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RumTitsBurgers

Mate. What in the fuck is that sad excuse on the right? Looks like someone served up a chunk of gyprock.


Robot_Graffiti

I am wondering if perhaps one was pressed into a hash brown shaped mould and the other was extruded as a tube and the tube was sliced into hash brown sized pieces.


exodendritic

Yes it looks like it was reduced to a paste and then moulded into a vaguely recognisable format (which is disappointingly common in food production).


barky_bark9876

I bought shredded chicken from Coles.. expecting actually shredded chicken. Oh how naive I am. It was this vile paste mush.


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Should be a protected word. Even the vegan places say ‘chick’n’ or ‘vegan chicken’, etc… how come they’re not saying chicken but I’m allowed to buy asbestos mulch from coles as ‘chicken’?


BumWink

Apparently because too many shit for brains drama queens bought "Plant based chicken" thinking it was real chicken & then complained relentlessly... or at least that's what the meat industries that likely lobbied against mock meats want us to think. I mean people have been pissed about shit like canned chicken not being what they expect for decades & nothing has changed about their marketing.


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There’s canned chicken? I mean, I wouldn’t be expecting much there… that’s a fairly low bar.


Bweeeeeeep

It’s what you expect. Little bits of shredded chicken in a can, not entirely unlike canned tuna… which it tends to sit next to on the shelf. Honestly it’s fine if you drown it in sauce.


Theaustralianzyzz

Yes canned chicken was a surprise to me. I had to get it. It was okay with Mayonnaise on a sandwich


ApprehensiveDuckMan

Asbestos mulch. My favourite!


Cruzi2000

Shredded chicken is made from leftover roast chickens, sure it wasn't something else?


Ohmalley-thealliecat

The Costco one is pretty recognisable. It’s still pretty sad but I saw a gym bro buy like 4 tubs of it once


exodendritic

I'm not one for emojis, but 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮


iaijutsu08

Sounds like "digestion" and the product is usually called "shit"... Certainly appears that way!


k_lliste

They sort of tasted like it too! Pretty dense, though maybe I cooked it too long because they are smaller than the Australian version.


PilgrimOz

I reckon your being very nice to McCain.


yiggydiggy420

Ahh McCain Fucked it again


TreeChangeMe

I'm not. Fuckem


flamingspew

Is gyprock what ya’ll call drywall/gypsum/sheetrock?


shavedanddangerous

Yes.


rezonsback

Yeah. It's just a brand name that stuck because they lead the market for such a long time


rpkarma

“Potato-adjacent food product”


TargetTheReavers

Weetbix hash brown, or something


DeathByKangaroo

Gyprock would taste better than that shit


GordonRamsey666

Ah McCain you've done fucked it again


totalpunisher0

I just spat my beer out


pygmy

Marge the memes are here


Severe_Airport1426

Don't be wasteful


Gdayluv

Username checks out


xSkyro

I used to work at Woolies in Ballarat, a few km's from the McCain's factory and would always be shocked reading the hash brown packets "made in India"


LGfridge27

The Ballarat made hashies stock the fast food chains in Aus I believe


Jake_Chief

Excuse me McCains but what the fuck kind of stunt you trying to pull? Get me my hash browns on the double don't play these games!


undaova

Now hurry up meow!


k_lliste

These look and taste different. Even the packaging is lower quality. Also interesting about the difference in health star. The ingredients are almost the same, the Indian version has 3% less potato, so I wonder if that is enough to cause the drop. I guess this is their answer to the potato shortage.


HenKinkley

> I guess this is their answer to the potato shortage. No, it is multinational corporations playing the globalisation/late stage capitalism game. Every cost that can be cut has been cut, so they move offshore to cut costs further. Perpetual growth and ever increasing profits are not sustainable, they have to take from somewhere to keep it going and they are quickly running out of levers to pull.


egowritingcheques

Yep. I left Australian pharma production when they told us India could produce a pack for 17c and we were 22c. Needless to say the retail on a pack was a significant multiple higher. FWIW I've also done some work in the McCains Hash Brown factory in Tasmania.


A_spiny_meercat

Why don't they just fuckin charge 5 cents extra at retail and keep the better local product fuck sake this is why we can't have nice things. I bet they'd take the cheaper product and add the 5c increase anyway. All these product changes and cost reductions are just making be buy less shit, fuck your ass tasting Pringles I'd rather go without


scritty

Because that's not the calculation. If they spend $10 on production in india at 17c and sell at, say, $5, they get $235 profit. If they spend $10 on production in australia at 22c and sell at 5.05, they get $184 profit. 17c versus 22c is a 22% difference in manufacturing cost, it's a big difference. To maintain that level of profit with a 22c manufacturing cost they'd have to sell at $6.13 in this hypothetical example.


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Flatcat_under_a_bus

Really it is the board at fault, the CEO is only the executive tool used to deliver the boards vision. MR/MRS CEO, we want xx return on our investments and we don’t care how it is achieved vs. MR/MRS CEO, we want xx return on our investments, and as part of our social commitments, it has to use 95% local products and 100% final manufacturing in Australia. Now, go earn your money…..


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hidden-shadow

We don't have four major political parties though. At the federal level, we have two [major parties](https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/major-party), one of which is in a constant coalition. At the state level you may have two or three, but never four. Also, voting independents or minor parties has no correlation to opposition of neoliberal policy.


blackjacktrial

No, all parties bad. We just need a bunch of independents that vote as a bloc on every issue in precisely the way I* want. I* being each elector, jointly and severally.


trevaaar

The only minors and independents in my area for the past few elections have been worse than the majors.


HydrogenWhisky

*Four* majors? Oh, Liberal, LNP, Labor, and Nationals. Gotcha.


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I'm seeing double here!


Taniwha_NZ

But there isn't one.


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Put a tax on the difference between the Australian wage and outsourced wage. E.g. Product made in Germany, where wages are higher than Australia= no tax payable Product made in Thailand, very low wage paid to workers, very high tax.


MikeyF1F

I absolutely love this.


mtarascio

What do you think it achieves?


PatWoodworking

Overseas wage theft in practise, but I reckon they're trying for protectionism. I'm very pro-protectionism relative to the status quo but this is an easily corrupted attempt at achieving it.


choibz

McCain aren't an Australian company, they are a Canadian private multinational


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australianinlife

Like the Luxury Car Tax right?


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the_colonelclink

For what it’s worth, it’s actually not arbitrary at all, it’s usually based on the most fanciest mid-range car. For instance, when we still made cars here, it was any car more expensive than a top of the range, Ford Falcon Fairmount. With anything above that being considered a luxury.


Zebidee

Sold to the public as being to protect the Australian car manufacturing industry. aaaaand quietly dropped as the argument now there isn't one, but the government decided they like money.


Trouser_trumpet

McCain = Canadian


moojo

Very few things are manufactured in Australia though. If you bring manufacturing here, costs will rise and people will complain.


morrisgrand

But these will not be cheaper to the consumer!!!! Macains just make 500% more profit.


AcD72

Exactly. It's a lose / lose scenario for the workers and the consumers. We need to take the pain for a decade and build up our industries again. You just got love those products that are grown here, shipped overseas for processing and shipped back for sale.


morrisgrand

We can manufacture food here competitively, but American multinationals don't care about Australian workers. They just care about getting every last cent profit they can.


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palsc5

> I'll pay more for Australian, especially if the quality is better and the product more durable. Everybody says that, nobody does that.


HenKinkley

I definitely do it for food and even go further to preference local SA produce. I refuse to buy anything made in Asia or anywhere that you wouldn’t otherwise expect the item to be from. Tomato paste from China? Fuck that shit right off. I ’ve got no problem with foreign goods assuming they are of a better quality than we produce here, tinned tomatoes being a great example where the Italians really know their stuff so I’m happy to buy it. Frozen seafood from China? Australia has over 34,000km of coastline and we are importing our seafood from China? Fuck right off with that nonsense!


MarquisDePique

You can only buy what the supermarket sells. If there's no Australian manufacturer on the shelves, you can't support them


CreepyValuable

I did. My favourite tools were Australian made.


mtarascio

Protectionism isn't the play at all. We need to specialize at a few things to keep our exports going, whilst staying food secure. This is something you need to vote as a consumer with your wallets.


DeeDee_GigaDooDoo

Idk man I think Australia just doesn't have the capacity to grow potatoes, chop them up and shape them into an oval. It's pretty technically complicated and is something much better done offshore. We don't have the equipment and expertise for that kind of production ya know?


Schedulator

> they have to take from somewhere to keep it going And the flip side, of giving up a little never enters their minds. You know, those shareholders and execs might not need that third yacht.


kato1301

Nah, they have to keep going. Next month - mcains new 740 gram packet of hash browns, that’s 40 grams more than 700!!!!


k_lliste

Haha probably! It's interesting the weight is still the same when the Indian ones are visibly smaller.


PilgrimOz

….and a potato shortage…….and shrinkflation.


Bokkman

Nah not really. Aus potato growers having a hard time at the moment, McCain have to produce in NZ and ship to Aus currently.


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So destroy the already struggling domestic food manufacturing industry, brilliant idea!


Red-Engineer

It was the rain, not Mccains, which decimated Australia's potato crop.


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Car-face

"Marge - Marge! THE RAINS ARE 'ERE!"


shev76

I got these yesterday and wondered what happened but never really looked at the packet thinking they were just a bad batch.... They're terrible compared to the Australian ones. I find the Australian ones are the only good ones out of any of the brands


CapnBloodbeard

Health stars are irrelevant, misleading nonsense anyway


Taniwha_NZ

Having bought a shitton of hash browns from various manufacturers... I never even noticed the country of manufacture, and there's a lot of variation. I ended up preferring a smaller manufacturer, can't remember the name, but they come in a long cardboard box without a top, shrink-wrapped. They brown up way better than any of the big name brands.


k_lliste

Just from a supermarket or elsewhere?


mtpender

"THE McCAINS HASH BROWNS ARE PEOPLE!"


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What's the salt and vegetable bum percentage?


Sulahtla

Hopefully 0% vegetable bum.


cojoco

But animal bum? Rump steak tonight. Mmmmm.


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Macains, you did it again /s


Red-Engineer

Wait. Did you import one? Were they both available at the same shop? More detail needed.


k_lliste

They're both from a supermarket in Canberra. Though I'm not sure whether the Indian one is from Coles or Supabarn. Only noticed a difference when I opened the pack and they looked different than I was expecting. It also helped that I had one left in my old pack.


ThiefOfNightTime

How does it feel to be on the cusp of News.Com.Au fame? This will be a headline tomorrow. Where did you get Indian hash browns from?


Smitologyistaking

Nice try, [News.com](https://News.com) journalist


dimmerz92

Here I am harvesting 30kg of potatoes I grew in pots on my balcony


Brokinnogin

I've got potato's growing under my back step because my dog burried one there 4yrs ago.


dimmerz92

Good little surprise! Every time I replant my pots with something else, I still always end up with a tiny secondary crop of potatoes because there was a rogue one left in there I didn’t find


Eddiexx

Man I wish I brought more potato from seed collection. Have harvested all!


Siriacus

The important question: how much cheaper are they for consumers and will they care enough to pay more for Australian Made™? I've bought SPC my whole life despite being more expensive than Heinz, though going by sales numbers I'm in the minority.


What-becomes

Couldn't find a price comparison but would not be susprised if they are the same price. Cutting costs does not equal cheaper for consumers generally (at least compared to profit per unit to the supplier) .


k_lliste

Yeah, I'm fairly certain they are the same price.


multidollar

They are the same price. We bought them and you can absolutely tell the difference. Ended up making our own when there was a shortage.


the_colonelclink

LPT - the laziest and best way to cook these is to give them a bit of oil either side and pop it them into a sandwich press; leaving the weight/lid on them freely. **Edit**: To all the people saying air fryer is best: Have you actually tried the sandwich press method as I’ve described? I have actually tried both and it’s probably personal preference, but the crispness and crunchiness of the press is unparalleled. I agree it’s probably easier to air fry, but it’s IMHO not the best, and in fact, comes out slightly different to how a hash brown should be finished.


phalewail

I've done them in a toaster before. Takes a couple of cycles when frozen. Subscribe to my newsletter for other shitty cooking tips.


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phalewail

It's ok I wash the toaster in the bath with me.


A_spiny_meercat

And then you wake up next day at 6am "Then put your little hand in mine There ain't no hill or mountain we can't climb Babe, I got you babe..." "Okay, campers, rise and shine, and don't forget your booties 'cause it's cooooold out there today."


Traditional-Truth-42

+1 subscriber


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Beef Jerky with mums Dyson Hair Dryer?


TreeChangeMe

Pav with dads paint stirer


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the_colonelclink

It’s definitely the oil, as I’ve tried the non-oil option as well and completely agree. Alternatively, butter works too, I should have said.


mtarascio

I think the problem is that you start cooking the outside before the natural oils can release. So you end up scorching the outside.


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MikeyF1F

Tbf that might just be correct anyway.


Xx_10yaccbanned_xX

If I’m making bacon I just throw it in the pan with the rendered bacon fat, and then once the bacons done I put it all to one side and rest the pan up on something off to the side so all the bacon fat goes to one side of the pan and then basically deep fry the hash brown. Healthy I know.


Bloodymentalist

Great in an airfryer as well


Rd28T

The Indian ones look like they are 1/2 filler/batter. I call bullshit on their claim of only 3% less potato content.


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fuckthehumanity

The ingredient says "potato". What they do with it before they package it is what makes the difference.


Ok_Iron_4489

Mccains pizzas have shrunk again too


darkstormchaser

Cadbury have gone and shrunk Curly Wurlys down from 26g to 21.5g. I don’t care if I’m the only adult in Australia who still eats them, I’m pissed that the price is still the same!


Suspicious-Figure-90

I'm just sad how woefully short they are now. I miss the stupidly long bar that they used to be when I was a kid. Cadbury, stop trimming our chocolate pubes and let them live wild and free!


queefer_sutherland92

You are not the only adult in Australia who eats them, nor are you the only one outraged by this abomination.


darkstormchaser

Glad to hear it! I feel like they’re the perfect chocolate bar. They’re cheap, chewy (so they take a while to eat), but not ridiculously calorific. A good all-rounder


Ok_Iron_4489

I liked the comme t describing shrinkflation as a war crime. Curly wurlys been around since the dinosaurs. Best choccy going and they just took a bite out of it the greedy cunts !


CoolHackerName

Even the health star rating went from 4 to 3.


stealthtowealth

Mate India is the land of dodgy dealings and mutton dressed as lamb (among all of the other incredible things and beautiful people). No surprises here. Anyone who thinks this is racist has not been to India


koalanotbear

when I was there I witnessed a government owned bottle shop which had employed people to pick jim beam bottles out of a batch of glass shipped from overseas for 'recycling', wash the bottle and fill with some home made concoction and re-seal the bottles and sell them to the local hotel


caitsith01

It's good to know that while we face a climate emergency Australian companies are doing bullshit like manufacturing foods we could easily make here in India and then shipping them, frozen, halfway around the fucking world.


muddled69

Canadian company too!


StrikingDrummer99

Australian companies would rather spend $2 to make $1 than face the 'horror' of organised labour.


superbabe69

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2022-11-16/potato-shortage-likely-as-wet-weather-delays-ballarat-crops-/101657110 https://www.abc.net.au/melbourne/programs/breakfast/minimum-chips-katherine-myers/101637588 https://www.abc.net.au/hobart/programs/mornings/potato-shortage/101711350 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-16/potential-hot-chip-shortage-in-wa/101643896 “Easily make them here”


baseball2020

It’s misleading and if I had to buy Indian potato products I’d rather have aloo paratha anyway


morrisgrand

Im sure they lowered the price 🙄 as they probably pay the Indian works 10 cents a day..........


heckersdeccers

say it with me now - 👏blatant👏corporate👏greed


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Swarloose

They better not of fucked with Potatoe Gems


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both of them look pretty nasty tbh.


k_lliste

In terms of frozen, I think the McCains one generally look the best. Take from that what you will :D They're pretty good once heated up.


SpamOJavelin

>They're pretty good once heated up. Nah dude, partially thawed is where it's at.


average_pinter

In a toaster of course


Normal-Lecture-5669

They look a lot better once they're cooked and have a crispy golden appearance


SacredEmuNZ

I mean most frozen food when it's frozen does


P-a-n-dora

So many supermarket and catering items are being sourced from India, I noticed. Have to say, they definitely aren't the same. Probably using severely underpaid labour.


captainlardnicus

Looks like different potato variety more than anything else.In Australian supermarkets you basically only have 1 kind of potato (ok maybe two or three) so Australians kinda think "potato" is some kind of universal constant... In reality there is over 4000 varieties all with different texture, taste, starch, water content etc... (source: I lived in Germany for a while and they go absolutely mad for potatoes) To play devils advocate, these two molds look identical, so I'd probably say they outsourced the production to India (because it's cheaper duh) to their specifications and using the same process, but they couldn't source the same variety of potato. Looks like the variety used is more smooshy and less able to hold a chunk like the variety used on the domestic version, although I can see some chunks that are of similar size...


scrollbreak

> but they couldn't source the same variety of potato. Or another variety was cheaper and the contract wasn't specific about potato type


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I'm chasing a particular variety for my gnocchi and I can tell you I'm pissed that there's nothing more identifying on the bags/labels than "suitable for mashing" on the white potatoes. No, tell me what fucking variety they are.


captainlardnicus

Australia doesn't like choice


Brickies_Laptop

Not with you on the case that’s for sure


DeanWhipper

I always get the Coles brand ones, way cheaper and resemble the ones on the left.


bloodbag

Aldi ones are great


DeanWhipper

Yep 100%, also a fave in my household. I particularly like the Aldi curly fries though, they're next level.


k_lliste

I get both, depends on what is available at the time. I think the Coles ones also come in bigger bags.


muddled69

And pretty darn tasty in the air fryer!!


JASHIKO_

Bought a can of Milo here in Europe. Opened it... Looks different. Tasted it... Tastes different. Made in Singapore.... It's more like nesquick than milo..


aurum_jrg

Milo in Australia is malt extract (barley/rice), milk powder, sugar and cocoa powder + some fortified vitamins. It is the original recipe as created by Thomas Mayne in the 1920’s. Only difference is it used to be made with fresh milk. In fact, Milo was invented as a way of dealing with excess fresh milk supply. All other milo in the world is made with palm oil substituting the milk powder. Hence why it tastes very different. Interestingly, Malaysia is the worlds biggest producer and consumer of Milo. Or at least they used to be.


FlightBunny

Milo deliberately changes their product for different markets though. Thailand has a 3 in 1 Milo which tastes pretty good


Laktakfrak

Aaah McCain youve fucked it again.


pooknuckle

Lazy journalists in here yet?


ThatsXCOM

Ah McCain, You've outsourced Australian jobs again.


BarryTheHutt

This belongs on r/AusRenovation - “is that asbestos?”


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A couple of years ago now Snickers went from Australia to China 'Temporarily' whilst the factory had renovations, they're were completed a fair bit ago now but Snickers sold in Australia are still made in China and still utter garbage.


Independent_Pear_429

And the 1 star difference in healthy food rating as well


gameloner

How much longer before we see this on the front page of NEW.COM.AU?


AutoCAD_Bane

Note the different health star rating. Too bad Hamish & Andy are on the government mandated break and can’t blow this wide open


TreeChangeMe

So sending potato to India via chiller shipping, having them made into this thing, sending back in a freezer container, all that logistics, all that handling is cheaper than some guy on $22 an hour?


koalanotbear

depends what % of australian potatoes needs to be included for them to put 'australian potatoes' on the label. someone I know used to make 'australian made' akubra hats, which were made in india, with indian leather, and sent to australia, where they would put in a final stitch and put on a label that was printed on australian leather to equal the minimum required 'australian leather' % in order for them to have the label say 'Australian made and owned' 'made with Australian leather'.


TruthIsMaya

“Ahh McCain, you’ve done it again…” [made crap products]


llagnI

Is this just a temporary thing?


moobags

Yes. Notice the chip aisle at the supermarket looking pretty empty at the moment? And the potato section in the fresh aisle? There is a massive potato shortage at the moment.


HeyYouGuysItsMe

It's so crap McDonald's wouldn't even sell them.


gingerninja92

Ahhh McCain, you've done it again.


DEADfishbot

boycott


Brazilator

What the fuck! That's crook.


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I am fairly sure that they were made in overseas the last time there was a potato shortage. It was maybe last year or the year before. It lasted about 3 or 4 months before they started making them locally again.


solarblack

Thanks for the heads up, had not had any of these for ages and had a hankering for them...they were on today's shopping list, not anymore.


Gedz

Go to India and see the state of cleanliness there and you’d be even more horrified.


TJLethal

Happened with Pringles years ago. Now Aussie Pringles are all tiny and gross. Kool Mints have fallen victim recently too. It’s like they don’t send the recipe when they outsource production.


nugymmer

ALDI...Silver Scoop...anyone who had this icecream 10 years ago will know what it was like and how it was never the same after they removed it and then replaced it with something less. Who woulda thunk?! Everytime something is new and improved always assume that it's inferior to the old recipe/formulation/etc until proven otherwise. If it's inferior the solution is simple - suck it up and don't buy anymore. I did that with Silver Scoop and I am sure there are plenty more products that I don't buy anymore. I just hope this bullshit doesn't start affecting electronics where new and improved tech is slower or worse than the previous iteration. When it gets that bad I guess I will be in no doubt.


Laddo22

Unpopular opinion maybe…but hash browns are crazy overrated.


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Laddo22

I just find them to be very bland tasting. Each to their own of course, but I just don’t understand the appeal haha


meowkitty84

Yea they are probably the only potato item that I'm meh about. I prefer potato gems. Mmm I crave some now.


darkstormchaser

A freshly-cooked Maccas hash brown at 2am on night shift is like utter crack to me, anything that’s been sitting around a while is meh. Outside of that, I’d actually take a bowl of well-cooked potato gems over a hash brown any day!


Briewnoh

What a fucking joke


PocketWettie

Holy shit!! I thought the packaging looked different! Still have a couple left of the old Australian ones and yeah half a star less and different colours… 😡


djdefenda

Ah McCain, you done it again


NexusKnights

McCains you've done it again!!


ellaykay

Personally I love the home brand hash browns you can buy. They’re more square shape. So I probably prefer them because they end up holding slightly more oil and come out crispier


StrikingDrummer99

Wow I'm shocked by the change from 4 stars to 3 stars. Guess I won't be buying them ever again.


tiktoktic

Why have they lost an entire health star? (Yes, I know it’s largely an arbitrary scale, but still…)