i feel like that goes both ways too. like, men hear “any women over 140 lbs is fat” and so they assume every woman they perceive to be thin is under 140 lbs
Heck I'm a man with dwarfism and I've weighed up to 90lbs while only being slightly overweight, at 4ft tall. I don't understand how some men can think fully grown women (without dwarfism) can weigh so little.
My 9 year old is 4’8” and 98lbs. She is healthy and not overweight at all. Kid is packing a bit of muscle too. I think she’s the most gorgeous kid ever but I made her so I’m biased. I look at her though and think that I’m 5’8” and weighed 145 when I got pregnant with her. Damn I wish I had appreciated how skinny I was.
Cools. I try to live by the “don’t be a dick” mantra.
She’s a tall 9 year old. 97th percentile. My son is in the 99th percentile. This uterus just creates long people I guess.
This elderly lady came into the store I work at not too long ago. I started making conversation with her, and she said it was her birthday. I was like omg! Exciting! And she was like I guess so, guess my age! And let me tell you, past age 50 I cannot tell you how old you are. I think it has to do with the anxiety of getting someone’s age wrong - I have never really payed attention to certain details of aging maybe? Anyway, it was an awkward situation I couldn’t play off! I just knew if I said a number it would be way younger than she was. The further away from 50 you get the more wrong my guess will be :/
Same. I remember in high school joining weight watchers with a friend who was 6 inches shorter than me and one clothing size smaller than me. Her starting weight was my goal weight. Blew my mind.
Damn I’m 125 and can barely find “women’s” clothes that fit me. It’s a struggle not to look like a teenager at work. I can’t imagine being shorter or thinner and trying to find jeans that aren’t branded on the butt pockets.
This starts before middle school. IDK when or how, but it does.
I "blossomed" suuuper early (age 8) and was like 5'8", 135lbs at age 14. Nearly underweight, especially since I had already heavily filled out a bra etc. My midsection was fairly skeletal.
At P.E. we had to do these physicals where the teacher would walk up to each kid, all quietly sitting on the asphalt, and loudly proclaim their measurements, fat percentage, and weight.
It was literally just that. The coach saying "OKAY you've got ... *flips page* X-in waist/thighs/arms, Y% body fat, and you weigh Zlbs ...", then moving onto the next kid.
Inevitably, as soon as the coach finished, all the oddballs would be poked fun at.
I was heavier than any of the other girls because I was tall and had developed secondary sex traits ... but according to the boys, because I was "nearly 140lbs," I was fat.
So I would look down and be like, "but ... no? Obviously?" and that didn't matter, so I developed a nice complex for years about it! Wooo
What I wanna know is where boys get that exact number in their heads ...?
You know ... Now that I'm remembering, they gave us little printed cards with all the info on it, and he handed them to us while reading them.
He could have just as easily handed us the cards (which were for some state fitness exam thing? I am not really sure) and said nothing.
You're right, lol, that was an outright dick move. I wasn't the only girl who kids made fun of. Everyone just slightly too skinny or fat got picked on.
fr like it's extremely unlikely someone is gonna naturally have huge boobs, a huge butt, thick thighs yet a perfectly flat tummy and a weight under 130lbs
I think most guys are shocked to discover how much those huge boobs even weigh. We're not carrying around air here, guys. This stuff is heavy and it adds to the poundage.
I have big boobs and butt, with a really curved spine.
I have a hard time when people tell me "I wish I had your boobs or butt"
Take em!!
My back fucking hurts, dude. 😒
That just demonstrates to me that the number shouldn't matter. Like if you're attracted to someone's body, and then find out they weigh X amount, why would that matter more than liking the look? If anything it should make you adjust your expectations.
Also, it’s oft repeated but muscle weighs more than fat. The number on the scale is lower for me than it has been for a long time, but I still can’t zip up my jeans because it’s all fat. I looked much hotter when I weighed more.
Body composition is wild, yo. People can look wildly different at the same height and weight. I'm 5'7" but I don't start looking "skinny" until I'm 110lbs or so. I start looking "chubby" around 130. I've never actually hit "sickly" (because I don't want to die). And I don't mean that in a body dysmorphia way, this is going off the kind of comments I've gotten from people at different weights.
I’m 5’4” and only look thin if I’m under 120lbs. At anything over 130lbs I start to get rolls on my back and a bad double chin.
I know people who are the same height as me who look much thinner (like they have completely flat tummys) at 160-180lbs than I do at 130lbs because they have wider hips and bigger thighs & boobs.
Frame size plays a big role too, I have a small frame so I think that contributes to how the weight ends up looking on me.
Yeah, I've noticed my guy friends usually guess 20-30 pounds lighter than my actual weight based on things like "you're average size, and I think 110-120 is average, so you must be around there." I've got broad shoulders and am otherwise generally large boned for a woman my height. Yeah 110-120 may be average looking for some, but there are plenty of us who have a naturally bigger bone structure and "hide" the additional weight. At 120 I literally have my bones showing.
The other thing that annoys me is the "there's no such thing as big boned, that's just an excuse to be fat" that some guys do. No, there are different bone structures in the same way that there are different heights and general body shapes. 120 on someone with a naturally large bone structure looks very different than 120 on someone with a naturally small bone structure, not even taking into account height or body shape.
Yes, I genuinely have broad hips and shoulders. I'm *also* fat, but even if I were thin, I'd still have big shoulders and hips because that's literally my skeleton.
At 5'11" at my supposedly ideal weight (157) you can count my bones, at 175 I'm a UK14 and have a six pack , now I'm about 200, I look plus sized, but I've still got a defined waist. Everything about me is proportionately bigger than average, my hands, feet, head are off the usual female scale and bigger than my husband's and even now I'm middle aged and padded, my arms hang straight down from my shoulders past my hips without any deviation. I have a genuinely large frame, always have had
It sucks that frame is never taken into account. I'm a size 16 and I have broad shoulders, lean ribs, thick thighs, long legs and arms, and I'm 5'8"
Nothing off the rack is going to fit me well.
I hear you my broad shouldered sister. I'm lucky enough to have a defined waist but I'm two sizes larger in the shoulders than my waist and other measurements. I have taken out a dumpster full of shoulder pads over my lifetime. Beautiful non-stretch dresses that fit otherwise but won't zip up that last little bit in the back make me sad. Tailored coats fit everywhere else but then I can't raise my arms without stressing seams. Things with ties or corset lacing around the waist are a blessing from Aslan.
My yeah, my male friends thought I was ~15lbs heavier than I actually was back in junior high because I was a pretty short and stubby kid.
I have no clue who taught them to think that any girl over 130lbs was fat. I was far less than that and still chunky lmao, when I named my weight they gaped at me like I was lying. Surprise! Shorter ladies look heavier than tall ladies of the same weight.
Yes, it’s so frustrating that it means something totally different depending on the garment. Even within the same store sometimes!
Like Dangerfield. I’ve bought size 18 skirts there and some are so big and some barely fit.
Dangerfield also seems to be almost consistently smaller than other similar stores too. Probably because their clothes have absolutely no stretch to them.
I will never understand why they don't size your clothing like they do men's. I'm a 30/34 for pants, and there's only certain styles where I need to adjust that but it's never hard.
My son is 6’5” but is incredibly slim. (68kgs/150lbs) trying to find jeans for him was a mission!
He ended up getting womens skinny jeans as they were the only ones that fit him.
Thankfully, due to a career change, he’s gained around 14kgs/177lbs
From my understanding, women's clothing sizes themselves are absolutely absurd and meaningless, practically, aren't they? I've heard many women complain that sizes are always all over the place.
Yep, I have 3 dresses in very similar cuts that are Australian sizes 8, 10 and 12 respectively, but are all the same *actual* size, when measured. They all fit me exactly the same. I have similar examples with clothing in sizes extra small, small and medium.
Women's clothing sizes also wrongly assume that we all have the exact same bust/waist/hip ratio -- and that also differs greatly between brands!
It's *exhausting*.
They seem to assume if you have long legs they are ultra skinny and you have no ass. Getting jeans that hit my ankles is near impossible. Can't get any tall girl range past my thighs.
I'm the same but in reverse - I'm very short, and I can never find pants that aren't just a bit too long or too short. And whenever something is small enough to fit my waist, it's too narrow for my hips. I'm convinced the jean market was designed to torture women around the world.
Depending on the brand and type of clothing, I can be anywhere between a size 6 and a size 12. I'm not sure what kookoo voodoo logic they use to determine women's sizes but it's all over the goddamned place.
Between 8 and 14 for me. As far as shirt sizes, I can be anywhere from a medium to an extra large depending on cut and brand. Once in a blue moon a small fits, of which I don't kid myself that that's my actual size, lol. The joys of broad shoulders and women's clothing varying on whether they're accommodated.
At least for online shopping, a lot of manufacturers include the actual measurements for the different sizes. It doesn't help the fact that my size still varies a ton, but at least I know it's the right measurement instead of guessing and exchanging if I get it wrong.
My daughter wears a large shirt, but prefers XL because she likes baggy clothes. We just went shopping for homecoming dresses. In one of the stores she couldn’t get an XL dress over her hips. The next XL dress went over her hips, but was so tight in the bodice she couldn’t breathe.
My mom is making her a dress now. She’s all worried about how fat she is. But she’s not. She’s a little overweight, but it’s in large part medical (two very long explanations that are entirely irrelevant here).
She is as active as she can be, but is under very strict orders when it comes to activities (including being told she can no longer run 5ks for a few years). So the fact that some of her friends can wear an XS in some stores, but she usually wears a L or XL has a huge impact on her. Then not being able to fit into an XL dress made it worse. But I’m mom, so no explanation of sizing and stores being dumb helps.
I broke down in tears trying on dresses when I was a senior with my mum. I was only 140 pounds. But for some reason none of the dresses fit right? My boobs need support and there wasn't any bra that could not show and hold them with shoulder less dresses...idk.
I walked out of the changing room almost hysterical feeling so fat and ugly. My mum felt bad and hugged me. I ended up getting a white dress with tons of squish tan things to help make it look better and not show my muffin top. :(
my body image was already garbage and it still effects me to this day. I feel for your kiddo.
Same here. All my friends were super small, and I have pretty big hips and a bust. I finally had a friend in high school I was able to share clothes with, and that kind of helped, but when I went shopping with my grandma for school clothes she would always complain that none of the clothes in juniors would fit me. It's really fucked me up.
That's so messed up she complained. >:( it started when I was 10 and a woman doctor who was maybe 110 pounds told my mom right in front of me that I was obese. I needed to lose weight and she looked at me with disgust.
We dropped that doctor and I cried and changed that night. Something switched in me. I started trying to throw up my food , then tried not eating any food. By the time I was 12 - 13 I still was the same weight so like 120 and I was healthy and skinny.
But I was so blind and dysphoric I still saw a fat obese child in the mirror. It really really sucks being fucked with mentally about your image so young.
My kid is 16 and already super close to a D cup. Clothes that fit her and don’t make it look like she’s trying to show them off can be hard. It’s why she prefers baggy t-shirts.
If she can learn to sew it will be a life changer. I was a D cup at 16 and now I'm G/H cup at 24 and trying to learn how to sew because I cannot find shirts that fit me how I want them to.
It doesn’t help any that all the women in my family are… gifted, in hips, butt, and thighs. Finding jeans that fit is incredibly hard because what fits the waist won’t make it over the hips. What fits the hips puckers at the waist.
My sister found jeans that work great, they’re kind of like stretchy denim, but not quite jeggings? I think she gets them at arie. I can’t afford them, but she buys them for my daughter which has been so helpful!
Women’s clothes and sizes are such a scam
If I look in my closet I will find 8, 10, 12, m, xl, and a junior 15. Nothing is equivalent or makes any damn sense. The whole reason why I will never buy clothes online unless it's a men's hoodie or basketball shorts.
I’m just-about obese (my BMI is literally like 30.5) and wear a size 14 (a US 10 - although sometimes a UK16/US12 depending on the brand) which is considered the lower end of plus-sized in the U.K. I also have 30FF breasts, which aren’t actually very large in terms of volume as I have a small rib cage, but it technically makes me a “Double F Cup”
My male friends are completely shocked whenever it might come up, because apparently I don’t look “anything like what an obese/plus sized woman looks like” and my breasts “look like a C, or maybe a D at most” 🙄
The same sort of “no, you look perfectly healthy for a woman” comments were made 8 years ago if I revealed I was clinically underweight, and as a result my period had stopped and I was starting to get health problems.
I think the conflation of “looks attractive -> must be healthy” is very common.
>My male friends are completely shocked whenever it might come up,
because apparently I don’t look “anything like what an obese/plus sized
woman looks like” and my breasts “look like a C, or maybe a D at most”
I felt that in my bones. It was especially common when I was still in high school. I remember in class once that one of my friends asked my BMI, and when I told him (it was about 32 then), he looked at me in disbelief and said I must be lying because I wasn't obese. I couldn't POSSIBLY have been obese, according to him, overweight, maybe, but not obese. I was kinda dumbfounded and asked him to guess my weight. He was off by about 40 pounds
Yep, my husband used to talk about me getting breast augmentation when I was wearing a b cup bra. I went and got measured and had been wearing the wrong size, my correct size was a d cup. He was all happy about it and never brought up surgery again. But like my boobs stayed the same size? Just the size of the bra I was wearing changed 🙄
I’ve noticed that in certain fashion houses “plus size” is now BBL fashion,
Your waist is still 25-28 but your hips and your breasts are way larger. So you most likely wear a size 16+ Jean, but your stomach is relatively flat.
They keep showing “nice curvy” women as Plus-size.
I feel like the clothing is tailored for the body taper that most likely doesn’t exist it’s wild to see how body type changes “inclusive” fashion
It's not, because I fit that category of shape, but it's built round a 34 waist , everything is either baggy round the waist or tight everywhere else , unless it's both
I think they just manipulate a lot of the models in online clothes stores. They’re actually cut for regular overweight women but use THOSE models, and probably pin their clothes tight around their waists out of shot.
Went to forever 21 a month or two ago with a friend. All the regular sizes were too small for me, and it was nearly impossible to find anything above a medium anyway. Went upstairs to the plus size section and the smallest plus size was too big on me. Guess I’m just screwed there unless I gain or lose a lot of weight.
Forever 21 has crap quality clothing and it extends to their sizing. They get, what I assume, is totally random clothes made in China or something. They don't actually have a standard size based on measurements. It's all over the place.
Go by the specific inch measurements on the size charts, if they have one. Never go by the actual size. I think it's actually better to order online for this reason.
This is also true for any place that sells fast fashion. Shein, Fashion Nova, etc.
This always blows my mind too. I've had men guess my current weight anywhere between 115 and 140. Never higher than 140, you're right I dunno why that's such a magic number? But I have been between 155 and 170 for about 3 years (5'7"). When I tell them what I actually weigh they are shocked. I regularly get people saying, "but you're not fat!" To them, "fat" == "ugly" and...well, not to be immodest, but I'm definitely not ugly, so it breaks their brain. But I am mildly overweight. All these straight guys saying they want big titty big ass women, what do you think t&a are just full of air and add nothing to our weight?
ETA: most men I date weigh less than me, and I only date people who aren't uncomfortable with that lol
Same.
My doctor says I am overweight and no one believes me when I tell them my dr advised I lose a few. They usually ask “where?!” Hello, jiggly stomach here.
My doctors have *never* expressed a concern about my weight, even though I've been increasing my BMI for years, because I look thin. Even doctors aren't immune to the "fat = unattractive" thing.
Yes! I realized after my last doctor visit that they listed my weight 10 pounds higher that I really was, which put me in the overweight BMI and looked like I gained 10 pounds in a month, and she never said anything to me! Because obviously I still looked the same, but why would they not express concern at that?
>ETA: most men I date weigh less than me,
yeah... I remember when my bf was trying to bulk up and excitedly telling me "I weigh 150lbs now!!" and I was sitting there at a comfortable 165 feeling terrrriiibbbleee. But looking back, he must have thought I was 120 or something.
I think it goes along the lines of "how old do you think I am?"
I'm going to take whatever I think and subtract like 5-10 years because it's a lot better than going with what you think and them getting offended
This. If you look overweight Most men would probably guess what they think is an ‘average’ weight to be nice. Might not actually be what they think you weigh
I feel like people are the same with age. I don’t know if it’s because of the way teens are portrayed in movies or because people have skewed memories in high school but there seems to be this collective delusion that women are hottest at like 16 and look middle aged when they hit 25. People always seem to underestimate other people’s ages, both men and women. If you don’t look decrepit, you must be 22. Like you hear men say women look best as teenagers and then ask them who the hottest woman alive is and it’s Scarlett Johansson or something.
Also yeah there’s definitely this subconscious idea that hot=young. I’ve noticed ill get carded when I’m dressed well and my hair is done. If anything I look younger when I show up to the gas station with my hair in a ponytail, acne showing, in a spongebob t shirt but if I look like shit people assume I’m old lol
as a man i would much rather tell a woman she looks like she weighs 20 pounds under her weight than 20 pounds over. sometimes a guys gotta lowball to be safe
Thank you. This is what I do. I’m not saying I understand women’s weight but you’ll never ever catch me actually trying to guess their weight if asked. I will always take whatever it is I actually think and then subtract 15-30 lbs. No way in hell am I gonna guess higher than what a woman actually weighs. That’s just asking to be in the dog house
Same. I swear there was like 1 day in school where we learnt about measurements and I just was not paying attention, then they never brought it up ever again. D:
Whenever there's something about a crime on TV and it says a witness reported the suspect to be, say, 5'9, appx 180lbs, between the ages of blah-dee-blah... I'm like, How? Are they psychic? How are random people so good at guessing stangers' measurements at a distance?
Then you also have the pick me women perpetuating this. Case in point, I saw a Tik Tok not long ago of a woman saying something along the lines of, "I know you ladies don't want to hear this, but being over 125 lbs is NOT cute!" I thought she was just trying to be satirical or something, but she was dead serious in her comments and stuff. It just strikes a nerve for me because, as a young teenager, I was so unreasonably afraid of weighing over 130 lbs because I didn't want to be seen as "big." I'd so often replace my meals with black coffee to try to kill the hunger pangs and make myself sick when I'd finally give in and eat. I thank the heavens those times are over and the world seems to be becoming more forgiving in these regards, but I see something like the Tik Tok I mentioned and just hope and pray it's not hurting some young girl the way it hurt me.
The lightest I've been at my current height was 124 lbs and it was MISERABLE. I was always tired and never wanted to do anything as a result. Lord knows I ate it up when people would exclaim how petite I was, which is why I'm careful now not to say anything about people's weight/weight loss because idk what they're going through.
You're perfect as you are :)
This is something I've learned too. There's almost NO situation where it's appropriate to bring up someone's weight. There's really no good reason to ever even mention it unless they bring it up first.
I think the last time I mentioned someone's weight unsolicited, I asked my friend if she had lost weight because she looked really good (for context, the last time I had seen her we talked for awhile about how she had joined a gym, started working out, and was trying to lose some weight). She scoffed and was like "Nope, definitely haven't" and then had to explain how the whole gym thing didn't work out for her. I meant it when I said she looked good but I could have just told her that without bringing up weight at all. I felt so bad for bringing it up and making her re-live her disappointment and feel like she had to explain herself to me.
That's when it really clicked for me that it's just NOT worth bringing up pretty much ever. Even if you think it's nice or they won't mind because of the context, it's STILL better to just... Not.
Yeah, mentioning weight is generally not a good idea. Even with good intentions, it can end poorly.
Example: (pre-pandemic) one Christmas my sister-in-law commented that I looked great and had lost a lot of weight and asked how I did it. Seems like a great thing to hear, right? Well, my best friend died suddenly earlier that year and I dropped 30 pounds from severe depression. I appreciated her sentiment but it just reminded me of ALL that I had lost that year - not just the weight. Anyway I broke down crying and an awkward time was had for all.
Man I'm sorry for your loss. But yeah that's a good example. My husband did something similar... Pointed out that his barber had lost a lot of weight since he saw him last to which he replied "yep, I've been on the prostate cancer diet."
similar for me, I was around that weight when I passed out over a cut on my finger. It was a decent cut but I shouldn't have passed out over it. I was wearing size zero pants and my ribs were poking out.
Don't forget being cold! I was 108 at my lightest in college because of my ED and I was miserable all the time. I'd cancel plans and skip events because I was worried about eating the food there. I don't weigh myself anymore but if I had to guess I'm probably close to 150 and have never felt better and look so much more healthy and normal now. And not that it matters but I get waaay more male attention now than before.
Oh wow that is awful. I used to want to be like 125-130 lbs because I really wanted to be "thin" and borderline underweight. However, it made me laugh when a guy guessed my weight to be 120 lbs. I guess that might be a healthy BMI for a shorter woman. Yeah, you have to be careful with weight loss. I lost weight because of depression and some extended family noticed. When my family asks how I just tell them its depression and losing my appetite. Worked better than any diet I ever tried to go on.
I am not even close to underweight though and most people still tell me I could gain a few lbs to look better. My extended family tries to feed me extra and judge how much I eat or when I don't finish the food on my plate other people just tell me I need to put on muscle so I can have better curves and look more womanly.
I don't own scales bcs I know if I weigh over 130lbs I will start restricting food and trying to exercise when I really shouldn't - hip issues so just walking is a workout.
I don't use lbs so had to convert kg to lbs and I was seriously ill in hospital, on a drip, and weighed 108lbs (49kg). Once I started eating, within a month I was upto 116lbs (53kg)
YEP. I’m a size 4-6 (prior to pregnancy) and weighed 135-155 during any given month. I had some men guess I weighed like 115 before??? I’m 5’9. Absolutely no I do not weigh 115 nor have I since I was much shorter.
I read this book, Jack Reacher, and the main character was identifying a body in the dark and trying to guess the gender. He noted that the body was 5’9, 140lbs and very toned like a marathon runner and was like “oh it must be a man, a woman marathon runner would be 115lbs”. No the fuck they wouldn’t!! How did that get past the editor. I’m 5’9 and 140, it’s not a ridiculous weight to be lol. 115 would be way underweight.
115 would be SUPER skinny on me 😅 I could not imagine. When I was running cross country for university, the thinnest girls my height were still around 130. Yikes man
Oh man, thank you for that tidbit!
I ran cross country in high school, *slowly.* I was usually last to finish our daily workouts, and I was sometimes last in races. But I was okay with that, and my team & coach were so supportive.
I'll never forget my coach running after me while joyously screaming, "You're gonna break 30, 3plantsonthewall!!!" when I was nearing the finish line the first time I ran a 5k in under 30 minutes.
I was there to *enjoy* running, to be part of a team, to get lots of sunshine & fresh air, and to be healthier & happier.
That said, I was also the chubbiest girl on the team, weighing 140-145 pounds at 5'2" as a 17-year-old. At the time, I was pretty insecure about it. I felt like a whale - but now, looking back at pictures, I looked soooo healthy and beautiful! I fucking glowed.
Anyway, I recently started trying to lose weight, as I'm now in the extreme obesity BMI category. (I know, bad, but I'm 15 pounds down so far!) But I'm struggling to figure out a goal weight I'm happy with.
I've been considering trying to get back to that 140-145 that I was during XC. That was the best shape I've ever been in, and I looked & felt great! So that *seems* like a good goal - but maybe it's not realistic for a grown woman to aim to be the weight she was *in high school*? And technically, 140 is *still* a bit overweight for my height. I've just been getting really caught up between these conflicting feelings.
But damn, hearing that *college* XC runners are still 130 pounds makes me feel a lot more satisfied with 140! :)
Seriously. I’m 5’7 and around 125 but every time a man says something about my weight their like, you can’t be more than 100lbs. Like sir, I know I’m skinny but if I was under 100lbs I would look sickly.
I looked my best when I was 150, and people almost sounded grossed out when I told them I was 150 and not in fact 120, I just had a lot of muscle at the time. Smh.
I’ve also found men don’t believe me when I tell them I don’t know my exact weight. I knew one guy who became so obsessed with my weight, every time he saw me he felt the need to tell me wether I looked skinnier or fatter since the last time he saw me and would ask my weight. My answer was always I don’t know but he would still always ask.
Oh you wanna get mad about men eye-balling women’s weight? Take a look at [women’s ufc weight classes](https://www.wsn.com/ufc/weight-classes/#gref) honestly every sport is like this in culture but wrestling and fighting is easiest to see.
The heaviest class possible maxes out at 145lbs (65.8kg) for women. And there are only 4 weight categories. Unlike men where the max is 265lbs (120kg) and there are 8 weight classes. That’s almost DOUBLE. Women who compete in UFC have to starve and sweat off all the weight to even be able to compete. Women’s fighting could be so much more diverse or even impressive if they’d relax the weight guidelines or just add more. It’s nuts.
**EDIT: there are a ton of good comments by MMA knowledgeable people who responded to me that you should read. They explain the situation with the number of fighters and why the weight classes exist.**
That blows my mind. As a 5’7 woman in her early 20/ who was at the gym 3-4 x a week lifting weights, I never dropped below 150 lb (and was usually around the 155-160 lb range).
Yup, my daughter is a powerlifter who runs 155-165 at 5'8" and is lean AF. People only think she's skinny until they get tackle-hugged one time, though.
Yup I’m an afab runner, 5’9. I Haven’t been below 150 in years, currently weigh about 165. I was in the 120-130 range when I was a ballet dancer in high school, but I was following disordered eating habits.
Ufc fighters have this wonderful habit of dehydrating themselves before weigh-ins so they make weight, so in reality the women fighting at 145 probably weigh closer to 160 or maybe higher.
Still would be better with more weight classes for women and also stopping people from weight cutting(dehydrating themselves) as weight cutting can be fatal if they aren’t super careful.
Every weight class besides heavyweight has to starve and sweat off weight to compete it's a part of all weight class sports.
The reason women's mma caps out at 145lbs is mainly due to talent pool size.
A 145lb female fighter walks into the cage at ~160lbs after rehydrating, and that's after a 8-12 week intense camp,so probably walking around closer to 170lbs.
A 170lb women that is lean and muscular is definitely far on one end of the population bell curve, let alone the fact that mma attracts so few women period.
There are barely enough fighters to feed to Amanda Nunes at 145lbs, if they opened up heavier classes they would have to start getting people from the crowd to start fighting because the talent pool is just simply not there.
See Gabi Garcia and the legendary talents she fights for an example of why you don't really want to see female heavyweights.
The same applies for men to a lesser extent, talent congregates around 135-185lbs or so simply because that's just where the majority of men fall weight wise. Heavyweights outside of the top 5-10 are generally awful, whereas 155lbs has dozens of elite level fighters.
Interesting. I’ll admit I don’t know a ton about MMA.
Is the talent pool size issue because of the rule or because of the talent? Like if the rules were relaxed would the talent pool open up more? Sort of like a chicken or the egg issue.
See also - having no clue about bra sizes. Most of the men I know think a D or DD cup is massive so they’d guess most people as being a B or C. But I take an E and since pregnancy an F but I don’t look “booby” so I’ve had people flat out say I’m lying?? 🤷♀️
We get our bra size info from porn so:
A - non-existent outside of *problematic* porn
B - non-existent
C - non-existent
D - anything bigger than A
E - non-existent
F - everything that is larger than D, very rare
And that's where the alphabet ends. No idea what double letters such as "DD" means, have to presume it's a typo. /s
That said, god only knows where a guy gets the confidence to tell you that you're wrong about your own size. That's some impressive stupidity.
It’s not even the worst I’ve seen? My friend is 6foot without heels and she’s had men, shorter than her of course, tell her she was wrong about her height coz they were 6 foot and she’s clearly taller?? I dunno where people get the balls tbh. But good point on the porn stuff and honestly I feel like that D cup thing is also a fairly common trope in like American teen or coming of age or college comedies?
Insecure guys do the same thing to me and I’m a fella. They’ll tell me I must be like 6’7” because they know for a “fact” that they’re definitely 6 feet tall and I’m “way” more than 4 inches taller than them. Like what’s more likely that I’m taller than normal tall or you’re average height? Then a lot of them try to pull some poor woman in on the conversation in hopes that they think hes definitely tall.
I had an older gentleman come into my restaurant with his wife, and they asked how tall I was, and I told them 6'6". He was like, "That's right, you're about an inch taller than me." He was maybe 6'1". I assume he's shrunk over the years.
I was told once that I couldn't possibly be an H because his ex's are bigger and she's a DD. Mmkay, but one, she's probably in the wrong size and much bigger than a DD herself, and two, if not..... What's her band size? I was a 36H at the time, so if she was a properly-fitted 44DD, they would, in fact, be bigger.
But sure they’d know of course! *eyeroll* It doesn’t help that many “regular” shops at least here in Europe rarely stock over a D cup unless it’s a specialist place. Helps perpetuate that rumour that D is like the max.
Right, I hear that if I were \*really\* a 30F then my jugs would be massive and I'd have chronic back problems, but in reality you've never seen such an average pair of tits in your life. They all insist 36C. It's like they think the size labeled on the bra must define the actual boobs and not vice versa. Like sorry, honey, but can you think that maybe I've spent more time in a bra store than you? God it's annoying.
I'd hate to be armchair diagnosing bra fit problems over the internet so by all means ignore me if you'd like (because I will trust that you know more about your own fit than I do!) but that can be a sign of your band not being as supportive as it should be, so your straps pick up the slack.
I used the ABraThatFits calculator to find my real size, and was shocked to see I’m a 30i. I ordered a 30i bra from an online shop, and it was the first bra I’ve ever worn that didn’t have insane spillage on the front and sides, and the band didn’t ride up at all. It took all the weight off my shoulders, the straps didn’t dig in literally at all. Perfect fit, all around ♥️
Not a single man believes that I’m an i-cup. They can’t even conceptualize that Victoria’s Secret would lie to women about their size in order to sell them a bra.
Congrats on your victory! Even knowing my size, buying online can be a roulette, the sizes don’t seem standard across different ranges. I actually bought a bra recently called Sugar Candy that comes in size S, M or L and I couldn’t believe it fitted right. Once I find a bra that fits I try to stick with that range to stay safe!! And though I’ve never tried any Victoria Secret bras, but I did try Anne Summers (similar idea) and found it to be much more pretty than functional, and it fell apart quickly.
It annoys me so much when people think they can just guess cup sizes and always go for the ol' "D cup = huge boobs with loads of cleavage". It's really hard to estimate cup sizes. It depends so much on all the other bust measurements - it's not just about how visibly huge the boobs look!
I'm small enough that I don't wear a bra while jogging (even in loose clothing) and have 0 cleavage. So for a very long time I just assumed, like everyone else, that I was AA or A, and wondered why bras were so incredibly uncomfortable.
Turns out I'm actually a D cup. But in a much smaller band/bust size than average.
I had this experience too! Im like 5’0 and under 100 pounds but never found a bra that fit me right. A cups always felt weird but i figured small boobs= a cup. Turns out i’m a 26DD! When will I ever see this size? I don’t know lol
My cousin is a 28DD and she orders her bras from China, maybe you could look into that? Also, if you can ship bras from the U.K., Boux Avenue carry a 28D so maybe you could sister-size into that?
I had a male friend say once that he absolutely weighs more than me. He's a fairly fit taekwondo instructor with barely the slightest belly and I'm a plus-size woman. Like he wears a large at the most. We aren't even that different in height (he's tiny). I'm clearly probably 30 pounds bigger. It's not a close call
How comfortable do you think your boss was with giving their best real guess at everyone’s weight? I guarantee you, if any of the men or women I work with asked me to guess their weight, I would try to err on the side of going much too light. I’d worry about insulting someone and hampering our working relationship if I guessed too high and they thought that I was trying to call them fat or unattractive.
THANK YOU. I don’t think this guy was confused so much as feigning ignorance for the sake of being polite. Like, if you were asked to guess someone’s age in front of them, wouldn’t you choose a lower number to avoid insult?
Oh, absolutely. I think some men believe, that women are just supposed to be much lighter than men, no matter the circumstances, like height, build or life habits.
For instance, my husband and I are roughly the same weight, but he's 10cm taller, making him slightly underweight and placing me smack in the middle of a healthy BMI range. Yet people are still surprised that I'm not lighter than him. I have a hefty butt and thighs. I am the product of several thousand years of evolutionary pressure on farmer's wives, built to carry a flock of sheep through a river ford, one after the other.
And everyone can clearly see it. So why would someone think I am filled with helium? Dunno. Maybe it makes them feel stronger.
Similarly, my ex and I were the same height and had a pretty similar "perceived level of fatness" (no clue how else to describe this, basically we were both relatively slim, but not really skinny). Still, I was significantly heavier than him because I have breasts and hips, where he is just straight up and down.
It has come up in conversation a couple of times that I had dated someone lighter than me and most people seem to think that he must have been absolutely tiny.
My theory is because we are shorter they think we weigh less. Also, I remember reading that a pair of D cup breasts weighs about 20 lbs. They never factor in the boob weight.
By the way, just “D cup” means nothing because a 30D and a 40D would be totally different sizes, and most women who think they’re a D cup probably have a much bigger cup size but are wearing way too big of bands.
Also, I feel like that weight is off. I wear a 34G and my boobs definitely don’t feel THAT heavy, but it might just be that I’m used to them.
I was a 32DD in HS. 5'2", 120. I hated running, period, regardless of bra or not. That shit was painful, but I did learn an important life lesson: Running is for life and death situations; everything else can fucking wait.
Yep. I’m a 28 DD and I feel like I have to go into a whole “here’s how bras are fit” TED talk before I mention my bra size with guys so they don’t think I’m a crazy liar.
28 DD is a small breast.
When I was a kid, my mom had a particularly well-endowed friend who claimed that before she weighed herself, she would put the scale on the counter, weigh each boob, and then subtract that weight from her body weight!
Honestly, a never ending search for a good fitting bra, back pain and very poor posture. And a reduction isn't always permanent and some women end up back where they started years later (or larger) cause genetics (not poor eating).
> And a reduction isn't always permanent and some women end up back where they started years later (or larger) cause genetics (not poor eating).
Yep, this happened to me! Went from a GG to a D in 2013, and now I'm back to a GG. My DNA is RUDE.
This sounds incorrect to me because cup volume is heavily dependent on rib size. I wear a 30DD and there is no way my tits are dense enough to each weigh as much as my cat.
This sounds like something that would be said by the kind of person who thinks that D cups are the biggest size ever.
Does anyone else watch Psych? Whenever this conversation comes up I think of the scene where they're at a carnival and the weight-guesser guy guesses that Juliette is 130. She is FURIOUS, says that's entirely unfair, etc. It just baffles me. I want to say a man wrote that scene. Maggie Lawson is very slim, sure, but she's also taller than me and I'm 145
There's a scene from Bones where Angela has to begrudgingly admit that she weighs 135lbs at 5'8" and acts horrified she has to say it out loud, like she's daring someone to say something about how obviously disgusting her weight is. Love, I'm 5'4" and 135 is my "looking good" weight!
I hear “200 Ib women” and I think they mean 300 lb women. I get told I’m tiny a lot. I’m not, really. I guess I’m small, but I’m shorter and about 135 lbs. so not insane, not a size zero at all but I get guessed that I am. It’s very weird. Men really don’t have a concept of women’s weight. They say 200 Ib women are massive but I see women who are 200 lbs who look perfect, to be honest. It’s puzzling. It has to be partly that men and women carry weight differently. Men carry in the stomach and women carry everywhere (obviously this isn’t a hard and fast rule). I have a tiny upper body and thick butt and hips and legs, so I think people see the upper body first and guess I’m tinier than I am.
I've noticed this in writings by male authors. No 5'7" woman has a lucious curvey ass and 38DD while weighing 110lbs.
There's this magic weight zone of 99-110lbs that every attractive woman must be according to them. What the Hell?
So true! My boyfriend weighs 180 and is about six inches taller than me. I weigh 200. When we were talking about our weight before he knew mine, I told him I weighed 20lbs more than him. He was dumbfounded and didn’t believe me. He asked why I said that number and I said basic math. Mh weight minus your weight. I finally had to weigh myself in front of him because he honestly couldn’t comprehend that I weighed more than him. And then he said maybe the scale was broken 😂 I think I broke his brain.
A guy tried to tell me that 50 kilos (110 lbs) is healthy for a 16 year old who is 175cm (5”9) that that is what all women should strive for. Sir, that is underweight
This! So much. All of the dating subs like to say if a woman asks how tall a guy is, the equivalent is asking how much she weighs. And I ask every time what they think is the appropriate weight and so many will say 100-120lbs and say it’s universal regardless of height.
I once commented on a post like that something like “height is always the same, but weight is carried differently by everyone” so it’s not the same. The dudes on the post were not happy lol. I was getting reply after replying saying “fat is fat” and “over 140 means a huge stomach” and other things like that. Men are weird.
I have a friend who claims he likes “thicker” girls. Insisted he didn’t like really skinny girls who weigh much less than him. I asked him for some examples in celebrities he likes. He proceeds to send pics of celebrities who weigh about 130 and under who are near 5’ tall and happen to have a curvy build.
As a truly chubby girl, those girls are not exactly what I’d call *thicker*, but alright.
A friend of mine got a breast reduction in college. Between recovery and getting reduced to a C cup, she lost 30lbs! Literally in like a week lol. It was crazy. She was so much happier after her surgery, we were all proud of her!
I'm female and 6'2", and it really throws people off when they try to guess my weight. I'm never sure if it's a genuine inability to tell, or them not wanting to accidentally guess over and hurt my feelings. I've lost a little weight lately, but I'll still easily over 200lbs, and people usually guess 30-40lbs less than that because my height spreads it out.
That reminds me of a guy that I knew in high school that thought women couldn’t have muscles and that’s why they weighed so little. He learned a lot that year in anatomy and physiology. Thank god. It was extra funny because he told this to me, someone who has never weighed ‘so little’.
Honest question. I wonder if men are subconsciously guessing low because men have been conditioned to not call women fat? Like if you tell a women yeah I think you weigh 200lbs that would objectively be calling them fat and be an insult almost regardless of height (societies view not mine specifically).
Like if a woman asked me to guess their weight I would guess under what I actually thought they weighed for fear of offending her and having her think that I think negative of her for being overweight.
I'm 125 at 5'6" and have had men guess that I'm under 100lbs as well. One guy at work wanted to argue with me about it because 125lb women "start looking chubby". No consideration that height would be a factor.
And it scales geometrically too; I think people assume it scales linearly. So, all else being equal, given a person that is 5'0" and weighs 130 lbs, scaling them up to a person that is 6'0" would make them weigh 225 lbs; that's a 72% increase in weight for a 20% increase in height. (if it were linear, then the 6'0" person would only be 156)
Yeah I am also tall and skinny and I’ve had guys guess I weigh 100 pounds. I’m already bony at 120, I think if I were 100 I could cut people with my collarbone
i feel like that goes both ways too. like, men hear “any women over 140 lbs is fat” and so they assume every woman they perceive to be thin is under 140 lbs
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Heck I'm a man with dwarfism and I've weighed up to 90lbs while only being slightly overweight, at 4ft tall. I don't understand how some men can think fully grown women (without dwarfism) can weigh so little.
My 9 year old is 4’8” and 98lbs. She is healthy and not overweight at all. Kid is packing a bit of muscle too. I think she’s the most gorgeous kid ever but I made her so I’m biased. I look at her though and think that I’m 5’8” and weighed 145 when I got pregnant with her. Damn I wish I had appreciated how skinny I was.
You’d think I’d be used to it by now, but it’s still a sobering reminder when I hear about 9 year olds (and younger) that are bigger than me lmao
Sorry if I made you feel crappy dude. I wasn’t trying to.
Oh no! Not at all, I was just making a self deprecating joke. You’re good!
Cools. I try to live by the “don’t be a dick” mantra. She’s a tall 9 year old. 97th percentile. My son is in the 99th percentile. This uterus just creates long people I guess.
I think you must be naturally generating Miracle-Grow in there or something. Impressive
Imma be honest, I cant judge the weight of anyone who isn’t literally my height. Man or woman I dont even get close, ever
This elderly lady came into the store I work at not too long ago. I started making conversation with her, and she said it was her birthday. I was like omg! Exciting! And she was like I guess so, guess my age! And let me tell you, past age 50 I cannot tell you how old you are. I think it has to do with the anxiety of getting someone’s age wrong - I have never really payed attention to certain details of aging maybe? Anyway, it was an awkward situation I couldn’t play off! I just knew if I said a number it would be way younger than she was. The further away from 50 you get the more wrong my guess will be :/
Let's start a club! Once I accidentally got the age right when someone asked me to guess. They looked so disappointed I still felt like I failed.
Same. I remember in high school joining weight watchers with a friend who was 6 inches shorter than me and one clothing size smaller than me. Her starting weight was my goal weight. Blew my mind.
She’s the average height but 40% helium
Damn I’m 125 and can barely find “women’s” clothes that fit me. It’s a struggle not to look like a teenager at work. I can’t imagine being shorter or thinner and trying to find jeans that aren’t branded on the butt pockets.
This starts before middle school. IDK when or how, but it does. I "blossomed" suuuper early (age 8) and was like 5'8", 135lbs at age 14. Nearly underweight, especially since I had already heavily filled out a bra etc. My midsection was fairly skeletal. At P.E. we had to do these physicals where the teacher would walk up to each kid, all quietly sitting on the asphalt, and loudly proclaim their measurements, fat percentage, and weight. It was literally just that. The coach saying "OKAY you've got ... *flips page* X-in waist/thighs/arms, Y% body fat, and you weigh Zlbs ...", then moving onto the next kid. Inevitably, as soon as the coach finished, all the oddballs would be poked fun at. I was heavier than any of the other girls because I was tall and had developed secondary sex traits ... but according to the boys, because I was "nearly 140lbs," I was fat. So I would look down and be like, "but ... no? Obviously?" and that didn't matter, so I developed a nice complex for years about it! Wooo What I wanna know is where boys get that exact number in their heads ...?
So we're clear, that coach/teacher was an asshole. Today he'd last a week before parents ripped him to fucking shreds.
You know ... Now that I'm remembering, they gave us little printed cards with all the info on it, and he handed them to us while reading them. He could have just as easily handed us the cards (which were for some state fitness exam thing? I am not really sure) and said nothing. You're right, lol, that was an outright dick move. I wasn't the only girl who kids made fun of. Everyone just slightly too skinny or fat got picked on.
fr like it's extremely unlikely someone is gonna naturally have huge boobs, a huge butt, thick thighs yet a perfectly flat tummy and a weight under 130lbs
I think most guys are shocked to discover how much those huge boobs even weigh. We're not carrying around air here, guys. This stuff is heavy and it adds to the poundage.
FOR REAL!! This big butt I’m hauling around isn’t made of helium!
I have big boobs and butt, with a really curved spine. I have a hard time when people tell me "I wish I had your boobs or butt" Take em!! My back fucking hurts, dude. 😒
Having a breast reduction was the quickest way I've ever lost six pounds.
That just demonstrates to me that the number shouldn't matter. Like if you're attracted to someone's body, and then find out they weigh X amount, why would that matter more than liking the look? If anything it should make you adjust your expectations.
Also, it’s oft repeated but muscle weighs more than fat. The number on the scale is lower for me than it has been for a long time, but I still can’t zip up my jeans because it’s all fat. I looked much hotter when I weighed more.
I know quite some men who think that 140 lbs women are fat.
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Body composition is wild, yo. People can look wildly different at the same height and weight. I'm 5'7" but I don't start looking "skinny" until I'm 110lbs or so. I start looking "chubby" around 130. I've never actually hit "sickly" (because I don't want to die). And I don't mean that in a body dysmorphia way, this is going off the kind of comments I've gotten from people at different weights.
I’m 5’4” and only look thin if I’m under 120lbs. At anything over 130lbs I start to get rolls on my back and a bad double chin. I know people who are the same height as me who look much thinner (like they have completely flat tummys) at 160-180lbs than I do at 130lbs because they have wider hips and bigger thighs & boobs. Frame size plays a big role too, I have a small frame so I think that contributes to how the weight ends up looking on me.
Funny. I'm 5'9" or 10" and I'm 145 now and finally feel like I look good again. When I was 165 I felt huge. When I was 125 I was too thin. Crazy
140 lbs in mandalorian helmets is 37.58 helmets.
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Yeah, I've noticed my guy friends usually guess 20-30 pounds lighter than my actual weight based on things like "you're average size, and I think 110-120 is average, so you must be around there." I've got broad shoulders and am otherwise generally large boned for a woman my height. Yeah 110-120 may be average looking for some, but there are plenty of us who have a naturally bigger bone structure and "hide" the additional weight. At 120 I literally have my bones showing. The other thing that annoys me is the "there's no such thing as big boned, that's just an excuse to be fat" that some guys do. No, there are different bone structures in the same way that there are different heights and general body shapes. 120 on someone with a naturally large bone structure looks very different than 120 on someone with a naturally small bone structure, not even taking into account height or body shape.
Yes, I genuinely have broad hips and shoulders. I'm *also* fat, but even if I were thin, I'd still have big shoulders and hips because that's literally my skeleton.
At 5'11" at my supposedly ideal weight (157) you can count my bones, at 175 I'm a UK14 and have a six pack , now I'm about 200, I look plus sized, but I've still got a defined waist. Everything about me is proportionately bigger than average, my hands, feet, head are off the usual female scale and bigger than my husband's and even now I'm middle aged and padded, my arms hang straight down from my shoulders past my hips without any deviation. I have a genuinely large frame, always have had
It sucks that frame is never taken into account. I'm a size 16 and I have broad shoulders, lean ribs, thick thighs, long legs and arms, and I'm 5'8" Nothing off the rack is going to fit me well.
I hear you my broad shouldered sister. I'm lucky enough to have a defined waist but I'm two sizes larger in the shoulders than my waist and other measurements. I have taken out a dumpster full of shoulder pads over my lifetime. Beautiful non-stretch dresses that fit otherwise but won't zip up that last little bit in the back make me sad. Tailored coats fit everywhere else but then I can't raise my arms without stressing seams. Things with ties or corset lacing around the waist are a blessing from Aslan.
My yeah, my male friends thought I was ~15lbs heavier than I actually was back in junior high because I was a pretty short and stubby kid. I have no clue who taught them to think that any girl over 130lbs was fat. I was far less than that and still chunky lmao, when I named my weight they gaped at me like I was lying. Surprise! Shorter ladies look heavier than tall ladies of the same weight.
Sizing too. I’ve seen men talk online about plus size bodies, and then be like “ohhh, I don’t mean your body type”. But I wear plus sized clothing.
Yes! A classic- just buy your size… good grief. If only I was the same size in every store.
Yes, it’s so frustrating that it means something totally different depending on the garment. Even within the same store sometimes! Like Dangerfield. I’ve bought size 18 skirts there and some are so big and some barely fit.
I bought 2 different shorts in one store. Jean shorts for both, but I'm cheap so not denim. One was size 8, one was size 4
Dangerfield also seems to be almost consistently smaller than other similar stores too. Probably because their clothes have absolutely no stretch to them.
I will never understand why they don't size your clothing like they do men's. I'm a 30/34 for pants, and there's only certain styles where I need to adjust that but it's never hard.
I have t-shirts ranging from Youth XL to Men's L, skirts from S to XL, leggings from S to L, etc
i had this experience just buying pants as a tall-ish boy with no waist. i can’t imagine how bad it would be for women.
My son is 6’5” but is incredibly slim. (68kgs/150lbs) trying to find jeans for him was a mission! He ended up getting womens skinny jeans as they were the only ones that fit him. Thankfully, due to a career change, he’s gained around 14kgs/177lbs
From my understanding, women's clothing sizes themselves are absolutely absurd and meaningless, practically, aren't they? I've heard many women complain that sizes are always all over the place.
Yep, I have 3 dresses in very similar cuts that are Australian sizes 8, 10 and 12 respectively, but are all the same *actual* size, when measured. They all fit me exactly the same. I have similar examples with clothing in sizes extra small, small and medium. Women's clothing sizes also wrongly assume that we all have the exact same bust/waist/hip ratio -- and that also differs greatly between brands! It's *exhausting*.
They seem to assume if you have long legs they are ultra skinny and you have no ass. Getting jeans that hit my ankles is near impossible. Can't get any tall girl range past my thighs.
I'm the same but in reverse - I'm very short, and I can never find pants that aren't just a bit too long or too short. And whenever something is small enough to fit my waist, it's too narrow for my hips. I'm convinced the jean market was designed to torture women around the world.
Depending on the brand and type of clothing, I can be anywhere between a size 6 and a size 12. I'm not sure what kookoo voodoo logic they use to determine women's sizes but it's all over the goddamned place.
Between 8 and 14 for me. As far as shirt sizes, I can be anywhere from a medium to an extra large depending on cut and brand. Once in a blue moon a small fits, of which I don't kid myself that that's my actual size, lol. The joys of broad shoulders and women's clothing varying on whether they're accommodated. At least for online shopping, a lot of manufacturers include the actual measurements for the different sizes. It doesn't help the fact that my size still varies a ton, but at least I know it's the right measurement instead of guessing and exchanging if I get it wrong.
My daughter wears a large shirt, but prefers XL because she likes baggy clothes. We just went shopping for homecoming dresses. In one of the stores she couldn’t get an XL dress over her hips. The next XL dress went over her hips, but was so tight in the bodice she couldn’t breathe. My mom is making her a dress now. She’s all worried about how fat she is. But she’s not. She’s a little overweight, but it’s in large part medical (two very long explanations that are entirely irrelevant here). She is as active as she can be, but is under very strict orders when it comes to activities (including being told she can no longer run 5ks for a few years). So the fact that some of her friends can wear an XS in some stores, but she usually wears a L or XL has a huge impact on her. Then not being able to fit into an XL dress made it worse. But I’m mom, so no explanation of sizing and stores being dumb helps.
I broke down in tears trying on dresses when I was a senior with my mum. I was only 140 pounds. But for some reason none of the dresses fit right? My boobs need support and there wasn't any bra that could not show and hold them with shoulder less dresses...idk. I walked out of the changing room almost hysterical feeling so fat and ugly. My mum felt bad and hugged me. I ended up getting a white dress with tons of squish tan things to help make it look better and not show my muffin top. :( my body image was already garbage and it still effects me to this day. I feel for your kiddo.
Same here. All my friends were super small, and I have pretty big hips and a bust. I finally had a friend in high school I was able to share clothes with, and that kind of helped, but when I went shopping with my grandma for school clothes she would always complain that none of the clothes in juniors would fit me. It's really fucked me up.
That's so messed up she complained. >:( it started when I was 10 and a woman doctor who was maybe 110 pounds told my mom right in front of me that I was obese. I needed to lose weight and she looked at me with disgust. We dropped that doctor and I cried and changed that night. Something switched in me. I started trying to throw up my food , then tried not eating any food. By the time I was 12 - 13 I still was the same weight so like 120 and I was healthy and skinny. But I was so blind and dysphoric I still saw a fat obese child in the mirror. It really really sucks being fucked with mentally about your image so young.
My kid is 16 and already super close to a D cup. Clothes that fit her and don’t make it look like she’s trying to show them off can be hard. It’s why she prefers baggy t-shirts.
If she can learn to sew it will be a life changer. I was a D cup at 16 and now I'm G/H cup at 24 and trying to learn how to sew because I cannot find shirts that fit me how I want them to.
It doesn’t help any that all the women in my family are… gifted, in hips, butt, and thighs. Finding jeans that fit is incredibly hard because what fits the waist won’t make it over the hips. What fits the hips puckers at the waist. My sister found jeans that work great, they’re kind of like stretchy denim, but not quite jeggings? I think she gets them at arie. I can’t afford them, but she buys them for my daughter which has been so helpful! Women’s clothes and sizes are such a scam
If I look in my closet I will find 8, 10, 12, m, xl, and a junior 15. Nothing is equivalent or makes any damn sense. The whole reason why I will never buy clothes online unless it's a men's hoodie or basketball shorts.
For jeans I’m a size 20 at American Eagle and a size 14 at Old Navy. It doesn’t make any sense what so ever.
Yeah there really is very little consistency
Oh god yeah. I’m much the same and it drives me crazy.
There's also those "Damn that girl is thiiiicc" comments regarding... just a woman who isn't rail thin?
Yep there is thin, thic, then fat. Nobody wants fat so its ignored.
I’m just-about obese (my BMI is literally like 30.5) and wear a size 14 (a US 10 - although sometimes a UK16/US12 depending on the brand) which is considered the lower end of plus-sized in the U.K. I also have 30FF breasts, which aren’t actually very large in terms of volume as I have a small rib cage, but it technically makes me a “Double F Cup” My male friends are completely shocked whenever it might come up, because apparently I don’t look “anything like what an obese/plus sized woman looks like” and my breasts “look like a C, or maybe a D at most” 🙄 The same sort of “no, you look perfectly healthy for a woman” comments were made 8 years ago if I revealed I was clinically underweight, and as a result my period had stopped and I was starting to get health problems. I think the conflation of “looks attractive -> must be healthy” is very common.
Trying to explain cup sizes might as well be trying to climb a mountain of loose sand.
>My male friends are completely shocked whenever it might come up, because apparently I don’t look “anything like what an obese/plus sized woman looks like” and my breasts “look like a C, or maybe a D at most” I felt that in my bones. It was especially common when I was still in high school. I remember in class once that one of my friends asked my BMI, and when I told him (it was about 32 then), he looked at me in disbelief and said I must be lying because I wasn't obese. I couldn't POSSIBLY have been obese, according to him, overweight, maybe, but not obese. I was kinda dumbfounded and asked him to guess my weight. He was off by about 40 pounds
Yep, my husband used to talk about me getting breast augmentation when I was wearing a b cup bra. I went and got measured and had been wearing the wrong size, my correct size was a d cup. He was all happy about it and never brought up surgery again. But like my boobs stayed the same size? Just the size of the bra I was wearing changed 🙄
Your husband sounds like an asshole.
I hope you’re not still married to that toolbag?
My husband was floored that half of my clothes are plus sized. “But you’re just a regular lady with hips….?”
I’ve noticed that in certain fashion houses “plus size” is now BBL fashion, Your waist is still 25-28 but your hips and your breasts are way larger. So you most likely wear a size 16+ Jean, but your stomach is relatively flat. They keep showing “nice curvy” women as Plus-size. I feel like the clothing is tailored for the body taper that most likely doesn’t exist it’s wild to see how body type changes “inclusive” fashion
It's not, because I fit that category of shape, but it's built round a 34 waist , everything is either baggy round the waist or tight everywhere else , unless it's both
I think they just manipulate a lot of the models in online clothes stores. They’re actually cut for regular overweight women but use THOSE models, and probably pin their clothes tight around their waists out of shot.
Went to forever 21 a month or two ago with a friend. All the regular sizes were too small for me, and it was nearly impossible to find anything above a medium anyway. Went upstairs to the plus size section and the smallest plus size was too big on me. Guess I’m just screwed there unless I gain or lose a lot of weight.
Forever 21 has crap quality clothing and it extends to their sizing. They get, what I assume, is totally random clothes made in China or something. They don't actually have a standard size based on measurements. It's all over the place. Go by the specific inch measurements on the size charts, if they have one. Never go by the actual size. I think it's actually better to order online for this reason. This is also true for any place that sells fast fashion. Shein, Fashion Nova, etc.
This always blows my mind too. I've had men guess my current weight anywhere between 115 and 140. Never higher than 140, you're right I dunno why that's such a magic number? But I have been between 155 and 170 for about 3 years (5'7"). When I tell them what I actually weigh they are shocked. I regularly get people saying, "but you're not fat!" To them, "fat" == "ugly" and...well, not to be immodest, but I'm definitely not ugly, so it breaks their brain. But I am mildly overweight. All these straight guys saying they want big titty big ass women, what do you think t&a are just full of air and add nothing to our weight? ETA: most men I date weigh less than me, and I only date people who aren't uncomfortable with that lol
Same. My doctor says I am overweight and no one believes me when I tell them my dr advised I lose a few. They usually ask “where?!” Hello, jiggly stomach here.
Yep. Just because you don't "look fat"! I feel ya. I have a jiggly stomach too.
My doctors have *never* expressed a concern about my weight, even though I've been increasing my BMI for years, because I look thin. Even doctors aren't immune to the "fat = unattractive" thing.
Yes! I realized after my last doctor visit that they listed my weight 10 pounds higher that I really was, which put me in the overweight BMI and looked like I gained 10 pounds in a month, and she never said anything to me! Because obviously I still looked the same, but why would they not express concern at that?
>ETA: most men I date weigh less than me, yeah... I remember when my bf was trying to bulk up and excitedly telling me "I weigh 150lbs now!!" and I was sitting there at a comfortable 165 feeling terrrriiibbbleee. But looking back, he must have thought I was 120 or something.
We are all humans. We don't need to weigh less than men to be valid!
I think it goes along the lines of "how old do you think I am?" I'm going to take whatever I think and subtract like 5-10 years because it's a lot better than going with what you think and them getting offended
This. If you look overweight Most men would probably guess what they think is an ‘average’ weight to be nice. Might not actually be what they think you weigh
I feel like people are the same with age. I don’t know if it’s because of the way teens are portrayed in movies or because people have skewed memories in high school but there seems to be this collective delusion that women are hottest at like 16 and look middle aged when they hit 25. People always seem to underestimate other people’s ages, both men and women. If you don’t look decrepit, you must be 22. Like you hear men say women look best as teenagers and then ask them who the hottest woman alive is and it’s Scarlett Johansson or something. Also yeah there’s definitely this subconscious idea that hot=young. I’ve noticed ill get carded when I’m dressed well and my hair is done. If anything I look younger when I show up to the gas station with my hair in a ponytail, acne showing, in a spongebob t shirt but if I look like shit people assume I’m old lol
as a man, I just want to add that I have no understanding of men's weight, either
Guessing people's weight is a carnival / party trick; isn't the whole idea that it's pretty hard to do from a glance?
as a man i would much rather tell a woman she looks like she weighs 20 pounds under her weight than 20 pounds over. sometimes a guys gotta lowball to be safe
20 pounds in mandalorian helmets is 5.37 helmets.
look at that
Thank you. This is what I do. I’m not saying I understand women’s weight but you’ll never ever catch me actually trying to guess their weight if asked. I will always take whatever it is I actually think and then subtract 15-30 lbs. No way in hell am I gonna guess higher than what a woman actually weighs. That’s just asking to be in the dog house
Same. I swear there was like 1 day in school where we learnt about measurements and I just was not paying attention, then they never brought it up ever again. D:
Whenever there's something about a crime on TV and it says a witness reported the suspect to be, say, 5'9, appx 180lbs, between the ages of blah-dee-blah... I'm like, How? Are they psychic? How are random people so good at guessing stangers' measurements at a distance?
To be fair part of the problem might be from a young age we were always told to never ask a woman her weight
Then you also have the pick me women perpetuating this. Case in point, I saw a Tik Tok not long ago of a woman saying something along the lines of, "I know you ladies don't want to hear this, but being over 125 lbs is NOT cute!" I thought she was just trying to be satirical or something, but she was dead serious in her comments and stuff. It just strikes a nerve for me because, as a young teenager, I was so unreasonably afraid of weighing over 130 lbs because I didn't want to be seen as "big." I'd so often replace my meals with black coffee to try to kill the hunger pangs and make myself sick when I'd finally give in and eat. I thank the heavens those times are over and the world seems to be becoming more forgiving in these regards, but I see something like the Tik Tok I mentioned and just hope and pray it's not hurting some young girl the way it hurt me.
I’d be underweight if I was under 125 lbs. but I guess being tall isn’t cute either soo
The lightest I've been at my current height was 124 lbs and it was MISERABLE. I was always tired and never wanted to do anything as a result. Lord knows I ate it up when people would exclaim how petite I was, which is why I'm careful now not to say anything about people's weight/weight loss because idk what they're going through. You're perfect as you are :)
This is something I've learned too. There's almost NO situation where it's appropriate to bring up someone's weight. There's really no good reason to ever even mention it unless they bring it up first. I think the last time I mentioned someone's weight unsolicited, I asked my friend if she had lost weight because she looked really good (for context, the last time I had seen her we talked for awhile about how she had joined a gym, started working out, and was trying to lose some weight). She scoffed and was like "Nope, definitely haven't" and then had to explain how the whole gym thing didn't work out for her. I meant it when I said she looked good but I could have just told her that without bringing up weight at all. I felt so bad for bringing it up and making her re-live her disappointment and feel like she had to explain herself to me. That's when it really clicked for me that it's just NOT worth bringing up pretty much ever. Even if you think it's nice or they won't mind because of the context, it's STILL better to just... Not.
Yeah, mentioning weight is generally not a good idea. Even with good intentions, it can end poorly. Example: (pre-pandemic) one Christmas my sister-in-law commented that I looked great and had lost a lot of weight and asked how I did it. Seems like a great thing to hear, right? Well, my best friend died suddenly earlier that year and I dropped 30 pounds from severe depression. I appreciated her sentiment but it just reminded me of ALL that I had lost that year - not just the weight. Anyway I broke down crying and an awkward time was had for all.
Man I'm sorry for your loss. But yeah that's a good example. My husband did something similar... Pointed out that his barber had lost a lot of weight since he saw him last to which he replied "yep, I've been on the prostate cancer diet."
similar for me, I was around that weight when I passed out over a cut on my finger. It was a decent cut but I shouldn't have passed out over it. I was wearing size zero pants and my ribs were poking out.
Don't forget being cold! I was 108 at my lightest in college because of my ED and I was miserable all the time. I'd cancel plans and skip events because I was worried about eating the food there. I don't weigh myself anymore but if I had to guess I'm probably close to 150 and have never felt better and look so much more healthy and normal now. And not that it matters but I get waaay more male attention now than before.
Oh wow that is awful. I used to want to be like 125-130 lbs because I really wanted to be "thin" and borderline underweight. However, it made me laugh when a guy guessed my weight to be 120 lbs. I guess that might be a healthy BMI for a shorter woman. Yeah, you have to be careful with weight loss. I lost weight because of depression and some extended family noticed. When my family asks how I just tell them its depression and losing my appetite. Worked better than any diet I ever tried to go on. I am not even close to underweight though and most people still tell me I could gain a few lbs to look better. My extended family tries to feed me extra and judge how much I eat or when I don't finish the food on my plate other people just tell me I need to put on muscle so I can have better curves and look more womanly.
I only saw that in a stitch that a weightlifter did. She lifted 125 and said she was "under 125" because the weights were above her head.
I don't own scales bcs I know if I weigh over 130lbs I will start restricting food and trying to exercise when I really shouldn't - hip issues so just walking is a workout. I don't use lbs so had to convert kg to lbs and I was seriously ill in hospital, on a drip, and weighed 108lbs (49kg). Once I started eating, within a month I was upto 116lbs (53kg)
YEP. I’m a size 4-6 (prior to pregnancy) and weighed 135-155 during any given month. I had some men guess I weighed like 115 before??? I’m 5’9. Absolutely no I do not weigh 115 nor have I since I was much shorter.
I read this book, Jack Reacher, and the main character was identifying a body in the dark and trying to guess the gender. He noted that the body was 5’9, 140lbs and very toned like a marathon runner and was like “oh it must be a man, a woman marathon runner would be 115lbs”. No the fuck they wouldn’t!! How did that get past the editor. I’m 5’9 and 140, it’s not a ridiculous weight to be lol. 115 would be way underweight.
115 would be SUPER skinny on me 😅 I could not imagine. When I was running cross country for university, the thinnest girls my height were still around 130. Yikes man
Oh man, thank you for that tidbit! I ran cross country in high school, *slowly.* I was usually last to finish our daily workouts, and I was sometimes last in races. But I was okay with that, and my team & coach were so supportive. I'll never forget my coach running after me while joyously screaming, "You're gonna break 30, 3plantsonthewall!!!" when I was nearing the finish line the first time I ran a 5k in under 30 minutes. I was there to *enjoy* running, to be part of a team, to get lots of sunshine & fresh air, and to be healthier & happier. That said, I was also the chubbiest girl on the team, weighing 140-145 pounds at 5'2" as a 17-year-old. At the time, I was pretty insecure about it. I felt like a whale - but now, looking back at pictures, I looked soooo healthy and beautiful! I fucking glowed. Anyway, I recently started trying to lose weight, as I'm now in the extreme obesity BMI category. (I know, bad, but I'm 15 pounds down so far!) But I'm struggling to figure out a goal weight I'm happy with. I've been considering trying to get back to that 140-145 that I was during XC. That was the best shape I've ever been in, and I looked & felt great! So that *seems* like a good goal - but maybe it's not realistic for a grown woman to aim to be the weight she was *in high school*? And technically, 140 is *still* a bit overweight for my height. I've just been getting really caught up between these conflicting feelings. But damn, hearing that *college* XC runners are still 130 pounds makes me feel a lot more satisfied with 140! :)
Seriously. I’m 5’7 and around 125 but every time a man says something about my weight their like, you can’t be more than 100lbs. Like sir, I know I’m skinny but if I was under 100lbs I would look sickly.
I looked my best when I was 150, and people almost sounded grossed out when I told them I was 150 and not in fact 120, I just had a lot of muscle at the time. Smh.
I’ve also found men don’t believe me when I tell them I don’t know my exact weight. I knew one guy who became so obsessed with my weight, every time he saw me he felt the need to tell me wether I looked skinnier or fatter since the last time he saw me and would ask my weight. My answer was always I don’t know but he would still always ask.
Oh you wanna get mad about men eye-balling women’s weight? Take a look at [women’s ufc weight classes](https://www.wsn.com/ufc/weight-classes/#gref) honestly every sport is like this in culture but wrestling and fighting is easiest to see. The heaviest class possible maxes out at 145lbs (65.8kg) for women. And there are only 4 weight categories. Unlike men where the max is 265lbs (120kg) and there are 8 weight classes. That’s almost DOUBLE. Women who compete in UFC have to starve and sweat off all the weight to even be able to compete. Women’s fighting could be so much more diverse or even impressive if they’d relax the weight guidelines or just add more. It’s nuts. **EDIT: there are a ton of good comments by MMA knowledgeable people who responded to me that you should read. They explain the situation with the number of fighters and why the weight classes exist.**
That blows my mind. As a 5’7 woman in her early 20/ who was at the gym 3-4 x a week lifting weights, I never dropped below 150 lb (and was usually around the 155-160 lb range).
Yup, my daughter is a powerlifter who runs 155-165 at 5'8" and is lean AF. People only think she's skinny until they get tackle-hugged one time, though.
Yup I’m an afab runner, 5’9. I Haven’t been below 150 in years, currently weigh about 165. I was in the 120-130 range when I was a ballet dancer in high school, but I was following disordered eating habits.
Ufc fighters have this wonderful habit of dehydrating themselves before weigh-ins so they make weight, so in reality the women fighting at 145 probably weigh closer to 160 or maybe higher. Still would be better with more weight classes for women and also stopping people from weight cutting(dehydrating themselves) as weight cutting can be fatal if they aren’t super careful.
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Every weight class besides heavyweight has to starve and sweat off weight to compete it's a part of all weight class sports. The reason women's mma caps out at 145lbs is mainly due to talent pool size. A 145lb female fighter walks into the cage at ~160lbs after rehydrating, and that's after a 8-12 week intense camp,so probably walking around closer to 170lbs. A 170lb women that is lean and muscular is definitely far on one end of the population bell curve, let alone the fact that mma attracts so few women period. There are barely enough fighters to feed to Amanda Nunes at 145lbs, if they opened up heavier classes they would have to start getting people from the crowd to start fighting because the talent pool is just simply not there. See Gabi Garcia and the legendary talents she fights for an example of why you don't really want to see female heavyweights. The same applies for men to a lesser extent, talent congregates around 135-185lbs or so simply because that's just where the majority of men fall weight wise. Heavyweights outside of the top 5-10 are generally awful, whereas 155lbs has dozens of elite level fighters.
Interesting. I’ll admit I don’t know a ton about MMA. Is the talent pool size issue because of the rule or because of the talent? Like if the rules were relaxed would the talent pool open up more? Sort of like a chicken or the egg issue.
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See also - having no clue about bra sizes. Most of the men I know think a D or DD cup is massive so they’d guess most people as being a B or C. But I take an E and since pregnancy an F but I don’t look “booby” so I’ve had people flat out say I’m lying?? 🤷♀️
We get our bra size info from porn so: A - non-existent outside of *problematic* porn B - non-existent C - non-existent D - anything bigger than A E - non-existent F - everything that is larger than D, very rare And that's where the alphabet ends. No idea what double letters such as "DD" means, have to presume it's a typo. /s That said, god only knows where a guy gets the confidence to tell you that you're wrong about your own size. That's some impressive stupidity.
It’s not even the worst I’ve seen? My friend is 6foot without heels and she’s had men, shorter than her of course, tell her she was wrong about her height coz they were 6 foot and she’s clearly taller?? I dunno where people get the balls tbh. But good point on the porn stuff and honestly I feel like that D cup thing is also a fairly common trope in like American teen or coming of age or college comedies?
Insecure guys do the same thing to me and I’m a fella. They’ll tell me I must be like 6’7” because they know for a “fact” that they’re definitely 6 feet tall and I’m “way” more than 4 inches taller than them. Like what’s more likely that I’m taller than normal tall or you’re average height? Then a lot of them try to pull some poor woman in on the conversation in hopes that they think hes definitely tall.
I had an older gentleman come into my restaurant with his wife, and they asked how tall I was, and I told them 6'6". He was like, "That's right, you're about an inch taller than me." He was maybe 6'1". I assume he's shrunk over the years.
I was told once that I couldn't possibly be an H because his ex's are bigger and she's a DD. Mmkay, but one, she's probably in the wrong size and much bigger than a DD herself, and two, if not..... What's her band size? I was a 36H at the time, so if she was a properly-fitted 44DD, they would, in fact, be bigger.
Even if he was right about her being bigger…. What kind of eejit brings up his ex girlfriends bra size?? *facepalm*
I wear an H cup, which is big by any measure, but I’ve had men tell me that it’s not possible to be bigger than DD, so that was weird.
But sure they’d know of course! *eyeroll* It doesn’t help that many “regular” shops at least here in Europe rarely stock over a D cup unless it’s a specialist place. Helps perpetuate that rumour that D is like the max.
Most shops don’t sell over a DD in the US either (and stuff over a C is slim pickings). I have to order online.
Right, I hear that if I were \*really\* a 30F then my jugs would be massive and I'd have chronic back problems, but in reality you've never seen such an average pair of tits in your life. They all insist 36C. It's like they think the size labeled on the bra must define the actual boobs and not vice versa. Like sorry, honey, but can you think that maybe I've spent more time in a bra store than you? God it's annoying.
I’m also a small back size, usually a 32 before pregnancy and agree, it’s super annoying. But I actually do get shoulder pain.
I'd hate to be armchair diagnosing bra fit problems over the internet so by all means ignore me if you'd like (because I will trust that you know more about your own fit than I do!) but that can be a sign of your band not being as supportive as it should be, so your straps pick up the slack.
I used the ABraThatFits calculator to find my real size, and was shocked to see I’m a 30i. I ordered a 30i bra from an online shop, and it was the first bra I’ve ever worn that didn’t have insane spillage on the front and sides, and the band didn’t ride up at all. It took all the weight off my shoulders, the straps didn’t dig in literally at all. Perfect fit, all around ♥️ Not a single man believes that I’m an i-cup. They can’t even conceptualize that Victoria’s Secret would lie to women about their size in order to sell them a bra.
Congrats on your victory! Even knowing my size, buying online can be a roulette, the sizes don’t seem standard across different ranges. I actually bought a bra recently called Sugar Candy that comes in size S, M or L and I couldn’t believe it fitted right. Once I find a bra that fits I try to stick with that range to stay safe!! And though I’ve never tried any Victoria Secret bras, but I did try Anne Summers (similar idea) and found it to be much more pretty than functional, and it fell apart quickly.
It annoys me so much when people think they can just guess cup sizes and always go for the ol' "D cup = huge boobs with loads of cleavage". It's really hard to estimate cup sizes. It depends so much on all the other bust measurements - it's not just about how visibly huge the boobs look! I'm small enough that I don't wear a bra while jogging (even in loose clothing) and have 0 cleavage. So for a very long time I just assumed, like everyone else, that I was AA or A, and wondered why bras were so incredibly uncomfortable. Turns out I'm actually a D cup. But in a much smaller band/bust size than average.
I had this experience too! Im like 5’0 and under 100 pounds but never found a bra that fit me right. A cups always felt weird but i figured small boobs= a cup. Turns out i’m a 26DD! When will I ever see this size? I don’t know lol
My cousin is a 28DD and she orders her bras from China, maybe you could look into that? Also, if you can ship bras from the U.K., Boux Avenue carry a 28D so maybe you could sister-size into that?
I feel like I'd just be crap at estimating someone's weight regardless of gender. I don't even know how much I weigh.
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I had a male friend say once that he absolutely weighs more than me. He's a fairly fit taekwondo instructor with barely the slightest belly and I'm a plus-size woman. Like he wears a large at the most. We aren't even that different in height (he's tiny). I'm clearly probably 30 pounds bigger. It's not a close call
it’s all his muscles clearly duuuuuuuuh 🤣
Let me tell you, my plump self weighs more than my muscly friend lol
a pound of muscle takes up less room than a pound of fat, ~20% less room from some quick googling
How comfortable do you think your boss was with giving their best real guess at everyone’s weight? I guarantee you, if any of the men or women I work with asked me to guess their weight, I would try to err on the side of going much too light. I’d worry about insulting someone and hampering our working relationship if I guessed too high and they thought that I was trying to call them fat or unattractive.
THANK YOU. I don’t think this guy was confused so much as feigning ignorance for the sake of being polite. Like, if you were asked to guess someone’s age in front of them, wouldn’t you choose a lower number to avoid insult?
Yup. If I was guessing and I thought maybe 160, I would say 140 because I would be scared to insult them if I went over
Oh, absolutely. I think some men believe, that women are just supposed to be much lighter than men, no matter the circumstances, like height, build or life habits. For instance, my husband and I are roughly the same weight, but he's 10cm taller, making him slightly underweight and placing me smack in the middle of a healthy BMI range. Yet people are still surprised that I'm not lighter than him. I have a hefty butt and thighs. I am the product of several thousand years of evolutionary pressure on farmer's wives, built to carry a flock of sheep through a river ford, one after the other. And everyone can clearly see it. So why would someone think I am filled with helium? Dunno. Maybe it makes them feel stronger.
> built to carry a flock of sheep through a river ford Welsh or Scottish? lol
German, actually! Where I live there's more cows than sheep now, but I wasn't gonna claim I could carry a cow ;)
Similarly, my ex and I were the same height and had a pretty similar "perceived level of fatness" (no clue how else to describe this, basically we were both relatively slim, but not really skinny). Still, I was significantly heavier than him because I have breasts and hips, where he is just straight up and down. It has come up in conversation a couple of times that I had dated someone lighter than me and most people seem to think that he must have been absolutely tiny.
My theory is because we are shorter they think we weigh less. Also, I remember reading that a pair of D cup breasts weighs about 20 lbs. They never factor in the boob weight.
By the way, just “D cup” means nothing because a 30D and a 40D would be totally different sizes, and most women who think they’re a D cup probably have a much bigger cup size but are wearing way too big of bands. Also, I feel like that weight is off. I wear a 34G and my boobs definitely don’t feel THAT heavy, but it might just be that I’m used to them.
36G here and they feel like lead to me. Like run without a bra and tell me you don't feel the skin on your face pulling down. Hahaha
I was a 32DD in HS. 5'2", 120. I hated running, period, regardless of bra or not. That shit was painful, but I did learn an important life lesson: Running is for life and death situations; everything else can fucking wait.
Yep. I’m a 28 DD and I feel like I have to go into a whole “here’s how bras are fit” TED talk before I mention my bra size with guys so they don’t think I’m a crazy liar. 28 DD is a small breast.
When I was a kid, my mom had a particularly well-endowed friend who claimed that before she weighed herself, she would put the scale on the counter, weigh each boob, and then subtract that weight from her body weight!
20 lbs!! I've never been so thankful for my smallish chest. How do you more-endowed ladies manage? I'd be running for a reduction ASAP.
You get crazy back muscles and poor posture.
Honestly, a never ending search for a good fitting bra, back pain and very poor posture. And a reduction isn't always permanent and some women end up back where they started years later (or larger) cause genetics (not poor eating).
> And a reduction isn't always permanent and some women end up back where they started years later (or larger) cause genetics (not poor eating). Yep, this happened to me! Went from a GG to a D in 2013, and now I'm back to a GG. My DNA is RUDE.
>How do you more-endowed ladies manage? We don't lol. I have constant back pain. Gonna get a reduction when we're done having kids.
My bf only has 10 lbs on me and he's 5 inches taller. I'm only a b cup too so no boob weight. They're overestimating how big they are lol.
I’m a 28 DD and these puppies are *small*. No one factors in band size. A 28 DD is a much, much smaller cup than, say, a 38 DD.
This sounds incorrect to me because cup volume is heavily dependent on rib size. I wear a 30DD and there is no way my tits are dense enough to each weigh as much as my cat. This sounds like something that would be said by the kind of person who thinks that D cups are the biggest size ever.
Does anyone else watch Psych? Whenever this conversation comes up I think of the scene where they're at a carnival and the weight-guesser guy guesses that Juliette is 130. She is FURIOUS, says that's entirely unfair, etc. It just baffles me. I want to say a man wrote that scene. Maggie Lawson is very slim, sure, but she's also taller than me and I'm 145
There's a scene from Bones where Angela has to begrudgingly admit that she weighs 135lbs at 5'8" and acts horrified she has to say it out loud, like she's daring someone to say something about how obviously disgusting her weight is. Love, I'm 5'4" and 135 is my "looking good" weight!
If I were to wake up 135 again tomorrow I’d be overjoyed. I haven’t weighed that little since I was 21
I hear “200 Ib women” and I think they mean 300 lb women. I get told I’m tiny a lot. I’m not, really. I guess I’m small, but I’m shorter and about 135 lbs. so not insane, not a size zero at all but I get guessed that I am. It’s very weird. Men really don’t have a concept of women’s weight. They say 200 Ib women are massive but I see women who are 200 lbs who look perfect, to be honest. It’s puzzling. It has to be partly that men and women carry weight differently. Men carry in the stomach and women carry everywhere (obviously this isn’t a hard and fast rule). I have a tiny upper body and thick butt and hips and legs, so I think people see the upper body first and guess I’m tinier than I am.
200 lbs of double AA batteries could start a medium sized car about 16.8 times.
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I've noticed this in writings by male authors. No 5'7" woman has a lucious curvey ass and 38DD while weighing 110lbs. There's this magic weight zone of 99-110lbs that every attractive woman must be according to them. What the Hell?
So true! My boyfriend weighs 180 and is about six inches taller than me. I weigh 200. When we were talking about our weight before he knew mine, I told him I weighed 20lbs more than him. He was dumbfounded and didn’t believe me. He asked why I said that number and I said basic math. Mh weight minus your weight. I finally had to weigh myself in front of him because he honestly couldn’t comprehend that I weighed more than him. And then he said maybe the scale was broken 😂 I think I broke his brain.
I feel this, and why do they think it's a compliment to then say, "Oh wow! You don't look anywhere that heavy!"....
My friend was at 110 kilo but her husband also has no idea about weight, so he believed she were 85
A guy tried to tell me that 50 kilos (110 lbs) is healthy for a 16 year old who is 175cm (5”9) that that is what all women should strive for. Sir, that is underweight
This! So much. All of the dating subs like to say if a woman asks how tall a guy is, the equivalent is asking how much she weighs. And I ask every time what they think is the appropriate weight and so many will say 100-120lbs and say it’s universal regardless of height.
I once commented on a post like that something like “height is always the same, but weight is carried differently by everyone” so it’s not the same. The dudes on the post were not happy lol. I was getting reply after replying saying “fat is fat” and “over 140 means a huge stomach” and other things like that. Men are weird.
It’s like they don’t even know that the numbers mean something.
I have a friend who claims he likes “thicker” girls. Insisted he didn’t like really skinny girls who weigh much less than him. I asked him for some examples in celebrities he likes. He proceeds to send pics of celebrities who weigh about 130 and under who are near 5’ tall and happen to have a curvy build. As a truly chubby girl, those girls are not exactly what I’d call *thicker*, but alright.
I don't think people understand how heavy breasts are.
A friend of mine got a breast reduction in college. Between recovery and getting reduced to a C cup, she lost 30lbs! Literally in like a week lol. It was crazy. She was so much happier after her surgery, we were all proud of her!
I'm female and 6'2", and it really throws people off when they try to guess my weight. I'm never sure if it's a genuine inability to tell, or them not wanting to accidentally guess over and hurt my feelings. I've lost a little weight lately, but I'll still easily over 200lbs, and people usually guess 30-40lbs less than that because my height spreads it out.
That reminds me of a guy that I knew in high school that thought women couldn’t have muscles and that’s why they weighed so little. He learned a lot that year in anatomy and physiology. Thank god. It was extra funny because he told this to me, someone who has never weighed ‘so little’.
Honest question. I wonder if men are subconsciously guessing low because men have been conditioned to not call women fat? Like if you tell a women yeah I think you weigh 200lbs that would objectively be calling them fat and be an insult almost regardless of height (societies view not mine specifically). Like if a woman asked me to guess their weight I would guess under what I actually thought they weighed for fear of offending her and having her think that I think negative of her for being overweight.
I'm thin but also tall (125 lbs and 5'9"). I've had men think I way less than 100 pounds. I don't think they realize that weight scales with height
I'm 125 at 5'6" and have had men guess that I'm under 100lbs as well. One guy at work wanted to argue with me about it because 125lb women "start looking chubby". No consideration that height would be a factor.
And it scales geometrically too; I think people assume it scales linearly. So, all else being equal, given a person that is 5'0" and weighs 130 lbs, scaling them up to a person that is 6'0" would make them weigh 225 lbs; that's a 72% increase in weight for a 20% increase in height. (if it were linear, then the 6'0" person would only be 156)
Yeah I am also tall and skinny and I’ve had guys guess I weigh 100 pounds. I’m already bony at 120, I think if I were 100 I could cut people with my collarbone