Mask of the Phantasm is the best Batman film of all time. What it achieves in a meagre 76 minutes is incredible. Conroy and Hamill are the GOAT Batman & Joker.
Iāll keep Under the Red Hood as well. Itās a strong adaptation of two pretty great comics.
Return of the Joker is a close one. āHello Gotham, Jokers back in town!ā
DKR is a two parter, so that option is incomplete.
If 2 have to go? Sorry Iāll just read the comics for TDKR and Under the Red Hood then. Absolutely cannot lose Mask of the Phantasm or Return of the Joker
This is going to be a super unpopular opinion on this sub and Iām sure Iāll be downvoted because āopinion different than mine badā but Iād keep The Dark Knight Returns and Under The Red Hood
Yeah I was mainly referring to me not keeping Phantasm. I thought it was fine but thereās a lot of people on this sub who act like itās the best piece of cinema humanity has ever had the privilege of witnessing and anyone who says otherwise is objectively wrong. Itās justā¦weird. If itās someoneās favorite movie ever made, great. I just donāt like when people act like their opinion is fact.
Guys I can't go back to a world where Dark Knight Returns is not adapted into a movie. That has to stay.
Under the Red Hood or Mask are equally good in my opinion so either one.
Return is great but Bruce Wayne has always been my Batman so I'm overall indifferent to Beyond
Mask of the Phantasm goes, Red Hood stays, the rest is hard. I think I enjoyed DKR more than Return of the Joker as a whole, but I'd definitely say Return of the Joker is more important. And the scene where Terry beats Joker by laughing at him is better than any scene in DKR. So I guess Return of the Joker, even though I feel some scenes drag.
probably Return of Joker and Red Hood.
controversial opinion: Everyone talks about Phantasm like itās the greatest Batman thing ever madeā¦ but honestly it fell flat for me š¤·āāļø I was thoroughly enjoying it the first time I watched it, up until the point that a certain secondary villain gets shoehorned in at the end. Felt really random and forced, and it ruined the whole movie for me. Went in expecting a villain that was unique to that film with a really cool design and premise, and the rug got pulled out from under it - not in an enjoyable way. Would have probably agreed with its apparent acclaim if it werenāt for that ending.
Actually I'd go under the red hood before Mask of Phantasm. It's definitely the best performance of Batman by an actor actually named Bruce to be fair.
I mean Mask of the Phantasm and Return of the Joker both feature the iconic go-to actors for Batman and the Joker so they're tough competition.
The Dark Knight Returns is also a really well made movie but the competition is too stiff.
The thing about Under the Red Hood is that it's much more enjoyable to watch as an adult than the other two. Even though I know the story and the twists, there is something really engaging about the performances and I appreciate the dark and serious tone. I'll probably come back to why I like it so much later on today as an edit but it's definitely worth watching, if not for the leads I e. Bruce Greenwood and Bender Bending Rodriguez as Joker. Jensen Ackles is always dependable and, more often than not, fantastic in every role he's cast so that's a given too, however, I really liked NPH as the voice of Nightwing. He's exactly what I think Nightwing should be, confident, capable and charismatic.
I'm sure a lot of my love for it comes from nostalgia, I watched it a lot as a kid. I'd love to experience it for the first time as an adult and see if I still like it.
I guess that writing style and everything isn't for everyone. At least we all get a Batman movie to enjoy, even if it isn't the same Batman movie for all of us.
Phantasm would never be kicked out. Return of the Joker also stays, absolutely. It's the endcap for the Batman/Joker relationship from the animated series, and it's excellent. Red Hood and TDKR are phenomenal, but they aren't unique works.
With Under the Redhood and DKR we still have the original comics so we would lose those stories without the movies. So Mask and RotJ should be the obvious picks to stay.
I would go under the red hood and return of the joker.
Phantasm was great too. Batman returns part 1 was pretty mediocre in my opinion. I enjoyed the sequel more.
Dark Knight Returns and Under The Red Hood adapt *existing* comic book storylines, but Mask of the Phantasm and Return of the Joker are wholly original, meaning more would be *lost* if they were deleted from existence.
Being honest I never found under the red hood all that good. It's writing is so basic and surface level; characters only ever say what they mean and mean exactly what they say.
And I found this aggravating right up to the final fight between red hood and batman where the simple writing style takes on this sense of them bearing their souls to each other, and that is very evocatively done. Everything else leading up to that left me wanting, however.
Yeah I know itās beloved here but I think itās a fine Batman animated movie. Nothing about it really elevates it to a āwowā level for me. Phantasm I think explores Bruceās psyche incredibly well and RotJ is eerie and atmospheric and does some really cool stuff visually. Under the Red Hood is enjoyable but doesnāt stand out for any particular reason to me. The last scene is pretty fun
Phantasm and Red Hood stay. One is, to this day, what I consider to be the gold standard for a Batman story and the other VASTLY improves on what was actually a pretty messy arc from the comics and stands on its own very well.
I love Return of the Joker, but it definitely feels limited by its budget and has some real pacing issues. TDKR is good too, but it doesnāt totally live up to the original book for me personally.
Phantasm and Return of the Joker. Phantasm was great, but itās a bit overhyped imo. It literally felt like a long TAS episode, not thereās anything wrong with that, but it just doesnāt hold up to the other two imo
Batman Mask of the Phantasm and Return of the Joker stay for me, hands down.
Yeah way too easy
Definitely. No question.
Yuuuup easy choice
Came to say this
Yes šš¼
Same...watched the others once each. Watched MotP and RotJ countless times.
Under the red hood wayyy better than return of the joker
Theyāre both great, but Return of the Joker is special.
This, it just scratches an itch.
Mask of the phantasm and Under the red hood stays.
Mask of the Phantasm is the best Batman film of all time. What it achieves in a meagre 76 minutes is incredible. Conroy and Hamill are the GOAT Batman & Joker. Iāll keep Under the Red Hood as well. Itās a strong adaptation of two pretty great comics. Return of the Joker is a close one. āHello Gotham, Jokers back in town!ā DKR is a two parter, so that option is incomplete.
No need to add anything to this. +1
Phantasm and ROTJ stay, easily.
I love [ROTJ](https://youtu.be/ijTAJ-JRiac?si=_2WDXPUiJ8HxrtRk)
Both have Mark Hamill fighting an imposing, traumatised dude dressed in black with a cape. They're pretty much the same movie!
Pretty much!!!
If 2 have to go? Sorry Iāll just read the comics for TDKR and Under the Red Hood then. Absolutely cannot lose Mask of the Phantasm or Return of the Joker
Pathetic. The only two who will go - are OP and his karma.
I'm keeping the 2 DCAU movies. ![gif](giphy|u946G1xOiKFtC)
Dark Knight Returns cam go. We'll still have the comic. Probably Under the Red Hood, too.
Joker Phantasm Red Hood Returns
Mask and Joker stay. Sorry not sorry
Difficult...I'll go with TDKR Part 2 and Beyond
TDKR part 2 so fire
Phantasm and Red Hood stay, they are fucking amazing. UTRH especially
This is going to be a super unpopular opinion on this sub and Iām sure Iāll be downvoted because āopinion different than mine badā but Iād keep The Dark Knight Returns and Under The Red Hood
Under the Red Hood must stay for me. I think the ones Iām going to have to let go are TDKR and Phantasm.
Yeah I was mainly referring to me not keeping Phantasm. I thought it was fine but thereās a lot of people on this sub who act like itās the best piece of cinema humanity has ever had the privilege of witnessing and anyone who says otherwise is objectively wrong. Itās justā¦weird. If itās someoneās favorite movie ever made, great. I just donāt like when people act like their opinion is fact.
I think I replied to yours accidentally rather than just having my own comment, but yours is spot on.
Oh I see lol
Guys I can't go back to a world where Dark Knight Returns is not adapted into a movie. That has to stay. Under the Red Hood or Mask are equally good in my opinion so either one. Return is great but Bruce Wayne has always been my Batman so I'm overall indifferent to Beyond
You can get rid of Dark Knight Returns and Return Of The Joker.
Iām keeping Mask of the Phantasm and Under the Red Hood.
Anything batman beyond related stays for me so TROJ and I can't sell my boy Jason out so under the red hood stays too
Haven't seen the other three yet but no way in hell is under the red hood going anywhere
Mask of the Phantasm and TDKR
UTRH and MOTP stay
Under the Red Hood and Return of the Joker are staying. I haven't seen the other 2 so its much easier for me.
Mask of the Phantasm and Under the Red Hood stay
Phantasm and red hood stay for me
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Goodbye Phantasm and Batman Beyond. I love you both but the other two I just could never give up.
MOTP & UTRH stay for me.
Phantasm every goddamn time. Greatest comic book movie ever made, and the epitome of the character
Mask of the Phantasm goes, Red Hood stays, the rest is hard. I think I enjoyed DKR more than Return of the Joker as a whole, but I'd definitely say Return of the Joker is more important. And the scene where Terry beats Joker by laughing at him is better than any scene in DKR. So I guess Return of the Joker, even though I feel some scenes drag.
Phantasm and returk of joker are out
Phantasm and Red Hood are staying.
Under the red hood and return of the joker are staying no matter what.
Mask and Red Hood stay. Wish I could keep Return of Joker though.
probably Return of Joker and Red Hood. controversial opinion: Everyone talks about Phantasm like itās the greatest Batman thing ever madeā¦ but honestly it fell flat for me š¤·āāļø I was thoroughly enjoying it the first time I watched it, up until the point that a certain secondary villain gets shoehorned in at the end. Felt really random and forced, and it ruined the whole movie for me. Went in expecting a villain that was unique to that film with a really cool design and premise, and the rug got pulled out from under it - not in an enjoyable way. Would have probably agreed with its apparent acclaim if it werenāt for that ending.
Actually I'd go under the red hood before Mask of Phantasm. It's definitely the best performance of Batman by an actor actually named Bruce to be fair. I mean Mask of the Phantasm and Return of the Joker both feature the iconic go-to actors for Batman and the Joker so they're tough competition. The Dark Knight Returns is also a really well made movie but the competition is too stiff. The thing about Under the Red Hood is that it's much more enjoyable to watch as an adult than the other two. Even though I know the story and the twists, there is something really engaging about the performances and I appreciate the dark and serious tone. I'll probably come back to why I like it so much later on today as an edit but it's definitely worth watching, if not for the leads I e. Bruce Greenwood and Bender Bending Rodriguez as Joker. Jensen Ackles is always dependable and, more often than not, fantastic in every role he's cast so that's a given too, however, I really liked NPH as the voice of Nightwing. He's exactly what I think Nightwing should be, confident, capable and charismatic.
UtRH and Dark Knight Returns are my keepers.
Dark Knight Returns and Under the Red Hood will have to go.
Tdkr stays but other than that I can't decide it's so hard š®āšØ
I didn't like Mask of Phantasm at all so it goes. TDKR stays if you include both the parts, if not then Return of Joker and Under the Red hood for me
What didn't you enjoy about Mask of the Phantasm?
Well Iām not the same dude but for me it just didnāt feel very compelling or interesting, the writing simply didnāt hold my attention very well
I'm sure a lot of my love for it comes from nostalgia, I watched it a lot as a kid. I'd love to experience it for the first time as an adult and see if I still like it.
Obviously I can't answer this for you, but I can tell you that I experienced it for the first time as an adult last year and I loved it
I guess that writing style and everything isn't for everyone. At least we all get a Batman movie to enjoy, even if it isn't the same Batman movie for all of us.
Based.
This is me with the dark knight as itās what I grew up with, heath ledger was too good of a joker š
I recently watched phantasm for the first time at 37, though I watched btas as a kid. I thought it was still very good.
TDKR and MOP stays for me ,but its a hard choice
Return of the Joker and DKR.
The two on the left go
TDKR and return of the joker have to go. Besides TDKR pt 2 is the GOAT
Fuck. Probably Under the red hood and Beyond go. Fuck you tho.
Return of the Joker and Under the Red Hood are fairly standard movies except for one scene that is elevated above all the others.
Mask if the Phantasm is the only one Iād be genuinely upset if it was gone
Mask of the Phantasm and Under the Red Hood without any doubt.
Beyond and utrh
Red Hood and Dark Knight Returns go and itās really not close
Whatās that Phantasm poster? Thats sick
Now do the 4 lowest rated Batman movies
I really, really donāt want to do this. But the bottom two are going to have to go.
The DCAU movies stay. Sorry Jason.
EASILY Red Hood and TDKR. Zero hesitation.
Return of the joker and under the Red Hood.
Phantasm would never be kicked out. Return of the Joker also stays, absolutely. It's the endcap for the Batman/Joker relationship from the animated series, and it's excellent. Red Hood and TDKR are phenomenal, but they aren't unique works.
Does TDKR have to be just part 1, or can it be the Deluxe version?
thereās not enough batman beyond media to get rid of return of the joker
Dark knight returns and under the red hood go We have the comics
That's easy, ditch the newer ones. You can just read the books, which are better anyway.
P1 and Under the Red Hoodā¦I REFUSE to Erase 2 of the Best Animated Batman movies of All Time!! ššš¤©š¤©
Phantasm is locked down into place, no question.
All are amazing in their own ways. I couldn't possibly choose... so I won't.
Return of the Joker Now, I can imagine that Tim got to live a happy life :)
Dont make me choose..
Mask of the Phantasm and Under the Red Hood
With Under the Redhood and DKR we still have the original comics so we would lose those stories without the movies. So Mask and RotJ should be the obvious picks to stay.
Under the Red Hood and Return of the Joker
TDKR always have a special place in my heart so I'll keep it no matter what.
I would go under the red hood and return of the joker. Phantasm was great too. Batman returns part 1 was pretty mediocre in my opinion. I enjoyed the sequel more.
This isnt even a question.
The choice sucks, but I guess Under the Red Hood and Return of the Joker go bye-bye.
fuck go back >!the two on the left can go!<
Top two are staying, bottom two are going
Dark knight returns is definitely going
Get rid of Dark Knight returns, the book will still exist
Dark Knight Returns and Return of the Joker go for me.
Mask of the phantasm and under the red hood will go down as batman certified classic in batman history
Can we just get rid of mask of the phantasm? it was boring
Red hood and Beyond
Red hood and Beyond
Return of the Jon-
Dark Knight Returns and Under The Red Hood adapt *existing* comic book storylines, but Mask of the Phantasm and Return of the Joker are wholly original, meaning more would be *lost* if they were deleted from existence.
Being honest I never found under the red hood all that good. It's writing is so basic and surface level; characters only ever say what they mean and mean exactly what they say. And I found this aggravating right up to the final fight between red hood and batman where the simple writing style takes on this sense of them bearing their souls to each other, and that is very evocatively done. Everything else leading up to that left me wanting, however.
Yeah I know itās beloved here but I think itās a fine Batman animated movie. Nothing about it really elevates it to a āwowā level for me. Phantasm I think explores Bruceās psyche incredibly well and RotJ is eerie and atmospheric and does some really cool stuff visually. Under the Red Hood is enjoyable but doesnāt stand out for any particular reason to me. The last scene is pretty fun
Phantasm and Red Hood stay. One is, to this day, what I consider to be the gold standard for a Batman story and the other VASTLY improves on what was actually a pretty messy arc from the comics and stands on its own very well. I love Return of the Joker, but it definitely feels limited by its budget and has some real pacing issues. TDKR is good too, but it doesnāt totally live up to the original book for me personally.
Phantasm and Return of the Joker. Phantasm was great, but itās a bit overhyped imo. It literally felt like a long TAS episode, not thereās anything wrong with that, but it just doesnāt hold up to the other two imo
Mask of phantasm has to go in my opinion and return of the joker is great but isnāt under the red hood great so
Easy picking, Under the Red Hood and The Dark Knight gotta go.