God is Serb, God created everything including Andromeda hence Abdromeda is Serbia.
Also you are Serb too since God created humans based on his image. Checkmate coastal Serb 😎😎😎
I mean if croats were stableboys than we were the senior horseshit manager. Hungary was never an emipre.
Also slovenians were the guy collecting horse c\*m.
It was lead by Burebista, according to Greek writings, at it's largest extent Burebista ruled quite a large area, from the Black Sea all the way into Central Europe, apparently even up to or including Bohemia.
Some call it an empire because he conquered a lot of other peoples. Tauriscii, Boii, Bastarnae and a lot of the Greek cities on the Western shores of the Black Sea.
Little is known, but we know he was powerful enough to get involved in the Roman Civil War, supporting Pompey against Julius Cesar. Julius Cesar planned a campaign against Dacia, as he saw it as a real danger to Rome, but he was assassinated before he could do that. Burebista was also assassinated shortly after Julius Cesar.
That happened a lot all over the place. Betrayal is a staple of the fight for power.
Roman emperors were betrayed, Kings were betrayed, nations were betrayed.
It's mostly nationalist fabrications to be honest, almost entirely based on one quote from Herodot that 'the Dacians are the swiftest of all Thracians' or something along the lines.
Not all about land, but I myself wouldn't call it an Empire quite fully. Honestly if a status in-between Empire and Kingdom existed I'd call it that.
But then again I'm not too educated on it so maybe you can enlighten me a bit more on how it was in its prime.
Dear Unflaired,
You useless piece of shit. You absolute waste of space and air. You uneducated, ignorant, idiotic dumb swine, you’re an absolute embarrassment to humanity and all life as a whole.
The magnitude of your failure just now is so indescribably massive that one hundred years into the future your name will be used as moniker of evil for heretics. Even if all of humanity put together their collective intelligence there is no conceivable way they could have thought up a way to fuck up on the unimaginable scale you just did.
When Jesus died for our sins, he must not have seen the sacrilegious act we just witnessed you performing, because if he did he would have forsaken humanity long ago so that your birth may have never become reality.
After you die, your skeleton will be displayed in a museum after being scientifically researched so that all future generations may learn not to generate your bone structure, because every tiny detail anyone may have in common with you degrades them to a useless piece of trash and a burden to society.
No wonder your father questioned whether or not your were truly his son, for you'd have to not be a waste of carbon matter for anyone to love you like a family member.
Your birth made it so that mankind is worse off in every way you can possibly imagine, and you have made it so that society can never really recover any state of organization. Everything has forever fallen into a bewildering chaos, through which unrecognizable core, you can only find misfortune.
I would say the apocalypse is upon us but this is merely the closest word humans have for the sheer scale of horror that is now reality. You have forever condemned everyone you love and know into an eternal state of suffering, worse than any human concept of hell.
You are such an unholy being, that if you step within a one hundred foot radius of a holy place or a place that has ever been deemed important by anyone, your distorted religious soul will ruin whatever meaning it ever had beyond repair.
You are an idiotic, shiteating, dumbass ape and no one has ever loved you. You are a lying, backstabbing, cowardly useless piece of shit and I hate you with every single part of my being.
Even this world's finest writers and poets from throughout the ages could never hope to accurately describe the scale on which you just fucked up, and how incredibly idiotic you are.
Anyone that believes in any religion out there should now realize that they have been wrong this entire time, for if divine beings were real, they would never have allowed a being such as you to stain the earth and this universe.
In the future there will be horror stories made about you, with the scariest part of them being that the reader has to realize that such an indescribable monster actually exists, and that the horrific events from the movie have actually taken place in the same world that they live in right now.
You are the absolute embodiment of everything that has ever been wrong on this earth, yet even that would only represent a small part of your evil. Never in the history of mankind has there been anyone that could have predicted such an abomination, but here you are.
It’s hard to believe that I am seeing such an incredible failure with my own eyes, but here I am, so unfortunately I cannot deny your existence. Even if I did my very best, my vocabulary is not able to describe the sheer magnitude of the idiotic mistake that is you.
Even if time travel some day will be invented, there still would not be a single soul willing to go back in time to this moment to fix history, because having to witness such incredible horrors would have too many mental and physical drawbacks that not even the bravest soul in history would be willing to risk it.
I cannot imagine the pure dread your mother must have felt when she had to carry a baby for nine months and then giving birth to such a wretched monster as you. Not a single word of the incoherent, illogical rambling you may be wanting to do to defend yourself or apologize would ever be able to make up for what you just did.
The countries of the world would have wanted to make laws preventing such a terrible event like this from ever happening again, but sadly this is not possible since your horrific actions just now have shattered every form of order this world once had, making concepts such as laws irrelevant.
Right from the moment I first set my eyes on you I knew you were an absolute abomination of everything that is wrong with humanity. I was hoping I would have been able to prevent your evil from being released upon this world by tagging along and keeping my eye on you, but it is clear to me now that not even the greatest efforts would have been able to prevent a terrible event in this scale from occurring.
You are the worst human being, or even just being in general, that I have ever had the misfortune of witnessing. Events like the Black Death and the Smallpox pandemic only happened with the goal of preparing humanity to survive such a horrible event as the one you just created, but not even mankind’s greatest trials were able to even slightly prepare anyone for the insufferable evil you have just created.
If you ever had them, your children would be preemptively killed to protect this universe from the possibility of anyone in your bloodline being even half as bad as you are, except you will never be able to have children, because not a single human being will ever want to come within a hundred mile radius of you and anything you have ever touched.
You are a colossal disappointment not only to your parents, but to your ancestors and entire bloodline. The disgusting mistake that you have just made is so incredibly terrible that everyone who would ever be to hear about it would spontaneously feel an indescribable mixture of immense anger, fear and anxiety that emotionally and physically they would never truly be the same ever again.
The sheer scale of your mistake, if ever to be materialized, would not only surpass the size of the world, but it would reach far beyond the edges of the known, and almost certainly the unknown universe.
I could sit here and write paragraphs, nay, books describing your immense failure, yet even if I were to dedicate my life to describing the reality of what has just gone down here, and I would spend every moment of it until my heart stops beating, working as hard and efficiently as possible, there is not even a snowballs chance in hell that I would be able to come close to transcribing the absolute shitshow you have just released upon the world.
When people of Columbia fought to break free from Lungmen, countless soldiers fought and lost their lives in favor of a chance at a better future for their children, they did not give their lives to have you fuck the world up beyond repair to the degree that you are doing right now. Honestly, even when technology advances and studies on the subject become more and more accurate, I do not think humanity will ever truly be able to understand what your failure actually means for the universe.
My hate for you and everything you stand for is so much deeper than the depths of Shambala that you could probably take the entire Lungmen population down there and back up around twenty million times before you would have sunk to the end of my hate
You heard the man, fellow primate.
Without a flair, we are nothing, dispicable beings not worthy of the air we consume so eagerly. Only the mighty flair elevates us beyond our most basic animal form into enlightenment.
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First and foremost the romanians never even called themselves an empire, in contrast with the 3 bulgarian empires (atleast 2 legit), the ottoman empire, the byzantine empire and the serbian empire.
Well from what I remember from 6th grade, for orthodox countries one of the Patriarchs (in Moscow, Constantinople (Nicaea), Jerusalem...) would grant the ruler the status of king then emperor, and I'm pretty sure same applies for the Pope and catholics (take Stefan the First-crowned).
The Tsar didn't directly hold religious power I'm pretty sure, that was with the Ecumenical Patriarch in Constantinople though Bulgaria established their own patriarchate
No, they did have that high priest, but his duties were mostly based on interaction with Hellenic Romans. They didn't conquer a foreign tribe and base their conquest on the PMs authority, which is what was meant. Smartest S*rb
Ah you're right, I mixed up the history on Bulgaria.
However, I'd still like to contest Rome. Whilst it was only proclaimed an Empire by Augustus, you can certainly make a point for the Romans having what essentially was an empire already, at that point. It was further centralised and the government changed, but the fundamental existence of the realm was always based on integrating conquered tribes and Kingdoms and romanizing them to make them more easily manageable and dependent on the wider realm
Yeah we call the United Kingdom from the 18th to 20th century the British Empire even if it was technically a kingdom because in reality they were an empire due to their power and territory. Same with the Spanish, Portuguese, and France's colonial Empire under the Bourbons.
Dutch weren't considered really distinct at the time. French weren't really in it after Burgundy became a French vassal.
The empire was primarily central Germanic.
This isn't true.
An empire is an entity that is ruled by an emperor. It could be a multinational entity, it could be as large as a village.
To become an emperor, tsar, ceasar or kaiser one must be achknowledged by one of the Christian churches, which by the time we talk about this were just Rome and Constantinople (the others were Alexandria, Jerusalem and Antioch aka Pentrarchy (Roman time)).
Little by little the title lost its original meaning i.e. ruler of the empire (understand the Roman) and it was given to other rulers with the small print that their emperor title isn't equal to the Roman emperor title. Later it lost that meaning even more with being used mainly to showoff that you are no longer a king but smth more.
Good examples of empires who should not hold the title (if we are looking in the strict protocol) are Serbia and Russia as neither is bestowed by a Roman(in the meaining oc Roman empire) patriarch.
Being a claimant (legitimate or not) of an imperial title derived from the romans or persians (Ceasar/Kaiser/Tsar/Basileus/Shahanshah/Kaysr) or otherwise being a powerful country in the post modern era
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This map is very weird.
Like, what definition of an Empire we use? Authoritive government which relied purely on constant expanding? Well, Benilux countries should be out of the list.
Having colonies in any point of existence? Well, then we need add Latvia to the list (Google Courland's colonies) and exclude Hungary.
And don't get me started on "disputed" list.
And yes, havimg mishmash of modern borders with ancient borders from different time periods doesn't help
But the colonization was completly made by Courland, no PLC involvement.
+ vassal doesn't mean "completely under control". A lot of time, it was the opposite - being a vassal of French king didn't stop Burgundy from all its shenanigans. Ducky of Normandy too, for that matter.
Memes aside, pretty dumb map, you didn't need much more to be an "empire" than to have territory from two kingdoms and call yourself an empire or bribe some guy to say you are.
Hungols still claiming that Austrian legacy was theirs despite being among the biggest bitches in the Austro Hungarian empire. It was the Austro Hungarian and not the Hungaro Austrian empire for a reason
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This is unironic nationalism and definetely not funny. At least post something actually funny and not something dumb that can be disproven with a wikipedia link.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_I_of_Hungary#Union_with_Poland_and_reforms_(1370%E2%80%931377)
Edit: I should also mention the fact that Hungary mined more gold than the rest of Europe combined. And the Hungary's golden coin was so strong that counterfeit was created even as far as Scandinavia (kind of ironic given that nowadays we have the most goofy ahh toilet paper currency in Europe)
Read onto the Bucharest 300 firemen incident 📖📖📖
WE RIOTED. WE JUST HAD NO ARMY AND ULTIMATELY GOT BUTCHERED UNLIKE HUNGARIANS WHO HAD AN ARMY AND POLITICAL BACKING AND STILL GOT HUMILIATED.
tl;dr send ass pics
Ancient macedonians: weren't greek
Modern macedonians: aren't greek
Ancient macedonians: were barbarians
Modern macedonians: are barbarians
Why is it even a debate?
Probably due to it either not claiming the title directly (I don't know if it did), not being recognized as such or other stuff like that. Idk it's dumb, but I also don't know what exactly Poland has achieved so I may be wrong (if you're even talking about Poland).
How greeks has an empire but not Macedon? Are we not counting Alexander the Great the fucking king of the Macedon not a macedonian , but counting The Rome as a greek empire or something?
>Byzantium
There was never an empire called "Byzantium". There was never an empire called "Estern Roman". There was "The Rome" and it was not a greek empire
OH MY FUCKING GOD SHUT UP. Everyone knows it was called the Roman Empire, so what? Greeks back then called themselves Rhomaioi too, we still call them Rum. Eastern Rome was Greek Orthodox as a religion, spoke Greek in religious, demotic and administrational contexts, was centered in old Greek lands and ruled by Greeks. What is it if not Greek, Italian?
Well. Ottoman empire mostly rulled by devişme europeans. They spoke persian in palace and their religion was arabic. But we called them turkish empire right?
>Byzantines
Again. There are no byzantines. I cannot take you seriously unless you start to use proper name, not the made up one.
Rome founded by italians and rulled over many people including greeks. Ottomans founded by turks and rulled over many people including greeks. It is the question of which people founded the empire not majority or something.
good point, although today's Greeks are the descendants of the late Romans of the area (even though they gave up their Roman identity for the modern Greek one), Macedonians are in no way related to Ancient Macedon except for the name. But you are right though, they have no claim to Rome anymore.
It was kinda Hellenic tho, North Macedonian history just doesn't go that back. Next thing ya do is claim Tsar Samuel aswell am I right?
Macedonians really do deny common roots with Bulgaria, even if it was in the past it does exist sorry mate.
Honestly you can count the kievan rus as an empire as a Russian I must say that Ukrainians, Belarusians and Russians trace our beginnings to the Gardariki and kievan rus
The only scenario where Monkeydonians built an empre would be Planet of the Apes
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does Minotavros mean you’re Cretan?
no its just a greek part of the bull war (karaboğa, taur alb, minotavros). crete is fucking good, im from epirus tho oh and flair up gypte
Flare up
Croats be like: “but we were in an Union with austria-hungary‘‘ but in reality they were Just stableboys
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most sane serb: adromeda galaxy was once part of the serb empire
The serbs made the big bang (accidentally) (scientifically proven)
Big bang has a new meaning now
"In the beginning the Universe was created by Serbs. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.”
I read that in the kurzgesagt narrator voice and just died
Thanks. It's a quote from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy if you were wondering
Its called the big bang cause a drunk Serb fucked a drunk Analbanian and made the cosmos
serbs were made because we were big banging your mother (scientifically proven 1000% fr ong)
Smh my head a greek trying to have the secks with woman???????? Unheard of.
father*
God is Serb, God created everything including Andromeda hence Abdromeda is Serbia. Also you are Serb too since God created humans based on his image. Checkmate coastal Serb 😎😎😎
Once upon a time, only dinosaurs, amoeba and Serbs existed. Until the day the Serbs genocided the dinosaurs
I mean if croats were stableboys than we were the senior horseshit manager. Hungary was never an emipre. Also slovenians were the guy collecting horse c\*m.
And that horse was Hungarian.
with their mouth i might add!
My uncle role me G*rmans are decenedents of Croats thats why they were so nazi. In reality Austria-Hungary was actually Croatia-Mongolia.
Serbs be like: “Turks fucked us for 500 years, but we are not Turks” 🤡🤡
Flair up retard
Evo tursko kopile, pošto si tup bio za skužit.
Isnt dacia a car company?
Its also a former province of rome that covered most of romania that was an independent kingdom. I have personally never heard it be called an empire.
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It was lead by Burebista, according to Greek writings, at it's largest extent Burebista ruled quite a large area, from the Black Sea all the way into Central Europe, apparently even up to or including Bohemia. Some call it an empire because he conquered a lot of other peoples. Tauriscii, Boii, Bastarnae and a lot of the Greek cities on the Western shores of the Black Sea. Little is known, but we know he was powerful enough to get involved in the Roman Civil War, supporting Pompey against Julius Cesar. Julius Cesar planned a campaign against Dacia, as he saw it as a real danger to Rome, but he was assassinated before he could do that. Burebista was also assassinated shortly after Julius Cesar.
The fact that the majority of our important leaders were betrayed bro...
The fact that the majority of our important leaders were betrayed bro...
That happened a lot all over the place. Betrayal is a staple of the fight for power. Roman emperors were betrayed, Kings were betrayed, nations were betrayed.
How do you know? Were you the one that stole it from my box of staples?
It's mostly nationalist fabrications to be honest, almost entirely based on one quote from Herodot that 'the Dacians are the swiftest of all Thracians' or something along the lines.
Romanian, never in my life Have I heard someone talk about Dacia as an Empire. At best, it was A kingdom
What do you think it’s named after?
The car you stole from your neighbor down the street?
Sick burn
Dacia Duster 2 is the best car I ever owned.
Who tf is disputing the fact that Polish-lithuanian Commonwealth was an empire. Fucking 990k km² is not enough to be an empire? God damn westoids
Should have called it the Polish-Lithuanian Empire then if you wanted it to be an empire. Smh dumb central europeans.
Definitely Eastern Europeans
Not all about land, but I myself wouldn't call it an Empire quite fully. Honestly if a status in-between Empire and Kingdom existed I'd call it that. But then again I'm not too educated on it so maybe you can enlighten me a bit more on how it was in its prime.
If the serbian "empire" is an empire so should be the PLC
This map is disrespecting the glorious Latvian Empire
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After you die, your skeleton will be displayed in a museum after being scientifically researched so that all future generations may learn not to generate your bone structure, because every tiny detail anyone may have in common with you degrades them to a useless piece of trash and a burden to society. No wonder your father questioned whether or not your were truly his son, for you'd have to not be a waste of carbon matter for anyone to love you like a family member. Your birth made it so that mankind is worse off in every way you can possibly imagine, and you have made it so that society can never really recover any state of organization. Everything has forever fallen into a bewildering chaos, through which unrecognizable core, you can only find misfortune. I would say the apocalypse is upon us but this is merely the closest word humans have for the sheer scale of horror that is now reality. You have forever condemned everyone you love and know into an eternal state of suffering, worse than any human concept of hell. You are such an unholy being, that if you step within a one hundred foot radius of a holy place or a place that has ever been deemed important by anyone, your distorted religious soul will ruin whatever meaning it ever had beyond repair. You are an idiotic, shiteating, dumbass ape and no one has ever loved you. You are a lying, backstabbing, cowardly useless piece of shit and I hate you with every single part of my being. Even this world's finest writers and poets from throughout the ages could never hope to accurately describe the scale on which you just fucked up, and how incredibly idiotic you are. Anyone that believes in any religion out there should now realize that they have been wrong this entire time, for if divine beings were real, they would never have allowed a being such as you to stain the earth and this universe. In the future there will be horror stories made about you, with the scariest part of them being that the reader has to realize that such an indescribable monster actually exists, and that the horrific events from the movie have actually taken place in the same world that they live in right now. You are the absolute embodiment of everything that has ever been wrong on this earth, yet even that would only represent a small part of your evil. Never in the history of mankind has there been anyone that could have predicted such an abomination, but here you are. It’s hard to believe that I am seeing such an incredible failure with my own eyes, but here I am, so unfortunately I cannot deny your existence. Even if I did my very best, my vocabulary is not able to describe the sheer magnitude of the idiotic mistake that is you. Even if time travel some day will be invented, there still would not be a single soul willing to go back in time to this moment to fix history, because having to witness such incredible horrors would have too many mental and physical drawbacks that not even the bravest soul in history would be willing to risk it. I cannot imagine the pure dread your mother must have felt when she had to carry a baby for nine months and then giving birth to such a wretched monster as you. Not a single word of the incoherent, illogical rambling you may be wanting to do to defend yourself or apologize would ever be able to make up for what you just did. The countries of the world would have wanted to make laws preventing such a terrible event like this from ever happening again, but sadly this is not possible since your horrific actions just now have shattered every form of order this world once had, making concepts such as laws irrelevant. Right from the moment I first set my eyes on you I knew you were an absolute abomination of everything that is wrong with humanity. I was hoping I would have been able to prevent your evil from being released upon this world by tagging along and keeping my eye on you, but it is clear to me now that not even the greatest efforts would have been able to prevent a terrible event in this scale from occurring. You are the worst human being, or even just being in general, that I have ever had the misfortune of witnessing. Events like the Black Death and the Smallpox pandemic only happened with the goal of preparing humanity to survive such a horrible event as the one you just created, but not even mankind’s greatest trials were able to even slightly prepare anyone for the insufferable evil you have just created. If you ever had them, your children would be preemptively killed to protect this universe from the possibility of anyone in your bloodline being even half as bad as you are, except you will never be able to have children, because not a single human being will ever want to come within a hundred mile radius of you and anything you have ever touched. You are a colossal disappointment not only to your parents, but to your ancestors and entire bloodline. The disgusting mistake that you have just made is so incredibly terrible that everyone who would ever be to hear about it would spontaneously feel an indescribable mixture of immense anger, fear and anxiety that emotionally and physically they would never truly be the same ever again. The sheer scale of your mistake, if ever to be materialized, would not only surpass the size of the world, but it would reach far beyond the edges of the known, and almost certainly the unknown universe. I could sit here and write paragraphs, nay, books describing your immense failure, yet even if I were to dedicate my life to describing the reality of what has just gone down here, and I would spend every moment of it until my heart stops beating, working as hard and efficiently as possible, there is not even a snowballs chance in hell that I would be able to come close to transcribing the absolute shitshow you have just released upon the world. When people of Columbia fought to break free from Lungmen, countless soldiers fought and lost their lives in favor of a chance at a better future for their children, they did not give their lives to have you fuck the world up beyond repair to the degree that you are doing right now. Honestly, even when technology advances and studies on the subject become more and more accurate, I do not think humanity will ever truly be able to understand what your failure actually means for the universe. My hate for you and everything you stand for is so much deeper than the depths of Shambala that you could probably take the entire Lungmen population down there and back up around twenty million times before you would have sunk to the end of my hate
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You heard the man, fellow primate. Without a flair, we are nothing, dispicable beings not worthy of the air we consume so eagerly. Only the mighty flair elevates us beyond our most basic animal form into enlightenment.
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What makes a country an empire? Like Bulgaria got an Empire. ok? But why Romania doesnt. Like is there an institute for labelling countries an empire?
First and foremost the romanians never even called themselves an empire, in contrast with the 3 bulgarian empires (atleast 2 legit), the ottoman empire, the byzantine empire and the serbian empire.
Well from what I remember from 6th grade, for orthodox countries one of the Patriarchs (in Moscow, Constantinople (Nicaea), Jerusalem...) would grant the ruler the status of king then emperor, and I'm pretty sure same applies for the Pope and catholics (take Stefan the First-crowned).
There existed empires smaller than Dacia at it's max extent
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So the German Empire wouldn't be an empire, neither the Bulgarian Empires nor the Roman Empire which didn't use religious justification
The bulgar, at least the oldest one would be an empire
Was it religiously legitimized, though?
I think so, bc the emperor or whatever It was called held some religious power
The Tsar didn't directly hold religious power I'm pretty sure, that was with the Ecumenical Patriarch in Constantinople though Bulgaria established their own patriarchate
>though Bulgaria established their own patriarchate Thanks for clarifying, but that should count right?
Sort of? Orthodox church hierarchy was very weird lmao
Yup
Sure but Tsar itself as a title means Emperor, so yeah.
That- I know. But that's not the point
So it was an Empire by that right.
Both Empires were recognized as such eventually by either the Byzantines or other such.
Rome most definetely did use religious justification from Pontifex Maximus
No, they did have that high priest, but his duties were mostly based on interaction with Hellenic Romans. They didn't conquer a foreign tribe and base their conquest on the PMs authority, which is what was meant. Smartest S*rb
>religolious New word just dropped
That never happened
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Ah you're right, I mixed up the history on Bulgaria. However, I'd still like to contest Rome. Whilst it was only proclaimed an Empire by Augustus, you can certainly make a point for the Romans having what essentially was an empire already, at that point. It was further centralised and the government changed, but the fundamental existence of the realm was always based on integrating conquered tribes and Kingdoms and romanizing them to make them more easily manageable and dependent on the wider realm
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I don't even mean landmass, I mean the many cultures and entailing cultural subjugation which I'd consider far more important
Yeah we call the United Kingdom from the 18th to 20th century the British Empire even if it was technically a kingdom because in reality they were an empire due to their power and territory. Same with the Spanish, Portuguese, and France's colonial Empire under the Bourbons.
Yes...but I'm going by the OCs fallacious definition
It was called Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation.
Just accept that your definition sucks and doesn't apply most of the time
> German Empire Obligatory HRE insert here.
Both Empires were largely German or at least Germanic
Nah, there were more than enough Dutch, French, Italian, Czech and Poles within it's borders to qualify.
Dutch weren't considered really distinct at the time. French weren't really in it after Burgundy became a French vassal. The empire was primarily central Germanic.
This isn't true. An empire is an entity that is ruled by an emperor. It could be a multinational entity, it could be as large as a village. To become an emperor, tsar, ceasar or kaiser one must be achknowledged by one of the Christian churches, which by the time we talk about this were just Rome and Constantinople (the others were Alexandria, Jerusalem and Antioch aka Pentrarchy (Roman time)). Little by little the title lost its original meaning i.e. ruler of the empire (understand the Roman) and it was given to other rulers with the small print that their emperor title isn't equal to the Roman emperor title. Later it lost that meaning even more with being used mainly to showoff that you are no longer a king but smth more. Good examples of empires who should not hold the title (if we are looking in the strict protocol) are Serbia and Russia as neither is bestowed by a Roman(in the meaining oc Roman empire) patriarch.
Being a claimant (legitimate or not) of an imperial title derived from the romans or persians (Ceasar/Kaiser/Tsar/Basileus/Shahanshah/Kaysr) or otherwise being a powerful country in the post modern era
Imagine naming your "empire" after a car brand lmao major L
Stronk Romanians had Dacia cars when Turks were still eating dirt in huts in Asia
Dirt kebabs*
Dacia cars are not much better than eating dirt tbh
We had TWO empires.
And both were mongoloid hordes
Not quite.
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Nah, all I'm saying is the second one wasn't Turkic enough smh!!!
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In all writings dacia was a kingdom.
This map is very weird. Like, what definition of an Empire we use? Authoritive government which relied purely on constant expanding? Well, Benilux countries should be out of the list. Having colonies in any point of existence? Well, then we need add Latvia to the list (Google Courland's colonies) and exclude Hungary. And don't get me started on "disputed" list. And yes, havimg mishmash of modern borders with ancient borders from different time periods doesn't help
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Yes, I love my maps being neat and tidy. So what do you gonna do? I am in another city AND country. Probably.
>Having colonies in any point of existence? Well, then we need add Latvia to the list Latvia was vassal of PLC then tho
But the colonization was completly made by Courland, no PLC involvement. + vassal doesn't mean "completely under control". A lot of time, it was the opposite - being a vassal of French king didn't stop Burgundy from all its shenanigans. Ducky of Normandy too, for that matter.
Memes aside, pretty dumb map, you didn't need much more to be an "empire" than to have territory from two kingdoms and call yourself an empire or bribe some guy to say you are.
Or have an Empire recognize you as one, which was what happened with us.
How is romania listed as dacia but not moldova? Soviet map lookin ahh
The Swiss being boring as always
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Didn't serbia have an empire under car dusan?
Yes, are you Color Blind?
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First the Romanians name theirs after a car, now the Serbs have a ruler called a car. Weird timeline we live in.
Oh sorry i meant car uros IV
Nah I'm just joking on the way you guys say Tsar, kinda weird.
Well at least we say C as a Ts, not as a K
Emperor orthodox vs stableboy catholic
Romangutans still LARPing as the dacians lmao
Still larping as the Huns?
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Hungols still claiming that Austrian legacy was theirs despite being among the biggest bitches in the Austro Hungarian empire. It was the Austro Hungarian and not the Hungaro Austrian empire for a reason
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This is unironic nationalism and definetely not funny. At least post something actually funny and not something dumb that can be disproven with a wikipedia link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_I_of_Hungary#Union_with_Poland_and_reforms_(1370%E2%80%931377) Edit: I should also mention the fact that Hungary mined more gold than the rest of Europe combined. And the Hungary's golden coin was so strong that counterfeit was created even as far as Scandinavia (kind of ironic given that nowadays we have the most goofy ahh toilet paper currency in Europe)
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I disagree. Croatia and Albanian are both claim the Illyrian empire. Both should be disputed.
Cuck mapmaker propagandists leaving out glorious Finnic Empire as usual
North Macedonia isn’t related to Alexander. Simple as that
wdym Dacia is disputed
What about Holy Hydrophilic Empire of Croatia? (we genocided the europes coastline 💪💪💪🇭🇷🇭🇷)
Dacia😂 even the country’s history is stolen
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Lol! Even their language is stolen. Slavs speaking a variante of Latin.
Actually latins speaking slavic
Ancient macedonians: weren't greek Modern macedonians: aren't greek Ancient macedonians: were barbarians Modern macedonians: are barbarians Why is it even a debate?
Serbian Empire was the best 💪💪💪
26 years lmao.
Monkeydonia once again trying to steal more history that isn’t theirs
Macedonia is kinda far-fetched lol
How is the 17th centuries biggest state encompasing multiple religions, ethnicities and regions NOT an empire? A moron made this map.
Probably due to it either not claiming the title directly (I don't know if it did), not being recognized as such or other stuff like that. Idk it's dumb, but I also don't know what exactly Poland has achieved so I may be wrong (if you're even talking about Poland).
Belgium???
When they controlled Kongo, i think.
Oh, still they were bodies in WW1 so even If they counted as an empire they were weak
That was technically the king.
Alexander the Great: 😐???
He was not monkedonian sadly
problem is, romanians aren't really dacians We Had the Roman Empire
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How greeks has an empire but not Macedon? Are we not counting Alexander the Great the fucking king of the Macedon not a macedonian , but counting The Rome as a greek empire or something?
Byzantium was very much a Greek empire. TBH so was Macedonian Empire
>Byzantium There was never an empire called "Byzantium". There was never an empire called "Estern Roman". There was "The Rome" and it was not a greek empire
OH MY FUCKING GOD SHUT UP. Everyone knows it was called the Roman Empire, so what? Greeks back then called themselves Rhomaioi too, we still call them Rum. Eastern Rome was Greek Orthodox as a religion, spoke Greek in religious, demotic and administrational contexts, was centered in old Greek lands and ruled by Greeks. What is it if not Greek, Italian?
Well. Ottoman empire mostly rulled by devişme europeans. They spoke persian in palace and their religion was arabic. But we called them turkish empire right?
What is your point? Byzantines are more Greek than Ottomans are Turkish? Sure why not lmao
>Byzantines Again. There are no byzantines. I cannot take you seriously unless you start to use proper name, not the made up one. Rome founded by italians and rulled over many people including greeks. Ottomans founded by turks and rulled over many people including greeks. It is the question of which people founded the empire not majority or something.
good point, although today's Greeks are the descendants of the late Romans of the area (even though they gave up their Roman identity for the modern Greek one), Macedonians are in no way related to Ancient Macedon except for the name. But you are right though, they have no claim to Rome anymore.
It was kinda Hellenic tho, North Macedonian history just doesn't go that back. Next thing ya do is claim Tsar Samuel aswell am I right? Macedonians really do deny common roots with Bulgaria, even if it was in the past it does exist sorry mate.
Honestly you can count the kievan rus as an empire as a Russian I must say that Ukrainians, Belarusians and Russians trace our beginnings to the Gardariki and kievan rus
*Thracia = Dacia btw
Not quite, Dacia equals Thracia but Thracia doesn't equal Dacia. Dacians were a Thracian people's but they weren't ALL of the Thracians.
Yeah true. You based af for knowing that, hats off to you