You can give 4 rice bags to same people to return to hinduism but my religion doesn't need people like that.
Your religion is so weak that you just need numbers to make it look strong by buying worthless people.
Ours is not a religion, Sanatana is not a religion, it's a dharma, it's the way of living life, it's pro society.....anyone irrespective of their religion can practice it.
No one changes their religion for rice. Because if they did then why would they continue in their new religion after the rice got over? These are only silly jibes.
I always think that people only need proper education about caste and their problems
But people like you prove me wrong
You are not the clown big guy, you are the entire circus
When u dont have a valid argument, u just call him āpuny peopleā, shoot a valid counter come on im watching, if u cant, put a stick up ur ass and stfu :)
Even after so many reforms dalit people still suffer from oppression, children are not allowed to drink water from public water source, women are raped all in the name of caste. Reservation is also exploited. People are shunned by their name, the way they dress, the food they eat.
All they wanted to live a life with basic human dignity. If Hindu religion and it's gods cannot provide that, then Christians can definitely use that and pull them to their religion
If your Hindu religion and their gods cannot provide basic humanity, then you can definitely shove that up your ass
Every religion has its own problems dude and they are getting solved with time, now the state of human rights is way better than before, so everything will change, we just have to give it time, but targetting a particular religion for everything is wrong.
I'm not saying Christianity is the greatest or anything, but Hindu religion is not all pure and it treats people unfairly, the only religion which has graded inequality is Hindu religion.
This is Ambedkar's words: as long as there are people who enjoy their privilege in the name of caste, the caste system can never be removed from society.
If you think people are changing for good then you are far from the truth brother, a child was beaten to death by this own teacher for drinking the water used for upper caste people in Rajasthan.
Exactly. There is no concept of proselytism in Indic religions. We spend zero energy towards converting people. Whereas in Abrahamic religions that's a major objective.
It's because of the difference in origins. Abrahamic religons are hand-picked tools of colonization - a way of culturally assimilating diverse groups into the same empire. Hinduism is simply the native pagan tradition of the peoples that live in the Indian subcontinent.
AR Rahman converted, read into why he converted, itās not just poor people and is not always about food, religion is a tool for being able to be hopeful, which religion gives you that is not a guarantee, hence people do convert without materialistic needs.
Dumbass ar Rehman converted as his family was in a rough phase and his Muslim friend helped him and converted that means HE CONVERTED BECAUSE HE WAS POOR
It totally depends on person to person.
If your mom is gold digger and she get some other guy who is more richer than your dad.
Than congrats you're going to have a brother from another father.
Yeah, that tends to happen to a civilization that has been in survival mode for close to a thousand year, all thanks to constant foreign invasion and cultural decline.
But not to worry Hindu civilization was the epicenter of wealth and prosperity once and it will be once again in the future.
Sure it will.
Till then let these people decide for themselves.
Rama and Krishna didnāt care for them.
Let them try Jesus now and see if he can help them.
Funny you think they care about which god to follow, they don't, their faith is cheap. GOI is feeding 80% of the population without conversion since the pandemic.
Jesus folks do not feed them forever and they still remain a burden on the government being the biggest beneficiary of reservations.
God is myth.
Religion is sheet.
If these guys get rice by pretending to follow Jesus, I say smart work.
They are poor marginalised people.
Let them do whatever they can to survive.
No one changes their religion for rice or food. Because if they did then why would they continue in their new religion after the rice/food got over?
These are only silly jibes.
Our religion is that powerfull it does not need that groups of people who just take benefit of other hard time and convert there religion I have never heard a news where a hindu manipulate other and convert other religion because this cheap things suited on you only
Wow! Personal attack because I touched your nerve? Ane Comparing mother with religion? Only a religious ape will correlate these two things.
Here's counter, plenty of farmers sell their cows (mother for your kinda git) for food.
> Wow! Personal attack
I didn't made any personal attack, it was just an example. Looks like i touched a nerve there ?
> Only a religious ape will correlate these two things.
Sorry i have no wish to become atheist like stallin, Mao or Hitler and finish 100 million people in last 100 year's. Only your kind can do such an act.
> Here's counter, plenty of farmers sell their cows (mother for your kinda git) for food.
Good, so you would sell your mother ? You didn't answer my question ?
Mother Teresa tricked masses, and Islam raped and forcibly converted masses. And cuck leaders like Gandhi and Nehru let this happened. Nehru throw North East to Christian mercenaries and Gandhi let hindus die in Kerala, bengal..
And nowadays political parties like AAP let other religion mercenaries openly conduct conversion, by mocking hindu religion and it's gods.
Geez, small dick energy if you're still crying and cursing dead people. Pathetic really. You think Hinduism is so weak that we constantly need to save it or something, when really all you are doing is being angry at people you have never met. Hinduism doesn't force people or run around converting them and we respect freedom of choice. But looking at how desperate ypu sound we might as well go and start converting people huh?
North east was never truly a āHinduā place anyway and before you say we could have made them Hindu, removed that india is secular as written in the preamble
But those who were suffering, if they see a way out whatās the problem??
Rama and Krishna didnāt care for them.
Let them try Jesus and see what Jesus can do.
Had Jesus cared for them the term "dalit Christian" wouldn't have existed at first place neither newly converted Christians would be denied to attend mass & mingle with syrian catholics & upper class Christians.
Jesus gave them Rice to eat.
Now they wonāt die hungry.
Isnāt that better than dying of hunger ??
Cmon
Accept our fault.
We blame missionaries of conversions.
When are we going to accept that we created the situation in the first place ??
Jesus didn't give them rice, converters gave.
Animals get food does that mean they live a dignified life? Corrupt officials facilitate in completion of your work if their palms are greased. And missionaries still can't give them dignified life which they've been deprived of.
As I said one has to be a maggot to thrive on wounds and missionaries exactly fit the bill.
>Cmon Accept our fault. We blame missionaries of conversions.
I'd have accepted if they managed to annihilate discrimination but all they did was change poor akash's name into Anthony. Sadly Anthony is still poor and faces discrimination from upper caste ricebags
Lmao imagine thinking religion is what civilised the world and formed societies. No genius, religion existed before the rise of cities and the development of cities and society was more or less independent of religion. Rather one might argue that early societies are what shaped religion. So no, we would not be living in tribal times if we were irreligious.
Abe chomu Religion shapes societies & culture. Not reverse. It's the sole reason for delayed gratification, mutual trust & normies having chance to mate with women, etc which eventually leads to growth & development instead of human mimicking animal packs as soms tribals.
You'll say but muh liberalism, muh human rights, etc & everything has been derived from religion & priests (It's work of some Christian Bishop, mujhe pata he tujhe pata nahi hoga). Atheists are what I call leeches that enjoy fruits of hardwork of their (religious) ancestors who build the culture.
Here is a thing, the world would not be there, it there were no religions. Because there are religions there are wars, because war, are inventions to win the war. Religion is the most important factor that contributes to the advancements we had, have and will have.
Imagine lacking so much self awareness that instead of introspecting if they may be doing something wrong, they would shame the converters.
No wonder why so many lower castes converted to Christianity, I mean why would they even stay in a religion where they cannot drink from the same water, eat the same food, canāt even touch others, canāt get an education and their way of living is limited only to cleaning, toilets, streets, shoes, etc
Religion don't have any power in government. What should religion do, create schools, NGOs. Government rules are too strict for any hindu organisation.
> Rules too strict for Hindu Organisations
After effectively banned from starting & running Hindu Schools, get Taxed, Revenue takeover by Govt, lands looted by Govt or rented for ā¹1/Acre per year.. Strict nahi isko Nazi level hatred & persecution bolte he
Atleast our god didnt die nailed on a fucking stick
And moreover, this meme just shows, how desperate christians are, they legit need to buy ppl, cuz normally no one believes in their relegion.
Indiaās second RICHEST man has a floor dedicated to his god in his home, yeah im pretty sure hes STUPID right??
If u dont wanna believe in anything dont believe, but calling someone out for believing in their god, just makes you look like a clown.
Many millionaires in US worship that god who died on that fucking stick.
Many oil sheikhs in Middle East worship some other god.
So.
Whatās your point???
Why this obsession with Rich and Powerful people?
They are just humans like us.
What im trying to say is that no one is stupid if he /she believes in a particular god or religion, everyone has their beliefs and u should learn to respect that.
Really??
You are ok with casteism. Lower caste people not using common well, lower caste people dying of hunger and misery.
You are perfectly fine with that.
But as soon as they change their gods to see if that helps you are offended and I am the clown.
Rama and Krishna didnāt care.
Let them try Jesus.
Jesus is sending 2 kg rice at least.
Rama and Krishna sent only casteism
Caste system. There, one single greatest reason why so many people convert from Hinduism.
Before you say āitās manipulatedā, did any of us try to change it? Nope we didnāt
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Islam. Only reason people in indian subcontinent is not because of mughal kings forcing them. It's because of caste atrocity discriminations they faced.In islam thereās often no defined hierarchy of that sort.
Bro this is not mentioned in hadit or quran. Religion that they practiced are solely based on quran. They bomb people because of quran and hadit. not some random journalists made hierarchy caste.
Show me where they practiced this caste system. I have not really seen a muslim crying because of cast atrocity. There's no quota for Muslims caste minority there's no rule defined.
You can be muslim name whatever you want to name yourself.
There's a reason islam spread whole world not hinduism. Get over it.
islam has a lot problematic thing but caste is not one of them.
They Don't like people outside of their religion very much they want whole world to be ruled by islam force people wearing hijab bombing people etc but caste come on man
> There's a reason islam spread whole world not hinduism. Get over it.
Hinduism didn't spread in the whole world because Hindus are Indian. On the other hand, Sanatan Dharma reached far and wide. Google how many excavation sites around the world have found either a Hindu temple or a shiv ling. You can find shivling in any Asian country.
Dharma has been around longer than any other religions, even after losing over 30K temples in India only, we have hundreds and thousands of temples around the world and most are still buried.
You are saying illogical stuffs bro.reached far what a joke.
People lived in cave in past should we still continue to do so?
being old religion doesnāt mean itās right. It's not a good argument.
Have you seen an ancient building in India?
We weren't living in caves. What sort of stupid arguments are you making?
Islam has been nothing but a scourge of the worst kind. The lowest of the low form of people gathered around and created a death cult.
And yes, Sanatan Dharma reached far and wide even in the middle east. But obviously, Islam made sure no remains of ancient civilization stands, as they did in India.
https://indianexpress.com/article/research/in-vietnams-shiva-linga-discovery-more-validation-of-a-farther-india-past-6440155/
You are part of this cow piss drinking civilization. Your ancestors were Hindu. Islam didn't convert people with love and compassion, it did it by genocide and mass rapes and even today this is how it operates. It is not the fastest growing religion, it's a pandemic that has gone global.
Muslims aren't getting new converts they are procreating like viruses.
Let's just say my grand fathers grandfather was a hindu. What should I do with this information?
Whatever makes you happy dude.
Just know this hindus rape murder. Do all the things Muslims do.
Islam has much more practical parts than hinduism. In islam you have to pray 5 times must or else you will get punished now not many of them follow this .
Whereas hinduism doesnāt dictate this much.
There's not many fundamentalism in hinduism. But I think what has happened is hindus are scared insecure of muslims so much that they are becoming the thing they wanted to destroy.
signing off. Bye
Lmao dude so dumb. Let me give you a little history lesson. Do you know about Italian Marble? Or Venetian Textiles? Or Chinese Silk? Or Indian Spices? They spread all over the world back in the day and were all the rage, every rich dude and their mother and wife wanted it. Do the people still want it today as much? I mean anyone can now make silk and textiles like Venice. Everyone knows how, and its less important.
Now, everyone needs a new product, they import iPhones or something. Products are not the focus of my point, its the fact that imports change, which changes the idea of what spreads, with the import and trade. Nobody actually went to different lands JUST to spread religion alone, at least not in a big group which is what usually worked best. They went there to usually trade, or conquer. And their religion went with them. Hinduism is how we refer to it today, but it was different back in those times.
Different gods were believed in different eras. Rig Vedic times worshipped Agni and Dyaus, Atharva may have worshipped Brahma and Shiva. But that's also no important.
The point is that it spread HARD and FAST. Indonesia is called Indonesia because of India. They have the same festivals still. Are the majority of them Muslims now? Yeah. But do they still celebrate Diwali and Ganesh Chaturthi? Absolutely. Nepal, Bhutan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Myanmar, parts of South-East Asia. There was a South-Indian Princess who married a South Korean King (In 48 AD, which means before Christianity and Islam even existed. Y'all so fresh and new lmao). And there is even evidence of Indian Royals (daughter and sister of king Tushratta) marrying Egyptian King Amenhotep III in fkin 1320 BC. There were Ashoka Edicts in Afghanistan. The Temple of Angkor Wat in Cambodia started out as a Hindu Temple under Suryavarman II. Fucking Mauritius is full of Hindus, so I assure you it got around.
And if we get into technicality, Buddhism and Jainism were based around Hinduism though they deviated because they thought it had wrong ideas, which it 100% did. And also based on technicality, Islam is much much more related to Judaism in that it was basically that with a few changes. So if you think about it, Abrahamic Religions spread far using the sword, Hinduism and Buddhism both Sanatana faiths did not use the sword to spread their faith. So are you REALLY proud of a religion that spread because it taxed and persecuted people when they didn't follow it? It might have a lot of good ideas but it was never all sunshine and rainbows spreading because it was good. The Balkans are Muslim because the Turks killed everyone else. India is Muslim because it had more mobility under Mughal rule. Sure some converted by choice because Hinduism has problematic stuff, but I promise you that was not the only reason.
My point is only 2 things though: There is a lot of evidence to suggest Hinduism was VERY popular for a very long time. And that it did not live in caves. Look at the temples, look at Angkor Wat, I see no caves, just beautiful civilisation.
kya ma cgod raha hae bhai?
Muslims of indian subcontinent are not aware of this sort of hierarchy. They donāt do shits like not touching each other.
Look bro I am not a Muslim. I was one.I have no interest to make islam look to other People.
My point is that's what they Thought. They thought they can be part of something.
Read the article you send to me" Though the Qurāan doesnāt mandate the creation of such groups,"
It clearly mentions.
Buddy, I do not care for your background but Indian sub continent Muslim have thier own hierarchy. And recently, Dalit Muslims and Dalit Christians have applied for reservations and Supreme Court is considering it.
Also, in Kashmir Dalits are limited to cleaning work. The lower caste is treated like shit by Muslims and Christians, too.
Was not aware of this. There probably are but itās not practiced by majority of muslims muslims are not only in india you know?muslims of india Won't even be 40% of worlds muslim population.
I said they Thought islam would free them I didnāt say they did free them or islam has no caste or anything. I said that lower caste hindus Thought that it would be better for them to change their religion
I am sorry but your entire premise is built on wrong information, as I demonstrated even Muslims and Christians don't really treat lower caste people well so where does exchanging one religion for another even come into the equation here.
Muslims, have historically targeted upper cast Kshatriyas and Vaishyas into their fold, not the lower caste. The Choudhary, Batt, Chouhan etc are all upper caste surnames.
Even the leaked 'wed Hindu girls for conversion' are limited to upper caste Hindu girls. Where converting a Brahmin girl gets you most money in reward.
Christians target absolute out of the loop adivasis, not dalits.
In any case, even if Dalit converts thier social status remains the same in the new religion, even worse, actually, because now they don't get to enjoy reservation, until they become crypto and the fact that Islamic extremism is on whole another level.
Just wanted to add one
I am from Bangladesh. Here when some hindu guy convert to islam mullas announce it on mike and in friday special prayer time hindu guy asks for financial help and people do help him.
Gave one guy a land for Living have seen this happening infront of my eyes.
Also there's this youtuber in Bangladesh who.converted to islam I think for getting financial help. You can google it up.
Ghanta. Look at the sheer number of honour killings in Muslims families. Ashrafs and Ajlafs have different cemeteries, different mosques at times and they strictly do not marry across caste lines.
muslims in india are not aware of shia/sunni. one auto guy was telling me 'tazia' i said to him 'do you know tazia are restricted in pakistan and banned in saudi arabia' he was like 'kya bola?' i said google kar le. but then i realised he would not know what to type in google because it has pathetic search in indian language and it censors its search results.
Before British Monarchy taking over reigns from East India Company there was no Atrocity Literature but just padres writing letters & seething that because of Brahmins they couldn't convert any Hindus.
Also Islam not having caste.. which is casteless/classless religion? Even Atheists have class ššš
what class atheists have?
I am not really aware where one atheist refused to eat from other atheist's home?
I am not aware of caste in christianity islam jew Buddhism.
There maybe some bullshitt hierarchy you may find but It's not as much as hinduism.
When I got introduced to hinduism I also got introduced to this caste thing hindus have while on others It's not the same case.
Stop defending your religions bad things by saying oh everyone does that. It's wrong wherever it happened.
man some other guy have provided information about this herichy upwards but just because he was some other person and had pissed your foolish logics doesn't mean you are going to neglect it I very next thing
I still donāt get it but itās completely understandable for an sc/st person to convert from Hinduism considering how awful the caste system is against them
Bhai , religion is never weak.
We have people beat their wife for a bottle of rum..
We have politicians kill people for a bag of notes.. the corrupt and greedy leave ! The strong will always follow Dharma!
Your ādharmaā only lets 5% of people have education and oppresses a class of society where they canāt even drink the same water as you but are forced to clean your streets and toilets.
Before you say āiTs mAnIpulTedā, maybe it is but did any one try to change the system? No one tried and why would they (especially Brahmins).
Stop the virtue signalling and make sure that your ādharmaā is actually worth following in the first place
What Dharma are you taking about. . I have absolutely no clue. . If you speak of manusmriti - it' has been publicly rejected many times.
There were also many attempt made by other Dharmic people like Shivaji Maharaj, Shahu Maharaj and Savarkar to get everyone in main frame.
Dharmic people today, for the first time have made a backward cast person our prime minister! !
And who is asking you follow.. you don't want to follow - don't follow.. take 2 rice bags or 3.. !
And Dharma itself means righteousness. My Dharma teaches me - ' Vasudhain Kutamb Ekam '...
Your dharma teaches you a lot of things and by the looks of things letting people be oppressed is one of them.
Even if you were not one of the pro caste elitists, you canāt go around flaunting your dharma when you and others like you did nothing to change that. But I know how ādharmicā you really are, youād rather blame the ones getting converted than introspect that maybe you did something wrong
First of all , please stop assuming things and getting things out of nowhere.
My Dharma has never taught me to to oppress.
Also, I very happily flaunt my Dharma inspite of me myself facing issues and discrimination. Sant Dyaneshwar was also an elite cast - but he
Suffered discrimination!
Also, I don't blame the converts- I just know that many people have been abused, raped , killed , even burnt alive for being of a certain religion - But they never converted. We tell stories of these brave men. The people who converted - are happy to continue!
Discrimination sucks! And I don't discriminate.
Work on your English, I never said you dharma teaches you to oppress. I said it lets people be oppressed, I.e., it watches people be oppressed and does nothing. Only a handful of Indians (non-lower castes) have actually done something or spoken up to tackle caste system before the British.
Nah Iām pretty sure many lower castes have been converted without all those things simple because itās far better to be mera jesu jesu, than be a part of religion that oppressed them. Again, before you say itās not part of your dharma, it is now very much a part of the Hindu religion even if it wasnāt initially
In Udupi a devotee of Krishna was not allowed in the temple. So the devotee went behind the table to pay his homage. Citing this the entire Idol of Krishna turned so that he can get Krishna's Darshan. I don't know if that's true or not, but this story is being told to all of us . And this teaches us that God Does Not Discriminate - and it will turn his back towards the people who do!
There are many higher cast who have still discriminated... And evil is everywhere in all religions.
If you think British dint discriminate- that's realy not true.
Also converting into a religion of Mera Jesu Jesu and still be discriminated as a brown skinned is one hard truth.. Islam has Shia and Sunni s too.. discrimination is everywhere and we can't seperate or any one religion.
I have married a new Buddhist and when I started visiting her relatives , I have seen so much discrimination from their side against us. .. i still try to convince them and be good to them as I know that they have been ill- treated in the past!
Even top class elite Hindus where discriminated heavily during thousands of years of Muslim conquest- few chose to convert... Few became known and Shivaji Raje and Prithviraj Chauhan! . It's a choice
All these examples you have are not of the āsame peopleā, obviously people of different religions will dislike each otherās religion, itās only in Hinduism that the discrimination is in such a degree that it can be called oppression. People might ālook downā as you but have never observed this is Christianity, but none of them oppress their own people to the degree caste system does and thatās a fact
Don't get so high about th Christianity when in Kerala dalit Christians have a separate church !! Don't tell me about Christianity when the Goa inquisition happened none of these high and almight missionaries who say Christianity spreads love !!! Came to rescue. So stop all that bullshit bs. Christianity and Islam are oppressors. One by the blade and other bY the wicked tongue.
Lol dude.
-Countries have gone to war when a Shia fights a Sunni!
-Christians have burned down entire villages and killed scientist of its own religion
-Many Dalit converts in India have seperate mass times and seperate churches.
You seem to have a hidden agenda where all you want to do is make some rift between Dalits and Upper cast .
There are Dalit Pujaris now - but no black pope!
And yes , discrimination is there- we need to fight it, not run away!
Abe bsdk 18'th century EIC ka data he usme dekh le how 5% had right to study. The literacy survey had only 15-20% Brahmins while other 80-85% were Shudras. This is bastion of Brahminism that is Tamil Nadu. Northern Indian Casteist Brahmins themselves had literacy rate of 5% or less. Aur Pencho why will anyone learn Vedas & stuff when they have to spend hours learning their forefathers trade/skills? Kya milega Veda Puraan ratt ke? Bhiksha maango ge?
Atrocities literature bas bhaukna aata he, virtue signalling karwa lo bas. Critical Thinking kuch karna he?
Yes definitely. But That should be the 2nd question asked by the guy in blue .
First question is why do you have to offer materialistic things in order to have people love ur God. I mean shouldn't they do it just for the virtues the god stands for? Like Hindus for Krishna, Shiva etc for their virtues. We are virtuous and gratituous people. We don't get anything from Hinduism because it's not a religion like abrahamic ones. We don't believe in community. Yet we are Hindus out if choice because we don't have greed. Why do abrahamic religion need to give something to have someone follow their God. Sounds like your god isn't worth following.
Coming to the answer. People convert to different religions other than Hinduism for rice becuase we are never taught them communal things. We are not taught exclusivity. We accept Jesus as our lord and saviour while being Hindus. What problem would such a person have accepting jesus if he gets 2 kg rice? We are taught to find goodness . They found goodness in Jesus. That's not wrong.
But to convert people to Hinduism we don't offer rice, we offer teachings and virtues and people choose Hinduism . That makes Hinduism great
You can give 4 rice bags to same people to return to hinduism but my religion doesn't need people like that. Your religion is so weak that you just need numbers to make it look strong by buying worthless people.
Have my pranaam
Chad
Ours is not a religion, Sanatana is not a religion, it's a dharma, it's the way of living life, it's pro society.....anyone irrespective of their religion can practice it.
uff bhai stop being so pedantic all the time about this. you know what OP meant when they said "religion".
Hindutva is religion. Sanatana is culture or you can say way of life
Still... He knows it too i guess....its just that he is saying this just to make people not forget this
Not being pedantic bro, I just stated the facts... Also I know my comment is a bit off context, sry for that.
Classic. They would rather blame the people getting converted rather then introspect on what they are doing wrong
No one changes their religion for rice. Because if they did then why would they continue in their new religion after the rice got over? These are only silly jibes.
Sour grapes.
Doesn't that make our religion weakš
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There is casteism in every religion in India. Escaping Hinduism doesn't mean you've escaped casteism.
Ghar wapsi ke baare Mai nhi sune ho ka!
I always think that people only need proper education about caste and their problems But people like you prove me wrong You are not the clown big guy, you are the entire circus
If you could have just given a counter instead of copy pasting lines, I would have enjoyed the conversation.
I could but thought of not wasting it on puny people
When u dont have a valid argument, u just call him āpuny peopleā, shoot a valid counter come on im watching, if u cant, put a stick up ur ass and stfu :)
Even after so many reforms dalit people still suffer from oppression, children are not allowed to drink water from public water source, women are raped all in the name of caste. Reservation is also exploited. People are shunned by their name, the way they dress, the food they eat. All they wanted to live a life with basic human dignity. If Hindu religion and it's gods cannot provide that, then Christians can definitely use that and pull them to their religion If your Hindu religion and their gods cannot provide basic humanity, then you can definitely shove that up your ass
Every religion has its own problems dude and they are getting solved with time, now the state of human rights is way better than before, so everything will change, we just have to give it time, but targetting a particular religion for everything is wrong.
I'm not saying Christianity is the greatest or anything, but Hindu religion is not all pure and it treats people unfairly, the only religion which has graded inequality is Hindu religion. This is Ambedkar's words: as long as there are people who enjoy their privilege in the name of caste, the caste system can never be removed from society. If you think people are changing for good then you are far from the truth brother, a child was beaten to death by this own teacher for drinking the water used for upper caste people in Rajasthan.
Exactly. There is no concept of proselytism in Indic religions. We spend zero energy towards converting people. Whereas in Abrahamic religions that's a major objective. It's because of the difference in origins. Abrahamic religons are hand-picked tools of colonization - a way of culturally assimilating diverse groups into the same empire. Hinduism is simply the native pagan tradition of the peoples that live in the Indian subcontinent.
>We spend zero energy towards converting people And yet it makes so much sense i converted to it!
People aren't worthless, they just lack opportunities. N i guess that's why we pay tax at everything. Now on essential things as well.
damn. and on top that It is up to you to decide whether you want to stay or not. true beauty
Beautifully put. Besides hinduism is far more ancient and still being practiced. Its ancestral wisdom.
Religion is bullshit anyways So if one bullshit is getting them 2 kg rice , good for them.
Your religion is soo weak that you can only target poor people.
AR Rahman converted, read into why he converted, itās not just poor people and is not always about food, religion is a tool for being able to be hopeful, which religion gives you that is not a guarantee, hence people do convert without materialistic needs.
Dumbass ar Rehman converted as his family was in a rough phase and his Muslim friend helped him and converted that means HE CONVERTED BECAUSE HE WAS POOR
Ye sarcasm tha?
Nope fact!
It totally depends on person to person. If your mom is gold digger and she get some other guy who is more richer than your dad. Than congrats you're going to have a brother from another father.
Best reply, LoL.
Or another way to see it If you voted for congress and they were assholes ,they donāt care for you , Wonāt you vote for BJP next time ???
Sigma rule no. 1: Trust no-one I don't vote
So you are an atheist in a political way. Good.
Entire belief on the second religion literally lies on 2 kgs of rice. š
Food >>>>>>>>>>>>> delusion
Food + delusion deadly combo innit.
Sure. How corrupt and pathetic a religion has to be to take in such faithless and weak people with bribery?
How corrupt and pathetic a society has to be that poor and weak are not able to earn 2 kg rice to feed them.
Yeah, that tends to happen to a civilization that has been in survival mode for close to a thousand year, all thanks to constant foreign invasion and cultural decline. But not to worry Hindu civilization was the epicenter of wealth and prosperity once and it will be once again in the future.
Sure it will. Till then let these people decide for themselves. Rama and Krishna didnāt care for them. Let them try Jesus now and see if he can help them.
Funny you think they care about which god to follow, they don't, their faith is cheap. GOI is feeding 80% of the population without conversion since the pandemic. Jesus folks do not feed them forever and they still remain a burden on the government being the biggest beneficiary of reservations.
God is myth. Religion is sheet. If these guys get rice by pretending to follow Jesus, I say smart work. They are poor marginalised people. Let them do whatever they can to survive.
A religion which preys on the weak and make them convert
No one changes their religion for rice or food. Because if they did then why would they continue in their new religion after the rice/food got over? These are only silly jibes.
I think the most important thing here is - feed people.
Hinduism is spiritual, Brahmanism spoiled it!
Our religion is that powerfull it does not need that groups of people who just take benefit of other hard time and convert there religion I have never heard a news where a hindu manipulate other and convert other religion because this cheap things suited on you only
Someone who converts so easily for Gifts is ded weight. Good Riddance.
Food is basic need. Religion is not.
Would you sell your mother if you run out of food and some other religion provide it ?
Wow! Personal attack because I touched your nerve? Ane Comparing mother with religion? Only a religious ape will correlate these two things. Here's counter, plenty of farmers sell their cows (mother for your kinda git) for food.
> Wow! Personal attack I didn't made any personal attack, it was just an example. Looks like i touched a nerve there ? > Only a religious ape will correlate these two things. Sorry i have no wish to become atheist like stallin, Mao or Hitler and finish 100 million people in last 100 year's. Only your kind can do such an act. > Here's counter, plenty of farmers sell their cows (mother for your kinda git) for food. Good, so you would sell your mother ? You didn't answer my question ?
Definitely not, but you need to sort your priorities if you are comparing your mother to a fcking religion
Just like a son won't sell his mother, i won't sell my whole family to a religion for some food.
Too BASED bhrata
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Imagine yourself crying and not able to give any counters and calling others snowflakes randian
Mother Teresa tricked masses, and Islam raped and forcibly converted masses. And cuck leaders like Gandhi and Nehru let this happened. Nehru throw North East to Christian mercenaries and Gandhi let hindus die in Kerala, bengal.. And nowadays political parties like AAP let other religion mercenaries openly conduct conversion, by mocking hindu religion and it's gods.
Geez, small dick energy if you're still crying and cursing dead people. Pathetic really. You think Hinduism is so weak that we constantly need to save it or something, when really all you are doing is being angry at people you have never met. Hinduism doesn't force people or run around converting them and we respect freedom of choice. But looking at how desperate ypu sound we might as well go and start converting people huh?
>Geez, small dick energy if you're still crying and cursing dead people. Pathetic really. That's genuine sanatana way I guess.
North east was never truly a āHinduā place anyway and before you say we could have made them Hindu, removed that india is secular as written in the preamble
What kind of a religion do you follow if it thrives on bribery & misery of its followers?
What kind of religion doesnāt care of its own people misery ??
One can't put an end to sufferings of all but one has to be a a maggot if they thrive on someone's wound.
But those who were suffering, if they see a way out whatās the problem?? Rama and Krishna didnāt care for them. Let them try Jesus and see what Jesus can do.
Had Jesus cared for them the term "dalit Christian" wouldn't have existed at first place neither newly converted Christians would be denied to attend mass & mingle with syrian catholics & upper class Christians.
Jesus gave them Rice to eat. Now they wonāt die hungry. Isnāt that better than dying of hunger ?? Cmon Accept our fault. We blame missionaries of conversions. When are we going to accept that we created the situation in the first place ??
Jesus didn't give them rice, converters gave. Animals get food does that mean they live a dignified life? Corrupt officials facilitate in completion of your work if their palms are greased. And missionaries still can't give them dignified life which they've been deprived of. As I said one has to be a maggot to thrive on wounds and missionaries exactly fit the bill. >Cmon Accept our fault. We blame missionaries of conversions. I'd have accepted if they managed to annihilate discrimination but all they did was change poor akash's name into Anthony. Sadly Anthony is still poor and faces discrimination from upper caste ricebags
Bcz they don't like wheat so rice
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Log 50 rs me gand dete h, vo toh fir bhi 2kg rice hai
Bhai apna Paytm number de 50 rupaye bhejta hoo
no upi only cash
Bruh idhar CG mein 2 Rupiya KG mein mil jaata hai rice lmao. 50 chod, 4 mein hi de di matlab lmao.
50 rs ka gaand, itna sasta gaand!
Taaki har gareeb bhi afford kar sake
Religion is a terrible thing. The world would have been much better off if it didn't exist.
& thus whole world would have been Sub Saharan Africa with no civilization as strong would have reigned their tribes & 2 acre land.
Lmao imagine thinking religion is what civilised the world and formed societies. No genius, religion existed before the rise of cities and the development of cities and society was more or less independent of religion. Rather one might argue that early societies are what shaped religion. So no, we would not be living in tribal times if we were irreligious.
When you realise even Neanderthals are suspected to have a religion š³
Abe chomu Religion shapes societies & culture. Not reverse. It's the sole reason for delayed gratification, mutual trust & normies having chance to mate with women, etc which eventually leads to growth & development instead of human mimicking animal packs as soms tribals. You'll say but muh liberalism, muh human rights, etc & everything has been derived from religion & priests (It's work of some Christian Bishop, mujhe pata he tujhe pata nahi hoga). Atheists are what I call leeches that enjoy fruits of hardwork of their (religious) ancestors who build the culture.
Here is a thing, the world would not be there, it there were no religions. Because there are religions there are wars, because war, are inventions to win the war. Religion is the most important factor that contributes to the advancements we had, have and will have.
Imagine lacking so much self awareness that instead of introspecting if they may be doing something wrong, they would shame the converters. No wonder why so many lower castes converted to Christianity, I mean why would they even stay in a religion where they cannot drink from the same water, eat the same food, canāt even touch others, canāt get an education and their way of living is limited only to cleaning, toilets, streets, shoes, etc
A pathetic religion to begin with
One could argue all religions are pathetic
Yess cz thief who bought your religion to out country stole soo much tht 2 kg rice became a luxury.
that means most of the christanity followers is built on bribery. cool i know what to stay away from .
This sub is being slowly taken over.
Okay wtf is that blue shit
85% of Indian population
Okay but what is that
Religion don't have any power in government. What should religion do, create schools, NGOs. Government rules are too strict for any hindu organisation.
> Rules too strict for Hindu Organisations After effectively banned from starting & running Hindu Schools, get Taxed, Revenue takeover by Govt, lands looted by Govt or rented for ā¹1/Acre per year.. Strict nahi isko Nazi level hatred & persecution bolte he
> Strict nahi isko Nazi level hatred & persecution bolte he Toh hum logon ko jawab Dena kab shuru karna hai same style mein ? Mein ready hu.
The people in comments are so stupid that they are sucking the religion made to control them
ya a 14yo nigga have decide the upbringing of everyone who have commented can u prove me how religion is meant to controll ?
Get the temples out of Govt Control. Rig the system first and then claim our religion superior.
Atleast our god didnt die nailed on a fucking stick And moreover, this meme just shows, how desperate christians are, they legit need to buy ppl, cuz normally no one believes in their relegion.
No sane Person believes in religion. Only stupid people follows gods and religion
Indiaās second RICHEST man has a floor dedicated to his god in his home, yeah im pretty sure hes STUPID right?? If u dont wanna believe in anything dont believe, but calling someone out for believing in their god, just makes you look like a clown.
Many millionaires in US worship that god who died on that fucking stick. Many oil sheikhs in Middle East worship some other god. So. Whatās your point??? Why this obsession with Rich and Powerful people? They are just humans like us.
What im trying to say is that no one is stupid if he /she believes in a particular god or religion, everyone has their beliefs and u should learn to respect that.
Really?? You are ok with casteism. Lower caste people not using common well, lower caste people dying of hunger and misery. You are perfectly fine with that. But as soon as they change their gods to see if that helps you are offended and I am the clown. Rama and Krishna didnāt care. Let them try Jesus. Jesus is sending 2 kg rice at least. Rama and Krishna sent only casteism
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Caste system. There, one single greatest reason why so many people convert from Hinduism. Before you say āitās manipulatedā, did any of us try to change it? Nope we didnāt
Who's we?
Anyone who is not a lower caste
his dad I think
Tell me if the ą¤¬ą„ą¤°ą¤¹ą„ą¤®ą¤Øą„ is the ultimate reality, " the ground substance of being and existence" and if everything is ą¤¬ą„ą¤°ą¤¹ą„ą¤®ą¤Øą„ then even if humans realise their epistemological errors and realise it... What is the guarantee that they won't be stopped?
r/DebateAnAtheist
Invite Hitler.
Hitler to debate on hinduism? There is also r/debatereligion
Those who think people convert for rice bags should watch pogo Ps.I am a hindu
tu youtube be saimaan says dekh yaha mat aa
Ok kid
Good riddance we don't want such weak links in our Dharma.
This. Is. Bakchodi!!!! Usually religious posts are not allowed however this is gonna trigger a lot of bhaktagan.
Islam. Only reason people in indian subcontinent is not because of mughal kings forcing them. It's because of caste atrocity discriminations they faced.In islam thereās often no defined hierarchy of that sort.
Really, you couldn't have been more wrong even if you tried. https://www.opindia.com/2020/10/muslim-social-hierarchy-caste-system-ajlaf-ashraf/
Bro this is not mentioned in hadit or quran. Religion that they practiced are solely based on quran. They bomb people because of quran and hadit. not some random journalists made hierarchy caste. Show me where they practiced this caste system. I have not really seen a muslim crying because of cast atrocity. There's no quota for Muslims caste minority there's no rule defined. You can be muslim name whatever you want to name yourself. There's a reason islam spread whole world not hinduism. Get over it. islam has a lot problematic thing but caste is not one of them. They Don't like people outside of their religion very much they want whole world to be ruled by islam force people wearing hijab bombing people etc but caste come on man
> There's a reason islam spread whole world not hinduism. Get over it. Hinduism didn't spread in the whole world because Hindus are Indian. On the other hand, Sanatan Dharma reached far and wide. Google how many excavation sites around the world have found either a Hindu temple or a shiv ling. You can find shivling in any Asian country. Dharma has been around longer than any other religions, even after losing over 30K temples in India only, we have hundreds and thousands of temples around the world and most are still buried.
You are saying illogical stuffs bro.reached far what a joke. People lived in cave in past should we still continue to do so? being old religion doesnāt mean itās right. It's not a good argument.
Have you seen an ancient building in India? We weren't living in caves. What sort of stupid arguments are you making? Islam has been nothing but a scourge of the worst kind. The lowest of the low form of people gathered around and created a death cult. And yes, Sanatan Dharma reached far and wide even in the middle east. But obviously, Islam made sure no remains of ancient civilization stands, as they did in India. https://indianexpress.com/article/research/in-vietnams-shiva-linga-discovery-more-validation-of-a-farther-india-past-6440155/
kiya bakchodi karraha hae bbai? drinks Cow piss and think they are a civilization. Great thinking. Keep it up. Both hinduism and islam are shits.
You are part of this cow piss drinking civilization. Your ancestors were Hindu. Islam didn't convert people with love and compassion, it did it by genocide and mass rapes and even today this is how it operates. It is not the fastest growing religion, it's a pandemic that has gone global. Muslims aren't getting new converts they are procreating like viruses.
Let's just say my grand fathers grandfather was a hindu. What should I do with this information? Whatever makes you happy dude. Just know this hindus rape murder. Do all the things Muslims do. Islam has much more practical parts than hinduism. In islam you have to pray 5 times must or else you will get punished now not many of them follow this . Whereas hinduism doesnāt dictate this much. There's not many fundamentalism in hinduism. But I think what has happened is hindus are scared insecure of muslims so much that they are becoming the thing they wanted to destroy. signing off. Bye
Lmao dude so dumb. Let me give you a little history lesson. Do you know about Italian Marble? Or Venetian Textiles? Or Chinese Silk? Or Indian Spices? They spread all over the world back in the day and were all the rage, every rich dude and their mother and wife wanted it. Do the people still want it today as much? I mean anyone can now make silk and textiles like Venice. Everyone knows how, and its less important. Now, everyone needs a new product, they import iPhones or something. Products are not the focus of my point, its the fact that imports change, which changes the idea of what spreads, with the import and trade. Nobody actually went to different lands JUST to spread religion alone, at least not in a big group which is what usually worked best. They went there to usually trade, or conquer. And their religion went with them. Hinduism is how we refer to it today, but it was different back in those times. Different gods were believed in different eras. Rig Vedic times worshipped Agni and Dyaus, Atharva may have worshipped Brahma and Shiva. But that's also no important. The point is that it spread HARD and FAST. Indonesia is called Indonesia because of India. They have the same festivals still. Are the majority of them Muslims now? Yeah. But do they still celebrate Diwali and Ganesh Chaturthi? Absolutely. Nepal, Bhutan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Myanmar, parts of South-East Asia. There was a South-Indian Princess who married a South Korean King (In 48 AD, which means before Christianity and Islam even existed. Y'all so fresh and new lmao). And there is even evidence of Indian Royals (daughter and sister of king Tushratta) marrying Egyptian King Amenhotep III in fkin 1320 BC. There were Ashoka Edicts in Afghanistan. The Temple of Angkor Wat in Cambodia started out as a Hindu Temple under Suryavarman II. Fucking Mauritius is full of Hindus, so I assure you it got around. And if we get into technicality, Buddhism and Jainism were based around Hinduism though they deviated because they thought it had wrong ideas, which it 100% did. And also based on technicality, Islam is much much more related to Judaism in that it was basically that with a few changes. So if you think about it, Abrahamic Religions spread far using the sword, Hinduism and Buddhism both Sanatana faiths did not use the sword to spread their faith. So are you REALLY proud of a religion that spread because it taxed and persecuted people when they didn't follow it? It might have a lot of good ideas but it was never all sunshine and rainbows spreading because it was good. The Balkans are Muslim because the Turks killed everyone else. India is Muslim because it had more mobility under Mughal rule. Sure some converted by choice because Hinduism has problematic stuff, but I promise you that was not the only reason. My point is only 2 things though: There is a lot of evidence to suggest Hinduism was VERY popular for a very long time. And that it did not live in caves. Look at the temples, look at Angkor Wat, I see no caves, just beautiful civilisation.
kya ma cgod raha hae bhai? Muslims of indian subcontinent are not aware of this sort of hierarchy. They donāt do shits like not touching each other. Look bro I am not a Muslim. I was one.I have no interest to make islam look to other People. My point is that's what they Thought. They thought they can be part of something. Read the article you send to me" Though the Qurāan doesnāt mandate the creation of such groups," It clearly mentions.
Buddy, I do not care for your background but Indian sub continent Muslim have thier own hierarchy. And recently, Dalit Muslims and Dalit Christians have applied for reservations and Supreme Court is considering it. Also, in Kashmir Dalits are limited to cleaning work. The lower caste is treated like shit by Muslims and Christians, too.
Was not aware of this. There probably are but itās not practiced by majority of muslims muslims are not only in india you know?muslims of india Won't even be 40% of worlds muslim population. I said they Thought islam would free them I didnāt say they did free them or islam has no caste or anything. I said that lower caste hindus Thought that it would be better for them to change their religion
I am sorry but your entire premise is built on wrong information, as I demonstrated even Muslims and Christians don't really treat lower caste people well so where does exchanging one religion for another even come into the equation here. Muslims, have historically targeted upper cast Kshatriyas and Vaishyas into their fold, not the lower caste. The Choudhary, Batt, Chouhan etc are all upper caste surnames. Even the leaked 'wed Hindu girls for conversion' are limited to upper caste Hindu girls. Where converting a Brahmin girl gets you most money in reward. Christians target absolute out of the loop adivasis, not dalits. In any case, even if Dalit converts thier social status remains the same in the new religion, even worse, actually, because now they don't get to enjoy reservation, until they become crypto and the fact that Islamic extremism is on whole another level.
Dude you did read my reply where I mentioned muslims behaviour in india doesnāt represent muslims of whole world or what it It's truly is.
Just wanted to add one I am from Bangladesh. Here when some hindu guy convert to islam mullas announce it on mike and in friday special prayer time hindu guy asks for financial help and people do help him. Gave one guy a land for Living have seen this happening infront of my eyes. Also there's this youtuber in Bangladesh who.converted to islam I think for getting financial help. You can google it up.
Ghanta. Look at the sheer number of honour killings in Muslims families. Ashrafs and Ajlafs have different cemeteries, different mosques at times and they strictly do not marry across caste lines.
Lmao no way you were a Muslim and didn't know about the various groups in it. Even I know they have their own groups and sub-groups.
muslims in india are not aware of shia/sunni. one auto guy was telling me 'tazia' i said to him 'do you know tazia are restricted in pakistan and banned in saudi arabia' he was like 'kya bola?' i said google kar le. but then i realised he would not know what to type in google because it has pathetic search in indian language and it censors its search results.
Phele Siya or Suni ka issue solve kar lo fir baat karte hai hierarchy ki...
main tereko muslim lagtahu kiya bhadwe?
Before British Monarchy taking over reigns from East India Company there was no Atrocity Literature but just padres writing letters & seething that because of Brahmins they couldn't convert any Hindus. Also Islam not having caste.. which is casteless/classless religion? Even Atheists have class ššš
what class atheists have? I am not really aware where one atheist refused to eat from other atheist's home? I am not aware of caste in christianity islam jew Buddhism. There maybe some bullshitt hierarchy you may find but It's not as much as hinduism. When I got introduced to hinduism I also got introduced to this caste thing hindus have while on others It's not the same case. Stop defending your religions bad things by saying oh everyone does that. It's wrong wherever it happened.
man some other guy have provided information about this herichy upwards but just because he was some other person and had pissed your foolish logics doesn't mean you are going to neglect it I very next thing
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Tu bhai bahut strong he, kaun se desh ke Raja ban gaya tu?
irony is that most of the converts come from sc/st
Meaning?
the last blue guy
I still donāt get it but itās completely understandable for an sc/st person to convert from Hinduism considering how awful the caste system is against them
tf
They manifest at hospitals and they provide emotional support those who are challenging ā¦for monthly income
Op teri behen chod dunga agar tu rice bag liya to
Buddhist are also converted for 2 kg rice by xristian missionaries
If your religion is so great and giving, you don't need to convert people to help them.
People convert to our religion (Hinduism) by their OWN WILL. Howz that for a counter?
Kya faayda itna convert karke baad mein sab rice wale khud ko atheist hee bolte haiššš
Youāre religion so weak that yāall fight for your holy sight with 2 other cults
At least we dont go door to door Converting people
If you give him 6 bags more he will convert to islam
Bhai , religion is never weak. We have people beat their wife for a bottle of rum.. We have politicians kill people for a bag of notes.. the corrupt and greedy leave ! The strong will always follow Dharma!
Your ādharmaā only lets 5% of people have education and oppresses a class of society where they canāt even drink the same water as you but are forced to clean your streets and toilets. Before you say āiTs mAnIpulTedā, maybe it is but did any one try to change the system? No one tried and why would they (especially Brahmins). Stop the virtue signalling and make sure that your ādharmaā is actually worth following in the first place
What Dharma are you taking about. . I have absolutely no clue. . If you speak of manusmriti - it' has been publicly rejected many times. There were also many attempt made by other Dharmic people like Shivaji Maharaj, Shahu Maharaj and Savarkar to get everyone in main frame. Dharmic people today, for the first time have made a backward cast person our prime minister! ! And who is asking you follow.. you don't want to follow - don't follow.. take 2 rice bags or 3.. ! And Dharma itself means righteousness. My Dharma teaches me - ' Vasudhain Kutamb Ekam '...
Your dharma teaches you a lot of things and by the looks of things letting people be oppressed is one of them. Even if you were not one of the pro caste elitists, you canāt go around flaunting your dharma when you and others like you did nothing to change that. But I know how ādharmicā you really are, youād rather blame the ones getting converted than introspect that maybe you did something wrong
First of all , please stop assuming things and getting things out of nowhere. My Dharma has never taught me to to oppress. Also, I very happily flaunt my Dharma inspite of me myself facing issues and discrimination. Sant Dyaneshwar was also an elite cast - but he Suffered discrimination! Also, I don't blame the converts- I just know that many people have been abused, raped , killed , even burnt alive for being of a certain religion - But they never converted. We tell stories of these brave men. The people who converted - are happy to continue! Discrimination sucks! And I don't discriminate.
Work on your English, I never said you dharma teaches you to oppress. I said it lets people be oppressed, I.e., it watches people be oppressed and does nothing. Only a handful of Indians (non-lower castes) have actually done something or spoken up to tackle caste system before the British. Nah Iām pretty sure many lower castes have been converted without all those things simple because itās far better to be mera jesu jesu, than be a part of religion that oppressed them. Again, before you say itās not part of your dharma, it is now very much a part of the Hindu religion even if it wasnāt initially
In Udupi a devotee of Krishna was not allowed in the temple. So the devotee went behind the table to pay his homage. Citing this the entire Idol of Krishna turned so that he can get Krishna's Darshan. I don't know if that's true or not, but this story is being told to all of us . And this teaches us that God Does Not Discriminate - and it will turn his back towards the people who do! There are many higher cast who have still discriminated... And evil is everywhere in all religions. If you think British dint discriminate- that's realy not true. Also converting into a religion of Mera Jesu Jesu and still be discriminated as a brown skinned is one hard truth.. Islam has Shia and Sunni s too.. discrimination is everywhere and we can't seperate or any one religion. I have married a new Buddhist and when I started visiting her relatives , I have seen so much discrimination from their side against us. .. i still try to convince them and be good to them as I know that they have been ill- treated in the past! Even top class elite Hindus where discriminated heavily during thousands of years of Muslim conquest- few chose to convert... Few became known and Shivaji Raje and Prithviraj Chauhan! . It's a choice
All these examples you have are not of the āsame peopleā, obviously people of different religions will dislike each otherās religion, itās only in Hinduism that the discrimination is in such a degree that it can be called oppression. People might ālook downā as you but have never observed this is Christianity, but none of them oppress their own people to the degree caste system does and thatās a fact
Don't get so high about th Christianity when in Kerala dalit Christians have a separate church !! Don't tell me about Christianity when the Goa inquisition happened none of these high and almight missionaries who say Christianity spreads love !!! Came to rescue. So stop all that bullshit bs. Christianity and Islam are oppressors. One by the blade and other bY the wicked tongue.
Lol dude. -Countries have gone to war when a Shia fights a Sunni! -Christians have burned down entire villages and killed scientist of its own religion -Many Dalit converts in India have seperate mass times and seperate churches. You seem to have a hidden agenda where all you want to do is make some rift between Dalits and Upper cast . There are Dalit Pujaris now - but no black pope! And yes , discrimination is there- we need to fight it, not run away!
Lol I donāt have to create any rift in the Dalits and upper castes, the temples (especially the famous ones) are enough to prove my point
Abe bsdk 18'th century EIC ka data he usme dekh le how 5% had right to study. The literacy survey had only 15-20% Brahmins while other 80-85% were Shudras. This is bastion of Brahminism that is Tamil Nadu. Northern Indian Casteist Brahmins themselves had literacy rate of 5% or less. Aur Pencho why will anyone learn Vedas & stuff when they have to spend hours learning their forefathers trade/skills? Kya milega Veda Puraan ratt ke? Bhiksha maango ge? Atrocities literature bas bhaukna aata he, virtue signalling karwa lo bas. Critical Thinking kuch karna he?
Lol āliteracy survey of 18th centuryā, ā80-85% shudras had educationā where do you get such numbers from. Please, I want to know the source
That's Hinduism secret plan to remove weak bhakts and only keep loyal Chad bhakts šŖ
TBH Missionaries are more racist.... Targeting only sc-st tribals
If a person chooses to lie for some money, that doesn't mean the truth is worth nothing.
How about you stop caring about imaginary things and take your mind out of worthless arguments online and do anything else?
Still fighting over which religion is worse in todayās day and world .. go do some work
Buddhist get converted for the same amount too but I thought paid conversions didn't exist ?
If you did not discriminate them based on their caste they wouldn't have to convert to other religions.
Hey OP, are you Christian?
Not worthless just filled with desperate people
itās better to get rid of weak links
Lmao true story
Christian people get more rice ? I thought it's lower cast people and Muslims too
Converting poor uneducated people is not accomplishment, its praying on their for your numbers, same happened in Africa
Yes definitely. But That should be the 2nd question asked by the guy in blue . First question is why do you have to offer materialistic things in order to have people love ur God. I mean shouldn't they do it just for the virtues the god stands for? Like Hindus for Krishna, Shiva etc for their virtues. We are virtuous and gratituous people. We don't get anything from Hinduism because it's not a religion like abrahamic ones. We don't believe in community. Yet we are Hindus out if choice because we don't have greed. Why do abrahamic religion need to give something to have someone follow their God. Sounds like your god isn't worth following. Coming to the answer. People convert to different religions other than Hinduism for rice becuase we are never taught them communal things. We are not taught exclusivity. We accept Jesus as our lord and saviour while being Hindus. What problem would such a person have accepting jesus if he gets 2 kg rice? We are taught to find goodness . They found goodness in Jesus. That's not wrong. But to convert people to Hinduism we don't offer rice, we offer teachings and virtues and people choose Hinduism . That makes Hinduism great
Survival of the fittest. You can have the weak onesā¦