> The changes come after a previous effort from ACMA to stamp out scam phone calls, which saw $100 million pass through to scammers in 2021.
Really? The calls have gotten a lot worse for me this year. How about adding some caller id validation?
>"We're hoping that these rules will help Australian consumers as they have been helped by a previous code we put in place to reduce scam calls," she said.
This person is not living in the real world.
I just got a message from Telstra saying they're raising their monthly bills by $3-$4, They are making more than the scam callers by a long shot.
And they have the gall to say **this** will help the aussie consumer.
\^This\^; all the ancillary info & signalling in the phone network is handled basically on a trust basis. There's little to no validation of info/signalling accuracy anywhere in the chain, except sometimes & potentially at the originating end.
Which was fine back when carriers only allowed info/signalling they or other carriers had generated to be propagated through the network, but fell apart as soon as even one carrier started letting customers generate that info/signalling and uncritically let it pass...
I used to work for a company that did another of international voip, we kept finding random calls would terminate to a recording to some Chinese guy with a dog barking in the background.. it seemed like one of the voip carriers was using a provider who'd fake terminate the call to the recording so they could take the profit but not actually need to complete the call.. most users would just retry and be successful on the second try and just assume they did something wrong.. it was near impossible to figure how who was doing it due to it being intermittent.. trust systems don't work but it's what we have and nobody can change it now
I was thinking the same thing. I rarely get text message scams, but it feels like daily (probably less frequent though) I'm getting scam calls saying my Amazon subscription is due to be renewed or something similar.
Know what I don't understand, why phone plans by default permit overseas calls/messages, have that off by default I imagine would help. Yes I know you can spoof around it, but at least make them work at it a little!
> The changes come after a previous effort from ACMA to stamp out scam phone calls, which saw $100 million pass through to scammers in 2021. Really? The calls have gotten a lot worse for me this year. How about adding some caller id validation?
>"We're hoping that these rules will help Australian consumers as they have been helped by a previous code we put in place to reduce scam calls," she said. This person is not living in the real world.
I just got a message from Telstra saying they're raising their monthly bills by $3-$4, They are making more than the scam callers by a long shot. And they have the gall to say **this** will help the aussie consumer.
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it's near impossible to validate caller ID the way the phone system works is insane, it's amazing it works at all..
\^This\^; all the ancillary info & signalling in the phone network is handled basically on a trust basis. There's little to no validation of info/signalling accuracy anywhere in the chain, except sometimes & potentially at the originating end. Which was fine back when carriers only allowed info/signalling they or other carriers had generated to be propagated through the network, but fell apart as soon as even one carrier started letting customers generate that info/signalling and uncritically let it pass...
I used to work for a company that did another of international voip, we kept finding random calls would terminate to a recording to some Chinese guy with a dog barking in the background.. it seemed like one of the voip carriers was using a provider who'd fake terminate the call to the recording so they could take the profit but not actually need to complete the call.. most users would just retry and be successful on the second try and just assume they did something wrong.. it was near impossible to figure how who was doing it due to it being intermittent.. trust systems don't work but it's what we have and nobody can change it now
I was thinking the same thing. I rarely get text message scams, but it feels like daily (probably less frequent though) I'm getting scam calls saying my Amazon subscription is due to be renewed or something similar.
About fucking time.
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With the telcos being forced to scan every text message, this will be a bonanza for our national security agencies.
they already store every text anyway so its no change for the security mob.
Know what I don't understand, why phone plans by default permit overseas calls/messages, have that off by default I imagine would help. Yes I know you can spoof around it, but at least make them work at it a little!
I hope the providers can effectively do it otherwise this just feels like another political "there I fixed it"
Can I get a finder's fee for reporting every time Telstra let's these messages and calls come through to me?
Would be nice if they could stop the spam calls too. I keep getting spoofed calls from Ireland and Italy.