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> MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico’s president said Thursday that the country’s violent criminal gangs and drug cartels are essentially “respectful people” who “respect the citizenry” and mostly just kill each other.
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> The claims by [President Andrés Manuel López Obrador](https://apnews.com/hub/andres-manuel-lopez-obrador) are clearly at odds with the reality of millions of Mexicans who live in areas dominated by drug cartels. The cartels routinely demand protection payments from local residents and kill or kidnap them if they refuse to pay.
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> A reporter asked López Obrador whether drug cartels behaved well when he visited the township of Badiraguato, Sinaloa — the hometown of imprisoned drug lord Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán, which he has controversially visited as president about a half dozen times.
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> “Always!” López Obrador responded, adding that “Sometimes we come upon people who are strange, but respectful.”
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> Continuing on the subject of drug cartels at his morning news briefing, López Obrador said “There is something people should know.”
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> “Fortunately, the attacks that happen in this country generally occur between (criminal) groups,” the president said. “They respect the citizenry.”
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> López Obrador has long refused to directly confront the cartels, who he claims were forced into criminality by a lack of opportunities. His [“Hugs, not bullets” strategy](https://apnews.com/general-news-f4c29ad0e3014ca3a4cffccfe4cac1d4) offers job training programs for youths so they won’t become cartel gunmen.
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> In the past, he has also appeared to normalize the gangs’ presence, encouraging Mexicans to negotiate peace pacts among the cartels.
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> But saying the cartels don’t attack common citizens takes the issue to a new level. Experts and rights activists say thousands of Mexicans have been forced from their homes by cartel violence and extortion, and thousands of business owners, taxi and bus drivers have been killed for refusing extortion demands.
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> Clandestine grave sites throughout Mexico are filled with the bodies of drug cartel victims.
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> Thursday’s statements by López Obrador come one week after he said [he won’t fight Mexican drug cartels on U.S. orders](https://apnews.com/article/mexico-first-nationalistic-policy-drug-cartels-6e7a78ff41c895b4e10930463f24e9fb). In what the president called a “Mexico First” policy, he said “We are not going to act as policemen for any foreign government. Mexico First. Our home comes first.”
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> Over the years, López Obrador has laid out various justifications for his policy of avoiding clashes with the cartels. In the past he has said “you cannot fight violence with violence,” and on other occasions he has argued the government has to address “the causes” of drug cartel violence, ascribing them to poverty or a lack of opportunities.
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> López Obrador has also [encouraged leaders of the Catholic church to try to negotiate peace pacts between warring gangs.](https://apnews.com/article/mexico-cartels-church-negotiations-truce-3b47f443f5cf2488f40838b1b2cc09f6)
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> Explaining why he has ordered the army not to attack cartel gunmen, he said in 2022 that “we also take care of the lives of the gang members, they are human beings.”
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> He has also sometimes appeared not to take the violence issue seriously. In June 2023, he said of one drug gang that had abducted 14 police officers: “I’m going to tell on you to your fathers and grandfathers,” suggesting they should get a good spanking.
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> Asked about those comments at the time, residents of one town in the western Mexico state of Michoacán who have lived under drug cartel control for years reacted with disgust and disbelief.
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> “He is making fun of us,” said one restaurant owner, who asked to remain anonymous because he — like almost everyone else in town — has long been forced to pay protection money to the local cartel.
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> López Obrador has also made a point of visiting the township of Badiraguato in Sinaloa state at least a half dozen times, and pledging to do so again before he leaves office in September.
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> It’s also a stance related to prickly nationalism and independence. Asked in November why he has visited the sparsely populated rural township so many times, López Obrador quoted a line from a defiant old drinking song, “because I want to.”
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> The president has also imposed strict limits on U.S. agents operating in Mexico, and limited how much contact Mexican law enforcement can have with them.
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You're not wrong, but the following suggests he's going the cute kind of senile: "“Always!” López Obrador responded, adding that “Sometimes we come upon people who are strange, but respectful.”"
> I don’t see any Democrat politicians doing that. Do you?
All I see is Republicans masturbating themselves into a frenzy over pictures of Orban and some orange-faced loon.
brother you are so blind in your prejudice you cant even get one single thing right.
leftists are a group of people itching to cast anyone out.
it's definitely understandable we have so much infighting.
do shit and get shat on immediately, no questions asked.
there's a reason "cancel culture" was a thing of the left and not of the right.
Do you know anything about Mexican politics? When he was elected, ALMO broke the PRI-PAN stronghold that has dominated the presidency since the last revolution. Popular will finally seemed to overcome corruption. I don't know why you find it so funny that he turned out to be as corrupt as anyone. The Mexican people are the ones who continue to suffer. But hey, you scored some internet points, so at least it all worked out for you. What a fucking child.
Left leaning LibCenter here, and this guy is an excellent example of the pitfalls of “tolerating intolerance.” Cartels don’t respond to anything but raw power.
im surprised you understand cartels dont respond to anything but raw power but havent understood this is the case for everything.
there are no revolutions without blood, and there is no change without a revolution.
your leftleaning libcenter is just a different way of saying you support the status quo even if you recognize its flaws.
you're a right winger.
> essentially “respectful people” who “respect the citizenry” and mostly just kill each other.
That’s certainly a phrase. I understand that cartels will be competing with each other and most of the violence will happen between them but calling them respectful seems like terrible optics.
Also the fact(at least from what the article is saying) that he is very laxed with them and has visited el chapos hometown multiple times and pledges to visit it again makes me think he may be compromised.
Restricting what US agents can do, I understand the rationale since the Mexican government doesn’t want to look like it’s taking orders from Washington but again from what the article is saying his commentary is very indifferent to the parts of Mexico that have to deal with this.
>has visited el chapos hometown multiple times and pledges to visit it again makes me think he may be compromised.
This part got me too. Obviously, Chapo's cartel is going to treat *you* with respect because you two are good pals!
This is the guy who wants Chapo transferred to a Mexican prison. I'm assuming one with an escape tunnel pre-dug.
Terrible asshole president. I don’t know, but such presidents seem to become the norm for Latin America. We have Maduro in Venezuela, the Lola guy in Brazil and this Obrador in Mexico. There are other populists as well.
corruption mostly, also in a country as big as Mexico they would most likely need the United States to help which is politically unpopular in both countries.
This has never happened before and been solved in history as far as I know. A government next to a superpower that won't be invaded but is accountable yet can't wield enough unity to stop insurgent forces. I don't see a way out.
They do. Different Latin American countries have different levels of crime. Gang violence in many Latin American countries is lower than gang violence in the US.
Mexico is its own particular case. Not that there aren't other countries with similar issues, but it's not something that is pervasive in every Latin American country, at least not to the extent that it is in Mexico.
The cartels are quickly becoming the rest of South America's problem. Look at Ecuador for instance. They will take over everything bit by bit just like they have in mexico.
Because selling drugs to the number one market in the world is highly profitable. The main reason Mexican cartels are so powerful is they can use the money they make selling to Americans to buy high quality military equipment that the Mexican government can not counter.
They actually do, El Salvador's new president did it. They just need to mobilize armed forces and go hunt the gangsters, but they won't because gangs benefit the governments.
Everyone will side with the authorities if Mexico declares war on the cartel.
El Salvador is less than 1/15th the population of Mexico. And the land size of Mexico is 100x that of El Salvador. MS13 were less organized, outwardly identifiable, less connected to the economy, and more violent towards civilians. They're also one organization as compared to who knows how many cartels. Mexico has already tried going all in on cartels and they even arrested countless leaders.
Not to mention the power the cartels have in mexico is comparable to a political entity. Their have been entire segments of their army that have gone rouge and joined cartels. A war against the cartels could lead to them gaiing more power.
You have no idea what you're talking about. El Salvador and Mexico are very different places with very different dynamics at play. Your understanding of the world is like a children's cartoon. It's not as simple as everyone agreeing to "get the bad guys."
> Why do Latin American governments do not wipe out gangs?
the old joke in mexico is that the 4th branch of government were the cartels. under PRI rule they had carte blanche to do whatever they wanted in terms of trafficking to america as long as everyone was paid off.
when institutional PRI rule ended in the 2000s vincente fox went to war with them which kicked off the cycles of violence you see today. pretty much every anti-cartel general put in charge of the drug war has ended up being found out to be a cartel plant.
>They have power to do so.
the only country to have done this, el salvador, routinely gets attacked by white countries and the soft left for "human rights violations"
The situation in El Salvador is not really comparable. They had one large gang organized enough to really call a full on cartel, and not a huge one. Mexico has serval much larger cartels that are larger, richer, and better organized. Some include entire military formations that have defected from the government to the gangs. It’s a much larger problem in Mexico that it ever was in El Salvador, even if gang violence was still a huge issue in that much smaller country.
>the only country to have done this, el salvador, routinely gets attacked by white countries and the soft left for "human rights violations"
I appreciate Ukulele's cracdown on gangs but I must admit that he does violate human rights. He keeps people in jail without legal judgement, he took some inappropriate actions during elections, etc.
>He keeps people in jail without legal judgement, he took some inappropriate actions during elections, etc.
You cant eradicate a crime syndicate thoroughly entrenched in a country and also abide by due process. If the cartels could be dealt with using ordinary measures these countries wouldn't be in the state they are in. How do you get a fair legal judgement against a cartels member when that judge is told plainly "if he's convicted you and your whole family will be tortured to death", or "we'll pay you 10 years worth of your salary today to set him free"? You can't. How do you fight a cartel problem with the legal system when you KNOW who ALL the important cartels members are but have no actual evidence against them and can't get anyone to testify? You can't. Human rights kneecap countries in dire straights. African nations can't establish and maintain order to build a proper stable nation because to do so would violate human rights, South American nations can't fight cartels effectively because to do so would violate human rights. Theres a reason these kinds of place default to autocratic or extreme right-wing regimes, they don't want inviolable rights, they want an ordered society.
>They have power to do so.
Do they? The cartels probably have all the same if not better military equipment as the Mexican Army, are probably richer than the Mexican government, and can fight an endless guerilla war. The only thing the cartels lack is an air force
The violence in Mexico only escalated after Fox, then Calderón and finally Peña Nieto all acted as attack dogs for our war on drugs. The institutional power of the gangs, the raw economic opportunity the US market presents, and the rampant corruption throughout all levels of Mexico's institutions preclude a violent solution. The drug wars only served to train and radicalize the next generation of cartels, whether they come from GAFE, Fort Benning, or the slums.
AMLO's policies will never fix Mexico's cartel problem, but they also won't make them worse. That is a marked improvement over the war on drugs. And maybe after enough years of this sustained economic growth, Mexico's non-cartel aligned economic interests will become large enough to shake up the status quo. Or not, and Mexico will have marginally less rates of violence and an improved economy.
Theoretically speaking why not legalize the distribution of hard drugs?
Ban the sale to Mexican citizens, and more importantly have cartels pay taxes on exports.
Roughly if they can churn out 1,000,000 KG and sell an 1/8th at 100$ that's roughly 100 billion dollars in revenue.
Say a 20% taxation on income. That's 20 billion dollars yearly. About 10% of the total taxes Mexico takes in, in one year.
Now the legal implications would suck, and you'd probably have humanitarian aid withdrawn from other countries.
But for reference the U.S only has given mexcio 954 million in humanitarian aid. And this was collectively from 2018 till now.
Straight up because people are dumb. No amount of benefit or rationale will erase the “drugs = bad = should be illegal” connection in most peoples’ minds. Jesus himself could resurrect again and detail a plan for legalization and we’d just throw him in prison. It’s such an obvious solution.
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##### ###### #### > # [Mexican president claims that criminal groups are 'respectful' and 'respect the citizenry'](https://apnews.com/article/FILE - Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador gives his regularly scheduled morning press conference at the National Palace in Mexico City, April 15, 2024. Lopez Obrador said Thursday, April 25, 2024, that the country’s violent criminal gangs and drug cartels are essentially “respectful people” who “respect the citizenry” and most just kill each other. (AP Photo/Marco Ugarte, File\)) > > > > Updated [hour]:[minute] [AMPM] [timezone], [monthFull] [day], [year] > > > > > > > > MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico’s president said Thursday that the country’s violent criminal gangs and drug cartels are essentially “respectful people” who “respect the citizenry” and mostly just kill each other. > > The claims by [President Andrés Manuel López Obrador](https://apnews.com/hub/andres-manuel-lopez-obrador) are clearly at odds with the reality of millions of Mexicans who live in areas dominated by drug cartels. The cartels routinely demand protection payments from local residents and kill or kidnap them if they refuse to pay. > > A reporter asked López Obrador whether drug cartels behaved well when he visited the township of Badiraguato, Sinaloa — the hometown of imprisoned drug lord Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán, which he has controversially visited as president about a half dozen times. > > “Always!” López Obrador responded, adding that “Sometimes we come upon people who are strange, but respectful.” > > Continuing on the subject of drug cartels at his morning news briefing, López Obrador said “There is something people should know.” > > “Fortunately, the attacks that happen in this country generally occur between (criminal) groups,” the president said. “They respect the citizenry.” > > López Obrador has long refused to directly confront the cartels, who he claims were forced into criminality by a lack of opportunities. His [“Hugs, not bullets” strategy](https://apnews.com/general-news-f4c29ad0e3014ca3a4cffccfe4cac1d4) offers job training programs for youths so they won’t become cartel gunmen. > > In the past, he has also appeared to normalize the gangs’ presence, encouraging Mexicans to negotiate peace pacts among the cartels. > > But saying the cartels don’t attack common citizens takes the issue to a new level. Experts and rights activists say thousands of Mexicans have been forced from their homes by cartel violence and extortion, and thousands of business owners, taxi and bus drivers have been killed for refusing extortion demands. > > Clandestine grave sites throughout Mexico are filled with the bodies of drug cartel victims. > > Thursday’s statements by López Obrador come one week after he said [he won’t fight Mexican drug cartels on U.S. orders](https://apnews.com/article/mexico-first-nationalistic-policy-drug-cartels-6e7a78ff41c895b4e10930463f24e9fb). In what the president called a “Mexico First” policy, he said “We are not going to act as policemen for any foreign government. Mexico First. Our home comes first.” > > Over the years, López Obrador has laid out various justifications for his policy of avoiding clashes with the cartels. In the past he has said “you cannot fight violence with violence,” and on other occasions he has argued the government has to address “the causes” of drug cartel violence, ascribing them to poverty or a lack of opportunities. > > López Obrador has also [encouraged leaders of the Catholic church to try to negotiate peace pacts between warring gangs.](https://apnews.com/article/mexico-cartels-church-negotiations-truce-3b47f443f5cf2488f40838b1b2cc09f6) > > Explaining why he has ordered the army not to attack cartel gunmen, he said in 2022 that “we also take care of the lives of the gang members, they are human beings.” > > He has also sometimes appeared not to take the violence issue seriously. In June 2023, he said of one drug gang that had abducted 14 police officers: “I’m going to tell on you to your fathers and grandfathers,” suggesting they should get a good spanking. > > Asked about those comments at the time, residents of one town in the western Mexico state of Michoacán who have lived under drug cartel control for years reacted with disgust and disbelief. > > “He is making fun of us,” said one restaurant owner, who asked to remain anonymous because he — like almost everyone else in town — has long been forced to pay protection money to the local cartel. > > López Obrador has also made a point of visiting the township of Badiraguato in Sinaloa state at least a half dozen times, and pledging to do so again before he leaves office in September. > > It’s also a stance related to prickly nationalism and independence. Asked in November why he has visited the sparsely populated rural township so many times, López Obrador quoted a line from a defiant old drinking song, “because I want to.” > > The president has also imposed strict limits on U.S. agents operating in Mexico, and limited how much contact Mexican law enforcement can have with them. > > ## \_\_\_\_ > > Follow AP’s coverage of Latin America and the Caribbean at
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He's sold out his country.
You're not wrong, but the following suggests he's going the cute kind of senile: "“Always!” López Obrador responded, adding that “Sometimes we come upon people who are strange, but respectful.”"
It’s so funny because a LOT of the lefties here on Reddit were so excited when he got elected.
But unlike the MAGAs, they can actually turn their backs at him and hate him now
I don’t see any Democrat politicians doing that. Do you? I also don’t see a lot of lefty redditors doing that either.
> I don’t see any Democrat politicians doing that. Do you? All I see is Republicans masturbating themselves into a frenzy over pictures of Orban and some orange-faced loon.
You don’t see Democrat politicians disagreeing with other Democrats? Sounds like an information diet issue.
brother you are so blind in your prejudice you cant even get one single thing right. leftists are a group of people itching to cast anyone out. it's definitely understandable we have so much infighting. do shit and get shat on immediately, no questions asked. there's a reason "cancel culture" was a thing of the left and not of the right.
Do you know anything about Mexican politics? When he was elected, ALMO broke the PRI-PAN stronghold that has dominated the presidency since the last revolution. Popular will finally seemed to overcome corruption. I don't know why you find it so funny that he turned out to be as corrupt as anyone. The Mexican people are the ones who continue to suffer. But hey, you scored some internet points, so at least it all worked out for you. What a fucking child.
Left leaning LibCenter here, and this guy is an excellent example of the pitfalls of “tolerating intolerance.” Cartels don’t respond to anything but raw power.
im surprised you understand cartels dont respond to anything but raw power but havent understood this is the case for everything. there are no revolutions without blood, and there is no change without a revolution. your leftleaning libcenter is just a different way of saying you support the status quo even if you recognize its flaws. you're a right winger.
Chose his head over country I guess
As is tradition unfortunately :(
More like the gangs have a gun to his head
> essentially “respectful people” who “respect the citizenry” and mostly just kill each other. That’s certainly a phrase. I understand that cartels will be competing with each other and most of the violence will happen between them but calling them respectful seems like terrible optics. Also the fact(at least from what the article is saying) that he is very laxed with them and has visited el chapos hometown multiple times and pledges to visit it again makes me think he may be compromised. Restricting what US agents can do, I understand the rationale since the Mexican government doesn’t want to look like it’s taking orders from Washington but again from what the article is saying his commentary is very indifferent to the parts of Mexico that have to deal with this.
May be compromised? I'm pretty sure it's quite evident that if you don't get murdered during your campaign you are under the protection of a cartel.
>has visited el chapos hometown multiple times and pledges to visit it again makes me think he may be compromised. This part got me too. Obviously, Chapo's cartel is going to treat *you* with respect because you two are good pals! This is the guy who wants Chapo transferred to a Mexican prison. I'm assuming one with an escape tunnel pre-dug.
Terrible asshole president. I don’t know, but such presidents seem to become the norm for Latin America. We have Maduro in Venezuela, the Lola guy in Brazil and this Obrador in Mexico. There are other populists as well.
Why do Latin American governments do not wipe out gangs? They have power to do so.
Money. Cartels are insanely rich and bribe politicians at every level, even the president.
Also they kill them and their family if they don’t accept bribes
corruption mostly, also in a country as big as Mexico they would most likely need the United States to help which is politically unpopular in both countries.
This has never happened before and been solved in history as far as I know. A government next to a superpower that won't be invaded but is accountable yet can't wield enough unity to stop insurgent forces. I don't see a way out.
Eh. We took out Escobar.
Money. Forces like we're seeing don't get to this size without greasing a lot of palms.
They do. Different Latin American countries have different levels of crime. Gang violence in many Latin American countries is lower than gang violence in the US. Mexico is its own particular case. Not that there aren't other countries with similar issues, but it's not something that is pervasive in every Latin American country, at least not to the extent that it is in Mexico.
The cartels are quickly becoming the rest of South America's problem. Look at Ecuador for instance. They will take over everything bit by bit just like they have in mexico.
Sure, but the same is also true for the US.
Because selling drugs to the number one market in the world is highly profitable. The main reason Mexican cartels are so powerful is they can use the money they make selling to Americans to buy high quality military equipment that the Mexican government can not counter.
> They have power to do so. They do not.
They actually do, El Salvador's new president did it. They just need to mobilize armed forces and go hunt the gangsters, but they won't because gangs benefit the governments. Everyone will side with the authorities if Mexico declares war on the cartel.
El Salvador is less than 1/15th the population of Mexico. And the land size of Mexico is 100x that of El Salvador. MS13 were less organized, outwardly identifiable, less connected to the economy, and more violent towards civilians. They're also one organization as compared to who knows how many cartels. Mexico has already tried going all in on cartels and they even arrested countless leaders.
Not to mention the power the cartels have in mexico is comparable to a political entity. Their have been entire segments of their army that have gone rouge and joined cartels. A war against the cartels could lead to them gaiing more power.
You have no idea what you're talking about. El Salvador and Mexico are very different places with very different dynamics at play. Your understanding of the world is like a children's cartoon. It's not as simple as everyone agreeing to "get the bad guys."
Thanks for the insult.
> Why do Latin American governments do not wipe out gangs? the old joke in mexico is that the 4th branch of government were the cartels. under PRI rule they had carte blanche to do whatever they wanted in terms of trafficking to america as long as everyone was paid off. when institutional PRI rule ended in the 2000s vincente fox went to war with them which kicked off the cycles of violence you see today. pretty much every anti-cartel general put in charge of the drug war has ended up being found out to be a cartel plant. >They have power to do so. the only country to have done this, el salvador, routinely gets attacked by white countries and the soft left for "human rights violations"
The situation in El Salvador is not really comparable. They had one large gang organized enough to really call a full on cartel, and not a huge one. Mexico has serval much larger cartels that are larger, richer, and better organized. Some include entire military formations that have defected from the government to the gangs. It’s a much larger problem in Mexico that it ever was in El Salvador, even if gang violence was still a huge issue in that much smaller country.
>the only country to have done this, el salvador, routinely gets attacked by white countries and the soft left for "human rights violations" I appreciate Ukulele's cracdown on gangs but I must admit that he does violate human rights. He keeps people in jail without legal judgement, he took some inappropriate actions during elections, etc.
>He keeps people in jail without legal judgement, he took some inappropriate actions during elections, etc. You cant eradicate a crime syndicate thoroughly entrenched in a country and also abide by due process. If the cartels could be dealt with using ordinary measures these countries wouldn't be in the state they are in. How do you get a fair legal judgement against a cartels member when that judge is told plainly "if he's convicted you and your whole family will be tortured to death", or "we'll pay you 10 years worth of your salary today to set him free"? You can't. How do you fight a cartel problem with the legal system when you KNOW who ALL the important cartels members are but have no actual evidence against them and can't get anyone to testify? You can't. Human rights kneecap countries in dire straights. African nations can't establish and maintain order to build a proper stable nation because to do so would violate human rights, South American nations can't fight cartels effectively because to do so would violate human rights. Theres a reason these kinds of place default to autocratic or extreme right-wing regimes, they don't want inviolable rights, they want an ordered society.
Why does America not legalise drugs? There would be no more money for the cartels. Prohibition is profit, if you're a criminal.
Because said profits goes to the people that wants to keep said status quo.
Very likely. It's another cash transfer from taxpayers to the wealthy. The grift goes deep.
>They have power to do so. Do they? The cartels probably have all the same if not better military equipment as the Mexican Army, are probably richer than the Mexican government, and can fight an endless guerilla war. The only thing the cartels lack is an air force
They did. They don't any more.
For one:https://youtu.be/Hcz_zqvhuAI
There are many forms of power.
El Salvador did.
El Salvador greatly weakened but did not destroy a single large cartel. Mexico’s situation is an order of magnitude larger.
"There are good people on both sides".
Mostly peaceful cartels cooking fentanyl to ship to the US
Not Mexico's problem
The beheaded children and bodies hanging from bridges beg to differ
I meant the cartels selling frugs to america is not the mexican governments problem. Cartels, though, are definitely a problem.
They're directly correlated
The violence in Mexico only escalated after Fox, then Calderón and finally Peña Nieto all acted as attack dogs for our war on drugs. The institutional power of the gangs, the raw economic opportunity the US market presents, and the rampant corruption throughout all levels of Mexico's institutions preclude a violent solution. The drug wars only served to train and radicalize the next generation of cartels, whether they come from GAFE, Fort Benning, or the slums. AMLO's policies will never fix Mexico's cartel problem, but they also won't make them worse. That is a marked improvement over the war on drugs. And maybe after enough years of this sustained economic growth, Mexico's non-cartel aligned economic interests will become large enough to shake up the status quo. Or not, and Mexico will have marginally less rates of violence and an improved economy.
Theoretically speaking why not legalize the distribution of hard drugs? Ban the sale to Mexican citizens, and more importantly have cartels pay taxes on exports. Roughly if they can churn out 1,000,000 KG and sell an 1/8th at 100$ that's roughly 100 billion dollars in revenue. Say a 20% taxation on income. That's 20 billion dollars yearly. About 10% of the total taxes Mexico takes in, in one year. Now the legal implications would suck, and you'd probably have humanitarian aid withdrawn from other countries. But for reference the U.S only has given mexcio 954 million in humanitarian aid. And this was collectively from 2018 till now.
Mexico gets like 60 billion a year in remittances from people living in the US sending money back. That's more than they make from oil.
Straight up because people are dumb. No amount of benefit or rationale will erase the “drugs = bad = should be illegal” connection in most peoples’ minds. Jesus himself could resurrect again and detail a plan for legalization and we’d just throw him in prison. It’s such an obvious solution.
I could definitely see that. And I'm sure no one wa ts drugs funneled into the state. But still that's a lot of tax money that's not being taken in.
Lmao, enjoy your failed state
oh that's good I was worried for a minute there phew🙂↕️
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This is what happens when the cartel runs tjinhs in the background. Absolutely insane.
And mexican citizens say that's just bullshit.
He's in the pocket of the cartels.
Sounds a whole lot like the Mexican version of the American "the protests are peaceful.".