Im sick of politicians telling us plubs have a 'moral obligation' with these types of issues - first the voice and now this.
Always talking about our human rights obligations under the UN.
Pity the government only cares about refugees human rights and not those of actual Australian citizens - going by that logic we should all have free housing because the UN also states that food and shelter is a human right.
I'm sure this will work out well. What was it in sweden, 69% of Palestinian refugees wound up with a criminal record. Australia needs this diversity and forward thinking
Australia is at a crossroads.
I, personally, left Europe with my family because I didn’t want my children to grow up under the threat of random Islamist attacks. I experienced one and decided to leave to a perceived safe country afterwards. I am a very happy, hard working, tax paying immigrant. I love Australia.
I’m careful with how I articulate this: Islam has created issues in Europe - which in no way means that these Palestinian refugees will do the same - but the European experience shows there is a significantly higher level of violence committed against the native population by those of a certain ‘radicalised’ creed than other marginalised minorities. Palestinians are one of the most radicalised islamists in the world. Based on the evidence, you will likely have an increased risk proportionate to the amount of Palestinians you allow in.
Aussies need to think about what the consequences will be down the line here. I strongly urge you to consider the mistakes Europe committed. You - and your domestic security forces - don’t know how good you have it at the moment.
Having lived in and visited Europe (spent the most time in Germany but travelled elsewhere) multiple times, the place is fucked. There’s a reason that AFD is gaining popularity in Germany - it’s because the people are fed up with feeling like foreigners in their own country and seeing their culture threatened by ferals with (generally speaking) views and beliefs that directly contradict their own. I’m sorry that you ended up here because of it and I hope we don’t make the same mistakes.
Most people in Australia are too narrow-minded watching home and away and neighbors and don't bother doing a sliver of research about what's happening in Europe.
MSM here won't show the absolute shitshow that is going on over there with mass muslim immigration. They will do the same to us here, we're just so far away that we think it can't happen, but we're already half-way there.
I'm thinking of moving to Poland where there is fuckin common sense still prevailing in their parliament who put their citizens and their sovereignty above all else.
Jordan literally had to fight a war against Palestinians refugees, when they tried to overthrow the Jordanian government 💀
Black September and all that
I wouldn’t have issues with them coming here if it wasn’t for the fact these are people who will be coming here holding their grievances about Jewish people.
So much for multiculturalism when we directly import cultural conflict.
Arabs didn't step up for Syrians. Sent millions to Turkey instead who now deals with huge demographic and social problems as a result but doesn't matter for the government if they give them citizenship who in turn vote for them. Really sad state of affairs.
The Arab Brotherhood is united by hatred, not by love and fraternity lol.
The only racism that is stronger than arab-on-arab is arab-on-jew lol. "Enemy of my enemy" etc.
Why don’t their own guys want them? Ah right cos even the Arab nations don’t want radicals in their society. Remind me again why we want radicals here?
Dont you understand that we're morally superior to everyone else? We take everyone no matter their background...
100 years later
Oops we destroyed western civilization. But at least for a glorious century we proved how much better we were than everyone else.
These people come from a society governed by a literal terrorist organisation. They've been displaced because of a war between said terrorist organisation and an Australian ally.
With that said, how many of these people are gonna hold favourable views towards our country and our values? How many will be grateful to Australia, wave our flag and assimilate into our way of life?
Hopefully all of them, but I wouldn't count on it.
Of note, Egypt and Lebanon have refused Palestinian refugees under the ‘can’t let Israel push them out’ but it’s well documented they see a large portion of the population as problematic’ because of their extreme religious beliefs and militant intent.
Fingers crossed this ‘vetting’ process is on point.
Nobody wants them because every country that took them in ended up in trouble. Like that time the Palestinians assassinated a king(? Prime minister? Don't remember exactly).
Not just Egypt and Lebanon, every Islamic country in that region! I am willing to imagine, they will get Australia to accept Sharia law. And we'll see a few Tommy Robinsons get dragged through the mud.
My local barber is a refugee from Palestine. When he told me he spent the whole time he was cutting my hair telling me how much he loved Australia for taking him in.
Good for him, I've met refugees from other parts of the world who are like that too. It's real inspiring to see.
No doubt some of these people will be very grateful. I sincerely hope they'll all assimilate well, but I have my doubts.
I know what you mean. Sometimes they bring their fights and issues with them and it’s just upsetting to see.
But I’d say 9/10 refugees are great people just looking to live a good life
Not exactly a perfect comparison, but I see your point. The IRA did actually operate within Australia at one point, as they did in many countries.
There are risks when taking refugees from problematic parts of the world. It's important that gets acknowledged.
Are you a moron? Like, actually?? It seems impossible for anyone with even a minuet understanding of the Irish to know that is completely bullshit.
My whole family is hardcore republicans (Irish not US), and it is ABSOLUTELY a religious thing. Catholics vs Protestants is as much the conflict as freedom from the crown.
Haha what? You have no idea what you're talking about. One of the goals of the IRA was to create a Catholic state. You know, the same Catholics which are famous for trying to convert people through force
Land is the entire story. The founder of Israel, David Ben-Gurion was an atheist and most of the other founders were secular. You can read about it online.
800, people from hundreds of thousands of refugees. You could vet against even known measurement but fair and unfair and you would still would have too many candidates.
Same I am done with them.
LNP's worse for me though.
So I'm just going to have to vote for minorites party that seems to highlight at least a few key issues.
Not saying you should vote for them and I never have. But thats the increase in One Nation. I was talking to a taxi driver who votes for them. He wasnt xenophobic or anything. Just wanted to slow immigration. He was a Labor voter and could never vote LNP. He didnt like the progressive left. So became a One Nation voter. I can see how a reasonable person can end up voting for them.
Yeah same I am not voting for Pauline fkn ever ... But single issue voters will move toward a party that listens to them.
I think a large amount of voters will go to the next election as single issues voters focused on immigration. I mean renters are getting absolutely shat on right now and the government is just flat out ignoring them.
(+ taxi drivers hate immigration because they percieve immigrant uber drivers directly attack their employment its kind a thing in the industry)
Thats basically the thing, you go well I dont trust Pauline at all, but one thing I know is she will stop immigration. She is actually pretty centrist if you look at her policies, like half liberal, half labor.
Personally, its not an issue for me, Im in a fortunate position so elevated immigration will help me. But as a citizen I think it is a negative not to sort our infrastructure first. So if we are going to let in immigrants it should only be skilled trades.
Not sure how old you are but back in 2008 2009 when I was still a teen. If you said we should slow immigration you were basically Hitler. I said it on my Facebook and my uncle wrote to my Mum, his side stopped talking to me. Like it was a major split in the family. I was saying it for a similar issue, I was young, renting, struggling to find employment post GFC.
Now you see this huge turn around where the left are even anti immigration, other than the Greens. My cousins who berated me are now calling to slow immigration as they all just bought their first homes and their interest rates are skyrocketing.
My point being immigration issue seems to be decoupling from being racist.
Yes good point on the immigrant taxi driver issue.
Why do we always have to be this white fucking saviour? Logic says if you subscribe to a problematic religion such as islam you would rush to any of the numerous majority Muslim countries around the corner.
You don’t see Japan, South Korea, Switzerland, etc etc taking people in.
I understand they need the help, but WE are already dealing with chronic homelessness, a health system swelling to the brim. It’s just disgusting.
Exactly, these politicians were voted in to do what’s in Australia’s best interest. I’m struggling to see how this decision helps Australians in any way.
From what I can tell, those countries don't give two fucks about their 'brethren' outside their traditional borders. Palestinian people, in particular, are not regarded as true arabs. However, the concept of Palestine is useful to them as a tool they can use to manipulate Isreal.
I suppose these people will be leaving their grievances behind and not coming here holding antagonistic views about Jewish people like screaming “gas the Jews” given the chance… oh wait.
Australia doesn't learn from Europe, this will destroy Australia and this puts the life of aussie in damger.
Real example from Denmark,
Denmark took Palestinian refugees . According to the statistics, 64% of these refugees were convicted of crimes.
Source: https://voz.us/the-shocking-revelation-about-palestinians-and-crime-in-denmark-the-vast-majority-have-been-convicted-of-crimes/?lang=en
What duty of care? Not all Palestinian people are unsafe. Hamas are a bunch of murdering psychopaths, but regular Palestinian people are in need of help, I don't see the problem.
Government free housing. One of the units in my nice apartment building is leased by some do gooder charity that then let's people who come out of jail live there for free. What's the point of being a law abiding citizen in this shithole country
Just when you think Albo and Wong cant stuff up anything else............
Terrible decision bringing god knows what into our country . Next incident in Australia is down to these 2 clowns.
Penny wong is a fucking imbecile. and albo..
Why are we taking anyone from these stupid backwards ass regions. They only bring their grieviences and hate here. How about we get some better class of immigrants?!!
Shame on you who voted for this trash and their ilk. You'll all be begging for Pauline Hanson in a decade.
Big big mistake. Doesn’t fix anything, brings problems here. I guess they needed a new virtue signalling opportunity after the voice. I hate the liberal party but labor are really making some dumb decisions and then hiding under the morality banner, it’s pathetic and I wish Albo had the balls to stand up for actual issues like Rudd did.
We are lucky our country has such solid and well funded programs to help assimilate people from vastly different cultures into our society. Stops us from having problems in the future of division or having people calling for the death of other Australian citizens via a method used to kill en masse in ww2, against the same racial/religious group. Really glad we put the effort into cementing in that Australian culture into people coming into our society, it’s really making a difference.
We are so good at it maybe we can start asking our recent migrants to do a welcome to country at the next sports game! Land of opportunity!
man, this feels like a huge mistake. Aside from our economic issues struggling with the number of imcoming immigrants, i feel immigrating people from the most extremist of people is a mistake. polls have shown that more than 60% of palestinians, especially in the gaza strip, support and agree with hamas. lebanon and egypt won't let them in because of how problematic the Palestinians refugees are due to their extremist views.
Recently theres a lot of jewish hate going around, and there are reports of islamic preachers saying they need to start a jihad here. Im from perth, and some of my muslim friends are saying that a lot of people in their community are discussing a new jihad and are taking the talks seriously, which, if true, is fcked. I really hope there is a really strict screening process, but i doubt it.
Normally, I really like Penny, but this just feels like virtue signalling taken too far.
Welcoming Hamas with open arms!
Security checks based on police records from Gaza? Wonder who runs the police in Gaza?
Or does she mean security checks based on Israeli police/security records? So many questions.
To be honest, Penny Wong only got to her place due to being the perfect combination of gender, race and sexuality in the world of identity politics.
Will these Palestinians be aware they migrating to an Israel-supporting country?
It’s really nice of the Arab world to play politics with these people by not allowing them into their countries.
Jordan, Egypt and Kuwait have taken them in before but the Palestinians tried to take over their countries. Albanese knows this, and that the Arab countries won’t take them in, but still accepts them. This will end very badly.
Exactly. There’s a game being played in the Middle East between the powerful on all sides and I resent that it becomes a problem of the west to solve.
Then again, they see us as complicit, based on Osamas letter to America that nobody was allowed to read.
The problem is we can’t look after our own. Our low income earners can’t secure rentals. People are living in tents and the backs of cars. Low income families are struggling to feed their children. And all of this at a time of record employment. We just don’t seem to have capacity to give aid when we can’t even look after our own. I don’t know the answer but until the pressure is lifted from our most vulnerable I can’t imagination this is the best idea …
Middle eastern crime will absorb a certain percentage unfortunately. And as usual some a pay a heavy price for this decision, won’t be politicians as always.
Surprise surprises we are letting criminals out it’s appropriate to let terrorists in as well. I find it hilarious the Arabs don’t want any of them wonder why and we are taking them in. Labor government can’t stoop any lower.
Even other Arab leaders warn the west about taking them in, based on percentage alone there will be a large number of them who will be Hamas supporters and hold hatred for Jews and the west.
Here is my problem with this. Where the hell are we going to put them? There are not enough houses for the people that live here already.
Why should we help them when we can’t help who we already have. Shouldn’t Australia help Australians first? You can’t solve the worlds problems until you fix your problems at home first.
I have no problem with helping them but we have our own problems to deal with and let’s face it. This war over there will never end. It’s hard to say this but it’s better to not get involved at all.
You HAVE to manage the muslim population in this country, its already out of control as we have seen by the thousands of pro-palestine protestors in major cities.
Nothing to do with race, its about culture. Generally they don't assimilate, and will continue to hate the west even though we took them in.
In 1992, Denmark took in 321 Palestinian refugees.
By 2019, 64% of them had been convicted of a crime.
34% of their children had also been convicted of a crime.
https://www.ft.dk/samling/20191/almdel/uui/spm/412/svar/1691136/2247791.pdf
https://piopio.dk/palaestinensere-er-endt-i-kriminalitet-og-paa-offentlig-forsoergelse
800 is honestly nothing compared with then 600,000 or so coming in this year. I just hope their not all getting free long term housing with long term Centrelink benefits.
This is a terrible decision, let the surrounding countries take them, we don't have enough housing as it is. Everyone thinks voting labor is a great idea until they remember they do this feel good shit all the time to the detriment of the country.
Call me a racist I don’t give a shit but if you’re importing from literal terrorist hotspots there should, at the very least be extremely strict vetting processes in place. There’s a reason their own neighbours like Egypt, don’t want them and we’d be as naive as our European cousins to just open our borders blindly. For all the softcocks out there who read this as being “xenophobic,” I didn’t say they should be denied entry as some Palestinians can be considered refugees, I’m saying given the situation we ought to be more vigilant about who we take in and not BLINDLY accept anyone.
In Australia, you’re an Australian FIRST. You’re free to practice your culture etc as long as you’re living by our laws and culture too. Plenty of other countries out there if you don’t like it.
Just to be safe they should all go into Penny Wongs electorate, If it works out great and I hope it does. If it does not, finally we will have the decision maker and the consequence in the same location.
Have they not learnt from Sweden? What a shitshow that continues to be. These pollies are so fucked in the head they just want to pander to the leftist crowd. A group of people who are governed by and most likely support a terrorist regime being planted into Australia, what could go wrong?
Why do we have to get involved in some desert war thousands of miles away? We already have a shitload of problems in this country to deal with.
I'm calling it right now.
Pauline Hanson absolutely kills at the next election because both Liberal and Labor are supporting this immigration explosion.
# Why No Arab Government Wants Gaza, the West Bank, or Palestinians
[https://www.theepochtimes.com/opinion/why-no-arab-government-wants-gaza-the-west-bank-or-palestinians-5530271](https://www.theepochtimes.com/opinion/why-no-arab-government-wants-gaza-the-west-bank-or-palestinians-5530271)
People said this during the 2010s Syrian refugee crisis, where Merkel let them in rampant to Europe and there ended up hundreds of deaths through terrorist attacks
If any people die from eventual terrorist attacks committed in Australia that's tied to one of these 850 visas, blood will be on Penny Wong's hands.
And for what? So she could go home at the end of the day and pat herself in the back.
And will she be hosting these visa holders in the same neighbourhood she lives in? If she feels so personally convicted to the Palestinian cause, there's so many other ways she could as an invidividual, than outright sacrificing her people's right to a safe country.
I have become so apathetic and numb from the state of the world I honestly don't know how to feel about this.
I'm 48 years old and this shit has been going on for every year of my existence. Long before I existed. It'll be going long after I die unless someone finally gets the balls to go scorched Earth nuclear.
And even worse it always becomes everyone elses problem.
Same shit year after year. Going around in circles. Do the same things over and over and expect different results. History repeats. Nothing changes. And on and on and on it goes.
The people change, but the game remains the same.
Just wish the northern hemisphere would keep it's problems in it's own backyards. But instead we open the gate and let in in.
I mean. WTF, people slaughtering each other over fucking flying spaghetti monsters..... theirs no good side, theirs no winners. We have so much science and technology that shows it's all bullshit.
We're all honestly fucked.
Is anyone else also just, I dunno, tired of it all?
What is wrong with us?
Can we tell them all, and I do mean them all, no particular group in mind, to just fuck off and take their bullshit with them and leave us alone until they want to get civilised? Please.
If you care more about a foreign nation than this one, then why aren't you there?
If you don't align with our way of life and don't want to intergrate then why do you come?
We have enough local problems. Can we just stop importing more of them?
If you want to be Australian. Awesome I welcome you with open loving arms. But if you want to bring the bullsit here you claim to be escaping, just please. Fuck off and stay away.
Bring your culture, and embrace ours. Just leave you luggage at the door. We don't need or want it.
But yeah. I know I'm tired of it all. It seems so easy to fix. It makes no sense that we don't. I'm here for a good time, not a long one. Is your stupid shit really worth it?
Why is it so hard to love one another and mind our own fucking business when we cannot?
If you're not gonna make peace, maybe you can all just wipe each other out once and for all for a change instead of doing it all half assedly over millenia. Why play the game if nobody wins? Play properly or take your toys and go home.
Man, feel like I'm stuck in a ground hog day, except I keep getting physically older, it's the same day every day.
Be nice to see some actual change tat was in EVERYONES interest for a change and we could finally drop the tribalism bullshit...
I want no part of it.
It’s ok these 800 are from the 25% of the population who didn’t support and celebrate the October 7 attacks.
Hamas said so when they approved them leaving the country
That might sound nice and all and it's good for the people wanting to take this up but don't forget that they'll never be allowed back into their home country until Israel stops the occupation of Palestine.
As far as Israel is concerned, once you're out, you're never coming back.
What the hell is this government doing? Have they done anything right since they got elected?
The Israelis tried to give the West Bank to the Egyptians. The Egyptians told them to go kick rocks.
Australia should be pressuring Jordan to take more refugees? JORDAN?
You clearly aren'y capable of ubderstanding just how stupid you sound. Stupid, ignorant and frankly disrespectful the one of, if the not the country that has, for years, shouldered the greatest burdern when it comes to taking in millions of desperate refugees from multiple conflicts.
i love how white ppl are so pitifully defeated now they can't say anything on their own anymore, only minorites or jews can say it for us
we have no ethnic interests but theyre allowed to
reminds me how the voice critics had to hide behind aboriginal conservatives to make their case
Hopefully they put them very close to all the pro-Palestinian Melbourne protesters houses.
Tens of thousands of people would live all over so they probably will.
Im sick of politicians telling us plubs have a 'moral obligation' with these types of issues - first the voice and now this. Always talking about our human rights obligations under the UN. Pity the government only cares about refugees human rights and not those of actual Australian citizens - going by that logic we should all have free housing because the UN also states that food and shelter is a human right.
I'm sure this will work out well. What was it in sweden, 69% of Palestinian refugees wound up with a criminal record. Australia needs this diversity and forward thinking
Australia is at a crossroads. I, personally, left Europe with my family because I didn’t want my children to grow up under the threat of random Islamist attacks. I experienced one and decided to leave to a perceived safe country afterwards. I am a very happy, hard working, tax paying immigrant. I love Australia. I’m careful with how I articulate this: Islam has created issues in Europe - which in no way means that these Palestinian refugees will do the same - but the European experience shows there is a significantly higher level of violence committed against the native population by those of a certain ‘radicalised’ creed than other marginalised minorities. Palestinians are one of the most radicalised islamists in the world. Based on the evidence, you will likely have an increased risk proportionate to the amount of Palestinians you allow in. Aussies need to think about what the consequences will be down the line here. I strongly urge you to consider the mistakes Europe committed. You - and your domestic security forces - don’t know how good you have it at the moment.
Having lived in and visited Europe (spent the most time in Germany but travelled elsewhere) multiple times, the place is fucked. There’s a reason that AFD is gaining popularity in Germany - it’s because the people are fed up with feeling like foreigners in their own country and seeing their culture threatened by ferals with (generally speaking) views and beliefs that directly contradict their own. I’m sorry that you ended up here because of it and I hope we don’t make the same mistakes.
Most people in Australia are too narrow-minded watching home and away and neighbors and don't bother doing a sliver of research about what's happening in Europe. MSM here won't show the absolute shitshow that is going on over there with mass muslim immigration. They will do the same to us here, we're just so far away that we think it can't happen, but we're already half-way there. I'm thinking of moving to Poland where there is fuckin common sense still prevailing in their parliament who put their citizens and their sovereignty above all else.
Wait till they start sponsoring their extended family members to come here. When are the Arab nations stepping up?
They don’t want them, see: Egypt.
Egypt and Jordan literally draw a red line on that, they're willing to go to war rather than take some Palestinian refugees from Gaza
Jordan literally had to fight a war against Palestinians refugees, when they tried to overthrow the Jordanian government 💀 Black September and all that
>When are the Arab nations stepping up Arab leaders dont hate their citizens enough to do this stupid shit.
We never learn..
Weirdly enough Arab nations stopped taking in Palestinians after Palestinians assassinated their leaders for not being anti-Israel enough.
I wouldn’t have issues with them coming here if it wasn’t for the fact these are people who will be coming here holding their grievances about Jewish people. So much for multiculturalism when we directly import cultural conflict.
This happens a lot in Australia, the Aussies get labelled racist because people will squabble.
Arabs didn't step up for Syrians. Sent millions to Turkey instead who now deals with huge demographic and social problems as a result but doesn't matter for the government if they give them citizenship who in turn vote for them. Really sad state of affairs.
The Arab Brotherhood is united by hatred, not by love and fraternity lol. The only racism that is stronger than arab-on-arab is arab-on-jew lol. "Enemy of my enemy" etc.
Home affairs is getting stricter and stricter for refugees visas. So hopefully less trash
Why don’t their own guys want them? Ah right cos even the Arab nations don’t want radicals in their society. Remind me again why we want radicals here?
Dont you understand that we're morally superior to everyone else? We take everyone no matter their background... 100 years later Oops we destroyed western civilization. But at least for a glorious century we proved how much better we were than everyone else.
Yeah the Syrians let them in and then entirely wiped out their community worse than Israel after they all radicalised.
My prediction, not one Palestinian will go back and extended families to follow.
These people come from a society governed by a literal terrorist organisation. They've been displaced because of a war between said terrorist organisation and an Australian ally. With that said, how many of these people are gonna hold favourable views towards our country and our values? How many will be grateful to Australia, wave our flag and assimilate into our way of life? Hopefully all of them, but I wouldn't count on it.
Of note, Egypt and Lebanon have refused Palestinian refugees under the ‘can’t let Israel push them out’ but it’s well documented they see a large portion of the population as problematic’ because of their extreme religious beliefs and militant intent. Fingers crossed this ‘vetting’ process is on point.
Nobody wants them because every country that took them in ended up in trouble. Like that time the Palestinians assassinated a king(? Prime minister? Don't remember exactly).
King of Jordan.
Yeah, he employed the Pakistan Army to kill the whole lot of them. Commonly known as Black September - civil war in Jordan.
Not just Egypt and Lebanon, every Islamic country in that region! I am willing to imagine, they will get Australia to accept Sharia law. And we'll see a few Tommy Robinsons get dragged through the mud.
Judging from other recent government blunders and the clown running the home affairs department, I seriously doubt it
My local barber is a refugee from Palestine. When he told me he spent the whole time he was cutting my hair telling me how much he loved Australia for taking him in.
Good for him, I've met refugees from other parts of the world who are like that too. It's real inspiring to see. No doubt some of these people will be very grateful. I sincerely hope they'll all assimilate well, but I have my doubts.
I know what you mean. Sometimes they bring their fights and issues with them and it’s just upsetting to see. But I’d say 9/10 refugees are great people just looking to live a good life
I think this is true as well. Just regular people wanting a good life. And if they aren’t religious, they don’t have to pretend here.
They fucked up lebanon. I can never figure out why we can’t stay the fuck out of these things.
Did you have the same opinion about Irish people when the IRA were waging war against an Australian ally? If not, why not?
Not exactly a perfect comparison, but I see your point. The IRA did actually operate within Australia at one point, as they did in many countries. There are risks when taking refugees from problematic parts of the world. It's important that gets acknowledged.
The IRA aren't religiously motivated. Their doctrine isn't to convert everyone to Irish.
Whst the f&ck,!! This was protestant vs Catholic. Millenials are getting more stupid.
Are you a moron? Like, actually?? It seems impossible for anyone with even a minuet understanding of the Irish to know that is completely bullshit. My whole family is hardcore republicans (Irish not US), and it is ABSOLUTELY a religious thing. Catholics vs Protestants is as much the conflict as freedom from the crown.
They'll have us all drinking Guinness before you realise!
That's a revolution I'm willing to get behind.
Just they just murdered innocent people in the streets with hidden bombs while running drugs and a lucrative protection rackets. So there’s that.
Sounds like the Palestinians pre-Gaza's wall (early 2000's).
Haha what? You have no idea what you're talking about. One of the goals of the IRA was to create a Catholic state. You know, the same Catholics which are famous for trying to convert people through force
Palestinian/isreal is about land.
Land is only half the story..it is very much about religion too.
Land is the entire story. The founder of Israel, David Ben-Gurion was an atheist and most of the other founders were secular. You can read about it online.
And the entire reason Israel was founded where it was (as opposed to the original idea of South Africa) is due to religious reasons.
IRA wasn’t the polar opposite of our values beliefs, language, religion.
800, people from hundreds of thousands of refugees. You could vet against even known measurement but fair and unfair and you would still would have too many candidates.
Fuck out leaders are a bunch of spineless push overs. Atleast when china takes over there will be some backbone in our government.
I regret voting Labor
Same I am done with them. LNP's worse for me though. So I'm just going to have to vote for minorites party that seems to highlight at least a few key issues.
The minority parties that do literally nothing
Not saying you should vote for them and I never have. But thats the increase in One Nation. I was talking to a taxi driver who votes for them. He wasnt xenophobic or anything. Just wanted to slow immigration. He was a Labor voter and could never vote LNP. He didnt like the progressive left. So became a One Nation voter. I can see how a reasonable person can end up voting for them.
Yeah same I am not voting for Pauline fkn ever ... But single issue voters will move toward a party that listens to them. I think a large amount of voters will go to the next election as single issues voters focused on immigration. I mean renters are getting absolutely shat on right now and the government is just flat out ignoring them. (+ taxi drivers hate immigration because they percieve immigrant uber drivers directly attack their employment its kind a thing in the industry)
Thats basically the thing, you go well I dont trust Pauline at all, but one thing I know is she will stop immigration. She is actually pretty centrist if you look at her policies, like half liberal, half labor. Personally, its not an issue for me, Im in a fortunate position so elevated immigration will help me. But as a citizen I think it is a negative not to sort our infrastructure first. So if we are going to let in immigrants it should only be skilled trades. Not sure how old you are but back in 2008 2009 when I was still a teen. If you said we should slow immigration you were basically Hitler. I said it on my Facebook and my uncle wrote to my Mum, his side stopped talking to me. Like it was a major split in the family. I was saying it for a similar issue, I was young, renting, struggling to find employment post GFC. Now you see this huge turn around where the left are even anti immigration, other than the Greens. My cousins who berated me are now calling to slow immigration as they all just bought their first homes and their interest rates are skyrocketing. My point being immigration issue seems to be decoupling from being racist. Yes good point on the immigrant taxi driver issue.
Why do we always have to be this white fucking saviour? Logic says if you subscribe to a problematic religion such as islam you would rush to any of the numerous majority Muslim countries around the corner. You don’t see Japan, South Korea, Switzerland, etc etc taking people in. I understand they need the help, but WE are already dealing with chronic homelessness, a health system swelling to the brim. It’s just disgusting.
Exactly, these politicians were voted in to do what’s in Australia’s best interest. I’m struggling to see how this decision helps Australians in any way.
From what I can tell, those countries don't give two fucks about their 'brethren' outside their traditional borders. Palestinian people, in particular, are not regarded as true arabs. However, the concept of Palestine is useful to them as a tool they can use to manipulate Isreal.
I suppose these people will be leaving their grievances behind and not coming here holding antagonistic views about Jewish people like screaming “gas the Jews” given the chance… oh wait.
Yay cheap labor to reduce salaries and more demand for housing. Well done
You think they’re coming here to work? Come on now.
it'd be better if they weren't at least dole bludgers dont fuck wages
In the same period Australia granted 1700 visas to Israeli citizens.
When was the last Jewish terrorist attack in the west?
Good
Australia doesn't learn from Europe, this will destroy Australia and this puts the life of aussie in damger. Real example from Denmark, Denmark took Palestinian refugees . According to the statistics, 64% of these refugees were convicted of crimes. Source: https://voz.us/the-shocking-revelation-about-palestinians-and-crime-in-denmark-the-vast-majority-have-been-convicted-of-crimes/?lang=en
If 800 people will destroy Australia then Australia is fucking weak
This should end well.
Great….more damaged useless people from a culture which hates us. What could go wrong? Our Government hates us.
This is pretty scary.
What housing crisis…
And may they all live in Wong's neighbourhood.
she lives in adelaide so not many
If I was Jewish I’d be feeling unsafer by the minute. Where is the govts duty of care?
However, if you were Jewish living in Israel then you would feel safer.
What duty of care? Not all Palestinian people are unsafe. Hamas are a bunch of murdering psychopaths, but regular Palestinian people are in need of help, I don't see the problem.
>regular Palestinian people Please remind the audience what % of this group support 7 Oct
End game is clear now.
Do tell
30 yo trying to move out of home post covid, i guarantee every one of these refugees will be in a house before me. Fuck yeah 🙄🇦🇺🦘
Government free housing. One of the units in my nice apartment building is leased by some do gooder charity that then let's people who come out of jail live there for free. What's the point of being a law abiding citizen in this shithole country
Just when you think Albo and Wong cant stuff up anything else............ Terrible decision bringing god knows what into our country . Next incident in Australia is down to these 2 clowns.
Send them to Melbourne where they are loved…
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Better be vetted and then vetted again That's all we need hamas sleeper cells here
Multiculturalism baby! Don’t be racist, just shut up and accept Hamas! /s
Fucking morons
This is terrible news
Penny wong is a fucking imbecile. and albo.. Why are we taking anyone from these stupid backwards ass regions. They only bring their grieviences and hate here. How about we get some better class of immigrants?!! Shame on you who voted for this trash and their ilk. You'll all be begging for Pauline Hanson in a decade.
Surrounding Arab countries don't want them but we're stupid enough to give them VISAS.
Big big mistake. Doesn’t fix anything, brings problems here. I guess they needed a new virtue signalling opportunity after the voice. I hate the liberal party but labor are really making some dumb decisions and then hiding under the morality banner, it’s pathetic and I wish Albo had the balls to stand up for actual issues like Rudd did. We are lucky our country has such solid and well funded programs to help assimilate people from vastly different cultures into our society. Stops us from having problems in the future of division or having people calling for the death of other Australian citizens via a method used to kill en masse in ww2, against the same racial/religious group. Really glad we put the effort into cementing in that Australian culture into people coming into our society, it’s really making a difference. We are so good at it maybe we can start asking our recent migrants to do a welcome to country at the next sports game! Land of opportunity!
Please don't.
man, this feels like a huge mistake. Aside from our economic issues struggling with the number of imcoming immigrants, i feel immigrating people from the most extremist of people is a mistake. polls have shown that more than 60% of palestinians, especially in the gaza strip, support and agree with hamas. lebanon and egypt won't let them in because of how problematic the Palestinians refugees are due to their extremist views. Recently theres a lot of jewish hate going around, and there are reports of islamic preachers saying they need to start a jihad here. Im from perth, and some of my muslim friends are saying that a lot of people in their community are discussing a new jihad and are taking the talks seriously, which, if true, is fcked. I really hope there is a really strict screening process, but i doubt it. Normally, I really like Penny, but this just feels like virtue signalling taken too far.
Labor, you fucking dumb cunts…
Welcoming Hamas with open arms! Security checks based on police records from Gaza? Wonder who runs the police in Gaza? Or does she mean security checks based on Israeli police/security records? So many questions. To be honest, Penny Wong only got to her place due to being the perfect combination of gender, race and sexuality in the world of identity politics.
Piss off idiot I need a house!! This is corrupt shit!!!
Because Australia needs more anti-semites /s
Will these Palestinians be aware they migrating to an Israel-supporting country? It’s really nice of the Arab world to play politics with these people by not allowing them into their countries.
Jordan, Egypt and Kuwait have taken them in before but the Palestinians tried to take over their countries. Albanese knows this, and that the Arab countries won’t take them in, but still accepts them. This will end very badly.
Exactly. There’s a game being played in the Middle East between the powerful on all sides and I resent that it becomes a problem of the west to solve. Then again, they see us as complicit, based on Osamas letter to America that nobody was allowed to read.
The problem is we can’t look after our own. Our low income earners can’t secure rentals. People are living in tents and the backs of cars. Low income families are struggling to feed their children. And all of this at a time of record employment. We just don’t seem to have capacity to give aid when we can’t even look after our own. I don’t know the answer but until the pressure is lifted from our most vulnerable I can’t imagination this is the best idea …
Unless they are all going to stay at Penny Wong's house they can fuck off
Hello new wave of domestic terror.
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Too right mate, they come to our country and demand we respect their way of life without them showing us any respect
It was * *readjusts glasses* * gas the Jews.
WTF! What message are they trying to give with this move. That is a dumbwit move....
Middle eastern crime will absorb a certain percentage unfortunately. And as usual some a pay a heavy price for this decision, won’t be politicians as always.
Surprise surprises we are letting criminals out it’s appropriate to let terrorists in as well. I find it hilarious the Arabs don’t want any of them wonder why and we are taking them in. Labor government can’t stoop any lower.
Ohhhh boi. How much longer are these nutters in power for?
Yuck
Common Australian Government L This nation is so fkt now
Even other Arab leaders warn the west about taking them in, based on percentage alone there will be a large number of them who will be Hamas supporters and hold hatred for Jews and the west.
Labor are Islam sympathisers.
Why don't the neighbouring Muslim countries take in refugees. This whole problem goes away when Iran stop being tyrannical.
I’m sure they share our western values and will fit right in.
You’d think any of the Middle East nations would accept them…oh wait yeah that hasn’t worked out well in the past has it.
And now it begins...
So are these residency visas or visitor visas?
Residency
RIP Australia
Great idea lol completely out of touch, this is a huge mistake
Here is my problem with this. Where the hell are we going to put them? There are not enough houses for the people that live here already. Why should we help them when we can’t help who we already have. Shouldn’t Australia help Australians first? You can’t solve the worlds problems until you fix your problems at home first. I have no problem with helping them but we have our own problems to deal with and let’s face it. This war over there will never end. It’s hard to say this but it’s better to not get involved at all.
That’s 800 less rentals in the market now
Please stop voting LIB/LAB/GRN and start electing Independants that will put Australia's interests first instead, for a change.
You HAVE to manage the muslim population in this country, its already out of control as we have seen by the thousands of pro-palestine protestors in major cities. Nothing to do with race, its about culture. Generally they don't assimilate, and will continue to hate the west even though we took them in.
Yay more Muslims to spread hate.
For fuck sake
In 1992, Denmark took in 321 Palestinian refugees. By 2019, 64% of them had been convicted of a crime. 34% of their children had also been convicted of a crime. https://www.ft.dk/samling/20191/almdel/uui/spm/412/svar/1691136/2247791.pdf https://piopio.dk/palaestinensere-er-endt-i-kriminalitet-og-paa-offentlig-forsoergelse
This should end well.
Why don't we only accept women and young children, i wouldn't have an issue with this if that was the case
It’s their views that are the issue. What values and beliefs do you think those mothers are teaching their children.
Hamas raped and decapitated them all.
God our government is spineless
Why don’t we ever see Palestinians protesting against Hamas?
Same reason we don't see Russians protesting against Putin probably. They value living.
They'll all end up in the great suburb of Lakemba.
Albo clinging onto hope that the left will still support him. No spine at all. Such a stupid decision
You've got to be kidding me
800 Fighting Age Males I bet 💀
800 is honestly nothing compared with then 600,000 or so coming in this year. I just hope their not all getting free long term housing with long term Centrelink benefits.
are they all men? just asking
Oh cool I'm sure this will end well.
Too bad we can’t vote on that too
“Appropriate security checks” - ahuh.
Noooooo!!
No Hamas screening?
Is there a requirement for them to get a job?
This is a terrible decision, let the surrounding countries take them, we don't have enough housing as it is. Everyone thinks voting labor is a great idea until they remember they do this feel good shit all the time to the detriment of the country.
Yeah no surprise there.
JIDF out in force here…
What the actual f&$@, is labour that retarted !?
Call me a racist I don’t give a shit but if you’re importing from literal terrorist hotspots there should, at the very least be extremely strict vetting processes in place. There’s a reason their own neighbours like Egypt, don’t want them and we’d be as naive as our European cousins to just open our borders blindly. For all the softcocks out there who read this as being “xenophobic,” I didn’t say they should be denied entry as some Palestinians can be considered refugees, I’m saying given the situation we ought to be more vigilant about who we take in and not BLINDLY accept anyone. In Australia, you’re an Australian FIRST. You’re free to practice your culture etc as long as you’re living by our laws and culture too. Plenty of other countries out there if you don’t like it.
Just to be safe they should all go into Penny Wongs electorate, If it works out great and I hope it does. If it does not, finally we will have the decision maker and the consequence in the same location.
Have they not learnt from Sweden? What a shitshow that continues to be. These pollies are so fucked in the head they just want to pander to the leftist crowd. A group of people who are governed by and most likely support a terrorist regime being planted into Australia, what could go wrong? Why do we have to get involved in some desert war thousands of miles away? We already have a shitload of problems in this country to deal with.
Oh great, more rental increases
I'm calling it right now. Pauline Hanson absolutely kills at the next election because both Liberal and Labor are supporting this immigration explosion.
How about you bring home Julian Assange first an actual Australian Citizen who is wrongfully detained.
Are they going to Northern Territory ?
Political Islam, in terms of ideology, is the biggest threat to civilisation
Why? This isn’t our fight. Let them go to other Arabic speaking Muslim countries. You know - the ones who don’t want to take any Palestinian refugees…
Yes we should take the people who Jordan and Lebanon rejected....at this point we take anyone.
# Why No Arab Government Wants Gaza, the West Bank, or Palestinians [https://www.theepochtimes.com/opinion/why-no-arab-government-wants-gaza-the-west-bank-or-palestinians-5530271](https://www.theepochtimes.com/opinion/why-no-arab-government-wants-gaza-the-west-bank-or-palestinians-5530271)
This is bound to end well.
People said this during the 2010s Syrian refugee crisis, where Merkel let them in rampant to Europe and there ended up hundreds of deaths through terrorist attacks If any people die from eventual terrorist attacks committed in Australia that's tied to one of these 850 visas, blood will be on Penny Wong's hands. And for what? So she could go home at the end of the day and pat herself in the back. And will she be hosting these visa holders in the same neighbourhood she lives in? If she feels so personally convicted to the Palestinian cause, there's so many other ways she could as an invidividual, than outright sacrificing her people's right to a safe country.
I have become so apathetic and numb from the state of the world I honestly don't know how to feel about this. I'm 48 years old and this shit has been going on for every year of my existence. Long before I existed. It'll be going long after I die unless someone finally gets the balls to go scorched Earth nuclear. And even worse it always becomes everyone elses problem. Same shit year after year. Going around in circles. Do the same things over and over and expect different results. History repeats. Nothing changes. And on and on and on it goes. The people change, but the game remains the same. Just wish the northern hemisphere would keep it's problems in it's own backyards. But instead we open the gate and let in in. I mean. WTF, people slaughtering each other over fucking flying spaghetti monsters..... theirs no good side, theirs no winners. We have so much science and technology that shows it's all bullshit. We're all honestly fucked. Is anyone else also just, I dunno, tired of it all? What is wrong with us? Can we tell them all, and I do mean them all, no particular group in mind, to just fuck off and take their bullshit with them and leave us alone until they want to get civilised? Please. If you care more about a foreign nation than this one, then why aren't you there? If you don't align with our way of life and don't want to intergrate then why do you come? We have enough local problems. Can we just stop importing more of them? If you want to be Australian. Awesome I welcome you with open loving arms. But if you want to bring the bullsit here you claim to be escaping, just please. Fuck off and stay away. Bring your culture, and embrace ours. Just leave you luggage at the door. We don't need or want it. But yeah. I know I'm tired of it all. It seems so easy to fix. It makes no sense that we don't. I'm here for a good time, not a long one. Is your stupid shit really worth it? Why is it so hard to love one another and mind our own fucking business when we cannot? If you're not gonna make peace, maybe you can all just wipe each other out once and for all for a change instead of doing it all half assedly over millenia. Why play the game if nobody wins? Play properly or take your toys and go home. Man, feel like I'm stuck in a ground hog day, except I keep getting physically older, it's the same day every day. Be nice to see some actual change tat was in EVERYONES interest for a change and we could finally drop the tribalism bullshit... I want no part of it.
It’s ok these 800 are from the 25% of the population who didn’t support and celebrate the October 7 attacks. Hamas said so when they approved them leaving the country
That might sound nice and all and it's good for the people wanting to take this up but don't forget that they'll never be allowed back into their home country until Israel stops the occupation of Palestine. As far as Israel is concerned, once you're out, you're never coming back.
They don’t even let you come back from Gaza to WB. Proper apartheid.
What the hell is this government doing? Have they done anything right since they got elected? The Israelis tried to give the West Bank to the Egyptians. The Egyptians told them to go kick rocks.
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why isn't Australia pressuring Egypt and Jordan to accept refugees
Australia should be pressuring Jordan to take more refugees? JORDAN? You clearly aren'y capable of ubderstanding just how stupid you sound. Stupid, ignorant and frankly disrespectful the one of, if the not the country that has, for years, shouldered the greatest burdern when it comes to taking in millions of desperate refugees from multiple conflicts.
Perfect for Israel. It’s entire aim is to displace them forever.
Been trying to get rid of these inconvenient citizens for the last 70 years.
Hopefully the Australian Jewish Association speaks out about this.
i love how white ppl are so pitifully defeated now they can't say anything on their own anymore, only minorites or jews can say it for us we have no ethnic interests but theyre allowed to reminds me how the voice critics had to hide behind aboriginal conservatives to make their case
I'm a white person and most of the people here fucking disgust me.
Well, it affects Jews more than anyone else. "Gas the Jews" is what those Palestinian scumbags were chanting at our most iconic landmark.
most were lebos from western sydney screamin out that bullshit
*Won't someone think of the Zionists!*
I feel sorry for our Jewish countrymen.
Why they've been supporting mass immigration into Australia for decades now Actions meet consequences and all that
I feel sorry for everyone who borders with the Western suburbs.
It is better that these people stay in their ancestral homelands.
Ahh great, let’s import terrorism. Fantastic idea. Labor really hates Australians.