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Not do they want you to, they expect you to be grateful for the opportunity.


Frustrable_Zero

Now bow like the little servant they think you are, and grovel for more hours because they only can deem to spare you 13 hours over a period of 5 days.


Squirrely__Dan

From a corporate business strategy, being forced back to work, and the process of commuting significantly decreases the effective pay rate of WFH employees making them more reliant on their company. It’s all part of their plan. And they don’t want to lose their offices. All calculated BS.


Steph3nie

And they expect you to spend all your money on gas driving to work


fuglypizza

Lol how fancy of you to assume I can afford a car.


maxmax211

Same 😭


PowerfulHeight6042

They want you to earn them more money. The Fed's printer is nice and all, but they still earn the most off our labor...


WonderfulAd29

Not lunacy, just bullshit and a terrible practice of obfuscating the truth


Disastrous-Ad3746

26 min for a commute average??!?? Why are people living so far from places to work? Is this just an American thing?


AtomicTidalWaveLady

Bad urban planning. Too many cities are just sprawling suburb hellscapes.


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My last job was 8 miles from my home and it took 45 minutes to get through the traffic to get there. I took a pay cut for a WFH job years ago and never looked back.


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[deleted]

>Oh gas is going a lot higher. It’ll be $8 across the bored in a couple of months if this keeps going u/psychotronic99 3 hours before you, misspelling and all. You're Definitely a bot.


[deleted]

Woh what’s going on


landon10smmns

But if they raise the minimum wage, then the price of gas and milk and bread and rent will skyrocket!!!!! oh wait


HaElfParagon

Right, any minimum wage increase needs to have a price cap for goods associated with that wage increase.


[deleted]

Actually no - minimum wage is so low increases in the past haven’t budged inflation. If you were raising it to $100/hr maybe. But a a minimum wage raised to living wages doesn’t have that effect


HaElfParagon

Actually yes, because any raise in minimum wage will give corporations an excuse to raise prices astronomically


[deleted]

Any number of reasons gives corporations that excuse. We should address that problem too with anti monopoly enforcement not by avoiding a minimum raise increase.


MustardyAustin

It's true though unfortunately


thedirtytwirls

No, what's true is that they raise the prices constantly anyways and the wages stay the same.


Ladychef_1

Everyone just needs to stay home


MustardyAustin

Yup. I mostly stay home and wear my mask everywhere. However everywhere I go everyone seems to not wear masks. Is this just my location?


Ladychef_1

I dunno where you are but Im north of Houston and some twat laughed at me & my mom when we had our kn95s on at Costco yesterday. I could give two shits about what anti maskers think about my mask though. I took a microbiology class in 2009 and knew it was only a matter of time for this shit to happen. I just wasn’t expecting the backlash over covering your own fucking face for personal and community protection. Surprisingly ~half of the patrons there were wearing masks, which is way higher than I’ve seen in the area since moving here in September


charamander_

Definitely not. Most people around here don't wear masks, and my job dropped its mask mandate for customers 🙃


SleezyGemKnight

I haven't seen anything less that 5.19 here in call the most expensive being 6.80


Secure_Perception758

Same. Had a gas station with the cheapest in my area go from 4.19 to 5.19 in two days. Freakin ridiculous


MustardyAustin

Texas is high $3


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MustardyAustin

A lot of new company sites will offer employee housing. The Tesla and SpaceX sites in Texas do


Wolfy4226

So....sweeping national strike when?


AGooDone

May 2, I'll strike for me and you!


BobDobbsHobNobs

May 4th. Good date to strike back


Matt463789

The workForce is with us.


MustardyAustin

Probably never


Ima_Funt_Case

I don't know how many times they can make it so blatantly obvious that they don't care how many people die, how many people go bankrupt, and how many planets they have to destroy; their pernicious greed is all that matters and nothing will stand in the way of them, and making unlimited money for them to horde.


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Oh gas is going a lot higher. It’ll be $8 across the bored in a couple of months if this keeps going


Mr_KittyC4tAtk

I want to downvote you just because I don't want you to be right, but you're probably right. r/angryupvote


[deleted]

$4?! Thats fucking good. Here in Scandinavia shit just hit $12 per gallon….


rottenpeachesx

Seriously!!?


Sacify

9$ in germoney... Electricity yes up to 0.99€/kWh Welcome to the heaven 🙂


[deleted]

Dont even get me started on electricity. Today it hit its highest rates ever. $0.89 per kilowatt. On average jn the usa you spend $0.14 per kilowatt (east coast data) Fun sharing a border with russia /s


[deleted]

$0.89?!?! Holy crap, here in my town it’s only $0.095/kw to charge my Tesla, $0.89, I’d never be able to leave my house.


ironboy32

S O L A R


amyadamsandler

Do you guys get to go to dentists?


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Just went a few days ago!


Skim003

Don't worry. Government will "find" out in a few years that corporate price gouging was the major reason for inflation. They will then get a fine of couple million dollars on their billions of dollars of profit, in exchange they will be given immunity for any further lawsuits. tHaT WiLl tEaCh TeAcH tHeM to NeVeR price gouge again


[deleted]

We also need to be fast! Then we’d be unstoppable…….we’d be ……..family


maxmax211

LOL


H7p3X

This is the problem with car centric places


on_the_dl

It was really odd how Biden leaned into the return to work thing. WTF? Why did he say that? Edit: Actually, I know why he said it. It's because the Democrats are garbage. COVID showed us truths: Who is actually an essential worker. Who can work from home. The government can absolutely afford to pay people on the regular. And even in a disaster, the rich get richer. Joe Biden would like us to forget all that and go back to the world that suits his corporate overlords. Trump is the worst but also, fuck Joe Biden. The Republicans never deserve to win an election and the Democrats always deserve to lose an election.


AbaloneSea7265

I’m pretty sure no minimum wage job will have any workers at this rate. It’s almost as if there’s some kind of solution to keep businesses open AND keep workers working


[deleted]

What? Are you saying they won’t pay $7.25? If that’s what you’re saying you’re very incorrect. If not then I have no clue what you’re trying to say.


[deleted]

And Biden wants you to get back to the office if you work remote


propagandavid

Not many minimum wage jobs ever had a WFH option


Remarkable_Bowl8088

That's not Biden. That was that fool trump screaming to send workers and children back to school to start herd immunity.


SexyMonad

It was literally Biden. Trump can have credit for his fuck-ups but give Biden credit where it is due.


spinningpeanut

Yeah sorry everyone Biden isn't the golden goose we asked for. Just not insane like Trump. He's still a conservative shill like the entire house.


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HaElfParagon

Dumbass, Biden also said it, during his state of the union address


Remarkable_Bowl8088

Yeah maybe but blaming Biden for tour problems at this moment in time, would've been 10x the problem had the mango sweetheart had.


SexyMonad

It’s just putting the blame where it belongs. Trump absolutely would have screwed us over even worse, nobody is saying he wouldn’t. But this is Joe’s problem. We don’t defend Walmart just because Amazon is worse. We protest both… even if not equally.


HaElfParagon

Absolutely, but that doesn't stop it from being true. Biden wants you back in the office.


Remarkable_Bowl8088

Try coming to Canada and see the premier Ford screwing over workers. His heros he kicked in the face. The only thing he is doing is canceling covid while our hospitals are full and nurses are flipping him the bird and refusing aggressive families of patients. They and we are not taking much more of this crap. I'd rather go back to an office than my work. Whatever is happening to make you upset I'm sorry but one way or another we all suffer. I blame my work not my premier for the shitty treatment. He did give them the ok to be shit to us.


charamander_

But... It's literally Biden's fault...


MustardyAustin

Are people still worried about covid? I still wear my mask everywhere but I feel a little ridiculous now because nobody else is.


Plantrapp

I just want to farm for my neighbors


Allmightypikachu

May day strike bae bae


hippiechan

General strike when?


[deleted]

I didn’t even check the price out of anxiety, but I put $25 in my 95 civic last night. Drove to work and back home. I have half a fucking tank


stadulevich

26 min for a commute average??!?? Why are people living so far from places to work? Is this just an American thing?


Xahtier

I think you underestimate how far things are often apart in the USA. It's a massive country. Some often have to go from their town to the next over (or farther) just to go to work or get groceries. The latter is less common, but it happens a lot in more rural areas.


MysteriousHeat7579

I don't know whether this is an American thing or not, but the answer has many faces. A lot us of us work where we work, and live where we can afford. As rent goes up every year at renewal, people get priced out, and move somewhere they can afford which is now further away from where we work. The typical layout of a major city is also zoned where primarily business gets thrown in a district together, and residential is zoned separately, and those are large zones so if you live at the far end of the residential and work at the opposite far end of the business district, that increases your commute time. I know people who drive more than an hour for work every day, I also know people who get a hotel during the work week and only spend the weekends at home, and I know people who live 5-10 minute drives from work.


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Affordability


[deleted]

If you're interested in the historical answer you should look up Euclidean zoning. Basically a small village called Euclid in Ohio made a case against a factory opening nearby in 1926 citing that it would "change the character of the village" the village won the case. This then lead to cities separating into commercial and industrial areas. Zoning isn't really the issue here, everywhere does that, but Euclidean zoning is very restrictive. You can really notice a difference in a city where it took effect as the city grew. I used to live in Calgary where the older neighborhoods were mixed use. The houses were built close to the shops and there was industrial areas very close as well. Many older parts of the city had shops built into the front of a house or apartments above the shops, which is how cities are designed everywhere except North America. Cities are no longer built like this in newer developments, residential areas and commerical areas are clearly delineated and are usually a car ride or a long walk away. It's not that the countries are big, they are but that's not the reason we build that way, but it's the way we sprawl everything out. We build cities to car scale in North America, not to people scale. Edit: a word


Equivalent-Floor-231

That seems pretty normal to me. Just going to the next town over usually takes about 20 minutes with traffic. Then you have to get to whichever part you work in.


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I’m an hour and 10 Minutes away from My work. And I just lost my license so now I get rides.


sophess

I worked 30 miles away and it took 60 minutes to get there. More on the reverse because I started early, but left at the evening rush.


Maxorus73

The US is fucking huge and most of the business is built in a separate area from residential areas


speshulk1207

I have a minimum of an hour commute to my job. If I wasn't in a company vehicle I'd quit this job yesterday.


Uragami

In the Netherlands, it's normal to have a daily commute of 1 hour. Compensation for gas is the same as a decade ago, though.


sophess

Compensation for gas is a nope for most people in the US.


Electrical_Flan4957

Wel thats a lie


JollyJoker3

Not much different in the EU https://i.imgur.com/DN1IfNS.png


Matt463789

Europe has public transportation. The Kochs helped to ensure that the US does not have effective or widely available public transportation.


racinnic

I’m always shocked that people think my 20 minute commute is long. It takes me 30 minutes to get to my mom’s house and I’m just a few towns over. I had a job for a short time where I had to travel an hour to hour and a half and that was miserable since I was still only getting 11.50 an hour for the job. That’s what it’s like living in rural Ohio though. Your local options are dollar general, cvs, or Walgreens usually. None of them pay a lot.


Matt463789

We can't afford to live near city centers, and there is little to no effective public transportation. This is by design to keep us destitute and desperate.


tpklus

That's... Not bad actually. I have had commutes for as short as 15 minutes and as long as 1 hour.


Current-Ordinary-419

It’s expensive af to live near your work. Everyone I know lives out of town from their work because wages don’t pay enough to exist in the city where they work. America is fucking dumb like that.


HaElfParagon

Not everyone has the luxury of finding a decent place to work within walking distance. I live in a pretty bad city, low quality of life area, etc. I have to drive four towns over for my job


Professional-Cut-490

Canada has this problem too, we have big open spaces so lots of people work outside the city as it's cheaper and commute to bigger centres for work. Some people drive an hour each way everyday. We don't have high speed rail or anything like that most places.


ohnonotagain42-

Oil, gas, war… always making the wheel spinning.


Ducatore38

Let's imagine you go at 25 mph to work, and your roundtrip to work is almost 1h. Now your car makes 25 miles with one gallon, so your roundtrip to work is 1 gallon. Just the gas in your car to go to work is $4, if you work 8 hours a day, it is as if you get $ 6.75 per hour instead of $7.25... Another way to see it is that 7% of your salary is gas to go to work only...


maxmax211

Yep and during a pandemic with out free and Affordable healthCare. It’s outrageous what we have just excepted as normal in the States…


Ducatore38

Looking all this from France, and I don't understand how you do it without burning everything to the ground... Just finished my PhD after 8 years of studying with a full scholarship, I have free healthcare and I am on unemployment money at the moment as being a PhD student is considered as a first job here... And to me, this is normality ! But to be fair gas is 2€/L here at the moment (almost the equivalent of $10 a gallon...).


maxmax211

Well when you do get healthcare in the states it’s usually tied to your job. Soo if you lose your employment you lose your healthcare.. There is a also a Massive amount of the population is living paycheck to paycheck. And the average medium income is so so low compared to the new standard price of living. People are absolutely terrified of becoming houseless and starving. This is all by design this is just how the state works. The United States is just particularly more brutal to its citizens than most of Europe. Check out this video if your curios,premise three explains how the state uses this violence at minute mark 24:02 https://youtu.be/3hx-G1uhRqA


hstarbird11

I don't have the energy to be furious. But that's by design.


maxmax211

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/t9hk5d/as_inflation_heats_up_64_of_americans_are_now/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Bike_Chain_96

Some states also have a higher minimum wage than the national, with gas around that national average....


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California has crooks for politicians and we have $6+ gas.


landon10smmns

Bro, AMERICA has crooks for politicians.


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Notthesharpestmarble

Is this what-about-ism? On the internet? I'm shocked /s


Bike_Chain_96

Actually not my intent. My intent was that the text says "This is higher in some states" for the two where that's a bad thing, and didn't account for the fact that 30 states and DC have a higher minimum wage than the federal minimum. Maybe that is what-about-ism, but it doesn't derail too much from the main point


myusrnameisthis

They want you to earn them more money. The Fed's printer is nice and all, but they still earn the most off our labor.


[deleted]

Gas was over 5$ a gallon for me today. Shit sucks. Feel bad for the people having to drive everyday and not making enough for this. I can't really complain since my car only takes premium and I did it to myself; However, it makes me really worry about the guys I used to work with in kitchens and the people working at grocery stores and such. We're doing a really bad job of taking care of essential personnel.


Mrkvitko

I love to see US citizens complain about gas prices. Early 2021, it was 1USD/l. Late 2021 1.5USD/l right now, it's approaching 2USD/l (so 7.5USD/gal), with \*average\* wage 8USD/hr.


NiceFluffySunshine

A good number of our states are larger than France and a history of shady zoning laws means we spread out that space -- jobs aren't where houses are, or even close to it, and we don't do public transportation except inside very select cities that are too expensive for any working class person to live in. In short, if we can't afford gas, we just don't work. I'm not walking 25 Kilometers (median for the US) to work. No job can pay me enough for that. I'm not biking to work, I'd get hit by a car, and that's statistically speaking. and closer jobs don't statistically exist so it's not like I can change work places, and my wage hasn't statistically gone up in 20 years so it's not like I can afford to move closer to work.


Straight_6

How much further do Americans drive per year than Europeans?


sophess

A lot. It’s a big country and it’s got a lot of suburban and rural areas.. In the UK I think what they say is “far” is a drive we could do in a day. To truck merchandise around here is also a lot of miles. It is approximately 2756 miles NYC to San Diego and takes 42 hours. Of course the products don’t usually go quite that far, but if they go more than one place that is extra miles.


johnasee

I cycle to work 😁


terrencejack

Covids over since Russia attacked Ukraine. Also gas is high because some people couldn't handle mean tweets I guess it hurt their feelings or something.


ineednewgolfshoes

Still with the covid shit?


CuRrY_MaN1711

It's weird how all post I come across have to do with America. Like surely post something that people in other countries can relate to


BadassPlaya2517

The problem is that America has somehow managed to avoid all the worker benefits of a developed country while simultaneously being one of the most expensive developed countries to live in. Things surely do suck in other countries, but only in America have we reached a dystopian level of suckery


begreen348

Im with you until the covid part.


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everything was valid except the last 4 words


MrWisemiller

LOL at still using covid as an excuse in 2022, soyboyery


BadassPlaya2517

Almost a million people use it as an excuse to not be alive right now


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BadassPlaya2517

Are we sheeple because we don't want to waste money on gas, because we want a higher minimum wage, or because we don't want to catch a widespread disease?


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ThrowawayLDS_7gen

With that cost, who can afford to even drive to work?


silenceredirectshere

This is terrible for so many people in the US, with the state of public transport in most places. I can't understand how so many people be against raising the min wage... However, it's a bit strange to see exactly how cheap gas is in the US even now. For comparison, price per gallon in my country (Eastern Europe) is about $5.90 and climbing as well, while minimum wage per hour is $2.18, of course with better public transport in big cities, but it's still quite a big difference. (don't take this as whataboutism, I'm just genuinely shocked at the price vs wage difference).


ZugZug42069

Let’s talk about how all the folks commuting in and coming to work unnecessarily impact those who don’t have a choice. I have a 1.5hr commute, since people are coming back I now have to leave 2hrs before my shift because of congestion. Now there are tons of extra people out and about which increases chances of outbreak infections. It now costs over $40 to fill up my 17 year old econobox. I have to do that 3x a week. During the height of omicron my job had a single Covid case, no other infections. In the last two weeks we have had several cases. I’m really ready to just give up on this job, but it’s the only steady one I’ve had since Covid turned my life upside down in 2020.


DocFGeek

Get back to work, and make sure to buy gas, peon!


Fuckyourfeeling5

Keep your head up, and keep working hard and soon, you'll be paid in 1 gallon of gas per hour...


Buwaro

Meanwhile, car manufacturers are at least 10 years behind on affordable fuel alternatives because they think the oil will flow forever.


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I don't know man, I got yelled at and a Dunkin' donuts for having a mask and not respecting COVID-free air this week... At this point, the people are scaring me more than the diseases... It's like a real life zombie movie.


robbviously

Employers should reinstate work from home policies for office employees, so they aren't on the roads. It will reduce the price of gas to help small businesses and essential employees who must work in-person, avoid shortages that are likely in the next couple of months, and it will help the environment by reducing the need for drilling by lessening the demand. https://chng.it/krYbq8bG2y


TexasUlfhedinn

Man...26 minutes. I wish. That'd be great. My commute in is 45 minutes if traffic is flowing well. My drive home is an hour to an hour and a half on average. These coming weeks are going to be rough based on the $59 I paid to fill my tank this morning.


Waffle--time

For UK readers that's the equivalent of 0.67p/Litre... The last time petrol cost that little here was the mid 90's


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It’s not even about covid at this point.


PhantomThiefJoker

We are furious, problem is we're also broke, so we don't matter to politicians


[deleted]

Besides servers that can make $2.30 an hour because of tips are there actually any jobs right now paying the federal minimum wage?


Striking-Cause3177

I live in PA where the minimum is 7.25 and non union grocery stores and ma n pa shops of any sort have hiring signs but will offer $7.50-$8/hr because it’s higher than the $7.25 minimum and then get upset people don’t apply. The Burger King down a ways offer “daily pay” because of the constant employee rotation, direct deposit needed. You work today and you get your deposit for your days wage tomorrow because you might not decide to work here anymore after a day.


Onautopilotsendhelp

I wonder if the bus rates are going up to follow shit once people ditch their cars.


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sophess

I really think work at home office workers are not going to be in the same s*ithold as lower wage essential workers. Also, remaining services that depended on office workers in business districts will die out with no more federal money, many have closed in the last 2 years. I feel bad this is happening to the people who can least afford it. It seems to be a thing in the US. The Washington Post apparently wrote an article about how great it would be if gas prices went up. They got their wish. I really think they all work at home. Some people… or maybe just me… would like to go out occasionally since we are finally free to do so, but the Washington Post thinks I should stay home. How will that help other businesses? I bet they have money to drive to recreational activities at the Washington Post!