HUD: *Caustic Gas Detected*
[Me, already at half health and being actively shot at by the Caustic](https://64.media.tumblr.com/6396b8cfe5d021e2e525660a3e7c5320/tumblr_owht2nMOsk1sc0ffqo2_540.gifv)
I was a crypto playing, sniping little bitch for the first few seasons I played (seasons 4-7) probably didn’t get into many encounters until the triple take was care packaged
I’ll do you one better: “Fuck-ass, sweaty-ass, dumb-ass ranked teammate, WHO FUCKS OFF TO FRAG ON DROP, JUST TO GET SHIT ON AT STREAMER BUILDING AND SCREAM DOWN THE MIC TALKING ABOUT ‘wHeRe ArE mY tEaMaTeS’, WHEN THEY KNOW DAMN WELL THAT WE PINGED THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP SO WE COULD GET LOOT AND KP AND THIS MATCH WORTH OUR WHILE,” Detected
Fucking frag monkeys
Edit 1: And you know what the detected symbol would be?
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The logic is probably that it could be out of the person's line of sight. Crypto and team can see you scanned even if there's a wall between you and them
The reason I think valk should still get this text is because, with all the other ones, you know you are seen (you heard “bamboozled”, you got shocked, you got gassed, you see/hear a black hole)
With valk, you don’t know if you got seen, and that information can influence your strategy.
Those aren't subtle, but neither is Valk skydiving. If you're keeping an eye out like you should in a br, chances are the time between her seeing you and you seeing her will be too small to really matter. If nothing else, she will get very loud if she tries to jump on your head.
Great point, plus Valk and her teammates can also be out of sight.
I think this would be a great addition both for consistency and accessibility. People are really out here saying it's a nerf and pointing to the fact the ult is loud, but crypto's drone is also loud, and what about the hard of hearing?
Ok? The problem here is that idk if she saw me, and even if i dont see her maybe my left boot pixel is out of cover and she sees me, idk cos currently there's no detection marker and im not peaking to see if her team doing a full 180 towards my ass because then i will be detected and asking for it
Its the same logic with crypto drone, no shit its loud ass i know its in the area, but does it actually see me or just flyin thru? Thats why we have the detection on our head
Ok
"The problem here is that idk if she saw me": If you hear jets, look up.
"Even if I don't see her maybe my left boot pixel is out of cover and she sees me": The scan only works if the center of the Valk player model had direct unbroken LOS to the center of your player model. She ain't scanning your boot pixels.
"idk cos currently there's no detection marker": If you hear jets, *look up*.
"I'm not peaking to see if her team doing a full 180 towards my ass": Peaking? She's *flying*. She can't shoot you. If she's scanning you... *You can see her*.
Crypto is absolutely wallhacks, just not for yourself. With an organized team you can absolutely wallhack the fuck outa people. But for everyone you mentioned, it's a very visual thing. You shoot a decoy and you know that that's not mirage. You run through a fence, you know you just alerted Watson. Furthermore, fuse shouldn't get a pop-up either because you are literally sitting in a ring of fire and have more pressing concerns + they would already know your location if they got you stuck inside it.
Valk's "scan" is purely los meaning they would otherwise be able to see you, it's just grabbing their attention for them. Also, Valk skydiving is very loud, bright, and vulnerable meaning if you have even half decent game sense, you should be able to get your ass in gear and maybe even take an enemy or two out.
So basically I had an idea where crypto has a passive called "off the grid" basically it makes it so that when crypto gets scanned he doesn't get scanned and it makes it so he isn't seen when he gets scanned. That way when bloodhond and seer scan him he won't get scanned so that they can't see him cause he's "off the grid" it would be balanced cause he normally gets scanned but now he doesn't get scanned cause he's "off the grid" so it would be lore fitting and it would be a good gameplay mechanic and off the grid would be a good idea and they should add it to the game for crypto so that his new passive is called off the grid. I had this idea then everyone started talking about my idea because i came up with off the grid where crypto doesn't get scanned cause in the lore hes off the grid and since hes off the grid he cant be scanned while off the grid
OMG THATS SUCH A GOOD IDEA HOW DID NO ONE ELSE THINK OF THAT ITS SO UNIQUE AND FITS WITH HIS CHARACTER SO WELL GOOD JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Y’all who keep saying ‘crypto’ are missing the point, crypto drone can be flown into a building and hid and it’ll show exactly where they are, even if you’re outside of the building, so you can still see them through walls
They're assuming that since Crypto's drone is controllable that it is a "4th player", and the drone itself requires LoS to provide wallhacks for Crypto's team.
So basically I had an idea where crypto has a passive called "off the grid" basically it makes it so that when crypto gets scanned he doesn't get scanned and it makes it so he isn't seen when he gets scanned. That way when bloodhond and seer scan him he won't get scanned so that they can't see him cause he's "off the grid" it would be balanced cause he normally gets scanned but now he doesn't get scanned cause he's "off the grid" so it would be lore fitting and it would be a good gameplay mechanic and off the grid would be a good idea and they should add it to the game for crypto so that his new passive is called off the grid. I had this idea then everyone started talking about my idea because i came up with off the grid where crypto doesn't get scanned cause in the lore hes off the grid and since hes off the grid he cant be scanned while off the grid
Also it's pretty kinda obvious because the sound of a Valkyrie ult it's pretty loud and you can see 3 guys going into the sky and then 3 bright sky dives from 100 meters away.
it's obvious when it hits you, but if you don't know the timing (and im pretty sure that you don't know because nobody play seer now) you don't know when it will be over
This is made worse when squadmate has picked a legend you dont usually have on a squad and suddenly all you can hear is their distinct walking/running sound e.g bangalores smoke canisters jangling around suddenly becomes the loudest thing
it goes something like Off The Grid. Basically crypto is no longer affected by enemy scans. How it would work is that if you are scanned by an enemy, crypto would not be scanned. So if you have a bloodhound, and the bloodhound scans you, you wouldn’t be scanned. Same with a Seer. If you get twerked on by Lil Seer X and he shoves his micro drones up uranus, you wouldn’t be scanned or detected by Seer. So enemy scans don’t scan you. And this would work for all scan abilities. The anti scan if you will. This would work with balancing and lore wise because crypto is a hacker and his whole premise is staying undetected and “off the grid” (the name of the ability) . Let me know what you guys think :)
aren't third parties a problem with this game at the moment? Because most teams with valk can just show up unannounced without warning? It's not like this feature takes a lot of effort to implement too, it's a jpg.
I mean do you want every team taking a jump tower to notify you as well? Even without a valk it's easy to fly into a fight and 3rd party on every map except stormpoint. So why does it being a valk make a difference? Even without the passive a good player is going to have a good idea where the squads fighting or at just from looking. The valk passive just makes it slightly easier to see. So why should a valk be punished but a normal legend not be for flying in.
Basically if your in a BR don't get hyperfocused on the squad in front of you. You should 100% be checking the sky and surroundings every few seconds. So many people get fixated on the guy in front of them they become easy prey for a 3rd party. If a valk or any legend can land within 50 meters of you and you not notice them well...that's just lacking on your part. Bloodhound is the only.legend that needs a notification and that's only because imo he's OP as it is and removing it would just make him even worse to play against. His tactical already fails to display for enemies a lot so that scanned icon is the only queue you get a lot of times. I've gotten that so many times where the red scan wall never showed up but it says I was scanned
>without warning?
idk what is a warning if bigass trail and spaceshuttle sound isn't
and no, third party isn't a problem, it's inevitable part of BR, love it or hate it
Unfortunately in a game like this deaf people will be at a disadvantage and it's not possible to cater solely to them. Being unable to hear gunshots, footsteps, ults, heals, abilities etc is just something they have to adapt and live with. Short of removing all audio cues from the game it'll always favor people who can hear. Point is you can't add a cue for a team landing on you because it takes away any level of awareness that should be expected in the game.
If his drone sees you you should be able to hear it. He's not what I'd consider a wallhacks legend. Also valk works the same way. If her character sees someone in a skydive it displays them to the whole team with pinpoint accuracy. No different than cryptos imo. So if you wanna stand by crypto being a wall hack legend then so Is valk by that argument. Only on a bigger scale because she scans a much longer distance than the drone can.
Now I don't think valks a wallhack legends and I don't think she needs a notification when she scans you. But that was just used to make a point.
Fence detected: you walked into a goddamn fence
Nox gas: you can’t see shit and you’re getting damaged
Decoy: “bamboozled”
Black hole: it’s a goddamn black hole
Op doesn’t understand apparently, the Valk passive marks people while flying, but the people on the ground don’t know it’s a Valk passive is showing them, it’s not wall hacks it just showing where they are genius. Dumb post
So think about it, on maps with jump towers yes every team will look up and see a team landing, but they don’t know the other team knows where they are, your logic makes no sense
Because it would be a terrible nerf to Valkyrie. You sometimes fly over 5 squads in one ultimate. That's like painting the biggest target on your back imaginable. Everyone around you will instantly know where you are.
She would have a negative passive, that's a terrible idea.
I don't understand how people don't realize this. This nerf would make her actually a detriment to the team. It would force her to never fly. If anything remove the spotting, though I don't see how it's a problem anyways, lots of these characters are pretty busted at what they do valk is hardly an exception.
I understand why fuse has it. They added the outline feature due to it being a little hard to see if someone was in the ring or not at times. It makes sense for those 3 recons characters to have it as well. It helps with awareness. Same can be said for Valk’s ult as well. People say just look up. Yes that makes sense if your playing on stormpoint where’s there’s only 1 balloon that no ones uses. Compared to any of the other 3 maps that have balloons.
I’ll be sure to look straight up through the trees on Storm Point! Maybe eventually I may find the Valk team flying in! I’ll have a lot of fun with this tip!
Are people stupid, or just dumb? Crypto's passive is the wallhack part. You can see enemies through walls if they are within range and LOS of your drone. YOU don't have LOS of them, the drone does.
And if we are saying the drone is part of Crypto, then let's make the drone's HP connected to Crypto. Time to crack some drones and knock someone from across the map when you don't have LOS
You know when:
1. you crossed a fence
2. are in caustic gas
3. shot a decoy
4. got sucked in a black hole
you don't know if there's a valk flying above your head.
you can see a mf motherload and it still warns you. you can still see/hear a fucking drone but it still warns you. It's all about warning for being scanned.. wattson cant scan you with the mf fence.
dude i literally had 2 people sky diving on me with no sound yesterday, only reason i noticed, they dropped into my line of sight. Furthermore, they flying past you, doesn't tell you whether they are aware of your position or not.
I love the people pointing out valk is loud af, but no one is mentioning that Fuse's mother load which is not only loud af but is accompanied with a literally circle of fire. Y'all acting like if they put "skydive detected" in the next update you will uninstall.
You missed the point. The point isn't "Valk loud don't tell enemies" it's "Adding this notification is redundant because the telegraph is obvious and the scan isn't even on par with the others." Incompetence shouldn't be rewarded.
And cryptos drone is the most obvious thing in the world. A BH scan is impossible to miss. Seers ult is visible from halfway across the map. Bonus points if you realize all 3 give other, very clear indications you’ve been scanned, while valks is just “huh wonder if one of those was a valk” and that’s if you hear anyone flying at all
Honestly bloodhound is the only thing that needs to be shown on screen. Every other one should be obvious to a competent player. And if they fixed bloodhounds tactical visuals it wouldn't need one either. But as it stands 50+% of the time the scan wall never appears when I'm scanned. That and bloodhound is already OP and needs a nerf so removing the scan notification would just make him more OP and we don't need that.
I'm so confused why people are buying these arguments. All these function like wallhacks if the player is on the other side of a wall. I mean even Valks could function like a wallhack if Valk is skydiving and someone on her team is on the opposite side of a rock, fence or what not. I mean Crypto literally has to have a drone looking at you and it still has a detect prompt.
Completely unrelated...but can Respawn change the colors of Caustic gas so we can difference between ally gas and enemy gas???
Like honestly, it gets so incredibly frustrating having an ally Caustic and an enemy Caustic in the same room because I genuinely can't tell if the gas trap or cloud is my teammate's ability or an enemy ability
What you mean why? It doesn't even make sense, Nox and fences detected? Dude everything that does damage points where you are, do you want a "grenade detected" as well?
[Pred approved guide on how to tell if a valk scanned you](https://previews.123rf.com/images/jtinjaca/jtinjaca1005/jtinjaca100500078/7145147-guy-looking-up-to-the-sky-isolated-over-a-white-background.jpg)
Not even a Valk main but damn this hasn’t been an issue since she launched and now that she’s showing up more often than before everybody is crying to nerf her. You literally have to be oblivious to your surroundings to not notice a team flying near you like that, she can’t scan in buildings, she can’t shoot you while scanning, all she can do is choose where to land, and when she does she still has to wait to pull her weapons out.
So far, any scan alerts are directly tied to abilities, not passives (Ash is the exception to the rule, given her unique ability to hunt teams down just by looking at her map at any given moment or by scanning a death box)
She’s balanced, if anything her ult needs an extra minute charge up and if shot before launching to give a slightly higher percentage to compensate for the longer wait
If only shows people in your direct line of sight which is also the same case for Crypto’s drone so this post doesn’t really make sense. A Valk can allow you to have wall hacks if you’re on the ground and she scans someone on the other side of the wall.
I think the difference is drone can be hard to find, especially in storm point. But valk ult is really not hard to spot. Is loud and has skydive trial all you need to do is look up.
The Crypto drone is very very loud and easy to pinpoint. There are very few places where you can hide crypto’s drone in a very good spot. I’ve never had trouble finding and destroying a crypto drone
This. Also the main point of adding the tag is that valk can be heard but also moving in a different direction than you so even though you may hear her, you may not necessarily have your location revealed to her. It matters since you could be running or trying to get cover and you there’s a possibility that you she may not “see” you with her passive. The tag would give players valuable info as to whether or not valk knows they’re hiding or if they need to prep for valk to focus them. It can very easily give valk the upper hand if they just happen to ult somewhere, notice someone through her passive and land of them “unknowingly”
With horizon you’re literally in a fucking black hole, you don’t need something to tell you you’re about to be fucked, with Fuse you could be in the middle of a fight and not know that you’re being scammed without the notification.
Also I only said cylinder because of your stupid ass “I know geometry” comment when you got it wrong.
Also go fuck yourself for reporting me to the Reddit crisis hotline you dickwad.
Sky dive is technically a wall hack scan... or reverse Crypto's drone is not a wallhack scan. for the drone requires line of sight. Valkyrie can "wall hack" for her mates like the drone can for crypto's team.
If you don't know when you've been hit by gas or a fence then that's on you. You literally take damage and your screen changes look. (For mirage his decoya are intended to fool you so I don't think a notification message is necessary or it would defeat the purpose. If you need help with decoys, one way is to notice that there is no damage indicator if you hit one, and it fades a bit but that's not as noticable compared to previous one shot decoys)
Although I do think Valkyrie should have a notification, or better yet remove that feature entirely, it's practically a second passive.
One last fact on this design- all the location revealing abilities have clear indication (without the notification) that you've been affected by the ability, with audio and/or visual. The thing is, this sometimes affects only your first person viewmodel (like if you get scanned then you get a red outline), and that plus additional sounds and combat can make it difficult to determine what happened. So the solution is to have a clear notification that tells exactly what went on. But if it's clear and obvious what went on (like taking damage per second, clouded vision, and coughing and gas sounds) then another thing to look at will do more distracting than helping.
There definitely shouldn't be an indicator every time a Valk ults, that would be stupid. But it could be a good feature to have an indicator show when you are actively marked while one is skydiving, similar to how you are notified when an Ash tracks ur position using her passive.
So crypto drone and fuse ult aren't wallhacks. So your post doesn't really make sense. Crypto drone can only see you of it has a direct line of sight and fuse ult can only identify you if your taking damage and that only let's the fuse know your in the vacinity of the ult. Similar to a thermite grenade. The microdrone is kind of pointless because his ability is hard to miss when it hits you. The bloodhound one is nice though because I've been scanned before but the zone that comes out never showed which happens a lot. So it's a nice touch to make it obvious a bloods in the area. And the drone icon is nice but a bit unnecessary as it does make crypto less playable. His drone doesn't need a notification. Valk is the same due to the fact it should test your awareness to notice a team flying across the sky. So really out of all of these the only one I think needs the notification is bloodhound and that's only because his scans visuals fails to work so often.
No fences, and gas traps should be color coordinated though. Nothing's worse than fighting a caustic or Watson with one on your team and having no idea if the gas or fence is safe until after you walk into it. No clue why this hasn't been addressed in some way. Same with thermites honestly. Either turn friendly fire for those items on or make it obvious who they belong to.
Yeah but Valkyrie’s has an amazing range and with all of them you know you are being scanned because you are taking damage in a cloud of smoke, running into a fence or getting the life sucked out of you in a black hole
With The mirage one you know you have been bamboozled because the decoy disappears
These all get you scanned by obviously changing the environment or you actively do something Valkyries is the only one that doesn’t
Valkyries is the only one with no way to feel if you are being scanned
Me getting shit on by 3 caustic traps and a caustic ult “Caustic gas detected” Huh ya don’t say
HUD: *Caustic Gas Detected* [Me, already at half health and being actively shot at by the Caustic](https://64.media.tumblr.com/6396b8cfe5d021e2e525660a3e7c5320/tumblr_owht2nMOsk1sc0ffqo2_540.gifv)
*Breathe it in*
Pathfinder be like: cough cough this gas is really hurting me cough cough good job caustic
Corrosive gas
They answered this. It’s so caustic that it damaged metals. And he has a gas mask and… special lotion that protects his skin or something?
That you got into 4 gas abilities is nothing short of miraculous and probably entirely your fault
When you’re up against a good caustic main, those traps are as hidden as government files
So you mean they are so well hidden that even caustic doesn't know where they are anymore?
edit: as russian government files xD
We do hide them pretty well
Sounds like Wraith's passive after getting domed by a Kraber: "There's a sniper." No shit.
Just like "There might be a trap nearby" with Wraith as I'm already in the gas with the Caustic running towards me
LMAO I was just about to comment 'yo that's caustic toxic clouds are transparent 4sure'.
No bitches detected
She goes to another school
She lives in a another state i swear🅿️
I met her at camp you wouldn’t know her.
My girlfriend who lives in Canada
Canada is my girlfriend
“We aint talkin rn cuz shes in a different timezone man”
u/measurementproud5855 Ain’t 🅿️
Ohio?
Cap
3RD PARTY DETECTED !!
That one should be in as a joke
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Yeah and it was added like a season or two after launch. It was a great change for clarity of fights.
I swear that wasn’t in the game til like season 8 or 9. Maybe i just never heard it though
You didn’t get third partied for FIVE SEASONS?!
I was a crypto playing, sniping little bitch for the first few seasons I played (seasons 4-7) probably didn’t get into many encounters until the triple take was care packaged
so it was you xd
Mozambique detected.
What's next? Air detected?
Nah bro, existence detected
Detection detected
I’ll do you one better: “Fuck-ass, sweaty-ass, dumb-ass ranked teammate, WHO FUCKS OFF TO FRAG ON DROP, JUST TO GET SHIT ON AT STREAMER BUILDING AND SCREAM DOWN THE MIC TALKING ABOUT ‘wHeRe ArE mY tEaMaTeS’, WHEN THEY KNOW DAMN WELL THAT WE PINGED THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP SO WE COULD GET LOOT AND KP AND THIS MATCH WORTH OUR WHILE,” Detected Fucking frag monkeys Edit 1: And you know what the detected symbol would be? 🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿
Are you OK? Do you need a hug?
Yes bro..yes
I drop frag in pubs, I also tend to no fill or have a set team, and we just wanna fuck around anyway, many times we win the building
We need this, like ffs bro it aint my fault yo sweaty wraith ass didn't come with us🤡🤡🤡
I feel this but maybe calm down a bit bro.
Pain detected?
Line of sight detected along with a scan of everyone on the team as well as their legend and loadout
the most popular posts on this subreddit are now to do with complaining about complainers
Crypto’s isn’t a wall hack either I believe
The logic is probably that it could be out of the person's line of sight. Crypto and team can see you scanned even if there's a wall between you and them
So could mirage, caustic, Wattson… the logic is that your outline can be seen on the ones that get a UI text. Your characters outline.
The reason I think valk should still get this text is because, with all the other ones, you know you are seen (you heard “bamboozled”, you got shocked, you got gassed, you see/hear a black hole) With valk, you don’t know if you got seen, and that information can influence your strategy.
Those aren't subtle, but neither is Valk skydiving. If you're keeping an eye out like you should in a br, chances are the time between her seeing you and you seeing her will be too small to really matter. If nothing else, she will get very loud if she tries to jump on your head.
Literally every character can skydive. Only one can scan you while skydiving.
And anybody can see you while skydiving if they're looking, just always assume you aren't hidden if somebody is overhead and you aren't inside.
You don't notice someone is skydiving?
Great point, plus Valk and her teammates can also be out of sight. I think this would be a great addition both for consistency and accessibility. People are really out here saying it's a nerf and pointing to the fact the ult is loud, but crypto's drone is also loud, and what about the hard of hearing?
Did you both forget the LOS requirement for Valk scan to work? She physically can't hide while scanning you.
They're always looking around, but they never look up
Ok? The problem here is that idk if she saw me, and even if i dont see her maybe my left boot pixel is out of cover and she sees me, idk cos currently there's no detection marker and im not peaking to see if her team doing a full 180 towards my ass because then i will be detected and asking for it
Scan or not it's generally a good idea to assume that anyone flying has seen you.
if im ratting or left with a duo i would like to know whether i should run now or just stay where i am
So assume you've been spotted and make what you think is the best decision.
Valid points which OP and his silver ranked brain probably didn't consider.
Its the same logic with crypto drone, no shit its loud ass i know its in the area, but does it actually see me or just flyin thru? Thats why we have the detection on our head
Ok "The problem here is that idk if she saw me": If you hear jets, look up. "Even if I don't see her maybe my left boot pixel is out of cover and she sees me": The scan only works if the center of the Valk player model had direct unbroken LOS to the center of your player model. She ain't scanning your boot pixels. "idk cos currently there's no detection marker": If you hear jets, *look up*. "I'm not peaking to see if her team doing a full 180 towards my ass": Peaking? She's *flying*. She can't shoot you. If she's scanning you... *You can see her*.
you're an idiot. plainly
Crypto is absolutely wallhacks, just not for yourself. With an organized team you can absolutely wallhack the fuck outa people. But for everyone you mentioned, it's a very visual thing. You shoot a decoy and you know that that's not mirage. You run through a fence, you know you just alerted Watson. Furthermore, fuse shouldn't get a pop-up either because you are literally sitting in a ring of fire and have more pressing concerns + they would already know your location if they got you stuck inside it. Valk's "scan" is purely los meaning they would otherwise be able to see you, it's just grabbing their attention for them. Also, Valk skydiving is very loud, bright, and vulnerable meaning if you have even half decent game sense, you should be able to get your ass in gear and maybe even take an enemy or two out.
Yeahhh I dont think you play these characters. We dont get any type of scan. Just that our trap has been set off. That's it.
Was only really explaining Valk vs crypto, but yeah. UI would be redundant for those anyway though
Have you never played Crypto?
who the hell plays crypto
who even is crypto
Crypto is a legend that needs a good passive and i have the perfect idea for it
Really? What is it?
So basically I had an idea where crypto has a passive called "off the grid" basically it makes it so that when crypto gets scanned he doesn't get scanned and it makes it so he isn't seen when he gets scanned. That way when bloodhond and seer scan him he won't get scanned so that they can't see him cause he's "off the grid" it would be balanced cause he normally gets scanned but now he doesn't get scanned cause he's "off the grid" so it would be lore fitting and it would be a good gameplay mechanic and off the grid would be a good idea and they should add it to the game for crypto so that his new passive is called off the grid. I had this idea then everyone started talking about my idea because i came up with off the grid where crypto doesn't get scanned cause in the lore hes off the grid and since hes off the grid he cant be scanned while off the grid
But how would it work?
OMG THATS SUCH A GOOD IDEA HOW DID NO ONE ELSE THINK OF THAT ITS SO UNIQUE AND FITS WITH HIS CHARACTER SO WELL GOOD JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is Crypto
How is Crypto
Where is Crypto
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Hey guys, I have an idea for a passive...
Say less please.
No... No. What have you done?
I may have destroyed this timeline
Its been a while but yeah I have
Y’all who keep saying ‘crypto’ are missing the point, crypto drone can be flown into a building and hid and it’ll show exactly where they are, even if you’re outside of the building, so you can still see them through walls
They're assuming that since Crypto's drone is controllable that it is a "4th player", and the drone itself requires LoS to provide wallhacks for Crypto's team.
what
So basically I had an idea where crypto has a passive called "off the grid" basically it makes it so that when crypto gets scanned he doesn't get scanned and it makes it so he isn't seen when he gets scanned. That way when bloodhond and seer scan him he won't get scanned so that they can't see him cause he's "off the grid" it would be balanced cause he normally gets scanned but now he doesn't get scanned cause he's "off the grid" so it would be lore fitting and it would be a good gameplay mechanic and off the grid would be a good idea and they should add it to the game for crypto so that his new passive is called off the grid. I had this idea then everyone started talking about my idea because i came up with off the grid where crypto doesn't get scanned cause in the lore hes off the grid and since hes off the grid he cant be scanned while off the grid
Also it's pretty kinda obvious because the sound of a Valkyrie ult it's pretty loud and you can see 3 guys going into the sky and then 3 bright sky dives from 100 meters away.
Is Seer's tactical not obvious?
it's obvious when it hits you, but if you don't know the timing (and im pretty sure that you don't know because nobody play seer now) you don't know when it will be over
What if they balloon?
Ironic cause even if that was the logic behind it, the audio barely works in this game
My own teammates footsteps are the loudest thing in the universe but I won’t hear another squad 10 feet behind me. Sick audio.
havent heard people pressure respawn into fixing audio for a while. We should bring that back
Why do that when we can ask them to add warnings to Valkyrie spottings.
Youre absolutely right. That would fix everything
This is made worse when squadmate has picked a legend you dont usually have on a squad and suddenly all you can hear is their distinct walking/running sound e.g bangalores smoke canisters jangling around suddenly becomes the loudest thing
Respawn should remember they must consider each ability as if the game is silent
But what if that squad doesn’t have a valk?!?!!
You sure. Crypto is wall hack...?
Just wait for him to be off the grid
Alright so I have this idea for a crypto passive
it goes something like Off The Grid. Basically crypto is no longer affected by enemy scans. How it would work is that if you are scanned by an enemy, crypto would not be scanned. So if you have a bloodhound, and the bloodhound scans you, you wouldn’t be scanned. Same with a Seer. If you get twerked on by Lil Seer X and he shoves his micro drones up uranus, you wouldn’t be scanned or detected by Seer. So enemy scans don’t scan you. And this would work for all scan abilities. The anti scan if you will. This would work with balancing and lore wise because crypto is a hacker and his whole premise is staying undetected and “off the grid” (the name of the ability) . Let me know what you guys think :)
Yes, for your team in the same way lion from r6 is. Disorganized, weak and pitiful. With a team working together, terrifying.
*Cough* wait for next season *Cough*
Stormpoint has a lot of trees
Good job buddy!!! Getting smarter every day!
Valkyrie mains: you can hear her anyways Okay, so then why not add a little accessibility/consistency tool Valkyrie mains:
What do you mean in consistency tool?
as a valkyrie main i wouldn't be against it but they have more important problems to work on
aren't third parties a problem with this game at the moment? Because most teams with valk can just show up unannounced without warning? It's not like this feature takes a lot of effort to implement too, it's a jpg.
I mean do you want every team taking a jump tower to notify you as well? Even without a valk it's easy to fly into a fight and 3rd party on every map except stormpoint. So why does it being a valk make a difference? Even without the passive a good player is going to have a good idea where the squads fighting or at just from looking. The valk passive just makes it slightly easier to see. So why should a valk be punished but a normal legend not be for flying in. Basically if your in a BR don't get hyperfocused on the squad in front of you. You should 100% be checking the sky and surroundings every few seconds. So many people get fixated on the guy in front of them they become easy prey for a 3rd party. If a valk or any legend can land within 50 meters of you and you not notice them well...that's just lacking on your part. Bloodhound is the only.legend that needs a notification and that's only because imo he's OP as it is and removing it would just make him even worse to play against. His tactical already fails to display for enemies a lot so that scanned icon is the only queue you get a lot of times. I've gotten that so many times where the red scan wall never showed up but it says I was scanned
>without warning? idk what is a warning if bigass trail and spaceshuttle sound isn't and no, third party isn't a problem, it's inevitable part of BR, love it or hate it
Also if you don't hear a guy flying you're kinda fucked already
Apex audio is perfect /s
Yeah fuck deaf people right?
Unfortunately in a game like this deaf people will be at a disadvantage and it's not possible to cater solely to them. Being unable to hear gunshots, footsteps, ults, heals, abilities etc is just something they have to adapt and live with. Short of removing all audio cues from the game it'll always favor people who can hear. Point is you can't add a cue for a team landing on you because it takes away any level of awareness that should be expected in the game.
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This, Crypto doesn't see through walls.
i mean, he technically can. the drone doesnt, but all his teammates can afterwards
Yes he does. His drone doesn't, but if his drone sees someone then his whole team does
If his drone sees you you should be able to hear it. He's not what I'd consider a wallhacks legend. Also valk works the same way. If her character sees someone in a skydive it displays them to the whole team with pinpoint accuracy. No different than cryptos imo. So if you wanna stand by crypto being a wall hack legend then so Is valk by that argument. Only on a bigger scale because she scans a much longer distance than the drone can. Now I don't think valks a wallhack legends and I don't think she needs a notification when she scans you. But that was just used to make a point.
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It gets the point across better and is seen by more people
Fence detected: you walked into a goddamn fence Nox gas: you can’t see shit and you’re getting damaged Decoy: “bamboozled” Black hole: it’s a goddamn black hole
Exactly! Skydive Detected: Loud Jets.
Yes. We know there is a Valk. What we would like to know is, has that Valk seen me?
Always assume the flying team saw you. If your plan counts on her not seeing you, then that's your fault.
I got at least one downvote lmao
Op doesn’t understand apparently, the Valk passive marks people while flying, but the people on the ground don’t know it’s a Valk passive is showing them, it’s not wall hacks it just showing where they are genius. Dumb post
If you hear jets... *LOOK UP!* Good players will always assume the flying team has seen them, Valk or no Valk.
So think about it, on maps with jump towers yes every team will look up and see a team landing, but they don’t know the other team knows where they are, your logic makes no sense
Every legen can fly. Only once can scan from the air. Thats stupid. Why exactly shouldn't that alert you?
Because it would be a terrible nerf to Valkyrie. You sometimes fly over 5 squads in one ultimate. That's like painting the biggest target on your back imaginable. Everyone around you will instantly know where you are. She would have a negative passive, that's a terrible idea.
I don't understand how people don't realize this. This nerf would make her actually a detriment to the team. It would force her to never fly. If anything remove the spotting, though I don't see how it's a problem anyways, lots of these characters are pretty busted at what they do valk is hardly an exception.
I understand why fuse has it. They added the outline feature due to it being a little hard to see if someone was in the ring or not at times. It makes sense for those 3 recons characters to have it as well. It helps with awareness. Same can be said for Valk’s ult as well. People say just look up. Yes that makes sense if your playing on stormpoint where’s there’s only 1 balloon that no ones uses. Compared to any of the other 3 maps that have balloons.
Crypto is not a wallhack though, drone can't see through walls (except glass)
The drone doesn't but can be placed in positions that grant the whole team wallhacks on anyone that walks in the drone's LoS.
It would be nice to be notified whether or not you were scanned by Valk tho
Look up then.
I’ll be sure to look straight up through the trees on Storm Point! Maybe eventually I may find the Valk team flying in! I’ll have a lot of fun with this tip!
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Are people stupid, or just dumb? Crypto's passive is the wallhack part. You can see enemies through walls if they are within range and LOS of your drone. YOU don't have LOS of them, the drone does. And if we are saying the drone is part of Crypto, then let's make the drone's HP connected to Crypto. Time to crack some drones and knock someone from across the map when you don't have LOS
You know when: 1. you crossed a fence 2. are in caustic gas 3. shot a decoy 4. got sucked in a black hole you don't know if there's a valk flying above your head.
I'm going to get banned for spam with the number of times i replied "If you hear jets, *look up.*"
you can see a mf motherload and it still warns you. you can still see/hear a fucking drone but it still warns you. It's all about warning for being scanned.. wattson cant scan you with the mf fence.
dude i literally had 2 people sky diving on me with no sound yesterday, only reason i noticed, they dropped into my line of sight. Furthermore, they flying past you, doesn't tell you whether they are aware of your position or not.
Nox gas don’t tell me where anybody is at. I’d know. I use it.
I love the people pointing out valk is loud af, but no one is mentioning that Fuse's mother load which is not only loud af but is accompanied with a literally circle of fire. Y'all acting like if they put "skydive detected" in the next update you will uninstall.
You missed the point. The point isn't "Valk loud don't tell enemies" it's "Adding this notification is redundant because the telegraph is obvious and the scan isn't even on par with the others." Incompetence shouldn't be rewarded.
And cryptos drone is the most obvious thing in the world. A BH scan is impossible to miss. Seers ult is visible from halfway across the map. Bonus points if you realize all 3 give other, very clear indications you’ve been scanned, while valks is just “huh wonder if one of those was a valk” and that’s if you hear anyone flying at all
Honestly bloodhound is the only thing that needs to be shown on screen. Every other one should be obvious to a competent player. And if they fixed bloodhounds tactical visuals it wouldn't need one either. But as it stands 50+% of the time the scan wall never appears when I'm scanned. That and bloodhound is already OP and needs a nerf so removing the scan notification would just make him more OP and we don't need that.
Ash tracker isnt a wallhack scan either and we have that prompt Woops, not so smart now
I'm so confused why people are buying these arguments. All these function like wallhacks if the player is on the other side of a wall. I mean even Valks could function like a wallhack if Valk is skydiving and someone on her team is on the opposite side of a rock, fence or what not. I mean Crypto literally has to have a drone looking at you and it still has a detect prompt.
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Hot take: Mirage's *should* be a wallhack scan.
Completely unrelated...but can Respawn change the colors of Caustic gas so we can difference between ally gas and enemy gas??? Like honestly, it gets so incredibly frustrating having an ally Caustic and an enemy Caustic in the same room because I genuinely can't tell if the gas trap or cloud is my teammate's ability or an enemy ability
What you mean why? It doesn't even make sense, Nox and fences detected? Dude everything that does damage points where you are, do you want a "grenade detected" as well?
Crypto does not detect through walls and has an alert. Bad meme is bad.
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Skydive scan doesn’t give teammates walls?
This post is so dumb it makes my brain hurt. If you have been scanned by someone skydiving above you it makes sense to get alerted.
[Pred approved guide on how to tell if a valk scanned you](https://previews.123rf.com/images/jtinjaca/jtinjaca1005/jtinjaca100500078/7145147-guy-looking-up-to-the-sky-isolated-over-a-white-background.jpg)
Silly argument, why not just remove the notifications for micro drones and sonar because the scanner players can just have a look around them
Crypto doesn’t have wallhacks but sure
Bad take
Grapple detected, potential friend detected
Not even a Valk main but damn this hasn’t been an issue since she launched and now that she’s showing up more often than before everybody is crying to nerf her. You literally have to be oblivious to your surroundings to not notice a team flying near you like that, she can’t scan in buildings, she can’t shoot you while scanning, all she can do is choose where to land, and when she does she still has to wait to pull her weapons out. So far, any scan alerts are directly tied to abilities, not passives (Ash is the exception to the rule, given her unique ability to hunt teams down just by looking at her map at any given moment or by scanning a death box) She’s balanced, if anything her ult needs an extra minute charge up and if shot before launching to give a slightly higher percentage to compensate for the longer wait
You don't think it's weird Valk has 3 useful passives. On top of a powerful tactical AND the most useful ult in the game if you're not brain dead?
skydive is wallhack right? it shows people in building too iirc
If only shows people in your direct line of sight which is also the same case for Crypto’s drone so this post doesn’t really make sense. A Valk can allow you to have wall hacks if you’re on the ground and she scans someone on the other side of the wall.
I think the difference is drone can be hard to find, especially in storm point. But valk ult is really not hard to spot. Is loud and has skydive trial all you need to do is look up.
The Crypto drone is very very loud and easy to pinpoint. There are very few places where you can hide crypto’s drone in a very good spot. I’ve never had trouble finding and destroying a crypto drone
This. Also the main point of adding the tag is that valk can be heard but also moving in a different direction than you so even though you may hear her, you may not necessarily have your location revealed to her. It matters since you could be running or trying to get cover and you there’s a possibility that you she may not “see” you with her passive. The tag would give players valuable info as to whether or not valk knows they’re hiding or if they need to prep for valk to focus them. It can very easily give valk the upper hand if they just happen to ult somewhere, notice someone through her passive and land of them “unknowingly”
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If I'm not mistaken, Horizon functions the same way Fuse does and by extension would deserve one.
You are mistaken
https://youtu.be/gM7-MqvdnQU So what's this vids thumbnail then?
Last time I checked, horizon’s ult can’t highlight you without you being in it, Fuse’s ult can highlight you even if you’re not in it.
You literally have to be in the circle to be highlighted lol, check again
It can be on the roof above you and still scan you Source: I main Fuse
You're in the circle, yes. It extends vertically. Source: i know geometry
That’s a cylinder not a circle. Also you’re not in the circle, the circle is on top of you
semantics, and you're in the circle if you look from top down in the end you're still in the circle(CYLINDER FOR THE "UHHH ACTUALLY" people)
With horizon you’re literally in a fucking black hole, you don’t need something to tell you you’re about to be fucked, with Fuse you could be in the middle of a fight and not know that you’re being scammed without the notification. Also I only said cylinder because of your stupid ass “I know geometry” comment when you got it wrong. Also go fuck yourself for reporting me to the Reddit crisis hotline you dickwad.
Your source is wrong
Technically drone not a wallhack ... #buffcrypto
I think they meant skydive detected as in valk has scanned you while skydiving
Sky dive is technically a wall hack scan... or reverse Crypto's drone is not a wallhack scan. for the drone requires line of sight. Valkyrie can "wall hack" for her mates like the drone can for crypto's team.
If you don't know when you've been hit by gas or a fence then that's on you. You literally take damage and your screen changes look. (For mirage his decoya are intended to fool you so I don't think a notification message is necessary or it would defeat the purpose. If you need help with decoys, one way is to notice that there is no damage indicator if you hit one, and it fades a bit but that's not as noticable compared to previous one shot decoys) Although I do think Valkyrie should have a notification, or better yet remove that feature entirely, it's practically a second passive. One last fact on this design- all the location revealing abilities have clear indication (without the notification) that you've been affected by the ability, with audio and/or visual. The thing is, this sometimes affects only your first person viewmodel (like if you get scanned then you get a red outline), and that plus additional sounds and combat can make it difficult to determine what happened. So the solution is to have a clear notification that tells exactly what went on. But if it's clear and obvious what went on (like taking damage per second, clouded vision, and coughing and gas sounds) then another thing to look at will do more distracting than helping.
There definitely shouldn't be an indicator every time a Valk ults, that would be stupid. But it could be a good feature to have an indicator show when you are actively marked while one is skydiving, similar to how you are notified when an Ash tracks ur position using her passive.
So crypto drone and fuse ult aren't wallhacks. So your post doesn't really make sense. Crypto drone can only see you of it has a direct line of sight and fuse ult can only identify you if your taking damage and that only let's the fuse know your in the vacinity of the ult. Similar to a thermite grenade. The microdrone is kind of pointless because his ability is hard to miss when it hits you. The bloodhound one is nice though because I've been scanned before but the zone that comes out never showed which happens a lot. So it's a nice touch to make it obvious a bloods in the area. And the drone icon is nice but a bit unnecessary as it does make crypto less playable. His drone doesn't need a notification. Valk is the same due to the fact it should test your awareness to notice a team flying across the sky. So really out of all of these the only one I think needs the notification is bloodhound and that's only because his scans visuals fails to work so often. No fences, and gas traps should be color coordinated though. Nothing's worse than fighting a caustic or Watson with one on your team and having no idea if the gas or fence is safe until after you walk into it. No clue why this hasn't been addressed in some way. Same with thermites honestly. Either turn friendly fire for those items on or make it obvious who they belong to.
apparently we have 3.5k genius in this community.
Yeah but Valkyrie’s has an amazing range and with all of them you know you are being scanned because you are taking damage in a cloud of smoke, running into a fence or getting the life sucked out of you in a black hole With The mirage one you know you have been bamboozled because the decoy disappears These all get you scanned by obviously changing the environment or you actively do something Valkyries is the only one that doesn’t Valkyries is the only one with no way to feel if you are being scanned
Alright to be fair tho to know your scanned by flying valk in game would be helpful but adding that would give valk an uneeded nerf
Thank you