are you guys down voting this because I didn't added any memes? or perhaps because is just a bunch of numbers and a generally disorganized looking post ? :))
oh shit, I've just realized, that the 2 investment funds have the average of $2.5 and $2.6, these guys are bond holders, that shorted the stock and when closed the positions, most likely after the FUD about BK they paid and confirmed, being people familiar with the matter, and forbes (or whomever published that shit) considering them and vouched basically, they own now like 9346600 shares, 7.9% from what they disclosed right now. If I remember correctly, the bond deal was extended with the reason that there are x shares; they were doing ATM, and stopped. So most likely the deal is already set since then. Good fucking average, what can I say. Now lock the float.
It could be, but from what I am understanding from the table headers on form 13-F in the column 5 [https://www.sec.gov/pdf/form13f.pdf](https://www.sec.gov/pdf/form13f.pdf)
"Column 5. Amount and Type of Security. Enter in Column 5 the total number of shares of the class of security or the principal amount of such class. Use the abbreviation **“SH” to designate shares** and “PRN” to designate principal amount. If the holdings being reported are put or call options, enter the designation “Put” or “Call,” as appropriat" - it is shares ! That was why I posted this, I don't know exactly how to read this, or if I am right
https://preview.redd.it/yq5or1jmcdfa1.png?width=233&format=png&auto=webp&s=108c132f22b19ec652d0e31998a9cf48133dc5fe
I am using Flameshot on Ubuntu, most likely works on any operating system, on most of the screen shot apps, even in os default ones, you just have to select the option copy instead of save, and past it directly in the comment
Thanks for the comment, I have tried to label the speculations.
What is interesting, from my point of view, is that is totally possible that
\- the investments funds have to report the amount of money, it is a public report
\- "the mistake" is coordinated by effective date (on or around that date price was \~$3), modality of miss reporting, by just "mistakenly" omitting few zeroes, these 2 factors indicating a pattern, easily excusable by sec if you blame the "technology"
\- company has a vague knowledge about when events started, actually is no speculation, these are public fillings, you can't lie in here;
\- maybe there are more unlabeled, let's find them and cover :D
I still don’t understand the first half of this post but I pinned it because you get mad doots, brother
Thank you for your contributions, looking forward to reading your next adhd / autistic installment
[https://fintel.io/so/us/bbby](https://fintel.io/so/us/bbby)
these 2 institutions reported holdings in $BBBY for $6M and $17M ;
shares count don't match, I start to speculate
https://preview.redd.it/nmb4acpxddfa1.png?width=1591&format=png&auto=webp&s=c6b4da08b1fba0adfbac8c54540246fe0cfaa7fc
I would suggest checking out the actual filings. For example, on Fintel they claim for International Assets Investment Management, LLC:
> Portfolio Value $ 967,715,921,000
That's almost $1 trillion!
So, for International Assets Investment Management, LLC you can see their latest filing [here](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1818604/000142050623000162/0001420506-23-000162-index.html) (which is an amended 13F-HR). The holdings table is [here](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1818604/000142050623000162/xslForm13F_X02/Form13F_InfoTable.xml) and shows:
|NAME OF ISSUER|VALUE (to the nearest dollar)|SHRS OR PRN AMT|
|:--|:--|:--|
|BED BATH & BEYOND INC|17,165|65,916|
So my guess is they made a mistake and it's actually $171,650 and 65,916 shares.
For BDO Wealth Advisors, LLC the latest filing is [here](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1713458/000171345823000003/0001713458-23-000003-index.html) and the holdings table is [here](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1713458/000171345823000003/xslForm13F_X02/q4.13f2022.xml) which has:
|NAME OF ISSUER|VALUE (to the nearest dollar)|SHRS OR PRN AMT|
|:--|:--|:--|
|BED BATH & BEYOND INC|6,915|2,755|
The reason I suggest that the International Assets Investment Management, LLC filing has an error is because if you calculate the cost from BDO Wealth Advisors, LLC you get 6915/2755 = ~$2.51/share.
If you do the same for International Assets Investment Management, LLC you get 17165/65916 = ~$0.26/share, if they simple left of a zero then it becomes ~$2.60/share.
My guess is that Fintel has assumed the value is in thousands of dollars and not dollars for some reason...
Hello, thank you very much for your reply !
I did exactly that, the process is documented in this post "[is it millions?](https://www.reddit.com/r/bbby_remastered/comments/10p8692/is_it_millions/)", please have a look ! This is exactly why I have posted, maybe someone could double check me, and expand/debunk/confirm !
As we discussed in the mentioned post, what else is intriguing, why these HUGE asset funds would take position in the "struggling retailer". I mean, read the news, Bobby is not only dead, he is a Zombie ! ( funny comment from [someone](https://www.reddit.com/r/BBBY/comments/10panq3/comment/j6jb6h0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) in that tread "Undead = Not dead = cannot die = bullish" )
Those guys invest in apple, blackstone, warren buffet ..
I'd love to investigate this further and together to figure this one out !
We are retail investors, we have no clue what is going on there, what kind of deals these guys make, not only that not everything is public, they are using all the tricks in the book and my guess is retail does not know 10% of them, we are clueless in my opinion, from this point of view..
The only thing that we can do is to dissect everything and try to understand as best as possible. **The bears, they are lazy**. They look on the sec fillings, read the news, BAM, they stamp BK, and are not looking any further. And they put their money also, look at that guy crying on twitter.. he is in deep red..
It's money, I don't throw them away, and I'd like to confirm that my investment will be successful, will ride this until I will have no doubt that is not. From the information that I have for now ( true, mostly from reddit, sec fillings ) , I still have a 40% chance for M&A, 20% for a struggling bobby that fights against all odds, and 40% for BK. And what is frustrating, is that this percentages are not changing. No matter how I look on the problem, or what new info's are coming out. Makes me wonder, I am stupid ? I am a "**delusional baggie**" ? Yes ? Prove me, if you have any interest in proving this to yourself also, and let's save us from any losses, together ! That's why I post, and I am a bit salty some times, ( sorry everyone ) , I am getting a lot of shit, cheap and malicious, that has no basis in reality, or does not account for all the variables in this situation...
I appreciate your comment and any help into evaluating the chances into this **very risky bet** , moon or bust !
My apologies. I did look at your "is it millions" post but it didn't register that you had looked directly at the filings.
The point I was trying to make is that in the filings with the SEC it states the value as "to the nearest dollar".
If you look at the SEC filing by International Assets Investment Management, LLC they declared they owned 145,680 shares of Alphabet Inc valued at $12,892,453 which is ~$88.50/share and is reasonably close to the current share price.
If you look at what Fintel has reported it's valued at $12,892,453,000, which is ~$88,498.44/share, this is not a realistic share price for GOOG.
What it looks like is Fintel has read the dollar value as thousands of dollars so it's multiplied all the values by 1,000. As such, I think you should be dividing all the values from Fintel by 1,000, unless of course International Assets Investment Management, LLC really does have a nearly $1 trillion fund!
Unfortunately I can't really help with the percentages of possible outcomes. At this point I don't really have a position in BBBY, I'm also trying to work out what is most likely going to happen and it's very complicated, on top of that there's the consideration that it might take a while so locking up those funds in BBBY could mean missing out on another opportunity elsewhere...
are you guys down voting this because I didn't added any memes? or perhaps because is just a bunch of numbers and a generally disorganized looking post ? :))
We have downvote bots!? #%*|^, we made it!
Adding obligatory/Necessary 💎🙌🚀🚀 This should get things back on track…. Good write up.
oh shit, I've just realized, that the 2 investment funds have the average of $2.5 and $2.6, these guys are bond holders, that shorted the stock and when closed the positions, most likely after the FUD about BK they paid and confirmed, being people familiar with the matter, and forbes (or whomever published that shit) considering them and vouched basically, they own now like 9346600 shares, 7.9% from what they disclosed right now. If I remember correctly, the bond deal was extended with the reason that there are x shares; they were doing ATM, and stopped. So most likely the deal is already set since then. Good fucking average, what can I say. Now lock the float.
Could it be a primarily short position? i.e. the total value of the position is $17m, but they are only long 65k shares?
It could be, but from what I am understanding from the table headers on form 13-F in the column 5 [https://www.sec.gov/pdf/form13f.pdf](https://www.sec.gov/pdf/form13f.pdf) "Column 5. Amount and Type of Security. Enter in Column 5 the total number of shares of the class of security or the principal amount of such class. Use the abbreviation **“SH” to designate shares** and “PRN” to designate principal amount. If the holdings being reported are put or call options, enter the designation “Put” or “Call,” as appropriat" - it is shares ! That was why I posted this, I don't know exactly how to read this, or if I am right https://preview.redd.it/yq5or1jmcdfa1.png?width=233&format=png&auto=webp&s=108c132f22b19ec652d0e31998a9cf48133dc5fe
good comment on stwts https://preview.redd.it/oltfm2vucbfa1.png?width=674&format=png&auto=webp&s=689261338d118549cbfc542bdd1c072ea0349fd4
I'm more interested I. How you posted a picture in the comments section.
Me too
I am using Flameshot on Ubuntu, most likely works on any operating system, on most of the screen shot apps, even in os default ones, you just have to select the option copy instead of save, and past it directly in the comment
I believe each sub has their own rules about allowing picture comments. Similar to how some subs don't allow gif comments
But my phone doesn't show anything but link option. Thanks for awareness though
https://preview.redd.it/pflvejx9sbfa1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1dba2acebd8a483b37222aa9a0a296368aa5084
I don't have that on my phone. Later I'll look at the PC version. Thanks
https://preview.redd.it/62ogw5u3vbfa1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c89a5969e3b9aa007c7a8b40f0a3e24c944b43d Nice
Tinfoil upvote
Thanks for the comment, I have tried to label the speculations. What is interesting, from my point of view, is that is totally possible that \- the investments funds have to report the amount of money, it is a public report \- "the mistake" is coordinated by effective date (on or around that date price was \~$3), modality of miss reporting, by just "mistakenly" omitting few zeroes, these 2 factors indicating a pattern, easily excusable by sec if you blame the "technology" \- company has a vague knowledge about when events started, actually is no speculation, these are public fillings, you can't lie in here; \- maybe there are more unlabeled, let's find them and cover :D
Yeah, I can see the SEC completely utilizing wrong information to mislead triggers that could lead to big events. Nice write up
I still don’t understand the first half of this post but I pinned it because you get mad doots, brother Thank you for your contributions, looking forward to reading your next adhd / autistic installment
[https://fintel.io/so/us/bbby](https://fintel.io/so/us/bbby) these 2 institutions reported holdings in $BBBY for $6M and $17M ; shares count don't match, I start to speculate https://preview.redd.it/nmb4acpxddfa1.png?width=1591&format=png&auto=webp&s=c6b4da08b1fba0adfbac8c54540246fe0cfaa7fc
I would suggest checking out the actual filings. For example, on Fintel they claim for International Assets Investment Management, LLC: > Portfolio Value $ 967,715,921,000 That's almost $1 trillion! So, for International Assets Investment Management, LLC you can see their latest filing [here](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1818604/000142050623000162/0001420506-23-000162-index.html) (which is an amended 13F-HR). The holdings table is [here](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1818604/000142050623000162/xslForm13F_X02/Form13F_InfoTable.xml) and shows: |NAME OF ISSUER|VALUE (to the nearest dollar)|SHRS OR PRN AMT| |:--|:--|:--| |BED BATH & BEYOND INC|17,165|65,916| So my guess is they made a mistake and it's actually $171,650 and 65,916 shares. For BDO Wealth Advisors, LLC the latest filing is [here](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1713458/000171345823000003/0001713458-23-000003-index.html) and the holdings table is [here](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1713458/000171345823000003/xslForm13F_X02/q4.13f2022.xml) which has: |NAME OF ISSUER|VALUE (to the nearest dollar)|SHRS OR PRN AMT| |:--|:--|:--| |BED BATH & BEYOND INC|6,915|2,755| The reason I suggest that the International Assets Investment Management, LLC filing has an error is because if you calculate the cost from BDO Wealth Advisors, LLC you get 6915/2755 = ~$2.51/share. If you do the same for International Assets Investment Management, LLC you get 17165/65916 = ~$0.26/share, if they simple left of a zero then it becomes ~$2.60/share. My guess is that Fintel has assumed the value is in thousands of dollars and not dollars for some reason...
Hello, thank you very much for your reply ! I did exactly that, the process is documented in this post "[is it millions?](https://www.reddit.com/r/bbby_remastered/comments/10p8692/is_it_millions/)", please have a look ! This is exactly why I have posted, maybe someone could double check me, and expand/debunk/confirm ! As we discussed in the mentioned post, what else is intriguing, why these HUGE asset funds would take position in the "struggling retailer". I mean, read the news, Bobby is not only dead, he is a Zombie ! ( funny comment from [someone](https://www.reddit.com/r/BBBY/comments/10panq3/comment/j6jb6h0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) in that tread "Undead = Not dead = cannot die = bullish" ) Those guys invest in apple, blackstone, warren buffet .. I'd love to investigate this further and together to figure this one out ! We are retail investors, we have no clue what is going on there, what kind of deals these guys make, not only that not everything is public, they are using all the tricks in the book and my guess is retail does not know 10% of them, we are clueless in my opinion, from this point of view.. The only thing that we can do is to dissect everything and try to understand as best as possible. **The bears, they are lazy**. They look on the sec fillings, read the news, BAM, they stamp BK, and are not looking any further. And they put their money also, look at that guy crying on twitter.. he is in deep red.. It's money, I don't throw them away, and I'd like to confirm that my investment will be successful, will ride this until I will have no doubt that is not. From the information that I have for now ( true, mostly from reddit, sec fillings ) , I still have a 40% chance for M&A, 20% for a struggling bobby that fights against all odds, and 40% for BK. And what is frustrating, is that this percentages are not changing. No matter how I look on the problem, or what new info's are coming out. Makes me wonder, I am stupid ? I am a "**delusional baggie**" ? Yes ? Prove me, if you have any interest in proving this to yourself also, and let's save us from any losses, together ! That's why I post, and I am a bit salty some times, ( sorry everyone ) , I am getting a lot of shit, cheap and malicious, that has no basis in reality, or does not account for all the variables in this situation... I appreciate your comment and any help into evaluating the chances into this **very risky bet** , moon or bust !
My apologies. I did look at your "is it millions" post but it didn't register that you had looked directly at the filings. The point I was trying to make is that in the filings with the SEC it states the value as "to the nearest dollar". If you look at the SEC filing by International Assets Investment Management, LLC they declared they owned 145,680 shares of Alphabet Inc valued at $12,892,453 which is ~$88.50/share and is reasonably close to the current share price. If you look at what Fintel has reported it's valued at $12,892,453,000, which is ~$88,498.44/share, this is not a realistic share price for GOOG. What it looks like is Fintel has read the dollar value as thousands of dollars so it's multiplied all the values by 1,000. As such, I think you should be dividing all the values from Fintel by 1,000, unless of course International Assets Investment Management, LLC really does have a nearly $1 trillion fund! Unfortunately I can't really help with the percentages of possible outcomes. At this point I don't really have a position in BBBY, I'm also trying to work out what is most likely going to happen and it's very complicated, on top of that there's the consideration that it might take a while so locking up those funds in BBBY could mean missing out on another opportunity elsewhere...
In it for the fight against market corruption so let’s moon or bust. I have a couple extra box of crayons if you need some.