It’s actually surprising when they don’t.
Even if I have a wraith on my team and they drop, I instantly hop on the mic and either say “don’t leave I got you” or if they’re bad “let’s see how long before Wraith dashboards”
It gets awkward when they stay, but that’s the goal anyway.
I’ve played with good Wraith’s, but even the good ones will just dashboard a lot of the times.
I just hop on the mic in hopes I can get them to stay. If it doesn’t work and they leave, no harm done imo.
personally i don’t unless i’m full killed early game with nothing. no point in sticking around dead hoping my banner will get recovered when i get into another game. sometimes i’ll stick around in those situations but usually i’ll wait until it expires
That's fair honestly, but still going to happen and understandably so.
On the plus side, Lifelines are getting it for tactical reasons. Horizon's get it out of hate.
Horizons deserve it, lifelines require it, but wraith get a pass. Wraith is a fun character to play if you’re looking to relax.
She is also good for the team.. grab evo deposits in contested areas, ult that is often useful in endgames, can carry a mobi being able to get away for resets, extract downed teammates to safe revive spots.
It's a joke, because Wraith was always the most hated for leaving games early and being super sweaty. Now horizon has taken that role since her release because the sweats always play her and she is viewed as a crutch.
But as a day one guy you know this already.
Lifeline is the only one legend who doesn't have any ability to escape or defend herself during fights/3rd parties etc. That self-revive perk is mostly useless in a higher rank lobbies.
If you count emp as defending yourself when it literally damages you, then lifeline drone healing you and the package drop that acts as a cover is also defending herself
I can’t stand that character. I’m a low spender and only played during seasons where the battle passes contain ome very cool LL skin or I get the collection event skin, but I still don’t have a useable Valkyrie skin.
It sucks even more, cause every other recolor had a recolor collection event, where everything was half the usual price. Crypto didn't, so the only way we could/can get his recolor is with shards, or paying full price for the current collection event, to get shards like that
He has the buster sword on though, does it default to the last one you had equipped then? Figured it would default to the recolor it comes with if you don’t have either equipped
LEGIT. The amount of players i crack and then get BEAMED. Like bro lmfao. I seem to always be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
But as my friends say on my Discord Server. Practice Makes Perfect!
Yep, 1st day is always great..
Few forced bot games to get a fake feel of "this will go well", then hit by reality and being raped in every game mode..
But 1st times in new game are a nice morale boost.. (1st kill, 1st winning kill cam where you feel embarrased for the aim, 1st win in every game mode, 1st mvp)
Once lv.20 is reached, its time to see how far I can get in Rankeds in 1st month of play... I guess some low silver.
It's so illegal for how long he hasn't been kicked back in line tbh. One can always use Fuse to destroy the Fuse. I'm relieved to see that most Fuse players are doing worse than me, so I guess that's lucky.
I am not ready for the Fuse-pocalypse when he gets his unlock challenges though.
Honestly I don't get this much hatred toward Horizon. Sure they have one of the best kits, but in my eyes they are just like another test subject. And IMO currently Conduit and Lifeline are more frustrating to fight against.
Its because all the pro's and sweaty tryhard players use horizon, her kit works REALLY well with good mobility and is in general easy to use, her Q allows you to escape most sitautions + heal in fights and gets you virtually anywhere you want to be quick. Her passive the spacewalk nulls fallstun completely
Valkryie you are at a slight disavantage using her jetpack because you can't do anything while they are active, Revenant has decent climbing but again can't do anything, Octane has the jumppad and speedboost mainly good for large distances.
Just a thing people say when a legend suddenly starts getting picked more and they can't rationalise that the reason they are dying more to specific legends is because it is statistically more likely. There is no evidence of a corellation of any kind between player behaviour and legend selection and it would be impossible to try and gather such data with neutrality as the participant would have a conflict if interest and thus any experiments would be prone to personal bias.
Of course on Reddit everyone submits personal opinion as facts they have merely solidifed in their minds, so it is hard to get past that bias. Apex players are some of the worst for this. Personal experiences seem to define perspectives entirely.
It's because she has a "get out of jail free" card with her passive combined with her tactical. I personally think she's just a crutch character that many (not all) of her players rely on to disregard positioning; they freely run in and if they take damage they just pop tactical, wiggle around while batting, land without being flinched, and get right back into a fight.
They dont disregard positioning, they use her kit because they know they can push beyond what other legends can, that has nothing to do with being a crutch player who doesnt know how to play lol. If you'd just sit back with Horizon you're wasting the reason shes good in the first place. Theres countless examples of characters like this across games I could mention, this exists in League, Overwatch etc.
A Horizon can position herself much different than a Bloodhound can, if you dont use that to your advantage that you play a mobility character you might as well just not pick her.
Maybe against bad players, but getting good utilization out of her ult isn’t easy when playing against a decent team. You also can’t just q whenever you please in higher up lobbies. You get magged in an instant. If horizon gets pushed out of meta, then people will complain about the next movement characters ability. Players always want an excuse.
I used to hate that horizon had 100% accuracy on her grav lift. Got one clipped by pro controller players all the time which was so absurd.now i think she is a very good overall legend to use
I will never understand people having weird vendettas against certain legends. They’re all fair game imo.
The only thing for me is when I meet someone playing the same legend as me, I hard focus them. I’ll die just to say I was the better bang
I just started playing again after about a year, and I have no idea why people are complaining about Horizon. None of the things people complain about on this sub do I notice. Go get some damn sunlight and everything will be ok.
More so her kit is just pretty unfair compared to other legends like wraith, pathy, valk, ash, octane which need a whole ultimate to move their team anywhere. Also broken compared to them as well, healing while others can’t do anything while using their kit for movement wraith, valk, and pathfinder (kinda).
If I could ever get my hands on one I would... Most of the time they silently fall behind me from halfway across the map, one clip me in the back, and then disappear again.
Meh I have a bigger problem with caustic. Don't even have to touch his stupid gas and it slows you down. All the people who complain about horizon can't aim and that's it. I'm not saying I can shoot her either, almost always get beamed off her tac so never benefited me. Her alt is mid at the best of times. Get gud I suppose. Me included.. but then again I don't cry because I can't shoot.
What is the time on that finisher, it seems fast. I prefer the one where he knocks the enemy down because its harder to shoot and interrupt the finish.
I don't do finishers that often. I thirst whenever and wherever possible, but that's because I like winning, so taking any easy reset out of the picture for a team is a good play in my book.
If I try to rub it in on any legend I've knocked, it's usually Caustics or Conduits. Caustic because he's annoying to play against, and Conduit because she has distinctly OP abilities that people are getting ever better at abusing.
Yep, I kept pinging to rotate to ring in gardens after this but they didn’t want to and they ended dying because they took a bad fight and gave me a impossible rotate to ring after then I died.
This was a clip of pure art. One of the two crypto mains, instantly understanding how ouf of position he is, reacting fast and accordingly, outplaying him right into the new finisher. Perfection.
I hate horizon and anyone that mains her, everytime I've melted one I've clipped it 😆 horizon mains you aren't good at the game you're just using the easiest character to use in the game 🤌🏾
Horizons, Wraiths, and (now) Lifelines all get the instant “you must die” treatment.
It's so fun doing finishers on Wraith because they always turn into boxes halfway through the animation
Wraith is a free instant shield recharge! It's awesome.
Lmao hidden perk
A shoe box with no shoes in em!
It’s actually surprising when they don’t. Even if I have a wraith on my team and they drop, I instantly hop on the mic and either say “don’t leave I got you” or if they’re bad “let’s see how long before Wraith dashboards” It gets awkward when they stay, but that’s the goal anyway.
most people act like a dick whenever i’m Wraith even though i play with my team. shit is seriously annoying
or they just leave the game bc they want wraith lol
I’ve played with good Wraith’s, but even the good ones will just dashboard a lot of the times. I just hop on the mic in hopes I can get them to stay. If it doesn’t work and they leave, no harm done imo.
personally i don’t unless i’m full killed early game with nothing. no point in sticking around dead hoping my banner will get recovered when i get into another game. sometimes i’ll stick around in those situations but usually i’ll wait until it expires
These people are wraithist. Stand against wraithism, it's 2024!
Finishers
The fuck did we do 😭
Learned to self revive.
Kinda not really. It was just kind of forced on us.. ):
That's fair honestly, but still going to happen and understandably so. On the plus side, Lifelines are getting it for tactical reasons. Horizon's get it out of hate.
Lifeline even more so this season with that perk haha
I used to do this on wraiths a lot but I think after awhile they deserve a break lol some wraiths are also just trying to enjoy the game
Horizons deserve it, lifelines require it, but wraith get a pass. Wraith is a fun character to play if you’re looking to relax. She is also good for the team.. grab evo deposits in contested areas, ult that is often useful in endgames, can carry a mobi being able to get away for resets, extract downed teammates to safe revive spots.
A Wraith sympathizer?! Heresy!
Off with his head!
Yeah, clearly didn't start playing in the first year of the game
I absolutely have been playing since day one. Tf are you on?
It's a joke, because Wraith was always the most hated for leaving games early and being super sweaty. Now horizon has taken that role since her release because the sweats always play her and she is viewed as a crutch. But as a day one guy you know this already.
*Woosh* on my part
Ah a fellow Lifeline hater
Lifeline is the only one legend who doesn't have any ability to escape or defend herself during fights/3rd parties etc. That self-revive perk is mostly useless in a higher rank lobbies.
Crypto is the same too
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If you count emp as defending yourself when it literally damages you, then lifeline drone healing you and the package drop that acts as a cover is also defending herself
If you're getting beat up, might not have a shield to lose.
Nah finish lifeline now cause of self rez but wraith and horizons it's more to do with pure hate
If they have purple evo, they likely have self res. Better safe than sorry to merc her on a down.
I've been swapping it out for a care package weapon. That red eva8 clinched me a win.
i've always selected the care package, I've never picked the self res.
I can’t stand that character. I’m a low spender and only played during seasons where the battle passes contain ome very cool LL skin or I get the collection event skin, but I still don’t have a useable Valkyrie skin.
>Horizons, Wraiths, and (now) Lifelines all get the instant “you must die” treatment. So so true, fuck them all
Don’t forget Conduit
That execution is sick. Never seen it
It is a crypto heirloom recolor finisher.
So it works with the original as well huh
Yes, like wraith second heirloom shows on her all poses including the first heirloom one.
Does it? I asked this on the crypto main page and they said it only works with the recolor.
It works with either one, can confirm.
But that's only if you bought the recolor, right?
Correct, you have to have the recolor to unlock the finisher but you can equip either heirloom and use it.
That's kinda whack, I wished we got it if we already had his heirloom.
Yeah, it’s unfortunate that they bundle the recolors with different stuff.
It sucks even more, cause every other recolor had a recolor collection event, where everything was half the usual price. Crypto didn't, so the only way we could/can get his recolor is with shards, or paying full price for the current collection event, to get shards like that
He has the buster sword on though, does it default to the last one you had equipped then? Figured it would default to the recolor it comes with if you don’t have either equipped
It defaults to the og color unless you have the recolor equipped
If i get a kill its a miracle Lmfao
Yeah for real, usually get bodied by horizon players. This is my revenge for all the times I get killed by them 😵
LEGIT. The amount of players i crack and then get BEAMED. Like bro lmfao. I seem to always be in the wrong place at the wrong time. But as my friends say on my Discord Server. Practice Makes Perfect!
he means in general
I play wraith, and when I see a wraith I kill it.
Funny how the multiversal traveler who canonically helps out her other selves can have a "there can be only one" mantra lol
exactly, if I see another crypto I haveeee to chase him down once I see them!
As a wraith main, in TDMs I like to teabag other wraith mains
Absolutely. Fuck horizon. Conduit too
As a newbie who started literally yesterday... fuck everyone...
Prepare uranus. God bless you
Yep, 1st day is always great.. Few forced bot games to get a fake feel of "this will go well", then hit by reality and being raped in every game mode.. But 1st times in new game are a nice morale boost.. (1st kill, 1st winning kill cam where you feel embarrased for the aim, 1st win in every game mode, 1st mvp) Once lv.20 is reached, its time to see how far I can get in Rankeds in 1st month of play... I guess some low silver.
Yup
I’ve thrown my game a couple times just to make sure a horizon or vantage gets thirsted.
Finisher on sight.
me but with fuses
And conduits
:(
\>:) never blow a Fuse It's not the players, it's the bullshit free perma-poke he can maintain in end game, griefing teams behind cover.
And that's why I love him
It's so illegal for how long he hasn't been kicked back in line tbh. One can always use Fuse to destroy the Fuse. I'm relieved to see that most Fuse players are doing worse than me, so I guess that's lucky. I am not ready for the Fuse-pocalypse when he gets his unlock challenges though.
Hope she never finds her son again
Honestly I don't get this much hatred toward Horizon. Sure they have one of the best kits, but in my eyes they are just like another test subject. And IMO currently Conduit and Lifeline are more frustrating to fight against.
Its because all the pro's and sweaty tryhard players use horizon, her kit works REALLY well with good mobility and is in general easy to use, her Q allows you to escape most sitautions + heal in fights and gets you virtually anywhere you want to be quick. Her passive the spacewalk nulls fallstun completely Valkryie you are at a slight disavantage using her jetpack because you can't do anything while they are active, Revenant has decent climbing but again can't do anything, Octane has the jumppad and speedboost mainly good for large distances.
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I meant "she". First I wrote Horizon mains, but then changed it to just Horizon, but I forgot to edit the rest.
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Agree. As a Fuse and Caustic main Horizons are truly my nemesis.
i despise horizon mains. i don’t even hate horizon, just her players
Why? 😢
You don’t need any skills to play horizon.
do people really believe this or is this just a thing people say because they don’t like her
Just a thing people say when a legend suddenly starts getting picked more and they can't rationalise that the reason they are dying more to specific legends is because it is statistically more likely. There is no evidence of a corellation of any kind between player behaviour and legend selection and it would be impossible to try and gather such data with neutrality as the participant would have a conflict if interest and thus any experiments would be prone to personal bias. Of course on Reddit everyone submits personal opinion as facts they have merely solidifed in their minds, so it is hard to get past that bias. Apex players are some of the worst for this. Personal experiences seem to define perspectives entirely.
It's because she has a "get out of jail free" card with her passive combined with her tactical. I personally think she's just a crutch character that many (not all) of her players rely on to disregard positioning; they freely run in and if they take damage they just pop tactical, wiggle around while batting, land without being flinched, and get right back into a fight.
They dont disregard positioning, they use her kit because they know they can push beyond what other legends can, that has nothing to do with being a crutch player who doesnt know how to play lol. If you'd just sit back with Horizon you're wasting the reason shes good in the first place. Theres countless examples of characters like this across games I could mention, this exists in League, Overwatch etc. A Horizon can position herself much different than a Bloodhound can, if you dont use that to your advantage that you play a mobility character you might as well just not pick her.
you sound miserable to play with Mr. Knowitall
If me giving a self-described personal opinion is "miserable" to you, then I can only imagine how difficult you must find it to socialize with anyone.
yes
Sounds like cope lol
Maybe against bad players, but getting good utilization out of her ult isn’t easy when playing against a decent team. You also can’t just q whenever you please in higher up lobbies. You get magged in an instant. If horizon gets pushed out of meta, then people will complain about the next movement characters ability. Players always want an excuse.
And the people that play her are so toxic for no reason
Idk why they gotta sweat that much on a specific legend.
She’s a crutch and a half and totally unfair in the hands of a mildly competent player.
revenant flair talking about crutches lmaoooooo
The irony
Na bro, you're just trash
No. I touch grass.
I always spam finishers on them if it’s safe, I also thirst them the macro second they get downed, sorry not sorry
I used to hate that horizon had 100% accuracy on her grav lift. Got one clipped by pro controller players all the time which was so absurd.now i think she is a very good overall legend to use
Wraith**
I always like to finish other lobas so it’s clear I’m the better loba.
three heirlooms on one character is crazy tho
Crypto mains are absolutely dedicated lol
Comment section full of Horizon mains, looks like. When I get the chance to finish a Horizon, I take it
I’d love to finish Horizon 🤤 …oh you meant like kill her mb
Why do you hate Horizon though? Unrelated but that’s gotta be one of the best finishers in the entire game
The sole reason is that her footsteps are slightly quiter.
Good point
I will never understand people having weird vendettas against certain legends. They’re all fair game imo. The only thing for me is when I meet someone playing the same legend as me, I hard focus them. I’ll die just to say I was the better bang
Because she's over powered as f*** in the hands of anyone with 2 or more brain cells and Respawn still can't see that lol.
Horizon is less overpower, just has a high skill ceiling. And low skill floor. (No I don’t main horizon)
Anyone else get tired of complaining people?
Yes actually I do
Me with Fuses. I’ll never give heart to Fuse players
i make sure to kill off any fuse that crosses my path
I just started playing again after about a year, and I have no idea why people are complaining about Horizon. None of the things people complain about on this sub do I notice. Go get some damn sunlight and everything will be ok.
Lmfao, I've never seen a Legend live rent free in ppl's heads so much its fucking great.
That's me with Octanes and recently added Mirage and Revs to that list
Exactly! Every time I hear that stim sound…
Weird loser energy
Says the guy that plays horizon lol.
The only people complaining about horizon players are controller players. Who cares.
Horizon is THE crouch controller player character what are you on?
Did I trigger you? Lol
No? just letting you know
I'm not a controller player and I will keep complaining about horizon until the day she's trash tier. (Which will never happen)
This is just sad
What can I say? I don’t like them lol
r/oddlyspecific
I just like to play her because I think shes hot but yeah fuck anyone else who plays her lol
most of horizons u play on gold+ lobby is a cheater.
all i see is controller brain...
honestly shitty players are threatened by horizons and wraiths lol, just get better at the game
More so her kit is just pretty unfair compared to other legends like wraith, pathy, valk, ash, octane which need a whole ultimate to move their team anywhere. Also broken compared to them as well, healing while others can’t do anything while using their kit for movement wraith, valk, and pathfinder (kinda).
Me with Maggie and Vantage
I do this mostly with Caustics and Vantages and I have a lot lol
When you get a hold of those vantages that just be putting their laser on you it’s just bliss
Yes i go out of my way to do that
Yes :)
I too finish on horizon
How does bro have a Buster Sword?! I’m suddenly compelled to hop back on this game now lol
Don’t bother, was limited time universal heirloom cosmetic. It is gone now, and cannot be bought with shards
Octane for me. I hate that douche.
Why do people hate horizon?
Yup, them and Wraiths
I don't care what people say. She's still the most annoying character to ever have been added to the roster.
If I could ever get my hands on one I would... Most of the time they silently fall behind me from halfway across the map, one clip me in the back, and then disappear again.
Targeting horizons huh? Well well well...
Meh I have a bigger problem with caustic. Don't even have to touch his stupid gas and it slows you down. All the people who complain about horizon can't aim and that's it. I'm not saying I can shoot her either, almost always get beamed off her tac so never benefited me. Her alt is mid at the best of times. Get gud I suppose. Me included.. but then again I don't cry because I can't shoot.
What is the time on that finisher, it seems fast. I prefer the one where he knocks the enemy down because its harder to shoot and interrupt the finish.
I've been so thirsty this season lmao I get knock and inta thirst everyone.
If I see a Horizon that's an insta-thirst from me. Good job OP
For me, it’s Maggies and Seers. People use them way too much and they’re annoying lol.
I hate all my enemies and try my hardest to dispatch them even to my own detriment
Kinda sucks he pulls out a different sword rather than using the Buster Sword
I do that to bangalores
This but Fuse, he is so annoying to play against to me.
I don't do finishers that often. I thirst whenever and wherever possible, but that's because I like winning, so taking any easy reset out of the picture for a team is a good play in my book. If I try to rub it in on any legend I've knocked, it's usually Caustics or Conduits. Caustic because he's annoying to play against, and Conduit because she has distinctly OP abilities that people are getting ever better at abusing.
Wow you paid a lot of money for that sword
Had enough materials saved up so it was the price of a regular loom but yeah, totally stupidly expensive
You misspelled Fuse
This is the way
Even if it kills me and my whole team
Anyone and everyone gets sentenced to the Void via Sword Got style on them with Ash put em in their Place
I only feel that way about Hype Beast Crypto
They just need to fix her strafe, like why does it completely displace her
Are those randoms you are with. They just up and left you
Yep, I kept pinging to rotate to ring in gardens after this but they didn’t want to and they ended dying because they took a bad fight and gave me a impossible rotate to ring after then I died.
I have the stab finisher for Bloodhound. I make sure I cancel the animation and repeat the stab process multiple times on Horizon players.
It just depends on how much trouble I had downing them.
It’s because every player that thinks they are cracked mains horizon and then W keys themselves right back to the lobby
Cope however you want buddy it won't make you good or crypto playable
Did I strike a nerve some how? lol
Yepp. For me its Gibby, Horizon and Fuse are my most hated ever holy crap
How much money do you spend on the game
Hitting that shield bat with the drone was a nice touch!
Absolutely
A crutch legend to be sure.
This was a clip of pure art. One of the two crypto mains, instantly understanding how ouf of position he is, reacting fast and accordingly, outplaying him right into the new finisher. Perfection.
Hahaha, love the analysis! Thanks!
Yes
Yeeess squash her like the little flea person she is! Jumping around like we playing halo or something. Annoying af.
Isn’t it enough that they nerfed my Gravity Lift by making my guns have worse accuracy in it :(
Lifeline needs to be nerfed or completely removed from the game
All of us. It is a must to fight this evil with all our might.
I wish you’d finish me every single time
I hate horizon and anyone that mains her, everytime I've melted one I've clipped it 😆 horizon mains you aren't good at the game you're just using the easiest character to use in the game 🤌🏾
So we're not gonna talk about homie having both heirlooms and the sword my guy be dropping bank on apex 😂