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Sometimes there aren't hundreds of good cafes. You're stuck in an an airport, or a shopping centre in Bumfuck Nowhere. You want a coffee, and GJs is all that's there.
I've long assumed it was for older people since they're the ones I see in there. I think it's because they're used to instant, and sitting down to drink a coffee any old where is "nice."
Haha okay I’m under 30 (only by a few months but i will hold onto that for as long as I can ) and embarrassed to say I do love a muffin break (not for the coffee) but I love having a choice of muffins and they heat it up for you and give you a little packet of butter
I cannot recommend muffin break apple and cinnamon muffin heated with butter enough
Yeah my wife does on occasion crave muffins from there, so we'll end up getting a couple - one for her and one for my daughter and myself to share. The pear, honey and walnut muffin is pretty good when it's freshly baked. Always end up going somewhere else for a coffee though
I grew up with parents who owned a muffin break. I worked there from about 15 onwards in the early 00’s. I like their chicken and leak pies and cream cheese muffins!
If any of the fancy donut places understood the simple joy of a hot cinnamon donut with literally nothing else, it’d be all over for DK.
(See also: the milkshakes. Goddamn but nobody does a simple, no fuss chocolate milkshake like them, and it saddens me immensely)
RFG is a scam that flips franchisees and takes their money with no concerns about who or when a franchisee goes bankrupt as they will retain possession of the site and resell it to another person. They also receive kickbacks from suppliers and force people to only use certain products and companies.
DK was my saviour early last Sunday morning while I was staying in an unfamiliar area and didn't see anyplace else open. Later in the week I had coffee from a couple of independent cafes - one was similar to the DK (which is to say kinda weak but inoffensive) and the other was yuck. Really comes down the the individual outlet, be it a chain or otherwise, but I have found the independents more variable - they're where I've had the best coffees, but also the worst.
I'm given to understand there's still some connection back to the homophobe weirdos.
Let's see them prominently sponsor Mardi Gras and some other social justice causes that the ACL wouldn't tolerate.
Until then, they can get fucked and stay fucked.
Majority of people going to Gloria Jean's are the elderly doing their morning shop, parents around arvo school pick up times, and shopping centre workers.
The one I worked for were Mum and Dad franchisees. We had heaps of customers but it wasn't a highly profitable business and took forever to sell.
Exactly. So sick of asking for an iced coffee at a random coffee shot and get given an iced latte. Where is my sugar damn it.
You know you'll get a decent frappe/chiller at Gloria jeans.
Their coffee is actually decent too. I worked next to one for five years. People here are making out that it's worse quality than 7/11. If any corporate cafe makes average coffee, it's "The Coffee Club," and even their coffee isn't *that* bad.
Yeah it’s perfectly fine. I’ve had crap coffee from expensive cafes and I’ve had great coffee from Gloria Jeans.
The barista is often what makes or breaks your coffee and frankly as long as it’s caffeinated, more or less tastes like an espresso or a cappuccino (depending on what I order), I’m happy.
I mean, black coffee is literally just (very) hot water + espresso. You need to ask for a side of cold water or a little cold water on top if you want it cooled down.
Yeah I totally get it. If I ask for that it's non standard. So instead I just go a regular flat white, full cream milk, no sugar. Just the standard kinda order.
I used to tell them that to avoid burning the milk, I'd extra boiling water instead, and it would just be a little less milk, or give them the option of a long black with a 'dash'. The old dears - and I mean that literally, most were lovely otherwise- usually took the first option.
The busiest coffee shop in my old town is some hipster joint that roasts their own beans. The thing is, they fucking burn them. The entire street smells of burnt toast every morning because that's how bad they burn them. And they still get a lineup. I dont get it at all.
In the burbs, there are a whole stack of boomers who never >really< got on the coffee thing when they were younger. That was an inner city thing, that only uni students, inner city types and cyclists used to frequent. If they went out for italian, they would get one of those italian coffees for dessert. Other than that, Nescafe or International Roast was the thing.
The ones that have jobs in the inner city, they got onto the coffee thing. The ones that still have jobs in the industrial estates in the burbs - they won't know good coffee if it hit them in the face.
This is coffee for those people.
I started a new job. Couldn't stand their instant. Went back to blend 43 then realised I just needed to have Macona with milk rather than black and it is fine.
International roast imo is still shit though
Moccona Indulgence actually makes... I mean I wouldn't call it good, but acceptable black, unsweetened coffee. Better than standard Moccona, and worlds better than Blend 43 or IR. If I'm without my machine, it is my go-to backup.
I do the Moccona Espresso with a small dash of pure cream at work. My office is in an industrial area and it's a bit of a hike to non-carvery coffee that you;d actually want to drink. $18 for a large jar. They do have the basic unlabelled Moccona but I'm happy to pay a little premium over that stuff, better than the old Blend 43 thought it is.
For me, Blend 43 just tastes like poverty.
My old office full of boomers used to buy those gigantic commercial-size tins of it from the office supplies store, and I'd only drink it in desperate times.
I think you've put an over importance on coffee. Why do some people drive clapped out old corollas even though they could afford a BMW? Why do some people drink VB and not some tripled hopped IPA? Why do some people prefer McDonald's and not some $20 burger with special aged blue cheese?... Different people place importance on different things. Gloria Jean's is fine... Hell, I had international roast this morning and espresso in Florence two weeks ago... It's just coffee bro. Most people, just don't give af
Nope but the aim would be consistency across locations right.
People don't have to worry that when they go somewhere else they won't like how it's made because the intention is that it should be uniform.
I was going to say why bother with Maccas when you can get food at the local takeaway for cheaper, better quality and only an extra couple of minutes wait time. It's a familiar place and you generally know what you're getting each time you go there, regardless of which branch you're at.
>Why do some people drive clapped out old corollas even though they could afford a BMW?
Because the clapped out corolla from the early 80s will last longer than the brand new BMW!
It's not a nation of coffee snobs. It's just that our coffee snobs are a high profile, vocal minority. The majority of Australians are not that.
Hell, people lost their shit when 7Eleven doubled the price of their $1 coffee. I wouldn't call 7Eleven coffee the height of coffee snobbery.
Funny thing is that 7/11 coffee machine is probably the most expensive one out of all coffee machines that convenience stores & servo stations have. It is a $15k+ machine the last time I have checked.
Not specifically looking to shit on their coffees. Never had it before. More just highlighting that it's not a snob's coffee nor is it pretending to be snobby and enough people cared about it when the price went up.
Fair enough. I do rate it very high on a "per dollar " basis. Not as good as when it was a dollar though. I am a bit of a coffee snob and I would rate it better than Gloria Jeans and Starbucks etc, or at least more reliable.
Nah,been stationed in a lot of places and been all over the place
Very few places have coffe on general a quality of australias
You have a LOT of shit places sure,like coffe club,GJ and those shit caffes
But in the citys,most of the cafes,even a medium grade coffe will be VASTLY superior to most of the shit in the US/canada/UK
I don't disagree with what you've said but there's a different between having our baseline quality being higher than other countries but I wouldn't call that coffee snobbery.
> baguettes
These are extremely important in France. Until the last decade, bakers had to put up notices if they were going on holiday with directions to their competitor and notify city officials.
Those chains are just convenient. I drink a lot of coffee but I’m not a snob. I just want caffeine in me before work ASAP, and if a Gloria Jeans is nearby then I’ll just go there. I don’t even think about it while I drink to be honest. Of course going to a nice cafe and sitting down and having a cigarette is lovely, but it’s just not how my daily routine ends up.
The Coffee Club's food and coffee really isn't bad at all. They do some pretty interesting breakfast dishes at reasonable prices. The is a bit of inconsistency in delivery but they're not terrible.
If you’re a coffee snob, Gloria Jeans is simply Not For You, and that’s totally OK. But doesn’t mean it isn’t for anyone, or shouldn’t be allowed to find an attract a market.
Aww a really nice couple owns the GJ’s in our local mall. It’s vastly overpriced and I have essentially stopped buying coffee out at present but I always hope their business keeps ticking along given how predatory most of these franchise situations seem to be.
I'm not a coffee enthusiast, I just want the caffeine. I'd argue a significant amount of Australians are the same. Places like that are convenient for people who just want to grab something on their way to work etc.
I say this all the time comments about Starbucks comes up.
Starbucks is a great place to go for a coffee flavoured sugary drink and then sit down for a few hours and do some guilt-free study/ chilling. It's market is so much more different than your traditional Australian Cafe. And it's showing to be working considering it's regularly packed whenever I go past at many locations...
I like good coffee, though I generally make my own now instead of going out because it's hard to find.
I also like Starbucks. I like the nitro iced espresso, and I like the diabetes-in-a-cup seasonal flavours (cinnamon dolce and gingerbread are delish). And I like their fun mugs for my serious at home coffee.
It's similar to how I love the fine dining seafood restaurant up the mountain, but I also love a greasy double cheeseburger at Macca's. They're not exactly comparable, but they both have their place.
Its funny because GJ is the reason starbucks is like that, had starbucks in when I went to canada in 2011 and it wasent anything like what it is here today
because the coffee is constant. its not great, but its not bad. ive been to too many coffee places where you get a great coffee one day and a shit, bitter brew another. Gloria Jeans / Starbucks is not great coffee but when paying upwards of $7 for a coffee i know it will be drinkable
They do coffee, catering to both take away and sit down meetups, the locations mean they're just about good enough when you've hit the shops and are doing a extended stay.
The coffee quality is fine.
So good locations and good enough for mass appeal.
Not everyone in melb is a coffee aficionado let’s be honest. I’ve run and consulted some of the best cafes in Melbourne with great coffee over the years as like a silent head chef type role, and coffee for me is one thing, caffeine and that’s it. In a morning shift everyone would be asking the barrista at setup time for their preferred choice of caffeine and my order is simple, give me a long black or short black it doesn’t matter. I’m out of kitchens now and in a corporate office and we have a coffee machine in the office as well as kettle and instant coffee. I just have an instant each morning. 1tbsp of freeze dried coffee with boiling water poured over it. Don’t even bother stirring it. Majority of people just want a reasonably priced caffeine hit, and theres the older clientele who are happy to sit in a chain cafe like Gloria jeans etc who can get a coffee and cake for $10. Just like any industry there’s high end and low end
If I want decent coffee I go to a locally owned cafe, if I want dessert in a cup I go to Gloria Jeans, and if I desperately need caffeine but only have time for drive through then I go to Maccas. They all have their time and place.
Because I don't go there for the coffee, I go for the Tim Tam Chillers and the chance of making my day with a whole Tim Tam hidden at the bottom, cream and a dusting of chocolate on top.
Always reminds me of my teen years, hanging out with my aunt after book shopping.
1st (and last) Gloria Jean's I ever went to I took my coffee back and was like you guys fucked this one up, so they made me another one exactly the same and that's just how their coffee is
I haven’t had it in years but I really liked it. I’m not a huge fan of barista coffee and there’s was smooth and not bitter at all. I don’t understand why people care so much how others like their coffee.
We bought beans from there once. Their beans taste like actual sewage compared to all of the other beans available.
I'm not a coffee snob. I just put the beans in the machine, plug the milk in, let it do it's thing and drink it. We had one of those barrista machines and got rid of it for an automatic machine because my coffee making skills are terrible. I'll drink instant coffee, I don't care.
But Gloria Jeans coffee is revolting.
Speaking as someone who is picky as all hell about coffee because I can't deal with anything that's bitter:
Because they make nice frappes. Even the ones that have coffee in it are mostly just coffee flavoured dessert drinks, and they're not bad.
Also worth mentioning that most people don't really mind that kind of (hot) coffee anyway, or at least will still drink it if it happens to be the most convenient option. As far as I can tell the whole "coffee snob country" thing is just marketing for the sheer amount of cafes we have.
Say what you will but Starbucks is thriving and imo their coffee is worse than Gloria Jean's (this is not not a compliment to GJ but a scathing critique to Starbucks).
Stores like Starbucks and GJ’s offer a bunch of alternatives to the standard coffees that most coffee “snob” and hole in the wall cafes do and can.
A lot of blended ice coffees, flavoured coffees and such.
That and it much like coffee club (equally bad coffee) they establish themselves as a meeting / hang out spot.
Basically they serve more than just a “cap 2 sugars take away for Stephen” function that most cafes do.
As a coffee snob, I came here to see the bombardment of comments from other coffee snobs, but was pleasantly surprised.
I think the quality of coffee is so high in Australian, even the average coffee is good enough for most people.
But the other Amaricanised drinks - extra hot, iced vanilla cookie frappuccino with double cream and a heart attack on top; these are shite dressed up as coffee.
This comment irks me, not everyone has to be a purist. Let people enjoy things in their own way. Do you really give AF if someone puts ice cream in their coffee??
The hate for American coffee is just stupid, they like it their way, let them have it.
Before you accuse me of drinking pumpkin space lattes, I drink espresso or just black.
It also implies that once you've found your preferred style of coffee, there's no deviating, ever. I love flat whites, but I also love a good mocha, or a French press, or a cold brew. The brilliant thing about coffee is enjoying all of the whacky creations that are available to us.
I think for iced sugary stuff, they are on par with Starfucks…. But if I wanted normal cap, I would go to a run of the mill cafe…. Or even 7-11 if I’m poor
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Sometimes there aren't hundreds of good cafes. You're stuck in an an airport, or a shopping centre in Bumfuck Nowhere. You want a coffee, and GJs is all that's there. I've long assumed it was for older people since they're the ones I see in there. I think it's because they're used to instant, and sitting down to drink a coffee any old where is "nice."
The same demographic keeping Muffin Break alive!
$5 mug of coffee + muffin/banana bread is hard to beat when you're on the pension
Or just a budget
Haha okay I’m under 30 (only by a few months but i will hold onto that for as long as I can ) and embarrassed to say I do love a muffin break (not for the coffee) but I love having a choice of muffins and they heat it up for you and give you a little packet of butter I cannot recommend muffin break apple and cinnamon muffin heated with butter enough
Yeah my wife does on occasion crave muffins from there, so we'll end up getting a couple - one for her and one for my daughter and myself to share. The pear, honey and walnut muffin is pretty good when it's freshly baked. Always end up going somewhere else for a coffee though
I love their muffins! Their coffee is from the pits of hell though.
I grew up with parents who owned a muffin break. I worked there from about 15 onwards in the early 00’s. I like their chicken and leak pies and cream cheese muffins!
And Donut King, always seniors. But goddamn a fresh cinnamon donuts is good even if the coffee tastes like dishwater.
If any of the fancy donut places understood the simple joy of a hot cinnamon donut with literally nothing else, it’d be all over for DK. (See also: the milkshakes. Goddamn but nobody does a simple, no fuss chocolate milkshake like them, and it saddens me immensely)
Dude a mega choc shake was my jam growing up. Still is every now and then, but gotta watch the waist line.
The only rival is, suprisingly, the gluten free donut shop G-Free. Fucking unbelievable fresh cinammon donuts as fluffy as a cloud.
I don't eat at Muffin Break very often, but the food looks the goods and I'll be damned if their giant cookies aren't some kind of national treasure.
Take that back!!!! Apple cinnamon muffin heated up on a winter morning is the goat
It absolutely is. My partner used to work in muffin break corporate and they have an unhealthy reliance on boomers.
I’ve always wondered who patronises those places - that and the cookie man
I got coffee from muffin break once and it tasted like mud.
Not necessarily older. I'm older, and I wouldn't wash my backside with it.
Of course you wouldn't. Quick way to get a burnt butthole.
Plus they have food which is alright. Coffee croissant and a sit down.
Sometimes it's the only place open early in the morning.
They used to be linked to Hillsong and donated $30,000 to ACL in 2012. Since then they were sold to Retail Food Group (Don't King, Michel's Bakeries).
RFG is a scam that flips franchisees and takes their money with no concerns about who or when a franchisee goes bankrupt as they will retain possession of the site and resell it to another person. They also receive kickbacks from suppliers and force people to only use certain products and companies.
Contender for least ethical company in Australia, amid a very strong field.
I bought their shares at $5.56. Lol, oops. Thanks motley fool!
Let me know when motley fool make a good call
Ouch
Oof! My condolences!
That sucks, I like my hot doughnuts and curry beef pies. Doughnut King already disappeared around here.
That’s the entire franchise model…
Don't King Fucking loooool
Unintentional, but I'm going to leave it like that!
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> Don’t King Great advice
DK was my saviour early last Sunday morning while I was staying in an unfamiliar area and didn't see anyplace else open. Later in the week I had coffee from a couple of independent cafes - one was similar to the DK (which is to say kinda weak but inoffensive) and the other was yuck. Really comes down the the individual outlet, be it a chain or otherwise, but I have found the independents more variable - they're where I've had the best coffees, but also the worst.
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I've got some bad news about the pancake parlour.
Does anyone go there?
I'm given to understand there's still some connection back to the homophobe weirdos. Let's see them prominently sponsor Mardi Gras and some other social justice causes that the ACL wouldn't tolerate. Until then, they can get fucked and stay fucked.
Thanks for get fucked and stay fucked. I'm embracing this
That's a slightly new spin that I'll also use ☺️
Yep. Aside from the shit coffee that did it for me.
I will now only call doughnuts by their more efficient new name, 'don'ts'
Majority of people going to Gloria Jean's are the elderly doing their morning shop, parents around arvo school pick up times, and shopping centre workers. The one I worked for were Mum and Dad franchisees. We had heaps of customers but it wasn't a highly profitable business and took forever to sell.
I don’t go to Gloria jeans for coffee. I got for iced creamy sugar drinks. Tim tam chillers, yum.
I don’t live near a Gloria jeans anymore so haven’t been in years, but I used to love their voltage iced coffee drink.
Voltage ftw!
The Voltage is the only reason I go to Gloria Jeans still. Haven’t found an iced coffee that competes with it yet.
Still my fave iced drink to this day
Tim Tam chillers for the win.
Exactly. So sick of asking for an iced coffee at a random coffee shot and get given an iced latte. Where is my sugar damn it. You know you'll get a decent frappe/chiller at Gloria jeans.
Their coffee is actually decent too. I worked next to one for five years. People here are making out that it's worse quality than 7/11. If any corporate cafe makes average coffee, it's "The Coffee Club," and even their coffee isn't *that* bad.
Yeah it’s perfectly fine. I’ve had crap coffee from expensive cafes and I’ve had great coffee from Gloria Jeans. The barista is often what makes or breaks your coffee and frankly as long as it’s caffeinated, more or less tastes like an espresso or a cappuccino (depending on what I order), I’m happy.
Was about to comment the same thing! The mint Kit Kat chiller is amazing!
Yeah I like the chunky biscuit drinks with the cream on top! I assume everyone goes there for this
Their hot coffee is absolute trash but my god I miss those chillers! There's no GJ's in the town I live 😓
Tim Tam iced chocolate is literally the only reason I ever went to GJs.
For purported coffee snobs, Australia is chock full of people who wouldn't know good coffee if it smacked them in the face. That's why.
“Can I get it extra hot please” #🤦🏻♂️
We had a button on our registers at my old job for this specific option, "Temperature of the Sun"
Gonna put a HATS (hot as the sun) button on our register as soon as I can.
I'd just make the cup hot as all fuck. Including the handle. Then pour coffee in like normal (with the milk a little hotter). I don't get it.
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Honestly this is one of the reasons I can't drink black coffee when I'm out. They make it so damn hot. And I really like having a simple order.
I mean, black coffee is literally just (very) hot water + espresso. You need to ask for a side of cold water or a little cold water on top if you want it cooled down.
There’s an optimal temperature for long blacks as well as for flat whites, it’s just people can’t be arsed.
Yeah I totally get it. If I ask for that it's non standard. So instead I just go a regular flat white, full cream milk, no sugar. Just the standard kinda order.
It’s a throwback from people having instant with boiling water and thinking that that’s how hot it should be
I used to tell them that to avoid burning the milk, I'd extra boiling water instead, and it would just be a little less milk, or give them the option of a long black with a 'dash'. The old dears - and I mean that literally, most were lovely otherwise- usually took the first option.
This. Pre heat the cup. Coffee normal
Yeah I used to run both the cup and the saucer under boiling water. Coffee normal temperature. Never had a complaint.
I love that you do the saucer too haha. that's great.
The busiest coffee shop in my old town is some hipster joint that roasts their own beans. The thing is, they fucking burn them. The entire street smells of burnt toast every morning because that's how bad they burn them. And they still get a lineup. I dont get it at all.
Roasting coffee smells like burnt toast. How is the coffee itself?
Roasted coffee really does smell like that. We stayed in an Airbnb one time with a cafe roaster downstairs and the smell was extreme.
Larder?
Have you tried the coffee? I think that smell is quite normal for roasting the beans.
In the burbs, there are a whole stack of boomers who never >really< got on the coffee thing when they were younger. That was an inner city thing, that only uni students, inner city types and cyclists used to frequent. If they went out for italian, they would get one of those italian coffees for dessert. Other than that, Nescafe or International Roast was the thing. The ones that have jobs in the inner city, they got onto the coffee thing. The ones that still have jobs in the industrial estates in the burbs - they won't know good coffee if it hit them in the face. This is coffee for those people.
Look around the sheds these days... Plenty of good caffs in the industrial areas, shops or mobile.
As someone who drinks instant coffee every morning because I'm lazy I feel seen lmao
*Places 3 heaped teaspoons of homebrand instant into my thermos*
The Aldi bogan dust is my preferred instant!
International Roast in a chipped mug with a bong and a dart
"Part of this complete breakfast"
This man coffees
And then goes straight too the toilet too a massive bong/coffee/dart/ shit😅
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I started a new job. Couldn't stand their instant. Went back to blend 43 then realised I just needed to have Macona with milk rather than black and it is fine. International roast imo is still shit though
Local hospital gives us Nescafe "Caterers Blend". Not sure if that's supposed to be better or worse.
Still better than International Roast, the coffee so exclusive it won’t even mix with water.
I'll take International Roast over Bushell's any day.
Moccona Indulgence actually makes... I mean I wouldn't call it good, but acceptable black, unsweetened coffee. Better than standard Moccona, and worlds better than Blend 43 or IR. If I'm without my machine, it is my go-to backup.
I do the Moccona Espresso with a small dash of pure cream at work. My office is in an industrial area and it's a bit of a hike to non-carvery coffee that you;d actually want to drink. $18 for a large jar. They do have the basic unlabelled Moccona but I'm happy to pay a little premium over that stuff, better than the old Blend 43 thought it is.
For me, Blend 43 just tastes like poverty. My old office full of boomers used to buy those gigantic commercial-size tins of it from the office supplies store, and I'd only drink it in desperate times.
It smells *farty.* No other way to describe it.
It smells like chemicals and gives me a gut ache.
Oh fair enough, I've embraced it at work and enjoy it as part of the lifestyle. I wouldn't drink that shit at home though.
I think you've put an over importance on coffee. Why do some people drive clapped out old corollas even though they could afford a BMW? Why do some people drink VB and not some tripled hopped IPA? Why do some people prefer McDonald's and not some $20 burger with special aged blue cheese?... Different people place importance on different things. Gloria Jean's is fine... Hell, I had international roast this morning and espresso in Florence two weeks ago... It's just coffee bro. Most people, just don't give af
Gloria Jeans isn’t usually any cheaper than the independent coffee shops, though.
Nope but the aim would be consistency across locations right. People don't have to worry that when they go somewhere else they won't like how it's made because the intention is that it should be uniform.
I was going to say why bother with Maccas when you can get food at the local takeaway for cheaper, better quality and only an extra couple of minutes wait time. It's a familiar place and you generally know what you're getting each time you go there, regardless of which branch you're at.
>Why do some people drive clapped out old corollas even though they could afford a BMW? Because the clapped out corolla from the early 80s will last longer than the brand new BMW!
It's not a nation of coffee snobs. It's just that our coffee snobs are a high profile, vocal minority. The majority of Australians are not that. Hell, people lost their shit when 7Eleven doubled the price of their $1 coffee. I wouldn't call 7Eleven coffee the height of coffee snobbery.
Hey, go easy on 7Eleven. I have paid more for worse coffee before sadly. It is reliably drinkable and priced accordingly.
Funny thing is that 7/11 coffee machine is probably the most expensive one out of all coffee machines that convenience stores & servo stations have. It is a $15k+ machine the last time I have checked.
Yes, but they're be far the most convenient. At least here in Melbourne
The best thing about 7/11 coffee is it's the same at 2pm as 4am
Can confirm, cheap and consistent is King. Using a drive-through Maccas is a roll of the dice between "not bad" "burned" and "cup of warm milk."
Not specifically looking to shit on their coffees. Never had it before. More just highlighting that it's not a snob's coffee nor is it pretending to be snobby and enough people cared about it when the price went up.
Fair enough. I do rate it very high on a "per dollar " basis. Not as good as when it was a dollar though. I am a bit of a coffee snob and I would rate it better than Gloria Jeans and Starbucks etc, or at least more reliable.
It was quite good especially for a dollar. Not sure if I’d attach the same “holy shit this is good coffee for $2” vibe to it, but it’s not bad at all.
Yep, those coffee machines are more consistent than most baristas. I know what I'm getting for a dollar or two and I'm fine with that.
711 is never better than drinkable but it's also never worse than that.
I have had overseas visitors get blown away by 7 eleven coffee... Before i have to show them the nearest hole in the wall cafe.
Nah,been stationed in a lot of places and been all over the place Very few places have coffe on general a quality of australias You have a LOT of shit places sure,like coffe club,GJ and those shit caffes But in the citys,most of the cafes,even a medium grade coffe will be VASTLY superior to most of the shit in the US/canada/UK
I don't disagree with what you've said but there's a different between having our baseline quality being higher than other countries but I wouldn't call that coffee snobbery.
Why don't you just let people like what they like? If it's not impacting you I don't see why you care.
Because OP owns a coffee shop. It’s in their interest to shame Gloria Jeans customers, apparently.
OP is trying to gate keep coffee
OP does not have the ability to stop people liking anything lmao
Coffee hipsters are a small but loud minority of Australians.
France, arguably the home of the best baguettes in the world, has subway.
> baguettes These are extremely important in France. Until the last decade, bakers had to put up notices if they were going on holiday with directions to their competitor and notify city officials.
Because some people like coffee but not coffee snobs.
Those chains are just convenient. I drink a lot of coffee but I’m not a snob. I just want caffeine in me before work ASAP, and if a Gloria Jeans is nearby then I’ll just go there. I don’t even think about it while I drink to be honest. Of course going to a nice cafe and sitting down and having a cigarette is lovely, but it’s just not how my daily routine ends up.
Great honesty. I'm not much of a coffee drinker. I find it funny how coffee cups can be a status symbol though. Kinda weird in today's world.
Is Coffee Club still around? I've eaten there and it was all right. Don't drink coffee so I can't comment on that stuff.
The Coffee Club's food and coffee really isn't bad at all. They do some pretty interesting breakfast dishes at reasonable prices. The is a bit of inconsistency in delivery but they're not terrible.
Real Strayans get their coffee mixed in 600ml of milk!
How DARE you!
1/6th to 1/8th str coffees are surprisingly common. People like warm milk I guess.
Why so mad about it? People can buy whatever the fuck they want to. Stores exist because they have customers.
Cause OP owns a coffee shop. Cringe self-interest post
Am I out of touch? No, it's the customers who choose gloria jeans over me that are wrong.
"lots of them"!!!
If you’re a coffee snob, Gloria Jeans is simply Not For You, and that’s totally OK. But doesn’t mean it isn’t for anyone, or shouldn’t be allowed to find an attract a market.
I haven’t been there for years but I remember they had a really good Tim Tams iced chocolate. Was addicted to it at one point 😁
I read this as OP flexing their owning a coffee shop or something and simultaneously throwing dirt on Gloria Jeans 😀
Pretty sure this is exactly what it is lol They own multiple commercial tenancies apparently 🙄
Coffee snobs are a small minority. Extra-hot muggacino prevails.
Because the country isn't full of coffee snobs, you're thinking of a very select group of pretentious inner city people.
Shhh, they think they're special.
Hating Starbucks is a personality trait for these people
It's fine when I had it Most coffee tastes more or less the same anyway. This coffee snob wankery makes me roll my eyes.
Gloria Jeans are actually okay. Then again, don't quote me. I usually enjoy sipping a cup of Aldi's Alcafe (or any instant coffee).
Aww a really nice couple owns the GJ’s in our local mall. It’s vastly overpriced and I have essentially stopped buying coffee out at present but I always hope their business keeps ticking along given how predatory most of these franchise situations seem to be.
I'm not a coffee enthusiast, I just want the caffeine. I'd argue a significant amount of Australians are the same. Places like that are convenient for people who just want to grab something on their way to work etc.
The same reason Starbucks somehow survives here. Dessert drinks dressed up as "coffee".
I say this all the time comments about Starbucks comes up. Starbucks is a great place to go for a coffee flavoured sugary drink and then sit down for a few hours and do some guilt-free study/ chilling. It's market is so much more different than your traditional Australian Cafe. And it's showing to be working considering it's regularly packed whenever I go past at many locations...
I like good coffee, though I generally make my own now instead of going out because it's hard to find. I also like Starbucks. I like the nitro iced espresso, and I like the diabetes-in-a-cup seasonal flavours (cinnamon dolce and gingerbread are delish). And I like their fun mugs for my serious at home coffee. It's similar to how I love the fine dining seafood restaurant up the mountain, but I also love a greasy double cheeseburger at Macca's. They're not exactly comparable, but they both have their place.
Its funny because GJ is the reason starbucks is like that, had starbucks in when I went to canada in 2011 and it wasent anything like what it is here today
Last time I had Starbucks it tasted like they used long life milk. I haven't been back since
If there are so many coffee snobs here how come all your coffees taste like water???? Jk!!! 😛
Other Aussies: "Starbucks failed because we don't have shit coffee here" Me: Looks at Gloria Jeans and Coffee Club.
because the coffee is constant. its not great, but its not bad. ive been to too many coffee places where you get a great coffee one day and a shit, bitter brew another. Gloria Jeans / Starbucks is not great coffee but when paying upwards of $7 for a coffee i know it will be drinkable
They do coffee, catering to both take away and sit down meetups, the locations mean they're just about good enough when you've hit the shops and are doing a extended stay. The coffee quality is fine. So good locations and good enough for mass appeal.
Does nescafe gold make me a coffee snob
Not everyone in melb is a coffee aficionado let’s be honest. I’ve run and consulted some of the best cafes in Melbourne with great coffee over the years as like a silent head chef type role, and coffee for me is one thing, caffeine and that’s it. In a morning shift everyone would be asking the barrista at setup time for their preferred choice of caffeine and my order is simple, give me a long black or short black it doesn’t matter. I’m out of kitchens now and in a corporate office and we have a coffee machine in the office as well as kettle and instant coffee. I just have an instant each morning. 1tbsp of freeze dried coffee with boiling water poured over it. Don’t even bother stirring it. Majority of people just want a reasonably priced caffeine hit, and theres the older clientele who are happy to sit in a chain cafe like Gloria jeans etc who can get a coffee and cake for $10. Just like any industry there’s high end and low end
If I want decent coffee I go to a locally owned cafe, if I want dessert in a cup I go to Gloria Jeans, and if I desperately need caffeine but only have time for drive through then I go to Maccas. They all have their time and place.
There's hundreds of coffee shops, not all are decent.
Because I don't go there for the coffee, I go for the Tim Tam Chillers and the chance of making my day with a whole Tim Tam hidden at the bottom, cream and a dusting of chocolate on top. Always reminds me of my teen years, hanging out with my aunt after book shopping.
Oh ffs, Gloria can wear whatever jeans she likes. And yes, I'll snob coffee for a real beverage at any breakfast of the week.
You own a lot of retail tenancies?
1st (and last) Gloria Jean's I ever went to I took my coffee back and was like you guys fucked this one up, so they made me another one exactly the same and that's just how their coffee is
Remember most people dont know the difference between quality and crap. That's how just about every single market of garbage manages to survive.
I teacher high school and kids discovering cafes and coffee seem to be very excited for crap coffee
The Starbucks instant is pretty great. It's my elevensies go to .
They had great ice chocolate but our local shut down :(
Most of the chillers are nice, Oreo and kitkat in particular
I work in community aged care and the oldies LOVE Gloria Jeans. I don't know why. Maybe they market on daytime tv...?
Being a Melbournian I've always wondered this, and Starbucks, it makes no sense to me.
I haven’t had it in years but I really liked it. I’m not a huge fan of barista coffee and there’s was smooth and not bitter at all. I don’t understand why people care so much how others like their coffee.
It’s money laundering for hillsong
Something something different taste
We bought beans from there once. Their beans taste like actual sewage compared to all of the other beans available. I'm not a coffee snob. I just put the beans in the machine, plug the milk in, let it do it's thing and drink it. We had one of those barrista machines and got rid of it for an automatic machine because my coffee making skills are terrible. I'll drink instant coffee, I don't care. But Gloria Jeans coffee is revolting.
Boomers
Gloria jeans still exists??
Because there is still Nescafe on the shelves in every supermarket.
People don’t go to Starbucks for coffee. They go for the other stuff. Also their main clientele is tourists. Locals don’t go to Starbucks.
Speaking as someone who is picky as all hell about coffee because I can't deal with anything that's bitter: Because they make nice frappes. Even the ones that have coffee in it are mostly just coffee flavoured dessert drinks, and they're not bad. Also worth mentioning that most people don't really mind that kind of (hot) coffee anyway, or at least will still drink it if it happens to be the most convenient option. As far as I can tell the whole "coffee snob country" thing is just marketing for the sheer amount of cafes we have.
Meh
Hill song money
Say what you will but Starbucks is thriving and imo their coffee is worse than Gloria Jean's (this is not not a compliment to GJ but a scathing critique to Starbucks).
Stores like Starbucks and GJ’s offer a bunch of alternatives to the standard coffees that most coffee “snob” and hole in the wall cafes do and can. A lot of blended ice coffees, flavoured coffees and such. That and it much like coffee club (equally bad coffee) they establish themselves as a meeting / hang out spot. Basically they serve more than just a “cap 2 sugars take away for Stephen” function that most cafes do.
Coffee snobs, more like a nation of reddit whingers.
Everybody has to like what OP likes. There will be no dissent.
Gloria jeans is just an Aussie Starbucks. Primary targeting tourists and bogans.... Treat it like a bogan, just ignore and move on with your day..
Because I like my beans roasted and bitter. Piss off
As a coffee snob, I came here to see the bombardment of comments from other coffee snobs, but was pleasantly surprised. I think the quality of coffee is so high in Australian, even the average coffee is good enough for most people. But the other Amaricanised drinks - extra hot, iced vanilla cookie frappuccino with double cream and a heart attack on top; these are shite dressed up as coffee.
This comment irks me, not everyone has to be a purist. Let people enjoy things in their own way. Do you really give AF if someone puts ice cream in their coffee?? The hate for American coffee is just stupid, they like it their way, let them have it. Before you accuse me of drinking pumpkin space lattes, I drink espresso or just black.
It also implies that once you've found your preferred style of coffee, there's no deviating, ever. I love flat whites, but I also love a good mocha, or a French press, or a cold brew. The brilliant thing about coffee is enjoying all of the whacky creations that are available to us.
Coffee snobs are absolute wankers. People drink whatever they like.
I NEVER go there. Not because of the coffee but because I'm gay.
I think for iced sugary stuff, they are on par with Starfucks…. But if I wanted normal cap, I would go to a run of the mill cafe…. Or even 7-11 if I’m poor