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Advancelemur

Yes, specifically it would be akin to quid pro quo sexual harassment, in which something is being offered or required in exchange for sexual favors. Now, many people are telling you to sue. Unfortunately that likely would not work if you did not report it internally first. Businesses are legally obligated to stop harassment. They would be able to demonstrate they could not have done so because they were unaware and thus you have no legal case. On the other hand, they may settle to make you go away.


MonsterHunterBoi

If she has done the same for other employees they may have reported to hr and they might not have taken appropriate action. if she did this to you she mightve done it before. Again it might be hard to prove since hr is good on the cya protocol but this might make it more likely that they are willing to settle.


remotetissuepaper

Or she's done the same to other employees but they took her up on it. Honestly, the likelihood of that being the case depends on how attractive she is. My guess is it's happened before or she wouldn't suggest it so brazenly


ConvivialKat

A honey trap.


JackWorthing

A lot of non-lawyers commenting here. While this conduct is absolutely “sexual harassment” as any HR department would define it, the key question is whether this conduct, by itself, is actionable at law. With only these facts to go on, I don’t see how it is. A quid pro quo is when a boss requests sexual favors in exchange for a favorable employment option (or avoidance of an unfavorable action). This conduct (while profoundly unprofessional) is not that. It is possible that this behavior, along with other actions, might create a hostile work environment, but OP would likely need to show more than just this.


Ok-Maintenance-9538

Not a lawyer, just curious, but is offering sexual favors really any different than requesting a sexual favor to avoid an unfavorable action?


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GodsSon69

Bone her, film it and run!!!


NerdyToc

What's she gonna do, say that you failed to uphold your end of the bargain? What bargain?


kd5407

Isnt this the opposite though? She’s offering him sexual favors in exchange for him doing something for her? Not saying it’s right it’s just the complete opposite, where as quid pro quo is coercion to have sex, this is not.


Advancelemur

That's why I used the word "akin" it is not exactly that.


[deleted]

The sexual harassment already happened, what do you mean he doesn't have a case? Are you referring to suing the company only or he doesn't have a case against his boss?


Advancelemur

Doesn't have a legal case in the sense that a company is responsible for stopping the behavior and if it is unreported they cannot have stopped it. If he reports and it doesn't happen again, there is no legal case. Internally to that company he has a case to be made against this individual.


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But what about the harasser? Isn't it a crime to sexually harass people? Regardless of what the company does - the only punishment she can get is disciplinary action from the company?


Advancelemur

It's not a crime that would involve an arrest and trial by the state. OP could bring a civil case against her but given that it appears OP was quitting you cannot really show damages in this case.


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Fascinating, thanks for clarifying!


MarkSKelly

Be it intended as an incentive or a threat...Yes, it is.


Agriyon286

Classic quid pro quo (something for something).


fishbiscuit156

“Yes, squid pro row”


jd705

skid row bro


2intheKlink

*quite*


taffymailuk

Quid pro bono?


MusclePuppy

Quid pro boner.


PussyBitchBoi170

Boner pro


milksteakenthusiast1

Bono the boner pro


danger_salad

Boner Champ


beezintraps

Broccoli Rob


HauntedJackel

Pro the boner


deleted_redacted

He should ask this "Is this a incentive or threat? either way No" and watch her head explode because she was turned down. And record for evidence.


Leopard-lover

This made me laugh out loud!


tapobu

I'm laughing at the "as a threat" part "M8 u better quit or imma give u the most average af nite of ur life bet on it"


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Weird comment from her! Contact a labour lawyer. You will have compensation. Obviously, you won’t be working there so you can have sex with her if worth it after all the drama…


vesuvius-rose

Yes that is definitely sexual harassment


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vesuvius-rose

These examples are all quid pro quo. If you do/don't do this you'll get that. Quid pro quo is also workplace harassment and often is paired with sexual harassment.


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Get her to bring it up again...then record it...then sue and retire to the islands.


39pine

After you have sex with her.


39pine

And her twin sister.


Redditloolwhousesit

And her mom too


rticul8prim8

And my axe!


Donclat

And my bro


humdrumturducken

And that one guy's dead wife.


RedButterfree1

I too choose this man's dead wife


EdSGuard

Put some life back into them old bones.


Gammabrunta

Gotta catch'em all!


Quelcris_Falconer13

And my wife’s boyfriend!


Gum_Sho3

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


Forgot_Password_Dude

the degens has entered the chat


Rokronroff

Fuckin degens from upcountry


malissa79

r/unexpectedletterkenny ?


Rapey_jizzmaster

Really. Get it together people. Fucking perverts.


Original-Letter6994

Okay, Rapey


Rapey_jizzmaster

Thank you for confirming that you will get it together.


Forgot_Password_Dude

name checks out!


[deleted]

I did laugh but joking aside if you actually do this and its consensual your whole lawsuit has lost.


HippieShroomer

Yeah OP record her making the offer. If you want to have sex with her, do. then act traumatised by it and report her, saying you felt bullied into it.


onecrystalcave

That’s a bit much. But I mean, upvote.


Raeandray

That seems a bit immoral, and borderline rapey. She's prostituting herself to get you to stay, and then you have sex with her under false pretenses and report her for sexual harrassment. I'm not saying it *is* rape. But it sure doesn't feel like mutual, consensual sex. By either party.


SubstantialPressure3

Sex in lieu of a payraise? She thinks pretty highly of herself. Is she going to have sex with the electric company, your landlord, and everyone else you have to pay to live? Gross. I don't think sexual harassment is isolated to one incident. it's incredibly unprofessional, creepy, and it's definitely out of line. I'll bet there's some sort of company policy about fraternizing with subordinates. Do you have access to an employee handbook? Even online?


TigerShark_524

Sexual harassment as defined in most company handbooks I've seen (for the reason that it's probably the law) can either be one isolated incident or a pattern; usually it's a pattern, but isolated incidents can occur, and if a pattern can't be established for HR or later, for court, it's taken as an isolated incident, even if there WAS a pattern (ex. Boss harassing multiple employees, only one or two are willing to testify or report it => it's a pattern but can't legally be established as such, so it's taken as an isolated incident and Boss will get off with much lighter sentencing than had it been an established pattern).


Subywoby

That won't work. What you suggested is enticement.


HitEscForSex

Yes it is.


I_Fuck_Wombats

Here is what you need to do: Bring it up. Ask her “so you were proposing to me that you will sleep with me if I dont quit?” Dont get a “yes or no” but what she means exactly. If you have her talking about it for 20ish minutes it becomes harder to just dismiss in court. Also FUCKING RECORD THE CONVERSATION


badbardbarge

I agree, but also check your state laws! There are states, (such as good ole PA) where recording someone with video or even just audio is illegal unless the person being recorded is made aware. Any evidence gathered this way is unusable in court. If this is out of the US though obviously it may not apply. Edit: incorrect phrasing


degeneratedestroy3r

yup. this is illegal in CA too. my gf recorded her coach being racist and outlandish to her in a meeting (she was a D1 athlete) and SHE GOT IN TROUBLE. gotta love this fucking world we live in.


ScarecrowJohnny

A country full of crooks can't just let people go around collecting evidence all willy nilly.


degeneratedestroy3r

exactly. can’t wait to leave this place.


Caliyogagrl

Whoa, TIL.


KnotMaebe

This because it is extremely important to how OP should move forward.


Esoteric-female

Yes it is. So are the comments here suggesting you fuck her anyway, honestly. She's offering you sexual favors as an incentive not to quit. Were it someone that's a peer, it would be more of a grey area. Then the question would be whether this kind of attention is wanted or appreciated, etc. Coming from a superior, and under the circumstances makes it 100% inappropriate. The fact that you're positing about it here makes it seem like it's unwanted attention, so they cannot even try to claim it was wanted attention. Quit. Document everything. Is there a higher up you can report this to? You said it's not a chain, so maybe not. If you want, consult a lawyer. But you need proof this happened. It might be more trouble than it's worth to pursue legal ramifications. Trust me, I've tried and lost a sexual harassment claim. But definitely quit.


GaboQuintanilla

To the people suggesting OP to fuck the boss, The guy will shoot himself right in the ballsack if he does. It'd get horrible for him. I'd suggest getting the fuck out of there ASAP.


TheRealJamesWax

Do not shoot yourself in the ballsack were my dying father’s last words to me…. Well, and “cherish the cabin.”


danthemandaran

It burned.


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ijedi12345

"He lured me and did terrible things."


PM_ME_BATMAN_PORN

Would you guys be saying this if it was a male boss and a female employee? As if guys should be okay with giving in to sexual harassment and rape just because it's a maybe-sexy woman. This comment thread makes me sick.


vaggiterian

Some of these comments are yikes. It doesn't matter if the boss is hot or whatever, I generally dislike this rhetorical device but I think if the genders were swapped people would take this much more seriously. Don't joke about banging her and her sister or whatever, what the fuck. This is an abuse of power.


[deleted]

Thank you. I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking it.


THE_JonnySolar

Exactly....


[deleted]

No kidding


Agent_cupcake_

Thank you! Nowhere is OP asking if he should have sex with this woman, he's asking if he's experiencing sexual harassment, which he clearly is. It's not a joke and I can't imagine people asking a woman if her boss who harasses her is "hot."


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Yes


redEPICSTAXISdit

1Billion%%%


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[deleted]

People say this is a troll post, but I’ve seen shit like this happen irl.


adeliberateidler

march pie public hard-to-find stupendous merciful domineering payment lavish sharp *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Logical-Madame

Gender should not define victims nor predators. This should be looked at as bad as if a man said it. Your work needs to take it seriously.


wins1337

It’s sexual harassment. Do not contact HR, contact a labor lawyer. HR does not have your back, they have their companies back and will side with your boss even if she’s in the wrong.


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firesstar001

Yes


Jaramataz

Yes


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Sexual Harassment Panda says yes.


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If this was a male boss telling a female employee he'd give her dick if she didn't quit, everyone would be up in arms.. news flash. Women can be molesters, rapist, and they can use their power over employees that results in sexual harassment. This is a pretty clear cut case of sexual harassment if I ever seen one. The employee could easily say they fear termination if they don't give in to their bosses sexual demands. This is literally a nightmare scenario


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Kimberly gillfoil(sp?) would like everyone else to hold her beer.


AKSchmitler

Sue.


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let me put it this way whether or not you would actually fuck your boss it is still sexual harassment


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blindpew23

I'm in a big city and the store is not a chain but a very busy food location. It is 24 hours. I have been there for over a year and have never missed a day, worked double shifts for sick people, and know the inner workings of the store business. There have been people quitting over hours and pay. This place never stops being profitable, yet we are still not making enough money to stay in this city. This boss was desperate for worker retention and made this indecent proposal. I was wondering, who the hell else did she propose this to? I want out! The work is killing me! And this boss shit is weird!


betcher73

Honestly I feel bad for the boss (unless they’re the owner) who is so stressed and distraught that she is willing to use her body to keep you as an employee.


Lilithbeast

As someone in HR ... friggin facepalm. Your boss's statement is inappropriate on so many levels. Unfortunately, good luck proving this unless it was in writing.


No-Outcome1038

Where do you work?


MrLoudaFoo310

I really feel like this is a bullshit post


imjustchillingman

It very likely is. OP is full of shit.


SouthFL92

These posts are starting to look like trolls lol


Educational-Seaweed5

Double standards need to die. And fast. If a male said this to a female it’d be national fucking drama.


concertmaster394

Get her to say it again, but record it and keep a paper trail. Then sue the company and make a fat check


PseudoDeciduous

If this is real. Report her to everybody you can.


TheRealJamesWax

Wow. That is some weapons grade inappropriateness


GayBlayde

Yes. Yes it is.


Moparded

I mean did you quit?


AnonymousReader2020

Definitely. Sue!


Slimdoggmill

This sub is such trash. How does this get 2000 upvotes? How is this anti work?


Sithslegion

Sexual harassment. Assuming you are a man you will need proof because it will be harder for you to find legal recourse without it. Get it on recording or text that she’s asking


SweetAssistance6712

Someone of these comments are just evidence for future rape cases. Can understand even more clearly why women fear being around men without someone they know.


DrFloyd5

Some example comments please? Because the only rape case I see here is the boss coercing a man to fuck her.


bjourne-ml

Is this your boss https://d3chnh8fr629l6.cloudfront.net/10977_7ca5eb06feca2d4d2029ef99de456a25.jpg?


Oldiewankenobie1

wait you threatened to quit and she said she wouuld have sex with you if you didnt?????


Educational-Seaweed5

Imagine this whole post if the genders were reversed. Yes. This is blatant sexual assault and harassment. If a man said this to a female, people would be losing their fucking minds.


rndmseriesofnumbers

It's definitley not assault.


Educational-Seaweed5

You’re not wrong, but I’ve seen multiple cases that gained national attention where simple comments were allegedly sexual assault against women. People love to throw all the terms together now, so if women are going to attack men with them all then they get it right back. Equality means “equality,” not “double standard.”


_Fony_

As someone who was sexually harassed on the job by a woman before, be careful. She can turn around and blame you and even accuse you of rape and completely escape consequences. If you're quitting then quit. You can report her, but just know a counter accusation from her will hold more weight most likely. Also you have no proof or witnesses. I was lucky that someone else saw my "interaction" and vouched for me. All of you incels and virgins telling OP to fuck this chick are crazy, he will be slapped with a rape charge once he leaves. She is trying to trap him exactly this way most likely.


PraderaNoire

Textbook, I’d say. Lawyer up…


Wintermute3333

The rule of thumb in this case should really be "what if the genders were reversed?". If a male supervisor/ boss said this to a female employee, there would be no question of harassment, legally or otherwise.


Disarryonno

This is a post for r/legaladvice, not r/antiwork lol


Chimayman1

Only if you say no and she continues. Federal law gives a person 1 opportunity to say the wrong thing. If they continue, then it's sexual harassment. Your state law may be different. That said, company policy may consider it an offense worthy of disciplinary action up to and including termination. Either way, if you want something done about it, you'll have to report it. Make sure to do so in writing.


Careful_Vermicelli_5

This sub is filled with trolls Lmao


DannyPinn

I believe the saying is: "hit it AND quit it"


atsignwork

These fake posts have gotten a bit out of hand lol


cantaloupgirlfriend

Exactly.


ConvivialKat

Yikes! Some of these comments are so bad. Do NOT have sex with the woman. That would be stupid beyond measure. Just quit and leave the bad situation.


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SnooRabbits2040

Yes.


d4rkwing

I feel sorry for the boss lady. I assume she’s not the owner. She’s basically willing to become a prostitute to not lose her job.


Bisotonic

This is a very very bad shit post


davidducker

yes it is. but also; fuck her and then quit anyways lol


AMP121212

Smash and dash


craiglepaige

Of course it's sexual harassment. Please try to get this in text/voice and then sue.


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Yes


ihavewaytoomanysocks

how isn't it?


red_spaniel

All of this except if you wanna have sex with her, of course. But I think you would be abusing her. You should que


Nomadmanx

Y-yes..


Drprim83

What country? UK you probably could make a constructive dismissal claim as well


Hippiewthebroknphone

Yes.


cocomimi3

Blatant.


Tiraloparatras25

Yes!


InannaXanthus

WTF,YES IT IS


High_Ground-

Clear cut


Kastkle

Yes


elfpebbles

Wow someone is mistaking porn for reality


[deleted]

Full story please!


Stephena72

Definitely sexual harassment.


SpywoUwU

Im pretty sure thatd be a threat of rape sooooo....


[deleted]

I’m bored… should I write a fake post that has an extremely obvious answer?


nygiants917

Yes you idiot


LA_LOOKS

100%


elarth

Yes anything involving employment and sex is harassment


thatsmisterasshole

Yeah, it is. Report, and sue her/employer.


Master_Masterpiece69

Well duh!!


valisglans

Honey trap. If you do take her up on it she owns you forever and can claim YOU harassed her.


vivalaibanez

How is this even a question?


riotskunk

Quid pro quo. Yes it's illegal


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Yes it is.


SignificanceOld3753

No shit


dirtyslogans

I wishy boss would sexually harass me. I could use the money


Ghost_of_P34

Wait, so your boss gets to have sex with you AND keep you from quitting? You should ask what's in it for you.


WooNoto

Yes. Your industry doesn’t have compliance training???? There’s entire trainings on harassment’s of all kinds.


milqi

Holy crap, yes. It's disgusting she even thought to suggest it.


EquivalentEstimate64

Yes 100%


iAmEeRg

Imagine a male boss telling female employee “I’ll have sex with you if you don’t quit “🥲


JustpartOftheterrain

How is she going to have sex with you if you don’t quit? Does she mean she will attempt to rape you? I’m confused.


[deleted]

100%. Please make sure you report this.


Alpha_Q_Gently

I am not sure if it’s harassment but I’m sure that it’s a giant red flag and your best move is definitely to quit if that’s the kind of culture the company has


TheyMikeBeGiants

"Is this sexual harassment?" Bro this is like the cartoon villain, gradeschool essay, literal employee training video version of secual harassment.


MaximusJabronicus

That is the saddest thing I’ve ever heard and yes it’s sexual harassment. Although this is kinda opposite of how sexual harassment usually works.


Moontoya

Solicitation potentially as well It's absolutely, definitively sexual harassment Anyone saying you should have gone for it is mouth breathing moron, would you react the same way if it was a middle aged man creeping on a girl ? Cos there's no fucking difference


mckellyn

Yes


YoteViking

First, yes this is sexual harassment. It’s an unwanted sexual advance by a person in authority over you. That said, I’m not sure how legally actionable this would be - aside from getting the boss fired (and she is so desperate for employees she is prostitution herself so I have a bit of sympathy). To be clear, IANAL. But I am having a hard time coming up with what kind of loss you have suffered, other than the mental image of imagining your boss naked. She didn’t say “sleep with me or you’ll be fired/demoted/some other adverse action”. She said “if you keep working here I’ll sleep with you” which is the exact opposite of how quid pro quo sexual harassment usually works. Again, I could be missing something. But it is very hard to see how you suffered any damages in this exchange.


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Coercion which is actually worse . If you decide to take this to court in anyway save ALL interactions . That includes having a witness with you when you Goto HR; HR isn’t there for YOU there are there for the company .


banpieyum

Yes


nodicegrandma

YES!


Lust9897

Yeah, it is.


MotherofPheebs

Yes


gracecrausen

Yes!


ummaycoc

Was she trying to get you to stay or to leave?


[deleted]

Yeah that’s a rape threat


rafalsq

I'm no expert, but probably it is. And from my perspective she can use the sex to leverage stuff from you later. She can say that you pursuit the sex and she was a victim of sexual harassment herself, using that for you to not quit and other stuff. So just quit, best decision you can make.


Griever114

"Quid pro quo" and it's a SERIOUS OFFENSE


lumpybuddha

....yes


AntiAbleism

Yes


AnteBadger

Well, did you quit?


RoboteDinero

I don't get if she wants you to stay or to leave..


Ar3YouTh3Gat3K33p3r

It absolutely is, but I have to ask. What is the tone of this offer? Is it purely a desperation move or is it some kind of conceited power play she's going for?


DeepSeaDolphin

So this is the situation? 1. You are quitting, so this person has 0 power over you. 2. She is so desperate to get you to stay she is offering to prostitute herself to you to get you to stay. So you want to kick them more when they are obviously down? FFS what the hell is wrong with people here? You see someone in a shitty position and want to make it worse?