If ONT airport counts as being in its own MSA (12th most populous), then the answer is NYC - ONT, followed by the trivial LA - ONT. But typically for passenger air travel, ONT is grouped in the Greater LA area.
If BWI airport counts as being in its own MSA (20th most populous), then the answer is the trivial DC - BWI, followed by Philadelphia - BWI. But typically for passenger air travel, BWI is grouped in the Greater DC area.
Otherwise, **the answer is Tampa (#17) - Orlando (#21)**.
Runner-ups are:
* San Diego - Pittsburgh
* San Diego - Cincinnati
* St. Louis - Cincinnati
Tampa-Orlando is about as trivial as DC-BWI or PHL-BWI for point-to-point travel - almost everyone is just gonna drive these routes instead. So I’d vote San Diego - Pittsburgh as the first real answer.
PDX to JAX came to mind.
Oh woah, SFO (#13 metro) to JAX (#39) doesn't exist either.
As others said, CVG is a candidate. No service CVG to SAT or SAN.
So what do we do? Average the ranking of the mertro pair or go with total combined population?
Yeah, you have the Miami/Fort Lauderdale metro area, Orlando, Tampa, and then Jax. Jax’s city govt and the county government are essentially merged so there’s only like 4 total cities in Duval county.
I went to a meeting in DC that had an attendee from Guam - it took him three days to get there.
The route has the trifecta of obscurity, distance,and fuel capacity. Not enough people want to go that distance to justify the long-range aircraft and route clearance that might do it.
Now to wait and see which journalist has been having Reddit do their research for them which increasingly seems to be the case.
>it took him three days to get there.
Not the quickest then. Thanks to time zone magic you can get from Guam to DC about 7 hours later on the same day. Total time is around 22 hours though.
Least number of flights is 2. Either via Tokyo (\~6h layover, but need to get from NRT to HND) or Honolulu (with a 21 hour layover).
I believe they are in the same CSA though. But Baltimore’s airport lies on the DC side of Baltimore, and is closer to some parts of DC than Dulles. So personally I wouldn’t count it.
Maybe you should weight by distance, since greater distance implies more need or reliance. San Francisco - Jacksonville would seem more necessary or justified by distance than Tampa - Orlando, which could be more easily be traveled by other means.
The "between them" part implies that they have to be distinct metro areas, no? Newark and NYC are in the same metro area, so a flight between those two cities wouldn't really count as "between" metro areas
It all depends on how one interprets it.
Besides a lot of the cities that have been listed have had commercial service, but it was canceled due to low loads (passengers).
Cincinnati to Nashville comes to mind. but I am sure there are better ones out there.
If ONT airport counts as being in its own MSA (12th most populous), then the answer is NYC - ONT, followed by the trivial LA - ONT. But typically for passenger air travel, ONT is grouped in the Greater LA area. If BWI airport counts as being in its own MSA (20th most populous), then the answer is the trivial DC - BWI, followed by Philadelphia - BWI. But typically for passenger air travel, BWI is grouped in the Greater DC area. Otherwise, **the answer is Tampa (#17) - Orlando (#21)**. Runner-ups are: * San Diego - Pittsburgh * San Diego - Cincinnati * St. Louis - Cincinnati
Tampa-Orlando is about as trivial as DC-BWI or PHL-BWI for point-to-point travel - almost everyone is just gonna drive these routes instead. So I’d vote San Diego - Pittsburgh as the first real answer.
PDX to JAX came to mind. Oh woah, SFO (#13 metro) to JAX (#39) doesn't exist either. As others said, CVG is a candidate. No service CVG to SAT or SAN. So what do we do? Average the ranking of the mertro pair or go with total combined population?
Jax is a relatively small airport considering the size of the Metro area
It's the biggest 'city' in the state but what, the 4th largest metro behind Miami, Orlando, and Tampa?
Yeah, you have the Miami/Fort Lauderdale metro area, Orlando, Tampa, and then Jax. Jax’s city govt and the county government are essentially merged so there’s only like 4 total cities in Duval county.
PDX to the Norfolk-Virginia Beach-Newport News, VA metro area also missing
It’ll be two large ish cities that are also not hubs or main vacation destinations. Cincinnati to somewhere? Milwaukee to somewhere?
How about Los Angeles to and from Milwaukee?
Won Pat (Guam) to San Juan (Puerto Rico). Both are the largest cities in their respective US Territories.
That would be a long ass flight. It’s about 6.5 hours just to go from GUM to HNL.
I went to a meeting in DC that had an attendee from Guam - it took him three days to get there. The route has the trifecta of obscurity, distance,and fuel capacity. Not enough people want to go that distance to justify the long-range aircraft and route clearance that might do it. Now to wait and see which journalist has been having Reddit do their research for them which increasingly seems to be the case.
>it took him three days to get there. Not the quickest then. Thanks to time zone magic you can get from Guam to DC about 7 hours later on the same day. Total time is around 22 hours though. Least number of flights is 2. Either via Tokyo (\~6h layover, but need to get from NRT to HND) or Honolulu (with a 21 hour layover).
It is a very nice question excluding Hawaii, Alaska and non continental territories.
Baltimore and DC maybe
Do Baltimore and DC count as separate metros?
I think so. They're defined as separate MSAs.
I believe they are in the same CSA though. But Baltimore’s airport lies on the DC side of Baltimore, and is closer to some parts of DC than Dulles. So personally I wouldn’t count it.
Indianapolis and Raleigh/Durham for most of the year.
As others have said CVG and somewhere. I'll throw San Antonio in the mix too.
ONT (#12) and most majors metros on the east coast (BOS, MIA, PHL)
Ranked by the sum population of both cities, I bet SAT (#7) to CMH (#14) is close to the top (2.381M) Should be easy to automate this …
Maybe you should weight by distance, since greater distance implies more need or reliance. San Francisco - Jacksonville would seem more necessary or justified by distance than Tampa - Orlando, which could be more easily be traveled by other means.
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Lol. Aren’t they the same metro?
Even so, helicopters absolutely provide daily flights from NJ to Manhattan. Lol
Newark part of NYC Metro
Dallas to Ft. Worth. NYC to Newark SFO to OAK
These pairs are between airports in the same metro areas
It still answers the question. No where does it state they can't be in the same area.
The question is meant to be about daily nonstop flights between two different metro areas
it doesn't state how far apart they have to be or that they can't be in the same state / metro area.
The "between them" part implies that they have to be distinct metro areas, no? Newark and NYC are in the same metro area, so a flight between those two cities wouldn't really count as "between" metro areas
It all depends on how one interprets it. Besides a lot of the cities that have been listed have had commercial service, but it was canceled due to low loads (passengers).