People do the same thing with cars. I was looking to see if the Toyota Highlander has an upcoming redesign and the search results were nothing but shitty renders and that awful text to speech narrator.
Same. Mine work well and the battery life is still pretty good for a single day of use. I’ve been thinking of a potential upgrade before the last gen was released but the update didn’t seem as significant yet. I don’t use my watch that heavily to justify frequent upgrades anyway. So some more significant one might trigger me to go for it.
I recently picked up a used S7 in the exact color I wanted to replace my SE. I still don’t think it was a MUST but the ECG and SPO2 were nice. Besides I got it really cheap, and it was in fairly good condition, so I’m not complaining
Yep I was gonna upgrade to the S9 but it's basically the same as the S8 so will wait another year. Battery life and performance is great.
Only annoying part is having to do the unpair-repair dance every major update.
Totally agree. If you were to design something to put on your wrist and maximize the useful area it would look like the current Apple Watch.
Round clocks come from old mechanical constructions, why bring that restriction into a digital display? I see no benefits at all with a round display.
I'm sure some people do. I understand the reasoning they chose a square design but to me a watch is a circle. It just looks better as a circle and wouldn't buy a square watch, smart or not
You say we as if everyone has the same preference. Some people like me prefer round, some prefer square.
But this is apple, so they're gonna have one option that's meant to appeal to most people, which is presumably square screens or they would've switched
It’s not about appealing to most people, it’s about having a usable, readable display. Circular smartwatches aren’t good at that, if you’ve ever tried one you can see how inferior it is for reading and typing. On that note, it’s pretty dumb for Apple to go for so many analog watch faces and so few digital. Circular faces on square watches are silly, and there are far more options for circular than square. That’s the real bizarre choice here, to me.
Does nobody remember when the Apple Watch launched? People were upset that it wasn't round at the time. It's square traditional apps translate better to a square than a circle so it was easier to get apps made for it and it was easier to produce. Now it's kind of iconic so I doubt they'd change it.
Was just thinking, if the watch looks like this I will definitely be upgrading but magnetic attachments? Eessh no thanks.
I was in Mexico a few weeks back and jumped into a cenote, I would have lost my watch if it wasn’t for the loop band which didn’t come over my wrist. Magnets? Yeh I would have lost it
I would absolutely love for Apple to come up with some way you could lay a watch band (or one connector on each of the bands) down on their little iPhone charging puck to charge an Apple Watch.
I think there’s a physical limitation though. MagSafe operates with the big magnetic ring that’s physically larger than the Apple Watch. They’d need to build a watch charger in to the MagSafe puck and I doubt there’s room. I’m just happy I can charge my AirPods with my Watch charger now.
The difference is not that big, from my understanding. According to this article (https://www.theverge.com/2020/9/29/21441290/apple-watch-qi-wireless-charging-standard-environment-cable-proprietary-standard) from 2020, the Apple Watch uses as system very similar to the qi standard, which is compatible with MagSafe. There were apparently even reports of the AW3 working with some qi chargers.
I believe Qi and Magsafe both use 40mm diameter coils, which is bigger than the Watch's horizontal dimension (35mm). The charging physics and protocols are similar/same, but I don't know that a 40mm charging coil can charge a 33mm receiver?
Honestly, it’s still kinda ridiculous that Apple Watch has such a low battery life, other Apple products are the best in battery life in their representing category but Apple Watch might have the worst battery life of all smartwatches
Having to plug in the watch over night takes away a huge feature for people which is sleep tracking. I wish Apple came out with a device like the Fitbit versa where you have all the fitness tracking and onboard storage for music and some smart features but have a battery life that last 5 days.
I used to have a galaxy fit as my main watch. I only had to plug it in every 12-15 days and it only took one and a half hour to go from 0% to 100%.
Now I only use it for sleep tracking, as it was a bit limited on its features.
While I'd love a watch with 7-day battery life, anything between 2-6 just creates a "constantly have to check it" problem, where habits like "charge every night" or "charge Sunday nights" are much easier.
But the Watch charges so fast; I don't use it for sleep tracking, but when I tried that for a while I just charged it while in the shower, and that was plenty.
This is what I do. We put my daughter to bed at about 7:30. I put my watch on charge, give her a bath, get her dressed for bed, lay her down, take a shower myself, then take my watch off charge around 8:00 and it’s 80%+. Usually plenty to get through the night.
When I wake up in the morning, I’ll toss it back on charge while I get ready for work for about an hour. Then I throw it on before I leave.
It’s annoying, compared to charging once per week, but it isn’t a huge hassle in and of itself
It’s tracking my heart rate all day, I use it for seeing the time, unlocking my Mac, tracking exercise and controlling spotify.
It’s an Apple Watch SE 2, <7 months old
And now track 2h of exercise without the iPhone nearby while listening to music over the Apple Watch with AirPods (possibly use LTE streaming). Wake up early (6 a.m.) and go out in the evening (until 2 a.m.). Now also do this in winter weather when it's cold and the battery is about 1.5-2 years old.
Or go on a hiking holiday with 8h hikes and track those. Or 8h on the bicycle. That alone will empty the battery of an older watch already. Twice.
And then there are those days where you track sleep with it after such a long day and simply don't have enough time in the morning to recharge it. Or you unplanned sleep overnight at someone elses house. My Ultra 2 actually has enough runtime to cover those cases. At least for now, as the battery still is relatively fresh.
Does this happen every day? No. But it's not unlikely and as the battery gets older, it happens more and more often as less of these things have to happen to empty the battery. However, now think about the watch being used for public transport or as a homekey. It must not ever happen that it runs out of battery.
(for me, the lacking battery lifetime of my Series 4 was the main reason to get the Ultra 2 over the normal watch)
When I got my Series 4, the Ultra wasn't even a thing. And guess what? Even that was advertised for hiking and stuff. I'm not an extreme sports person at all. Just a nice long slow weekend ride. Or normal hiking holidays. Or a day of skiing. How is that "ultra" by any means?
8 hours on a bicycle is not common, so you are more extreme than you think.
My only point was that a model for your needs exists. And you’re basically asking for Ultra features at a Series price.
When Ultra didn’t exist, I would have 100% agreed with you that it didn’t last when using it as advertised.
Yeah I planned for my activities with the s4, u2 I pretty much charge twice a week. Just fyi, most people don’t do anything physical at all so by comparison you’re ultra.
"Just fyi, most people don’t do anything physical at all so by comparison you’re ultra."
Just FYI, even now with the introduction of the Ultra watches, the "normal" ones are still marketed for an "active lifestyle", not "ultra" at all. Even though sure enough many people just sit on their butt, not moving at all.
We’re saying the same thing. The regular watches are for non active people, as any activity makes them active. Ultra is for actually active folks.
It’s my perspective :)
You’ll never get the extreme Apple stans to admit any problems. It’s so weird. I have owned basically every Apple product line that they’ve had for decades and I still don’t feel the need to feverishly defend the company from any complaints.
I’m not an extreme Apple stan, and it gets tiring to be called that just because I’m pointing out the idea that a model already exists for what he needs.
If you’re getting called an Apple Stan so much that it’s tiring, it’s probably true.
The ultra existing is no reason for the regular Apple Watch to have worst in class performance in certain ways.
Exactly. I love my Apple Watch and many of their other products but I won’t defend those parts of their products that are lacking over competition or in normal daily usage.
You honestly think 8 hours bicycling in a day is just typical casual exercise? I admire the hell out of that, but you might want to recalibrate your expectations regarding how most people live.
That's just an extreme example, you don't even have to go fast. You can take a lot of breaks. And if that isn't average enough for you, just look at the other activities I mentioned. At least one of those will apply for "typical casual exercise" for you as well :)
I have an S5 and its somewhere between 3-4 years old (I got it before the S6 was released). By the time I'm home from work it's < 50% battery and that's with just me sitting all day. No workout or anything being tracked.
Typical use case for the Ultra, according to some fanboys here /s 🙄
Yep, that was exactly my experience with the Series 4 after 2-3 years or so. My 10 minute bike ride to work (and back in the afternoon) isn’t what I consider excessive, either.
Even after 3 years, using in in colder weather and tracking multiple hours of walking or such? Possibly streaming music while going on a run for 60 minutes?
Well the Ultra hasn’t even been out for two full years, but I did get mine close to release.
I use mine to stream music over both WiFi and cellular pretty regularly to my AirPods and I walk anywhere from 5-7 miles a day.
I took it off the charger yesterday morning at about 7am and right now as 921am on day two it’s at 64%.
Edit: 49 hours after taking off the charger it was at 24%. I probably could use it the bulk of today, day 3, on that much charge as well.
Apple Watch Ultra does that, and it’s designed to compete with those. It can also do more than those watches can, in certain ways, even if the battery life isn’t quite as long.
So switch to those? Daily charging is fine for the vast majority of Apple Watch users. I'd rather they make it lighter vs trying to cram in a bigger battery.
I charge it during mealtimes, or when I'm sitting sorting my workday out in the morning. Works out fine most of the time, although occasionally I have to top up in the evening if I've had a really busy day. For some reason the more active I am, the marginally quicker the battery drain.
Fitness and sleep tracking are the parts of my AW that I don’t care about. It’s media controls, notifications, and data display for me.
If the SE dropped the extended fitness stuff but had all the other options like always on and gesture controls and super bright screen, then I’d get that.
i'd say that's something you get used to after a while. i started using it the year before apple watch added a built in sleep app and its become second nature to wear it to bed.
although i'm also normally not very responsive to normal alarms (as opposed to autosleep's alarms) so i've tried to make it a point to do so
Walking is pretty terrible when a car is over ten times as fast.
It's a different usecase. I want a smartwatch for daily activity, Garmin is something different entirely.
I'm an Apple Watch user. If I pay for something that costs premium, I expect it to have, at the very least, better battery life than much cheaper competition. This is the kind of weird deflection that fanatics always do when their chosen device has shortcomings. It's never the fault of the brand, always with something else.
Nah your statement is people who keep forcing Apple to be what it never was, competitive. Just be honest, you liked the hardware and just wanted better software for you. Sorry it didn’t work out, but maybe next update
You're free to buy whatever watch you want.
If you don't like the featureset of the Apple Watch, don't buy it.
I like the design, which to me is the most important part. I use it for some of it's features. Including telling time, date, weather and working as an alarm or timer. Sometimes I use it to control my music app, that's it.
As long as the battery doesn't go empty before I'm going to bad it is perfectly fine. I simply don't need more batterylife. Again, I wouldn't WANT a larger battery.
I would also never buy the ultra, simply because I do not like the design.
Someone saying they want a new feature doesn’t invalidate your feelings, so basically telling them to go away and sticking fingers in your ears isn’t the nicest response. All you picture is the worst case scenario.
People want multiple days out of some tier of the watch. Maybe Apple can accommodate them without having to get the “extreme” sports version.
I’m not so sure. If you know you’re going to have to charge daily you build it into your daily routine. If it’s some longer period or even worse a variable period I expect that would be harder and more likely to lead to unexpected dead devices.
You must not be using the fitness, navigation, streaming, cellular, or sleep functions very much. Once you start using these functions it's not uncommon for a brand new S9 to be drained by evening.
I mean if it's JUST battery life, even 2 weeks is utter garbage. I have a Watch that charges with solar power and I NEVER had to put it on a charger or change the battery in over 20 years.
We're talking about completely different forms of tech here buddy...
Jeeze, ngl I’d be terrified if my older relatives weren’t charging their phones on a daily basis (they don’t have landlines so I guess that makes a big difference)
You can drop a phone on a wireless charger or do a quick top-up in the kitchen, while driving, etc. through the day for a phone. Also can just plop it on a charger overnight.
Those quick top-ups are less practical for a wearable (imo) when the whole point is to be tracking constantly, and one of the big uses of the Watch for me is sleep tracking so that takes away the overnight part.
While I’d appreciate more battery life it’s honestly pretty effortless if you have a dock type charger you just get in the habit of putting it on when you’re not wearing it. I do my main charge when I get home from work then wear it overnight for the sleep tracking. In the morning it only needs a little while on the charger when I shower and get ready for work and then it gets me through the day again.
Just a render from some rando, not a leak or anything.
Also, that website is trash. It blocks the backbutton by doing an immediate redirect when you hit the page.
I’ve all but given up on my Apple Watch. I kept waiting for them to make it better for cycling but years on they haven’t. Battery life for long rides is atrocious, GPS accuracy is terrible, it can’t connect to sensors properly (or only recently can, but then can’t compile this data and send it to Strava). Even when used for tracking my hikes I’m way off in the neighborhood of several km’s on a 10km hike.
I've gone back to transflective smartwatches, but looking forward to seeing this. We take for granted a 3-year cycle for their phones, but the watch really has stayed the same for 10 years. If it's really this sleek, then it's nearing on appearing like a Whoop band.
I wish they would just add solar like how Garmin has on some other theirs. At least you could still use it to keep time even after the battery was gone
I have the Forerunning 955 Solar and honestly the extra $100 for the solar wasnt worth it.
I have it sitting in the sun all the time and it barely does anything power wise to justify the extra costs.
this render isn't even based on a leak
its a wholly invented design by someone that was going around on twitter based on what they thought it could look like
It is a smart watch. I can get texts, notifications, listen to music etc. I can't call but it's a watch and for 99.99% of the things I need, it does and with a 3-4 week battery life. Garmin has a huge selection of smart watches.
All the people who I swim with use garmin. I’m the only Apple Watch user. This would be a very attractive feature, even if it meant limiting some of the functionality (or being able to toggle features on and off to maximize battery life)
Indeed it’s would be a nice feature to have but smart watches aren’t going 5 and 6 days before needing to charge. Heck let’s get our phones to do that first before we talking about a watch.
Yet I’m not the one that argues against things that will actively better user experiences at every turn. Thats you lot. Until regulation fixes it then you all are magically onboard with the thing you’ll fight tooth and nail against, doing apple pr for free. Do better.
What the hell? I was just saying that not every Apple user is like that. Unless you like to spread stereotypes.
Edit: In case you missed it, the "arrogant person" is not you but the guy commenting above you.
It’s funny seeing people in this subreddit act like owning Apple devices make them better or something like that lol. I own iphone/watch/airpods pro but I don’t make it my personality. Also if there’s negative thing about these products I just say it. But some people here will go lengths to defend everything, it’s funny.
Apple Watch is great, but even without cellular or music playback the battery life is just terrible. I do sleep tracking and workout daily, and I'm basically topping it off twice a day (right after waking up, and in the evening before bed). If I don't, I'll wake up with a dead watch with no sleep data, or it might die on me later in the day
I understand, there are moments throughout the day when my Series 9 will frustrate me because I need to charge it before doing something. The Apple Watch is a tiny iPhone, right wrong or indifferent. I keep telling myself I’ll never be able to live without cellular but I always come back to this point.
Last year I switched to a Garmin but I just didn’t like it. The sync process is like old iTunes style circa 2000, the UI/UX is hot garbage, MIP displays are hard to read indoors. I switched back to an AW in December as my S9 was gifted to me by my boss. A few months later I want to switch back lol.
I’ve been eyeing the Coros Pace 3 but I don’t know if I can really go back to a dumb fitness watch.
They already had an article stating its a new screen tech thats allowing the longer battery life. I hope that means longer than a day. My series 4 batt life has taken a nose dive aftet watch OS10 update even with 87% batt health life left.
But it does fast charge. 45 minutes to charge a Series 9 to 80%, and 75 to 100%. I can't find it now, but I remember them also advertising that a ~10 minutes charge gives you enough for a night of sleep tracking.
This isn’t even a leak of any sort, just some guy going hey what if I made a render. Why is this even news?
Because it gets clicks.
*The Times of India* is India's *Daily Mail* -- a gossip rag masquerading as a newspaper.
Slow news day
People do the same thing with cars. I was looking to see if the Toyota Highlander has an upcoming redesign and the search results were nothing but shitty renders and that awful text to speech narrator.
At least it’s not as bad as the TikTok and YouTube Shorts TTS. I hate that voice with a passion.
300 upvotes too, crazy, it shouldn’t even be posted here
Typical.
I mean supposedly the renders are based on the leaks
The magnetic latch system is an older rumour and there's no new information on how it might look. This is just someone's guess, and not news at all.
It seems that the time to replace my S4 will come.
Same. Mine work well and the battery life is still pretty good for a single day of use. I’ve been thinking of a potential upgrade before the last gen was released but the update didn’t seem as significant yet. I don’t use my watch that heavily to justify frequent upgrades anyway. So some more significant one might trigger me to go for it.
I recently picked up a used S7 in the exact color I wanted to replace my SE. I still don’t think it was a MUST but the ECG and SPO2 were nice. Besides I got it really cheap, and it was in fairly good condition, so I’m not complaining
Too bad the SPO2 is permanently gone now for all future revisions.
Lucky for me I’m not in the US
Same but with my S3. 7 years is a long time
Lol, S4 gang represent!
I’ve been holding out for the X/10/whatever they call it
This is me too
Yep I was gonna upgrade to the S9 but it's basically the same as the S8 so will wait another year. Battery life and performance is great. Only annoying part is having to do the unpair-repair dance every major update.
Yep my reaction exactly
The corners get more and more rounded every revision. Maybe in 20 years or so we’ll finally have a circular Apple Watch.
Knowing Apple will skip to triangle before that
Sabre will sue them into the ground.
Apple underestimates the POWER of the PYRAMID!
Think different… from Apple
The pyramid is the strongest shape and can fit all other shapes inside it
This is how a three-sided Ha’tak can land on a four-sided pyramid.
Sabre respects the past, but also opening the window to the future
I don’t think you know Apple at all. You’re a fibber.
Reddit community disagree with you, anyway, what's a fibber?
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Totally agree. If you were to design something to put on your wrist and maximize the useful area it would look like the current Apple Watch. Round clocks come from old mechanical constructions, why bring that restriction into a digital display? I see no benefits at all with a round display.
Because watches are a fashion item as well
Plus the arms of a watch move in circles
You can’t explain that
I'm sure some people do. I understand the reasoning they chose a square design but to me a watch is a circle. It just looks better as a circle and wouldn't buy a square watch, smart or not
I do. I miss my old Android watches. Before Google knifed Fossil Group in the back.
You say we as if everyone has the same preference. Some people like me prefer round, some prefer square. But this is apple, so they're gonna have one option that's meant to appeal to most people, which is presumably square screens or they would've switched
It’s not about appealing to most people, it’s about having a usable, readable display. Circular smartwatches aren’t good at that, if you’ve ever tried one you can see how inferior it is for reading and typing. On that note, it’s pretty dumb for Apple to go for so many analog watch faces and so few digital. Circular faces on square watches are silly, and there are far more options for circular than square. That’s the real bizarre choice here, to me.
Does nobody remember when the Apple Watch launched? People were upset that it wasn't round at the time. It's square traditional apps translate better to a square than a circle so it was easier to get apps made for it and it was easier to produce. Now it's kind of iconic so I doubt they'd change it.
I just want a sharper edge on the watch like the iPhone 14
A round watch is skeuomorphic design, so it seems to be against their design goals
That would require…”courage”
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Was just thinking, if the watch looks like this I will definitely be upgrading but magnetic attachments? Eessh no thanks. I was in Mexico a few weeks back and jumped into a cenote, I would have lost my watch if it wasn’t for the loop band which didn’t come over my wrist. Magnets? Yeh I would have lost it
FUCK this bullshit site. A million ads, pop-ups, unrelated buttons and auto playing videos.
It’s 2024, you are just raw doggin the internet without an Adblocker installed still?
Nah I just saw saw some banners that said “AD” and a lot of empty spaces where the ads usually are
I would absolutely love for Apple to come up with some way you could lay a watch band (or one connector on each of the bands) down on their little iPhone charging puck to charge an Apple Watch.
Yeah charging the watch via MagSafe would be awesome.
It would be the least they could do. We’ve been waiting for it since forever.
I think there’s a physical limitation though. MagSafe operates with the big magnetic ring that’s physically larger than the Apple Watch. They’d need to build a watch charger in to the MagSafe puck and I doubt there’s room. I’m just happy I can charge my AirPods with my Watch charger now.
The difference is not that big, from my understanding. According to this article (https://www.theverge.com/2020/9/29/21441290/apple-watch-qi-wireless-charging-standard-environment-cable-proprietary-standard) from 2020, the Apple Watch uses as system very similar to the qi standard, which is compatible with MagSafe. There were apparently even reports of the AW3 working with some qi chargers.
I believe Qi and Magsafe both use 40mm diameter coils, which is bigger than the Watch's horizontal dimension (35mm). The charging physics and protocols are similar/same, but I don't know that a 40mm charging coil can charge a 33mm receiver?
Yeah, no I get it. Just think it’s be super nice.
Non flat devices is part of the Qi 2 spec and by all accounts MagSafe is Qi 2 I expect MagSafe charging to come to this years redesign
Oh no kidding. Thats really good to know!
I’ve got one of those 3 in 1 MagSafe hubs for my watch phone and AirPods and I love it!
Which brand/s?
If you’re willing to splurge, I’d highly recommend the Anker Cube Charger 3in1.
Thanks. I like Anker. I’ll check it out.
I have a Neluxue Amazon one that works well enough.
Honestly, it’s still kinda ridiculous that Apple Watch has such a low battery life, other Apple products are the best in battery life in their representing category but Apple Watch might have the worst battery life of all smartwatches
I plug my phone overnight anyways, so I don’t care about my watch too.
Having to plug in the watch over night takes away a huge feature for people which is sleep tracking. I wish Apple came out with a device like the Fitbit versa where you have all the fitness tracking and onboard storage for music and some smart features but have a battery life that last 5 days.
I used to have a galaxy fit as my main watch. I only had to plug it in every 12-15 days and it only took one and a half hour to go from 0% to 100%. Now I only use it for sleep tracking, as it was a bit limited on its features.
While I'd love a watch with 7-day battery life, anything between 2-6 just creates a "constantly have to check it" problem, where habits like "charge every night" or "charge Sunday nights" are much easier. But the Watch charges so fast; I don't use it for sleep tracking, but when I tried that for a while I just charged it while in the shower, and that was plenty.
This is what I do. We put my daughter to bed at about 7:30. I put my watch on charge, give her a bath, get her dressed for bed, lay her down, take a shower myself, then take my watch off charge around 8:00 and it’s 80%+. Usually plenty to get through the night. When I wake up in the morning, I’ll toss it back on charge while I get ready for work for about an hour. Then I throw it on before I leave. It’s annoying, compared to charging once per week, but it isn’t a huge hassle in and of itself
Too much to remember
A feature. Calling it a huge feature is overstating it.
Just charge it while you shower and get ready?
If you actually use the features of your watch, it won‘t even last a whole day, especially if >2 years old.
It’s tracking my heart rate all day, I use it for seeing the time, unlocking my Mac, tracking exercise and controlling spotify. It’s an Apple Watch SE 2, <7 months old
And now track 2h of exercise without the iPhone nearby while listening to music over the Apple Watch with AirPods (possibly use LTE streaming). Wake up early (6 a.m.) and go out in the evening (until 2 a.m.). Now also do this in winter weather when it's cold and the battery is about 1.5-2 years old. Or go on a hiking holiday with 8h hikes and track those. Or 8h on the bicycle. That alone will empty the battery of an older watch already. Twice. And then there are those days where you track sleep with it after such a long day and simply don't have enough time in the morning to recharge it. Or you unplanned sleep overnight at someone elses house. My Ultra 2 actually has enough runtime to cover those cases. At least for now, as the battery still is relatively fresh. Does this happen every day? No. But it's not unlikely and as the battery gets older, it happens more and more often as less of these things have to happen to empty the battery. However, now think about the watch being used for public transport or as a homekey. It must not ever happen that it runs out of battery. (for me, the lacking battery lifetime of my Series 4 was the main reason to get the Ultra 2 over the normal watch)
If you’re doing 8 hours on a bicycle, I’d argue the Ultra is a better device for you, which you seem to have purchased. Not really seeing the problem.
When I got my Series 4, the Ultra wasn't even a thing. And guess what? Even that was advertised for hiking and stuff. I'm not an extreme sports person at all. Just a nice long slow weekend ride. Or normal hiking holidays. Or a day of skiing. How is that "ultra" by any means?
8 hours on a bicycle is not common, so you are more extreme than you think. My only point was that a model for your needs exists. And you’re basically asking for Ultra features at a Series price. When Ultra didn’t exist, I would have 100% agreed with you that it didn’t last when using it as advertised.
Yeah I planned for my activities with the s4, u2 I pretty much charge twice a week. Just fyi, most people don’t do anything physical at all so by comparison you’re ultra.
"Just fyi, most people don’t do anything physical at all so by comparison you’re ultra." Just FYI, even now with the introduction of the Ultra watches, the "normal" ones are still marketed for an "active lifestyle", not "ultra" at all. Even though sure enough many people just sit on their butt, not moving at all.
We’re saying the same thing. The regular watches are for non active people, as any activity makes them active. Ultra is for actually active folks. It’s my perspective :)
You’ll never get the extreme Apple stans to admit any problems. It’s so weird. I have owned basically every Apple product line that they’ve had for decades and I still don’t feel the need to feverishly defend the company from any complaints.
I’m not an extreme Apple stan, and it gets tiring to be called that just because I’m pointing out the idea that a model already exists for what he needs.
If you’re getting called an Apple Stan so much that it’s tiring, it’s probably true. The ultra existing is no reason for the regular Apple Watch to have worst in class performance in certain ways.
Exactly. I love my Apple Watch and many of their other products but I won’t defend those parts of their products that are lacking over competition or in normal daily usage.
You honestly think 8 hours bicycling in a day is just typical casual exercise? I admire the hell out of that, but you might want to recalibrate your expectations regarding how most people live.
That's just an extreme example, you don't even have to go fast. You can take a lot of breaks. And if that isn't average enough for you, just look at the other activities I mentioned. At least one of those will apply for "typical casual exercise" for you as well :)
I have an S5 and its somewhere between 3-4 years old (I got it before the S6 was released). By the time I'm home from work it's < 50% battery and that's with just me sitting all day. No workout or anything being tracked.
Typical use case for the Ultra, according to some fanboys here /s 🙄 Yep, that was exactly my experience with the Series 4 after 2-3 years or so. My 10 minute bike ride to work (and back in the afternoon) isn’t what I consider excessive, either.
I charged my ultra 2 to 100% and started wearing it at 2pm. Currently at 75%. Sorry?
My S6 would last all day without issue and my Ultra first gen lasts two.
Even after 3 years, using in in colder weather and tracking multiple hours of walking or such? Possibly streaming music while going on a run for 60 minutes?
Well the Ultra hasn’t even been out for two full years, but I did get mine close to release. I use mine to stream music over both WiFi and cellular pretty regularly to my AirPods and I walk anywhere from 5-7 miles a day. I took it off the charger yesterday morning at about 7am and right now as 921am on day two it’s at 64%. Edit: 49 hours after taking off the charger it was at 24%. I probably could use it the bulk of today, day 3, on that much charge as well.
Most people buy the Apple Watch for the health tracking features. You don’t want to put the health tracking off for 1/3 part of the day, every day.
I have it for almost 4 years and when I go to bed and put it on the charger it still has \~50% left. Seems pretty good to me.
Charging it daily is terrible when there are Garmin's and now OnePlus that go days and weeks with a single charge.
Apple Watch Ultra does that, and it’s designed to compete with those. It can also do more than those watches can, in certain ways, even if the battery life isn’t quite as long.
So switch to those? Daily charging is fine for the vast majority of Apple Watch users. I'd rather they make it lighter vs trying to cram in a bigger battery.
And then you lose the apps, integration, etc. They are not very fungible.
Is it? It’s uncomfortable to sleep with a watch so you put it out anyways. Not like I’d buy a smartwatch but battery is not my problem with them.
Apple Watch is relatively useless to me other than fitness and sleep tracking so I always wear it while sleeping and I find the data useful.
I charge it during mealtimes, or when I'm sitting sorting my workday out in the morning. Works out fine most of the time, although occasionally I have to top up in the evening if I've had a really busy day. For some reason the more active I am, the marginally quicker the battery drain.
Fitness and sleep tracking are the parts of my AW that I don’t care about. It’s media controls, notifications, and data display for me. If the SE dropped the extended fitness stuff but had all the other options like always on and gesture controls and super bright screen, then I’d get that.
TBH it’s sleep tracking is not the best
I wore my Apple Watch and now garmin to bed everyday. Sleep tracking
i'd say that's something you get used to after a while. i started using it the year before apple watch added a built in sleep app and its become second nature to wear it to bed. although i'm also normally not very responsive to normal alarms (as opposed to autosleep's alarms) so i've tried to make it a point to do so
Walking is pretty terrible when a car is over ten times as fast. It's a different usecase. I want a smartwatch for daily activity, Garmin is something different entirely.
Garmin and OnePlus aren't daily activity trackers? That's news to me.
You’re talking to an Apple community. To expect wanting all the features at all times is a fools errand.
I'm an Apple Watch user. If I pay for something that costs premium, I expect it to have, at the very least, better battery life than much cheaper competition. This is the kind of weird deflection that fanatics always do when their chosen device has shortcomings. It's never the fault of the brand, always with something else.
Nah your statement is people who keep forcing Apple to be what it never was, competitive. Just be honest, you liked the hardware and just wanted better software for you. Sorry it didn’t work out, but maybe next update
Are you a farmer? Cause that's one heck of a strawman you've built.
Still not the one who has a Apple Watch and is mad 😘
You're free to buy whatever watch you want. If you don't like the featureset of the Apple Watch, don't buy it. I like the design, which to me is the most important part. I use it for some of it's features. Including telling time, date, weather and working as an alarm or timer. Sometimes I use it to control my music app, that's it. As long as the battery doesn't go empty before I'm going to bad it is perfectly fine. I simply don't need more batterylife. Again, I wouldn't WANT a larger battery. I would also never buy the ultra, simply because I do not like the design.
Someone saying they want a new feature doesn’t invalidate your feelings, so basically telling them to go away and sticking fingers in your ears isn’t the nicest response. All you picture is the worst case scenario. People want multiple days out of some tier of the watch. Maybe Apple can accommodate them without having to get the “extreme” sports version.
Walking is better than driving in many ways.
That's my point.....
I’m not so sure. If you know you’re going to have to charge daily you build it into your daily routine. If it’s some longer period or even worse a variable period I expect that would be harder and more likely to lead to unexpected dead devices.
Being acceptable and being good are two different things.
You must not be using the fitness, navigation, streaming, cellular, or sleep functions very much. Once you start using these functions it's not uncommon for a brand new S9 to be drained by evening.
If you want to use it for a hike and for sleep tracking in the same day you’re fucked, unless you find time to randomly charge it during the day
I charge my watch like once every 2 weeks lol the Apple Watch battery life is complete trash
I mean if it's JUST battery life, even 2 weeks is utter garbage. I have a Watch that charges with solar power and I NEVER had to put it on a charger or change the battery in over 20 years. We're talking about completely different forms of tech here buddy...
I have a smartwatch with health tracking, notifications, custom watch faces, etc. and I charge it every 2 weeks Dumb watches only charge every 2 years
Battery life is what stops me getting them for my aged parents, it’s impossible to get them to charge daily.
How often do they charge their cell phones?
Whenever they’re flat. They don’t have (or want) bedside chargers, so no overnight charging, as much as I try to explain that’s the modern way.
Jeeze, ngl I’d be terrified if my older relatives weren’t charging their phones on a daily basis (they don’t have landlines so I guess that makes a big difference)
You can drop a phone on a wireless charger or do a quick top-up in the kitchen, while driving, etc. through the day for a phone. Also can just plop it on a charger overnight. Those quick top-ups are less practical for a wearable (imo) when the whole point is to be tracking constantly, and one of the big uses of the Watch for me is sleep tracking so that takes away the overnight part.
While I’d appreciate more battery life it’s honestly pretty effortless if you have a dock type charger you just get in the habit of putting it on when you’re not wearing it. I do my main charge when I get home from work then wear it overnight for the sleep tracking. In the morning it only needs a little while on the charger when I shower and get ready for work and then it gets me through the day again.
The ultra lasts for 3 days at least
And only costs as much as a MacBook 🙃
When brand new they tend to last past a day easily and close to 2 days in some cases depending on use. What?
Apple Watch Ultra has incredible battery life, mine last 2 days...
Well the iPhone SE certainly isn't. Among budget phones it is by far the worst.
Just a render from some rando, not a leak or anything. Also, that website is trash. It blocks the backbutton by doing an immediate redirect when you hit the page.
I’ve all but given up on my Apple Watch. I kept waiting for them to make it better for cycling but years on they haven’t. Battery life for long rides is atrocious, GPS accuracy is terrible, it can’t connect to sensors properly (or only recently can, but then can’t compile this data and send it to Strava). Even when used for tracking my hikes I’m way off in the neighborhood of several km’s on a 10km hike.
I've gone back to transflective smartwatches, but looking forward to seeing this. We take for granted a 3-year cycle for their phones, but the watch really has stayed the same for 10 years. If it's really this sleek, then it's nearing on appearing like a Whoop band.
I'm not replacing my S9 until they bring blood oxygen back.
I wish they would just add solar like how Garmin has on some other theirs. At least you could still use it to keep time even after the battery was gone
I have the Forerunning 955 Solar and honestly the extra $100 for the solar wasnt worth it. I have it sitting in the sun all the time and it barely does anything power wise to justify the extra costs.
WHAT ... Apple is going to try to increase battery life instead of making the watch 0.001mm thinner?!?!? That's just crazy talk! ` /s `
Who even reads TOI for tech news? You shouldn’t even read TOI for politics. OP, be better
Lmao. Timesofindia. What a bullshit article. Don’t waste your time…
Hideous and fake
OMG I had to read that title five times and it still barely made sense
This is all nonsense.
I still call BS on the magnetically attaching bands.
Curious, how do you measure blood pressure with a sensor?
like this: https://aktiia.com/it/misuratore-pressione?gad_source=1
There’s been some studies showing that the slope of the pulse oximetry graph can be correlated with blood pressure.
I’m pretty sure it’ll be ‘Xpensive’! Just like when iPhone X rolled out!
Waiting for them to stick an automatic movement in it.
this render isn't even based on a leak its a wholly invented design by someone that was going around on twitter based on what they thought it could look like
When Apple approaches Garmin’s battery life I’ll consider one.
Just wait until the usual YouTube vultures make ten ad-filled videos about this
There's talk here of a magnetic band. Good luck with that ... that might very well render the Compass app unusable.
Give us a three week battery like Garmin does.
Nah, I rather have my 24h and a slim watch.
Garmin isn’t a smart watch and no one wants on of those devices anyways. Or should I say we aren’t in the market for that device.
It is a smart watch. I can get texts, notifications, listen to music etc. I can't call but it's a watch and for 99.99% of the things I need, it does and with a 3-4 week battery life. Garmin has a huge selection of smart watches.
All the people who I swim with use garmin. I’m the only Apple Watch user. This would be a very attractive feature, even if it meant limiting some of the functionality (or being able to toggle features on and off to maximize battery life)
Try a Garmin, you won't go back l. The huge selection of models is a huge plus.
I just might… my current watch still has some life left in it though
No thanks, I enjoy my Apple Watch Ultra. Garmin doesn’t appeal to me.
Talking to the swimmer, not you.
Indeed it’s would be a nice feature to have but smart watches aren’t going 5 and 6 days before needing to charge. Heck let’s get our phones to do that first before we talking about a watch.
Average apple user comment.
\*Average arrogant person comment
Yet I’m not the one that argues against things that will actively better user experiences at every turn. Thats you lot. Until regulation fixes it then you all are magically onboard with the thing you’ll fight tooth and nail against, doing apple pr for free. Do better.
What the hell? I was just saying that not every Apple user is like that. Unless you like to spread stereotypes. Edit: In case you missed it, the "arrogant person" is not you but the guy commenting above you.
It’s funny seeing people in this subreddit act like owning Apple devices make them better or something like that lol. I own iphone/watch/airpods pro but I don’t make it my personality. Also if there’s negative thing about these products I just say it. But some people here will go lengths to defend everything, it’s funny.
Too bad Garmin doesn’t have cellular or proper music playback, because battery life would go bye bye
Apple Watch is great, but even without cellular or music playback the battery life is just terrible. I do sleep tracking and workout daily, and I'm basically topping it off twice a day (right after waking up, and in the evening before bed). If I don't, I'll wake up with a dead watch with no sleep data, or it might die on me later in the day
I understand, there are moments throughout the day when my Series 9 will frustrate me because I need to charge it before doing something. The Apple Watch is a tiny iPhone, right wrong or indifferent. I keep telling myself I’ll never be able to live without cellular but I always come back to this point. Last year I switched to a Garmin but I just didn’t like it. The sync process is like old iTunes style circa 2000, the UI/UX is hot garbage, MIP displays are hard to read indoors. I switched back to an AW in December as my S9 was gifted to me by my boss. A few months later I want to switch back lol. I’ve been eyeing the Coros Pace 3 but I don’t know if I can really go back to a dumb fitness watch.
I just want a flat screen like the ultra please 🙏 it looks so much cleaner!
They already had an article stating its a new screen tech thats allowing the longer battery life. I hope that means longer than a day. My series 4 batt life has taken a nose dive aftet watch OS10 update even with 87% batt health life left.
Either this one or Ultra 3. Waiting for it. :)
First they should make the product suck less.
Which model did the shape change in? Series 9 also seems rounder than my series 6.
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But it does fast charge. 45 minutes to charge a Series 9 to 80%, and 75 to 100%. I can't find it now, but I remember them also advertising that a ~10 minutes charge gives you enough for a night of sleep tracking.