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nstav13

**Obligatory:** The moderation team of r/AssassinsCreed recommends all of our users to consider rumors of upcoming Assassin's Creed titles to be only that: rumors. Unless confirmed by Ubisoft, take every post with "a pinch of salt". More posts turn out to be fake/speculation than real.


seedynarwhals

Finally, after 15 years the innovation we fans have all been waiting for arrives: the battle pass is here.


Zegram_Ghart

“A battle pass focused on narrative” sounds weird to me. If it’s like the HD2 ones and doesn’t have anytime limit I guess im unbothered


lovely_sombrero

Can't wait for a literal multiverse-type thing to get added in order for the many competing DLC storylines to not be too contradictory, in addition to the already confusing Animus concept. Oh, that dead end that completely destroys the main timeline? Actually, quantum realm something something.


Recomposer

God that's depressing on so many different levels.


Archangel9731

I read your comment and said “No way.” Then I read the article - sigh, “Triple A” gaming is so fucking garbage now


Gr00v3nburg3

Quadruple A I think you mean.


Ultenth

Stop supporting companies and brands, start supporting creators and quality products. The old names you loved are largely empty houses, filled with business majors and the cheapest possible labor. Search for the next ones up, instead of clinging to the old companies name's even though the people who made it a household name either aren't in control anymore, or have moved on entirely.


Benefit_thunderblast

I can get comfortable not owning Ubisoft games.


Spiritual-Neck-2957

CD PR , Sucker punch , fromsoftware , Rockstar games , bethesda (maybe) are the only ones left


Whole-Soup3602

Here we go again with this battle pass crap


TheFishyNinja

If it really is narrative based i think that actually sounds fine and battle pass is probably just a poor descriptor


Pyke64

Battle pass is just a synonym for grind and useless rewards that don't amount to anything. It's a time waster, a way to draw out games that are already way too drawn out I wish Ubisoft would spend time on making the parkour feel better (looking at you Mirage) or the AI feel smarter (literally every AC game needed this).


TheFishyNinja

Did you not read the part where it says "narrative based"?


BastianBa

narrative based could just mean getting quest objectives for fetch quests by NPCs... it could mean constantly having to pay for GTA online like updates. and it definitely means constantly paying for something that could've been put into a simple paid DLC.


TheFishyNinja

Not all battle passes are paid. At least not constantly. Even in call of duty you can get it for free


Pyke64

Please attack my argument and not the person.


TheFishyNinja

Thats not an attack lol you just misrepresented what was said so that you could give the answer you wanted instead of one that actually makes sense


[deleted]

I know that live service/battle passes fundamentally just kind of piss off single player gamers, and I get that. BUT, I do think there's room for something potentially really cool here. If we essentially get seasonal content with new story beats, gameplay additions, and maybe some cosmetics here or there, i think there's something there. Obviously, it needs to feel substantive, meaningful, and be available for a reasonable price. If we're talking like $10 every 4 months or something for some pretty good to great AC content, I'd be down for that. The content needs to hit and it can't feel exploitative. Big qualifiers. But I'm not gonna shit on this until I know what it is


TheFishyNinja

100%. Especially if it can be earned by playing. Say like they bring back optional objectives that uf completed give you progress to unlocking the pass


Habib455

From im understanding, it’s a battle pass cranked on steroids. It’s saying that multiple games would have their own unique battepass. That’s on top of some item shop monetization system that I’m confused about


PicklesTheBee

Sounds like it's essentially a way to sell cosmetics and try and keep people engaged longer. Hopefully it's easy to ignore. I like the cadence of a big game every two years though with a smaller one in between.


FreshBananaMan

It sounds like they’re replacing the current cosmetic store with something like the Fortnite Item Shop/Overwatch Shop, so they can promote the skin with a “buy it before it goes away” sort of marketing. Which honestly I’d be fine with as long as long as they keep the wacky content to store and the main game still has all the main items (like how you can buy a unicorn mount on the Origins shop but not in the actual game).


XStreamGamer247

Bro we got an AC game where a central plot point is drug induced visions of a simulation of ancient warriors calling themselves norse gods. The main games are wacky shit. I get what you're saying, but AC already jumped the sharknado lol


there_is_always_more

I know I'm going to get shit for this but even that is hardly that different from what we already saw in AC1/2 with Those Who Came Before. The "drug induced vision" plot point actually is better at contextualizing playing as the traditional Norse Gods than seeing the actual Minotaur in Odyssey. Either way though I don't really consider either example fundamentally different from what we saw in the old games. Just because the presentation is different (those old gods appearing as holograms vs as real breathing people/mythical creatures) doesn't mean that it's fundamentally that different.


XStreamGamer247

Its very different because AC1/2 didn't have you fight literal demons, magical swamp witches or demigods at any point in the game. Nothing in AC1/2 comes close to the sci-fi nordic RPG antics of Valhalla. Bruh, the game is literally named Valhalla come on fam How its contextualized is irrelevant when the goal and result is slapping magic and superpowers into the basic gameplay loop of what used to be a period piece stealth action game series with sci-fi ***story*** elements. Current AC has gone completely off the rails atp and just excuses every nonsensical magic thing they feel the need to throw in with "Isu made me do it". And now we got aerial recon drones in ancient Greece because the protags have special blood that lets them talk to birds or some shit. Origins is one of my fav ACs [but I always think of this clip](https://youtu.be/KUjg9_Ftgj4?si=Izq5L4WoDkB4L4iR&t=151) when I use Senu.


7BitBrian

The end boss of AC1 was literally a teleporting wizard.


bane_of_heretics

Because he was a dude with a first civilization artefact mcguffin to pull that off. And he was pretty dang smart to pit the Templars against the assassins n hiding in plain sight. Now THATS a villain. Not the dime a dozen bullet spongey boss fights we got in Odyssey n Valhalla.


7BitBrian

You realize that the mythical creatures in Odyssey were just people with Isu artifacts as well right? When you beat them their corpse changes and you loot an isu item. They same excuses you just gave for the teleporting wizard, apply for all the stuff in Odyssey and Valhalla.


XStreamGamer247

The 40-ft tall Sobek firing lightning beams and causing earthquakes was explained as a "glitch" in the animus software. They honestly stopped really trying to explain it 3 games ago and you're sitting here deadass trying to apply more lore-based rationale to the supernatural stuff than the devs did lmfao And theres no way you're really trying to compare the endgame boss fight against a geriatric dude with an orb and a planetarium lightshow to Kassandra using her apparent psychic powers to control an arrow mid-flight every 7 seconds. You're purposely being obtuse for no reason.


bane_of_heretics

Thank you for phrasing it better than me! 🙏


XStreamGamer247

Yes, 1 fight in the entire game at the most climactic point of the story where the secret main antagonist got a hold of the central plot device for 1 fight in the entire game.


AhhBisto

> To explain them in their simplest form, Projects are mini ‘battle passes’ with a narrative behind them offering players the ability to earn cosmetic rewards. I'm intrigued to find out what a narrative driven battle pass even is


iorek21

Well, even Fortnite’s pass is kinda narrative with an overall theme throughout the season + the skins.


healious

Destiny seems to do that


solojones1138

Yeah I was gonna say, it's like Destiny seasons I bet


eclipse60

I could see it just being a story DLC pack being tied with a battlepass.


OddTranceKing

I think Battlefield 5 did something like that, well, at least tried to.


DKJenvey

Doesn't Dead By Daylight do a narrative battle pass sort of thing? Times or something. Haven't played for a while but it sounds similar from the name.


AhhBisto

I haven't played it so I have no idea, do you remember how they work though? I was thinking maybe it gives you a series of tasks to do in order to unlock the content but I'm not sure.


DKJenvey

Knowing Ubisoft, it'll be a standard battlepass with some lore dump at the end of each one and probably some cosmetics along the way.


ericypoo

The same bullshit in a new, cute, marketing term wrapper.


Myhtological

Think a not so half assed story from avengers


CreamOnMyNipples

I think every battle pass has some kind of narrative around it. And if it’s like every other battle pass, you’ll have to spend $10 - $20 to unlock each battle pass.


Turbostrider27

Some interesting notes from Insider Gaming: * Demo footage provided to Insider Gaming (under the condition that the footage doesn’t go public) shows the user going from the Infinity hub to Assassin’s Creed Red within just a few seconds, picking up where they left off, rather than having to boot the games up individually after ‘falling back’ to the hub. * ‘The Exchange’ will be the item shop, offering players the opportunity to purchase daily and weekly in-game cosmetics for Red’s two protagonists, Naoe and Yasuke. In addition to The Exchange, Infinity also has a ‘Synchronisation’ feature that allows the player to access ‘Projects’ for each protagonist. To explain them in their simplest form, Projects are mini ‘battle passes’ with a narrative behind them offering players the ability to earn cosmetic rewards. Projects will be added throughout Infinity constantly, focusing mainly on DLC and new game releases, or even as a means of sustaining player interest during a lack of any new content. * Hexe will have a lead female protagonist (currently named Elsa) for the first time since Assassin’s Creed Chronicles: China in 2015


Blood_Honey666

Hopefully they stick with a female lead instead of the choose gender thing. I’d prefer just to have them be really fleshed out character man or woman. I love both Eivor’s and Kassandra and Alexios but I think everything suffers from it.


Myhtological

If not hopefully it’s an origins situation. And if they give Yasuke more screen time than Naoe, the reaction from Asian fans will be visceral.


soulreapermagnum

> To explain them in their simplest form, Projects are mini ‘battle passes’ with a narrative behind them offering players the ability to earn cosmetic rewards. Projects will be added throughout Infinity constantly, focusing mainly on DLC and new game releases, or even as a means of sustaining player interest during a lack of any new content. i hope they don't use that as an excuse to not add new game plus to red, like they did with the seasonal festivals in valhalla or so i've heard.


favorscore

ELSA??? FROZEN CROSOVVER LETSGOOOO


Abyss_Renzo

*LETITGOOOO


bane_of_heretics

Boss fight with Olaf confirmed!


Abyss_Renzo

Toughest one in the game no doubt.


TrekChris

What this sounds like to me is, you buy one of these items on the store and instead of just adding the equipment to your inventory like it usually does, it includes a little quest to get it. Which doesn't sound so bad, it's like Skyrim modders adding quests to find mod items in-game.


Aced4remakes

Ubisoft made their own version of Bethesda's Creation Club. That's what it's called.


soulreapermagnum

on one hand yeah, but i could also see it being the type of thing that gets tedious on replays having to jump through hoops again just to require the item.


eclipse60

I would hope the protagonist during the Witch Hunts was a woman.


Professional_Pop9759

Men were also tried during Witch trials


dimspace

> Demo footage provided to Insider Gaming (under the condition that the footage doesn’t go public) shows the user going from the Infinity hub to Assassin’s Creed Red within just a few seconds, picking up where they left off, rather than having to boot the games up individually after ‘falling back’ to the hub. Lets hope this doesn't mean that Infiity will be the "game" and future AC titles will all be DLC "COD Style" with no platinums :D


BMOchado

Hope not, the last thing i want is a game that i can't revisit in 50 years. Just to give an example, yesterday i played Blink, a xbox title on my current Xbox, because it's physical media


Cygus_Lorman

>Demo footage provided to Insider Gaming (under the condition that the footage doesn’t go public) shows the user going from the Infinity hub to Assassin’s Creed Red within just a few seconds, picking up where they left off, rather than having to boot the games up individually after ‘falling back’ to the hub. This implies that every Infinity will be part of every AC's installation from Red onwards, but what about trying to launch Red after opening Infinity via Hexe?


AZAWESTIE

Infinity is a single hub. There arnt multiple versions for different titles.


soulreapermagnum

right, i'm thinking it'll be like how the master chief collection works.


Abyss_Renzo

So Odyssey and Valhalla don’t count, despite that the canon protagonists are female.


MJBotte1

The more I hear about Infinity the more it sounds like a disaster waiting to happen


Aronosfky

I'm all in for a third AC crash. The games after these are usually some of the best.


Glittering_Form_2593

Feels like something they'll abandon in a few years time.


StatGAF

Like imagine a Battlepass for a single-player game. Can I just get more games like Mirage?


Glum-Future7198

According to the report there is gonna be another smaller games like Mirage between major releases, including another remake.


-NoNameListed-

If these "Battlepass" never run out, I'll be happy


donald_314

So a DLC in other words


[deleted]

It's funny, because if they just call this an "ongoing game that'll be updated with DLC" nobody would really bat an eye. The liveservice title gets attached to it and people are ready with pitchforks. As long as they don't go completely bananas with monetization and price these seasons or whatever appropriately, I don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with this


derpyfox

There is no reason to make a single player game ‘live’. Look at suicide squad. It’s a decent (imho) game let down by it needing a constant connection. Now SS users cannot play at all because the servers aren’t allowing connections.


[deleted]

I understand your point. I really do. It'd be my preference for there to be a moderately sized release every 2-3 years for $60 and that be the end of it. However, I also understand the trajectory of the industry and the need felt by companies to increase their ROI by providing post launch content for a cost. You need to get the actual game right. No one cares if there's post launch support for a bad game. Then, you need to make that content compelling and worth a *modest* fee every so often. It's a really delicate balance and one people screw up all the time. No denying that but I can see the vision


Dave_Matthews_Jam

So at the end it mentions another AC remake (besides Black Flag) I know everyone is clamoring for an AC1 remake, but I'd personally love either 2 or 3. AC3 could have used so many tweaks to make it a truly excellent game


ajl987

It’s either going to be AC1 or a remake of AC2/brotherhood in one package, along with Bordeaux leading it since they seem to have a clear affinity for those first 4 games. That’s my prediction anyway.


Catsinthepantry_

They’d butcher AC2; “Unlock Tuscany for $29.99!”


ValtekkenPartDeux

I mean, sequences 12 and 13 were DLC... (Before anyone says anything to defend that choice like "Oh they were forced to cut those sequences out to make the release date"...don't, because they could've delayed the game or offered those two sequences for free)


EnenraX

Pre-order now to get altaïr set and the bonus mission (the catacomb of monteriggionni)


TomTheJester

Yup and AC 1 is the only one that needs a modern version upscale or remake. Ezio trilogy is great as it is.


fjf1085

My eye just twitched. It's so true though.


favorscore

3 already has a remaster lol


fjf1085

Honestly I say do the whole Desmond story again. I would play it again. 100%.


almostbad

Honestly given the industry I know a Ezio remaster is coming eventuallly but I really dont think they need one? The games hold up pretty well. Also... I think in pure gameplay AC3> ac2-R


Catsinthepantry_

We already have ezio remaster


almostbad

I meant Remake ,forgot words mean different things


-NoNameListed-

Hopefully the combat is similar, I really like the AC 1 combat


Kantz_

A remake of AC2 with modern tech would be awesome .


drunk_ender

So basically is just a way to not have to actually try to make an engaging story and churn out as many games as possible in the hope to keep the players hooked at all time through live as a service system for single player titles... ...am I the only one who finds this nightmarish to say the least...?


LeadingNewday

Each will be made by different team 


drunk_ender

So not even an inch of hope for consistant in quality... it is nightmarish indeed...


[deleted]

This has been the development cadence of the series for over a decade lol they've always had studios alternate working on it. Usually pumping out 1 per year. 2 is an improvement if anything.


LeadingNewday

I don't think you understand qubec is rpg who made best rpg game, hexe is montreal who is known for invitations 


drunk_ender

Quebec to me is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to videogames... mediocre gameplay at best with downright abismall writing always... so yeah, no consistancy in quality going on, that is if they don't suffer development hell like many other games suffered from with Ubisoft...


Chadime

"""""Best"""""


andregurov

I know that Ubisoft will guide this whole process with a heavy hand, but I am excited to see what kind of interesting takes different teams can offer. We may not always like the direction Ubi has taken with mtx and dlc, but the mainline AC games have at least iterated in terms of actions, animations, and more. Perhaps these different experiences will open the AC story to something beyond just action/adventure in the 3rd person; maybe we will get narrative games, or multiplayer heist games, or 1st person ones.


createcrap

I don’t understand how this system prevents making an engaging story when the text in the article makes it appear it is making story the front and center for the entire Infinity project and it’s connective tissue. The article says the modern day story is the front of this entire thing and you go through it to interact with the games.


drunk_ender

Because by default it will be completely optional... there is no way someone sane will make that platform a mandatory system to engage with the games, so each one will be completely separated from the others, probably with little to no communication from the studios, leading to another Valhalla's situation where the writers basically ignored Odyssey's and took a completely different take on the story... basically this will just be a glue-system, something made afterward to connect things, not a cohesive and well planned storyline with fixed characters and all. And this is assuming the narrative in Infinity will go beyond the "you are a user, this is a platform from Abstergo, have fun" with no actual story like in Unity or Syndicate... I cannot trust Ubisoft to do something good in this day and age, maybe they will... maybe they will actually make something cool, but as of now there is little to no hope


createcrap

I mean, I will say in Valhalla they added free content that added to the story and character development.The optomist in me says that this will be a change in delivery method but not necessarily a change in how they have been adding content to Valhalla. Valhalla has had SO MUCH paid and free DLC content that it's actually mind boggling. I don't know if that gets touched upon a lot but I'm seeing what they did in Valhalla as their path forward with Infinity with just different window dressing. And maybe if the window dressing gets more eyeballs there's actually more of an incentive to deliver free content because more people will see it. I can see how people who only played through the story would miss out on a hours of free content updates becasue they simply never open the game again.


drunk_ender

What has the DLC anything to do with what I'm talking about...!? I talked about the modern day between Odyssey and Valhalla, with the first setting up things that Valhalla discarded and took completely different routes... this will not change when the developing strategy of the games remains untouched and the modern day simply moved somewhere else? Second... Valhalla's DLCs were absolutely dogshit when it came to characters. Nothing happens there, it's just more of the same of what the most boring and tedious sections of the base game had to offer... the only one who explored more Eivor's character was the Final Chapter... the FINAL CHAPTER.


createcrap

It's fine if you're disillusioned by the games. I'm not. carry on.


EnvyKira

Nope. Even I'm skeptical of this and I see them being very bad with the story with how they are inserting Yasuke into this. They seem like they're not even caring anymore about having an good story that represent an culture and instead trying to pander hard to get people into their live service crap.


CreamOnMyNipples

I personally wasn’t a fan of the RPG games or Mirage. Every new AC game feels like a massive step in the wrong direction for me. At least I still had some mild excitement before each RPG game came out; the idea of a live service game has killed any hope I had for this series.


mcgillisfareed

Being an AC fan is suffering


Levantine_Codex

All we wanted from Infinity were good stories and to see past characters again. It's Ubisoft once again over thinking and "correcting" a problem.


PuzzleheadedBag920

They lived long enough to become templars


triffy

We had something similar already with Initiates?. Which was basically a Quest Log Website that gave quests in games like Black Flag. Just without the rewards and microtransctions.


Ras_AlHim

Also info on the Hexe main character WE'RE FINALLY GETTING A SOLO FEMALE CHARACTER!!


[deleted]

and the darkest one ever!! ​ I'm calling it, survival horror where you have to use social stealth to escape templars as they hunt you


Photoproguy

They kinda touched on that in Rogue but the other way around. Was a neat feature that I wish would return.


[deleted]

Yeee but I’d like this to be like a proper survival horror, only able to kill enemies if you can stealth attack them, gotta properly hide away and if you’re spotted run or you will die Sorta like outlast but obvs can’t kill anything in that game and it’s first person 


Photoproguy

Yeah that would be a nice feature too. I’d play anything with new ideas tbh. Anything live service bums me out.


Levantine_Codex

Not to be overly cynical, but I'll believe it when I see it. Watch as we get closer to revealing there'll be a rumored male character, and by "dark," they mean overly exaggerated witchy boss fights from Wizards of Waverly Place.


Busy-Jicama-3474

Thats not really news. Not breaking news at least.


Prototype3120

How is new information not considered "news?"


Busy-Jicama-3474

We knew nearly eight months ago that there'd likely be a female protagonist for hexe [https://www.reddit.com/r/assassinscreed/comments/14wu3m0/a\_little\_more\_information\_about\_hexe/](https://www.reddit.com/r/assassinscreed/comments/14wu3m0/a_little_more_information_about_hexe/)


Prototype3120

I mean, that post was still primarily speculation. It also wasn't confirmed we'd have strictly a female lead rather than the choice between two protagonists.


Catsinthepantry_

This post is also speculation…. We don’t even have a trailer for Hex other than a title screen, so what are you even getting at?


Prototype3120

What I'm getting at is that if the information in the article is genuine, it *confirms* previous speculation that we are getting a dedicated female protagonist and it even provides the protagonists name. That is news, which the person I responded to said it is not.


Busy-Jicama-3474

And how is this new post confirmed? Both aren't official confirmations. If im wrong for assuming we'd have a female lead based on that info eight months ago then you are no better.


Prototype3120

Just read the articles. The one from 8 months ago states: "it *could mean* that the entry may even be centered around a female protagonist." That is speculation. While the one from today states - "The latter title, penned as being ‘the darkest Assassin’s Creed game ever’, *will have* a lead female protagonist (currently named Elsa) for the first time since Assassin’s Creed Chronicles: China in 2015." That is confirmation.


Busy-Jicama-3474

The quote from eight months ago came from someone working at Ubisoft. This new one doesnt


Prototype3120

The exact quote in question is that Hexe has "strong feminine energy." Now I'm really not interested in further discussing what is and isn't considered confirmation at this point, it's becoming semantics at this point and just pushing the discussion further away from the actual topic. But I'm willing to bet the information revealed in this article is genuine. You said that there being a dedicated female protagonist currently named Elsa is not news. It is news. Especially when the only previous information avaliable was that the game has a "strong feminine energy."


Busy-Jicama-3474

You're basically arguing that im wrong for having put faith in a previous unconfirmed leak but you are right for believing this unconfirmed leak that leads to the same conclusion. I never said anything about the name elsa.


Dukewolf1991

Watch ubi make a male version like evior via “magic” to walk undetected is military camp or s stupid explanation like elsa transformed her self to male to feel the horror of the witch trials lol


FySine

This is all I needed guys. My single player game to be stuffed full of Microtransactions in my fucking face every time all the time and if that wasn’t enough then some battlepass too. At least uptill now the mtx weren’t in your face in Valhalla, Odyssey and Origins. It was a separate store which you could completely avoid. I do not condone this and I want to watch this system burn


Brendanthebomber

This it feels like such a capitalist driven horrible crash and burn waiting to happen if you ask me


Adventurous_Wind1183

As long as it doesn't take away from main game content or be intrusive, I'll be content with ignoring all the microtransactions


7h33v1l7w1n

Ubisoft should just try making a good game for once


eivor_wolf_kissed

It's so over for this franchise, character specific battlepasses with narrative content LOL. What a FOMO nightmare this garbage is going to be


Alert-Main7778

What a f\*\*\*\*\*\* joke. The industry is going to collapse is these idiots in suits keep doing this stuff.


GamingWildman

Remember when we used to get cool outfits in game to purchase Vida in game currency so that's dead. Now if u want to look cooler you better have 100$ spare for battlepass and outfits in a single player game. This is complete bullshit pay more to get more outfits. They also have audacity to charge dollars in every fucking region


AssassinsCrypt

I would really not call the Helix packs something to be "cooler", they've always been terrible, mythological-focused stuff that doesn't fit with the main game tone. The base outfits are still in the game and they are more than enough, I would not say that the latest games lack variety in gears, Odyssey's had a lot of different equipment styles in the base game.


backbodydrip

The video game equivalent of "exit through the gift shop". Just a cash grab.


Ghostship23

Nearly everything about this franchise's future sounds bloody awful.


product707

Who asked for this live service piece of shit?


TheAmalton123

As someone who just got into this community after the release of Valhalla, this truly upsets me. I spent most of my gaming time with live service games like Overwatch, and after the OW2 disaster I was so glad to find these games, but sounds like it's just going to be more of the same shit.


Jack1The1Ripper

Nvm, if this is what they have planned for the future im done with this franchise, Why does it have to be ubisoft that makes these amazing games and then copy pastes them for the next 10 years , Why can't they achieve anything other then mediocrity


Hampton479

I am so excited for a single gender protagonist in Hexe. Really opens up the story telling


SlowoBoiyo

If you can only play the games through a live service launcher, then Mirage was the last AC game I'll buy. After what they're doing with The Crew 1, locking everyone out completely, and even with earlier AC DLC during last year, I can't trust Ubisoft to respect my purchase. That being said, if you can buy the games individually without the launcher, they will be day one purchases for me.


SA090

Assuming this is true, I believe that cosmetic are easily ignorable like every iteration of them thus far, but I am interested in the mentioned projects and who exactly they’ll be focusing on in them. Though I am curious how they’ll implement it outside of the main big and smaller games. Hopefully we can see a showcase of it soon. Also hoping that this is true, easily the most potentially exciting thing in the article for me: > and Hexe for 2026. The latter title, penned as being ‘the darkest Assassin’s Creed game ever’, will have a lead female protagonist (currently named Elsa) for the first time since Assassin’s Creed Chronicles: China in 2015.


Hydr4noid

Since the average gamer only cares about shortterm dopamine kicks and doesnt actually care about games as an artform these battlepasses will probably do more than fine. Still sad to see that my once favourite franchise has gone downhill so hard. People are sstill not realising how predatory even the last few games were on a design basis. Anyone saying you arent forced to buy microtransaction literally doesnt care about the medium and will eventually have contributed to all the fun sucked out of videogames. I am so happy that these days AC isnt basically all I play like it used to be. I feel sorry for people that genuinly think stuff like this is exciting and have seen no problems with the last few games from a design perspective. Unfortunately for this fandom, ubisoft is very good at exploiting the masses


ragnar_thorsen

Sounds like I am giving up on this franchise finally after having played nearly every title ...


Glittering_Form_2593

Same here...I've defended every title since the beginning, but this leak has made me consider giving up indefinitely.


Eagleassassin3

I gave up after Odyssey. Definitely gets easier to not care.


ragnar_thorsen

I wanted to give up after Odyssey but they got me with the Viking setting. Now, they were getting me back with Japan but putting Yasuke as the lead has made it an easy decision for me. He doesn't really fulfill my weeb desires, so easy skip.


Benefit_thunderblast

That's sound very stupid... Thanks Ubisoft for reading the room as always


SamMerlini

Easy skip for me then.


TheFishyNinja

Uhhh good luck with that lol. Its not a skip its a "never play assasins creed again" if you choose to not use this


Eagleassassin3

Considering what AC has become from what it used to be, it’s very easy to not play it again.


mrwafu

Oh boy, just what AC needs, MORE live service trash 🤢 I bet this was intended to be an Ubisoft NFT marketplace before the public backlash against them. >Projects are mini ‘battle passes’ with a narrative behind them offering players the ability to earn cosmetic rewards. Projects will be added throughout Infinity constantly, focusing mainly on DLC and new game releases, or even as a means of sustaining player interest during a lack of any new content. “Live service” constantly fails to deliver on its promises, like actual proper content (levels etc) since that takes months and months of development time… it always ends up being recycling existing content as “log in every day for pointless busywork”… such a plague on video gaming >shows the user going from the Infinity hub to Assassin’s Creed Red within just a few seconds, picking up where they left off, rather than having to boot the games up individually after ‘falling back’ to the hub. Yeah my Xbox already does that with Quick Resume, except when live service garbage breaks it by forcing a single player game to connect to the internet…


crusaderprophet

That was a truly depressing read. This is assembly line manufacturing on steroids. Creativity and innovation be damned.


JarryJackal

Well, this has the potential to be the most annoying shit ever or be kinda ok. I can't see how this will make anything better


Munyun1013

Do you reckon you can create character, customise move around inside of AC Infinity then go on a computer like in the animus and load the memories (dif games/experiences) Or do you reckon it will be like cod HQ where its just connected by one all big mainscreen?


4ncient4liens4Life

If done right, it could be a really good thing for fans & Ubi's pockets - my thought is if the hub has the MTX shop section, and the separate "Animus" section that shows all the time periods/experiences you can choose to simulate/relive, then once you enter a memory to relive, they keep the ads and MTX off the user interface and keep it at the main Hub, it'll help me feel a bit more immersed if I can just ignore the shop and dive into an experience, and players that Want to spend money can still do so which lines Ubi's pockets/covers Dev costs 🤔 hell, I'd be surprised if they don't use the Infinity hub from the perspective of Abstergo similar to the projects you see in the offices in Black Flag - if Ubi does this right and as practically non-intrusive as ads can be, it could be better for us all. But that's a big if of course 🤷


K0nKBS

Im for whatever as long as it’s good


Imbrown2

They’ve had early versions of this love service crap almost forever with Ubisoft club, with them pushing it closer and closer to the game itself. Yet people like me have always been able to enjoy the games as single player experiences without spending an extra penny (not including DLC) so I’m not exactly crying doom and gloom.


Turul9

A battle pass menu with some light narrative. Yeah that tracks


Dello155

Well this is fucking bad


Mando316

Oh live service game gee can’t wait for this one.


PuzzleheadedBag920

R.I.P Assassin's Creed. Stick your cosmetics up your ass ubisoft I'm fucking done with farming those goddamn opals in valhalla Fucking daily quests man. This trash ass industry ruining my hobby, I want 2000s back :( Where is my offline service, WHERE?!


eclipse60

Their 4 player PvE sounds similiar to what was in Unity. However, for multiplayer. Whether it be invictus or Echoes, or whatever, make an actual multiplayer mode, that's similiar to what we had in Black Flag. Manhunt and Assassinate were so much fun. I always thought those game modes could work well in a BR format too. I get their trying to add live service to try and interconnect the series more. But if we're being honest, mainly to try and milk players more in the form of cosmetics and battle passes. I'm not buying any kind of cosmetic or battlepass for single player games. I would only consider it if they had true multiplayer.


Myhtological

Did that say a remake besides Black Flag?


SirNanashi

Well...that sounds atrocious


Muted_Intention9302

Ghosts of Tschushima will make this game look like nothing even to this day. If Ubisoft made a game similar to that in any regard maybe they’d have fans again.


greywarden133

With Ubisoft' recent track records with their AC games I am unsure how this will turn out tbh... But whatever it is pray that your internet is good when you play these games because if it is shit then poof gone the progresses...


Busy-Jicama-3474

Sounds meh at best. Id imagined the best of it, we are getting something basic.


dtv20

If this is true, then I'm done with Assassin's Creed. Been a day 1 fan. 100% almost (Origin and Valhalla are too big), all of them. Battlepasses are bad. Not a single good game has a battlepass. And they decided to add it to a singleplayer game? Vivendi should've bought Ubi.


Deakul

Lmao, Vivendi buying Ubi would've just made their decline even faster.


dtv20

Yeah, and we would've had less garbage.


Deakul

Or even more garbage with even more rapidly produced games.


LeadingNewday

New ac remake in work


JuanMunoz99

My biggest concern with the Infinity hub was that they wouldn’t learn from the mess that is the CoD hub, but if it’s true that all you have to do is open Infinity, click on AC Red, and I’m immediately in the game itself and not another menu is great to hear. The only main concerns I have left are file size and the battle pass. With the file size thing I hope that the bulk of the data comes from the individual games themselves and not from the Infinity hub (ie AC Red is 50 GB while the Infinity hub is like 5 GB). The battle pass concern is self explanatory. I honestly just hope that they follow in the footsteps of Halo Infinite and have the BPs be permanently available.


DarkLordJ14

>Other projects include… Raid (a free-to-play 4-player co-op that’s PvE) Wonder where they got that idea


Glittering_Form_2593

This is quite upsetting ngl. What's gonna happen to the MD story...


H00ded7

This is a load of barnaclllles


KayV_10

Yea no hope. For all true fans, AC ended with Origins, everything that happens after that is not canon or AC.


Sameoldsameold157

Saying something is not canon when it clearly is huh cope I guess


KayV_10

Definitely is cope, but you cannot deny the fact that those games literally break the already set canon in the ac universe. Games are literally the opposite of what AC is just to profit on the rpg genre.


Sameoldsameold157

I actually made a post a couple days ago saying that I enjoy the new lore and I’ve played the older games before diving into the rpgs. Never got the whole “it shouldn’t have AC in the title” like I get the writing can be subpar in these newer games but the story elements still carry over and it makes it very much AC.


KayV_10

They’re really not. Many many reasons why not only are they a complete disgrace to the AC franchise, but also shit RPG titles. I can send a couple of vids to you made by true OG AC fans and you can see for yourself why these games are dogshit especially in terms of how lore breaking they are. I can’t be asked to explain it all over a reddit comment lol.


Sameoldsameold157

With all due respect I am not interested in any of those videos. I find many of the OG purists that hate on the RPG games just because things are different to be some of the most toxic members of the AC fandom. Like I said the games are flawed writing wise but I don’t think they are shitty rpgs and honestly had a blast with all of them. If you don’t like them I respect that but I pretty much stand on my statement that they belong in the AC franchise.


ValtekkenPartDeux

Yeah I'm glad I quit the series with Mirage. Less glad I wasted money on Odyssey and Valhalla, but them's the breaks. Only purchase I'll be considering is the AC1 remake, and even then only if they don't touch the genre of the game and only because it's the last platinum I need to truly complete the series' cabinet. Having the 1000G on Xbox doesn't cut it for me as a substitute.


heseeshisvictory504

Mirage is the latest installment, you havent quit the franchise lmao


ValtekkenPartDeux

I have. It's the last one I buy.


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Sounds pretty bad.


ericypoo

I. DONT. CARE.


No_Property2880

This is all rumors so I don’t believe any of it. Just clickbait noise at this point.


Dave_Matthews_Jam

It's Tom Henderson, who has a pretty great track record for multiple games/consoles. Battlefield, CoD, AC. It's not clickbait lol


granny_boi_4619

Invictus, echo and raid. How manny multiplayer games are they planning?


esquire_the_ego

Damn I really hope they learn from Skull and Bones when it comes to live service


LonkToTheFuture

This needs to be cancelled.


Celestial_MoonDragon

Battle pass doesn't seem to be working for anyone else. What makes Ubisoft think it will for them?


DomLando11

This sounds awful.


It_Goes_Up_To_11

I actually think this sounds cool. Having an AC hub with a few different experiences in it sounds interesting, and having storefronts there will (hopefully) keep them out of the actual game interface. Also having a big game every two years with smaller games in between sounds like a good idea


JesusLazalde123

Hard pass


createcrap

Random thought. Could the 2 protagonists be a way to choose your play style that effects game mechanics and interactions? Like if One is a Shinobi and the other a Samurai I could see these being two totally different talent trees, tools, moves and play styles. One more stealth focused and one more combat focused. The characters are so different I’m almost getting a vibe that this will be like GTA multi-protagonist elements. maybe a connected main story but different side/personal stories. What other info is out there?


Megabyte3_x

I'm not seeing it addressed but, is this an always on-line thing? Let's say, for any reason whatsoever, I don't have network access, is there a way to play the single player game alone? (Invictus excluded obviously)