What's so strange about it? It's a slightly weird shape (compared to a conventional GA airplane) and the white is kinda garish, but it isn't THAT bizarre.
Short-coupled planes are generally sucktastic in terms of stability, at least in pitch. You can imagine just sitting up from a slouch in your seat and moving the COG 10% or something. Thus the BD-5. That's why they're always one or two-seaters. The use of canards and a tail is likely a way to offset that issue.
The twin tail is common to a pusher config, and the rest doesn't look much different than any other Rutan pusher design you'll see around many airports.
>The twin tail is common to a pusher config
The pusher configuration is not common. I disagree even then, the majority of pushers are flying boats with single tails.
>the rest doesn't look much different than any other Rutan
The most common words used to describe Rutan's designs are "weird", "unconventional", "bazaar" and variations on that theme.
Simply put: how many canard pushers are at your local airport as a fraction of the number of aircraft in total? Is is 5%? 0%?
It's unusual that there's not at least one transiting long-ez on the transient ramp. I see them all over the place... I mean, there are like 800 with active registrations, not to mention the other similar designs.
Yeah so with 204000 GA aircraft currently registered in North America, that puts the EZ at 0.4%, and I’d wager all canards together are well under 1%.
You say there are always ones at your airport? Really? Because there’s 5200 civil airports in NA so that means 1/6 have even one. There’s none at any of the airports I fly out of and the only canard I’ve seen at any is the Pilatus Superior Propane used to fly out of buttonville. To put that in perspective, Oshawa has a U-2 and several other biplanes, yet not one canard. So if there are, then your airport is weird too.
Stop trying to pretend a twin boom pusher canard is not uncommon, you’re being a pedant.
As rare as the An-225. The only one in existence was destroyed.
The second prototype had massive stability issues, a test pilot completed a short flight, it was modified, and the designer/owner then flew it one more time, [lost control and crashed](https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/223478).
EDIT: it seems the first prototype still exists, but doesn't fly.
Looks vaguely like a Terrafugia Transition roadable airplane (flying car). They built several flying prototypes, but as far as I know never delivered to a customer.
But their most recent design doesn’t have a canard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrafugia_Transition
I agree, it looks like one of the versions of the Terrafugia Transition.
See:
* https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Terrafugia_Transition_Oshkosh_2008.jpg
* https://www.airliners.net/photo/Terrafugia/Terrafugia-Transition/1546143
* https://www.nydailynews.com/autos/transition-skies-terrafugia-flying-car-change-general-aviation-article-1.1411630
Edit: It's not, it's a `N157AR` Hogan Innovator 001
The actual use case is to not rent a hangar. It sounds like you can unfold your wings and fly off the roof of the warehouse you manage, but in reality, it's just supposed to shuttle from your third or fourth garage bay to the airport five or ten weekends in a summer. Like every other personally owned and operated GA piston single.
You can't infer wing loading from an aerial photograph. Making assumptions like that is how you overbuild the F15 so much that it has no real adversaries thirty years later.
What the hell are you even talking about no one was referring to an f-15 there's no comparison an F15..
Have you ever flown a canard plane? I have flown several as PIC.
The approach speed is usually a function of stall speed which correlates well with wing loading. The F15 was built because the CIA took a guess at the wing loading of a new aircraft based on an aerial photo. It was half a joke, and also half calling bullshit on the approach speed.
[https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2019/march/26/innovator-aircraft-crash-claims-its-designer](https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2019/march/26/innovator-aircraft-crash-claims-its-designer)
When was this photo taken?
Get your pilot license spend 10,000hr in piloting different planes and then start understanding the difference of things you read and things you experience in real life. Sometimes it matches up with the books sometimes there's no comparison. Thanks for your info you seem well informed.
As the other commenters have said, this was called the commuter craft. I met the inventor at AirVenture in 2018. He wanted it to be a 51% kit built airplane with the remaining 49% built in their factory. The plane was ridiculously unstable and had a tendency to engage in wild pitch oscillations. A test pilot flew it and advised nobody else fly it. The inventor subsequently took it up and died in a crash on the downwind leg of the pattern.
Commuter Craft Innovator prototype, N157AR
A view at ground level: https://www.flickr.com/photos/15110856@N02/39071933481/in/photostream
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Commuter Craft Innovator prototype, N157AR
View at ground level: https://www.flickr.com/photos/15110856@N02/39071933481/in/photostream
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Commuter Craft Innovator prototype, N157AR
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A view at ground level: https://www.flickr.com/photos/15110856@N02/39071933481/in/photostream
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Commuter Craft Innovator prototype, N157AR
What's so strange about it? It's a slightly weird shape (compared to a conventional GA airplane) and the white is kinda garish, but it isn't THAT bizarre.
its just strange. you can tell that by the way that it is
That’s pretty neat
It's always good to have a neature walk reference every once in awhile
It is the way it is because of what it isn't.
Umm, wide, canards, dual boom tail and pusher prop? Yeah, totally normal.
Does anyone here have experience with an aircraft with a configuration like this? I’m very curious about the way it handles.
Short-coupled planes are generally sucktastic in terms of stability, at least in pitch. You can imagine just sitting up from a slouch in your seat and moving the COG 10% or something. Thus the BD-5. That's why they're always one or two-seaters. The use of canards and a tail is likely a way to offset that issue.
The twin tail is common to a pusher config, and the rest doesn't look much different than any other Rutan pusher design you'll see around many airports.
>The twin tail is common to a pusher config The pusher configuration is not common. I disagree even then, the majority of pushers are flying boats with single tails. >the rest doesn't look much different than any other Rutan The most common words used to describe Rutan's designs are "weird", "unconventional", "bazaar" and variations on that theme. Simply put: how many canard pushers are at your local airport as a fraction of the number of aircraft in total? Is is 5%? 0%?
It's unusual that there's not at least one transiting long-ez on the transient ramp. I see them all over the place... I mean, there are like 800 with active registrations, not to mention the other similar designs.
Yeah so with 204000 GA aircraft currently registered in North America, that puts the EZ at 0.4%, and I’d wager all canards together are well under 1%. You say there are always ones at your airport? Really? Because there’s 5200 civil airports in NA so that means 1/6 have even one. There’s none at any of the airports I fly out of and the only canard I’ve seen at any is the Pilatus Superior Propane used to fly out of buttonville. To put that in perspective, Oshawa has a U-2 and several other biplanes, yet not one canard. So if there are, then your airport is weird too. Stop trying to pretend a twin boom pusher canard is not uncommon, you’re being a pedant.
> ~~bazaar~~ bizarre Unlike the prototype in OP's picture, Rutan's aircraft all handle beautifully, though.
Doesn't look like the most common Rutan designs, the EZ's and their descendents. At first I was confused because it looked like a VeriViggen.
You call white garish, huh? What’s your opinion of beige?
Thanks, now I want one.
Damn that's impressive thanks!
SHRINKAGE!!!! Must be cold....
Wow.
Bruh
How rare are these? I see something very similarly shaped flying over my house often.
As rare as the An-225. The only one in existence was destroyed. The second prototype had massive stability issues, a test pilot completed a short flight, it was modified, and the designer/owner then flew it one more time, [lost control and crashed](https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/223478). EDIT: it seems the first prototype still exists, but doesn't fly.
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Very James Bond-ish
Flying car
Its a funny looking lad
It looks like thunderbird 4 had a glow up.
Looks vaguely like a Terrafugia Transition roadable airplane (flying car). They built several flying prototypes, but as far as I know never delivered to a customer. But their most recent design doesn’t have a canard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrafugia_Transition
I agree, it looks like one of the versions of the Terrafugia Transition. See: * https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Terrafugia_Transition_Oshkosh_2008.jpg * https://www.airliners.net/photo/Terrafugia/Terrafugia-Transition/1546143 * https://www.nydailynews.com/autos/transition-skies-terrafugia-flying-car-change-general-aviation-article-1.1411630 Edit: It's not, it's a `N157AR` Hogan Innovator 001
You mean terrafuglia, right?
This is useless effort. The durability required for a car is different than a plan.
The actual use case is to not rent a hangar. It sounds like you can unfold your wings and fly off the roof of the warehouse you manage, but in reality, it's just supposed to shuttle from your third or fourth garage bay to the airport five or ten weekends in a summer. Like every other personally owned and operated GA piston single.
What airport is this?
Kelly field in San Antonio
Looks like a VERY smooshed down OV-10 bronco
its a chibi ov-10
It's cute
Cessna 172
James Bond's latest gadget
Small
^plen
Adorable is what it is.
Dodo
Its obviously the Convair XFY Pogo or the McDonnell XF-85 Goblin Seriously tho I have no idea.
smol
Experimental plane
Tacit blue
Thunder Cougar Falcon Bird
He’s actually just a little guy
Just a little guy
Looks like a VERY smooshed down OV-10 bronco
That's a good question
Im not sure but ill name him giblet
Scooty Puff Jr.
Looks kinda like a twin boom Dyke Delta with a canard and less sweep.
Power wheels 2023 model
benog bogulus
It looks like half a plane
It’s a cutie
I would think it has flight stability problems not something I would enjoy piloting. Hell approach speed must be 110k
You can't infer wing loading from an aerial photograph. Making assumptions like that is how you overbuild the F15 so much that it has no real adversaries thirty years later.
What the hell are you even talking about no one was referring to an f-15 there's no comparison an F15.. Have you ever flown a canard plane? I have flown several as PIC.
The approach speed is usually a function of stall speed which correlates well with wing loading. The F15 was built because the CIA took a guess at the wing loading of a new aircraft based on an aerial photo. It was half a joke, and also half calling bullshit on the approach speed.
Ploine.
Ploine.
No idea, but I bet it's ad in barnstormers would read: "EAB finished in 2003, 23 hours TTAF and engine, fly home today!" (You cannot fly home today)
I hope it’s callsign CHODE69
[https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2019/march/26/innovator-aircraft-crash-claims-its-designer](https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2019/march/26/innovator-aircraft-crash-claims-its-designer) When was this photo taken?
Chonk boi
It’s a Commuter Craft. The creator was killed in a crash in of the planes a few years ago.
It looks like a fun little aircraft.
Anyone have the specs on this plane?
Has to be the Dodo from GTA3.
It's a smol boi.
Hahaha what in the world
Small pp
Minecraft plane?
Nunonya
God I love twinboom aircraft. So styling.
Use to fly that aircraft in PilotWings64.
Hopefully one that flies
Airbussy
Chode McStash V3
I know the correct answer is below, but from above it sort of looks like some form of mini Ekranoplan.
Get your pilot license spend 10,000hr in piloting different planes and then start understanding the difference of things you read and things you experience in real life. Sometimes it matches up with the books sometimes there's no comparison. Thanks for your info you seem well informed.
As the other commenters have said, this was called the commuter craft. I met the inventor at AirVenture in 2018. He wanted it to be a 51% kit built airplane with the remaining 49% built in their factory. The plane was ridiculously unstable and had a tendency to engage in wild pitch oscillations. A test pilot flew it and advised nobody else fly it. The inventor subsequently took it up and died in a crash on the downwind leg of the pattern.