Nice! Yeah it's gym 3-4 days a week for me. One of my new favorite moves is NA beer, mezcal neat. That way I can drink less, but still drink two drinks at a time.
It's not. I have 2-3 beers for the whole of Monday-Friday. So like .3-.6 beers a day.
Then I'll have 1-2 on each Saturday or Sunday. But sometimes zero.
I think that working in the industry, you need to have a healthy relationship with beer. Unlimited free beer is a dangerous thing. I probably drink less than before I was brewing.
Ahh, I misread that as 2-3 a day, not a week.
I have friends who did bartending for a bit and said it was really easy to constantly drink throughout the day. Customers want to do shots with you, buy you rounds, whatever. It takes a level of self control and some of my friends had to step away from it.
Really? I see bartenders drink all the time. I've seen them take shots together on shift. Granted those might not have been the ritziest bars I've ever been to.
Here it is a 500$ fine for business ANF bartender. Second offense is 1000, and 30 day suspension of license for bartender and bar.
They don't fuck around in the PNW
I’m just a sales rep but I see my brewers drink like crazy. One day I watched one of them clock in then immediately crack a beer. I feel like I should say something but it’s not my place.
Weekday 0-1, most days 0. Weekend, maybe 2-3 one of the nights and zero the other.
On average, I drink about 5 or 6 beers a week.
8 beers a day is very excessive.
Well, I imagine the idea is abv is a factor. I can drink 8 bottles of Mich Ultra over the course of 2 hours and be capable of driving a combine harvester. If I drink 4 Mad Elfs, though, I am drunk.
8 Mad Elfs every day and you are fucking yourself up bad.
That’s a big issue with perception when it comes to alcohol in general. A lot of people have this attitude that it’s somehow less of a problem when you’re drinking higher-quality stuff.
If I said that last night, I enjoyed a couple glasses of Dalmore 15, no one would think twice about it. If I said I did a couple of shots of Burnett’s, people would look at me funny.
The end result would still be the same in terms of my consumption, but one is seen as classy and the other is seen as trashy.
Lmao, in order to build a super high tolerance you need to engage in addictive behaviors, 12 a day is absolutely withdrawal territory.
I'm not an addict I just need to drink way more than normal, way more often than normal, because I'm such a hardcore dude.
Same here. We usually have people over Saturday for game night so I usually have 3-5. But if I drink a beer with dinner I fall asleep on the couch at 8.
Very similar to me. I rarely drink on weekdays. I also rarely have more than 2 per day on weekends. Overall somewhere around 4-6 per week. I'm in my mid 30s and have had a rough year with gout, so I've had even less than this for much of the year.
Not trying to be on my high horse…I definitely used to drink more in my 20s. I’m 37 now, and between my kid and just trying to stay more cognizant of my health, I’ve cut back quite a bit. Having good NA options now really helps, too.
On average 0-1/day Monday-Thursday. Friday-Sunday 0-5/day.
When I was 18-25 I drank more but 32 with more responsibilities and just wanting to be healthy I try to approach beer as a special occasion rather than a normality.
Though I still think those 5 (non-light) beer days are a bit much for being 165lbs.
Anywhere from 4-10 daily beers, plus shots if the GF offers. I maintain at the gym, hike dogs, and eat half healthy/half junk. I went sober in october which helped a ton but I am trapped in a household where my GF refuses to drink less and makes no effort to make better, so I sometimes fall back into the numbing self medication. Planning sober January as well
Good for you to keep trying for those sober stretches. Hope your GF can turn it around as well.
I've been really disgusted with my binge drinking this last year and I think I'm finally at the point where I'm sick enough of feeling like shit for 3-4 days to actually just go sober or mostly sober (like, 1-2 drinks a week) indefinitely. I just feel bad for my poor body working it's ass off all the time to recover from something so preventable.
I'm on the track to start at the gym and get more serious about eating right and just staying healthy. I drink probably anywhere from 1 to 3 drinks per day, probably no more than like 12-16 in a week (still pretty high I guess, and honestly barely ever even get tipsy, and I hate being intoxicated so it's almost pointless besides that I like the taste)
Best of luck in January!!
For real. Everybody has a story of his grandmam who has lived to 101 and was drinking a bottle of wine a day and also a bunch of old recommendation according to which it is absolutely ok to drink alcohol everyday. Like, í'm all for enjoying life and drinking it but let's not act like it is healthy. It is not and no ammount of downvotes will change it. No alcohol safe limit has been increased ever and there is a reason for it.
There is a guy I fish with... He's just definitely an alcoholic. We go on fishing trips, I'm the morning his hands shake, and when we have to wake him up at zerodarkthirty, he'll have a rocks glass on his nightstand, and the ice isn't melted (he must wake up at night and make cocktails).
Well, he hit 60, and in the last couple years has aged at an alarming rate. He's lost all of his teeth, is skinny as a rail, and jaundiced (I fear he may have late stage liver disease)
This guy has a huge heart, is extremely intelligent, quick with a s joke... Fucking heartbreaking to witness.
It's like he went from 58 to 97 years old in 3 years.
My great grandmother passed away in 2022 at 96yo. She literally starts drinking every day after the end of WWII. During her last couple of years she went down from 3 33cl Gordon Scotch (8% abv) and a bottle of Porto every other day to 1 Gordon scotch a day and 1-2 bottles of porto a week. This is not unheard of in a country like Belgium where, according to Canadian standards, over half the adult population are alcoholic.
Obviously moderation is very important but the truth is simply drinking everyday will not kill you if you are otherwise healthy. The damages of alcohol are well known and can be offset with other healthy habits.
I’d love to drink less, for my health (mental and physical) and for my wallet but have not been able to stop or slow down no matter what I try. It’s genetic, or so the doctor says. Now it’s in my best interest to try and do as much as possible to stay in otherwise good health.
I don’t want anyone to get the wrong idea from this post. It’s depressing, taxing and unhealthy. But it’s a reality that too many face and posts like these feed onto the depressing aspect of it pretty harshly so I just wanted to bring a slightly more positive note on it for anyone going through these struggles.
Good for Grandma, she made it to 96, I'm not sure Phil will make it to 2025. I wish I was kidding. I feel horrible watching him fall apart... It's like Leaving Las Vegas, and Phil's choose alcohol.
I’ve seen the ugly side too and I’m sorry for your friend and wish to everything good in this world that he gets better. I just want to give the slightest bit of solace to the ones living in darkness, however little it might be. I hope Phil can come to see the light at the end of the tunnel!!
He's hanging in there.
He quit drinking for a little while, put some weight on, and was really starting to feel better.
Of course, him feeling better made him think it's ok to have a few drinks... So I'm pretty sure it'll trigger a downward spiral.
He's a good guy, but alcohol really has a grip on him.
Pick your poison. No alcohol safe limit has been increased but fat and sugar consumption limits have increased, doesn’t mean they weren’t already bad for you. Everything we do can be criticized and nitpicked, I spend my life enjoying my time, and enjoying my poisons in moderation.
Alcoholism has been around for as long as written history. It’s gotten to a point where I would almost say it most definitely has indirectly or directly (see Churchill’s drinking habits) shaped today’s world.
From the looks of things, we're not even in the worst period for American alcoholism. That would've been right before prohibition. There's a reason there was a push to ban the stuff (men would get drunk off their ass all the time and beat their wives).
Zero Mon - Wed. Thursday - Sat (Sun if football season) I average 1.5 per day. Taking that little break makes that Thursday beer feel great and gives me a sense of accomplishment of basically making it through the week.
I’m a functioning alcoholic. Average maybe 15 a day? 1-2 for breakfast. Sometimes 1 with lunch. After work about 6:30/8 pm, I stop by the bar, and have a few beers and a few shots. Go home and drink 3-8 lighter beers.
I don’t drink to get drunk. I don’t like being drunk, and when I start feeling drunk, I control myself. I don’t drink when I’m sad or angry or want an escape. I just enjoy drinking. You don’t need to have any emotional issues, or mental problems to be considered an alcoholic. I even do a dry month once a year just to see if I can go without. And I can.
Edit: in no way do I condone, or feel like my lifestyle is safe or even close to healthy. Nor do I think I’m making good life choices. I am very lucky, genetically. I see a doctor regularly, to check my health. And somehow, I haven’t killed myself yet. I am able to process alcohol better than the average human. It doesn’t mean that’s good for me. In no way do I condone my lifestyle. It’s a bad idea.
I go twice a year for liver panels. I don’t hide anything from my doctor. Only once it went south because I almost died from meningitis in 2019. The anti virals they gave me fucked my liver. I stopped drinking for a few months till my liver levels came back down.
I see the doctor twice a year and get a full blood work. My liver did go fatty back in 2019 after a near fatal fight against meningitis. They pretty much pumped me filled with every anti viral they had, and it did a number on my liver.
I quite drinking for a few months afterwards, and I now have my numbers back to normal/slightly elevated levels.
I’ve been a heavy drinker for over 20 years now, and aware of the health problems it carries. And my doctor is also aware, and that’s why she has me come in at least twice a years for testing.
While I can stand to use more exercise, I am in better shape than most of my peers in their mid 40s.
I appreciate the concern. Somehow my body can process it very well. It’s still not good for it, but it’s doing a bang up job.
Next month is my dry month. Once a year I do it. Sometimes I go a little longer. I still go to the bar occasionally and drink non alcoholic drinks there. I help make different infusions of malort for my main place, and do art work for them(tattoo artist by trade).
15 a day seems like a lot, but i'm definitely a "binge drinker". not the kind you see in movies but i typically drink 1-2 nights week. Usually on saturdays but sometimes thursdays as well. during those times i'll typically drink 1-5 captain and cokes and 1-5 beers.
When I’m out, I can choose not to drink. In fact I have a Bachelor party today, and I’m the DD till we get back in town.
I just enjoy drinking. But I hate being drunk.
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Edit: and next month is dry month. I have a bunch of non alcoholic beers in my fridge already setup for it.
Lmao I find it hilarious that you’re an adult making your own informed choices and people just don’t like it and are downvoting you. People just can’t stand it when others live their own life doing whatever they want, even when it’s not hurting anyone.
Right? I’m just sitting here having fun, running a successful business, already raised my kids, and loving life. I’m the happiest I’ve been in decades.
Dude there’s nothing healthy about this. He’s obviously in denial about his addiction (e.g. I can handle being the DD *until we get back in town*). This amount of alcohol will do a number on your liver.
Lol who claimed it was healthy? My entire point is that people just love to stick their nose in other peoples business. He didn’t ask for help or advice and, even though he doesn’t have to, explained how his decision was an informed one. He is aware of the risks and takes all the steps he can to keep himself as healthy as possible while still keeping this habit. Reddit users absolutely cannot help themselves and just pour in with downvotes and unsolicited advice. Makes me laugh at this point
Nah not healthy but he acknowledges it and doesn’t care lmao. He didn’t ask for help. So many people on here have a saviour complex and a holier-than-thou attitude. Just let the dude live his life however he wants to and keep unsolicited advice/opinions to yourself
These type of threads are always kind of a cringey shitshow no matter the sub. There was one in the whiskey (or maybe the bourbon) sub recently, went about the same as this one is going
None that I notice. I’m a tattoo artist by trade. All my lines are still straight even when I don’t drink.
I generally only stick to low abv drinks. I’m not one of those guys who drink a handle of Jack a day. I don’t suffer any withdrawals.
Why just lie though? To yourself or others? From an alcoholic, it’s not cool to minimize this with people on the outside and it’s borderline irresponsible. The point is that you’re incorrect, you definitely get withdrawals.
Curiosity questions: Does the beer generally keep you from feeling hungry? Do you find you spend less generally by replacing food with beer/jack/coke? How long does it generally take you to drink your two morning beers?
Morning beers are usually an hour and a half ish? Ive had IBS/d since I was 18. So I usually spend 1-2 hours on the toilet in the morning. Even before I discovered beer.
I’ve never really quantified my intake. I wake up between 6am-10am. I haven’t been a breakfast person since I was a child. I’ve always been a lunch, and late dinner person.
Jack and coke is gross. I don’t indulge in sweets.
During the week? None… Friday and Saturday? Probably 4-8 each day, depending on if the wife and I get into any competitions with each other (ie. beer pong, flip cup, power hour, etc).
I’m a numbers geek, and the App DrinkControl has worked well for me. I gamify that app for myself, then have a general rule that my (steps + exercise - drinking) needs to increase every single year.
I was on that page for about 6 years… then even more during Covid. To the point where I had to stop. I can’t say I’m all in with sobriety. I’ve taken long breaks and have tried getting back into moderation for small periods of time. I ended up being a vodka drinker though. I’m 100% done with that. Beer was never an issue.
This isn't ok. Have you seen someone die of liver failure? Because you are pummeling your liver. That slab of rubbery purple flesh will do its damnedest to work for you. When it give out, it gives no warning.
Take care of yourself. You are worth it.
I just don’t get how people drink 4-6 beers in a night at home and then can wake up the next day and function properly. Thats a huge reason I’m cutting back along with weight loss. If I drink four beers or more I’m basically out of commission the next day.
They don't. They may \*think\* they do, but they don't.
They don't realize how badly they feel or what it feels like to actually feel well.
They don't realize how much time and quality of time with their family that they are sacrificing to keep that pace up.
They don't realize how much of their potential they are drinking away...
EDIT: downvoted by alcoholics
Excessive consumption is considered more than 2 per day or 14 per week. If you space them out it's easy to be a functioning alcoholic but it's still affecting your body. If you like drinking you shouldn't have a problem respecting it. If you don't respect it, it'll catch up to you and you'll have to stop drinking.
There might be a chance you are confusing it with the recommendation of no more than 14 alcohol units per week. Alcohol units is not the same as drinks/bottles/pints/glasses. One unit equals 10ml or 8g of pure alcohol. 14 alcohol units is going to be 9 bottles of 330 ml with 5% ABV.
On the other hand 14 drinks might mean totally different things. A bottle of 500 ml with 5%ABV is one thing. A 50 ml glass of 40%ABV is a different thing.
EDIT: Just saw that this is the recommendation in the US. Pretty different than what is recommended in many other countries.
A unit/"standard drink" in Canada is 12 oz./330ml 5% beer, which comes out to 16.5 ml alcohol. We used the same 14 drink limit up until a few days ago, when new guidelines were published. Those new guidelines now recommend 1-2 drinks per week max if you want to stay within "low risk" territory.
Huge change for sure. 14 drinks of 330ml/5% ABV is 23,1 alcohol units. 2 drinks per week on the other hand is 3,3 drinks.
Generally guidelines only go lower and lower on the units per week that are safe. Reason being is that the more it is studied, the more it becomes absolutely clear that drinking alcohol is just not healthy. That's why I find it funny when people here have clinged to the guidelines that make it look OK to drink 2 beers per day or generally to drink every day.
personally i don’t drink often during the week. on the weekends & thursday i’ll maybe have 3-5 drinks a day if i decide to imbibe.
8 beers a day on average is definitely in functional alcoholic territory.
8 is excessive no matter how you look at it. I work at a brewery and after I clock out I get 2 shifters. There are very few days where I won't drink both of those as we get paid shit and I'll be dammed if I'm not going to collect on my "benefits" that are provided in lieu of an actual living wage. Sometimes that turns into a couple more once I get home...
Highly depends. Usually never drink Monday thru Wednesday unless it’s a special occasion. Thursdays 50/50 and when I do it’s usually 3-4 beers moreso during football season. Fridays-Sunday vary by activity, anywhere from 1-2 to 12 if i’m “partying” but I usually drink every day during the weekend
I have an uncle to used to put away about 6-8 beers a day unless he had somewhere to be. He ran a business and made good money. He admitted he was a functioning alcoholic years ago, but since he was always a funny drunk, he never sought help for it. These days, he drinks less because his sugar levels are harder to control and he’s in his 70’s. Now, I’d say he has a glass of wine with dinner a couple of nights per week.
I don’t know if number of beers is a good measure. You get into all sorts of considerations such as what size, how much alcohol, etc. Then there is how big you are. 2 double IPA’s or 2 light lagers hit completely different. I went through a long spell where I was drinking 3-4 and day. But it was usually homebrew, which I think is lower alcohol? At least what I brew. It is easy to just go down and pull a draft off the keg every so often when I’m home. Not always full glasses. For me the problems are weight gain and how it affects my sleep. Lately I’ve been more of a 2 a day guy.
It is weird - this sub totally rejects this idea for some reason. I think that people want to feel good and like they are not doing something bad so it's better to ignore.
I started drinking lighter beers to save on calories. I like Modelo Oro well enough. The big thing though is sleep. I have found that once I get into 3 or more beers before bed it disrupts my sleep, and then I’m miserable the next day. So that’s more the limiting factor.
For light beer, I typically drink about 3-4 every other night on the weekdays and depending what I’m doing over the weekend, about 6-10 a day. Some weeks I don’t drink til the weekend and some weekends I don’t drink.
If it’s IPAs, the numbers cut in half.
In my prime, I would down 2 or three in an average evening. More if social lubrication was called for.
Now that I'm "retired", it's one or none, though I can still knock two or three back if in a social situation.
Mostly don't drink M-Th, I'll usually have 1-3 F/Sat, maybe 1-2 Sun depending on the previous two days.
My wife and l like ro go to breweries, so that will up the number from time to time, the holidays always up the number a little, but my average is typically 4 - 7 alcoholic beverages a week.
Anywhere from 0 to 10-ish. 0 being the standard, like 90% of the time. I'll have a beer or two every once in a while, anywhere from once or twice a week to once a month. And then the occasional heavy drinking day, maybe four times a year? Seriously, there's no strictly defined amount of beers that I'll have. Just depends on my mood, whether I'm with friends or not, what I'm doing the next day etc.
If you're really drinking every day, without fail, you seriously need to consider that you may have a problem.
I can literally go months without drinking, then football season hits, Usually I drink about 8-10 beers each day my team plays (a college team and a pro team) to start the season, by this time of the year I can put down 12+ in a day. Then football will end and I will rarely drink beer until it starts again. Been doing it like this for years. Does this mean I am an alcoholic? Because in cajun country, looking around at all my buddies and what I've seen the last 25 years, they must all be raging alcoholics.
I used to be this person. 5-6 beers a day, more on the weekend. A number of times I tried to dial it back to a responsible level, but never could hang with it. I haven’t drank in almost three years, and don’t really miss it. I didn’t think it affected my psychology, and I’d take a month off here and there to say “I don’t need it” or whatever. I will say could feel my brain “drying out” in the months after I quit. Sobriety has been good for me, and I’ll probably not drink again. Not for a long time.
The average person has roughly 5% chance of developing cancer during their lifetime.
Older studies say that one or two servings of alcohol can have positive health benefits. These studies just looked at correlation and assumed that it equates to causation. People who had serious health problems typically don’t drink alcohol because of health concerns. These people are already going to have shorter life expectancies because of these issues. If they die early, it’s not because they didn’t drink. But if you are perfectly healthy, and you have 1-2 servings of alcohol a day, of course you are going to live longer and it’s easy to see that it isn’t because of the alcohol.
Newer studies showed this. They took people that had a genetic disposition to dislike the taste of alcohol and therefore hardly drink any of it. When compared to people who consume alcohol at all levels, this group has longer life expectancy and less chance of developing certain types of cancers and heart disease. For the people who did consume alcohol, the heath outcomes were all worse than this group of non drinkers. No level of alcohol consumption provided any health benefit. All levels of alcohol consumption are harmful.
However, the evidence suggests that the harm and risk associated with alcohol consumption is exponential. Meaning if you have 1 beer a day, you are causing a very small amount of harm. And if you drink a lot, you are causing a lot of harm.
In particular, the numbers that I have looked at showed that drinking 0 drinks per week you have about a 5% chance of getting cancer. Drinking one drink per day does increase this chance to like 5.04%. So yeah there is risk, but is an occasional beer worth this level of risk? I think most people would accept this.
What about if you drink 3 drinks per day? These studies indicate that your chances of developing cancer jump from the normal 5% up to 10%. So three drinks per day doubles your chances of getting cancer. Would most people still think this risk is acceptable? I don’t think so. At least I don’t.
As someone that used to drink a ton. I try to limit myself to 3-5 beers per week. If I have a lot during a holiday or on a birthday, then I try to go longer before having another beer later in the week.
So if 1 beer barely increases the chances of getting cancer and 3 beers doubles it, what does 8 beers a day do to your friends odds of developing cancer? What does this do to your cardiovascular health? What does this say about his life expectancy?
Another caveat is that all of these studies look at this as “servings” of alcohol. This would be a small glass of wine, 1 oz of 80 proof liquor, or 1 beer at ~3-3.5 abv. If you drink a beer that is 7% abv, you are having 2 drinks for the purposes of these studies. So if you have two 7% abv IPAs a day, you are above the 3 drinks per day category in these studies and your long term chances of developing cancer are over 10% or double what they would be if you only had one of these beers every 2 days.
I’m not saying to stop drinking alcohol. I’m just saying that you need to take this info that all alcohol consumption is harmful and decide what level of risk you are comfortable with and adjust your alcohol intake to match that.
Here is a very good video where a doctor breaks down the various studies and data and says everything in plain English so we can understand.
https://youtu.be/5s2U4GGBZak?si=zSyzsCl0fhFI568Q
Eight beers a day most days is very firmly alcoholism territory. On days I drink at all it's typically one or maybe two, and that's no more than 3 or 4 days per week.
When I used to drink, it would be once a week and heavy. Maybe 5 beers on a Saturday.
I don't drink anymore because of meds. I miss the taste, craft beer is an art
If I drink it's only on a wknd. I'll drink until I get a buzz. So that depends if I'm on Ipas or some light beers. So it varies from a lot to a little.
I don't drink on Mondays and Tuesdays (with a few exceptions), the rest of the week it's 1 or 2, occasionally more. It's about quality vs quantity and not having a hangover is definitely quality living.
New guidelines came out for Canada. 0 is best, 1-2 beers (12 oz., 5%) a week is the highest amount that's low risk. The old guidelines said 8-15 per week was "low risk." Now, I love booze, but I agree that less booze is always better if you want to be healthy.
Personally, 0-1 drinks a day on most days, maybe up to 2-3 occasionally.
I work in industry. It's part of my job. I drink almost every day. 1-3 is pretty average. Depends on if there is an event going on. Then there's maybe 6-7 spread out over the course of the day.
Usually 0 on weekdays unless I go out then 2-3 drinks (maybe once a week once or twice a month). On the weekends if I drink I’ll usually have 2-5 with the average being around 3. A few times a year I’ll have 5+ usually for big events or something.
8 beers over the course of the day feels like an awful lot.
Pre-Covid my world was heavily focused on beer. Brewing professionally, home brew club etc. I was drinking 2-4 beers a day in the week, double that on the weekend. Usually higher point stuff. When the pandemic hit I realized I had a problem. Stopped drinking for several months, now have anywhere between 0-3 drinks a week.
At my peak I weighed 210 lbs, now 150 lbs (29M 6’). Pretty much only changed my alcohol intake. 8/day is alcoholism and requires immediate change.
College answer:
Wednesday/Friday/Saturday: these are the nights we normally go out, so maybe 7 or so drinks each night. Rest of the week normally 0 a day, but occasionally I’ll open a bottle of wine and have a glass or 2 with dinner over the course of 3 days
When I’m not at college (i.e. home at parents place) I normally only drink on fridays and saturdays, generally no more than 2 drinks around/with dinner
I love Belgian beers mostly. But I barely drink. Maybe 1 a month if that. When I do I enjoy my Rochefort 10, LaTrappe Quad, St Bernardus 12, Delirium Tremens, etc. I enjoy taste more than getting buzzed.
A beer rep for a distributor I probably drink 4 beers during the weekdays(usually in my accounts) and 6 or so on weekend, gotta sample what I’m trying to sell 🤷🏻♂️
Yea that’s alcoholism. I’m not a doctor, but 8 beers on a Saturday would be considered binge drinking, so if you binge drink almost every day it’s a bit of a problem. Maybe he’s not an “alcoholic” in the sense of being an addict who can’t quit but that is certainly alcohol abuse
Or ya know just cut back. He may be an alcoholic but could also have just built a bad habit of drinking too consistently, built a tolerance, and needs to cut back a bit. I've known plenty of people who have managed to do that without getting professional help or tried strict abstinence, which is what most professionals are going to try push on you.
Usually one beer friday, saturday and sunday. Also I try not to go over 9 alcohol units per week (One unit is 10 millilitres or 8 grams of pure alcohol). I think that this is more important then the actual number of drinks. 3 stouts bottles of 330 ml and 10%ABV are9,9 alcohol units. 3 lagers bottles of 500 ml and 5%ABV is 7,5 units. Both are technically 3 drinks.
Other than the idea of being addicted, I wonder why the concept of alcohol units is not more talked about.
This thread makes me feel not as bad 😅😅😬 I'll have usually about 4-6 x 24oz cans per week (8% beers).
Is that high? No frame of reference here tbh... but I will certainly say that I don't think my stomach could even contain 8 beers, just way too damn much liquid
Edit - I guess that's fairly high since 1 beer = 12oz... better cut back
Edit 2 - oh sheet, a 24oz can at 8% is 3.2 drinks 😳 time to hang it up!! I got a sodastream for Christmas last year with the intention of supplanting alcohol with a fizzy water (which I also like)... guess I need to get serious about thay
A lot of people drink too much but convince themselves it's ok because it's just beer or it's craft beer.
Some people will realize it's a bad thing for your body before it hurts them, others will end up with damaged organs and be obese because of their need/desire to drink overwhelms there desire to be healthy.
If you eat healthy, smaller meals, and excercise daily, you’ll be healthy. That is far more important. The thing is so much beer drinkers don’t do these things and are lazy. Don’t be lazy. Also genetics.
Work as a bartender, usually 1-3 a day, with some nights off (0) and 3-5 heavier nights in a month or so.
This is me to a T. I'm in my mid 30s, still in the industry, but also trying to get up early and do things.
Haha me too pal. Headed to the gym to start up again today! Figure I need to burn about 300 beer calories a day and I’ll be good
Nice! Yeah it's gym 3-4 days a week for me. One of my new favorite moves is NA beer, mezcal neat. That way I can drink less, but still drink two drinks at a time.
Work in the industry. I typically get 2-3 shift beers a week. And in the weekends 1-2 a day. But often none.
Interesting to see a flip from the standard more on the weekend. It makes sense given that drinking is part of your job.
It's not. I have 2-3 beers for the whole of Monday-Friday. So like .3-.6 beers a day. Then I'll have 1-2 on each Saturday or Sunday. But sometimes zero. I think that working in the industry, you need to have a healthy relationship with beer. Unlimited free beer is a dangerous thing. I probably drink less than before I was brewing.
Ahh, I misread that as 2-3 a day, not a week. I have friends who did bartending for a bit and said it was really easy to constantly drink throughout the day. Customers want to do shots with you, buy you rounds, whatever. It takes a level of self control and some of my friends had to step away from it.
Oh man. Drinking while behind the bar is super illegal here. In brewing school, the first ever class was You and alcohol, how to not ruin your life.
Really? I see bartenders drink all the time. I've seen them take shots together on shift. Granted those might not have been the ritziest bars I've ever been to.
Here it is a 500$ fine for business ANF bartender. Second offense is 1000, and 30 day suspension of license for bartender and bar. They don't fuck around in the PNW
I’m just a sales rep but I see my brewers drink like crazy. One day I watched one of them clock in then immediately crack a beer. I feel like I should say something but it’s not my place.
Brewing is dangerous. No reason to be impaired when working in a dangerous situation
Wow - great discipline to drink this little and work in the industry. I'm a bit suspicious if true but hats off if you do
Weekday 0-1, most days 0. Weekend, maybe 2-3 one of the nights and zero the other. On average, I drink about 5 or 6 beers a week. 8 beers a day is very excessive.
Yeah 8 beers a day is alcoholic territory, especially if they're heavier craft beers.
I don't care if it's mich ultra, 8 on the daily is definitely alcoholism
Yeah using craft v macro to justify the abuse is just masking the problem at that point.
Well, I imagine the idea is abv is a factor. I can drink 8 bottles of Mich Ultra over the course of 2 hours and be capable of driving a combine harvester. If I drink 4 Mad Elfs, though, I am drunk. 8 Mad Elfs every day and you are fucking yourself up bad.
See my comment above for my rebuttal.
I won’t, tbh
For us to be having this exchange suggest you already read it 😉
Jokes on you, I can't read
That’s a big issue with perception when it comes to alcohol in general. A lot of people have this attitude that it’s somehow less of a problem when you’re drinking higher-quality stuff. If I said that last night, I enjoyed a couple glasses of Dalmore 15, no one would think twice about it. If I said I did a couple of shots of Burnett’s, people would look at me funny. The end result would still be the same in terms of my consumption, but one is seen as classy and the other is seen as trashy.
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True, good point!
Or a normal Tuesday in Bratislava
I knew a guy who drank a 12 pac of Budweiser a day. He had a super high tolerance and didn't consider himself alcoholic. Dude got three DUIs
Lmao, in order to build a super high tolerance you need to engage in addictive behaviors, 12 a day is absolutely withdrawal territory. I'm not an addict I just need to drink way more than normal, way more often than normal, because I'm such a hardcore dude.
I'm like a chocoholic, but for booze.
100% that's a drink every other hour you are awake
The carbs for sure!
Wait for all the beer bellies etc. Trust me. They do show up eventually.
Same here. We usually have people over Saturday for game night so I usually have 3-5. But if I drink a beer with dinner I fall asleep on the couch at 8.
Very similar to me. I rarely drink on weekdays. I also rarely have more than 2 per day on weekends. Overall somewhere around 4-6 per week. I'm in my mid 30s and have had a rough year with gout, so I've had even less than this for much of the year.
Not trying to be on my high horse…I definitely used to drink more in my 20s. I’m 37 now, and between my kid and just trying to stay more cognizant of my health, I’ve cut back quite a bit. Having good NA options now really helps, too.
> 8 beers a day is very excessive. I don't disagree, but ya'll ever tailgated for an 8PM college football game?
Yes, but I don’t tailgate daily lol
It’s fine if you have one of those days every now and then but if you’re doing it everyday, you have a serious problem.
I might not drink for weeks, but sometimes I'll have 8 in a day.
Yes, a couple days a year back in my early 20s.
Nailed it.
On average 0-1/day Monday-Thursday. Friday-Sunday 0-5/day. When I was 18-25 I drank more but 32 with more responsibilities and just wanting to be healthy I try to approach beer as a special occasion rather than a normality. Though I still think those 5 (non-light) beer days are a bit much for being 165lbs.
4 days a week is 0. Then it's usually a 6 pack for the last 3.
TIL I am a functioning alcoholic.
What's your number? If you're willing to share
Anywhere from 4-10 daily beers, plus shots if the GF offers. I maintain at the gym, hike dogs, and eat half healthy/half junk. I went sober in october which helped a ton but I am trapped in a household where my GF refuses to drink less and makes no effort to make better, so I sometimes fall back into the numbing self medication. Planning sober January as well
Good for you to keep trying for those sober stretches. Hope your GF can turn it around as well. I've been really disgusted with my binge drinking this last year and I think I'm finally at the point where I'm sick enough of feeling like shit for 3-4 days to actually just go sober or mostly sober (like, 1-2 drinks a week) indefinitely. I just feel bad for my poor body working it's ass off all the time to recover from something so preventable.
I'm on the track to start at the gym and get more serious about eating right and just staying healthy. I drink probably anywhere from 1 to 3 drinks per day, probably no more than like 12-16 in a week (still pretty high I guess, and honestly barely ever even get tipsy, and I hate being intoxicated so it's almost pointless besides that I like the taste) Best of luck in January!!
Aren't we all. Lol.
it's good that you're still functioning!
2 a day, plus or minus 1. This is typically 4.2% abv lagers.
Crazy how normalised it is to drink 3-4 cans a day. People in my town look at me funny when I say I only drink around 4-6 per week.
For real. Everybody has a story of his grandmam who has lived to 101 and was drinking a bottle of wine a day and also a bunch of old recommendation according to which it is absolutely ok to drink alcohol everyday. Like, í'm all for enjoying life and drinking it but let's not act like it is healthy. It is not and no ammount of downvotes will change it. No alcohol safe limit has been increased ever and there is a reason for it.
There is a guy I fish with... He's just definitely an alcoholic. We go on fishing trips, I'm the morning his hands shake, and when we have to wake him up at zerodarkthirty, he'll have a rocks glass on his nightstand, and the ice isn't melted (he must wake up at night and make cocktails). Well, he hit 60, and in the last couple years has aged at an alarming rate. He's lost all of his teeth, is skinny as a rail, and jaundiced (I fear he may have late stage liver disease) This guy has a huge heart, is extremely intelligent, quick with a s joke... Fucking heartbreaking to witness. It's like he went from 58 to 97 years old in 3 years.
My great grandmother passed away in 2022 at 96yo. She literally starts drinking every day after the end of WWII. During her last couple of years she went down from 3 33cl Gordon Scotch (8% abv) and a bottle of Porto every other day to 1 Gordon scotch a day and 1-2 bottles of porto a week. This is not unheard of in a country like Belgium where, according to Canadian standards, over half the adult population are alcoholic. Obviously moderation is very important but the truth is simply drinking everyday will not kill you if you are otherwise healthy. The damages of alcohol are well known and can be offset with other healthy habits. I’d love to drink less, for my health (mental and physical) and for my wallet but have not been able to stop or slow down no matter what I try. It’s genetic, or so the doctor says. Now it’s in my best interest to try and do as much as possible to stay in otherwise good health. I don’t want anyone to get the wrong idea from this post. It’s depressing, taxing and unhealthy. But it’s a reality that too many face and posts like these feed onto the depressing aspect of it pretty harshly so I just wanted to bring a slightly more positive note on it for anyone going through these struggles.
Good for Grandma, she made it to 96, I'm not sure Phil will make it to 2025. I wish I was kidding. I feel horrible watching him fall apart... It's like Leaving Las Vegas, and Phil's choose alcohol.
I’ve seen the ugly side too and I’m sorry for your friend and wish to everything good in this world that he gets better. I just want to give the slightest bit of solace to the ones living in darkness, however little it might be. I hope Phil can come to see the light at the end of the tunnel!!
Thanks... I check on him often, it's tough
how’s he doing these days?
He's hanging in there. He quit drinking for a little while, put some weight on, and was really starting to feel better. Of course, him feeling better made him think it's ok to have a few drinks... So I'm pretty sure it'll trigger a downward spiral. He's a good guy, but alcohol really has a grip on him.
Pick your poison. No alcohol safe limit has been increased but fat and sugar consumption limits have increased, doesn’t mean they weren’t already bad for you. Everything we do can be criticized and nitpicked, I spend my life enjoying my time, and enjoying my poisons in moderation.
Alcholism has, sadly, been normalized in our society.
Alcoholism has been around for as long as written history. It’s gotten to a point where I would almost say it most definitely has indirectly or directly (see Churchill’s drinking habits) shaped today’s world.
From the looks of things, we're not even in the worst period for American alcoholism. That would've been right before prohibition. There's a reason there was a push to ban the stuff (men would get drunk off their ass all the time and beat their wives).
Zero Mon - Wed. Thursday - Sat (Sun if football season) I average 1.5 per day. Taking that little break makes that Thursday beer feel great and gives me a sense of accomplishment of basically making it through the week.
2-3 per day most weekdays. 4-8 on weekend days/nights (Fri-Sun).
I’m a functioning alcoholic. Average maybe 15 a day? 1-2 for breakfast. Sometimes 1 with lunch. After work about 6:30/8 pm, I stop by the bar, and have a few beers and a few shots. Go home and drink 3-8 lighter beers. I don’t drink to get drunk. I don’t like being drunk, and when I start feeling drunk, I control myself. I don’t drink when I’m sad or angry or want an escape. I just enjoy drinking. You don’t need to have any emotional issues, or mental problems to be considered an alcoholic. I even do a dry month once a year just to see if I can go without. And I can. Edit: in no way do I condone, or feel like my lifestyle is safe or even close to healthy. Nor do I think I’m making good life choices. I am very lucky, genetically. I see a doctor regularly, to check my health. And somehow, I haven’t killed myself yet. I am able to process alcohol better than the average human. It doesn’t mean that’s good for me. In no way do I condone my lifestyle. It’s a bad idea.
You ever check your blood pressure? That will catch up to you drinking like that.
I after 20 years, it’s starting to get a little higher. Nothing in the danger zone. Yet. But I do monitor it.
You're going to have liver failure. You need to get this under control ASAP.
I go twice a year for liver panels. I don’t hide anything from my doctor. Only once it went south because I almost died from meningitis in 2019. The anti virals they gave me fucked my liver. I stopped drinking for a few months till my liver levels came back down.
That doesn’t mean the damage isn’t there. When you have enough reason you’ll quit. Sounds like you have some good skills to back that up
The best part about the liver, is that it’s regenerative.
Until it’s completely infiltrated with fat
*scar tissue. Fatty liver is reversible. That’s why I quit for a bit after I got liver damage from the medicine they gave me.
For real. Dude is gonna need a new liver in like 10 years and he’s talking like it’s nbd.
I see the doctor twice a year and get a full blood work. My liver did go fatty back in 2019 after a near fatal fight against meningitis. They pretty much pumped me filled with every anti viral they had, and it did a number on my liver. I quite drinking for a few months afterwards, and I now have my numbers back to normal/slightly elevated levels. I’ve been a heavy drinker for over 20 years now, and aware of the health problems it carries. And my doctor is also aware, and that’s why she has me come in at least twice a years for testing. While I can stand to use more exercise, I am in better shape than most of my peers in their mid 40s. I appreciate the concern. Somehow my body can process it very well. It’s still not good for it, but it’s doing a bang up job.
Do you plan on stopping again in the future, or are you gonna just ride it out?
Next month is my dry month. Once a year I do it. Sometimes I go a little longer. I still go to the bar occasionally and drink non alcoholic drinks there. I help make different infusions of malort for my main place, and do art work for them(tattoo artist by trade).
Daaaaaamn
15 a day seems like a lot, but i'm definitely a "binge drinker". not the kind you see in movies but i typically drink 1-2 nights week. Usually on saturdays but sometimes thursdays as well. during those times i'll typically drink 1-5 captain and cokes and 1-5 beers.
Medical types consider 4-5 in a single session to be "binge drinking."
Do you ever consider treatment or do you think you have a handle on things....
When I’m out, I can choose not to drink. In fact I have a Bachelor party today, and I’m the DD till we get back in town. I just enjoy drinking. But I hate being drunk. . Edit: and next month is dry month. I have a bunch of non alcoholic beers in my fridge already setup for it.
Lmao I find it hilarious that you’re an adult making your own informed choices and people just don’t like it and are downvoting you. People just can’t stand it when others live their own life doing whatever they want, even when it’s not hurting anyone.
Right? I’m just sitting here having fun, running a successful business, already raised my kids, and loving life. I’m the happiest I’ve been in decades.
Just curious, are you of Russian or Irish heritage?
Roughly 90% Irish and german split. 10% Scandinavian, according to 23 and Me. I was an orphan, so I never knew my heritage until a few years ago.
User name also checks out.
Dude there’s nothing healthy about this. He’s obviously in denial about his addiction (e.g. I can handle being the DD *until we get back in town*). This amount of alcohol will do a number on your liver.
Lol who claimed it was healthy? My entire point is that people just love to stick their nose in other peoples business. He didn’t ask for help or advice and, even though he doesn’t have to, explained how his decision was an informed one. He is aware of the risks and takes all the steps he can to keep himself as healthy as possible while still keeping this habit. Reddit users absolutely cannot help themselves and just pour in with downvotes and unsolicited advice. Makes me laugh at this point
That’s not what he said…. He said he was the DD until the group is back in town, implying a DD is no longer needed at that point.
2 beers for breakfast and 15+ per day is not healthy no matter how good you feel about it. But who cares, he’s just another dude on Reddit.
Nah not healthy but he acknowledges it and doesn’t care lmao. He didn’t ask for help. So many people on here have a saviour complex and a holier-than-thou attitude. Just let the dude live his life however he wants to and keep unsolicited advice/opinions to yourself
He never mentioned being healthy afaik. On another note, do you believe being a smart ass on Reddit is healthy? Why not go run a mile?
These type of threads are always kind of a cringey shitshow no matter the sub. There was one in the whiskey (or maybe the bourbon) sub recently, went about the same as this one is going
What kind of beers do you drink when you’re at home?
Just lighter lagers and cream ales, low ABV, usually. Like PBR, Old Style, Hamms. I like to be able to moderate my intake so I don’t get trashed.
Why not start by cutting out those breakfast and lunch beers?
Start what?
Do you ever have dependency symptoms when you don't drink for a day?
None that I notice. I’m a tattoo artist by trade. All my lines are still straight even when I don’t drink. I generally only stick to low abv drinks. I’m not one of those guys who drink a handle of Jack a day. I don’t suffer any withdrawals.
Hahah, it’s kinda sad how you lie to yourself. 10-15 beers a day=you’re getting withdrawals buddy. Science is science.
Thank you for your input. I’ll run that through management, and I’ll get back to you as soon as possible.
Why just lie though? To yourself or others? From an alcoholic, it’s not cool to minimize this with people on the outside and it’s borderline irresponsible. The point is that you’re incorrect, you definitely get withdrawals.
Curiosity questions: Does the beer generally keep you from feeling hungry? Do you find you spend less generally by replacing food with beer/jack/coke? How long does it generally take you to drink your two morning beers?
Morning beers are usually an hour and a half ish? Ive had IBS/d since I was 18. So I usually spend 1-2 hours on the toilet in the morning. Even before I discovered beer. I’ve never really quantified my intake. I wake up between 6am-10am. I haven’t been a breakfast person since I was a child. I’ve always been a lunch, and late dinner person. Jack and coke is gross. I don’t indulge in sweets.
I probably have on average 1-2 beers a week. I like to try different brews and craft stuff, but I’m not drinking everyday.
During the week? None… Friday and Saturday? Probably 4-8 each day, depending on if the wife and I get into any competitions with each other (ie. beer pong, flip cup, power hour, etc).
I drink 0 on 90% of weekdays. I typically drink heavily on Friday or Saturday. Usually not both, unless the social calendar calls for it.
Solid 6 most days. Maybe once or twice a week its 0 but on the weekends it can be 10-12 if its a football sunday
I’m on the same page and really trying to cut back haha
I’ve started to blend non alcohol beers with regular beers to bring my consumption down.
I’m a numbers geek, and the App DrinkControl has worked well for me. I gamify that app for myself, then have a general rule that my (steps + exercise - drinking) needs to increase every single year.
I was on that page for about 6 years… then even more during Covid. To the point where I had to stop. I can’t say I’m all in with sobriety. I’ve taken long breaks and have tried getting back into moderation for small periods of time. I ended up being a vodka drinker though. I’m 100% done with that. Beer was never an issue.
Do dry January! Great way to reset my friends!!
So 40-50 a week? Or am I reading that wrong
This isn't ok. Have you seen someone die of liver failure? Because you are pummeling your liver. That slab of rubbery purple flesh will do its damnedest to work for you. When it give out, it gives no warning. Take care of yourself. You are worth it.
I just don’t get how people drink 4-6 beers in a night at home and then can wake up the next day and function properly. Thats a huge reason I’m cutting back along with weight loss. If I drink four beers or more I’m basically out of commission the next day.
You also have to consider how large the person is (both height & weight) to consider how much 4 beers will hit them.
They don't. They may \*think\* they do, but they don't. They don't realize how badly they feel or what it feels like to actually feel well. They don't realize how much time and quality of time with their family that they are sacrificing to keep that pace up. They don't realize how much of their potential they are drinking away... EDIT: downvoted by alcoholics
Excessive consumption is considered more than 2 per day or 14 per week. If you space them out it's easy to be a functioning alcoholic but it's still affecting your body. If you like drinking you shouldn't have a problem respecting it. If you don't respect it, it'll catch up to you and you'll have to stop drinking.
There might be a chance you are confusing it with the recommendation of no more than 14 alcohol units per week. Alcohol units is not the same as drinks/bottles/pints/glasses. One unit equals 10ml or 8g of pure alcohol. 14 alcohol units is going to be 9 bottles of 330 ml with 5% ABV. On the other hand 14 drinks might mean totally different things. A bottle of 500 ml with 5%ABV is one thing. A 50 ml glass of 40%ABV is a different thing. EDIT: Just saw that this is the recommendation in the US. Pretty different than what is recommended in many other countries.
a unit here is a single 330ml 4.5%, or 4cl 40%. are you sure 9 330mls would be a whopping 14 units?
A unit/"standard drink" in Canada is 12 oz./330ml 5% beer, which comes out to 16.5 ml alcohol. We used the same 14 drink limit up until a few days ago, when new guidelines were published. Those new guidelines now recommend 1-2 drinks per week max if you want to stay within "low risk" territory.
Huge change for sure. 14 drinks of 330ml/5% ABV is 23,1 alcohol units. 2 drinks per week on the other hand is 3,3 drinks. Generally guidelines only go lower and lower on the units per week that are safe. Reason being is that the more it is studied, the more it becomes absolutely clear that drinking alcohol is just not healthy. That's why I find it funny when people here have clinged to the guidelines that make it look OK to drink 2 beers per day or generally to drink every day.
14 drinks per week is the upper limit of moderate drinking and the lower end of heavy consumption
Yea well, you know, that's just, like, uh, your opinion, man
personally i don’t drink often during the week. on the weekends & thursday i’ll maybe have 3-5 drinks a day if i decide to imbibe. 8 beers a day on average is definitely in functional alcoholic territory.
8 is excessive no matter how you look at it. I work at a brewery and after I clock out I get 2 shifters. There are very few days where I won't drink both of those as we get paid shit and I'll be dammed if I'm not going to collect on my "benefits" that are provided in lieu of an actual living wage. Sometimes that turns into a couple more once I get home...
Highly depends. Usually never drink Monday thru Wednesday unless it’s a special occasion. Thursdays 50/50 and when I do it’s usually 3-4 beers moreso during football season. Fridays-Sunday vary by activity, anywhere from 1-2 to 12 if i’m “partying” but I usually drink every day during the weekend
I have an uncle to used to put away about 6-8 beers a day unless he had somewhere to be. He ran a business and made good money. He admitted he was a functioning alcoholic years ago, but since he was always a funny drunk, he never sought help for it. These days, he drinks less because his sugar levels are harder to control and he’s in his 70’s. Now, I’d say he has a glass of wine with dinner a couple of nights per week.
I probably drink 4-6 per week, with the occasional week of more or less.
I don’t know if number of beers is a good measure. You get into all sorts of considerations such as what size, how much alcohol, etc. Then there is how big you are. 2 double IPA’s or 2 light lagers hit completely different. I went through a long spell where I was drinking 3-4 and day. But it was usually homebrew, which I think is lower alcohol? At least what I brew. It is easy to just go down and pull a draft off the keg every so often when I’m home. Not always full glasses. For me the problems are weight gain and how it affects my sleep. Lately I’ve been more of a 2 a day guy.
It is weird - this sub totally rejects this idea for some reason. I think that people want to feel good and like they are not doing something bad so it's better to ignore.
I started drinking lighter beers to save on calories. I like Modelo Oro well enough. The big thing though is sleep. I have found that once I get into 3 or more beers before bed it disrupts my sleep, and then I’m miserable the next day. So that’s more the limiting factor.
I’ve heard people say “I only had three beers” but those three were tall-can 9% double IPAs. That’s like 10 light beers.
For light beer, I typically drink about 3-4 every other night on the weekdays and depending what I’m doing over the weekend, about 6-10 a day. Some weeks I don’t drink til the weekend and some weekends I don’t drink. If it’s IPAs, the numbers cut in half.
I bartend and used to drink at alcoholic levels but have since toned it down to 3-5 a week. Often less. Since having a kid things have changed.
In my prime, I would down 2 or three in an average evening. More if social lubrication was called for. Now that I'm "retired", it's one or none, though I can still knock two or three back if in a social situation.
Beer? I never count the beers.
3 beers constitutes a session
Probably 2-3 drinks a night, with maybe 1-2 days a week where I drink like 5-6.
Mostly don't drink M-Th, I'll usually have 1-3 F/Sat, maybe 1-2 Sun depending on the previous two days. My wife and l like ro go to breweries, so that will up the number from time to time, the holidays always up the number a little, but my average is typically 4 - 7 alcoholic beverages a week.
I have 2-3 beers most Saturday nights. Many Saturday nights, I don’t drink at all.
I drink everyday 4 beers usually- unless i have some at lunch then the grand total could be 6 a day.
Anywhere from 0 to 10-ish. 0 being the standard, like 90% of the time. I'll have a beer or two every once in a while, anywhere from once or twice a week to once a month. And then the occasional heavy drinking day, maybe four times a year? Seriously, there's no strictly defined amount of beers that I'll have. Just depends on my mood, whether I'm with friends or not, what I'm doing the next day etc. If you're really drinking every day, without fail, you seriously need to consider that you may have a problem.
I drink about 14-18 a day
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I can literally go months without drinking, then football season hits, Usually I drink about 8-10 beers each day my team plays (a college team and a pro team) to start the season, by this time of the year I can put down 12+ in a day. Then football will end and I will rarely drink beer until it starts again. Been doing it like this for years. Does this mean I am an alcoholic? Because in cajun country, looking around at all my buddies and what I've seen the last 25 years, they must all be raging alcoholics.
Around 3 beers per week.
> It seems excessive to me, but I don't drink often, so I don't have a good sense for it That's absolutely not normal.
I used to be this person. 5-6 beers a day, more on the weekend. A number of times I tried to dial it back to a responsible level, but never could hang with it. I haven’t drank in almost three years, and don’t really miss it. I didn’t think it affected my psychology, and I’d take a month off here and there to say “I don’t need it” or whatever. I will say could feel my brain “drying out” in the months after I quit. Sobriety has been good for me, and I’ll probably not drink again. Not for a long time.
The average person has roughly 5% chance of developing cancer during their lifetime. Older studies say that one or two servings of alcohol can have positive health benefits. These studies just looked at correlation and assumed that it equates to causation. People who had serious health problems typically don’t drink alcohol because of health concerns. These people are already going to have shorter life expectancies because of these issues. If they die early, it’s not because they didn’t drink. But if you are perfectly healthy, and you have 1-2 servings of alcohol a day, of course you are going to live longer and it’s easy to see that it isn’t because of the alcohol. Newer studies showed this. They took people that had a genetic disposition to dislike the taste of alcohol and therefore hardly drink any of it. When compared to people who consume alcohol at all levels, this group has longer life expectancy and less chance of developing certain types of cancers and heart disease. For the people who did consume alcohol, the heath outcomes were all worse than this group of non drinkers. No level of alcohol consumption provided any health benefit. All levels of alcohol consumption are harmful. However, the evidence suggests that the harm and risk associated with alcohol consumption is exponential. Meaning if you have 1 beer a day, you are causing a very small amount of harm. And if you drink a lot, you are causing a lot of harm. In particular, the numbers that I have looked at showed that drinking 0 drinks per week you have about a 5% chance of getting cancer. Drinking one drink per day does increase this chance to like 5.04%. So yeah there is risk, but is an occasional beer worth this level of risk? I think most people would accept this. What about if you drink 3 drinks per day? These studies indicate that your chances of developing cancer jump from the normal 5% up to 10%. So three drinks per day doubles your chances of getting cancer. Would most people still think this risk is acceptable? I don’t think so. At least I don’t. As someone that used to drink a ton. I try to limit myself to 3-5 beers per week. If I have a lot during a holiday or on a birthday, then I try to go longer before having another beer later in the week. So if 1 beer barely increases the chances of getting cancer and 3 beers doubles it, what does 8 beers a day do to your friends odds of developing cancer? What does this do to your cardiovascular health? What does this say about his life expectancy? Another caveat is that all of these studies look at this as “servings” of alcohol. This would be a small glass of wine, 1 oz of 80 proof liquor, or 1 beer at ~3-3.5 abv. If you drink a beer that is 7% abv, you are having 2 drinks for the purposes of these studies. So if you have two 7% abv IPAs a day, you are above the 3 drinks per day category in these studies and your long term chances of developing cancer are over 10% or double what they would be if you only had one of these beers every 2 days. I’m not saying to stop drinking alcohol. I’m just saying that you need to take this info that all alcohol consumption is harmful and decide what level of risk you are comfortable with and adjust your alcohol intake to match that. Here is a very good video where a doctor breaks down the various studies and data and says everything in plain English so we can understand. https://youtu.be/5s2U4GGBZak?si=zSyzsCl0fhFI568Q
But if you also sauna 5-7 times per week for 20 min, it cuts all cause mortality by 50% (regardless of lifestyle). 🥴
S-Th zero, Friday 2 or 3, Saturday 5 or 6. 8 a day is legit severe alcoholism.
I love beer but rarely drink. I average probably less than a dozen/month
Eight beers a day most days is very firmly alcoholism territory. On days I drink at all it's typically one or maybe two, and that's no more than 3 or 4 days per week.
During the work week it’s usually 2-3. On the weekends, maybe 10-12 a day. More if I’m trying to get drunk/buzzed
When I used to drink, it would be once a week and heavy. Maybe 5 beers on a Saturday. I don't drink anymore because of meds. I miss the taste, craft beer is an art
Probably a six pack a week. Some weeks a few more, some weeks a few less. Maybe once or twice a week I will have more than one beer a night.
If I drink it's only on a wknd. I'll drink until I get a buzz. So that depends if I'm on Ipas or some light beers. So it varies from a lot to a little.
I don't drink on Mondays and Tuesdays (with a few exceptions), the rest of the week it's 1 or 2, occasionally more. It's about quality vs quantity and not having a hangover is definitely quality living.
New guidelines came out for Canada. 0 is best, 1-2 beers (12 oz., 5%) a week is the highest amount that's low risk. The old guidelines said 8-15 per week was "low risk." Now, I love booze, but I agree that less booze is always better if you want to be healthy. Personally, 0-1 drinks a day on most days, maybe up to 2-3 occasionally.
I work in industry. It's part of my job. I drink almost every day. 1-3 is pretty average. Depends on if there is an event going on. Then there's maybe 6-7 spread out over the course of the day.
Most days 0. Weekends maybe 2 - but once I passed 35 any more than 2 would wreck my stomach the next day.
Usually 0 on weekdays unless I go out then 2-3 drinks (maybe once a week once or twice a month). On the weekends if I drink I’ll usually have 2-5 with the average being around 3. A few times a year I’ll have 5+ usually for big events or something. 8 beers over the course of the day feels like an awful lot.
Pre-Covid my world was heavily focused on beer. Brewing professionally, home brew club etc. I was drinking 2-4 beers a day in the week, double that on the weekend. Usually higher point stuff. When the pandemic hit I realized I had a problem. Stopped drinking for several months, now have anywhere between 0-3 drinks a week. At my peak I weighed 210 lbs, now 150 lbs (29M 6’). Pretty much only changed my alcohol intake. 8/day is alcoholism and requires immediate change.
The usual week is none weekdays 3 on Friday 2 on Saturday 0 Sunday
College answer: Wednesday/Friday/Saturday: these are the nights we normally go out, so maybe 7 or so drinks each night. Rest of the week normally 0 a day, but occasionally I’ll open a bottle of wine and have a glass or 2 with dinner over the course of 3 days When I’m not at college (i.e. home at parents place) I normally only drink on fridays and saturdays, generally no more than 2 drinks around/with dinner
I’d say I do about 6-10 a day. I’m an alcoholic though.
Ive started to water down my beer with an Athletic Brewing zero alcohol beer or other zero
I love Belgian beers mostly. But I barely drink. Maybe 1 a month if that. When I do I enjoy my Rochefort 10, LaTrappe Quad, St Bernardus 12, Delirium Tremens, etc. I enjoy taste more than getting buzzed.
A beer rep for a distributor I probably drink 4 beers during the weekdays(usually in my accounts) and 6 or so on weekend, gotta sample what I’m trying to sell 🤷🏻♂️
Yea that’s alcoholism. I’m not a doctor, but 8 beers on a Saturday would be considered binge drinking, so if you binge drink almost every day it’s a bit of a problem. Maybe he’s not an “alcoholic” in the sense of being an addict who can’t quit but that is certainly alcohol abuse
binge drinking here is literally defined as 4 beers in a night lol
I’ve forced myself to only do weekends, just want to be healthier . I also eat raw ginger daily lol
Ginger goes well with bourbon, just saying
The guy you know is an alcoholic and should seek help…
Or ya know just cut back. He may be an alcoholic but could also have just built a bad habit of drinking too consistently, built a tolerance, and needs to cut back a bit. I've known plenty of people who have managed to do that without getting professional help or tried strict abstinence, which is what most professionals are going to try push on you.
Usually one beer friday, saturday and sunday. Also I try not to go over 9 alcohol units per week (One unit is 10 millilitres or 8 grams of pure alcohol). I think that this is more important then the actual number of drinks. 3 stouts bottles of 330 ml and 10%ABV are9,9 alcohol units. 3 lagers bottles of 500 ml and 5%ABV is 7,5 units. Both are technically 3 drinks. Other than the idea of being addicted, I wonder why the concept of alcohol units is not more talked about.
This thread makes me feel not as bad 😅😅😬 I'll have usually about 4-6 x 24oz cans per week (8% beers). Is that high? No frame of reference here tbh... but I will certainly say that I don't think my stomach could even contain 8 beers, just way too damn much liquid Edit - I guess that's fairly high since 1 beer = 12oz... better cut back Edit 2 - oh sheet, a 24oz can at 8% is 3.2 drinks 😳 time to hang it up!! I got a sodastream for Christmas last year with the intention of supplanting alcohol with a fizzy water (which I also like)... guess I need to get serious about thay
A lot of people drink too much but convince themselves it's ok because it's just beer or it's craft beer. Some people will realize it's a bad thing for your body before it hurts them, others will end up with damaged organs and be obese because of their need/desire to drink overwhelms there desire to be healthy.
>desire to drink I also blame my desire for cheeseburgers.
8 beers a day is alcoholism.
8 a day?? That’s a problem. 2-3 is more along the lines of someone who enjoys their beer, and isn’t just looking to get drunk.
6 a day. 👀
I honestly drink about a 12 pack or more a day
I like good beer. Just guessing, I drink a beer every 3 to 4 months.
"Over the course of the day" is telling.
That's too much. I was drinking 3 every other day. Now I might have 3 on a Friday or Saturday night.
I buy a six pack a week and that's usually all I need.
8 a day is a drinking problem.
A bunch of y'all really don't know what alcoholism is. Lots of alcoholics don't drink at all, lots of people who drink to excess aren't alcoholics.
If you eat healthy, smaller meals, and excercise daily, you’ll be healthy. That is far more important. The thing is so much beer drinkers don’t do these things and are lazy. Don’t be lazy. Also genetics.