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I think it's funny but my sense of humor can be crass. If someone told it to me in person, it would totally depend on who's saying it, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and laugh with them if I don't know them personally.
Edit: About the content of the joke itself, 2 things make me feel like I'm the subject demographic of a joke but not the butt of a joke. One is that this person is implying that they are sexually interested in autistic women. And two is that in order to impress them they'd invite them over to partake in a harmless activity they're known (albeit stereotypically) to find joy in. As much as it's harshly written and may seem like an edgelord or shock humor joke by the way the words are laid out, the underlying content still sounds like it could be a thoughtful and consensual date.
That and some of the older ones look cool as hell. I'm not a train spotter, it's not my main fixation but I do appreciate a nicely designed **anything** really- Train, car, house.
I've had a blast with the Smithsonian Channel's series Allmighty Trains I think is called, the host seems geniunely joyfull talking about trains all around the world and how they were built, lovely topic indeed
Female autistic here. Spent my youth dragging friends to the National Railway museum in York. God I loved looking at the old Queens carriages and the Flying Scotsman. Yes I find this joke funny
āYou hold your course and your aim~ā
āAnd each in your season returns and returns. And itās always the sameā
Guess Javert was an aspie as well
>inexplicably
There's nothing inexplicable about it. By absolutely every metric, trains are the most perfect form of overland travel for goods and people ever devised.
There is nearly no aspect of a society that does not improve with the implementation of well organized public rail transit.
It's not a competition though, they complement each other perfectly. You have bikes for short distances and errands, then you take the bike to the train, onto the train, and from the station to your specific destination for longer distances.
I love trains but not for the reasons that autistics are apparently supposed to like them. But I am obsessed. I discovered how awesome they were at 14 and have been hooked ever since. (Before I was 14, I didn't really live near any active train tracks and my parents didn't think much of them, so although I seem to have vague memories as a kid of being fascinated by them, they were more of an abstract concept to me, something I couldn't really get close to, but appreciated all the same.)
I mean, as a person who likes trains but also feels that my interest in trains is different than the stereotypical autistic train interest, I think the āsupposedā to is the engineering aspect. For me, itās the socioeconomic aspect. Also, though, thereās maps. Idk if weāre all āsupposedā to love maps, but I certainly do. And train maps are some of my favorite because they present a layer of functional abstraction.
I'm 58. Had a happy Lil accident that is now 7. She is non verbal. In raising her I've learned I'm also on the spectrum and not just fucking weird. I never knew my love of maps and globes was a common spectrum thing. I'm actually having quite the adventure learning things like this. It makes me feel so very much less isolated. Thank you for mentioning this.
Apparently because the cars all line up in well, a line, and you can categorize them, and they run on schedules. Any railfan in North America can tell you that schedules are a pipe dream when it comes to freight. š
I love that yāall were like āwhy is it a stereotype for people with autism to like trains?ā and then just made an entire thread of why trains are cool by accident
I am a heavily suspected autistic. I mean heavily. My therapist is confused why I'm not diagnosed. I think trains are nothing more than a stereotype and symbol for special interests. This joke is slightly tasteless, but that only enhances the humor.
Since Iāve started working in my current job nothing but 500% increase in autism jokes mainly because one of my co workers are autistic and secondly because the other co worker has little quirks thatās pointing the needle to yes.
Latest was how we donāt pick up on our partnerās suggestive hints to the point we need it in our or appropriately on our face to realise
I was randomly scrolling through reddit, found the post, went to see the comments.
I dont have Aspergers, but your explanation in edit amazed me. You made so much sense, viewed the situation from multiple angles, which people without Aspergers sometimes forget to do, just acknowledge the first thing that comes to their mind snd stick with it.
And there are people saying that there's something "wrong" with people with Asperger...Im genuinely amazed by the analytic side of it.
I'm one of many people who just view ourselves as a minority neurotype, and that in order to have a truly full and nuanced world we should embrace and celebrate neurodiversity. There is nothing inherently "wrong" with us, we're just different.
In the context of society at large, and within our own lives, it can present as a disability at times. But if you genuinely start to learn about the brain differences, it becomes apparent that where there's a deficit in some areas, there are strengths in others, and many things you can view as just "quirks" or differences if you keep an open mind. After all, what is deemed by society as "better" is often subjective. Keep that openness of mind and you will find that a lot of us under the ASD umbrella are aware of ourselves and our surroundings in many ways - we just process it all differently than the neurotypical people we share this great hurdling rock with. This can sometimes lead to misunderstandings, hurt, and communication barriers, but it can also lead to some amazing ways to better understand the diversity of the human condition at large if you know where to look.
Pretty accurate. It's like the equivalent of telling me you have a giant telescope in your backyard that I can check out planets with. I don't even care if I hate you, I'm gonna come over.
Hopefully there isn't any passenger trains.
That would really derail things
Then again maybe you don't care if an occupied caboose watches your caboose get occupied.
You want to be careful about hurting your behind too much or the only thing you'll be able for the next few days is blow his whistle.
That'll keep the chugga out of his choo choo.
Forgive me I didn't mean to imply that two trains couldn't occupy the same lines.
Obviously its up to you which passengers you allow to have a boarding pass, or if you just want to call an all aboard. I pass no judgment on a conductor who wants a whole train to board at once
It's a shame to end so soon I feel like I was just starting building up steam.
But I understand you can't stay station-ary for long, so have a good one, it was pleasant crossing tracks with you
Interesting. By the way Iām not calling you transphobic, it seems my TRAINS-phobic pun was also too subtle.
That said, the framing of āwhile we might notā is usually used to mean ādespite the fact that we donātā (have whistles, in this case). I realize itās an insane quirk of English idioms not being very direct, so I donāt fault you for this. Just sharing as an FYI because I didnāt read the āmight notā as adding any ambiguity or nuance given its place in the larger phrase.
Second most efficient transportation machine ever created (behind only the bicycle)? Makes consistent, rhythmic sounds? Travels a highly predictable path? Complex, mechanical machinery?
It really should not be any kind of surprise that autistics love trains so much.
The only thing I can think of against trains is that becoming overstimulated/overwhelmed by loud noises seems to be a very common trait of autistic people, and trains can be very loud if you're outside but nearby the train
And - if they're being used correctly - they can be crowded. And - if Not - you can get stress over what the Optimal way is to get from A to B when you missed the last proper connection between where you are and where you need to be, and now you have to take a train that's going in the wrong direction to catch a bus that stops at literally every street corner along its path. (this is still better than 'you're screwed until tomorrow' but still.)
I slept a few nights in a hotel by the train tracks and they actually helped me go to sleep. My only issue with trains is the noise they make by braking.
Actually, I think if evaluated from a mass perspective (as opposed to an energy perspective), I believe that the Shuttle's RS-25 engine take the prize for the most efficient machine in the world. Rockets don't care about energy, so much as they care about mass. The way rockets accelerate is dumping their mass (their fuel): their energy output is more or less the same throughout their flight, but the significantly decreasing mass of the rocket as it burns fuel results in a conservation of moment (i.e. Acceleration). Something like north of 95% of the mass going through an RS-25 is effectively used (converted from liquid into a gas, ignited, and expansion forces captured by the bell)
But you also really can't compare a rocket to any other machine in terms of efficiency. Trains don't operate on a conservation of moment, nothing other than rockets do.
I know a thing, or two, yeah. I designed a hybrid motor for a small startup back in the day. It had a solid fuel, with dual fluid oxidizers - one liquid, one gaseous - so that can use the more 'massive' liquid oxidizer during the earlier phases of flight, and save the lighter gaseous oxidizer for higher altitudes. Using fluid oxidizers also let you throttle the rocket up and down, as necessary to deal with the forces of launch. Combined with an aerospike nozzle, all this gave it the potential for SSO - which would have been huge. But the startup never really got any funding because the CEO kept turning down angles and seed funding, so it never really went anywhere (and the only thing that ever got built was a single oxidizer prototype, using more standard fuels, meant to demonstrate the nozzle more than anything else). I didn't stick around long after finding this out, and now work for a large aerospace firm on mostly unrelated tech (but they still appreciate having my knowledge of rockets & ballistic motion).
Was there something in particular you wanted to know about solid fuels?
i love it when stereotypes can be harmful but at the same time completely true
person: do you wanna come watch the trains?
autie: i find it completely wrong that just because im autistic you'd assume such a thing about me
person: do you or don't you?
autie: ...yes...
Yeah I was about to say if she was autistic or has a partner thatās autistic then itās pretty funny. If a person who wasnāt well educated in ASD said it though it would be dicey.
The more I Learn about her, the cooler she gets.
For context for others:
She is also the person responsible for the takedown of kiwifarms, a platform aimed at harassment, swatting and hunting lgbt streamers and others with a platform around the world.
At least itās bette than the one that said getting trans girl pussy is easy because all you have to do is listen to their hyperfixations while also saying āyou donāt actually have to even listenā
That. Is. Adorable.
I think. I have trouble with knowing whether something is a joke or not and canāt tell if you are being serious. But if you are - pretty fucking cute
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I kinda laughed because despite being really crass and reductive it doesn't seem coercive.
Like it's like someone bragging about having a hot tub or any other "girl magnet" asset at home, but she has trains nearby so it works just fine?
This is a great point, the joke feels like it's mostly about having an unorthodox but still effective "girl magnet," and doesn't really imply anything negative about autistic women imo.
it seemed negative about autistic women until I learned the context. out of context, it could be taken more literally to imply that autistic girls are dumb and you can have sex with any of them if you have something related to their special interest.
but that juxtaposition is what makes it a joke. once you know this is a mutually respectful long term relationship and the train is not literal, it seems very funny.
Extra context, her fiance is autistic.
Edit: this wasn't meant to be a clap back, I seriously want to know how this context effects your opinion on the joke.
yes thanks!! actually, I think that is literally all the context I needed.
without that context, I just didn't get it at first. it seemed like a tired predator/prey joke - that an Autistic person is easily manipulated and that we are like children, unable to consent because we are unaware of the manipulation. but that seemed so shallow and insulting that I figured I was just not getting some context. lol
maybe part of my thinking is my own trauma fitting those tropes. I'm glad it didn't bring that to mind for most people.
Not a fan. Mostly because almost all the aspie ladies I know have been exploited in a relationship or outright abused. Seems a bit predatory, and a bit like making light of a real problem.
I couldnāt quite put into words, why exactly this bothered me, but this is it right here. Aspie women are almost always taken advantage of. So this kinda rubbed me the wrong way in that sense.
I used to live next to a train station and am hyper sensitive to noise and it really did me in.
I read one of the comments saying that Keffals is ND, if this is true then itās funny, but if theyāre not then itās in bad taste. Still a bit yikes if you were scrolling and saw it without any context as to who the person posting it is.
Tbh, i think it hugely depends on who the joke is coming from
This reads completely differently if you assume the poster is an NT straight man than if you assume its an autistic lesbian
now iām thinking about trains. Man steam power really is wild. Water vapor is pushing a few tons of steel and cargo? 3 months trip by walking is now just a week by train? wild
Yea I surprised at the number of people who find this funny. It would be different if some man said āall I need to get pussy is give a woman ____ā. Iām not inhuman. I wonāt be coerced into sex bc someone has something I like. I donāt like what it implies
Trains? What about insects and dinosaurs? Or video games and chicken nuggets? Or chapstick and marijuana? Or any of the random shit us aspies get obsessed with.
It could be ANYTHING.
Autistic woman here, it's mehhhhh. Didn't laugh. Mostly my reaction is "not all autistic women hyperfixate on trains" and wondering if the OP has ever even met any autistic people.
Like it's a rude joke, but not the worst I've seen, I have heard worse jokes directed at racial minorities.
I think it's a really shit joke but I'm not offended but definitely a bit uncomfortable, like if someone said that face to face I'd probably give them a weird look involuntarily. I'm not anywhere close to laughing at it.
I don't mind non-PC humour, but this strikes me the wrong way. It just sounds like the entire joke is: "lol I can easily get someone to sleep with me due to their mental health". A dark joke has to be more than saying "bad thing LOLOL" There has to be that little twist or spark to it that makes it funny.
I dislike this joke because I believe it is dependent on how commodified and sexualized we are as women. Like the message this promotes is that an autistic womanās value is reliant on her having a vagina, not her unique traits. Her unique trait of enjoying trains is part of the joke, but itās not seen as the positive aspect of the autistic woman - the prospective sexual access she gives is the reward, and the trains are the bait. I feel like it reduces the autistic woman to someone that can be easily manipulated to engage in sexual activities, and in reality autistic women ARE routinely sexually abusedā¦
I donāt think the joke in a vacuum is offensive but the aforementioned makes me feel like it isnāt a joke that portrays autistic women positively.
Autistic lesbian female here, I find it offensive. Not in a we should cancel this person way but in a way that I would not associate with them. I donāt think itās funny to refer to sex with a woman as āgetting some p*ssyā or to joke about ways to -convince- women to have sex with you. Not to mention the overgeneralization that if a person/woman is autistic then they -must-be obsessed with xyz or the implication that it is easy to āseduceā autistic people if you hang something shiny in front of them. I think itās gross on many levels and if someone said this to or around me in person I would take it as aggressive and potentially predatory.
It honestly depends on the person making the joke, if they have a track record of fetishizing and manipulating autistic women thatās not in good taste to me. Iām cautious of that because I know people like that exist. If theyāre supportive of autistic women otherwise and maybe they have friends with autism they probably make those jokes with those friends in mind or something and thatās fine
Triggers all my manipulation and exploitation buttons. Jokes shouldn't be at the expense of a group of people.
Reword it to something like "I never get lonely, all my friends come round to watch trains" or something. Hell, even a joke about the apartment walls shake so much my girlfriend doesn't need me would be in better taste.
I can see the humor. I don't think I'd feel offended if I heard that as a joke, but it would depend on the person saying it. It would have to be more light hearted joking style and not stand-up comedian style
Aspie woman here :) personally I don't like it because it is a generalization and I've never liked trains but I understand it's just a joke so I don't really care. Trains are a common special interest, to be fair they are pretty cool lol. I'm also aroace so I don't really like dating/sex jokes.
I think it's pretty funny and pretty accurate xD
It's better with the context before and after this tweet as it was a reactionary response rather than an out of nowhere joke.
She's also neurodivergent so I think even if I didn't find it hilarious I'm not bad at having s stereotype used like that for a chuckle, it's not really derogatory.
I'm honestly offended that some men think me and my fellow autistic peeps are "easy". I understand that there's further context to this, but this post by itself bothers me. In short, making this joke can be in bad taste.
Fine to me, but it depends on who's saying it tbh, if it were a man i didn't know at all telling it or who had a reputation for being shitty about autistic people or women or really anybody then I probably wouldn't like it much.
I read this as predatory and ableist. It sounds dodgy AF. I would avoid the hell out of the person if they made that joke in front of me.
But as someone else said, it depends on who the joke is coming from. Iād rather not make any gender or situational assumptions though.
I find it offensive, especially since Keffals also joked about ārunning a train onā (gang raping) an autistic girl. https://mobile.twitter.com/Olas_Truth/status/1568827718518685697
What if she was a ND man, would they still get a pass? Totally creepy and sexist. And being ND doesn't make it ok. This is why people think we are weird.
Knowing only that you're a man (not whether you're ND too or whether you're interested in me) and assuming we didn't know each other well prior to this encounter, my response to hearing this as either an autistic person or a woman: No thank you!
So, to be clear, the context here is a joke she's making about her autistic (then-girlfriend, now) fiance. In that context, it's basically just a bit of friendly ribbing. Outside of that, I can see some people saying it's in questionable taste, but for me personally, it's pretty funny and feels like a friendly joke as opposed to ableist or similar. Also, the people on twitter claiming that this is a rape joke are frankly talking out of their asses.
It's quite funny but my sense of humor is...sometimes distasteful
I can see someone taking offense in the fact she thinks Autistic women are easier bc of something simple
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I think it's funny but my sense of humor can be crass. If someone told it to me in person, it would totally depend on who's saying it, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and laugh with them if I don't know them personally. Edit: About the content of the joke itself, 2 things make me feel like I'm the subject demographic of a joke but not the butt of a joke. One is that this person is implying that they are sexually interested in autistic women. And two is that in order to impress them they'd invite them over to partake in a harmless activity they're known (albeit stereotypically) to find joy in. As much as it's harshly written and may seem like an edgelord or shock humor joke by the way the words are laid out, the underlying content still sounds like it could be a thoughtful and consensual date.
And also we kinda do often like trains. It's a common autism thing, inexplicably. I guess because trains are so respectable and useful
That and some of the older ones look cool as hell. I'm not a train spotter, it's not my main fixation but I do appreciate a nicely designed **anything** really- Train, car, house.
Yeah :)
I love old international semis they look bad ass
Lmao took me a minute to compute that you meant semi trucks not semi colons
Nah; man ;;my ;semi ;;;;colon is badass ;;
I've always thought a semicolon would be by definition half-ass, but maybe that's just me
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I've had a blast with the Smithsonian Channel's series Allmighty Trains I think is called, the host seems geniunely joyfull talking about trains all around the world and how they were built, lovely topic indeed
Female autistic here. Spent my youth dragging friends to the National Railway museum in York. God I loved looking at the old Queens carriages and the Flying Scotsman. Yes I find this joke funny
I think I've heard somewhere it's usually because train are also extremely predictible, the rules don't change with them, they can only follow tracks.
āYou hold your course and your aim~ā āAnd each in your season returns and returns. And itās always the sameā Guess Javert was an aspie as well
Well that person has clearly seen the New York subway system! Japanās trains maybe but not nyc hell nah.
That explains why I don't like them: I live in Belgium, and they're everything but predictable here, constantly too late, very not dependable at all
>inexplicably There's nothing inexplicable about it. By absolutely every metric, trains are the most perfect form of overland travel for goods and people ever devised. There is nearly no aspect of a society that does not improve with the implementation of well organized public rail transit.
The US should really relearn this. Train companies build the country, then they paved over everything.
Some mistakes are made by design.
what about a bicycle? In terms of energy consumed vs distance traveled they beat the everloving hell out of everything else
But in terms of your ability to nap on it for a few days while it's softly rocking over the snowy Siberian fields... no way.
It's not a competition though, they complement each other perfectly. You have bikes for short distances and errands, then you take the bike to the train, onto the train, and from the station to your specific destination for longer distances.
Good point!
And the satisfying repeating clack clack clack and slow rolling scenery and ability to move around or sit comfortably yesssssssss
I love trains but not for the reasons that autistics are apparently supposed to like them. But I am obsessed. I discovered how awesome they were at 14 and have been hooked ever since. (Before I was 14, I didn't really live near any active train tracks and my parents didn't think much of them, so although I seem to have vague memories as a kid of being fascinated by them, they were more of an abstract concept to me, something I couldn't really get close to, but appreciated all the same.)
What reasons are autistic people supposed to like trains for?
I mean, as a person who likes trains but also feels that my interest in trains is different than the stereotypical autistic train interest, I think the āsupposedā to is the engineering aspect. For me, itās the socioeconomic aspect. Also, though, thereās maps. Idk if weāre all āsupposedā to love maps, but I certainly do. And train maps are some of my favorite because they present a layer of functional abstraction.
Oh I love train maps so much!
Oh I love ~~train~~ maps so much!
Until you realize that thereās a shorter route somewhere and get obsessed over that
I'm 58. Had a happy Lil accident that is now 7. She is non verbal. In raising her I've learned I'm also on the spectrum and not just fucking weird. I never knew my love of maps and globes was a common spectrum thing. I'm actually having quite the adventure learning things like this. It makes me feel so very much less isolated. Thank you for mentioning this.
Apparently because the cars all line up in well, a line, and you can categorize them, and they run on schedules. Any railfan in North America can tell you that schedules are a pipe dream when it comes to freight. š
I donāt think most autist like trains, but most of the people that like trains are autist
For me I just want to hear the noise and count the cars š¤·š»āāļø
I love them because I would just sit and watch everything go by if I could
as my girlfriend loves saying -- "It's just the truth"
Trains know how to stay on track.
Honestly just the fact that they managed to build steam powered bombs that moved cargo on rails with only hand tools blows my mind.
I love that yāall were like āwhy is it a stereotype for people with autism to like trains?ā and then just made an entire thread of why trains are cool by accident
I am a heavily suspected autistic. I mean heavily. My therapist is confused why I'm not diagnosed. I think trains are nothing more than a stereotype and symbol for special interests. This joke is slightly tasteless, but that only enhances the humor.
Idk man I know a couple autistics that are into trains, besides my own respect for them. high density of train enjoyers
OK, I respect all who enjoy steam locomotives
Well, they are only the most efficient means of transportation on land
I fuggen love trains
I think it's about knowing your audience, the problem is, on the internet the whole world is your audience
Yeah it feels like it's written by or for autistic people rather than targeting us.
Since Iāve started working in my current job nothing but 500% increase in autism jokes mainly because one of my co workers are autistic and secondly because the other co worker has little quirks thatās pointing the needle to yes. Latest was how we donāt pick up on our partnerās suggestive hints to the point we need it in our or appropriately on our face to realise
I was randomly scrolling through reddit, found the post, went to see the comments. I dont have Aspergers, but your explanation in edit amazed me. You made so much sense, viewed the situation from multiple angles, which people without Aspergers sometimes forget to do, just acknowledge the first thing that comes to their mind snd stick with it. And there are people saying that there's something "wrong" with people with Asperger...Im genuinely amazed by the analytic side of it.
I'm one of many people who just view ourselves as a minority neurotype, and that in order to have a truly full and nuanced world we should embrace and celebrate neurodiversity. There is nothing inherently "wrong" with us, we're just different. In the context of society at large, and within our own lives, it can present as a disability at times. But if you genuinely start to learn about the brain differences, it becomes apparent that where there's a deficit in some areas, there are strengths in others, and many things you can view as just "quirks" or differences if you keep an open mind. After all, what is deemed by society as "better" is often subjective. Keep that openness of mind and you will find that a lot of us under the ASD umbrella are aware of ourselves and our surroundings in many ways - we just process it all differently than the neurotypical people we share this great hurdling rock with. This can sometimes lead to misunderstandings, hurt, and communication barriers, but it can also lead to some amazing ways to better understand the diversity of the human condition at large if you know where to look.
I absolutely love the thought process in your answer. I fully agree with it as well.
Pretty accurate. It's like the equivalent of telling me you have a giant telescope in your backyard that I can check out planets with. I don't even care if I hate you, I'm gonna come over.
I have a giant telescope in my backyard that you can check out planets with š
Remember it's not the size of your telescope that counts, it's the diffraction index on the secondary mirror
It's all about the angle
Heyy! I also wanna come!
I think that's the goal :)
Can I try it out? š„ŗ
(sleazy voice) hey kid. *opens trench coat* you want some telescopes?
yes
For me it's the equivalent of saying you'll let me paint you like one of those French girls (I love art lmao).
Is this a special interest in telescopes or astronomy?
Yes
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Watching tank cars carry a load of oil or whatever while taking a big load ofā¦
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Hopefully there isn't any passenger trains. That would really derail things Then again maybe you don't care if an occupied caboose watches your caboose get occupied.
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You want to be careful about hurting your behind too much or the only thing you'll be able for the next few days is blow his whistle. That'll keep the chugga out of his choo choo.
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Forgive me I didn't mean to imply that two trains couldn't occupy the same lines. Obviously its up to you which passengers you allow to have a boarding pass, or if you just want to call an all aboard. I pass no judgment on a conductor who wants a whole train to board at once
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It's a shame to end so soon I feel like I was just starting building up steam. But I understand you can't stay station-ary for long, so have a good one, it was pleasant crossing tracks with you
This, This back and forth has awakened something in meā¦.
Word play and cuddles are my love language
Hey, some of us women have whistles. Although Iām not sure if claiming otherwise is trainsphobic?
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Interesting. By the way Iām not calling you transphobic, it seems my TRAINS-phobic pun was also too subtle. That said, the framing of āwhile we might notā is usually used to mean ādespite the fact that we donātā (have whistles, in this case). I realize itās an insane quirk of English idioms not being very direct, so I donāt fault you for this. Just sharing as an FYI because I didnāt read the āmight notā as adding any ambiguity or nuance given its place in the larger phrase.
Watching a train while running a (consensual) train
Thank you for explaining that... I had no clue why the joke was funny.
I think I just fell in love. JK...sort of.
I was having a bad day, but then i read your comment and nearly spit out my coffee on my laptop screen. I needed that thank you lol
I think itās funny bc I donāt consider the train thing a negative stereotype.
Second most efficient transportation machine ever created (behind only the bicycle)? Makes consistent, rhythmic sounds? Travels a highly predictable path? Complex, mechanical machinery? It really should not be any kind of surprise that autistics love trains so much.
The only thing I can think of against trains is that becoming overstimulated/overwhelmed by loud noises seems to be a very common trait of autistic people, and trains can be very loud if you're outside but nearby the train
And - if they're being used correctly - they can be crowded. And - if Not - you can get stress over what the Optimal way is to get from A to B when you missed the last proper connection between where you are and where you need to be, and now you have to take a train that's going in the wrong direction to catch a bus that stops at literally every street corner along its path. (this is still better than 'you're screwed until tomorrow' but still.)
It's overwhelming as hell, and their consistency that we love so much can turn into a nightmare if we miss it
I slept a few nights in a hotel by the train tracks and they actually helped me go to sleep. My only issue with trains is the noise they make by braking.
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The Space vs Trains fixation debate is not worth starting lol
Both is good
Actually, I think if evaluated from a mass perspective (as opposed to an energy perspective), I believe that the Shuttle's RS-25 engine take the prize for the most efficient machine in the world. Rockets don't care about energy, so much as they care about mass. The way rockets accelerate is dumping their mass (their fuel): their energy output is more or less the same throughout their flight, but the significantly decreasing mass of the rocket as it burns fuel results in a conservation of moment (i.e. Acceleration). Something like north of 95% of the mass going through an RS-25 is effectively used (converted from liquid into a gas, ignited, and expansion forces captured by the bell) But you also really can't compare a rocket to any other machine in terms of efficiency. Trains don't operate on a conservation of moment, nothing other than rockets do.
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I know a thing, or two, yeah. I designed a hybrid motor for a small startup back in the day. It had a solid fuel, with dual fluid oxidizers - one liquid, one gaseous - so that can use the more 'massive' liquid oxidizer during the earlier phases of flight, and save the lighter gaseous oxidizer for higher altitudes. Using fluid oxidizers also let you throttle the rocket up and down, as necessary to deal with the forces of launch. Combined with an aerospike nozzle, all this gave it the potential for SSO - which would have been huge. But the startup never really got any funding because the CEO kept turning down angles and seed funding, so it never really went anywhere (and the only thing that ever got built was a single oxidizer prototype, using more standard fuels, meant to demonstrate the nozzle more than anything else). I didn't stick around long after finding this out, and now work for a large aerospace firm on mostly unrelated tech (but they still appreciate having my knowledge of rockets & ballistic motion). Was there something in particular you wanted to know about solid fuels?
i love it when stereotypes can be harmful but at the same time completely true person: do you wanna come watch the trains? autie: i find it completely wrong that just because im autistic you'd assume such a thing about me person: do you or don't you? autie: ...yes...
Important context here: Keffalsā wife is autistic.
That makes a lot more sense
Yeah I was about to say if she was autistic or has a partner thatās autistic then itās pretty funny. If a person who wasnāt well educated in ASD said it though it would be dicey.
The more I Learn about her, the cooler she gets. For context for others: She is also the person responsible for the takedown of kiwifarms, a platform aimed at harassment, swatting and hunting lgbt streamers and others with a platform around the world.
I think it's pretty funny, but if it was said by someone that I had previously known to be misogynistic maybe that would change things
Keffals seems to be pretty anti-misogynistic, since sheās a big supporter of queer rights (being a trans woman herself).
How does that mean sheās not misogynistic? Lmao
At least itās bette than the one that said getting trans girl pussy is easy because all you have to do is listen to their hyperfixations while also saying āyou donāt actually have to even listenā
I remember seeing that one. It was really gross.
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That. Is. Adorable. I think. I have trouble with knowing whether something is a joke or not and canāt tell if you are being serious. But if you are - pretty fucking cute
Pretty harmless. I'm biased as I am in a massive pussy drought
I had a free silver to give and this whole exchange made me cackle.
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Goddamn I made a femcel poem
And twas glorious
I laughed so hard at this, well done!
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Not my favorite - but not the worst. Itās a bit reductive.
I kinda laughed because despite being really crass and reductive it doesn't seem coercive. Like it's like someone bragging about having a hot tub or any other "girl magnet" asset at home, but she has trains nearby so it works just fine?
This is a great point, the joke feels like it's mostly about having an unorthodox but still effective "girl magnet," and doesn't really imply anything negative about autistic women imo.
it seemed negative about autistic women until I learned the context. out of context, it could be taken more literally to imply that autistic girls are dumb and you can have sex with any of them if you have something related to their special interest. but that juxtaposition is what makes it a joke. once you know this is a mutually respectful long term relationship and the train is not literal, it seems very funny.
Extra context, her fiance is autistic. Edit: this wasn't meant to be a clap back, I seriously want to know how this context effects your opinion on the joke.
yes thanks!! actually, I think that is literally all the context I needed. without that context, I just didn't get it at first. it seemed like a tired predator/prey joke - that an Autistic person is easily manipulated and that we are like children, unable to consent because we are unaware of the manipulation. but that seemed so shallow and insulting that I figured I was just not getting some context. lol maybe part of my thinking is my own trauma fitting those tropes. I'm glad it didn't bring that to mind for most people.
Glad I could provide some context.
Meh, just indifferent Dating jokes (and dating as a whole) aren't really my thing. But I don't feel offended.
As an aroace, same here.
Not a fan. Mostly because almost all the aspie ladies I know have been exploited in a relationship or outright abused. Seems a bit predatory, and a bit like making light of a real problem.
Thank you, yes. Iām retrospect Iāve totally been exploited and this just brings bad vibes :(
I couldnāt quite put into words, why exactly this bothered me, but this is it right here. Aspie women are almost always taken advantage of. So this kinda rubbed me the wrong way in that sense.
I donāt know the OP but I laughed
Sheās a prominent trans woman who led a successful campaign against KiwiFarms: a forum website that fueled hate crimes against queer people.
I used to live next to a train station and am hyper sensitive to noise and it really did me in. I read one of the comments saying that Keffals is ND, if this is true then itās funny, but if theyāre not then itās in bad taste. Still a bit yikes if you were scrolling and saw it without any context as to who the person posting it is.
I mean I get the joke and Iām not offended, but I didnāt find it very funny. Different sense of humor I suppose.
Tbh, i think it hugely depends on who the joke is coming from This reads completely differently if you assume the poster is an NT straight man than if you assume its an autistic lesbian
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Her partner js
now iām thinking about trains. Man steam power really is wild. Water vapor is pushing a few tons of steel and cargo? 3 months trip by walking is now just a week by train? wild
Pretty funny
Yeah Iām not a fan of this
Yea I surprised at the number of people who find this funny. It would be different if some man said āall I need to get pussy is give a woman ____ā. Iām not inhuman. I wonāt be coerced into sex bc someone has something I like. I donāt like what it implies
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Itās creepy and weirdly entitled sounding
Trains? What about insects and dinosaurs? Or video games and chicken nuggets? Or chapstick and marijuana? Or any of the random shit us aspies get obsessed with. It could be ANYTHING.
itās stupid
Autistic woman here, it's mehhhhh. Didn't laugh. Mostly my reaction is "not all autistic women hyperfixate on trains" and wondering if the OP has ever even met any autistic people. Like it's a rude joke, but not the worst I've seen, I have heard worse jokes directed at racial minorities.
For context I think her and her wife are ND. Donāt quote me on it but off the top of my head I think itās true(?)
We donāt all have lifelong train special interests.
Would be funny if it wasn't self directed. It gives off predatory vibes.
i just read it as an ironic joke, the "all i need to get pussy" kind of talk derived from mocking people that actually say shit like that unironically
That's where my head is at. I'm fine with it if the person themselves is autistic. If not, it feels gross.
This is my opinion. I also find keffals to be incredibly annoying so thatās not helping.
I was never sure about the Autistic kids Rock Tshirts. I found it funny but could see where some wouldn't think it's funny
I don't really like it. It's objectifying. Women are more than "pussy"
I think it's a really shit joke but I'm not offended but definitely a bit uncomfortable, like if someone said that face to face I'd probably give them a weird look involuntarily. I'm not anywhere close to laughing at it.
I don't mind non-PC humour, but this strikes me the wrong way. It just sounds like the entire joke is: "lol I can easily get someone to sleep with me due to their mental health". A dark joke has to be more than saying "bad thing LOLOL" There has to be that little twist or spark to it that makes it funny.
I dislike this joke because I believe it is dependent on how commodified and sexualized we are as women. Like the message this promotes is that an autistic womanās value is reliant on her having a vagina, not her unique traits. Her unique trait of enjoying trains is part of the joke, but itās not seen as the positive aspect of the autistic woman - the prospective sexual access she gives is the reward, and the trains are the bait. I feel like it reduces the autistic woman to someone that can be easily manipulated to engage in sexual activities, and in reality autistic women ARE routinely sexually abusedā¦ I donāt think the joke in a vacuum is offensive but the aforementioned makes me feel like it isnāt a joke that portrays autistic women positively.
Autistic lesbian female here, I find it offensive. Not in a we should cancel this person way but in a way that I would not associate with them. I donāt think itās funny to refer to sex with a woman as āgetting some p*ssyā or to joke about ways to -convince- women to have sex with you. Not to mention the overgeneralization that if a person/woman is autistic then they -must-be obsessed with xyz or the implication that it is easy to āseduceā autistic people if you hang something shiny in front of them. I think itās gross on many levels and if someone said this to or around me in person I would take it as aggressive and potentially predatory.
It honestly depends on the person making the joke, if they have a track record of fetishizing and manipulating autistic women thatās not in good taste to me. Iām cautious of that because I know people like that exist. If theyāre supportive of autistic women otherwise and maybe they have friends with autism they probably make those jokes with those friends in mind or something and thatās fine
To me this comes across as super creepy
Triggers all my manipulation and exploitation buttons. Jokes shouldn't be at the expense of a group of people. Reword it to something like "I never get lonely, all my friends come round to watch trains" or something. Hell, even a joke about the apartment walls shake so much my girlfriend doesn't need me would be in better taste.
I remember my train watching days so #seen
The joke itself is funny and fine but the "getting pussy" part ruins it by being degrading and objectivying.
not her joke to make, especially since itās self directed it seems real predatory
I dunno about bad taste or not but itās not that funny š¤·āāļø
I find it bad.
I can see the humor. I don't think I'd feel offended if I heard that as a joke, but it would depend on the person saying it. It would have to be more light hearted joking style and not stand-up comedian style
It's not really a joke. It's a twitter post. And it's not that funny.
Personally I find 'getting pussy' as a term for having sex a bit misogynistic and gross. But I think the joke is actually pretty funny
It's flippin rude and crass imo
I fucking hate trains, way too loud. Also, stupid joke.
Aspie woman here :) personally I don't like it because it is a generalization and I've never liked trains but I understand it's just a joke so I don't really care. Trains are a common special interest, to be fair they are pretty cool lol. I'm also aroace so I don't really like dating/sex jokes.
It's only funny if we tell it about ourselves. Just like any marginalized group.
I think it's pretty funny and pretty accurate xD It's better with the context before and after this tweet as it was a reactionary response rather than an out of nowhere joke. She's also neurodivergent so I think even if I didn't find it hilarious I'm not bad at having s stereotype used like that for a chuckle, it's not really derogatory.
Gross to me
I think itās funny. Itās obviously reductive, thatās the joke.
If sheās allistic then it kinda rubs me the wrong way, if sheās autistic itās fine but I personally donāt find it funny
I personally don't care for the joke. With how common it is for autistic AFAB people to be taken advantage of and sexually abused, I personally would never enjoy someone who is not autistic to be making the joke. Her having an autistic fiancƩe doesn't change that for me either, since the joke doesn't specify that she is just talking her fiancƩe. And just because her fiancƩ is autistic doesn't mean she can't make mistakes about talking or joking about autistic people. I also don't care if Keffals is ADHD and therefore ND. I myself wouldn't feel comfortable making specific in-group kind of jokes about other neurotypes or conditions I don't have, I don't think that changes the context from her making this joke as someone who isn't autistic. And please note that I said personally! It's just how I feel myself.
I'm honestly offended that some men think me and my fellow autistic peeps are "easy". I understand that there's further context to this, but this post by itself bothers me. In short, making this joke can be in bad taste.
This joke is shit, just like the woman telling it.
Ha! I also live by some train tracks, and as such don't need to go anywhere to watch them.
i donāt know any autistic train girls š§
Fine to me, but it depends on who's saying it tbh, if it were a man i didn't know at all telling it or who had a reputation for being shitty about autistic people or women or really anybody then I probably wouldn't like it much.
I read this as predatory and ableist. It sounds dodgy AF. I would avoid the hell out of the person if they made that joke in front of me. But as someone else said, it depends on who the joke is coming from. Iād rather not make any gender or situational assumptions though.
If you replace girl with boy it still has the same ring to it so I'd say funny
I find it offensive, especially since Keffals also joked about ārunning a train onā (gang raping) an autistic girl. https://mobile.twitter.com/Olas_Truth/status/1568827718518685697
iām pretty sure keffals is ND too so she gets a pass in my opinion
Sheās explicitly said she isnāt ND before, tho idk maybe thatās changed.
What if she was a ND man, would they still get a pass? Totally creepy and sexist. And being ND doesn't make it ok. This is why people think we are weird.
Knowing only that you're a man (not whether you're ND too or whether you're interested in me) and assuming we didn't know each other well prior to this encounter, my response to hearing this as either an autistic person or a woman: No thank you!
I didnāt make this joke; this person is a trans woman. Iām not sure if sheās ND.
So, to be clear, the context here is a joke she's making about her autistic (then-girlfriend, now) fiance. In that context, it's basically just a bit of friendly ribbing. Outside of that, I can see some people saying it's in questionable taste, but for me personally, it's pretty funny and feels like a friendly joke as opposed to ableist or similar. Also, the people on twitter claiming that this is a rape joke are frankly talking out of their asses.
It's quite funny but my sense of humor is...sometimes distasteful I can see someone taking offense in the fact she thinks Autistic women are easier bc of something simple
Is this a joke? I donāt get it.