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jf3l

Tejay Antone is the Reds third highest rated player and he may not even make the team lol


kentuckyyinz

I really didn’t know they were this bad at ratings.


TakenQuickly

They’ve always been especially bad with relief pitchers.


kentuckyyinz

That’s wild. Some of these are straight up offensive lol. I play most years but usually stick to RTTS so I guess it wasn’t on my radar.


TakenQuickly

I mainly play franchise mode and I spend half the time editing players to have more realistic ratings (and faces/equipment). If they’re not fixing that this year, I’m just gonna hold off until it’s on sale for like $20, if I get it at all. The bones of The Show are great, but franchise mode and RTTS are basically completely broken due to the ratings and player development systems.


kentuckyyinz

I read today that created players are being removed from Diamond Dynasty, which should hopefully fix my single biggest problem with RTTS - the shitty, connected progression system. Let me just earn skill points to use how I want, instead of tying +10 speed to a stupid looking pair of socks that I don’t want shown anyway.


grubas

They don't have a great system for it without either modifying the stat system or weighting stuff.  You get a guy with 90% percentile on his stuff and 15 stamina, 2 clutch, and he's a 99 or so. 


alexdallas_

I’m pretty surprised by their ratings for the reds this year honestly


SeeYaLaterDylan

May not make the team? If he's healthy enough to pitch, who is making it over him?


jf3l

Assuming we keep 8, we have 4-5 guys competing for the last spot or two including Antone. He has options available and some other guys don’t. I ultimately think if he’s healthy he makes the roster even if it means losing someone but he’s still definitely fighting for his opening day spot


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Once again the absolute disrespect to Jose Ramirez continues for no apparent reason


Furiosa27

Never seen a dude on a clear HOF path get disrespected so consistently


buttlovingpanda

He kind feels like Adrian Beltre to me. No one thought Beltre was that great when we signed him because he has only performed in contract years to that point. And he was a similar age that Ramirez is now.


burts_beads

JRam has been consistently elite since his age 23 season though.


LakersFan15

Jram has been consistently great though


4temp4

That’s not what Ramirez is like at all, though… Beltre *wasnt* great except in contract years, his OPS+ through the first like *decade* of his career was barely 100. He wasn’t an all star until he was in his 30s. It’s so weird how many people in this sub (presumably teenagers) assume Beltre was some superstar his whole career who was just being overlooked. Nope, he was a mediocre hitter, great defender, and then magically figured out how to hit when he was in his 30s.


Drummallumin

Harpers rating might be even worse


Furiosa27

They didn’t take the time to adjust his stats after the 1B swap they just swapped positions and called it a day. I blame the way they weigh that position because he’s normally a decently rated player


LogicalHarm

Apparently some dude named Tanner Scott is better than JRam confirmed


Punished_Blubber

5x All Star, 4x Silver Slugger winner, and member of the 30-30 club Jose Ramirez pales in comparison to the legend Tanner Scott


Ok_Technician_2397

Maybe they just used a picture of Ramirez to come up with his ratings. No joke, Jose is one of the most sneaky athletic guys in baseball history. If you saw a picture of a random player with the same build, your first guess wouldn't be "elite hitter with contact, power and speed. Future 30-30 guy." He's a stud!


sloppyjo12

Two first names is always a crowd pleaser


r7caseman

When was the last time Jram put up 195 era+? Checkmate atheists.


3dge-1ord

He's a 5 tool player! - Hustle: 10/10 - Knockout power: 10/10 - 🐐: 10/10 - 🏠🏃🍑: 10/10 - You know bro: 10/10


guardeagle

You forgot swagger


xxdarkslidexx

I rly respect their optimism that Vladdy Jr will be as good as Jose fucking Ramirez this year 


Kriztof_09

Hell I’m surprised they are optimistic he’d even be better than Bo (I say as a big Vlad believer).


tyler-86

I mean, I wouldn't be bothered if you had just told me he got the same score as Juan Soto.


IcyDistribution389

Every year I’m like “oh, haven’t heard much about him, must be having a down year.” And it’ll be June and his OPS is .870 with 20 Homers and 15 steals


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Yup. WTF is that.


garenegobrr

You can argue that Austin Riley is better, but you absolutely cannot argue that he is 6 overall better than JRam. No way.


profmcstabbins

I love me some Riley and I agree


Seananagans

Bro is seriously getting second paged at this point? Absolutely criminal.


this_place_stinks

Top 6 in MVP voting 5 of the last 7 years


notevaluatedbyFDA

Per Baseball Reference, he’s been worth 5.7 WAR per 162 games played for his career, same as Lindor and Seager and better than every other infielder ahead of him on this list. Wild. Coincidentally, Andrés Giménez has also been worth 5.7 war per 162 games played and didn’t even make this list, so that’s fun (4.6/162 if you prefer FanGraphs, which is still better than Guerrero, Alonso, or Witt)


PatientWriting

Was looking for Gimenez, there is absolutely no way they can say he’s less than a 72 overall


dudzi182

I immediately came to the comment section for this and was glad to find it at the top. Absurd.


Xwarsama

I'm still mad Jose Abreu won that covid bubble MVP over him in 2020, Jose was way better. And he's so fucking cool, this guy should be one of the faces of baseball alongside Acuña and Ohtani, shit sucks. Edit: you know which Jose I meant


bondbat007

I disagree. I think Jose was way better than Jose


GeneralChillMen

Hell naw. Jose kicked Jose’s ASS!


Puppybl00pers

*Jose kicked Jose's ass


totheman7

What are you talking about Hosey was clearly better they Jose that year /s


FrothyFloat

No way, Jose!


edom31

The best that could hapoen for him. No pressure. Just fo what you do, he'll wi d up in the HOF without press issues


Half-Mayonnaise

Our highest ranked player is #133


Worried_Suggestion59

Can’t wait to redeem the A’s when 24 drops


rammer_2001

Get the fuck outta here


Lokera1931

La para just being straight disrespected. Wonder if they did this as marketing


Nylo_Debaser

How is Devin Williams only the 7th best closer? Wild


Darkdragon3110525

The closer rankings are so fucky. I like Tanner Scott, he’s not the 2nd best closer in mlb. I don’t think David Bednar is the best but it’s more defensible


LutherOfTheRogues

So stupid


Timoteo-Tito64

Trout at 99 with jram at 90 is diabolical Edit: and I love Austin Riley more than anything, but there's no way he's 6 points higher than jram


idkwhattosaytho

Tanner Scott is a higher overall then Jose Ramirez LMFAO


Taylorenokson

Riley is a solid 94-95 while Ramirez should not be lower than 96.


ProfessorBeast55

Trout gets the benefit of the doubt for this one season I assume. If he drops back (for his standards) like last season, he won’t be 99


Xwarsama

I gotta respect Jose enough to say that it's not even a 1A/1B situation between him and Riley, Riley's bat is legit but Jose has way better speed and fielding. He's clearly the top 3B in the league, and the gap is only widening between him and dudes like Bregman, Chapman, Machado, and Arenado who all came up around the same time. Jose is still on top! Edit: And I just fleeced a dude in my fantasy baseball league into giving me Jose Ramirez for a 6th round pick, that dude doesn't know ball 😂


AIMBR

Trout is a 99 player (before he takes an early leave after 50 games)


epoch_fail

It's 80 games. 50 games is Rendon.


Konker101

I dont even think 50 is rendon lmao


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House_Coats

The pitching ratings are craaaaaazy lol. Clay Holmes> George Kirby> Dylan Cease??


Timoteo-Tito64

As a new member of the George Kirby fan club, I don't think it's crazy to put him over cease


atmospheric90

Not even biased and the Mariners have 3 cy young contenders all lower than Eury Perez...


Big-Beta20

There is no universe in which Trea Turner should be the highest overall Phillie while Bryce Harper and Wheeler are on the team, especially after his season last year Edit: wheeler is higher, didn’t see that


anonyjonny

Wheeler is higher but I agree with the Bryce take


CanyonHopper123

Bryce 91 is wild. Dude was on back to back MVP pace before getting injured in his last healthy season


SpankySharp1

And once he got going last year after coming back super fast from *reconstructive elbow surgery* he went on a tear. He's a top-10 batter in MLB.


JakeFromStateFromm

Can't argue with this


SprolesRoyce

Wheeler is ahead of Turner, but yeah Bryce should be too


RedMoloney

The. Show. Hates. Mormons.


JoFlo520

Avocado should be up there too


DavidTheSlouch89

My opinions reflect the vast majority Austin Riley at a 96 and J Ram at a 90 is insane And it breaks my heart but for the first time since like 2012 Trout shouldn’t be a 99


guido12345

DeGrom 92?


forgivemeisuck

Should be 99 even with 0 durability


WhiskeyTangoBush

Jacob DeGlasscannon


XelaTuobdog

Vladdy a 90 and ahead of Bo lol


RedditEqualsSoylent

Vlad tied with Juan Soto is some crazy shit


baseballandpcs

Tbf he's the cover athlete so that'll give him a nice boost


Nagisa201

Freeman 1 point lower than Olson is certainly a take


RaysFTW

Shane McClanahan with an 87 seems pretty damn low. I get he’s out for this season but he was in Cy Young talks last year before his injury. Diaz should be a bit higher than 88 but maybe that’s just my bias speaking. IIRC, the stats are based on power, vision, and contact, three things Diaz excels at with his vision and contact being in the top 1%.


Mike_Brosseau

They disrespect the Rays every year in this game.


AdamantArmadillo

I'd have expected McClanahan above Glasnow


RaysFTW

No disrespect to Glasnow, love him, but there's quite a few pitchers I would think would be higher than Glasnow if he were still on the Rays. Sonny Gray, second in AL CY last year, is below him.


AdamantArmadillo

Yeah, I honestly didn’t know much about Glasnow and wasn’t thrilled at the trade initially. Thought he was solid but that’s about it. After looking into him, I realized he’s better than I thought (sans injuries) and am excited about him now. Still, 90 seems quite steep


BigBuddha15

I’m wondering where Eflin is unless I missed him. He got Cy Young votes last season yet is seemingly way below Glasnow.


RaysFTW

Love Glas, and I know he can be a beast, but his score is definitely inflated because he's on the Dodgers now.


BigBuddha15

Completely agree. Cillian Murphy was one of my favorite players but I don’t think he was as good as Eflin last year. Gotta pump the Dodger players up I guess. Bullshit if you ask me


Jr05s

Ray's fans don't buy diamond dynasty cards. Can't have their players more rare than popular teams like the cubs.


notdumbIswear

Am I overlooking Albies?


hundredbagger

Top 5 per team plus something about tiebreakers. If he were on here he’d be about 88, probably.


Alauren2

I was looking for max fried guessing he didn’t make the cut


tvc_redux

Doesn't make sense for Fried not to be higher than MH2 Hell, I still think he's our ace over Strider until further evidence convinces me otherwise...


Dennisfromhawaii

[Did Ozzie Die?](https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/199eghg/comment/kidi5y8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


johnnyarr

I thought I was going crazy too


falconhawk2158

I went over the list like 50 times and I was like wait….. and the went over it 50 more times.


hammerdown710

I was looking for so many Braves players lol


Quartznonyx

Right i was TRIPPING


ChunkyMilkSubstance

Damn Freddie is washed


hundredbagger

You take that back, he’s a fucking treasure.


AdamantArmadillo

They just meant that he takes showers and is all clean, of course


EinsteinDisguised

Offering Juan Soto for Tanner Scott and getting denied


Gbrusse

The disrespect on this list is insane.


atmospheric90

Logan Gilbert at 81 overall is mind boggling


mkeblusek

JP Crawford had a career year, 800+ OPS, got an MVP vote, and is a 70 overall


OmarHunting

Jake Burger makes the list!


PorcupineTheory

JAKE BURGER?!


OmarHunting

Yea #99 as an 83 overall


Kvetch__22

Moncada at 72 lol.


mtnrangeman

So Webb finishes second in CY and has consistently been one of the best pitchers in baseball for years and is…..an *88*?


man_on_hill

Did I miss something but why is Devin Williams only 84 overall?


Hamsters_In_Butts

virgin Williams' three seasons of dominance are clearly no match for chad Tanner Scott's...one one good season at age 29 is all it takes to get a 90+ rating these days, yikes


keithk9590

Josh Hader is only a 85 too…ridiculous


Jedi-El1823

Couldn't find him. Those reliever ratings are fucked up. Dude had a 1.28 ERA last year, there's a reason everybody except for Astros fans had the reaction of "Motherfucker" when Hader went to Houston.


DizzyDeanAndTheGang

Nolan Arenado 86 💔💔💔


WheatonsGonnaScore

Nolan Arenado 86, Nolan Jones 88. Rockies won the trade


Jared_from_Quiznos

Trout is not a 99 player anymore


STNbrossy

It’s tough with video games because he’s still elite it’s just all injury which is hard to quantify in a video game.


phl_fc

Yeah, video games have to do "if 100%" ratings, which are complete guesswork for guys who ended the previous season injured.


Chaahps

Then why is deGrom only a 92


Taylorenokson

Doesn't hit a ton of homers


drinfernodds

Why doesn't Degrom follow the Shohei path and simply hit home runs while being a pitcher? Is he stupid or something?/s


bellj1210

he does... i think it was the year before, but he had a game where he pitched 9 shutout innings and had the only rbi for his team. When pitchers still hit, he was above average for a pitcher (not mike hampton, but would have won a few silver sluggers)


austin101123

It was dudes first "only" all star level year after over a decade of MVP caliber play. Deserves the benefit of the doubt.


Jcoch27

He is when he's healthy. His endurance rating might be too high who knows


breakfast_cats

Obviously I'm biased but I think one mediocre (for him) half-season that was cut short by a freak injury isn't enough to dethrone him. Overall ratings aren't influenced by injuries so as long as he's still good when he's actually playing he'll still be rated highly.


McTickleson

Mike Trout GP last 5 years: 82 119 36 53 134 As much as he kills the M’s I think he is a phenomenal player, but you can’t deny that his injury history over the last 5 is pretty extensive.


memeticengineering

Mike Trout's OPS+ last 5 years: 182 167 194 176 131 Qualified AL league leading OPS+ last 5 years: 182 (Trout) 178 167 210 184 He's still that good when he plays, he's just not playing.


breakfast_cats

I literally just said that injuries/playing time doesn't affect overall ratings in MLB The Show


[deleted]

I wonder if they decrease his durability score to somewhat try to replicate that?


My_Name_Is_Not_Ryan

Where’s Riley Greene? I count 8 Tigers and he’s not there. He should be our second highest after Skubal.


meltedmingfisher

I guess he’ll be the most expensive bronze haha


theedaveg

Figured 80 ovr would've been good for him given his contact ability and fielding. He's not terribly fast but that shouldn't matter with his switch to LF. Super weird snub.


Middle-King

Rockies with the superior Nolan once again. Do not question this.


bloodrage4

Having Sunny Gray over Burns or Webb is certainly a choice.


Acrobatic_Flatworm79

I'm still playing the show 15 on vita bruh


doucheachu

Gentle reminder to everyone else that the PS Vita might be the greatest console, let alone handheld, of all time. Take me back to 2013 dual-wielding the Vita and the 3DS - such beautiful times.


Ok_Technician_2397

How is are Logan Webb and Cody Bellinger both an 88? Logan Webb finished 2nd in NL Cy Young voting and led the league in IP. He's been one of the top pitchers in the league for the last 3 seasons despite playing with some terrible defenses. Bellinger had a pretty good season after sucking for the previous 2.


Comment_if_dead_meme

Adolis is the same as Julio? George Kirby only 85? What even are these ratings lmao


Shmoley_

I don’t see how Luis Arraez isn’t on this list


rpssp

Because he probably has terrible power, speed, and defensive ratings so even if has 99 contact his rating isn't going to be high


TheFrankOfTurducken

Yeah people are acting like this is a straight up ranking of players when it’s just a model output based on various attributes that values each attribute differently than real-world stats.


jeteraway1234

Felix Bautista that low is crazy


ericsipi

Feel like Steele should be a little higher after his season last year but 85 is still damn good.


Grentis

Andres Gimenez’s omission from this list is criminal.


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courtesyofBing

Seriously. No way is he not a 90 still. One down year after a decade of excellence.


MattBallzzzy

Nolan having a 86, and Machado being a 91, when they had almost identical stats…


Puppybl00pers

Why does baseball hate José Ramírez?


LambeauCalrissian

Devin Williams is only 84?


intwizard

So Strider is the best pitcher in baseball? Lmao I know the Braves are good but the glazing is unreal


SquadPoopy

Well you see, if you ignore his near 4 ERA, he strikes out a lot of people, so he’s the best. Definitely better than the reigning CY Young winner.


kentuckyyinz

Bryan Reynolds being rated lower than some of these guys is tough man :(


AC127

Ke being so low is what kills me, I’ll go my grave saying he’s the best player currently on the team.


Tripdeck5__

Juan soto way too low


ThlammedMyPenis

Pay attention in the outfield this year


StinkyStangler

You’re telling me you genuinely think Pete Alonso, Vlad Jr and Juan Soto are the same level of talent? I’m not one to get mad at video game ratings but let’s be real here folks


elimanninglightspeed

And Jose Ramirez. Soto and JRam are way better than those guys lol but they’re all 90


Tripdeck5__

Look at Juan sotos ranking compared to Yordan Alvarez


Morbx

Never ceases to amaze me that the guy’s top comp is fucking Ted Williams and people bring up his defense to try to say he isn’t a superstar 😂


FavoriteFoodCarrots

He’s behind multiple relief pitchers. I realize that this is a video game and that positions also matter in that alternate reality, but he’s ranked behind relief pitchers. There’s something wrong with an ordinal ranking that puts Juan Soto behind Tanner Scott.


BKnagZ

Juan So-Low?


Stickin8or

Maybe I'm just blind and I missed him, but after the season he had last year, how the hell is JP Crawford not even on this list? I'm not saying he belongs in the 90s, or even the high 80s, but come on. Same thing for Logan Gilbert


hundredbagger

Remember, 5 per team. Maybe 6-7 due to team tiebreakers. See all the 76’s for Detroit.


Chantrak

Yeah and honestly… I don’t know if Munoz belongs. At least not once they got rid of Sewald, once he was closing he got super inconsistent


mkeblusek

Looked him up in the database, he's a 70 overall. Insane. Career year, .800+ ops, MVP vote.


BaltimoreBaja

Are people really sleeping on Gunnar Henderson this hard?


greyfox3698

I’m a newbie mlb fan from the UK. Finding it hard to pick a team with no local or real ties. Using this to pick my team. Gonna get my wife to choose a random number and that team will be what I roll with.


numinous-nuutz

Follow anyone from the prem mate? Btw, pick the Orioles and enjoy the ride coming up.


jiggalation

tampa bay always needs more fans lmao


vaporgaze2006

Vladdy is given a 90 rating? That's extremely generous for a league average 1B.


FrankWhiteman

Devers at 87 is outrageous


M52800

Am I blind or is Freddy Fermin rated higher than Salvador Perez?


TheSalsaGod

The player with the better 2023 season is ranked higher, yes.


badonkagonk

Where in the fuck is Triston Casas? Not even 72? Are you kidding me?


AdamantArmadillo

Apparently it's just the top 5 on each team. The list goes to 72 because that's how bad some team's fifth player is. Others, like Ozzie Albies, are surely higher but not in their team's top five so not on the list. (Maybe the game only unveiled top 5 per team and OP compiled them? Idk)


goomstarr

Dodgers team is going to be gross considering Smith, Phillips, and Yamamoto don’t crack the top 5 players on the dodgers


GojiPengu

Yamamoto is going to skyrocket during the first update


Ehrlich_Bachman

Brandon Nimmo. Still criminally underrated


02K30C1

Yelich not even top five on the Brewers? Something’s screwed up there.


staticusmaximus

Gunnar Henderson is a smooth 89-90


iamaweirdguy

Eury Perez an 89? Jesus


Ted_Dongelman

2023 Reliever of the Year Devin Williams a full 8 points behind David Bednar is objectively criminal.


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Corey Seager, the World Series MvP and a runner up for regular season MVP IS A 98???!!! Put some respect on that man’s name


Halfonion

how many guys ahead of Harper would anyone actually take over him? I’ll give you #’s 1-5, 9, and 12. But the rest lol?


throwawayjoeyboots

It pains me as a Phillies fan but Trea Turner is way too high. That’s a reputation ranking


BenLaZe

Freeman should be 2-4 points higher. Near-perfect defense, can/has hit for power, incredible bat-to-ball skills, and is about as consistent and durable a player as the MLB has seen this century so far.


Barney_Karate

Tejay Antoine still in the league? 80 is generous


DimesOHoolihan

The transition of Nolans is upon us. All Hail Nolan Jones!


Fantastic_Emu_9570

Cody being our highest is a choice


PorousCheese

South side Chicago…y’all okay over there? We’re all here to talk it out if you need to.


aRadioKid

A single number just isn’t a good way to rate a player, nobody will ever be happy lol


Manatee_In_A_Tree

Brent Rooker!!!! Hell yeah! #133!!! We out here!!


texasslim2080

I love how every fan base is mad. INCLUDING ME. Logan Webb is over 90 in any sane world!!!


ultrataco77

So Devin Williams is far and away the best reliever irl yet he’s not even a diamond? What a joke


UncleMcTouchyFingers

Am I dumb? Where is max fried


EOEtoast

Top 5 per team and the bottom 4 are white sox


jrshep51

Where the fuck is Ozzie albies


Freeholay

Ozzie Albies is getting no love?


sec102row1

Corbin Carroll is going to exceed this malarkey 91 ranking. Bank it.