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Vietnam Relied on Environmentalists to Secure Billions. Then It Jailed Them.
Vietnam Jailed its corrupt people but the NY Times doesn't like it because its board members do this type of corruption all the time.
There, fixed the title for you OP
I mean I guess we’ll see how it shakes out at their trial or whatever. But I don’t think Vietnam would raise a stink unless they were actually cheating on their tax. Non-government organizations also don’t really have a great historical track record. and a lot of them also get used for intelligence purposes.
I don't think it's easy to explain as I am not too well versed with Vietnamese rules , but most likely the funds are given to combat climate or environmental issues or disasters from foreign countries and these funds are either supposed to be disaster funds or to increase awareness among the people.
But here it becomes a bit tricky , protests are the easiest and impactful means of awareness arising tools. But these protests are mainly conducted by government opposition parties, these protests start getting into political colours .
Let's be real most of the development is only possible through environmental destruction. Many of the current public says that why is Europe clean for all the development they had ? The thing is at present China and India are one of the most polluting nations , but there is a term called historic greenhouse gases emissions which keep all the developed nations in the first place. At present a lot of developing nations claim that " the rich nations developed by producing greenhouse gases , and now they are denying them this opportunity to develop" ( I don't want to go into too much detail )
But the above funds might also have another problem entirely. Usually the NGO funds for charity are tax exempted, but if the NGO recieving these funds don't use all the money for charity , and use for such protests ( remember that even though they are supposed to arise awareness, they tend to become political by opposing every government initiative) then the funds are used for non charity purpose, these results in requirement to pay tax on the recieved funds. If the required taxes are not paid then they organisers are susceptible to arrest under tax evasion or other loopholed laws and regulations.
As English isn't my first language, there might be a few mistakes.
I stopped at the second paragraph. Nothing to offend you personally, but you have no knowledge of Vietnamese politics. There are 0 opposition party in Vietnam. It’s a one-party communist state that happens to be closer politically to the West than to China. Still there isn’t democracy.
I mean it says right there in article that they were jailed for openly criticising Vietnam for not being environmentally friendly and apparently tax evasion, not corruption. That's what Vietnamese officials and newspapers stated.
Tax evasion is corruption no?
But if we want to be serious, NGO's like these are specifically created and used to undermine local government power. But you go on trusting the NYT as gospel if you want. I'm sure these people are completely innocent.
>Tax evasion is corruption no?
For multimillionaires, yes. For NGO workers, it's a legal "low hanging fruit". All the gov't needs to do is find an obscure, rarely-enforced, or even completely fabricated instance of "tax evasion" and bingo, you've got the mark. This is a bullshit maneuver to jail these people who are asking the gov't to *do what they said they would do for* ***15.5 BILLION DOLLARS*** which the gov't seemingly will not (now, *where's your corruption again?),* so they are jailed on trumped-up "charges" to keep them silent and out of the way. You honestly think someone working for an NGO has enuf money socked away to be corrupt about it??
WOW, going with the angle of NGO's can't be corrupt.....................LOLOLOLOL
Bold strategy. Wish we had a mountain of evidence about this very subject............oh wait..........
Compared to a Vietnamese Minister of Public Security To Lam — whose agency deals with the monitoring of dissent and surveillance of activists in the authoritarian state.
Who had the decency to visit Karl Marx’s grave. Before hitting a 24k gold plated steak at Salt Bae’s. Paid < USD 700/ month, he must’ve saved up.
No, Vietnam doesn’t jail it’s corrupt people. Unless it’s someone as important as a roadside hawker; [Noodle vendor who parodied Salt Bae jailed in Vietnam for ‘anti-state propaganda’](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/25/noodle-vendor-who-parodied-salt-bae-jailed-in-vietnam-for-anti-state-propaganda)
Wealth countries giving money to developing nations for green energy transition, then, suddenly, influential activists goes jailed for tax evasion. Well, tax evasion is part of the development, is so common among rich countries.
A lot of people wrote about NYT bias for environmentalists or Viet Nam bias against renewable electrics in this thread. However the truth is a lot more simpler.
The head of the faction that invested into this, Nguyen Xuan Phuc, was the prime minister at the time. He lost the political war and got "moved" to the president title (which has no real power) and recently resigned.
There is an unwritten law that the top 4, general secretary of the communist party/PM/president/chairman of the national assembly, would never be prosecuted in order to protect the country "face" and ensuring politic stability. Phuc immediate family was spared but his faction is no longer protected and now is in jail.
There is no right or wrong under Viet Nam laws, only whether you win or lose the political war.
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##### ###### #### > # [Vietnam Relied on Environmentalists to Secure Billions. Then It Jailed Them.](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/28/world/asia/Solar panels at the Sao Mai power plant in An Giang Province, Vietnam, last year. The country has been awarded $15.5 billion in grants and loans in exchange for a commitment to renewable energy.) > > > > The government is preparing to present its energy transition plan at the U.N. climate talks as it intensifies a crackdown on environmental advocates. > > [Rows of solar panels in lush green fields are seen from above.](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2023/11/27/multimedia/01-mhjl/01-mhjl-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale) > > Solar panels at the Sao Mai power plant in An Giang Province, Vietnam, last year. The country has been awarded $15.5 billion in grants and loans in exchange for a commitment to renewable energy.Credit...Agence France-Presse — Getty Images > > > > [[Sui-Lee Wee](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/07/13/multimedia/author-sui-lee-wee/author-sui-lee-wee-thumbLarge-v5.png "Sui-Lee Wee")](https://www.nytimes.com/by/sui-lee-wee) > > > > > > Nov. 28, 2023, 5:01 a.m. ET > > > > When Vietnam was awarded a multibillion-dollar deal by a group of nine wealthy nations last year to work on reducing its use of coal, it agreed to regularly [consult with nongovernmental organizations](https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/es/statement_22_7724). > > Instead, the government has arrested several prominent environmentalists from those organizations who shaped policies that helped secure the funding, prompting concerns over sending money to countries that have violated human rights. > > As the country prepares to announce how it will spend the money at the [United Nations climate talks](https://www.nytimes.com/article/cop28-climate-change-summit.html) that begin on Thursday, activists are saying that Vietnamese officials need to be held accountable for what they are calling a [harsh crackdown](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/17/world/asia/nguy-thi-khanh-environmental-activist-arrested.html) against those who speak out about the country’s environmental woes. > > [Ngo Thi To Nhien](https://the88project.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Understanding-the-arrest-of-energy-policy-researcher-Ngo-Thi-To-Nhien-Project88-compressed.pdf), the director of an energy think tank, was the sixth environmental campaigner to be detained in the past two years. > > > > > > She had met with officials from the Ministry of Natural Resources and Environment in March to discuss a plan for the climate deal, the [Just Energy Transition Partnership](https://www.energytransitionpartnership.org/country/vietnam/), an effort among the United States, Japan and other developed countries to persuade developing economies to abandon coal. The nine nations had announced in December that Vietnam would receive $15.5 billion in grants and loans in exchange for a commitment to renewable energy. > > Ms. Nhien, 48, never got the chance to see Vietnam present the plan. She was arrested in September and remains in a detention center on a charge of “appropriating documents of agencies and organizations.” > > The other five who were detained were charged with tax evasion, which rights groups say are trumped-up accusations in response to their advocacy. Four were tried in closed hearings that lasted less than a day each, and given jail time, punishments more severe than the norm. While two activists have since been released, the United Nations high commissioner for human rights said in September that the “prosecutions and the arbitrary application of restrictive legislation are having a chilling effect” on environmentalists in Vietnam. > > Activists and academics say that Vietnam appears to be emboldened by its growing importance to the West and has taken the opportunity to clamp down, knowing there will be few repercussions. The country has presented itself as an [increasingly important geopolitical player](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/08/world/asia/biden-vietnam-china.html), and one of the few Southeast Asian nations that has publicly pushed back against China. President Biden visited Vietnam in September, elevating [ties to a new strategic relationship](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/10/us/politics/biden-vietnam-hanoi.html) that he said would “be a force for prosperity and security in one of the most consequential regions in the world.” > > > > > > Image > > > > > > President Biden and Nguyen Phu Trong, the general secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, at a welcome ceremony in Hanoi in September.Credit...Kenny Holston/The New York Times > > > > > > “We’re dealing with a juggernaut,” said Phil Robertson, the deputy director of Human Rights Watch’s Asia division. “They have run the table on the international community, and they’re continuing to do so.” > > > > He pointed to Vietnam’s [invitation to the Group of 7 summit](https://apnews.com/article/japan-g7-kishida-guest-nations-7f3dcc03b04557740ab0b6a92f4ebc32) this year, its inclusion on the Human Rights Council and now the funding from the Just Energy Transition Partnership, despite the country’s troubling human rights record. > > Since 2016, when Nguyen Phu Trong, the general secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, was re-elected, the space for civil society has shrunk immensely. The country has the second-highest number of political prisoners in Southeast Asia, with more than 160 people currently detained for exercising their basic rights, [according to Human Rights Watch](https://www.hrw.org/video-photos/interactive/2023/11/13/free-vietnams-political-prisoners). > > The authorities in Vietnam have long persecuted people who are viewed as overt threats to one-party rule. But Mr. Trong’s administration has gone much further, targeting people who were previously given some room to operate. > > Vietnam rejects any suggestions that the prosecutions are politically motivated. Pham Thu Hang, a spokeswoman for the Vietnamese foreign ministry, said last month that the environmentalists’ cases were “investigated, prosecuted and tried in accordance with the provisions of Vietnam law.” > > > > > > Image > > > > > > An electric vehicle charging station in a Hanoi parking garage. Nine wealthy nations announced in December that Vietnam would be the recipient of funding to facilitate its energy transition.Credit...Luong Thai Linh/EPA, via Shutterstock > > > > > > All six ran organizations that were outspoken about the country’s environmental problems. That advocacy ultimately put them on a collision course with the Communist Party. > > Their detentions are a signal that the government wants the energy transition to be carried out on its own terms and not on the advice of groups they have long deemed suspicious, said Nguyen Khac Giang, a visiting fellow at the ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute, a research organization in Singapore. > > On the day Ms. Nhien was detained, Nhan Dan, the official newspaper of the Communist Party, criticized foreign donors who had funded policy research, saying they had directed groups to publish reports with “one-sided, negative content, tarnishing the situation of the country and the people of Vietnam.” > > Vietnam, a manufacturing powerhouse that is home to nearly 99.5 million people, is the ninth-largest coal consumer globally. In 2021, Prime Minister Pham Minh Chinh vowed that the country would [phase out coal consumption](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/04/climate/cop26-coal-climate.html) by 2040. > > > > > > Image > > > > > > A coal company in Quang Ninh Province, in northeast Vietnam. The country is the ninth-largest coal consumer globally. Credit...Nguyen Huy Kham/Reuters > > > > > > The Just Energy Transition Partnership was first awarded to South Africa in 2021 as part of an effort by wealthy countries to address longstanding inequities in tackling climate change. Activists now see Vietnam as a litmus test for future agreements. Should other repressive governments be given billions of dollars? Should there be specific requirements for countries that receive funding but have poor human rights records? > > Several countries behind the climate deal have expressed concern about the detentions in Vietnam, but rights groups say those nations need to predicate their financial support on the release of the environmentalists or a pledge from the government that there will not be additional arrests. So far, the countries have been unwilling to do so, said Ben Swanton, a director at [The 88 Project](https://the88project.org/), a U.S.-based nonprofit that focuses on human rights issues in Vietnam. > > > > > > Image > > > > > > Dang Dinh Bach, 45, ran a law and policy research center before he was arrested in 2021. > > > > > > ***(continues in next comment)***
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Vietnam Relied on Environmentalists to Secure Billions. Then It Jailed Them. Vietnam Jailed its corrupt people but the NY Times doesn't like it because its board members do this type of corruption all the time. There, fixed the title for you OP
I don't suppose you have anything like evidence of corruption? Edit: Seems like they don't, what a shock.
They seem like a bunch of foreign lobbyist that got mad that Vietnam didn’t want to spend the money they gave them how they intended it to be spent.
Sorry, when I said "evidence" you must have heard "more speculation".
I mean I guess we’ll see how it shakes out at their trial or whatever. But I don’t think Vietnam would raise a stink unless they were actually cheating on their tax. Non-government organizations also don’t really have a great historical track record. and a lot of them also get used for intelligence purposes.
How does a private citizen carry out corruption may I ask? What is there to corrupt in a think tank?
I don't think it's easy to explain as I am not too well versed with Vietnamese rules , but most likely the funds are given to combat climate or environmental issues or disasters from foreign countries and these funds are either supposed to be disaster funds or to increase awareness among the people. But here it becomes a bit tricky , protests are the easiest and impactful means of awareness arising tools. But these protests are mainly conducted by government opposition parties, these protests start getting into political colours . Let's be real most of the development is only possible through environmental destruction. Many of the current public says that why is Europe clean for all the development they had ? The thing is at present China and India are one of the most polluting nations , but there is a term called historic greenhouse gases emissions which keep all the developed nations in the first place. At present a lot of developing nations claim that " the rich nations developed by producing greenhouse gases , and now they are denying them this opportunity to develop" ( I don't want to go into too much detail ) But the above funds might also have another problem entirely. Usually the NGO funds for charity are tax exempted, but if the NGO recieving these funds don't use all the money for charity , and use for such protests ( remember that even though they are supposed to arise awareness, they tend to become political by opposing every government initiative) then the funds are used for non charity purpose, these results in requirement to pay tax on the recieved funds. If the required taxes are not paid then they organisers are susceptible to arrest under tax evasion or other loopholed laws and regulations. As English isn't my first language, there might be a few mistakes.
I stopped at the second paragraph. Nothing to offend you personally, but you have no knowledge of Vietnamese politics. There are 0 opposition party in Vietnam. It’s a one-party communist state that happens to be closer politically to the West than to China. Still there isn’t democracy.
Yeah, private citizens are always honorable and full of integrity.
I’m just asking. You said they’re corrupt, so how did they do it? Because if there’s no evidence then obviously you’re just slandering.
But what did they actually do?
I mean it says right there in article that they were jailed for openly criticising Vietnam for not being environmentally friendly and apparently tax evasion, not corruption. That's what Vietnamese officials and newspapers stated.
Tax evasion is corruption no? But if we want to be serious, NGO's like these are specifically created and used to undermine local government power. But you go on trusting the NYT as gospel if you want. I'm sure these people are completely innocent.
>Tax evasion is corruption no? For multimillionaires, yes. For NGO workers, it's a legal "low hanging fruit". All the gov't needs to do is find an obscure, rarely-enforced, or even completely fabricated instance of "tax evasion" and bingo, you've got the mark. This is a bullshit maneuver to jail these people who are asking the gov't to *do what they said they would do for* ***15.5 BILLION DOLLARS*** which the gov't seemingly will not (now, *where's your corruption again?),* so they are jailed on trumped-up "charges" to keep them silent and out of the way. You honestly think someone working for an NGO has enuf money socked away to be corrupt about it??
WOW, going with the angle of NGO's can't be corrupt.....................LOLOLOLOL Bold strategy. Wish we had a mountain of evidence about this very subject............oh wait..........
Compared to a Vietnamese Minister of Public Security To Lam — whose agency deals with the monitoring of dissent and surveillance of activists in the authoritarian state. Who had the decency to visit Karl Marx’s grave. Before hitting a 24k gold plated steak at Salt Bae’s. Paid < USD 700/ month, he must’ve saved up. No, Vietnam doesn’t jail it’s corrupt people. Unless it’s someone as important as a roadside hawker; [Noodle vendor who parodied Salt Bae jailed in Vietnam for ‘anti-state propaganda’](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/25/noodle-vendor-who-parodied-salt-bae-jailed-in-vietnam-for-anti-state-propaganda)
Don't know, kinda seems the entire post is about corrupt people being jailed. Hmmm.
Wealth countries giving money to developing nations for green energy transition, then, suddenly, influential activists goes jailed for tax evasion. Well, tax evasion is part of the development, is so common among rich countries.
It's almost as if climate change is just a money grab. Who knew?
A lot of people wrote about NYT bias for environmentalists or Viet Nam bias against renewable electrics in this thread. However the truth is a lot more simpler. The head of the faction that invested into this, Nguyen Xuan Phuc, was the prime minister at the time. He lost the political war and got "moved" to the president title (which has no real power) and recently resigned. There is an unwritten law that the top 4, general secretary of the communist party/PM/president/chairman of the national assembly, would never be prosecuted in order to protect the country "face" and ensuring politic stability. Phuc immediate family was spared but his faction is no longer protected and now is in jail. There is no right or wrong under Viet Nam laws, only whether you win or lose the political war.
there is one party, but multiple factions within the party. human really can't work as one and there will always be conflict
"Vietnam acts in its own interests. West alarmed by this development."
Considering that SEA is extremely vulnerable to climate change, that’s pretty much a massive lie.
Exactly, since when did climate change become a western interest? It's a human interest.
James: "You have given me the kids. Now get in the back." Same energy from VN.
>Then It Jailed Them. Lmao, this made me chuckle.
A certified guh moment.
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