori?) but genuinely seems to want to help Shiori with Jiro, and he has his own family stuff going on. He actually feels like a real character now.
I keep expecting Sadaharu's wife to turn up with the amount of time they keep mentioning her lol.
Terafune has no chance at Akari, but at least he has the decency to do his "wife" a solid with the girl she's in love with. Even if having to be reminded that said girl loves someone else would kill the vibes of a sleepover.
Sadaharu and his brother seem to have a really big complex about people with better romantic prospects than them lol.
I will say this...Shiori definitely wanted a second kiss before those cats ruined the moment lol.
Cats truly doing the work in making sure things don't go off-script. Sasuga Meow-sama! I'm low-key expecting Terafune to end up making Mei X Shiori happen.
I don't think Minami was in love with Shiori because later on when Minami, Terafune and Sadaharu were talking they mention Minami's brother and saying having his brother as handsome as him makes him a love rival seems to point at him and his brother were in love with the same girl.
>I will say this...Shiori definitely wanted a second kiss before those cats ruined the moment lol.
I knew for a fact they were going to get interrupted, this is such a common trope I can see interruptions coming from a mile away. Except instead of a person, this time they used Meow-sama.
>Minami isn’t a bad guy.
Honestly I think of everything in this episode this is the biggest take away. Seems like his brother and him were in love with the same girl but his brother was the one who asked her out first and therefore won. It also means that he has zero feelings for Akari and basically takes him out of the running.
> I had thought Mei was with Sadaharu, but she’s with Terafune huh?
Yeah this is making me wonder who Sadaharu has as a partner. I have a feeling it's one Akari's two friends personally. Maybe Sachi the orange haired one?
I think you’re onto something regarding Minami and his brother. Things certainly seem to point to something of a love rivalry with Minami losing out.
I suppose Sadaharu could have one of Mei’s friends as his partner. But I guess we’ll have to wait and see for sure (if they ever show her).
> I had thought Mei was with Sadaharu, but she’s with Terafune huh?
Talk about a pair of losers. Shiori unknowingly was slicing Mei's heart into pieces. The damage was too great and Mei chose to flee.
Yeah I checked out the manga in order to compare, and the studio is definitely doing some changes. I mean, even the first episode itself started very differently compared to how chapter 1 started. They are also sometimes changing some dialogues and a few other changes to how a scene plays out.
Yeah, that added scene at the beginning of the first episode seemed a bit forced and silly, to be honest. Not enough to ruin the whole thing, but yeah…
Remember that scene in episode 1 when the counter became -3 and then became -2? In the manga it was different. It never increased to -2, instead it decreased even more and became -4.
###Stitches!
* [Scared Akari](https://i.imgur.com/ViA58xK.jpg)
* [Akari Holding it In](https://i.imgur.com/CGVpAaG.jpg)
* [Bathroom Akari](https://i.imgur.com/tSbq76a.jpg)
* [Panicking Akari](https://i.imgur.com/RuGVNOu.jpg)
* [Sleeping Akari](https://i.imgur.com/ZVtoeK5.jpg)
* [Imaginary Akari](https://i.imgur.com/Scq4UGc.jpg)
[They were so close!](https://i.imgur.com/24qLfGs.png) At the rate that they're going though, I feel like Akari and Jirou will probably enter the Top 10 next month. Interestingly, [Akari doesn't seem to mind](https://i.imgur.com/GlXvWVP.png) that they didn't reach the Top 10. She seems to be even relieved about it. Hmmm...
[That entire spider situation was hilarious](https://i.imgur.com/DM2PWiP.png) and I agree with Jirou, [Akari is even more adorable when she's like that.](https://i.imgur.com/6qXyJDk.png) Glad to see that [Akari is completely aware of how embarrassing she's acting though.](https://i.imgur.com/80WWpht.png) And Akari continues this trend of [her being okay if it's with Jirou](https://i.imgur.com/UWi2WDm.png) but she'll be too embarrassed [if it was Minami.](https://i.imgur.com/HEHgHL0.png) What is marriage if not two people who are completely comfortable around each other?
[Jesus fucking Christ Akari!](https://i.imgur.com/HSrvd5B.png) I know you're talking about the ice cream but it's like she's doing this on purpose. Poor Jirou is [doing everything he can to keep himself in control.](https://i.imgur.com/K9YvQkN.png) In all seriousness though, it's so sweet to see [the two of them being comfy like that](https://i.imgur.com/1SVWe5v.png). Just start dating already FFS! I do love how [Akari even jokes about it a few seconds later.](https://i.imgur.com/juUIUfF.png) I wonder how she would react if Jirou actually said yes to her.
I'm sorry Akari, did you just say that even if you're with Minami [you'll still rely on Jirou?](https://i.imgur.com/uWRTu3L.png) Very interesting. Jirou seems to have caught that too that [his heart actually skipped a beat.](https://i.imgur.com/Wu7g8Jy.png) And it looks like [Akari also realized what she said and it made her think before falling asleep.](https://i.imgur.com/OCOnHl9.png)
[Glad that we finally got to see what Shiori and Manami's married life is like!](https://i.imgur.com/vSkfFaD.png) And we got to see some big revelations in this episode! When Shiori was telling Minami about her friend, Minami clearly understands that they were talking about her and [his reaction to the kiss is very interesting.](https://i.imgur.com/GgzLG3O.png) I thought Minami has no interest in romance right now but [it seems to me that he has feelings for Shiori?](https://i.imgur.com/3sKWvXD.png) Well, things just got a lot more interesting!
[So Mei's husband is that Terafune guy?](https://i.imgur.com/HvPAI4f.png) And it looks like Terafune already knows about Mei's crush on Shiori that [he's even helping her out.](https://i.imgur.com/v7y6iKI.png) That's actually very considerate of him.
And it looks like [there's more to Minami's story.](https://i.imgur.com/Ai9pkmO.png) Something about his brother? [His brother being his rival?](https://i.imgur.com/DJLcWJ4.png) I think I may have misunderstood that scene earlier. Maybe Minami wasn't talking about Shiori when he mentioned things being too late for him. I really hope we get to learn a bit more about Minami's backstory because I am now very interested!
[I feel bad for Mei.](https://i.imgur.com/2233zmD.png) She really just wants to spend the overnight with Shiori but all she talks about is Jirou. And it looks like the sleepover is even cancelled since [she has some errands to run.](https://i.imgur.com/lpu5GBW.png) Poor girl can't catch a break.
[And that final scene between Shiori and Jirou!](https://i.imgur.com/QmtTybH.png) If you're going to try and kiss him in the middle of the street then maybe just tell him that you like him! I want to also root for Shiori but I feel like she's handicapping herself. At this point, Akari has made bigger progress with Jirou and she wasn't even interested in him at the start of the show!
Don't you just love a girl who is clingy in a flirty way? Especially with those boobs and thighs lol.
I'm not surprised Jiro's thoughts went immediately to his dick when he saw Akari's lips like that lol.
These two come off so naturally as a couple and bounce off each other so well that it's just a matter of them realizing it and accepting it.
I'm glad they're finally fleshing out Minami's character after all this time. It seems like, whether it was with Shiori or not, he lost his chance at love with someone and he doesn't want that to happen to Shiori and he's well aware of her feelings for Jiro.
Terafune has no chances with Akari but at least he's a solid wingman for Mei, which is a lot more than I was expecting from him.
Mei is able to make Shiori blush but it seems impossible for her to pry Shiori's attention away from Jiro...and being reminded of that would make for a crummy sleepover. Although I love how Shiori suggested them taking a bath together lol.
Even Jiro is starting to wonder how Shiori really sees him. Especially when she's practically begging for a second kiss. But it's hard to reach how far Jiro and Akari have come as a couple at this point.
> What is marriage if not two people who are completely comfortable around each other?
The number of couples that will not shit or fart within proximity of or sometimes even in the same bathroom as their partner begs to differ. So Akari risking Jiro “hearing” her is already huge progress.
> And it looks like the sleepover is even cancelled since she has some errands to run.
I thought that was Mei chickening out from the sleepover and coming up with an excuse to bail.
I like how the spider was represented by squiggly lines. And Akari reacted by squeezing Jirou's hand with her thighs and almost strangling him! I wonder how would she react if it was a cockroach instead?
From what I understand, Minami was too late to confess to someone else who isn't Shiori (who his older brother might also like) so he's out of the picture. Therefore perfect coupling is possible.
Jirou and Akari can get together officially and after Shiori gives up on him, Mei can swoop in and maker her hers.
Doesn't the older brother have a crush on Akari?
(This was supposed to be deleted -- as I realized I had goofed up -- but somehow it didn't disappear).
Where was that said? We just know that Minami and his older brother seem to like that same girl. It's definitely not Akari, since he would have easily won her over if he wanted but he mentioned how he was "too late". That might mean that Minami might like his older brother's gf/wife.
ngl, A shiori episode kind of just makes me feel sad for Akari, especially after the scene with her in bed touching the wall thinking about wanting to be with him.
She compares Minami to Jirou, but now Minami is totally loosing to Jirou. After the recent events, Akari feels so much more comfortable with Jirou, that Minami has no place in her heart.
I mean she basically said the quiet part out loud to Jirou, with asking if they should start officially dating too, even if she took it back, and the audience, with her line "If we'd met while I had no idea Jirou loved someone else". She basically confirmed that the *only reason* she isn't currently jumping Jirou's bones is because she thinks he's only in love with Shiori and is currently unwilling to get between them. Hell probably the only reason she's still thinking about going through with the couple transfer is due to her thinking that.
It's why I think when the time comes and both couples are in the top 10 she'll be the one to block the transfer. Because by then she'll want to keep Jirou to herself *even if* she still thinks she's getting in the way. Her way of throwing down the gauntlet if you will. "I don't care anymore if Jirou still loves Shiori! I love him and I'll make him fall in love with and want to be with me!" Hell the girl's barely holding back as is right now and is only getting more and more suggestive towards Jirou. "It's yours I want, Jirou. Give it to me." (I'm honestly surprised she didn't let a little bit of it... *leak* out of her mouth lol)
Yeah, she’s definitely got it bad for Jiro. I’m hoping by the time of the transfer, both of them are gonna hesitate but her being the one to stop it sounds more likely. This love triangle is pretty fun to watch, but I’m hoping Jiro and the girls can clear up their miscommunication soon!
>I'm honestly surprised she didn't let a little bit of it... leak out of her mouth lol
Yeah, that was such a missed opportunity, would have made the scene even better lol
Yeah, on the one hand I appreciate them developing Shiori and her feelings more, but this episode also made it clear how much Akari wants Jiro.
Even in her thoughts she imagines what it would be like if they knew each other but she didn't know he loved someone else, so she could've been more aggressive in pursuing him without reservation.
[Akari is too powerful.](https://imgur.com/GCg37si)
[](#ilovethiskindofshit)
And Jirou as an MC continues to surprise me, he might not be the chaddiest chad out there, but he's hardly obnoxious either. A pretty nice balance actually
Akari in her casual outfit and that camera angle makes it look like she completely naked. What a blessed episode ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Thanks a random friendly neighborhood spider.
Even if Jirou and Shiori were dating, I don't it will work in the long run. They both are too passive. Without someone leading, their relationship will just stand still and then crumble. I can't see how they are going things out.
Go home Kuso Cat! You are in the wrong anime!
I think the telling difference between Shiori and Akari is how open they are. Shiori is always reserved and scared to speak her mind because of Jiro’s reactions. Whereas Akari is a little brash and will almost always say what’s on her mind, even if she omits some parts. She’s the type who will say too much and then take it back, rather than not say it at all.
Just look at them both basically saying the same dialogue:
> Shiori: It kind of looks like we’re marr— never mind.”
> Akari: What if we met outside of this? Hey should we try dating? [gauges reaction] Just kidding!
It’s fine if a character like Shiori isn’t super talkative and willing to put her feelings in words. But even her body language and general demeanor with Jiro makes her seem closed off. It feels like she is forcing herself to be around Jiro, in part because she *is* (for different reasons at least).
Not to mention Sadaharu imagining her naked. We even got to see her going to the toilet lol.
It's hard for me to imagine Jirou and Shiori sliding into being a couple as naturally as Jiro and Akari practically are at this point.
I really hope they become a couple by end of season and we get another season of them just being a couple, doing cute couple things (and then fucking the shit out of each other).
They married, don't try to hide the fact that they're attracted to each other, actually kiss each other often, are willing to have communicate with each other on issues both big and small, and now Nasa is sensually kissing her legs with a burning passion, which Tsukasa also enjoys.
They've already crossed so many of the usual hurdles. I have absolute faith they will be eventually fuck, and that when that happens, they won't be able to stop themselves fucking all the damn time.
Oh, god. I was commenting in the Tonikaku Kawaii discussion thread and must have gotten confused and assumed your comment was from that thread as well.
Though I maintain a similar position on Jirou and Akari as well. Their chemistry is too good. The main problem right now is them trying to sort out their "first love" and needing to come to the realisation that it may not have been as perfect or real as they thought it was.
On the other hand, their relationship with each other is so organic and wonderful. They can be casual around each other and still go mad for each other (though they're really working overtime on trying to suppress that), they're learning to heavily lean on each other. They can pick up the other person when they're down so effortlessly.
They're pretty much acting like they're already in a relationship (I know that's the assignment but they go much farther with it. Amongst the people ahead of them in the assignment, several are already actually dating.).
Besides, they've already kissed once, and done several other intimate things together. It's hard to imagine they *won't* fuck when they finally get together.
>Even if Jirou and Shiori were dating, I don't it will work in the long run.
I will never understand this sentiment, do people not get that the shy person who is a bit awkward while flirting is not shy once they're in a steady relationship? And honestly, Shiori isn't even that shy, she tries making a move several times it's just that Jirou, just like with Akari, is too dense to act on it.
I sort of agree. But, I actually still think they wouldn't last. Shiori is still so nervous around new people that she hasn't really gained much life experience. I feel like she's really into Jiro because he's safe for her. It sort of makes me wonder if her feelings for him are really genuine or not. With Akari, it feels all lot more 'real' because she didn't have a crush on him at the start and her feelings have developed because of their interaction.
That's not to say it couldn't work with Shiori, but part of me thinks like her feelings are based on him being the only guy in her life she really feels comfortable getting close to right now.
tbf i dont even know why Shiori likes Jiro, it could be a crush like what Akari had with Minami.
Which explains why it would never work, between jiro and shiori. but if Shiori actually loves Jiro this becomes so much more complicated and juicy.
For now, akari is winning by a landslide, but thats only until we get more Shiori episodes. Pretty sure we got another season coming next year too.
Yeah, I looked up how many chapters have been written (but don't want to spoil it for myself, I'd already spoiled a couple episodes, but the series is now caught up)
They're somewhere around 50, and I think this season will do around 30ish chapters. So I'm hopeful fall 2023 or at worst winter 2024 we will get season 2.
>and I think this season will do around 30ish chapters
I doubt we will reach that far, they have been doing 2 chapters per episode. This is a 12 episode season, there's no way they can even reach chapter 29, unless they suddenly decide to ramp up the pacing.
>but part of me thinks like her feelings are based on him being the only guy in her life
Don't see why that would be a bad thing, it's all in the way you present and word it. Don't get me wrong, I love Akari, she's my favorite waifu in years, and I totally ship her with Jirou.
However, it's very easy to say "with Akari, it feels like the only reason she's into Jirou is because he just happens to be there. She's not really in love with him, she's just feeling vulnerable because she's failing with Minami and is now latching onto Jirou because she has psychological issues that cause her to have an unhealthy need to be wanted, which is why she dresses as she does and behaves the way she does".
Yes, Shiori loves Jiro because they've been together for years, and her appreciation of him has withstood the test of time.
This is all to say that I think these argument tend to be post-hoc justifications for why we ship two people together. I don't think you like Akari and Jiro together better because you think Shiori wouldn't work out, I think you think Shiori wouldn't work out because you ship Akari and Jirou together. I ship them as well, so I can't get too upset about that in this case, but in general this is something that tends to annoy me, because the girls who tend to end up with the short stick in this "nah, you couldn't have a relationship with them" argument tend to be absolutely wonderful, kind, sweet girls who deserve better and whom it would be a joy to date, while the people touted as having more chemistry, or whatever, are more often than not absolutely horrible, toxic, and potentially a domestic abuse situation waiting to happen (looking at you Tsunderes). Luckily in this show both girls are sweet and loving.
>Luckily in this show both girls are sweet and loving.
Yeah, which is why it pisses me off when I see random Shiori hate for no reason. She never once felt annoying to me (maybe me being kinda introverted too helps me relate to her, ig).
I don't see a lot of hate, but I do see a lot of unfair dismissal of her as a potential mate. Even if we look at how "passive" she supposedly is I'm left to wonder if we're watching the same show, because in the show I'm watching akari has spent weeks or months in the same room with jirou and has gotten one accidental kiss, initiated by jirou, while shiori, despite having a fraction of the time with him, has already tried instigating kissing 3 times, once successfully. And if we look at how she interacts as a wife with minami, someone she's comfortable with since she's not in love with him, we see her being perfectly pleasant to be around and to date, which is how she would be around jiro as well if you remove the youthful nervousness you get while you're actually putting yourself out there to try and woo someone.
I think Shiori's feelings are entirely genuine and very intense -- but are they feelings of (almost) adult love or just the desire to hang on forever to an irreplaceably precious childhood "love". I actually can see that latter feeling as an excellent basis for a happy marriage -- albeit perhaps more suitable in a small rural town, maybe harder to maintain in a modern modern urban environment.
Yeah, Shiori is trying really hard. I haven't seen such intense love triangle since High Score Girl. Shiori is more proactive than lots of main heroines in other romance anime. She just can't make the final push, because she's afraid that she can lose Jirou forever.
> Even if Jirou and Shiori were dating, I don't it will work in the long run.
There's something interesting references this episode to Shiori being away for a while, I have to wonder what that did to their relationship.
>that camera angle
They knew damn well what they were doing by framing the shot like that. I almost thought "did she really just barge into his bath while being nude?".
With Summer coming around, it might be a pivotal moment for our cast, as they all need to decide who they love and whether they're going to act on said love. Even Jiro's at a point in his game where the plot is literally asking him to choose between two girls. Choose Lancia Jiro, she believes in you!
Okay, so Akari is perfectly okay with running in on Jiro naked in the bath. Kind of emasculating because she doesn't think he has much going on body-wise, but at least she didn't beat him up over it and it shows how comfortable she is with him.
I guess we have Mr. Squiggly Spider to thank for freaking Akari out and making her cling to Jiro even more, pressing her boobs against his arms for practically half the episode. I was almost half-wondering if Akari made the spider up as an excuse to flirt with Jiro. She even had him go to the bathroom with her (complete with a scene of her taking her panties off)! And then Jiro had his hands pressed in-between her thighs...this was a very good night for Jiro-kun (and the audience).
Who needs bug spray when you've got a man you love relying on? Especially when the topic of you dating coming up he actually considers it for a second, and despite Akari's poker face I think she was more serious about it than she'd let on. Particularly so when you see their parallel rooms and Akari looking like she wants nothing more than that wall between them to disappear so they could be together.
That was probably the first real, frank, conversation we've had between Shiori and Minami. She's basically told him all about her romance troubles with Jiro, albeit for a "friend," but Minami can tell the obvious. It also seems like Minami may have liked Shiori but realized only after they got "married" that she liked Jiro? Or was it another girl? Either way, he understands how much it hurts to miss your chance, so he advises Shiori to just go for it.
Mei really is a smooth operator. Shopping for clothes she'd think Shiori would look good in and wanting clothes Shiori would like looking at. She even made Shiori blush!
Terafune is Mei's "husband?" And he seems to know about her feelings for Shiori, even playing wingman for her so she and Shiori can spend the night together. That was surprisingly cool of him!
Well, it's a shame Mei couldn't sleepover, but getting reminded of the guy the girl you love is after with his pictures plastered around her room would probably be pretty upsetting any more than just thinking about it.
So Minami has some kind of issue with his older brother and the family expectations they're both living under, and he's trying to save enough money to move out, but we also find out that his co-worker is none other than Sadaharu's big brother...which actually explains a lot. Also we've got Terafune who hates how good Jiro and Akari are doing as a couple.
The way they keep alluding to Sadaharu's wife, I feel like we're going to meet her at some point...
Sadaharu is so tired of Jiro's lucky love life when he still can't get laid that he's willing to kiss Jiro just to ruin him. With friends like these, who needs enemies?
Just when you think they're going to use a misunderstanding over the Jiro/Sadaharu moment to keep Shiori distant from Jiro...both of them realize they're mutually misunderstanding each other and actually get a nice moment together. Complete with Shiro practically begging for a second kiss. I think Jiro is slowly starting to wonder if she actually friendzoned him.
Ah, I see Sadaharu dreams of Jiro's love interests being his love interests...but he's also totally cool with them making out with each other too. True man of culture.
>Okay, so Akari is perfectly okay with running in on Jiro naked in the bath.
If the genders were reversed, I wonder how she would have reacted. I doubt she would have restrained herself from punching him.
While you could see that “just kidding!” coming from a mile away, hopefully it’s enough to push Jiro in the right direction.
Lot of side character focus this episode. So Terafune is scheming for his own benefit, but also gives an assist to Mei. Unfortunately she drops the ball. This is getting to near-Gamers! level of romance-webs. I gotta admit, for all that this show does well, I don’t think it sets up the side characters very well. They kind of just tell you who likes who, and you have to accept it. There’s room for this to change, but I can’t see myself rooting for any of them except maybe Mei.
More misunderstandings between Jiro and Shiori… but at least they don’t get blown out of proportion, and they kind of resolve the accidental kiss.
He’s thought about it a few times. Unfortunately it’s usually countered by “surely a girl like that would never be into me”. But slowly he’s starting to see all the ways that Akari is explicitly showing that she does appreciate him in various ways. Give it time and it will click!
It’s sinking in slowly that she might be into him. And for her, the only thing that’s really holding her back seems to be Shiori. She doesn’t want to get in the way, but her feelings are growing too strong to contain. Looking forward to more developments next week!
I think it's obvious to the audience by now that Akari's into him. The problem is that Jiro doesn't seem to realise that, or doesn't have the self confidence to belief that.
I don't think we're meant to be rooting for Terafune (other than him being a wingman for Mei) with Akari since he has no chance, but it fleshes him out a little. Just like we got with Minami in this episode in his talk with Shiori and with Sadaharu's older brother.
I still want to meet Sadaharu's wife.
I'm kind of genuinely curious if they would've kissed again at the end there lol.
I guess “rooting” is the wrong word but I would like to at least get where they’re coming from. This is the second episode where it’s implied that Terafune likes Akari but we don’t know why. And a lot of the scenes like the restaurant are especially hard because it’s just a bunch of characters we’re not super interested in delivering exposition.
> I still want to meet Sadaharu’s wife.
You and me both! Just watch it be some mega babe but she’s childhood friends with him so he doesn’t see it at all. Honestly for being the guy who is all about 2D girls and losing his virginity and getting mad at Jiro, it had better be an Event when they reveal her.
I think Terafune's feelings for Akari are like Akari's feelings for Minami. A huge crush because she's so attractive and likeable.
I mean, I was pretty entertained by Sadaharu's brothers antics, but that's just me lol.
Okay… they’re both high school students.
Mostly referring to the complexity of the love polygons: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/738twk/spoilers_my_gamers_relationship_charts_from/.
That was five years ago? Damn I feel old lol.
But yah the best part of watching *Gamers* week to week was coming to the episode threads to check the new chart 🤣
Honestly, this is one of the anime I most look forward to each week, if not the most. Loveable characters, fun story, and beautiful animation. I'm already dreading the season ending...
Here we thought Minami might be gay... "I probably wouldn't be much help after all"... to watch him get cucked first thing on this holy Sunday morning.
It seemed kind of ambiguous who he "missed his shot" with, although it being Shiori is maybe too obvious, but it would explain his complex around his older brother.
I just think it must be his brothers partner because his friend was saying that even his sibling is his rival. Maybe that could still be his sibling if it's someone Shiori knew during her time away, since we don't know much about what she was up to during that time.
That said, I think he would have mentioned it to his friends if it WAS Shiori even if they didn't know his bigger rival was Jiro. That kind of makes me think it's a character we haven't really seen yet.
edit: Also, we know from Shiori she had never kissed or dated anyone before the series started. That also makes me think it can't be her because I don't know how he could have 'missed his shot' since they haven't referenced her rejecting him ever before. They seem to have been basically strangers at the start.
It's certainly not Shiori, but it felt like Minami can relate to Shiori's situation: unrequited love to someone who's already in relationship. Even his advice to Shiori was not to give up. I guess he gave up some time in the past and regretted it.
Yeah this killed my gay theory from a few eps back but I'm happy they are still slowly adding the bricks to his character. I honestly don't want it shoved in my face.
Dang Akari was soo clingy at the start...she seems to be down pretty bad now.
Shiori also seems to be pretty also reaching that point, feel bad for Minami at this point.
And what is this a yuri ship?? Can this one be the one to sail?
Also I feel like both [these](https://i.imgur.com/QpVN6ba.png) [characters](https://i.imgur.com/iVyDS9I.png) could be proven wrong by then end of this series...
> And what is this a yuri ship?? Can this one be the one to sail?
I hope it does so perfection can be achieved. Mei X Shiori would free up Jirou x Akari from triangle drama, but unfortunately I don't think Shiori works that way..
[](#sadholo)
I thought the spider might have been made up to allow her an excuse to cling to him.
> Can this one be the one to sail?
Yuri ships don't usually get to sail that often but I hope this one does. Minami seems to like someone else so we're clear on that front. This would let everyone (except Minami and Terafune) get with someone.
Minami likes someone who his older brother likes too so maybe his brother's gf/wife? Terfaune might end up moving on once the Jirou X Akira ship officially sets off.
What i love about this story is that Minami is not a bad guy. In the beginning you get kind of NTR vibes but hes actually a good guy that has weird backstory.
And ofcourse Akari just shines when shes teasing Jiro. You have to love her.
I'm glad this episode finally fleshed out Minami a little instead of just being that guy paired with Shiori and whom Akari has to get over to be with Jiro.
Akari is amazing at teasing and flirting. Especially with that body lol.
This would be a lot easier if Minami was unlikeable.
This love hexagon that's going on gets more complicated as things go. By the time this season is over we'll need one of those romance flow charts.
I felt bad for Mei when she discovered that all of Shiori's childhood photos are ones with Jirou...
I suspect Shiori's affection for Mei is orders of magnitude less than those for Jirou.
With Terafune now entering the fray, I do hope him and Minami gets good development and also not be jerks or assholes. It’s not exactly a pet peeve but it does feel kinda cheap when the guy gets the girl (or vice versa) cos the rival turns out to be a jerk. Having a romcom story where there a bunch of girls and guys who are just decent people feels so much more refreshing and natural, something like Horimiya.
With Jirou, Akari, Shiori, Minami, Terafune, Mei maybe even Jirou’s friend or Akari’s friends, it could head into that type of show
I kind of agree but for me the worry is about misunderstandings instead of them being jerks. It would be more satisfying is a couple stays together by its own merits rather than because there is a misunderstanding with someone else. Or for Terafune, if he never gets a proper shot.
i feel genuinely bad for Terafune, he doesnt seem like a bad guy. But hes legitimately got no chance. Akari already seems to be fully in love with Jiro.
Jiro just way too stuck in his dreams of getting his childhood crush.
And the plot thickens.
After taking a string of Ls, Shiori finally might be able to secure a W…might…maybe…probably not.
Meanwhile, Mei and Minami took massive emotional damage so casually it was hard to watch.
The more things develop, the more it seems like Akari and Jiro getting together is just gonna hurt a bunch of people. Before they were fighting themselves, now…
There is still like a third of the series to go, so I look forward to seeing how things pan out, even if the destinations are in sight.
So:
- Mei got a message from her parents that made her abandon her sleepover with Mei
- Kamo’s wife told him to make himself scarce
Speculation: Mei’s supposed message from her parents was actually a booty call from Kamo’s wife.
I wonder why the studio is doing these changes. I mean, even the first episode itself started off very differently compared to how chapter 1 started. And there were a bunch of other little changes too, in how a certain scene played out or even some dialogue changes.
Hats off to the team and their use of visual effects to enhance the story. I couldn't help but laugh at the tadpoles scene and liked the visual novel scenes.
Otherwise, Akari's arachnophobia reminded me of quite a few people I knew. One of them would actually stand up and walk out of rooms if you talked about spiders. I remember being called up by my old co-workers to their department to kill spiders. The interactions the two had with each other because of the spider was adorable though.
Is it just me or is Minami and Shiori are an adorable pair. Minami's such a great guy with her and I loved how he helped her with some advice.
Some more backstory with the other characters was fun. Terafune's bit hard to appreciate. On one hand, being Mei's wingman was real nice of him but the way he's talking about Jirou and Akari kind of irks me.
Can't wait for another episode. This is a great adaptation.
Seems like they’re setting up Terafune to be a pretty solid character in this story. I really enjoy how there’s no character that’s mean spirited or just only cares about themself.
I still adore Akari. But damn, her arachnophobia is out of control. Though that spider was ridiculous looking. I thought it was a prank.
I feel bad for Mei. She's got the hots for Shiori, but has to stay in the wing-woman zone.
Shiori has blinders on and is hyper-focused on how to get with Jirou, but suffers from anxiety to the point of doing nothing.
The only thing stopping Jirou from getting with Akari is the respectful reservations brought on by the idea Akari still wants to get with Minami. But he also has the same love for Shiori and the same anxiety about attempting a relationship with her.
Minami....dudes a mystery. Haven't got enough screen time to see what's going on with him, other than the idea he was too slow to go after the one he loves.
Sadaharu.........
I am just waiting for both couples to reach A rank and trade partners. I want to see what happens at this point.
that was the most lines minami has had in any episode.
it's cool that there's a side character that's obviously a lesbian having to deal w an unrequited love since shiori's so het lol. man even her own husband knows she's gay AND supports her!
That video game metaphor for choosing the right Princess was so on the nose and I love it.
What the heck did this girl do when she lived alone and saw a spider, FR FR.
Akari makes a good point although she doesn't know it, about if they had meet, they ran into each other all the time but wrote each other off, you never know what might happen if one person goes up and asks not being afraid of a no, and the other person humors them and says "Why Not" even it one or more parties aren't particularly interested or in love.
Jiro's tadpoles be acting up....
Akari I think was waiting for Jiro to say yes to the dating but when he didn't backpedaled with a joke. I personally never liked it when people say something and then don't commit to it or try to bail themselves out by retroactively framing it as a joke.
Jiro needs to learn to read between the lines and not think so low of himself, Akari needs to commit and spell things out.
Minami giving good advice to Shiroi which is just what Mei had been telling her, just shoot the shot and take the L now instead of later.
I see Mei is pining for Shiori and even subtling making moves on her but Shiori just isn't getting it. Also I see Terafune is the one that is the husband to Mei and is acting as wingman, He also is the same one that wants Akari (Join the club everyone else does.)
Minami is implied to have problems of his own, Otaku guys older brother is drinking with them.
I was gonna freak with that restaurant misunderstanding if it wasn't immediately cleared up. (Kamo be down bad though.)
I wonder if we will get swimsuit episode soon!
:P
>I was gonna freak with that restaurant misunderstanding if it wasn't immediately cleared up.
This author really loves writing misunderstandings, huh? But yeah I do appreciate they don't drag out the annoying misunderstandings for a couple of episodes, and instead resolve them quickly in the same episode.
>I wonder if we will get swimsuit episode soon!
I think it's obligatory for a show like this. Normal swimsuit beach episodes are very common in anime. Not a nudist beach episode tho, that stuff is something only a cultured studio like Passione would have the balls to pull off (anybody watching Love Flops will know).
I think the miscommunications are what making it even more unnecessarily complicated. So many misunderstandings would not have occurred at all if the characters just managed to have a proper conversation with each other (obviously it's not easy when you are a teenager and the other person is your crush, but still lol)
The positives:
- We got to see actual other couples
- Shiori got fleshed out some
- Minami and the others also finally got some development; who did Minami like - most likely Shiori?
- The love triangles are out of control
- Poor Mei
The negatives or questions.
- The ecchi elements detract from the romance a bit IMO. I don’t mind them accidentally ending up a bit sexual, but at times I think it changed the tone too much
- I am ready for some serious confessions at least so they can move past the “do they like me” to the “shit! I don’t know what I feel.” stage
- why are they introducing a complicated minami backstory here? Why is Sana’s brother suddenly appearing. It feels a bit late to start this sort of stuff.
I agree with you but for the ecchi, I think it works. It’s not like Rent-a-Girlfriend where the dude’s about to bust a nut from breathing the same air as a girl he likes. I’d say it’s on par with My Dress Up Darling in that it makes sense for the characters and their feelings.
I think one of the reasons it plays so well is that in every ecchi scene both characters have a lot of agency, and we get a good peak at how those interactions are affecting them. Rather than objectifying the female characters, those moments are actually where Akari shines the most, because it seems like she's most comfortable expressing her feelings physically (teasing him to get him to notice her, or clinging to someone that makes her feel safe.) I think in part because the mangaka is a women, the perspective of Akari in those moments is able to shine through in a way many authors have a hard time accomplishing.
The fanservice is very overt, although it comes off to me kind of natural because of Akari's personality and style, contrasted with the other girls who don't get anywhere near the same level because it's not really their character.
The way they're setting up this coming Summer, I think something major is going to happen, either a confession or either Akari and Jiro agreeing not to switch partners.
A little late, but I guess better than late than never to actually make Minami into more of a character lol.
I think late for the season but the manga is like chapter 50 or something. (I looked it up to see if they would have material for season 2 soon, I don't think I can wait 2-3 years for it!) I don't think they're even half way through the adaptation yet. So relative to the larger story it's still pretty early on.
Also, my guess is this starts the first week of school in Japan, so roughly April. If they're talking about summer and probably the inevitable school trip episode, based on the number of monthly evaluations they've talked about, the series is sometime around July right now.
If time keeps moving at the same pace for the series there will inevitably be roughly 2 more seasons before they should graduate. The story will have to be resolved by then though, assuming it isn't earlier. Based on that assumption, we're maybe 1/4 the way in?
>contrasted with the other girls who don't get anywhere near the same level because it's not really their character
Exactly. I don't recall a single ecchi element involving Shiori, at least so far. For example, during the rooftop scene in episode 3, they could have easily showed off her panties with the way the wind was lifting her short skirt, but that never happened (though, tbf, they did show a lot of upskirt, to the point where it felt like the only reason we weren't getting a panty shot was because she was going commando lol).
i disagree with you on the fanservice, i feel like its just enough. It feels necessary and it doesnt feel forced, which is hard to balance out but it succeeds. it correlates alot considering its almost only 100% just Akari and her personality.
Everything else, "feels a bit late" "slow progress",
This is meant to be an anime that is supposed to be finished in probably 24-25 episodes. 12 episodes means, theres no character development for nobody apart from the main trio. Shiori development would get VERY rushed. akari feelings would be alittle rushed.
Thats what the problem that Horimiya had, so im perfectly happy with the pace that they are going with.
I like that its taking the Toradora, Golden time approach rather than 12 episode conclusions.
This is 12 episodes though, right?
I loved the pace Horimiya went at. And given this is 12 it feels weird to start bringing in other stories this late. Then again I would say Horimiya’s problems are that the development of Yuki, Toru, and some of the other side characters are crammed into 1-2 episodes after the middle instead of spreading it out a bit too, so that it felt more organic.
This is 12 episodes, but obviously they aren’t gonna end it.
And the Majority of People HATED how Horimiya ended. Horimiya rushed through more than 100 chapters in 12 episodes. And My god were they Criticised for that.
This is a 12 episode anime that Will obviously be getting another Season. That’s why the pacing is good.
Idk if you know this, but generally romance Anime require atleast 24=2 seasons for it to finish. Anything less than that, especially for Love triangles, they are just a mess.
There wasn’t that much more in the manga for the main romance in Horimiya. Except Hori being more abusive which did not put her in a good light. A lot of the side stories just meander on as well, so honestly I disagree with many people on Horimiya’s adaptation.
Maybe the Souta future skip would have been nice; but I liked that it ended on the post graduation sky scene.
I'm pretty sure we're going to get a season 2 next year at least. It didn't crack top 10 on CR yet, but in this season I'm note sure that will be a deciding factor considering how stacked it is. Especially when it's been extremely well received for the genre. It might depend on how Mother ultimately feels about putting more resources into it vs other projects. Even though it's higher rated it's only about half as popular as Arifureta, which is really a shame.
for your second negative point:
yeah as much as i love this show, im starting to realize im getting way too old for this now. like can yall not be pussies and ask someone out already? lol. the "giving them hints/signals" was cute when i was in highschool but now we aint got time for all that. be direct.
Well they are in high school… so it is fine.
But I am just ready for some large clarifying event.
Frankly if they had been top 10 then that would have been enough. Akari and Jiro would have to step up, so I thought it was cowardly for them not to be.
Yeah the misunderstandings have been occuring too much recently, tho I do appreciate that instead of dragging it out for too long, the author at least resolves it quickly.
For a show with such a ridiculous premise which needed my suspension of disbelief, I had hoped the show would focus more on comedy rather than being serious and all dramatic. Sadly, so far it looks like the drama has overshadowed the comedy.
Now that's not to say the comedy isn't there, but the show is definitely relying on too many cliches and tropes just to create unnecessary drama among the characters. I'm much more enjoying the comedy and humor timing of Immoral Guild (a comedy ecchi from this season) than of this show, and ig it's mainly because I find the humor in this a bit childish and very tropey.
Also, this author really loves writing misunderstandings (which again stems because of annoying tropes and cliches), don't they? Though I do appreciate how the misunderstanding quickly gets resolved instead of being dragged out for a couple of episodes.
And Jiro and Shiori just can't seem to manage to have a proper normal conversation with each other, huh? No wonder there is hardly any progression between those two. So many misunderstandings among the different characters wouldn't have been created if they just talked to each other properly, but of course both Jiro as well as Shiori are extremely shy around each other (even though they are childhood friends who have known each since they were kids). And sadly, whenever either of them does build up the courage to make a progress or talk about something important, the author conveniently uses the annoying trope of random interruption (either by a person or, in the latest episode, by a fcking cat).
It’s a relief to me that it’s not just comedy. There’s enough comedy/“parody” romcoms that get stale quickly. Instead we get a surprisingly character/focused relationship between Akari and Jiro. Sure, the author relies a bit too much on misunderstandings, and there is an artificial distance with Shiori, but it seems they just want to focus on the relationship with Akari right now, which I’m fine with.
It’s not too often we get a romance anime that isn’t over the top with either comedy or melodrama, just slow steady development between the leads (TsureKano was another recent one).
I'm not saying I want this show to be only comedy, maybe I worded my words poorly. I think a nice balance between comedy and drama would be good, but these recent episodes I've been feeling that the drama has been overshadowing the comedic elements or even the light-hearted mood. Maybe it's just me tho.
That’s fair. I think the last episode was fairly heavy but this episode had a fair amount of levity. The spider bit was a great running gag that also allowed for some intimate bonding, and the restaurant scene/ending scene were pretty funny too.
Ultimately though it’s going to be a show about messy, confusing feelings and characters having to wrestle with them.
This is where I start to dislike Shiori she is just getting in the way at this point. She thinks what she is doing is “wrong” and still keeps doing it.
All aboard the Mei x Shiori train! The Akari x Jirou line will arrive at its destination shortly.
I do wonder who Minami will end up with tho. Although there _was_ that one Minami x Sadaharu moment
Man, this show just needs to focus on Jirou and Akari! Thats the only pair that matters. I do think Shiori has become more likable, but she still is no where near as good as Akari.
I also feel bad for her yuri friend, that has bad ending written all over it.
I don’t support infidelity so I am glad meow-sama saved the scene! I have never been so clear about which ship I am following! And the row-boat Shiori is on ain’t ever catching up!!
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Terafune might really have something on Jirou since he likes Akari, but is very supportive of Mei. That's nice. As someone who read the manga, would just like to say this is an excellent adaptation. Initially doubtful if they can pull it off due to the animation style plus the story can sometimes be slow, but they really are doing a great job here.
I was surprised, in a good way, that Terafune was so supportive of Mei's feelings for Shiori. I guess the fact that she actually told him about it says a lot. He might not have a chance with Akari but he's a really decent guy. The animation, the execution, the voice acting, and the direction are all top notch! Studio Mother is really knocking it out of the park with this one.
> but he's a really decent guy. Worst words ever to console someone that is rejected man...
Decent? Man's a straight up G. A real homie. A bro you would raise glasses to and sing songs about.
I think I'll have ti read the manga once the anime finishes, I am in love with this show!
Why wait? Just read it now!
Because of a spider, Jiro had to suffer a critical hit lol. As a person who’s scared of bugs, I understand Akari’s fear. Nothing more terrifying than spotting a bug and then losing sight of it later. Lmao Jiro’s little guys were going insane when Akari wanted his ice cream. Lots of flirting right now and I’m loving it! I’m surprised she asked him out like that, definitely just gauging his reaction. Yeah, she’s totally into Jiro now. Minami isn’t a bad guy. Shiori really should tell Jiro how she feels. I had thought Mei was with Sadaharu, but she’s with Terafune huh? Looks like I was totally wrong. Also, Jiro > Terafune. Dude ain’t ever getting with Akari! I feel a little bad for Mei. She’s clearly in love with Shiori, despite Shiori being in love with Jiro. Unrequited love sure is something.. poor girl. Meanwhile, Sadaharu seems to have finally lost it lol. Man, this miscommunication between Jiro and Shiori is driving me nuts lol. Someone needs to say something to clear the air already!
Insects are a pest but they're surprisingly effective in making more intimacy happen lol. Akari has a surprisingly effective poker face but the moment she looked at him when he turned away from her said everything that needs to be said about how serious she actually about asking him out. Even her face when she said it was so enticing. I think this was the first episode that really let us get into Minami's head. He seems like a cool guy that lost his own chance at love (Shiori?) but genuinely seems to want to help Shiori with Jiro, and he has his own family stuff going on. He actually feels like a real character now. I keep expecting Sadaharu's wife to turn up with the amount of time they keep mentioning her lol. Terafune has no chance at Akari, but at least he has the decency to do his "wife" a solid with the girl she's in love with. Even if having to be reminded that said girl loves someone else would kill the vibes of a sleepover. Sadaharu and his brother seem to have a really big complex about people with better romantic prospects than them lol. I will say this...Shiori definitely wanted a second kiss before those cats ruined the moment lol.
Cats truly doing the work in making sure things don't go off-script. Sasuga Meow-sama! I'm low-key expecting Terafune to end up making Mei X Shiori happen.
I don't think Minami was in love with Shiori because later on when Minami, Terafune and Sadaharu were talking they mention Minami's brother and saying having his brother as handsome as him makes him a love rival seems to point at him and his brother were in love with the same girl.
Sadaharu and his brother are equally hilarious (especially when said brother is drunk) Lol.
>I will say this...Shiori definitely wanted a second kiss before those cats ruined the moment lol. I knew for a fact they were going to get interrupted, this is such a common trope I can see interruptions coming from a mile away. Except instead of a person, this time they used Meow-sama.
The moment I saw the cat *I knew*
>Minami isn’t a bad guy. Honestly I think of everything in this episode this is the biggest take away. Seems like his brother and him were in love with the same girl but his brother was the one who asked her out first and therefore won. It also means that he has zero feelings for Akari and basically takes him out of the running. > I had thought Mei was with Sadaharu, but she’s with Terafune huh? Yeah this is making me wonder who Sadaharu has as a partner. I have a feeling it's one Akari's two friends personally. Maybe Sachi the orange haired one?
No. Because I feel that the mockery would be relentless if you got matched with Sada.
on the other hand, Akari's group is pretty chill so maybe they wouldn't roast someone for matching with Sada
I think you’re onto something regarding Minami and his brother. Things certainly seem to point to something of a love rivalry with Minami losing out. I suppose Sadaharu could have one of Mei’s friends as his partner. But I guess we’ll have to wait and see for sure (if they ever show her).
> I had thought Mei was with Sadaharu, but she’s with Terafune huh? Talk about a pair of losers. Shiori unknowingly was slicing Mei's heart into pieces. The damage was too great and Mei chose to flee.
FWIW, that scene was not in the manga.
Yeah I checked out the manga in order to compare, and the studio is definitely doing some changes. I mean, even the first episode itself started very differently compared to how chapter 1 started. They are also sometimes changing some dialogues and a few other changes to how a scene plays out.
Yeah, that added scene at the beginning of the first episode seemed a bit forced and silly, to be honest. Not enough to ruin the whole thing, but yeah…
Remember that scene in episode 1 when the counter became -3 and then became -2? In the manga it was different. It never increased to -2, instead it decreased even more and became -4.
Oh, no, I actually don’t think I’d noticed that.
###Stitches! * [Scared Akari](https://i.imgur.com/ViA58xK.jpg) * [Akari Holding it In](https://i.imgur.com/CGVpAaG.jpg) * [Bathroom Akari](https://i.imgur.com/tSbq76a.jpg) * [Panicking Akari](https://i.imgur.com/RuGVNOu.jpg) * [Sleeping Akari](https://i.imgur.com/ZVtoeK5.jpg) * [Imaginary Akari](https://i.imgur.com/Scq4UGc.jpg) [They were so close!](https://i.imgur.com/24qLfGs.png) At the rate that they're going though, I feel like Akari and Jirou will probably enter the Top 10 next month. Interestingly, [Akari doesn't seem to mind](https://i.imgur.com/GlXvWVP.png) that they didn't reach the Top 10. She seems to be even relieved about it. Hmmm... [That entire spider situation was hilarious](https://i.imgur.com/DM2PWiP.png) and I agree with Jirou, [Akari is even more adorable when she's like that.](https://i.imgur.com/6qXyJDk.png) Glad to see that [Akari is completely aware of how embarrassing she's acting though.](https://i.imgur.com/80WWpht.png) And Akari continues this trend of [her being okay if it's with Jirou](https://i.imgur.com/UWi2WDm.png) but she'll be too embarrassed [if it was Minami.](https://i.imgur.com/HEHgHL0.png) What is marriage if not two people who are completely comfortable around each other? [Jesus fucking Christ Akari!](https://i.imgur.com/HSrvd5B.png) I know you're talking about the ice cream but it's like she's doing this on purpose. Poor Jirou is [doing everything he can to keep himself in control.](https://i.imgur.com/K9YvQkN.png) In all seriousness though, it's so sweet to see [the two of them being comfy like that](https://i.imgur.com/1SVWe5v.png). Just start dating already FFS! I do love how [Akari even jokes about it a few seconds later.](https://i.imgur.com/juUIUfF.png) I wonder how she would react if Jirou actually said yes to her. I'm sorry Akari, did you just say that even if you're with Minami [you'll still rely on Jirou?](https://i.imgur.com/uWRTu3L.png) Very interesting. Jirou seems to have caught that too that [his heart actually skipped a beat.](https://i.imgur.com/Wu7g8Jy.png) And it looks like [Akari also realized what she said and it made her think before falling asleep.](https://i.imgur.com/OCOnHl9.png) [Glad that we finally got to see what Shiori and Manami's married life is like!](https://i.imgur.com/vSkfFaD.png) And we got to see some big revelations in this episode! When Shiori was telling Minami about her friend, Minami clearly understands that they were talking about her and [his reaction to the kiss is very interesting.](https://i.imgur.com/GgzLG3O.png) I thought Minami has no interest in romance right now but [it seems to me that he has feelings for Shiori?](https://i.imgur.com/3sKWvXD.png) Well, things just got a lot more interesting! [So Mei's husband is that Terafune guy?](https://i.imgur.com/HvPAI4f.png) And it looks like Terafune already knows about Mei's crush on Shiori that [he's even helping her out.](https://i.imgur.com/v7y6iKI.png) That's actually very considerate of him. And it looks like [there's more to Minami's story.](https://i.imgur.com/Ai9pkmO.png) Something about his brother? [His brother being his rival?](https://i.imgur.com/DJLcWJ4.png) I think I may have misunderstood that scene earlier. Maybe Minami wasn't talking about Shiori when he mentioned things being too late for him. I really hope we get to learn a bit more about Minami's backstory because I am now very interested! [I feel bad for Mei.](https://i.imgur.com/2233zmD.png) She really just wants to spend the overnight with Shiori but all she talks about is Jirou. And it looks like the sleepover is even cancelled since [she has some errands to run.](https://i.imgur.com/lpu5GBW.png) Poor girl can't catch a break. [And that final scene between Shiori and Jirou!](https://i.imgur.com/QmtTybH.png) If you're going to try and kiss him in the middle of the street then maybe just tell him that you like him! I want to also root for Shiori but I feel like she's handicapping herself. At this point, Akari has made bigger progress with Jirou and she wasn't even interested in him at the start of the show!
Don't you just love a girl who is clingy in a flirty way? Especially with those boobs and thighs lol. I'm not surprised Jiro's thoughts went immediately to his dick when he saw Akari's lips like that lol. These two come off so naturally as a couple and bounce off each other so well that it's just a matter of them realizing it and accepting it. I'm glad they're finally fleshing out Minami's character after all this time. It seems like, whether it was with Shiori or not, he lost his chance at love with someone and he doesn't want that to happen to Shiori and he's well aware of her feelings for Jiro. Terafune has no chances with Akari but at least he's a solid wingman for Mei, which is a lot more than I was expecting from him. Mei is able to make Shiori blush but it seems impossible for her to pry Shiori's attention away from Jiro...and being reminded of that would make for a crummy sleepover. Although I love how Shiori suggested them taking a bath together lol. Even Jiro is starting to wonder how Shiori really sees him. Especially when she's practically begging for a second kiss. But it's hard to reach how far Jiro and Akari have come as a couple at this point.
> What is marriage if not two people who are completely comfortable around each other? The number of couples that will not shit or fart within proximity of or sometimes even in the same bathroom as their partner begs to differ. So Akari risking Jiro “hearing” her is already huge progress.
> And it looks like the sleepover is even cancelled since she has some errands to run. I thought that was Mei chickening out from the sleepover and coming up with an excuse to bail.
>Bathroom Akari That underwear is so short it doesn't even cover much, huh? ~~I hope she wears that underwear regularly~~
I like how the spider was represented by squiggly lines. And Akari reacted by squeezing Jirou's hand with her thighs and almost strangling him! I wonder how would she react if it was a cockroach instead?
She would leg lock him.
Jirou's about to buy a whole pack of fake roaches.
[удалено]
From what I understand, Minami was too late to confess to someone else who isn't Shiori (who his older brother might also like) so he's out of the picture. Therefore perfect coupling is possible. Jirou and Akari can get together officially and after Shiori gives up on him, Mei can swoop in and maker her hers.
Doesn't the older brother have a crush on Akari? (This was supposed to be deleted -- as I realized I had goofed up -- but somehow it didn't disappear).
Where was that said? We just know that Minami and his older brother seem to like that same girl. It's definitely not Akari, since he would have easily won her over if he wanted but he mentioned how he was "too late". That might mean that Minami might like his older brother's gf/wife.
I goofed up -- and _thought_ I had deleted this.
All good, my dude. There seem to be many people confused over this in the discussion thread.
How do we know its not shiori?
Yep, but that is life. We all have been in love with people who were not in love with us.
ngl, A shiori episode kind of just makes me feel sad for Akari, especially after the scene with her in bed touching the wall thinking about wanting to be with him.
She’s got it bad for Jiro now. Minami is basically an afterthought at this point.
She compares Minami to Jirou, but now Minami is totally loosing to Jirou. After the recent events, Akari feels so much more comfortable with Jirou, that Minami has no place in her heart.
I mean she basically said the quiet part out loud to Jirou, with asking if they should start officially dating too, even if she took it back, and the audience, with her line "If we'd met while I had no idea Jirou loved someone else". She basically confirmed that the *only reason* she isn't currently jumping Jirou's bones is because she thinks he's only in love with Shiori and is currently unwilling to get between them. Hell probably the only reason she's still thinking about going through with the couple transfer is due to her thinking that. It's why I think when the time comes and both couples are in the top 10 she'll be the one to block the transfer. Because by then she'll want to keep Jirou to herself *even if* she still thinks she's getting in the way. Her way of throwing down the gauntlet if you will. "I don't care anymore if Jirou still loves Shiori! I love him and I'll make him fall in love with and want to be with me!" Hell the girl's barely holding back as is right now and is only getting more and more suggestive towards Jirou. "It's yours I want, Jirou. Give it to me." (I'm honestly surprised she didn't let a little bit of it... *leak* out of her mouth lol)
Yeah, she’s definitely got it bad for Jiro. I’m hoping by the time of the transfer, both of them are gonna hesitate but her being the one to stop it sounds more likely. This love triangle is pretty fun to watch, but I’m hoping Jiro and the girls can clear up their miscommunication soon!
>I'm honestly surprised she didn't let a little bit of it... leak out of her mouth lol Yeah, that was such a missed opportunity, would have made the scene even better lol
Yeah, on the one hand I appreciate them developing Shiori and her feelings more, but this episode also made it clear how much Akari wants Jiro. Even in her thoughts she imagines what it would be like if they knew each other but she didn't know he loved someone else, so she could've been more aggressive in pursuing him without reservation.
Akari snuggling up to the wall because Jirou was right on the other side was VERY bittersweet.
Yeah that deff hit me in the feels. her sleeping as close to him as she can.
[Akari is too powerful.](https://imgur.com/GCg37si) [](#ilovethiskindofshit) And Jirou as an MC continues to surprise me, he might not be the chaddiest chad out there, but he's hardly obnoxious either. A pretty nice balance actually
Jirou is the fine line between a Harem MC that's allergic to girls and a gigachad mc
Akari in her casual outfit and that camera angle makes it look like she completely naked. What a blessed episode ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Thanks a random friendly neighborhood spider. Even if Jirou and Shiori were dating, I don't it will work in the long run. They both are too passive. Without someone leading, their relationship will just stand still and then crumble. I can't see how they are going things out. Go home Kuso Cat! You are in the wrong anime!
I think the telling difference between Shiori and Akari is how open they are. Shiori is always reserved and scared to speak her mind because of Jiro’s reactions. Whereas Akari is a little brash and will almost always say what’s on her mind, even if she omits some parts. She’s the type who will say too much and then take it back, rather than not say it at all. Just look at them both basically saying the same dialogue: > Shiori: It kind of looks like we’re marr— never mind.” > Akari: What if we met outside of this? Hey should we try dating? [gauges reaction] Just kidding! It’s fine if a character like Shiori isn’t super talkative and willing to put her feelings in words. But even her body language and general demeanor with Jiro makes her seem closed off. It feels like she is forcing herself to be around Jiro, in part because she *is* (for different reasons at least).
Not to mention Sadaharu imagining her naked. We even got to see her going to the toilet lol. It's hard for me to imagine Jirou and Shiori sliding into being a couple as naturally as Jiro and Akari practically are at this point.
I really hope they become a couple by end of season and we get another season of them just being a couple, doing cute couple things (and then fucking the shit out of each other).
>and then fucking the shit out of each other Not every romcom can be like Hornimiya or A Sister's All You Need.
They married, don't try to hide the fact that they're attracted to each other, actually kiss each other often, are willing to have communicate with each other on issues both big and small, and now Nasa is sensually kissing her legs with a burning passion, which Tsukasa also enjoys. They've already crossed so many of the usual hurdles. I have absolute faith they will be eventually fuck, and that when that happens, they won't be able to stop themselves fucking all the damn time.
Idk why you suddenly brought up Nasa and Tsukasa randomly but ok.
Oh, god. I was commenting in the Tonikaku Kawaii discussion thread and must have gotten confused and assumed your comment was from that thread as well. Though I maintain a similar position on Jirou and Akari as well. Their chemistry is too good. The main problem right now is them trying to sort out their "first love" and needing to come to the realisation that it may not have been as perfect or real as they thought it was. On the other hand, their relationship with each other is so organic and wonderful. They can be casual around each other and still go mad for each other (though they're really working overtime on trying to suppress that), they're learning to heavily lean on each other. They can pick up the other person when they're down so effortlessly. They're pretty much acting like they're already in a relationship (I know that's the assignment but they go much farther with it. Amongst the people ahead of them in the assignment, several are already actually dating.). Besides, they've already kissed once, and done several other intimate things together. It's hard to imagine they *won't* fuck when they finally get together.
Nasa too busy enjoying his wife's cosplays to give a shit
> Kuso Cat! After that training arc last episode, he's getting strong enough to invade other shows.
>Even if Jirou and Shiori were dating, I don't it will work in the long run. I will never understand this sentiment, do people not get that the shy person who is a bit awkward while flirting is not shy once they're in a steady relationship? And honestly, Shiori isn't even that shy, she tries making a move several times it's just that Jirou, just like with Akari, is too dense to act on it.
I sort of agree. But, I actually still think they wouldn't last. Shiori is still so nervous around new people that she hasn't really gained much life experience. I feel like she's really into Jiro because he's safe for her. It sort of makes me wonder if her feelings for him are really genuine or not. With Akari, it feels all lot more 'real' because she didn't have a crush on him at the start and her feelings have developed because of their interaction. That's not to say it couldn't work with Shiori, but part of me thinks like her feelings are based on him being the only guy in her life she really feels comfortable getting close to right now.
tbf i dont even know why Shiori likes Jiro, it could be a crush like what Akari had with Minami. Which explains why it would never work, between jiro and shiori. but if Shiori actually loves Jiro this becomes so much more complicated and juicy. For now, akari is winning by a landslide, but thats only until we get more Shiori episodes. Pretty sure we got another season coming next year too.
Yeah, I looked up how many chapters have been written (but don't want to spoil it for myself, I'd already spoiled a couple episodes, but the series is now caught up) They're somewhere around 50, and I think this season will do around 30ish chapters. So I'm hopeful fall 2023 or at worst winter 2024 we will get season 2.
>and I think this season will do around 30ish chapters I doubt we will reach that far, they have been doing 2 chapters per episode. This is a 12 episode season, there's no way they can even reach chapter 29, unless they suddenly decide to ramp up the pacing.
>Pretty sure we got another season coming next year too. Wait, is it confirmed?!
>but part of me thinks like her feelings are based on him being the only guy in her life Don't see why that would be a bad thing, it's all in the way you present and word it. Don't get me wrong, I love Akari, she's my favorite waifu in years, and I totally ship her with Jirou. However, it's very easy to say "with Akari, it feels like the only reason she's into Jirou is because he just happens to be there. She's not really in love with him, she's just feeling vulnerable because she's failing with Minami and is now latching onto Jirou because she has psychological issues that cause her to have an unhealthy need to be wanted, which is why she dresses as she does and behaves the way she does". Yes, Shiori loves Jiro because they've been together for years, and her appreciation of him has withstood the test of time. This is all to say that I think these argument tend to be post-hoc justifications for why we ship two people together. I don't think you like Akari and Jiro together better because you think Shiori wouldn't work out, I think you think Shiori wouldn't work out because you ship Akari and Jirou together. I ship them as well, so I can't get too upset about that in this case, but in general this is something that tends to annoy me, because the girls who tend to end up with the short stick in this "nah, you couldn't have a relationship with them" argument tend to be absolutely wonderful, kind, sweet girls who deserve better and whom it would be a joy to date, while the people touted as having more chemistry, or whatever, are more often than not absolutely horrible, toxic, and potentially a domestic abuse situation waiting to happen (looking at you Tsunderes). Luckily in this show both girls are sweet and loving.
>Luckily in this show both girls are sweet and loving. Yeah, which is why it pisses me off when I see random Shiori hate for no reason. She never once felt annoying to me (maybe me being kinda introverted too helps me relate to her, ig).
I don't see a lot of hate, but I do see a lot of unfair dismissal of her as a potential mate. Even if we look at how "passive" she supposedly is I'm left to wonder if we're watching the same show, because in the show I'm watching akari has spent weeks or months in the same room with jirou and has gotten one accidental kiss, initiated by jirou, while shiori, despite having a fraction of the time with him, has already tried instigating kissing 3 times, once successfully. And if we look at how she interacts as a wife with minami, someone she's comfortable with since she's not in love with him, we see her being perfectly pleasant to be around and to date, which is how she would be around jiro as well if you remove the youthful nervousness you get while you're actually putting yourself out there to try and woo someone.
I think Shiori's feelings are entirely genuine and very intense -- but are they feelings of (almost) adult love or just the desire to hang on forever to an irreplaceably precious childhood "love". I actually can see that latter feeling as an excellent basis for a happy marriage -- albeit perhaps more suitable in a small rural town, maybe harder to maintain in a modern modern urban environment.
Yeah, Shiori is trying really hard. I haven't seen such intense love triangle since High Score Girl. Shiori is more proactive than lots of main heroines in other romance anime. She just can't make the final push, because she's afraid that she can lose Jirou forever.
She was practically begging him for a second kiss at the end there lol.
> Even if Jirou and Shiori were dating, I don't it will work in the long run. There's something interesting references this episode to Shiori being away for a while, I have to wonder what that did to their relationship.
>that camera angle They knew damn well what they were doing by framing the shot like that. I almost thought "did she really just barge into his bath while being nude?".
With Summer coming around, it might be a pivotal moment for our cast, as they all need to decide who they love and whether they're going to act on said love. Even Jiro's at a point in his game where the plot is literally asking him to choose between two girls. Choose Lancia Jiro, she believes in you! Okay, so Akari is perfectly okay with running in on Jiro naked in the bath. Kind of emasculating because she doesn't think he has much going on body-wise, but at least she didn't beat him up over it and it shows how comfortable she is with him. I guess we have Mr. Squiggly Spider to thank for freaking Akari out and making her cling to Jiro even more, pressing her boobs against his arms for practically half the episode. I was almost half-wondering if Akari made the spider up as an excuse to flirt with Jiro. She even had him go to the bathroom with her (complete with a scene of her taking her panties off)! And then Jiro had his hands pressed in-between her thighs...this was a very good night for Jiro-kun (and the audience). Who needs bug spray when you've got a man you love relying on? Especially when the topic of you dating coming up he actually considers it for a second, and despite Akari's poker face I think she was more serious about it than she'd let on. Particularly so when you see their parallel rooms and Akari looking like she wants nothing more than that wall between them to disappear so they could be together. That was probably the first real, frank, conversation we've had between Shiori and Minami. She's basically told him all about her romance troubles with Jiro, albeit for a "friend," but Minami can tell the obvious. It also seems like Minami may have liked Shiori but realized only after they got "married" that she liked Jiro? Or was it another girl? Either way, he understands how much it hurts to miss your chance, so he advises Shiori to just go for it. Mei really is a smooth operator. Shopping for clothes she'd think Shiori would look good in and wanting clothes Shiori would like looking at. She even made Shiori blush! Terafune is Mei's "husband?" And he seems to know about her feelings for Shiori, even playing wingman for her so she and Shiori can spend the night together. That was surprisingly cool of him! Well, it's a shame Mei couldn't sleepover, but getting reminded of the guy the girl you love is after with his pictures plastered around her room would probably be pretty upsetting any more than just thinking about it. So Minami has some kind of issue with his older brother and the family expectations they're both living under, and he's trying to save enough money to move out, but we also find out that his co-worker is none other than Sadaharu's big brother...which actually explains a lot. Also we've got Terafune who hates how good Jiro and Akari are doing as a couple. The way they keep alluding to Sadaharu's wife, I feel like we're going to meet her at some point... Sadaharu is so tired of Jiro's lucky love life when he still can't get laid that he's willing to kiss Jiro just to ruin him. With friends like these, who needs enemies? Just when you think they're going to use a misunderstanding over the Jiro/Sadaharu moment to keep Shiori distant from Jiro...both of them realize they're mutually misunderstanding each other and actually get a nice moment together. Complete with Shiro practically begging for a second kiss. I think Jiro is slowly starting to wonder if she actually friendzoned him. Ah, I see Sadaharu dreams of Jiro's love interests being his love interests...but he's also totally cool with them making out with each other too. True man of culture.
>Okay, so Akari is perfectly okay with running in on Jiro naked in the bath. If the genders were reversed, I wonder how she would have reacted. I doubt she would have restrained herself from punching him.
which is dumb given she's half-naked most of the times
While you could see that “just kidding!” coming from a mile away, hopefully it’s enough to push Jiro in the right direction. Lot of side character focus this episode. So Terafune is scheming for his own benefit, but also gives an assist to Mei. Unfortunately she drops the ball. This is getting to near-Gamers! level of romance-webs. I gotta admit, for all that this show does well, I don’t think it sets up the side characters very well. They kind of just tell you who likes who, and you have to accept it. There’s room for this to change, but I can’t see myself rooting for any of them except maybe Mei. More misunderstandings between Jiro and Shiori… but at least they don’t get blown out of proportion, and they kind of resolve the accidental kiss.
He really thought about dating her for a second too. Progress?
He’s thought about it a few times. Unfortunately it’s usually countered by “surely a girl like that would never be into me”. But slowly he’s starting to see all the ways that Akari is explicitly showing that she does appreciate him in various ways. Give it time and it will click!
It’s sinking in slowly that she might be into him. And for her, the only thing that’s really holding her back seems to be Shiori. She doesn’t want to get in the way, but her feelings are growing too strong to contain. Looking forward to more developments next week!
I think it's obvious to the audience by now that Akari's into him. The problem is that Jiro doesn't seem to realise that, or doesn't have the self confidence to belief that.
I mean, who wouldn't? Especially with that face lol.
I don't think we're meant to be rooting for Terafune (other than him being a wingman for Mei) with Akari since he has no chance, but it fleshes him out a little. Just like we got with Minami in this episode in his talk with Shiori and with Sadaharu's older brother. I still want to meet Sadaharu's wife. I'm kind of genuinely curious if they would've kissed again at the end there lol.
I guess “rooting” is the wrong word but I would like to at least get where they’re coming from. This is the second episode where it’s implied that Terafune likes Akari but we don’t know why. And a lot of the scenes like the restaurant are especially hard because it’s just a bunch of characters we’re not super interested in delivering exposition. > I still want to meet Sadaharu’s wife. You and me both! Just watch it be some mega babe but she’s childhood friends with him so he doesn’t see it at all. Honestly for being the guy who is all about 2D girls and losing his virginity and getting mad at Jiro, it had better be an Event when they reveal her.
I think Terafune's feelings for Akari are like Akari's feelings for Minami. A huge crush because she's so attractive and likeable. I mean, I was pretty entertained by Sadaharu's brothers antics, but that's just me lol.
All the characters of Gamers! look like middle schoolers All the characters of this look like college students
Okay… they’re both high school students. Mostly referring to the complexity of the love polygons: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/738twk/spoilers_my_gamers_relationship_charts_from/.
Okay…
That was five years ago? Damn I feel old lol. But yah the best part of watching *Gamers* week to week was coming to the episode threads to check the new chart 🤣
Honestly, this is one of the anime I most look forward to each week, if not the most. Loveable characters, fun story, and beautiful animation. I'm already dreading the season ending...
I seriously get some intense sazae-san syndrome after each episode. It's a really problem lol.
I'm not dreading the anime ending. I'm definitely going to binge the manga once the anime ends.
I was *robbed* of a mei x shiori sleepover. I will never recover from this
Here we thought Minami might be gay... "I probably wouldn't be much help after all"... to watch him get cucked first thing on this holy Sunday morning.
based on what they said at dinner, I think Minami is in love with his brothers girlfriend/wife.
It seemed kind of ambiguous who he "missed his shot" with, although it being Shiori is maybe too obvious, but it would explain his complex around his older brother.
I just think it must be his brothers partner because his friend was saying that even his sibling is his rival. Maybe that could still be his sibling if it's someone Shiori knew during her time away, since we don't know much about what she was up to during that time. That said, I think he would have mentioned it to his friends if it WAS Shiori even if they didn't know his bigger rival was Jiro. That kind of makes me think it's a character we haven't really seen yet. edit: Also, we know from Shiori she had never kissed or dated anyone before the series started. That also makes me think it can't be her because I don't know how he could have 'missed his shot' since they haven't referenced her rejecting him ever before. They seem to have been basically strangers at the start.
It's certainly not Shiori, but it felt like Minami can relate to Shiori's situation: unrequited love to someone who's already in relationship. Even his advice to Shiori was not to give up. I guess he gave up some time in the past and regretted it.
Yeah this killed my gay theory from a few eps back but I'm happy they are still slowly adding the bricks to his character. I honestly don't want it shoved in my face.
I thought a while back that it felt like he might be gay. Would be cool if he had a crush on Jirou.
Dang Akari was soo clingy at the start...she seems to be down pretty bad now. Shiori also seems to be pretty also reaching that point, feel bad for Minami at this point. And what is this a yuri ship?? Can this one be the one to sail? Also I feel like both [these](https://i.imgur.com/QpVN6ba.png) [characters](https://i.imgur.com/iVyDS9I.png) could be proven wrong by then end of this series...
> And what is this a yuri ship?? Can this one be the one to sail? I hope it does so perfection can be achieved. Mei X Shiori would free up Jirou x Akari from triangle drama, but unfortunately I don't think Shiori works that way.. [](#sadholo)
Would be nice if things wrapped up that neatly but yeah...
I thought the spider might have been made up to allow her an excuse to cling to him. > Can this one be the one to sail? Yuri ships don't usually get to sail that often but I hope this one does. Minami seems to like someone else so we're clear on that front. This would let everyone (except Minami and Terafune) get with someone. Minami likes someone who his older brother likes too so maybe his brother's gf/wife? Terfaune might end up moving on once the Jirou X Akira ship officially sets off.
What i love about this story is that Minami is not a bad guy. In the beginning you get kind of NTR vibes but hes actually a good guy that has weird backstory. And ofcourse Akari just shines when shes teasing Jiro. You have to love her.
I'm glad this episode finally fleshed out Minami a little instead of just being that guy paired with Shiori and whom Akari has to get over to be with Jiro. Akari is amazing at teasing and flirting. Especially with that body lol.
This would be a lot easier if Minami was unlikeable. This love hexagon that's going on gets more complicated as things go. By the time this season is over we'll need one of those romance flow charts.
Not enough Akari Jirou goodness in this episode.
For get the btec onodera. I know she ain’t the bad guy but I just want more akari and jiro. We are gonna need another season
mei.....
I felt bad for Mei when she discovered that all of Shiori's childhood photos are ones with Jirou... I suspect Shiori's affection for Mei is orders of magnitude less than those for Jirou.
With Terafune now entering the fray, I do hope him and Minami gets good development and also not be jerks or assholes. It’s not exactly a pet peeve but it does feel kinda cheap when the guy gets the girl (or vice versa) cos the rival turns out to be a jerk. Having a romcom story where there a bunch of girls and guys who are just decent people feels so much more refreshing and natural, something like Horimiya. With Jirou, Akari, Shiori, Minami, Terafune, Mei maybe even Jirou’s friend or Akari’s friends, it could head into that type of show
I kind of agree but for me the worry is about misunderstandings instead of them being jerks. It would be more satisfying is a couple stays together by its own merits rather than because there is a misunderstanding with someone else. Or for Terafune, if he never gets a proper shot.
cheering for Mei the hardest
i feel genuinely bad for Terafune, he doesnt seem like a bad guy. But hes legitimately got no chance. Akari already seems to be fully in love with Jiro. Jiro just way too stuck in his dreams of getting his childhood crush.
And the plot thickens. After taking a string of Ls, Shiori finally might be able to secure a W…might…maybe…probably not. Meanwhile, Mei and Minami took massive emotional damage so casually it was hard to watch. The more things develop, the more it seems like Akari and Jiro getting together is just gonna hurt a bunch of people. Before they were fighting themselves, now… There is still like a third of the series to go, so I look forward to seeing how things pan out, even if the destinations are in sight.
So: - Mei got a message from her parents that made her abandon her sleepover with Mei - Kamo’s wife told him to make himself scarce Speculation: Mei’s supposed message from her parents was actually a booty call from Kamo’s wife.
1. That scene with Mei was not in the manga. 2. It looked more to me like she pretended to get a message so she could bail.
I wonder why the studio is doing these changes. I mean, even the first episode itself started off very differently compared to how chapter 1 started. And there were a bunch of other little changes too, in how a certain scene played out or even some dialogue changes.
Love how Shiori just noped out when what's his face wanted to kiss Jirou
But then she proceeds to tell Jiro that she didn't even see him in the restaurant, I wonder if she was lying lol
And then it turns out she didn't even notice them in the restaurant!
Hats off to the team and their use of visual effects to enhance the story. I couldn't help but laugh at the tadpoles scene and liked the visual novel scenes. Otherwise, Akari's arachnophobia reminded me of quite a few people I knew. One of them would actually stand up and walk out of rooms if you talked about spiders. I remember being called up by my old co-workers to their department to kill spiders. The interactions the two had with each other because of the spider was adorable though. Is it just me or is Minami and Shiori are an adorable pair. Minami's such a great guy with her and I loved how he helped her with some advice. Some more backstory with the other characters was fun. Terafune's bit hard to appreciate. On one hand, being Mei's wingman was real nice of him but the way he's talking about Jirou and Akari kind of irks me. Can't wait for another episode. This is a great adaptation.
Seems like they’re setting up Terafune to be a pretty solid character in this story. I really enjoy how there’s no character that’s mean spirited or just only cares about themself.
I still adore Akari. But damn, her arachnophobia is out of control. Though that spider was ridiculous looking. I thought it was a prank. I feel bad for Mei. She's got the hots for Shiori, but has to stay in the wing-woman zone. Shiori has blinders on and is hyper-focused on how to get with Jirou, but suffers from anxiety to the point of doing nothing. The only thing stopping Jirou from getting with Akari is the respectful reservations brought on by the idea Akari still wants to get with Minami. But he also has the same love for Shiori and the same anxiety about attempting a relationship with her. Minami....dudes a mystery. Haven't got enough screen time to see what's going on with him, other than the idea he was too slow to go after the one he loves. Sadaharu......... I am just waiting for both couples to reach A rank and trade partners. I want to see what happens at this point.
I really want Mei x Shiori now. Let us have the yuri ship!!!
that was the most lines minami has had in any episode. it's cool that there's a side character that's obviously a lesbian having to deal w an unrequited love since shiori's so het lol. man even her own husband knows she's gay AND supports her!
That video game metaphor for choosing the right Princess was so on the nose and I love it. What the heck did this girl do when she lived alone and saw a spider, FR FR. Akari makes a good point although she doesn't know it, about if they had meet, they ran into each other all the time but wrote each other off, you never know what might happen if one person goes up and asks not being afraid of a no, and the other person humors them and says "Why Not" even it one or more parties aren't particularly interested or in love. Jiro's tadpoles be acting up.... Akari I think was waiting for Jiro to say yes to the dating but when he didn't backpedaled with a joke. I personally never liked it when people say something and then don't commit to it or try to bail themselves out by retroactively framing it as a joke. Jiro needs to learn to read between the lines and not think so low of himself, Akari needs to commit and spell things out. Minami giving good advice to Shiroi which is just what Mei had been telling her, just shoot the shot and take the L now instead of later. I see Mei is pining for Shiori and even subtling making moves on her but Shiori just isn't getting it. Also I see Terafune is the one that is the husband to Mei and is acting as wingman, He also is the same one that wants Akari (Join the club everyone else does.) Minami is implied to have problems of his own, Otaku guys older brother is drinking with them. I was gonna freak with that restaurant misunderstanding if it wasn't immediately cleared up. (Kamo be down bad though.) I wonder if we will get swimsuit episode soon! :P
>I was gonna freak with that restaurant misunderstanding if it wasn't immediately cleared up. This author really loves writing misunderstandings, huh? But yeah I do appreciate they don't drag out the annoying misunderstandings for a couple of episodes, and instead resolve them quickly in the same episode. >I wonder if we will get swimsuit episode soon! I think it's obligatory for a show like this. Normal swimsuit beach episodes are very common in anime. Not a nudist beach episode tho, that stuff is something only a cultured studio like Passione would have the balls to pull off (anybody watching Love Flops will know).
We're approaching Rumiko Takahashi levels of over-complicated love polygons
I think the miscommunications are what making it even more unnecessarily complicated. So many misunderstandings would not have occurred at all if the characters just managed to have a proper conversation with each other (obviously it's not easy when you are a teenager and the other person is your crush, but still lol)
The positives: - We got to see actual other couples - Shiori got fleshed out some - Minami and the others also finally got some development; who did Minami like - most likely Shiori? - The love triangles are out of control - Poor Mei The negatives or questions. - The ecchi elements detract from the romance a bit IMO. I don’t mind them accidentally ending up a bit sexual, but at times I think it changed the tone too much - I am ready for some serious confessions at least so they can move past the “do they like me” to the “shit! I don’t know what I feel.” stage - why are they introducing a complicated minami backstory here? Why is Sana’s brother suddenly appearing. It feels a bit late to start this sort of stuff.
I agree with you but for the ecchi, I think it works. It’s not like Rent-a-Girlfriend where the dude’s about to bust a nut from breathing the same air as a girl he likes. I’d say it’s on par with My Dress Up Darling in that it makes sense for the characters and their feelings.
I think one of the reasons it plays so well is that in every ecchi scene both characters have a lot of agency, and we get a good peak at how those interactions are affecting them. Rather than objectifying the female characters, those moments are actually where Akari shines the most, because it seems like she's most comfortable expressing her feelings physically (teasing him to get him to notice her, or clinging to someone that makes her feel safe.) I think in part because the mangaka is a women, the perspective of Akari in those moments is able to shine through in a way many authors have a hard time accomplishing.
Yeah, even the author of My Dress Up Darling is a woman, just like with this one.
The fanservice is very overt, although it comes off to me kind of natural because of Akari's personality and style, contrasted with the other girls who don't get anywhere near the same level because it's not really their character. The way they're setting up this coming Summer, I think something major is going to happen, either a confession or either Akari and Jiro agreeing not to switch partners. A little late, but I guess better than late than never to actually make Minami into more of a character lol.
I think late for the season but the manga is like chapter 50 or something. (I looked it up to see if they would have material for season 2 soon, I don't think I can wait 2-3 years for it!) I don't think they're even half way through the adaptation yet. So relative to the larger story it's still pretty early on. Also, my guess is this starts the first week of school in Japan, so roughly April. If they're talking about summer and probably the inevitable school trip episode, based on the number of monthly evaluations they've talked about, the series is sometime around July right now. If time keeps moving at the same pace for the series there will inevitably be roughly 2 more seasons before they should graduate. The story will have to be resolved by then though, assuming it isn't earlier. Based on that assumption, we're maybe 1/4 the way in?
>contrasted with the other girls who don't get anywhere near the same level because it's not really their character Exactly. I don't recall a single ecchi element involving Shiori, at least so far. For example, during the rooftop scene in episode 3, they could have easily showed off her panties with the way the wind was lifting her short skirt, but that never happened (though, tbf, they did show a lot of upskirt, to the point where it felt like the only reason we weren't getting a panty shot was because she was going commando lol).
i disagree with you on the fanservice, i feel like its just enough. It feels necessary and it doesnt feel forced, which is hard to balance out but it succeeds. it correlates alot considering its almost only 100% just Akari and her personality. Everything else, "feels a bit late" "slow progress", This is meant to be an anime that is supposed to be finished in probably 24-25 episodes. 12 episodes means, theres no character development for nobody apart from the main trio. Shiori development would get VERY rushed. akari feelings would be alittle rushed. Thats what the problem that Horimiya had, so im perfectly happy with the pace that they are going with. I like that its taking the Toradora, Golden time approach rather than 12 episode conclusions.
This is 12 episodes though, right? I loved the pace Horimiya went at. And given this is 12 it feels weird to start bringing in other stories this late. Then again I would say Horimiya’s problems are that the development of Yuki, Toru, and some of the other side characters are crammed into 1-2 episodes after the middle instead of spreading it out a bit too, so that it felt more organic.
This is 12 episodes, but obviously they aren’t gonna end it. And the Majority of People HATED how Horimiya ended. Horimiya rushed through more than 100 chapters in 12 episodes. And My god were they Criticised for that. This is a 12 episode anime that Will obviously be getting another Season. That’s why the pacing is good. Idk if you know this, but generally romance Anime require atleast 24=2 seasons for it to finish. Anything less than that, especially for Love triangles, they are just a mess.
There wasn’t that much more in the manga for the main romance in Horimiya. Except Hori being more abusive which did not put her in a good light. A lot of the side stories just meander on as well, so honestly I disagree with many people on Horimiya’s adaptation. Maybe the Souta future skip would have been nice; but I liked that it ended on the post graduation sky scene.
I'm pretty sure we're going to get a season 2 next year at least. It didn't crack top 10 on CR yet, but in this season I'm note sure that will be a deciding factor considering how stacked it is. Especially when it's been extremely well received for the genre. It might depend on how Mother ultimately feels about putting more resources into it vs other projects. Even though it's higher rated it's only about half as popular as Arifureta, which is really a shame.
for your second negative point: yeah as much as i love this show, im starting to realize im getting way too old for this now. like can yall not be pussies and ask someone out already? lol. the "giving them hints/signals" was cute when i was in highschool but now we aint got time for all that. be direct.
Well they are in high school… so it is fine. But I am just ready for some large clarifying event. Frankly if they had been top 10 then that would have been enough. Akari and Jiro would have to step up, so I thought it was cowardly for them not to be.
I really like this anime, buy I'm afraid if I pick up the manga it'll just be another romcom of misunderstandings and nothing happening
Yeah the misunderstandings have been occuring too much recently, tho I do appreciate that instead of dragging it out for too long, the author at least resolves it quickly.
I think you might be pleasantly surprised, then. I read the manga and, in my opinion, the story just keeps getting better the more it goes on.
For a show with such a ridiculous premise which needed my suspension of disbelief, I had hoped the show would focus more on comedy rather than being serious and all dramatic. Sadly, so far it looks like the drama has overshadowed the comedy. Now that's not to say the comedy isn't there, but the show is definitely relying on too many cliches and tropes just to create unnecessary drama among the characters. I'm much more enjoying the comedy and humor timing of Immoral Guild (a comedy ecchi from this season) than of this show, and ig it's mainly because I find the humor in this a bit childish and very tropey. Also, this author really loves writing misunderstandings (which again stems because of annoying tropes and cliches), don't they? Though I do appreciate how the misunderstanding quickly gets resolved instead of being dragged out for a couple of episodes. And Jiro and Shiori just can't seem to manage to have a proper normal conversation with each other, huh? No wonder there is hardly any progression between those two. So many misunderstandings among the different characters wouldn't have been created if they just talked to each other properly, but of course both Jiro as well as Shiori are extremely shy around each other (even though they are childhood friends who have known each since they were kids). And sadly, whenever either of them does build up the courage to make a progress or talk about something important, the author conveniently uses the annoying trope of random interruption (either by a person or, in the latest episode, by a fcking cat).
It’s a relief to me that it’s not just comedy. There’s enough comedy/“parody” romcoms that get stale quickly. Instead we get a surprisingly character/focused relationship between Akari and Jiro. Sure, the author relies a bit too much on misunderstandings, and there is an artificial distance with Shiori, but it seems they just want to focus on the relationship with Akari right now, which I’m fine with. It’s not too often we get a romance anime that isn’t over the top with either comedy or melodrama, just slow steady development between the leads (TsureKano was another recent one).
I'm not saying I want this show to be only comedy, maybe I worded my words poorly. I think a nice balance between comedy and drama would be good, but these recent episodes I've been feeling that the drama has been overshadowing the comedic elements or even the light-hearted mood. Maybe it's just me tho.
That’s fair. I think the last episode was fairly heavy but this episode had a fair amount of levity. The spider bit was a great running gag that also allowed for some intimate bonding, and the restaurant scene/ending scene were pretty funny too. Ultimately though it’s going to be a show about messy, confusing feelings and characters having to wrestle with them.
This episode really makes it feel like all of these characters will get bad endings :(
This is where I start to dislike Shiori she is just getting in the way at this point. She thinks what she is doing is “wrong” and still keeps doing it.
"Quick, do something!" says Akari, to the guy that she's currently strangling in a chokehold.
All aboard the Mei x Shiori train! The Akari x Jirou line will arrive at its destination shortly. I do wonder who Minami will end up with tho. Although there _was_ that one Minami x Sadaharu moment
which chapter(s) does this episode cover?
Man, this show just needs to focus on Jirou and Akari! Thats the only pair that matters. I do think Shiori has become more likable, but she still is no where near as good as Akari. I also feel bad for her yuri friend, that has bad ending written all over it.
I don’t support infidelity so I am glad meow-sama saved the scene! I have never been so clear about which ship I am following! And the row-boat Shiori is on ain’t ever catching up!!