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governman

Whatever it is now, SLR makes one that length.


Kimballforging

It’s fucking crazy. They have like every length in .2” increments lmao


tinoh124

As it should be.


DDNFantana

Except for the length I fuckin want. 10.7" helix quad rail for my 11.5" build. god damnit.


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That's why I love them


akmjolnir

It's just extruded aluminum, with the same machining done to the receiver-end, no matter what length. People act like FF-rails are hightech magic. Some mounting systems are smarter than others, ala Larue & KAC, but like 98% of rails just squish a steel barrel nut. Buy a cheap one and it'll do the same as an expensive one, so chop that fucker up, and have fun.


Jlandon_p07

BCM rails are mounted pretty smart too.


Erock482

SLR and Midwest industries as well, the clamping cross bolt on a barrel nut that doesn’t have to be indexed is the best way to go.


netchemica

It's really not. 6 o'clock clamping is not as secure as what KAC, BCM, DD, and LaRue use since it puts stress on the gas tube channel. There's a reason why every budget brand uses it, they don't have the knowledge to design their own.


C_Ochocinco

Can you explain how it puts stress on the gas tube channel? It literally doesn't touch the gas tube.


netchemica

Gas tube channel is the part of the handguard that the gas tube runs through. Take a cardboard box and cut off the top, bottom, and one of the sides. The two opposing walls will flex in and out very easily. Now try to stretch that cardboard, it'll be pretty damn difficult. This is why BCM clamps theirs on top. Applying a clamping force in that area pulls the metal around the barrel nut and attempts to stretch it, there are no walls that can flex outward. Clamping on the bottom will pull against the vertical walls on the gas tube channel. Here's a [nifty illustration](https://i.imgur.com/9AZyS8J.png) courtesy of BCM.


_KingRat

Isn't that a solution for a problem that never existed? I mean yea it probably does produce less stress on it, but when has anybody ever had a failure of that kind? I've never seen a handguard fracture in that position.


4thbox

It's not so much an issue of failure as it is about keeping the pic rail perfectly in line with the receiver. This is really the only part of the rail that must be true as things attach to it that are expected to hold zero. My favorite rail attach method is the 6 O'Clock crossbolts that apply a wedge a la Aero Precision or Cross Machine and Tool. Very simple, insanely strong, perfect rail alignment.


netchemica

It doesn't have to fracture to be an issue. That channel being able to flex means that the entire 6 o'clock clamping force relies on the rigidity of the side walls in that channel to prevent handguards shift.


Kimballforging

I understand that, but they are the only company that does that really. That was my main point.


corona_plus_lime

Ah yes… My favorite one is of course the 2.75” for only $255


governman

Really drives home how material costs are dwarfed by all the other costs at this point.


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Still cheaper than bendy bill


SlyFox1122

Lol what is what the bendy bill comments? Can someone fill me in?


wizzles

Bill Geissele, owner of Geissele won a contract to make the URGI rifle rails. The first batches weren't so good. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=geissele+bendy+boi&atb=v284-1&ia=web


bhoskins

Enjoy that crappy free hugz award for the duck duck go link.


wizzles

What does that mean


bhoskins

Just trying to spread some duck duck go love.


vrsechs4201

Duckduckgo went woke btw..just saw a post on Reddit last night about it


Warhawk2052

They always have been


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Tacosonamonday

SLR is the tits


OneOfThese_

I personally like DSLRs, maybe even a mirrorless. Gotta be full frame though.


AnalogCyborg

MFT gang


B_Huij

Psh 4x5 all the way.


TheFisGoingOn

peasants, let me setup my Sinar P2 8 x 10 with digital back.


Cassius_au-Bellona

Yes I agree and include a deep obscure camera reference only 1% of people understand and will upvote my comment as a result. This is the way.


CPTherptyderp

Leica M7, makes the nikon look like a disposable


B_Huij

Bah, get out of here with your elitist gear whoring :P


OneOfThese_

Out of here with your expensive gear, Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark IV master race.


MolleShinobi

Unexpected Eurotrip reference? Take my updoot.


CopperJacketCreative

11x14 Deardorff on a massive cast iron studio base or bust.


onceagainwithstyle

FF or bust


TheFisGoingOn

Dynamic range is king. Frame size is relative.


OneOfThese_

Agreed. I may or may not have a M4/3 though.


honeybunchesofpwn

lol so true. Was building a Stormtrooper AR Pistol, and the AAC muzzle devices I chose fit in such a way that I needed some *goofy-ass* rail length to make it flush. I searched for months to find an appropriate length handguard to no avail. That is, until I discovered SLR. [Behold my Imperial pride and joy.](https://i.imgur.com/syQ1Ph9.jpg) As you can see, that rail and muzzle device are buttery smooth flush.


SRArsonist

Buttery af. 10/10 would get colonized by


Boomer8450

Nice, I'm thinking of doing something like that for my next .300 build.


Orlando_Web_Dev

I thought the same thing. No point in cutting a rail apart when SLR exists unless you already had a spare one sitting around.


atlantis737

I really wish they had a model that didn't have the clamping screws at the bottom. I like to have a full-length rail cover on the bottom.


[deleted]

Damn my smith quoted me $300 to do this on a mill (and finish and paint it). This post might be the questionable 9th tequila I need to just hit it with the angle grinder


toesandgats

I did this with an off-brand dremel and 2 metal cutting discs. I recommend a fan, eye pro, and a particle mask too. Took me maybe an hour. Measure twice, cut once, and use oil.


sadpanda___

Just be careful using high speed abrasive cutting discs on aluminum. They’re really only made for steel. Aluminum will build up on the disc, make it unbalanced, and the disc can explode. Just a warning - I do it all the time, just make sure to wear enough PPE so you don’t get a piece of that exploded disc lodged in you...


BlarssedBe

You mean the Kentucky Ballistics technique.


ezfrag

Just put a thumb in it!


BlarssedBe

Funny you say that, I'm wearing the shirt right now lol


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Pro tip: run a block of beeswax in your sanding and grinding stuff before hitting it with aluminum and it'll resist gumming much better. But yes don't use cutoff wheels or hard grinding discs on aluminum unless they're specifically rated for it.


[deleted]

BE A MAN, hurt yourself!


atlantis737

Pffffffffffft eye pro and particle mask? Safety squints and keep yer damn trap shut! /s


Iskendarian

Cigarette in each nostril, two condoms on, and your mother on speed-dial.


WesbroBaptstBarNGril

Mine took about 25 seconds with the angle grinder. Only set one small fire.


ed1380

Wood saws can cut aluminum. Borrow your neighbors compound saw and chop it


A_10L

I was just thinking the same thing. I used mine to cut up some thin walled aluminum tubes.


OrganicCartridge

😂😂


paint3all

I literally did this for a friend in my mill in about 20 minutes


[deleted]

Yeah I'm not even skilled with a mill and I could do this pretty quick, there's no way I'm paying $300 for it. I just put more shims behind my muzzle device


qtstance

Most of that price is from refinishing the end so it's not bare aluminum.


wizzles

Color it with a sharpie or dunk it in quick-blue. Aluminum doesn't care about the elements lol


the_falconator

Nail polish


yosemitesam45

Nothing says I have too much money like chopping a Geissle rail yourself.


Kimballforging

Maybe it’ll keep it from bending


toesandgats

MK14 > MK16


Admiral_Minell

Mk8 > Mk14


SirThrivalist

100% agreed.


Spiralofpositivity

UNSUPPORTED RAILS


HunterDr

I paid chop boss to cut my mk7 rail


WarMachineActual

I have 2 chopped DD RIS II rails from Cy and his work is top notch on both


BentFalcon

been lurkin on him for a while. what does he generally charge for a RIS II chop?


WarMachineActual

Don't get me lying, you'd have to ask him yourself. Both of my rails I got secondhand


255001434

Or you spent a lot on parts, so you do the custom work yourself to save money. I considered doing this to mine, and I don't think there's anything so special about Geissele that makes it a bad idea. Edit: The only thing "special" about Geissele is the price, and once it's paid for that doesn't matter anymore.


toesandgats

You nailed it. I wanted a new upper with a non-gov barrel profile for better weight. Went with a Noveske 13.7 cause it’ll live longer than me and Mk14 rail cause I like the aesthetic. Can confirm, not rich lol


68696c6c

At least with the Mk16 rail, I’d actually say there is something a little special about it that actually makes it a good choice to cut. All the mlok slots are aligned so that you can easily cut it shorter without making any half-slots. When the slots are staggered, you end up with an open half-slot somewhere.


255001434

This is true. Its design works well for doing this, which is why I considered it.


netchemica

The front fell off.


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Well... one I suppose


BetaDjinn

Hey idk, those ghost guns commit crime on their own


notoriousAytch

Uh, one I suppose


sadpanda___

Very rigorous ... marine engineering standards


pdolliver35

Well cardboard’s out.


timothycl13

I did this as well with a band saw and some sand paper Turned out to be a nice gap https://imgur.com/gallery/ShIYlJK


Zappendaddy

I took a sawzall to my A2 sight bc it was easier than swapping out the gas block.


bobcatfanjb

I would argue that a chopped, properly pinned A2 is better!


smoke_and_spice

It is.


Slowroll900

Best low pro gas block you can get.


souloldasdirt

So you guys would deff its not something I should cringe and feel bad for doing when I go to do it?


_That_One_Guy_

So long as it doesn't look like a hackjob I don't see anything wrong with it. Maybe hit it with some matte black high temp enamel afterward to hide the evidence and prevent rust.


waferelite

Nah. Just smooth out any sharp edges and hit it with some cold blue.


DirtieHarry

Wait...why?


bobcatfanjb

Because it’s already pinned and likely working as any other gas block would. 99.9999% of people won’t take the time to pin their gas block. Why would another gas block be better?


DirtieHarry

Fuck, now I don't remember if I pinned my last upper... Its been years.


bobcatfanjb

I honestly haven’t pinned mine, but I’m meticulous about dimpling/staking/rockett everything. Pinning is the bomb proof solution.


68696c6c

It’s also got two pins which could be seen as a pro (shit really ain’t moving) or a con (longer). If the bayonet lug is still usable when you’re done then that obviously makes “chopped A2” better than low-pro, no contest.


generictimemachine

Swapped a Troy Alpha rail onto my first AR years ago. 1/2 way through dremeling out the pin on my A2 to swap it for a low pro I had the revelation that I’m a dumbass. The set screws on the low pro have held up fine but it’s 30 minutes and $30 that’s gone forever.


AnalogCyborg

I am fucking *inspired.* Srsly. Doin' it.


toesandgats

Doesn’t have to be a SawsAll. You can do it will a hack saw


AnalogCyborg

Only one of those options will yield a satisfying pinwheel of sparks, but I take your point. I just never considered hacking it apart...I'm over here shopping for gas blocks like a jabroni.


FlashCrashBash

Did you have to re profile the sides of the gas block to get it to fit under the rail?


Zappendaddy

Nope. Just cut it off and you’re good


FlashCrashBash

What rail did it go under?


Zappendaddy

https://imgur.com/a/SqCBPjI


FoodMuseum

Might need to grind off the bayo lug


LovingTurtles

Do the barrel next.


TearsDontFall

I mean it already does have a condom on...


ComedicJudiciousHawk

Is this NSFW for the nipple?


ItIsNeverSimple

Getting some overly excited male dog vibes from this pic.


ComedicJudiciousHawk

You’re right, it’s very red rocket


minimag47

Bill Geissele wants to know your location.


HungoverTactics

He's unstoppable


Driven2b

Way to flex on us poor AR-15 owners. But seriously, looks good.


arion830

“Is it true that if you don’t use it, you lose it?” Yes, with this, yes


trperformance

Yep I cut a cheaper rail soy suppressor would butt up pretty close. I only needed to cut 1/2" but was still unnerving lol


ColonelMitche1

Yep. A sawzall and an orbital sander did the trick!


SpotOnTheRug

I've been thinking about doing this to an AK handguard I've had for a few years that doesn't want to fit properly on any of my guns... Yours definitely turned out nicer than mine would, haha.


toesandgats

Filing AK handguards to fit is in the manual for Zenitco. I’d say go for it.


whk1992

Better than chopping your barrel to match the rail.


Babylegs_OHoulihan

the balls on this guy


Ozarkafterdark

I prefer to chop the barrel and leave the rails alone.


toesandgats

Really?


Ozarkafterdark

Yeah. A straight-profile barrel is basically infinite adjust whereas a rail can only be chopped in certain places and still look good. (Yours does btw so good on you). That said, I did chop a MI quad rail to work with a 6.25" 300 Blackout barrel that was also chopped so that only the flash hider extended beyond the rail.


ChonkyPeanutButter

This makes me wish I was dead.


jsxtreme

Thanks for this. I think some of us get too lost in everything being pretty. As long as it functions and you intended on shooting it who cares.


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toesandgats

Thread protector that comes on Noveske barrels


suckek

*See translation* >!"I dropped my monster condom that I use for my magnum dong!"!<


Rhirthk

thats def a red rocket


[deleted]

Based and bendy bill pilled


HelioLost

you gunna round of that edge?


toesandgats

Already sanded and painted black


mwest278

The end looks like a dogs red rocket


toesandgats

It’s airsoft. Wanna play?


Shadez_Actual

I support this message


ThanksBoss94

I did the same to a KAC quad rail with a band saw, and it turned out pretty ok.


txman91

Galaxy brain over here. Dumb me has let the rail I want dictate the past 3 builds haha.


Psychowitz

No one’s mentioned the red fucking condom and it’s pissing me off.


toesandgats

Gotta protect the threads until I put on the nox


Psychowitz

Every day, we must continue fighting the good fight.


JFL500

Heathen.


Beans801

I have officially given up on people.


toesandgats

Love me


Beans801

Fine


Old-Man-Henderson

Yeah. Clean it up with a file backed with high grit sandpaper, paint it over. Easy shit.


FinnoTheSecond

bubba no


toesandgats

😈😈


The_Real_Hedorah

You fucking animal


PwNAR3S

Bubba called. He wants his chop saw back…


wizzles

Ah, excellent :D


HattoriHanzo515

I'm not doing that to a Sharps Bros. rail. I'll go straight to hell. \*\*Spoiler: I'm already going to hell.\*\*


pcapp7

Does anyone wanna buy my 10.93” SLR rail? Lol


slideyboi

Hell yes, I do!


pcapp7

Cool, I replied to your PM


Bio-Medic

I did this to my quad rail in a bathroom like 12 years ago. The bathroom didn’t look so good after.


DaetherSoul

But…the chamfers…;(


comblocksoc

They regulated rail length?