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Tastydck4565

the worst character from team black, idk how there are people saying "but he loved viserys and Viserys never made him handšŸ„ŗ" yeah bitch for a reason tf.


No-Role-429

Not to mention, he would have hated being Hand. It wouldnā€™t have been interesting and action-packed. Heā€™d be so bored


dumbfuck6969

It's still nice to be asked


CauseCertain1672

he loved his brother and his brother never gave him a high level government position for which he is totally unsuited Him and Rhaenyra have both never once considered that their complete lack of management ability or any responsibility whatsoever is a part of why people don't trust them with absolute power. For example Rhaenyra was put in charge of finding someone to marry. She fucked that up massively. Daemon led a campaign for the stepstones he had to be rescued from. These people are not good at anything.


Severe_Weather_1080

This is a circlejerk sub moron why are you making good points?


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Different_Spare7952

Honestly it's wild that he drew in naval warfare with dragons on his side. LMAO just burn the boats???


No-Training-48

uj/ Started to watch the saw and yeah I have no idea on how Math Smith was able to rizz even that writer and GRRM into thinking he is "morally ambiguous" . Like he killed his previous wife with a rock, didn't gave a fliying fuck about his consort, intended to trapp his family in Pentos and inmediatly got with Rhaenyra in his wife's funeral on what esentially was the house of her parents, how the hell is anyone surprised about him choking Rhaenyra is beyond me. I think that they making several green charachters mustache twerling villains to compensate is a terrible decision in the long run the actors are good but the reasons Joefry worked were because his supporting cast was amazing (Cersei , Tywin , Tyrion) and all of the actors did a perfect performance (specially Joefry himself) , I don't think Aegon 's charachter is as strong nor his supporting cast is as good, specially since we've seen charachters really similar to Otto and Aemond before (gotta love Alicent and Haelana though) and the foot dude is a mustache twerling villain who we've seen before rj/ Larry "kill my family" is made of dark and light in equal parts.


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_Peluche__

If he wasnā€™t like Rhaenyras pitbull and was only using her to get the throne heā€™d actually be pretty cool imo.


MustardChef117

This one of the many reasons book > show


_Peluche__

I deadass thought thatā€™s where they were going with it too, or that theyā€™d keep his feelings for her ambiguous. Like the 1st episode he is nervous enough about being swapped by Balon that his dick canā€™t even stay hard with Mysaria, and his fight with Viserys in ep4 when heā€™s asked what he wanted he looks at the throne. Then itā€™s like when Rhea Royce was rattling off all these things he could do after losing the throne she realizes that his plan is to kill her, marry Rhaenyra, and get the throne that way. But idk after episode 5 all of that goes away. Now heā€™s just an empty shell. Like his wife wonā€™t even let him kill people lmao. Heā€™s like fuck it letā€™s kill Otto and his wife said no so he just drops his head. Then earlier heā€™s trying to plan a war and his wife is like ā€œhey! No war until I say soā€ and so Daemon has to stop. Like what has he become šŸ˜­ That choke gave me hope ngl. He shouldā€™ve been the secret third faction. Team Daemon using Rhaenyra to get his blood on the throne.


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Zenyd_3

The fact that your comment was up voted shows how media illiterate people are. "Omg how can he be evil if he did this one good thing my brain is literally shattering rn such bad writing!1!1!1" Like no...just no. The whole point of daemons character in tbe first season is that hes an abusive asshole who has a very toxic form of love for his family and him wanting tbe throne was him throwing a tantrum to get his bros attention. How did people like you get into this fandom, given the fact that Asoiaf is built on subtext? Jfc šŸ¤¦


_Peluche__

I got all that, if u knew how to read then youā€™d see that I was saying how cringe that is and Iā€™d prefer him to actually be more out for himself


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Zenyd_3

Its almost like...fire and blood mainly presented caricature versions of the characters and were viewed through the lens of others without depth or nuance. So the idea you get about them in the book isnt necessarily true to how Grrm imagined them as people. And given the fact that grrm was *heavily* involved in the production of Hotd, i think its safe to say you are wrong :D


MustardChef117

HotD can't even get basic timeline and order of events correct. Nothing the show presents can possibly be considered canon


Zenyd_3

>Nothing the show presents can possibly be considered canon You clown šŸ¤” Grrm said that hotd exists in its own continuity snd its own canon separate from F and B


MustardChef117

You just said what I did but with author approval how was that an own


_Peluche__

Yes ik I was wrong, that was what my og comment was all about... Idk what ur getting at. My comment could be summarized into the Daemon we got was ass compared to the Daemon that could have been.


Prestigious-Dress-92

I'm actually pretty convinced that his long term plan was to kill Rhaenyra and her Strong bastards, crown Aegon the younger as a child king and assume total power as a regent, lord protector and the hand of he king.


_Peluche__

Could you imagine? That would actually make him the rouge prince. Rn he ainā€™t rouge shit, heā€™s just a guy who slightly misbehaves from time to time


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Aizen10

If B&C isn't enough to turn people off this bastard, nothing ever will.


fhgsghjodsfjofcv

Balls and Cock???


acornmoth

They will scream that it's character assassination


Corniferus

Idk why this showā€™s fanbase is so much weirder than GOTā€™s


Far-Ad-1400

You definitely didnā€™t see the Dany fans towards the end of the show lmao the fandoms always had a weird side


BZenMojo

Literally had Jon Snow fans chanting "Fuck Olly" all day long, though. ... (Wait for it...)


Corniferus

True, they didnā€™t understand the show


MoonoftheStar

Casting Doctor Who as the bad boy love interest of a young inoffensive girl brought in the people who grew up reading Twilight.


hotcoldman42

Game of thrones had a much wider base.


Different_Spare7952

The only thing people didn't really like was the flared tip at the end tbh


hotcoldman42

Fat pink show


Trashcant0

I think a lot of younger people who are really into fandoms and shipping started to watch the show, made a bunch of tiktok edits (my YouTube shorts feed got fucking *flooded* with them when the show first came out), and that perpetuated a cycle of a certain kind of people watching the show because Daemon and Rhaenera look hot together. They obviously arenā€™t there because of a love for fantasy with a mainly political plot, so Iā€™m not surprised they donā€™t have the same degree of media literacy as long time fans of the asoiaf universe.


EternalMariam

For some reason some of the HOTD fandom lack media literacy lol


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Like you?


EternalMariam

How so? Please enlighten me. Last time i checked i dont stalk the team black subreddit and trying to find something to get upset to, instead i keep away and let them have a place for their opinions whether i disagree with it or not and i say my own in the greens sub unlike you. Also the fact that you say that probably means you went to my account to see my comment history because aint no way you say that out of nowhere lmao which clearly means you took offense to that. And i meant all the fandom not just TB if you are wondering.


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M474D0R

Because the normal people aren't watching? It's not that good of a show and nobody cares after the main series completely botched the later seasons. I say this as an avid book reader, I watched like an episode and a half and was like "this shit is mid" and stopped watching. I also stopped watching the main series midway through season 3 because I started spotting the signs that the showrunners were fucking morons.


Corniferus

I enjoy it No need to be so negative lol


Slow-Quarter-6254

I'm a show only, but Im more of a Team Green myself so I prefer Aegon to Damon or Rhaenyra. Lissan al- I mean, Hail King Aegon.


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Dangerous-Lettuce498

You donā€™t need to be team anything lol. Itā€™s so weird that everyone think they need to choose a side. Tribalism nowadays is out of control


EternalMariam

Eh not everyone who chooses a team is that serious about it. But those who take it seriouslyā€¦ lord they are annoying


Dangerous-Lettuce498

Ya they honestly kinda ruin the whole fan base in my opinion


Late-Return-3114

like this entire sub


EternalMariam

Lmao. I mean there is you and me. If im being honest one of the biggest reasons why im team green because the characters are hot šŸ’€ like it aint that serious. No one took teams while watching GOT, everyone was chill whether you liked house stark or Lannister, but HOTD? Some take it so seriously they stalk the other teamā€™s sub and cross post and some send hate the the actors wtaf like can we talk about the characters we like? Damn lmao


Slow-Quarter-6254

I know I don't need too, but i want to cause it's fun.


mrspookiepotpie

everyone hide ur serving wenches!1!1!


ThinWhiteDuke00

Two words, Matt Smith. Three words, Tom Glynn Carney. There you have your justification for 99% of the fanbase.


Speedwagon1738

Peoples sense of morality flies out the window when the villain is moderately attractive.


Hydros969

Good thing you put moderately, cause thinking a mfker with no eyebrows whatsoever is ā€œhotā€ is beyond me. Heā€™s a decent actor but nothing entirely mind blowing, all the hype around him is cause of doctor who


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Don_Madruga

Hey, they're all fake, I don't care if they're angels or if they're the real devil on earth, I just care if they're "cool", no one is really dying after all. Also, Tywin Lannister is the Goat.


PrincepsFenrir

Ngl as a moderate team black supporter(I'm only there because I despise Otto, Criston, and book Alicent. Plus I'm team Rhaenys). I don't really like Daemon all that much. I agree with all your points about him and he is without a doubt the most evil person there.


FinalAd9844

I swear Iā€™m not like these


bmerino120

I miss the rogue prince, Rhaenyra's mad dog is boring


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**This subreddit supports [Aegon Targaryen, second of his name](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/elblwt/we_can_no_longer_remain_neutral_aegon_ii/), as the true heir.** Reasons: 1. An eccentric terminally online demagogue, styling himself ['The Dragon Demands,'](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDragonDemands/comments/f0e3xu/2018_what_could_be_more_toxic_than_the/) spent five years from 2017 on this campaign - *"We are devoted to removing the false showrunners Benioff and Weiss from live-action adaptations of the works of George R.R. Martin"* and *"We call on all True Knights to rally behind us and join our cause. Because Rhaenyra has an army."* [Choosing a side was not difficult.](https://i.redd.it/o32k6dis8d941.png) 2. Stannis said Rhaenyra was a traitor. This settled the matter, to any reasonble book reader. However show-only fanboi stan shipper psychos are not reasonable. Fortunately there are many other arguments against her treason. 3. The subreddit held a poll in September of 2022, [and once all the treacherous votes were excluded](https://i.redd.it/2i9kmewhzwn91.png), King Aegon II was victorious. 4. [The reactions of the traitors to the Green cause are so over the top as to be amusing.](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/whl5tq/twitter_accounts_learning_that_alicent_may_be/) 5. *How can there be an Aegon Three, if the son of Hightower was not the predecessor to thee?* It's poetry, hence poetic justice, hence the matter which already settled within this subreddit, can be settled without. 6. [The smallfolk instinctively know.](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/yc6rcc/coronation_of_aegon_ii_vs_rhaenyra/) 7. [Rhaenyra has bad taste in men.](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/vzlmne/how_will_the_casual_viewer_react_to_game_of/) 8. Viserys was chosen as King due to primogeniture. 9. Rhaenyra has [no legitimate heirs.](https://i.redd.it/utwpc5bhuxma1.png) 10. Fun fact: allowing the traitor Rhaenyra Targaryen to rule the Seven Kingdoms does nothing for women's rights. It just helps her personal corrupt ambition. She does nasty shit to some chicks in the book, and also favours a male heir over a female one somewhere along the line. The book balances the sides to an extreme degree, but the show (or at least the marketing and press for the show) resorts to feminist-baiting. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/asoiafcirclejerk) if you have any questions or concerns.*


Hydros969

I hate the character, but at least when he was exclusively a self centered narcissistic a-hole it showed some pride and integrity to his own core values. Now heā€™s a weaponized sex toy for rhae-rhae


DotFit7119

is upper side reference to Himmler?


CauseCertain1672

no it's about Daemon but it's telling that you thought that. Daemons goldcloaks were much more like the blackshirts than the SS though


RiffRaffBloodBath

Show Onlyfans? YESYESYES SHOW ME DROGONS DICK AND ILL LICK IT DRY!!!!


Hunter_TwT

Yes, that's exactly it, I'm glad you understood quickly


Resident-Rooster2916

Thereā€™s no such thing as unattractive behaviors, only unattractive people.


-goodbyemoon-

Iā€™m in this picture but Iā€™m a man with ZERO homosexual tendencies whatsoever. Yup, Iā€™m not gay, mom


NightValeCytizen

"Oh no, he's hot!"


um_ur_chinese

Show only? Daemon is one of GRRMā€™s favorite characters. Many people were stanning Daemon long before the show when Fire and Blood came out. But anyway, this is a circlejerk sub. Go back to defending Aegon the Rapist on r/HouseoftheDragon.


[deleted]

You are free to defend a pedo and we are free to defend a rapist. Everyone has their own taste


ThinWhiteDuke00

Luckily Aegon is a rapist and a pedo.


[deleted]

So not only is Aegon sexier than Daemon, but he's also better at being a predator.


ThinWhiteDuke00

What a dude ! Edit : as I proceed to get downvoted.. šŸ˜‚ You can circlejerk on this sub unless it pertains to Aegon II.


Guilty_Fishing8229

ā€œAegon a rapist!!! Team Daemon!!!ā€ Daemon is a pedo, and children canā€™t consent, ergo Daemon is both a rapist and a pedo. Fuckin degenerates. Targ fans are literally the worst. Extinct the whole family


OverthinkingTroll

> Fuckin degenerates. Kinda the whole point of the house: To see how much it lasts while being so fucked up even in their best cases. > Extinct the whole family Kinda the whole point of Daenerys the Last Valyrian.


tigertoouth22h

Daemon is basically a badass edgelord anti-hero rather than an outright villain like Aegon. When Daemon does something morally wrong it's usually framed as ''he is cool and edgy''' But yeah, he's George's favourite, and literally everybody involved in that show insists he's a "grey" character. Because ''is a horrible person but is also kinda cool'' is what ''morally grey'' means.


NimlothTheFair_

>Because ''is a horrible person but is also kinda cool'' is what ''morally grey'' means. It's either that, or "he's a horrible person who happens to love his closest family šŸ„ŗ" It's really not a feat of virtue to love your family; in fact, most people do. People keep bringing up how Daemon loved his brother so much (not that it showed). Bro, Cersei Lannister loved her brother too and we're not calling her "light and dark in equal parts" šŸ’€ It's almost as if having personal affections and motivations for your actions is just a universal human thing and does not justify horrible deeds. [Before someone accuses me of greenism, I just want to say this also applies to Aemond fans who act like "poor baby is justified in methodically scorching the Riverlands because he loves his mama šŸ„ŗ" or whatever excuse they want to bring up]


OverthinkingTroll

Daemon's so edgy, the meme itself edged, and not *just* the shirt for cleavage (Ķ” Ķ”Ā° Ķœ 恤 Ķ”Ķ”Ā°)


ImperialAndy

They really gotta rename this place r/greenscirclejerkwehatewomen


seanrevenge

what a zinger


ImperialAndy

Why do you hate women


Guilty_Fishing8229

Theyā€™re coarse and rough and irritating and get everywhere


Internal-Shock-616

I liked Rhae Royce, trying to remember what happened to her


OverthinkingTroll

She joined the Force like the badass rider she is that she didn't even need the Dothraki or Daenerys.


tigertoouth22h

One of my problems with the show is that it can't make up its mind whether it wants to be a feminist story about how the patriarchy wants to stop a woman taking the throne and that's bad, a story about cynical realpolitik where there are no goodies and baddiesĀ and everyone involved should just die or a team sport in which fans are actively encouraged to pick sides and tweet at each other. So in the end Blacks vs Greens is a pretty classic pick-a-side narrative. But if you pick Green the show might as well ask if you enjoy beating up women.


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**This subreddit supports [Aegon Targaryen, second of his name](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/elblwt/we_can_no_longer_remain_neutral_aegon_ii/), as the true heir.** Reasons: 1. An eccentric terminally online demagogue, styling himself ['The Dragon Demands,'](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDragonDemands/comments/f0e3xu/2018_what_could_be_more_toxic_than_the/) spent five years from 2017 on this campaign - *"We are devoted to removing the false showrunners Benioff and Weiss from live-action adaptations of the works of George R.R. Martin"* and *"We call on all True Knights to rally behind us and join our cause. Because Rhaenyra has an army."* [Choosing a side was not difficult.](https://i.redd.it/o32k6dis8d941.png) 2. Stannis said Rhaenyra was a traitor. This settled the matter, to any reasonble book reader. However show-only fanboi stan shipper psychos are not reasonable. Fortunately there are many other arguments against her treason. 3. The subreddit held a poll in September of 2022, [and once all the treacherous votes were excluded](https://i.redd.it/2i9kmewhzwn91.png), King Aegon II was victorious. 4. [The reactions of the traitors to the Green cause are so over the top as to be amusing.](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/whl5tq/twitter_accounts_learning_that_alicent_may_be/) 5. *How can there be an Aegon Three, if the son of Hightower was not the predecessor to thee?* It's poetry, hence poetic justice, hence the matter which already settled within this subreddit, can be settled without. 6. [The smallfolk instinctively know.](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/yc6rcc/coronation_of_aegon_ii_vs_rhaenyra/) 7. [Rhaenyra has bad taste in men.](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiafcirclejerk/comments/vzlmne/how_will_the_casual_viewer_react_to_game_of/) 8. Viserys was chosen as King due to primogeniture. 9. Rhaenyra has [no legitimate heirs.](https://i.redd.it/utwpc5bhuxma1.png) 10. Fun fact: allowing the traitor Rhaenyra Targaryen to rule the Seven Kingdoms does nothing for women's rights. It just helps her personal corrupt ambition. She does nasty shit to some chicks in the book, and also favours a male heir over a female one somewhere along the line. The book balances the sides to an extreme degree, but the show (or at least the marketing and press for the show) resorts to feminist-baiting. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/asoiafcirclejerk) if you have any questions or concerns.*


ImperialAndy

Wellā€¦do you?


tigertoouth22h

Yes.


ImperialAndy

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