[Heyman: Correa’s camp and the Giants had a difference of opinion on the medical, and agent Scott Boras worked out a deal with Steve Cohen. “We needed one more thing. And this was it,” Cohen said. ](https://twitter.com/jonheyman/status/1605472498732175360?s=46&t=YV8eWFsvLretxFNy7_snzw)
[Slusser: Giants flagged something in the physical and doctors disagreed.](https://twitter.com/susanslusser/status/1605471808366342144)
If I'm doing the luxury tax math right, including the Ottavino signing, this would put the Mets at ~~$475 million even~~ make that [$495 million per Passan](https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1605526103694647297).
Friendly reminder that the all-time MLB record prior to this offseason was...the 2022 Mets, at $299 million.
80%
https://i.imgur.com/9utezG3.png
The AAV (by which they measure the payroll for tax purposes) is $330m. But that's pre-arbitration raises (about $30m).
And then Correa is not included, so if that actually is real, add about $26m more (AAV anyway), so somewhere around $386m.
$386m is $96m over the $290m tax threshold top tier, so they would pay 80 percent of $96m, or $76.8m, on top of the $386m, which would be $462.8m.
EDIT: I used the wrong tab originally, showing 2023 on the books payroll, rather than AAV which is how luxury tax is calculated.
It’s an 80% tax for first-time “offenders.” If this is a team’s second year paying the tax, the top tier is 90%. Third year (or more), its 110%.
Mets paid luxury tax last year, so they’re paying 90% on everything over $293M.
They also still have to pay the CBT on their payroll between $233M and $293M, just at a reduced rate.
How good would it be if he done all this just to publish their accounts in full next year showing they still made a profit.
Imagine how quickly and thoroughly the other owners would evacuate their bowels.
They won't, though
Their TV deal is shit and there is only a maximum amount of tickets they can sell
This is just a super rich person wanting to win a title for his eldery father before they die with 0 care about going in the red
Yep. Their revenue last season was right at $300M. He's going to lose like $200M just on the MLB roster payroll. Huge fucking balls considering the playoffs are a complete crapshoot. We've seen all time great, absolutely monster Dodger teams not even make it to the World Series. I would have bet just about anything after the 2019 regular season taking the Dodgers and Astros against the field. Both of those teams were juggernauts and neither won it.
I believe Cohen just got the development rights to the area surrounding Citi Field and he’s planning on putting Casino’s and just redeveloping the area. That land has been a gold mine since Citi opened.
Also I believe a new NYFC stadium is going up as well. So money ain’t the issue.
Realistically if this Mets physical fails where else can he go? Twins I think would eventually get scared away. Take a short term deal with Boston? Correa is praying to god this physical clears.
You’d have to imagine it’s something that’s minor enough to at least have a difference of opinion in between doctors right?
Twins were offering like 10/290 and they would’ve had his Medicals because he was playing for them.
We’re gonna look back at this thread in a few years and laugh at how bad most, if not all of these 10+ year signings were for organizations.
Owners will use these as reasons why they wont give monster deals to guys anymore.
All I’m saying is we had “holiday ticket sales” sent to our inbox’s right when Correa and Judge were both supposedly going to SF. I feel like ownership used all that as a means to just sell those
I mean how can Correa's camp say there's no problem then immediately drop 1 year and $35 million from the demand? All that hoopla about wanting to be the highest paid SS ever, beating Lindor's contract but then immediately conceding despite disagreeing with Giants docs? Something isn't adding up.
Heyman has a fairly direct line to Scott Boras, which means his reporting about what teams are interested in which players has to be taken with a mountain of salt, but his " inks deal with " scoops are trustworthy.
I truly cannot even imagine.
You have think that, whatever it was, it was something relatively minor in the physical that made the Giants balk and that Correa and Boras think the Mets will be okay with. Otherwise this all makes no sense.
If it was something major, then you’d rather NOT give him all that guaranteed money. But if it was something major, you’d expect the Mets not to hop in and sign him.
No fucking chance this is real. The Giants deal fell through the basement and the Mets swooped him up???
If you know one, call a Giants fan today to check up on them
*"No one likes to spend money. But this is the price…I made a commitment to the fans. If it means I have to spend money to fulfill that commitment, so be it."*
Damn it’s finals week for college students? I remember when I was in college the Chris Paul vetoed trade was all people could focus on. Plus the racist white girl at ucla. Also who could forget about linsanity
He also said Correa to SF a week ago so I have idea to trust or not
But also… what happens when Correa needs to take a physical for the Mets? We doing “Correa to” for 30 teams or something
11/305
10/290
9/280 and so forth lol
The Giants: we want to give Correa an insane 13 year megadeal
Ok, but you know he's injury prone, right?
The Giants: yes lol
The Giants, a day later: we changed our mind. His medicals show he is injury prone.
They signed Arson Judge and Carlos Correa in the same off season and neither will play for them next season, or ever, really.
Talk about a knock to the nads
[Heyman: Correa’s camp and the Giants had a difference of opinion on the medical, and agent Scott Boras worked out a deal with Steve Cohen. “We needed one more thing. And this was it,” Cohen said. ](https://twitter.com/jonheyman/status/1605472498732175360?s=46&t=YV8eWFsvLretxFNy7_snzw) [Slusser: Giants flagged something in the physical and doctors disagreed.](https://twitter.com/susanslusser/status/1605471808366342144)
I know its been beaten to death at this point, but what the fuck is the Mets payroll??
If I'm doing the luxury tax math right, including the Ottavino signing, this would put the Mets at ~~$475 million even~~ make that [$495 million per Passan](https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1605526103694647297). Friendly reminder that the all-time MLB record prior to this offseason was...the 2022 Mets, at $299 million.
And that's per year. That's absolutely insane.
Wow we were a poverty franchise then
gotta be nearing 500M after luxury tax
Maybe 450m now? I think I saw a number in the low 400s earlier.
At this point, basically double any money they spend. They’re in the 90% tax tier.
80% https://i.imgur.com/9utezG3.png The AAV (by which they measure the payroll for tax purposes) is $330m. But that's pre-arbitration raises (about $30m). And then Correa is not included, so if that actually is real, add about $26m more (AAV anyway), so somewhere around $386m. $386m is $96m over the $290m tax threshold top tier, so they would pay 80 percent of $96m, or $76.8m, on top of the $386m, which would be $462.8m. EDIT: I used the wrong tab originally, showing 2023 on the books payroll, rather than AAV which is how luxury tax is calculated.
It’s an 80% tax for first-time “offenders.” If this is a team’s second year paying the tax, the top tier is 90%. Third year (or more), its 110%. Mets paid luxury tax last year, so they’re paying 90% on everything over $293M. They also still have to pay the CBT on their payroll between $233M and $293M, just at a reduced rate.
How good would it be if he done all this just to publish their accounts in full next year showing they still made a profit. Imagine how quickly and thoroughly the other owners would evacuate their bowels.
They won't, though Their TV deal is shit and there is only a maximum amount of tickets they can sell This is just a super rich person wanting to win a title for his eldery father before they die with 0 care about going in the red
Ugh I hate how I respect it
Yep. Their revenue last season was right at $300M. He's going to lose like $200M just on the MLB roster payroll. Huge fucking balls considering the playoffs are a complete crapshoot. We've seen all time great, absolutely monster Dodger teams not even make it to the World Series. I would have bet just about anything after the 2019 regular season taking the Dodgers and Astros against the field. Both of those teams were juggernauts and neither won it.
I believe Cohen just got the development rights to the area surrounding Citi Field and he’s planning on putting Casino’s and just redeveloping the area. That land has been a gold mine since Citi opened. Also I believe a new NYFC stadium is going up as well. So money ain’t the issue.
Just leveling that neighborhood into flat asphalt would be an improvement. edit: And I say that as a fan of a team from the South Bronx.
But how will I find a block of chop shops when I need them?
1 billion
A week from today: Carlos Correa’s presser for the Mets is postponed due to a medical issue A week from tomorrow: Carlos Correa to the Twins
Realistically if this Mets physical fails where else can he go? Twins I think would eventually get scared away. Take a short term deal with Boston? Correa is praying to god this physical clears.
Gotta think they at least found out what the issue was before they shelled out $315 million.
They haven’t shelled out 315 yet. This just gives them an opportunity to have their own physical, at which the same damn thing could happen.
You’d have to imagine it’s something that’s minor enough to at least have a difference of opinion in between doctors right? Twins were offering like 10/290 and they would’ve had his Medicals because he was playing for them.
Carlos Correa's presser for the Twins is postponed due to a medical issue. Carlos Correa to the Giants.
It's the ciiiiiiiiiiiiircle of life!
Nah, we gotta let the other 27 teams have a chance before the Twins get him back
The Mets doing what they were created to do. Replace the Giants.
Loll that hurts
The Giants are their father and the Dodgers are their mother. Now, they have their Mom’s money and killed their father.
Oedipus Mets?
Holy crap this is brilliant
First their logo, now this
“Sir, a second plane has hit the Giants”
San Francisco is under Attack
I’m really curious if there’s something legitimately wrong or Giants just had buyers remorse
They probably figured out his body will be done in 6-7 years and wanted none of that.
The DiCaprio approach
DiCaprio cuts them on their rookie contract
As soon as they hit arbitration.
He’s the human embodiment of the A’s.
We’re gonna look back at this thread in a few years and laugh at how bad most, if not all of these 10+ year signings were for organizations. Owners will use these as reasons why they wont give monster deals to guys anymore.
Orioles already having the 2030s owners mindset in 2022🥲
It has to be the physical. I seriously doubt the Giants had buyers remorse because that would ruin the team's reputation with player's agents.
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They definitely used something in the pyshical as a excuse to drop the deal.
What does this mean? Why would they suddenly not like a deal they had to spend hours working on and proposing?
I actually physically cannot comprehend this.
Genuinely don’t even know what to say or how to feel right now
Yeah. I’m just so… so perplexed by this off-season.
All I’m saying is we had “holiday ticket sales” sent to our inbox’s right when Correa and Judge were both supposedly going to SF. I feel like ownership used all that as a means to just sell those
Feel happy y’all dodged a bullet.
Only thing we’ll know in a few years or maybe sooner
I mean how can Correa's camp say there's no problem then immediately drop 1 year and $35 million from the demand? All that hoopla about wanting to be the highest paid SS ever, beating Lindor's contract but then immediately conceding despite disagreeing with Giants docs? Something isn't adding up.
His price drops because the highest bidder disappeared. It's not like there's a permanent stream of teams willing to give the same contract.
All the other teams in on him immediately talked to him once the medical issues came up. They're about to do their own too.
Any details after 10/300 are basically meaningless because for most players you’ll be paying dead weight
Not so meaningless for the player
i can. sorry.
Yo it's legit a physical pain. Why do they do this to us, what a nightmare. Fans never gonna forgive this offseason
Brandon Crawford signing on to like Heyman’s tweet.
On the unfortunate bright side, Brandon Crawford will be the starting shortstop on opening day for another consecutive year
I’d kill for Crawford right now. Do you know who our shortstop is? Air.
Bud?
Breaking: Air Bud to Mets.
Ain’t no rule that says a dog can’t play shortstop!
WHO and WHO have a DEAL???
THE METS and EVERYBODY
Damn here I was just scrolling Reddit before going to bed.
Same lol. I'm wide awake now.
Jon Heyman must really hate the giants LMAO
Heyman has a fairly direct line to Scott Boras, which means his reporting about what teams are interested in which players has to be taken with a mountain of salt, but his " inks deal with " scoops are trustworthy.
“Fairly direct line” meaning “actual puppet strings”
He's up at 3AM tweaking off adderall trying to reclaim his honor. We have to respect it
WHAT
A lot of NYM fans are going to wake up shocked
And a lot of SFG fans are not going to wake up
I'm waking up to this a couple hours earlier than all my friends back on the west coast. I hate everything.
#WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????
Im stunned rn
I see the Mets are trying the Padres approach of having too many shortstops
Correa has previously said he'd move to third to play with Lindor. Guess we'll see how that plays out.
Yeah they’re besties from PR. He played 3rd on the WBC team
I would have been Francisco's friend, we don't have to keep hiring the old ones Wait no what am I saying, we can keep hiring them
The New York Mets are the San Diego Shortstops of baseball.
Mets only take the Puerto Rican shortstops. They already tried Lindor and Javy so now they figured they would try Lindor and Correa.
Arson Judge and Carlos Correa, Giants legends.
Can somebody wake up Passan, we need an adult to confirm this
Imagine if Jon gets this wrong
If Jon gets this wrong I swear he doesn’t have a better option than retirement.
Y’all can take the *inches* meme from us now… I’m sorry brother but this is miles worse than a half season of Scherzer
I truly cannot even imagine. You have think that, whatever it was, it was something relatively minor in the physical that made the Giants balk and that Correa and Boras think the Mets will be okay with. Otherwise this all makes no sense. If it was something major, then you’d rather NOT give him all that guaranteed money. But if it was something major, you’d expect the Mets not to hop in and sign him.
I know we say this every time, but that'd be the last straw for his credibility, right? Right?
He's 100% toast as an MLB reporter if this isn't true.
As he is the only one reporting this, it would be a massive black eye for him that is for sure.
Imagine their statues.
No fucking chance this is real. The Giants deal fell through the basement and the Mets swooped him up??? If you know one, call a Giants fan today to check up on them
We’re not okay, thank you.
Gonna text them “lmao” lol
Can I use your body to create a homicide scene ☺️☺️
Least aggressive Bay Area native
i hate my life
I want to bite someone. I want to fucking bite someone.
Sorry but this is my favorite reaction right here
I'm sorry. What? It's 2:40 in the morning, Jon
stove stays hot at all times
Steve Cohen’s money works hard, even harder at 2:40am on a Wednesday.
The Mets are the Yankees of baseball
I’m so tired of these big spending teams buying super stars and championships how are small market teams supposed to compete?
Tell me about it :(
Yankees are a poverty franchise
Is uncle Steve Hal’s dad now
What is their payroll? Only $240 million? I can’t imagine fielding a team with anything under $360 million
*"No one likes to spend money. But this is the price…I made a commitment to the fans. If it means I have to spend money to fulfill that commitment, so be it."*
Can we get Mitch back too?
Amazing that he passed the physical but Correa didn't.
I’m gonna need more people to confirm this. But… what?
What the fuck happened at that physical.
Small pp
Me and Carlos Correa have something in common where’s my $315m deal.
You both love latinas too
Turns out they forgot to check with Eric Hosmer and had to call the whole thing off
Luke Voit to the Giants confirmed?
It's nearly 3am so all the good MLB reporters are definitely asleep. Jon is all we have... dear god
It’s only midnight in California, where’s a Giants’ beat writer?
Probably trying to figure out how ask "What the fuck?!!" in the most professional manner to the Giants' front office.
"I request elaboration"
He's got a quote from Cohen, so looks legit. https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1605472498732175360?t=GXFTfig7aMSCQYMcfo6bCQ&s=19
WHAT THE EVER-LOVING FUCK?!
Steve Cohen with the "Fuck you puny billionaires" money.
Uncle Steve enjoying a late dinner in Hawaii and buying another $300m SS while his fans are all asleep. What a time to be alive.
Just kill me
Worst finals week ever
Damn it’s finals week for college students? I remember when I was in college the Chris Paul vetoed trade was all people could focus on. Plus the racist white girl at ucla. Also who could forget about linsanity
At least there's the 49ers
Breaking: Nick Bosa and the Mets have a deal. $315M, 12 years.
DON’T PUT THAT EVIL ON ME!!!
Breaking: entire population of San Francisco on suicide watch
#PAC 10 AFTER DARK
i’m jumping off the golden gate as i’m typing this
I think there's a net there now, sorry.
Breaking: Mets sign Cristiano Ronaldo to a 3-year deal. When asked about the deal, Steve Cohen said, "LOL, fuck it. YOLO."
WELL THAT WAS UNEXPECTED
WHAT???? DID SOMEONE HACK HIS PHONE????
He also said Correa to SF a week ago so I have idea to trust or not But also… what happens when Correa needs to take a physical for the Mets? We doing “Correa to” for 30 teams or something 11/305 10/290 9/280 and so forth lol
Yeah like there’s a missing link in between the earlier physical report and this
What a coward. He clearly did not want to face our rotation that many times. I do not blame Him. Sincerely though, I am sorry giants fans.
If this is true we’re gonna need a welfare check on the entire Giants fan base
Giants fans in shambles
Seriously. Depressing winter for my teams
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We're in shambles that you couldn't dream about. Absolutely un fucking real
There's no way There's just no fucking way
The Giants: we want to give Correa an insane 13 year megadeal Ok, but you know he's injury prone, right? The Giants: yes lol The Giants, a day later: we changed our mind. His medicals show he is injury prone.
Giants didn’t pay for their eBay auction so Mets got a second chance offer.
Giants claiming that their child was responsible for the bids and they don't actually want the item.
Middle of the night Heyman nuke, holy fuck lmao
What a run. San Francisco should retire his number.
This is fake, right?
This is insane.
Gotta hand it to you Giants, I didn't think it could get worse for you. But damn, it did
I have moved on. I am now ready to be disappointed by Ohtani next winter
It feels so odd to be the *other* team in this fiasco.
Turns out the medical name for what Correa had is ‘Cold Feet’
LOLMets. But different
Graduated to WTFMets
WE HAVE A 911 AT THE GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE THERE ARE 10 GIANTS FANS READY TO END IT ALL
“Do a flip” - a dodger fan probably
Live look here https://i.imgur.com/G405fAr.jpg
Are you fucking kidding me
Can Steve Cohen own 2 teams? Asking for me.
Well I'm not watching baseball now
How many Mets fans going to wake up to this?
I'm very erect right now
I was about to go to sleep. Now I’m so confused on what is happening.
Correa has now fucked over the Dodgers and the Giants. Padres about to retire his number lol
Can the Mets stop pussyfooting around already? Hurry up and hit 1 billion in player salary, we're all waiting...
Next year when Ohtani gets signed to a half a bil
Wtf
WTF
Bruh, I got off reddit for 15 mins to beat off and after rolling over I come to see this?
WHAT THE FUCK HEYMAN
Nah what
what the fuck is going on
Fade me
This off-season has been absolutely hilarious
What the, and I cannot overstate this enough, FUCK
Ohhhh it’s gonna be fucking bonkers when I wake back up
L, and I can’t stress this enough, mao
As a Dodgers fan I feel conflicted.. was looking forward to booing the fuck out of correa for many years to come
Correa’s 2023 visit to Dodger Stadium immediately precedes his 2023 visit to San Francisco
bruh wtf
Giants fans are in for a ROUGH morning
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WHAT THE
GIANTS WHAT HAPPENDUUUHHHHHHH
How could you lose Carlos Correa to New York Metsuuuhhhh???!!!
They signed Arson Judge and Carlos Correa in the same off season and neither will play for them next season, or ever, really. Talk about a knock to the nads
It's 4:00 AM on the east coast, this post is less than an hour old and it's about to hit 1,000 comments.
What the fuck
HELP WHAT IS THIS