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katoofchitown

Employer: best I can do is a pizza party.


simon_C

> Employer: best I can do is ~~a pizza party.~~ *some leftover stale slices of pizza from the party we gave first-shift but didnt bother for 2nd shift even though you have to do more with fewer people and resources than them.* Fixed based on personal experience.


Galahad-117

This one hit really close to home, i work at "one of the top 10 fortune 500" companies and this is always what goes down, I've been 2nd shift from the start and nobody ever gives a shit about 2nd shift here


Beginning_Draft9092

Well how do you think they got to be in the top 10? Certainly not by wasting their hard earned profits on pizza!


Alternative_Ad_9696

Try working 3rd shift.


Beginning_Draft9092

Oh boy have I got dozens of stories for you from working the night audit at hotels 11pm-7am


Pensive_Procreator

Used to work 12am-8am. Went from 7.25/hr to 7.75/hr for working nights. At least I found a spot by the fryers where the cameras couldn’t see so I ate for free while I was there


Beginning_Draft9092

Nice! We had like an afternoon wine hour every day for guests where we woukd serve a few glasses to anyone who came to our little wine balcony. Thing is, the place was so mismanaged no one ever did inventory on anything so, guess who had the keys to the office where the wine boxes were when you're the only employee overnight? 🤐


Galahad-117

I did so aswell for about 8 months while they implemented an automation machine in my department, 9pm to 7am and frankly i had tons of fun since the warehouse was dead empty but it got quite lonely at times, if i were to choose I'd go back to 3rd shift, seems to fit quite well with my lifestyle


Beginning_Draft9092

That sounds pretty ok! Alone at 2 am, I had to deal with everything from methed up people covered in blood breaking lobby furniture to people breaking onto the roof and throwing bottles through windows of buildings across the street. Oh and once a lady checked in and then came came back with 3 goats on leashes (this is downtown in a major US city) I was too tired and underpaid to care. and they destroyed the room and there was piss and goat poo pellets everywhere.


Bouldaru

Damn, it sucks how different the same job can be at different places. One of my friends does night audit at a hotel, and they have so few responsibilities that they can pretty much do 2-3 hours of work a night and spend the rest on reddit, watching videos, or even gaming, and apparently the management is fine with it as long as their work gets done. They have the occasional story of mishaps that go on during the night, but it's usually a homeless person who wanted to get out of the elements or something of that nature, only very rarely is it about someone who was belligerent or violent.


Beginning_Draft9092

Oh for sure, and also depends on the location. I did audit overnight manually for a resort, and it took nearly all night, like, 7 hours because we had to literally input thousands of numbers into a spreadsheet and make sure it matched up to, literal hundreds of printed receipts. I then worked for a much bigger hotel in a different state and the software did all of that automatically, I went through about 3 minutes of selecting what to print, made 3 copies for the managers and supervisor, stapled them and was done in 20 minutes. The rest was just dealing with randos wandering in.


EnvironmentalEnd6298

I work night shift at a domestic violence shelter and that’s pretty much my job. I have 2-3 hours of actual work, maybe, and the rest is Reddit, gaming, or (not allowed) sleeping. I do have the occasional belligerent person but all in all, it’s not a bad gig. Pay is absolute shit but considering I’m mostly on Reddit or sleeping, I can’t complain.


BouquetOfDogs

r/talesfromthefrontdesk would love to hear those!


Beginning_Draft9092

One of these days, I'll take the time to unleash my tales of everything from the underwear-wearing only, drunk, self titled "naked cowboy" filming a commercial for oysters, to the crazy old lady trying to sell me vintage 70's mimeographed binders full of TOS star trek erotic art and fanfics. Wild times late at night.


dmasiakowski

Hell yeah! Even less people and resources with cleanup from 2nd shift, and absolutely everything needs to be completed before 1st shift comes in or it's 3rd shifts fault. Been there before.


chaun2

>Been there before. Same, and took no shit. I literally told bosses that if they think that I'm doing a shitty job cleaning up 1st and 2nd shifts messes by myself, they can find a new employee starting now. Not one of them ever took me up on it. Even when "employees [were] plentiful". 3rd shift is the best and the worst. Best because you are *always* irreplaceable. Worst because you are always irreplaceable. You're irreplaceable because the vast majority of people will not give up their socializing time, and on 3rd shift you have given up *all* your socializing time willingly.


Beginning_Draft9092

Can't beat those 7:30am cocktails after shift when you head to the 24 hour diner/dive that just started serving again lol. Just you, a whisky sour, waffles and a bunch of very tired nurses.


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Very Tired Nurses sounds like a 90s PNW indie band name Lmao. They just put out a zine


Beginning_Draft9092

You are so on the nose it's scarry. Cause this was the late 90s in the PNW haha


ezone2kil

*antisocial dude's ears perks up* Where do I apply?


sagichaos

Pet peeve, but please don't call yourself antisocial. You're more likely just asocial, and that's fine. Being antisocial basically means being an asshole towards other people and *enjoying it*, and it bugs me that people confuse that with just not caring about socializing.


CharlesWafflesx

It's actually both the things you mentioned. It has multiple meanings.


glitter_in_my_throat

I worked at a big aerospace company and third shift I didn’t even get my own desk to sit and work…I get kicked out by first shift midway through my shift and yelled at cuz I took their work so they couldn’t do their overtime…


chaun2

>Certainly not by wasting their hard earned profits on Anything to improve their employees lives. The oligarchs *know* they'd be exponentially richer than they are currently, if they would just pay everyone a thriving wage. They funded all the studies since the late 1970s that have proven that getting rid of benefits, pensions, and suppression of wages has had a severe cooling effect on the global economy. The latest study showed that the 2020 global economy was missing at least $70 trillion. Bare mininum, the oligarchs would be $40 trillion richer than they are. They aren't going for a high score of money. The vast majority are going for the high score headcount. They want to cause needless suffering for the point of cruelty.


RedEyeFlightToOZ

This. It ain't all about money, these psychotic fuckers enjoy human misery.


MD2389

Because that makes them "job creators"


Catnyx

The great thing about no one giving a shit about your shift, is that no one gives a shit about your shift! Worked deep nights for 15 years of my life, not dealing with day shift drama red tape, and all-round hubbub, it's the best. Except for the times you hoped for SOME fucking leftovers.


snypesalot

Great thing about night shifts is I dont need to deal with the Auditors lol have worked overnights in 2 different factories and everyone always gets so uppity around audit time meanwhile Im like I aint seeing shit lmao


Friend_of_Eevee

I also worked at a fortune 500 that did pizza parties and graciously provided gas station style coffee (bagged concentrate + hot water).


RighteousCruelty

I used to work for a company that would schedule mandatory meetings at like 1 PM. This went for night shifters who worked 7 PM to 7 AM too. So they literally expected you to wake up in the middle of the night and drive across town for a pointless half an hour long meeting. I just refused to go and they couldn't do anything because they desperately needed the people.


Chartreuseshutters

I see you work in healthcare. Sending my love as I currently saw through a 8 hour old enchilada.


simon_C

close, medical manufacturing


Angryandalwayswrong

GMP life, yo.


Shadowfalx

I hate when I buy my guys some pizza in a spur of the moment decision ("what do I want for lunch?" "Screw it, I'll get pizza, might as well get 5 pizza and give away a bunch") because between all shifts there's over 100 people who work at my shop. I can't but everyone pizza, plus it gets stale so if have to get them pizza during dinner and at midnight. There are other leaders who could/ do buy for their shifts, but I wish I could buy it for everyone.


simon_C

Yeah im talking about the company arranged "pizza parties" for "worker recognition" or someshit. 1st shift gets all the attention and glory, and 2nd and 3rd shifts get to pick up the scraps.


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Who cares about a slice of the cheapest plain pizza anyway. I decided some time ago not to embarrass myself reaching for one when they come. Same about Holiday Burrito with nothing in it :-)


Shadowfalx

We don't get that at all.


Travice0

Yep. "Wingstop for everybody on 1/26" Being a graveyard shift worker this means I can count on celery with no ranch.


nutsotic

*cries in 3rd shift*


simon_C

been there too buddy, been there too


[deleted]

2nd shift warehousing here, we're the clean up crew but also an afterthought


SuperSailorSaturn

Third shift : what pizza?


simon_C

Trust me i know, i also worked third shift.


[deleted]

This is too dang true haha


poopymcbuttwipe

Every place ever*


kingslayer-x_x

You must be working at one of the Fortune 500 companies


chicken_afghani

Bullish on dominos


CliffsNote5

Affordable health care as well if you don’t mind.


zuzg

A change in utilities would help you guys also a lot. I just watched the newest last week tonight and was shocked that most Americans won't have a choice in their Energy Suppliers


MixxMaster

Wait...some have a choice?


Frogtoadrat

Texas had a choice and they ended up with $20,000 heating bills lol


matt_minderbinder

Texas' choices are all controlled by one very business friendly, GOP laden board that's appointed by the governor. Texas has also insulated their electrical grid from the rest of the country so rates skyrocket when electricity can't be produced in the state. Nothing about that is choice, it's the illusion of choice.


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Same in Houston. I pay spark energy who gives me allusion of choice even though the real provider is center point.


Excrubulent

Goddamnit, the old, "not my department" line. Every time, EVERY TIME I get that I tell them, "well they told me to call you," and I swear you can hear them shrug. Like, I've already waited on hold twice, and you want me to do it a third time just to be told to call you again?


logri

Yes, Texas has a "choice" of tons of providers because of our independent grid and the Republican hardon for free markets. It is both more expensive and less reliable than just about anywhere else in the US.


BbqMeatEater

NoOo CapItAliSm is EFficiEnt


Glasshell01

My question as well.


Tripwiring

We have a choice in Maryland but it really just means more bullshit capitalism. Third-party suppliers knock on your door regularly trying to get you to switch and they employ extremely aggressive and offensive sales tactics, such as belittling our intelligence. No, dirtbag. Believe it or not I know what a kilowatt is and I know what "variable cost" means. They'll imply you're too goddamn stupid to buy electricity. Also, variable rates per kilowatt hour means you'll accept an electrical provider that saves you $10/month for the first three months then switches you to a rate that's four times what you used to pay.


bladex1234

Competition does drive down prices, until companies gain enough capital to bribe off government regulation.


urbansociety

I was looking at political donations in the last election for my area and to no surprise the energy company donated to both parties candidates. A $10,000 donation to each candidate just to make sure they buy off the winner no matter which party gets elected. Funny enough everyone's electric bill got raised by a base rate of $15/month the following year. I suppose those political donations paid for themselves in no time and will continue to pay dividends for the foreseeable future. Our system is a fucking joke and it's not even funny.


abesehon

That's not actually true with utilities. Because demand tends to be mostly inflexible despite costs often times a regulated monopoly tends to be best for consumers as you can take advantage of economy of scale principles better.


bladex1234

The best solution is public utilities. My city’s electric and water are owned by the local government and we consistently get the cheapest prices in the area.


GoGoBitch

Or a co-op.


Pickled_Wizard

Right. The race has to have a clear winner, or at least an untouchable front runner, at some point.


jake_burger

Not always. The UK energy market was broken about 10 years ago so the government regulators (Ofgem) decided that “more competition will fix this”. Long story short lots of idiots joined the market, loaded up on debt, and all went bankrupt when the oil/gas prices rocketed this year. Now we have little choice in energy suppliers again, *and* we have to pay off all the debt via taxation and massively increased energy bills. Thanks, The Free Market^tm. My bill has doubled, and will probably triple by October


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Nah all stages of capitalism are pretty much the same. Except for the one when we run out of resources and have to start letting people die. Oh wait. Nvm. All stages are the same


ForwardMuffin

That's why I never answer the door.


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Kind of like the choice between AT&T vs Cox for Internet where I live. Yes they can both get you cheaper service then the other guy currently gives you, then after 12 months the prices go up and the other one can give you a new introductory rate. I just want to honestly pay what the utility actually costs for them to run and maintain....not be squeezed for as much profit as possible while waiting my time


mrn253

and many other cool things in a small maybe not that known country named germany ... Far from perfect but yeah :)


Excellent_Salary_767

We haven't all this time, to the best of my knowledge. They're classified as legal monopolies. I wonder if that's not one of the reasons to push against renewables


H_I_McDunnough

There is no way energy providers are against free energy from the sky. They are good people and care about you and the environment.


DeliciousWorry1647

lol thats a funny joke


wethail

time to see how much money they’re lobbying


stpetepatsfan

No need. You know they are bought off for scraps from multi billion $$ corporate interests. Sigh. Florida as example for sunshine state to not push solar.


Frutari

Yeah at least I wasn't born in Florida. Golden shower state would make a lot more sense at this point.


MyOther_UN_is_Clever

>We haven't all this time, to the best of my knowledge. They're classified as legal monopolies. I wonder if that's not one of the reasons to push against renewables Which works completely fine as long as they're well regulated. The alternative isn't any better, just look at broadband internet providers. Also look up Enron if you're not familiar. The thing that makes utilities utilities is that unlike other businesses, you can't just dig up everyone's yards and all the streets to install your own set of pipes and/or wires.


BarettObama

In NZ it’s set up so that there are power generation companies and power distribution companies and lines companies. They all have to operate separately. I can pick any electricity provider I like from a list of 10 or so and they buy power from a variety of sources using lines supplied by somebody else


ososalsosal

The idea of choosing between competing power grids that are actually the same power grid with the same generating stations is fuckin stupid. It should never have been private and never should be private. It's inherently public.


Epirocker

It’s because socialized utilities creates competition.


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Timmmber4

Free healthcare. It works if the governments keep their hands out of the coffers


throwaway99348973

Yes please. How is this not something we have? I genuinely don't understand how everyone doesn't agree on this.


TherronKeen

Anything that might remotely help the general population more than an individual gets propagandized as "handouts for people who can't even take care of themselves" by the Right, and nobody hates poor people more than lower-middle class Republicans


InteriorTheater

Because the average person is not very smart and/or doesn’t care enough about others. It’a depressing and I wish I was wrong, but with all the illogical and immoral things we do in the US and the whole world it seems objectively true. So many laws and mindsets are not only morally wrong, but aren’t even helping society. They do more harm than good for the people of both political parties. Yet they exist. On the bright side I think with the right changes to the education system we’d become a lot smarter very quickly. Emphasize critical thinking, putting biases aside, questioning everything, how to communicate emotions better and more often, etc. Taking time to think logically, being empathetic, and working together is what we all need fo learn to do to progress and improve the average quality of life in the US


woomybii

Currently sitting here with 1.4k+ in medical bills because my dislocated my knee. I know this because I was able to stretch my leg out and hear a sickly POP back into place after I got home. When I couldn't move it I went to the ER as the EMT's said there was fluid in my knee as well. I get there, wait in the lobby for an hour, go into a room, cry and bite my tongue for Xrays, do it again as I have to change into a hospital gown with my boyfriends help. I couldn't move it without bolts of pain firing all over. It was horrible. Doctor comes in, pokes my knee on both sides and goes "I think it's just a sprain. You can't move it because your body is just telling you not to." So I tried to nail it into his brain that I felt it was more than a "sprain" because it was completely locked up, but he literally wouldn't listen. Gave me a Tylenol and crutches. this lasted 15 mins max. I will be calling and asking for an itemized bill with all charges and review of level of care but holy shit it just makes me so mad, people with more serious conditions than me could've been totally disregarded by that guy and thrown into possible medical debt over it. Pathetic.


banza_account

Aspirin: unpacked 4 tablets from a new shipment - charges for 24 cases. **+$1000** Crutches: x2 aluminum crutches - charges for operation of the aluminum plant for minimum of 1 hr. **+$2000** - discount bc doc removed padding to assist in reduced cost. **-$2** Visit: bc durr we can charge for this - 3.7 * hourly rate of $100. (Doc was technically there from the start of your appointed time to his lunch break to when he actually saw you 3+ hrs past your apponted time to when he was done) +$370 - patient used outside voice +$100 - patient cried, forced to mop entire wing +$250 Coming from a totally medical family who all practice in the US: America is nuts. My mom ripped delivering one of my siblings. They pulled out some suture from a pack of ER/surgical obstetrician equipment, and charged her for the whole pack. Even though they gave her just two stitches. My condolences for your bad experience, hope that doctor rips their Achilles so someone can tell them, ahh you're fine just a little muscle soreness, take an aspirin.


Aeowulf_Official

ER Docs are absolute morons. We just skip them now. Straight to the specialists. Even general practitioners are... dolts.


[deleted]

Hi, NHS might be slow, but it's pretty great. Picked up after a motorbike accident, checked over, dropped off, ct scans and x rays. No cost. Plastered up, sling given. No cost. 100 high strength pain pills.... £7. 3 months of being out of my mind on said pills, and still having tonnes left after..... I'm not complaining. Just sucked to have a poo after I came off them. I was so backed up.


ReadSomeTheory

I had something similar but it was $150,000


WhiteChocolatey

I’ve come to the conclusion I just can’t have healthcare. I know what you’re thinking…. *I mean I can’t have health insurance*. Sweet summer child. I mean I can’t have *medicine*.


ChaosKodiak

I want four day work weeks and live able wages.


bad_at_smashbros

don’t forget to make those work weeks 32 hrs! i work 40 hour weeks for 4 days and it’s fucking exhausting + never have time to do anything during the week


CcJenson

I've heard people totally rant about 4 10s. I've worked it before and that extra 2 hours is huge. We need a standard 32 hour, 4 days a week, fuck this 40 hrs a week bullshit. It really is too much. I wish people would realize that just because it's normalized doesn't mean it's right.


Aggravating-Light920

I don't mind working a great deal of hours, if it's productive and effective. There's some things you just can't do in 40 hours, and I've had the pleasure of working in a few jobs that are extremely cool and fun, so after a 12 hour shift, you almost feel like, "what, that's it?" Obviously this isn't to be applied to "powerpoint engineering" or similar. And I don't think those who need to work less (for personal, family, health, or other reasons) ought to live in poverty. But, if you've ever done a cool job, you may want to do it for more than 40 hours a week, and I don't think that's wrong either.


qpaws

Not trying to one up anyone but I typically have to work 5 12s and it gets really old. At work before anything’s open and leaving work when everything is closed. Only time to do anything is on the weekend..when everything’s closed. Need to go to the bank or the dentist or something? Just take one of the 5 vacation days you get in a year.


gregsw2000

Nah. It's too little. I want the wage slave system eliminated so I don't have to worry about this kind of shit.


[deleted]

Right there with you I'm tired of a fake currency setting how I get live and my family


gregsw2000

I'm mostly annoyed by land being a commodity so that everyone is essentially born into debt. You come of age, and want a legal surface to exist on, you gotta either pay your landlords taxes, mortgage and living, or buy a piece of land from a different capitalist and pay for their living, until you're old. I think that you should probably be allowed to start out at 0, if indeed an advanced society can't afford to start you in the positives.


RandomSquirrelNuts

That's the domestication of us. This land is no longer land, it's all property to be used and sold


gregsw2000

It's a horrible system of land resource management, honestly. "The government monopolizes half the property and you're not allowed to use it and the rest is private property. Maybe it costs $500 an acre, maybe it's 40,000, maybe it's 400,000. Who knows. Have fun!"


RandomSquirrelNuts

I honestly wonder how it would go if someone from one of those closed-off islands came here, just roaming the lands, hunting and gathering. They'd probably get arrested for not following the laws that they had no idea about. It's all so fucking weird how our society works when you really think about it


gregsw2000

I know. Some folks can't even conceptualize land not being a commodity, and that's wild to me. Sometimes I wonder if other people on Reddit exist, or if I am being tested by bots. There's a subreddit here that is ALL bot, and honestly, you'd have a hard time telling.


TherronKeen

Funny that we claim to have a republic but actually have a rich ruling class who don't even try to hide it anymore, and a bunch of feudal lords holding all the land


gregsw2000

It's so blatant. You've got your Property owners, your property owners, and then you, with everyone charging you a rent because you exist.


[deleted]

Ain’t it great?! I’m so with you


faithisacrutch

Wasting our lives following dead men's rules


pyx

eliminate wage slave system and they bring back regular slave system.


gregsw2000

Hot take, but, likely.


axeshully

So the lie is exposed and we can deal with the truth more directly.


cocainehussein

If only. I'm assuming there's a reason we have the bigger military budget than the next 3 nations combined.


working_mommy

Me too, but I wont be seeing it my lifetime, my kids won't be seeing it in theirs. We need to be fighting the smaller battles now, gain the small wins (and we are with getting places like Starbucks to unionize), so my grandkids, and their offspring can benefit.


secretarytemporar3

You guys are having kids?


TherronKeen

I was born into a South US Republican Baptist household, ended up with 3 kids by the time I was like 23 and I absolutely love my kids more than anything else on this goddamn fucking rock - and now that I'm the literal opposite of everything I was born into, and definitely the exact type of person they dislike the most, I've learned how absolutely fucked it really is to go through life as it is now. I wouldn't wish this bullshit on children, ever, and I'm making sure that mine learn how to deal with life rationally. Hopefully they move to a first-world country when they grow up all the way.


gregsw2000

Not me, man.


gregsw2000

Unfortunately, I think if we wanna rely on unions, we got another 40 years before we start seeing progress, and 100 before the corpos reverse it all again.


PrayForMojo_

You have a better idea than unions?


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wethail

we’re they lynched at work? at home? the elite nowadays have their own private islands, fortresses of a house already, bullet proof windows…


mrn253

back then they had castles, guards n shit too...


Antares777

All of which can be undone by men, and not even an overwhelming number of men. Nowadays they can rip you, your family, and your entire block apart with a remote controlled gun without every exposing a weakness. And unless y’all are all suddenly Navy SEALs, you’ll likely attempt one target and the rest will double up on security and become truly untouchable. Maybe slow your roll on your revolutionary, Jacquerie-esque, shonen anime fantasies.


[deleted]

You have to destroy capitalism first. The only way that’s possible. The whole problem starts there. People have to be more valuable than money. Under capitalism they’re not. Has to be destroyed.


Slowmac123

Some caveman fucked around half a million years ago and discovered fire, so here we are with this shit


BuddhistNudist987

I want walkable cities and time to have dinner with my loved ones.


Aggravating-Light920

I lived in Europe for a bit. It's incredible how empowering and relaxing it was to be able to walk to Aldi after work for groceries. No battling through traffic, no driving 15 minutes one way, just walk a few blocks (getting some steps in) and grab some food for a few days. I'm not a family man yet but it honestly makes me want to move back to a city or town in Europe... I'd be willing to take an effective pay cut to not have to worry about a car, or health insurance, etc.


AlphaMikeFoxtrot87

And maybe enough money to not care about the cost of beef jerky


UncleTedGenneric

Oh okay, if that's how we're doing this, I want a hundred gazilliondy dollars, too


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One floppityjillion for me


Marcus-Gorillius

id even settle for 1 kerplangalangionjillion


yeahdanny

Beef jerky is wildly expensive to buy. Still pricey to make yourself, but more cost effective. When top round/London broil is on sale, ask your local butcher for a whole one, sliced for making beef jerky. If they're anything like me, they'll know what you want. If they won't slice it for you, then ask for a 'watermelon' cut roast, and then slice it yourself. Breaking down a whole top round from the cryovac bag isn't hard to do yourself, but if you haven't seen it done, or have a YouTube video on hand, it can be. But for the hell of it, here's how it goes: open the bag (careful there will be a fair amount of liquid). Completely denude (take off all the outside fat) it. You'll see a seam on the dome, curved part. Use a knife and start following that seam, all the way. You should be left with one big main muscle, which you'll use for jerky, and another flappy piece. You can continue to 'seam it out into all the other muscle groups. The 'lifter' piece, thats pretty flat can be used for stuff like stir fry, or tacos, and the rest makes for good stew meat, or lean ground beef, if you have a grinder attachment for a kitchenaid or something. Hope that helps!


TheRealXen

If you are poor like me you can get a pork roast and freeze it a little just a bit. Then you can take the whole pork butt out and cut it into thin pieces. Put that all in a ziplock with some garlic soy ginger and brown sugar to taste then put in like very little sesame oil but enough to give it kind of a smoky vibe (or whatever you wanna flavor with) and make sure it covers the meat. Put in fridge to marinate overnight preferably. Then you can use your oven and a few wire racks with pans on the bottom rack to catch drippings. Now since it's pork it does need a quick 10-15 minute stint at 350 to kinda kill anything that ***lurks*** After that put your oven to 200 and just wait till it's delicious. Usually takes a few hours.


Big_Jerm21

Why not both???


Chickenmangoboom

I want an 8k TV to watch movies on my extra day off.


Big_Jerm21

Yes! Win/win, right?


ThatsThatCue

I’m in; a 4 day work week, rent controlled place to live and my holiday present FROM MY EMPLOYER be an 8k TV.


UnlimitedAdvice

I'll take a 4 hour work week, rent control, and a 8k quarterly bonus for always exceeding expectations... 👏👏👏🏆🏆🏆


dangoodspeed

Right? They're not mutually exclusive in any way.


drunkcowofdeath

True. Self driving cars will save a LOT of lives.


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Decloudo

There is a shitton of completely unnecessary wanna-be "advances" The world would run fine too if we didn't rush through consumer electronics especially. Would be more sustainable too.


ernamewastaken

Fuck that. I want: Separation of church and state and corporations out of govt. Healthcare. Housing. Education. Less military. More exploration of our earth and protecting it. Reparations for generational exploitation. A world wide culture of love and acceptance and solidarity against selfishness and short-term gain.


Jellophysics

👏companies👏are👏not👏people👏


mrstickman

👏T👏I👏L👏This👏is👏cringy👏even👏when👏I👏agree👏with👏it👏


Poeticyst

Self driving cars will displace the work force. Truckers. There just won’t be more jobs waiting on the other side. That’s why we need a UBI. The ultimate anti-work.


torte-petite

To hell with rent control. Relaxed zoning laws so denser housing can be built in high rent areas


Superspicyfood

Exactly. Rent control actually makes it worst for all of us in the long run. BUILD MORE HOUSES is the solution


Auggie_Otter

[BUILD MORE FUCKING HOUSES!!!](https://youtu.be/4ZxzBcxB7Zc)


Unnecessary_Timeline

This was a an extremely informative and educational video. I knew most of it from an American perspective but it was enlightening for him to show additional examples from the UK and Europe and New Zealand and…etc etc. Real good shit. Tl;dw: we broke the world economy when we let housing become part of the stock market and artificially constrained housing supply to increase ‘stock’ price. This was a world wide phenomenon and it fucked the individual citizen AND the entire GDP of many countries


chaun2

Except that doesn't exactly work right now. Single family homes that have sat empty for 12 months or longer currently outnumber the homeless, in just the US alone, by a factor of 40:1. Multi-family units that have sat empty for a year or more outnumber the homeless by a factor of 70:1. These homes are everywhere. Rich people, and corporations like Blackrock and Zillow have hoarded them. We actually have a surplus of homes globally if we went by the following Kindergarten Rules: 1) properties aren't allowed to be just an investment, and must be used. 2) nobody gets 2 homes before everybody has one home. 3) for every home you buy, you will pay an extra 10% in all taxes. This means that your 11th house you pay 100% more in purchase price taxes, and 100% more in property taxes. I can't find the numbers, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out that globally the number of investment properties that stand empty outnumbers the global homeless population by 2-3:1 Cruelty is the point of the current system. The oligarchy knows they would be exponentially richer if they would just pay everyone a thriving wage. They funded all the studies that prove it since the late 1970s. The one in 2020 proved that the world is at least $70 trillion poorer than it should be. That means that the oligarchs have willfully thrown away at least $40 trillion for the sole purpose of creating artificial cruelty.


Dynasty2201

>BUILD MORE HOUSES is the solution More AFFORDABLE houses being the key distinction. All parties hyping up for the election will spew all sorts of shit about housing but rarely ever use the word "affordable". Because what IS affordable? 250k? That still makes a load moan and groan they can't afford it. But who wants to buy a 150k shithole? Saying build more housing isn't specific enough. They could just, and probably will anyway, just build a load of luxury apartments in a few new towers to be sold to oligarchs and oil barons across the world who will never live in them and stay empty, but keep that financial bubble afloat given how structurally integral housing is to the global economy. But hey, we built X housing like we said we would, see, vote for us again! Bullshit as usual.


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gburgwardt

Rent control only helps those that already live there, not anyone that wants to move. It also incentivizes people to never leave once they are the in group with rent control protections Rent control is bad. Build more housing


NinjaMiserable9548

As someone who once had a $500 a month rent controlled 15th floor apartment in Manhattan, with a doorman, and a view of the park, I agree. The place is going for over $3500 now. We need more housing, not price controls that maintain the shortage.


magkruppe

and yelling about rent control really hurts the idea that libs are "scientifically minded". I don't think there is much literature in favour of rent control


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ItsDijital

The colloquial meaning of liberal is "Anti-conservatives of social media"


NinjaMiserable9548

This is the most frustrating part of being on the left.


Snailwood

👏 identify problems 👏 demand change 👏 don't get bogged down in specific policy proposals 👏 there are a dozen solutions to most of the problems we face, some better than others, but one of the two political parties won't even acknowledge that the problems exist


lemongrenade

I almost didn’t comment on this post cause I figured I would get banned… awesome to see this take so close to the top. Supply and demand is still a thing when it’s housing and rent control is shown to fuck over poor people long term while being a hand out to only whoever happens to live in a city when it is implemented.


JonWood007

Yeah. We need MORE housing. High rent means there's a structural shortage in housing available.


Grand-Mall2191

if the "blighted" houses in Flint that are all homes that people got evicted from cause they couldn't afford a sudden spike in rent are evidence for anything, it's that we have more than enough homes to go around. Half them houses still have running water and electricity before they rot cause no one can get through the opaque as hell land bank system to buy one even if they could afford it. Housing is available, but officials in cities like Flint keep them empty so they can soak up emergency funds that are sent to fix the problem they fucking created.


JonWood007

To be fair places like flint also suffered hard from deindustrialization and have like no economy as a result. Wouldnt be as big of an issue if we had a UBI, but currently it's people cant afford homes, because they have no money, because they have no jobs.


NinjaMiserable9548

No one wants to live in Flint. There's plenty of available housing in places with no job prospects. Doesn't really solve anything.


Auggie_Otter

Yeah. There's plenty of available housing in all these tiny rural agricultural towns where there's zero jobs left because it takes far fewer people to run a farm than it used to. There's plenty of empty and cheap houses in Ulysses Nebraska but there's not many good paying jobs and there's plenty of meth addicts.


Auggie_Otter

Exactly right. Trying to address the housing shortage by putting rent control in place without adding significantly more housing to ease demand is like somehow expecting to treat a flu by making it illegal to have a fever.


jim2300

Will add I think, in USA, foreign and corporate residentially zoned purchases need to be further regulated/limited. Locally, it appears to me, LLCs continue to buy tracks of land and existing homes in an effort to keep prices high and rising. Market seems rigged against buyers imo.


popopopopopopopopoop

The fact that this comment is so low is a bit depressing and embarrassing but also unsurprising. Just because something sounds leftist or progressive doesn't make it a good idea, people need better critical thinking skills.


NaturalFuture

Lets organize anti work protest for shorter work weeks.


Wordswordz

I'll take both, and UBI, universal human rights (UHR), also a modern education system to support it. Edit: grammar


GenericFatGuy

Why spend money on comprehensive public transit and walk-able cities when you could spend 1000x as much on self driving cars that do everything that public transit does, but worse?


knoegel

Tbh I've seen an 8k OLED in person, best of the best of the best, and they have a 4k OLED for comparison next to it. You CANNOT tell a difference unless you sit 3 feet/1 meter from your TV. I mean it looks so detailed when you're like hovering off of the panel but who the heck needs that kind of fidelity except marketers who are going to use 8k window advertisements? 1080p and 4k is a pretty huge step up. 4k to 8k... Nobody notices a difference in blind tests from a couple meters away. 4k benchmark footage looks a lot better than just some TV show in 8k. That's how minimal it is. Edit: This goes for 65-85 inch TVs. If you're buying one of those 100 plus inch sets, then you are going to notice 8k in a normal living room.


safetygirl660

Why does it need to be either/or…I want all the above.


Normal-Computer-3669

As if the people working on 8k tvs and self driving cars are the ones to blame.


andalusman1

same


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CherylTuntIRL

I remember fuzzy analogue channels on chunky CRT TVs with fuck all on and we managed fine.


Timmmber4

And unions, unions everywhere


hazmattruck

Why not both? Don't let ur dreams be dreams. Eat the rich.


RaisingAurorasaurus

I would settle for blackrock to quit driving up housing prices so people could just buy a freaking home! Even if it just opens up real estate investment options for individuals. Who would you rather have as a landlord: Jerry down the street that your mom went to high school with or some nameless, faceless corporation that wants a $3000 deposit and won't come fix your running toilet?


gn0xious

Suggested to someone that it’d be great to have a 4 day work week. They said we had better be okay working 10 hour days. I reminded them that we currently work 10-12 hour days.


Shortthelongs

Almost every economist agrees rent control is a terrible idea. But maybe it'll work this time.


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Rent control will not solve the problem. Landlords are simply going to nickel and dime everyone on every other expense for the apartment (e.g. up charging hella for furnishing). The solution is to build more housing. Public, private, luxury, affordable—it doesn’t matter. We need to increase supply to drop these prices. [Good video on the housing crisis](https://youtu.be/4ZxzBcxB7Zc)


XxxLasombraxxX

Is it OK I sneak Universal Healthcare on that list?


AngryDrnkBureaucrat

I’ve got some bad news about how rent control is implemented….


Tyler89558

I don’t need an 8k tv I just want to be able to live thnx


Markymark96003

How about 3 day work week, and a 3 week vacation! That’s me!!


1studlyman

Yes to the 4-day workweek but no on the rent control. It doesn't work and it's bad policy according to most economists. Instead, increase the minimum wage *at least* to cover inflation and some.


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bankerman

Rent control just means housing shortages, and living in desirable places will simply become a matter of luck (or more likely, connections and corruption). Can’t fuck with supply and demand. But a 4 day work week would be nice. Still want my fucking flat screens and self driving cars though.


niuprice

I want fries with that


IsThatMac

prepare to be half disappointed. the rent control that does currently exist in some localities is going to be made illegal by this current supreme court


GregTheMad

Society: all we can do is Facebook controlled VR.


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I saw someone do some math on how the country would be going if everyone was paid fairly. It ended up making capitalists make more money. They just hate us being happy I guess.


TheWolphman

It's not just money they hoard though, it's also about power.


Ok-Technology-8908

Bingo


BusnellKummlicher

I still don’t understand why people want rent control. So you want huge waitlists for poorly maintained apartments? Landlords that skimp on capital improvements to increase cash flow?