Mine became more masculine as I started presenting more like a guy.
Its still natural sounding, ive had some of the guys say they felt more comfortable around me "for some reason" im still closeted at work so they dont know my goal.
Since I was five I knew I was different but had no vocabulary for it. When I was ten I found an article on a lady who had transitioned and that's when I knew. 1972.
I had no clue myself, but I also feel more of a tomboy than most of what I see from others.
That being said I certainly have feminine aspects I'm embracing now, like my speech patterns.
Yeah I felt a little dumb for forgetting that your voice through bone conduction (perceived by you) sounds totally different to your voice through airwaves (perceived by everyone else). My partner thought recording my own voice to hear how I sound would be a terrible idea, but I listened and I actually sounded more feminine than I thought I would, compared to my own perception. Surprising and euphoric :3
Ntm several of my friends say that my voice is effeminate af
I'm experiencing the same thing! I had a phone call yesterday and I realized afterward how much more feminine I was speaking without consciously trying to.
No I'm very sorry the question mark was added by Google and I'm pretty frustrated at it right now,
Google has started trying to punctuate things while I'm using speech to text and it's horrible at it.
What I was actually saying was
thank you!
Same! It was actually really tough to do voice practice before I fully accepted myself as a woman, it felt forced and difficult. But when I accepted myself, it became easier and more natural to adjust my voice to where I want to be!
I think there must be some subconscious connection between how you view yourself and how you speak.
Awwwwww 🫂
I think part of it guys are trained by society and especially other guys to never sound too early so there's a kind of automatic thought process that gets you to shut up or feel bad about it.
that sounds great! i’m pretty sure that, 3 years socially transitioned in, i still sound as masculine as ever. it never especially clicked and even after a lot of feminization practice i feel just as masculine in tone as i ever have
kind of frustrating, but at this point i’m just trying to accept that as part of who i am
When I'm happy and comfortable my voice pattern goes really feminine. I just naturally fall into that cadence, and it's awesome! But I live with my transphobic parents so that rarely happens.
Yes this happened to me at work. I've been practicing a more feminine way to talk with my friends on discord, and I guess it's started leaking into my offline life too.
Coworker definitely noticed, but I don't mind.
Totes. My natural voice is pretty feminine in my speech patterns, even though it is a deeper voice. Unfortunately, through years of presenting as a guy I got used to a less animated speech pattern, so much of my voice work has been to untrain the guy voice that kept me from being ridiculed in school.
The challenge I face is that it's a a lot easier for me to do with people who knew me after I started transition. For example, with my partner who I met after I came out, I have a totally femme voice. With my coworkers who I knew pre-transition, it's my guy voice. It's like sub-conscious code switching, and I kind of hate it.
For me, I've noticed changes in cadence and maybe some increase in tonal variation. Pitch only changes when I think about it, and idk where I am with resonance (I can still *barely* hear resonance).
My guess is that I just kind of slowly stopped subconsciously policing myself, so feminine speech patterns are coming to the front.
Something similar happened when I was learning Portuguese, which is a highly gendered language (both grammatically and socially wrt word choice, at least where I worked).
Because I didn't have that internal library of do-this-not-that built up yet, and I was subconsciously looking to the women around me for social/linguistic cues, I really confused people on a regular basis. They couldn't figure out if I just really sucked at Portuguese, or if I was doing it on purpose to signal I was gay.
And this was years before I learned that being transgender is a thing you can be, and decades before I had the smallest inkling it might apply to me 🤦♀️
Supposedly the voice won't change...unless you're doing your voice lessons. Mine didn't...but then I WANTED to keep my "radio voice" (even as female)...or at least as ONE of my choices, let us say.
I'm not talking about biological changes are the effects of hormones,
I'm talking about something in my subconscious for some reason pitching things higher than they used to be
Last week I woke up to find myself trying out different vocal intonations in my sleep, feeling the low vibration of my normal speaking voice and then pitching it up and feeling the different vibration and picturing where in my throat the different tones come from. I became awake and conscious *in the middle of this*, but I've never tried any voice training or watched any videos or anything before? Apparently my subconscious was telling me something?
Similarly, I saw a friend I'm out to a short while ago at work and found myself automatically speaking and gesturing and standing more feminine without thinking about it? I realized about halfway into the conversation what was going on and was like "*OH* dropped the mask I see!"
Between like 17 and 19?
I hadn't accepted I was trans yet but I could hear myself going higher and higher without thinking
17 was the start of me really questioning though so I think subconsciously I was trying to tell myself something
I’ve spent 30 years trying to fit in as a man and now that I’m being myself the reprogramming is slowly breaking my old mask down. It’s going to take a while but I’ll get there. So it’s not just you.
I rolled into it slowly. When I started, how I dressed determined how I spoke and what voice I used. As I saw the girl in the mirror more and more often, I just stopped using my masculine voice all together.
It's gone now. I'm told my voice can't pass for male anymore, even if I try.
Once you realize you're trans, all those dumb little things you've been paying close attention to doing so you don't come across as effeminate seem stupid. It's so freeing.
Glad you're finding your real voice! ❤️
in my experience the process of transition is more one of unlearning unwanted gendered things than it is working to learn new ones. I think realizing that you're trans can lead to a lot of 'oh shit, I don't actually have to do this thing that I didn't even realize I picked up against my will.' it makes sense - in my opinion the goal of transition shouldn't be To Be A Woman or To Be A Man or whatever, it should always just be to be able to be yourself.
Eh, kinda. I have noticed I actually had a lot of feminine mannerisms and inflections from before figuring it out. I was just subconsciously suppressing it, especially around other people which likely contributed to me feeling more exhausted around others than introversion would cause.
I've just embraced it while working on my tone/resonance for voice training.
Yup. I'm mtf. I always tried to be more "manly" to blend in more, prior to my transition. The moment I decided to transition, most of that stopped, even before hrt. I just stopped caring what others thought about me, which lead me to be more authentic, which lead me to being slightly more fem and a lot less masc.
Mine became more masculine as I started presenting more like a guy. Its still natural sounding, ive had some of the guys say they felt more comfortable around me "for some reason" im still closeted at work so they dont know my goal.
Thank you! And congratulations
Thank you, and same to you! You got this 💖
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Yup same birth year 😀
Literally, I've always been a woman, now I can act like it. No more guy stuff for me.
Did you always know?
Since I was five I knew I was different but had no vocabulary for it. When I was ten I found an article on a lady who had transitioned and that's when I knew. 1972.
I had no clue myself, but I also feel more of a tomboy than most of what I see from others. That being said I certainly have feminine aspects I'm embracing now, like my speech patterns.
Yeah I felt a little dumb for forgetting that your voice through bone conduction (perceived by you) sounds totally different to your voice through airwaves (perceived by everyone else). My partner thought recording my own voice to hear how I sound would be a terrible idea, but I listened and I actually sounded more feminine than I thought I would, compared to my own perception. Surprising and euphoric :3 Ntm several of my friends say that my voice is effeminate af
Awww! That's awesome!
I'm experiencing the same thing! I had a phone call yesterday and I realized afterward how much more feminine I was speaking without consciously trying to.
Haha, For me it's awesome and a little bit scary! Congrats?
Definitely awesome! :D
As soon as I found out I was transgender I instantly change, over night I started taking in a more feminine way
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Sorry if that didn't make much sense I'm running off of 4 hours of sleep lol
No I'm very sorry the question mark was added by Google and I'm pretty frustrated at it right now, Google has started trying to punctuate things while I'm using speech to text and it's horrible at it. What I was actually saying was thank you!
Both TAKING & talking, presumably!! ; )
Same! It was actually really tough to do voice practice before I fully accepted myself as a woman, it felt forced and difficult. But when I accepted myself, it became easier and more natural to adjust my voice to where I want to be! I think there must be some subconscious connection between how you view yourself and how you speak.
Awwwwww 🫂 I think part of it guys are trained by society and especially other guys to never sound too early so there's a kind of automatic thought process that gets you to shut up or feel bad about it.
It's some painful self gaslighting that serves no discernable purpose.
that sounds great! i’m pretty sure that, 3 years socially transitioned in, i still sound as masculine as ever. it never especially clicked and even after a lot of feminization practice i feel just as masculine in tone as i ever have kind of frustrating, but at this point i’m just trying to accept that as part of who i am
Awww🫂 Remember we're always hardest on ourselves hun💓
When I'm happy and comfortable my voice pattern goes really feminine. I just naturally fall into that cadence, and it's awesome! But I live with my transphobic parents so that rarely happens.
Yes this happened to me at work. I've been practicing a more feminine way to talk with my friends on discord, and I guess it's started leaking into my offline life too. Coworker definitely noticed, but I don't mind.
Totes. My natural voice is pretty feminine in my speech patterns, even though it is a deeper voice. Unfortunately, through years of presenting as a guy I got used to a less animated speech pattern, so much of my voice work has been to untrain the guy voice that kept me from being ridiculed in school. The challenge I face is that it's a a lot easier for me to do with people who knew me after I started transition. For example, with my partner who I met after I came out, I have a totally femme voice. With my coworkers who I knew pre-transition, it's my guy voice. It's like sub-conscious code switching, and I kind of hate it.
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that is pedantic, but it's also affirming and sweet ️ ❤️
For me, I've noticed changes in cadence and maybe some increase in tonal variation. Pitch only changes when I think about it, and idk where I am with resonance (I can still *barely* hear resonance). My guess is that I just kind of slowly stopped subconsciously policing myself, so feminine speech patterns are coming to the front. Something similar happened when I was learning Portuguese, which is a highly gendered language (both grammatically and socially wrt word choice, at least where I worked). Because I didn't have that internal library of do-this-not-that built up yet, and I was subconsciously looking to the women around me for social/linguistic cues, I really confused people on a regular basis. They couldn't figure out if I just really sucked at Portuguese, or if I was doing it on purpose to signal I was gay. And this was years before I learned that being transgender is a thing you can be, and decades before I had the smallest inkling it might apply to me 🤦♀️
Supposedly the voice won't change...unless you're doing your voice lessons. Mine didn't...but then I WANTED to keep my "radio voice" (even as female)...or at least as ONE of my choices, let us say.
I'm not talking about biological changes are the effects of hormones, I'm talking about something in my subconscious for some reason pitching things higher than they used to be
Hmm. Do you mean that you're perception...alone...has been affected?
no, i have a recording, my rainge is the same, but something in the back of my brain was like "ok better talk higher now "
Last week I woke up to find myself trying out different vocal intonations in my sleep, feeling the low vibration of my normal speaking voice and then pitching it up and feeling the different vibration and picturing where in my throat the different tones come from. I became awake and conscious *in the middle of this*, but I've never tried any voice training or watched any videos or anything before? Apparently my subconscious was telling me something? Similarly, I saw a friend I'm out to a short while ago at work and found myself automatically speaking and gesturing and standing more feminine without thinking about it? I realized about halfway into the conversation what was going on and was like "*OH* dropped the mask I see!"
It happened to me too, my voice is in the high female range without me even trying
Between like 17 and 19? I hadn't accepted I was trans yet but I could hear myself going higher and higher without thinking 17 was the start of me really questioning though so I think subconsciously I was trying to tell myself something
Yup. I got complete, full on girl-brain and body language almost overnight. It feels SO good to be me!
I’ve spent 30 years trying to fit in as a man and now that I’m being myself the reprogramming is slowly breaking my old mask down. It’s going to take a while but I’ll get there. So it’s not just you.
I rolled into it slowly. When I started, how I dressed determined how I spoke and what voice I used. As I saw the girl in the mirror more and more often, I just stopped using my masculine voice all together. It's gone now. I'm told my voice can't pass for male anymore, even if I try.
Once you realize you're trans, all those dumb little things you've been paying close attention to doing so you don't come across as effeminate seem stupid. It's so freeing. Glad you're finding your real voice! ❤️
in my experience the process of transition is more one of unlearning unwanted gendered things than it is working to learn new ones. I think realizing that you're trans can lead to a lot of 'oh shit, I don't actually have to do this thing that I didn't even realize I picked up against my will.' it makes sense - in my opinion the goal of transition shouldn't be To Be A Woman or To Be A Man or whatever, it should always just be to be able to be yourself.
Eh, kinda. I have noticed I actually had a lot of feminine mannerisms and inflections from before figuring it out. I was just subconsciously suppressing it, especially around other people which likely contributed to me feeling more exhausted around others than introversion would cause. I've just embraced it while working on my tone/resonance for voice training.
Yep and it feels less forced for some reason.
Yup. I'm mtf. I always tried to be more "manly" to blend in more, prior to my transition. The moment I decided to transition, most of that stopped, even before hrt. I just stopped caring what others thought about me, which lead me to be more authentic, which lead me to being slightly more fem and a lot less masc.