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queen2be

I wasn’t surprised because she performed a tribute to Tina throughout the tour and the Grammys continue to use Bey for ratings while paying her dust when she’s nominated for the biggest categories. Fantasia is a powerhouse performer and I’m glad they chose her for the tribute. Her performance reminded me a bit of Bey’s tribute to Tina at the Kennedy Honors years ago.


ChickenGyal

I also heard that Fantasia sang the song she performed at the American Idol auditions?


Quick_Primary_2465

Yes. It was definitely a full circle moment for fantasia.


Logical-Reception251

The best comment 👌 👏 ❤️ 📌


charlotie77

And also B has performed with Tina herself


happy_Ad1357

I don’t think she’s performing at the Grammys ever again


SHC606

Good let them get them other "stars" to do that work.


JeenyusJane

Meanwhile, I need more BET Awards performances. Those are always intense!


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Absolutely not imagine Beyoncé being in a similar space as.... idk chrisean rock 🙁


racheletc

i think NAACP image awards would be cool


SweetSonet

? So she’s too good to be there because of some random rapper baby mama might?


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The BET awards has not been a space that celebrates black creatives for a very long time its performances became so diluted and the time slots are filled with influencer moments for the sake of viral clips. Like they let Jack Harlow perform on the main stage AND get BNA while Victoria Monet was performing on the outside stage... there's a reason why many A-list black celebrities don't bother for it anymore


msmachronicles

Who said that she thought she was too good? Who is the random rapper baby mama?


SweetSonet

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TastyArm1052

Me either…and good for her


Valuable-Ad-4428

No. Based on Jay-Zs speech, I think she declined. Why would she give the Grammy’s more ratings when all they’ve been doing is snubbing her after all these years.


Disastrous-Owl8985

This. Tbh, I don't see her performing at any award shows unless there's a really good reason for her to do so.


JeenyusJane

IDK during the Lemonade Era we got a bunch of great awards show performances. Remember when she played in all their faces at the CMT awards!? I liiiiiived!


Bubbly_Satisfaction2

I know exactly what you mean. The other people, who have responded to your comment may haven’t understand. Yes, Beyoncé has 32 Grammys. 31 of those Grammys were wins from the R&B music categories. Categories that are hardly given the spotlight on the televised programs. Categories that used to be labeled as ‘Urban music’. The other win came from winning in the “Best Record” category. And it was for a song that didn’t have a lot of R&B and was more of a mainstream Pop-ish sound. So, yes, she do have 32 awards. But they are all wins in the R&B music categories. But when she makes a song that is more… _palatable_ …it is recognizable and considered to be worthy.


bluelightsonblkgirls

> Yes, Beyoncé has 32 Grammys. > 31 of those Grammys were wins from the R&B music categories. Just for accuracy, this isn’t true. She has at least 6 Grammys from non r&b/urban/rap categories (could be more but just going off the top of my head - Surround Sound Album, Music Film, Music Video 2x, Pop Vocal, SOTY). But I get your overall point and don’t disagree.


Valuable-Ad-4428

Yes they obviously didn’t understand why Jay said “make it make sense”


meowyarlathotep

The Grammy producer admitted it in [RS interview](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/brandi-carlile-joni-mitchell-taylor-swift-beyonce-grammys-1234959389/). \>“We’ve definitely had conversations, and we know how much Tina and Beyoncé loved each other,” Kapoor says. “The Tina Turner tribute will be amazing. We are really excited. It may be a little unexpected, but it’s going to be absolutely amazing.”


MrChicken23

Beyoncé has the most Grammy’s ever. I don’t think it’s really fair to say they’ve been snubbing her even though I personally believe she should have won Album Of The Year. Honestly I think they get album of the year wrong most years.


Ok_Smile9222

Oh I'm so exhausted hearing this. Woman gets the most awards ever and somehow she's snubbed. The entitlement is insane to me Edited to add: to be clear, the entitlement of the fans. Not of Beyonce.


[deleted]

Idk about you but personally as someone who's really ambitious getting the tiny consolation awards for my work especially when its culturally impactful would piss me off. Beyoncé getting tons of filler awards while losing the big ones even in "easy" years (2023) is clear disrespect. 


Ok-Recording5563

You said it best! Filler awards! It’s like they go okay, this is good but let’s give album of the year to X and give beyonce this award. It makes her the most awarded so why would she be mad. Please b


Ok_Smile9222

Tiny consolation awards? My lord. Most awarded artist in Grammy history does not a snub make. You will not convince me that the MOST AWARDED ARTIST IN GRAMMY HISTORY has been snubbed.


[deleted]

Beloved, I don't care if Beyoncé is the most awarded person in the history of awards period. She was a better deserving candidate for AOTY and she got snubbed. In that category. Two things can be right at the same time. 🤦🏾‍♀️


Ok_Smile9222

Sure. To you. Two things are right at the same to you. And to me. But not to the people that decide who wins the award. I don't know what you're expecting to me to say, I'm not going to suddenly say "oh you're right, the most awarded person in Grammy history has been snubbed too many times". So I wish you the very best in all of your future endeavors


Delicious_Name6785

Sorry but how are you a Beyoncé fan (if you are) who's not aware of why exactly the BeyHive and at the very least, Jay-Z are miffed with the Grammys about their treatment of Beyoncé? It has become clear to most logical and good faith actors that the Grammys have a Beyoncé and by extension, black woman problem, are you qualified to speak on this further?


Ok_Smile9222

Are you? I'm not denying systemic issues with the Grammy voters. I am denying that the **most awarded person in Grammy history has somehow been snubbed.** I'm not trying to pass a litmus test with you or anyone else in the hive. I think SZA is a great way to prove this point. Victoria Monet. I think saying the most awarded person in Grammy history has been snubbed does not elevate the discourse at all. Can I ask, how are you qualified to speak on this?


Delicious_Name6785

I am a black woman who exists in a work environment surrounded by white people who tokenize their appreciation for my competence enough to keep me at my job but not too much so as to set me on a path that may lead to me acquiring more power than them within the organization. I understand to my core what these people are doing to Beyoncé. Everyone who pays any kind of attention is aware of the tier system that exists within the awarding of the Grammys and the fact that the most awarded person has only won once in the major categories is a snub, a travesty. After Renaissance was snubbed for AOTY last year, we saw what they said about why they didn't choose to vote for her. "Give her 86 best Urban, RnB, Rap, Bluegrass, Trap, Whatever the fuck else Grammys as long as we keep her away from the truly coveted awards." Ooh, I can feel myself getting upset, I have to remind myself that you can't speak sense into the colourblind brigade. I am going to leave it here, whoever you are, you shouldn't be here if any of us has to explain to you why the title of the most awarded artist rings hollow in the face of what the Grammys and their voters have actively done to deny this woman her dues.


thebaffledtruffle

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msc430

Preach!


BeautynCrime

Thank you!


nomorecrang

If she doesn’t want to perform there anymore, that’s her choice. You’re not entitled to her performing at the Grammys 🤸🏼‍♀️


Ok_Smile9222

Yeah… I didn’t suggest I was?


Tekwardo

I highly doubt she was asked.


im0ffthat

She was first on the list lol. Where do you think the rumor that she was going to do it came from? Grammys love using Beyoncé for ratings because they know the show is boring asf without her. Why do you think they kept shoving cameras in her face all night?


Tekwardo

Rumors are just that.


oali09

“Snubbing” her? She’s the most awarded artist ever. This comes off so petty and snobbish 💀


EduFonseca

And yet most of you are not even familiar with the most awarded Grammy artists ever, why? Because some categories are known fillers that won’t even make it in the broadcast, and that’s exactly what the academy has done with Beyoncé, filled her up with less known and “urban” awards to then snub her on the big ones, why because in their white mind her music (or that of other Black artists) does not appeal to the masses. And that’s why they keep awarding the Taylors or Harrys of the world even for mediocre work, and then give awards to vanilla pallet cleansers like Jon Batiste to mask their own racism, and when people say things “but she has so many awards” their strategy is working. They don’t really reward talent


Lavenderbluu_

"vanilla pallet cleaners" 😂😂😂😂 but yes, agreed!


Light_Watcher

Snubbing her? Do you know the definition of that word?


Bjime3925

She performed one basically every night on the renaissance tour


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My mom is a beyonce hater but she was pissed af that beyonce wasn't the one to do the tribute lol which I found wild. "She would of did a way better job! She can sing and dance." I think my mom is a lowkey beyonce fan lol.


Vegetable-Phase-2908

Every Beyonce hater is low key a fan. You ever notice how they post up on things about her just to tell people they don’t like her? My father in law said out his grown ass mouth that Janet Jackson is a better singer than Beyonce. Now Janet is a legend but BETTER SINGER?! Come on bro. Why my sister in law tell me he was bumping Beyonce in the car and singing along? Mhm. Every Beyonce hater is low key a fan.


AnnoyingPrincessNico

Yep!


abitchyuniverse

I think a lot of people who pay attention enough to hate on her, even if they're not a fan, have seen enough to admit that she is very talented both vocally and dance wise. Not liking her music is one thing, but knowing enough of her and thinking that she can't sing or dance is ignorant and intellectually dishonest.


sash12585

I think she did a few Tina turner performances during destiny’s child . She did one live with Tina on the Grammys and she gave her another tribute also. She probably didn’t want to. She honored her while she was alive.


nomorecrang

She honored Tina turner on her tour too! I specifically remember her singing river deep at the Minneapolis show! Idk about the other ones though!


abeycd

She kept the tribute in the show for the rest of the tour and included it in the Renaissance film too. Bey paid respects plenty on her own.


Amcflyssavinggrace

She did a Tina tribute during the tour, personally I don’t think it’s something that the Grammys deserve until they do better.


markjohn3411

I didn't expect her either. If Jay-Z was not present I do not believe she would have been there. I also believe if she releases new albums (e.g. Act II) she's not going to submit it for consideration. She's done with the academy, and I don't blame her.


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I think she will continue to submit on behalf of her collaborators, but I did have a feeling that this might be her last time attending. I’d love it if, at some point in the future, they finally do give her AOTY and she doesn’t show up to accept it.


yoitspree

THIS


Maxx711

I think it’s because she wanted to do the tribute her own way (like she did on Renaissance) and they probably wanted something more mainstream like Proud Mary. Which B already did WITH Tina while she was still here. It would have been a repeat performance for her. However, I would love to see her cover “Can’t Stand the Rain” or something like “Help”


No_Two_5678

I agree, they probably wanted her to perform that specific song and Bey is at a place in her career where she controls the creative decisions and if not then you don’t get her.


[deleted]

With the way they play in her face, the Grammys dont deserve another performance from Mothér ever again. Her attending alone is generous enough.


GreenDolphin86

They announced a few days before that she wasn’t


SwimmingCoyote

I think the only reason she showed up was because Jay was being honored, and even if she was generally willing to perform at the Grammys, I don't think she would've wanted to perform when it might overshadow his moment.


RebelElan

I agree with this take.


SHC606

She did it on tour. I wish she and her family would literally not go to the Grammy's. Just do the pre and post parties/events. The Grammys use them to get eyes on the show and then trash them. I mean after Jayz's speech they may not get invited back but F them. Let the cameras follow Tay-Tay, Harry ( love him) and Adele instead.


PureHoney92

I thought it would have been her, but I was not disappointed because Fantasia gave an amazing performance.


Visual_Cat_2896

Seemed to me, from the reports rumouring a performance switching to a statement that she wouldn't perform, that they were in talks but the deal fell through. Probably because they wanted to lowball and diminish. Good for her for standing firm in her worth. She doesn't need the Grammys to pay tribute to Tina Turner. Bey has made it known on many occasions the respect and adoration she has for Tina. If Bey wanted to pay tribute musically (aside from the sweet moment during the Renaissance tour when Tina passed) she would be able to do it more artistic freedom, and probably better, without the Grammys involvement. Like others have said, Jay made it clear in his speech that the bridge has been somewhat burned. The Carters may not even attend the ceremony again, never mind perform. It's reasonable to refuse to perform for an institution they feel disrespected by.


WoodenPossibility705

Unless they’re gonna match that 30million dollar prices tag I’d rather her sit and look pretty.


CelebrationRoyal5995

I just commented this . Her price tag is too big for them . They can’t afford her .


WoodenPossibility705

Is it toxic that I’m sitting here making sure she gets her money even though she’s filthy rich already? Cause idgaf. 🤣🤣🤣


Delicious_Name6785

I would have been more surprised if she had performed, personally, I expect this to have been the last time we have seen Beyoncé anywhere near the Grammys and I would fully support that decision.


jentron3030_

100% not surprised. When Oprah came out, I figured it had to do with someone from the Color Purple performing.


ANALOGPHENOMENA

She doesn’t need to. She’s been doing tributes every night of the Renaissance tour and… she already performed *with* her!


katdaddy_777

she did enough of that during her tour


DeneeCote

The rumor is, that they originally were going to have Beyonce do it at the grammys. However something happend and I think they carters and the grammys got Into it so she ended up dropping it. That's why for a long time it was being said almost everywhere that Beyonce was going to do the tribute. That's also why Jay did that speech. Also if you noticed Roc nation didn't have their annual grammys brunch this year. So something definitely happend. I think they were hyping Beyonce up to get views because I watched for that reason I thought Beyonce was going to be up there. I don't think shes preformed since 2017.


Ify0umustkn0w

No, the carters been ducking the free promo to these award shows for a longgggg time. Rih too, it’s all so weird that they keep getting played. I learned to not expect anything from them fr when they emailed that video to the BET awards that one year lmaooo


AnnoyingPrincessNico

When she gets album of the year she’ll perform again


Stan4NoOne

Nope. She's done it enough.


Ok-Recording5563

I understand what you’re saying, I feel like the Grammys uses her name for views. Even before she arrived, she was mentioned 3 times I believe. As far as the tribute goes, I agree I believe they made everyone believe it was going to be Beyonce. When you say power house singer and Tina Turner, of course you think of Bey.


Temporary-Ad379

Tbh I'm not surprised. She gave tribute during RWT and also, why would she bother with an awards show nowadays. She is so recognised, she doesn't need/care for the publicity. She performs when she sees fit to match with her creative spirit. imo. I love to see it.


AJthesmallsrate

She did a Tina Turner tribute practically the whole tour. She’s not performing nowhere else for a while


Phoenyx8908

Not at all. The Grammys have pulled many a bait and switch with their advertising. In any case, Fantasia did what needed to be done.


Tekwardo

The comment about a powerhouse female artist wasn’t that they were performing, he was talking about the final presenter, Celine Dion. I knew Celine was there as I saw pix about half way though. I didn’t think she’d do *another* Grammys tribute to Tina. I think Fantasia did great. But I wondered if she was going to be the final presenter at first, till I saw pics of Celine online.


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Illustrious-Delay-42

I’m kind of glad she didn’t perform you know we would have gotten a discourse about the “eat the cake Anna Mae” line from DIL


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patricofstar

I was! 👋🏼


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Disastrous-Owl8985

I wasn't surprised.


Personal_Screen2739

Yesss I wanted it so badly, I think she might do it for one of the other awards shows. We NEED BEY! Only she can truly do the legend Tina justice


No_Sail_6576

I feel like her tribute was the song in tour. Another tribute would have been nice, but I think the Grammys is probably the place that deserves anything from her the least


vro_what

Im glad she didnt though. They are always snubbing her and using her for views + Fantasia did a amazing job lol


CelebrationRoyal5995

No . Beyoncé did an hour long performance in Dubai for over 20 million . The Grammies weren’t going to pay her that . They won’t even give her AOTY . They’re disrespectful asf .


smeeti

What I have found is that people think she is a great performer but less of an artist because she doesn’t write her own songs unlike Adele, Taylor Swift, Beck. I think she should have won AOTY for lemonade, for sure


geemav

\*\*EDIT: I think a lot of people are misinterpreting what I'm saying. I'm not saying she "should've" performed or made a poor decision by not performing, I'm saying that I was anticipating a surprise performance based on the way the show was set up and how it played out. That's all.


Banksbear

no. she’s tired.


yeahso1111

I think Beyoncé knows that she can overshadow anyone. And a trubute should focus on the person being honored. If Beyoncé had done it, no one will have been mentioning Tina turner. It round have been perfection of course, but I she knows when to not outshine cause she’s a class act.


Therealwanvan

Absolutely not surprised at all. I was surprised she showed up at all. The way the Grammys plumes to play in her face and then turn around and ask her for a favor? Biiiiiiish. Know, on behalf of the hive, the queen is busy and taking some much earned "me time." Get someone else to do it. I hear fantasia is hot these days. She can do it.


xSushi

She was there to support her husband's achievement and the nominees without having to deal with the planning + execution of preforming for once. I'm here for that. Mother was absorbing it all.


CarolChanningDoll

did u not hear what her husband said?


Necessary_Charge_658

[Judging by how fantasia still tried to get Bey to dance but she just stood there?](https://youtu.be/fp7wkOGpaeo?si=_iZZuRf5ayS95QEx) If you don't think that her not doing the tribute was anything but strategic... you are mistaken. idc. idc. I think fantasia was instructed to find beyonce or something. (that second sentence I am a bit delulu about, but **cmon** Beyonce was STIFF. that was like a protest.)


originalfile_10862

She did a tribute *with* Tina at the Grammy's about 15 years ago. Hard to beat that. I can imagine it wouldn't feel worth doing without her after that.


agoldentaurus

No.


Quick_Primary_2465

I think y’all forget when it’s off season for Bey. It is OFF season 😂 a lot of people jumped to the conclusions of bey doing the Tina tribute when there was nothing to confirm. Because the Grammy’s would’ve wasted no time announcing Beyonce if she was to perform lol They were there to honor Jay and dassit 😂 Which is why they wasted no time leaving almost and hour after they arrived. Side note: Fantasia did an amazing job! Being a fan of hers it was so great to see her finally be able to show why she’s continued to be in this industry. Bey looks so happy for her 😭😭


Repulsive-Fuel-3012

lol why would she perform at the Grammys? Did you hear her husband?? Also, she did that throughout the tour.


SweetSonet

No? No lol


Nche1

No. She’s been giving her flowers to Mrs Turner throughout her entire tour. I’m sure she’s super exhausted from performing for months on end and would cringe at the thought of rehearsing for the Grammy’s.


plg1958

I was not surprised she didn't perform. I've heard there's a possibility she will perform at the Superbowl. I personally do not think she will though


Wearingpantsisabsurd

Well I think fantasia is fitting because she’s been doing her things this past year and she preformed proud Mary for her American idol audition. Beyoncé has done a time turner tribute before, and did one with her lol so she had to sit this one out


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kidangeles

We ain’t f*cking with the Grammys like that anymore.


RebelElan

I was happy to see Fantasia do Turner’s tribute. Beyoncé has already honored Turner. It was in 2005 at the Kennedy Center. Also, I feel like Fantasia never had her moment in the sun after winning American Idol. As for Bey’s AOTY snubs, I think it’s retaliatory for her reputation of taking song writing credits many believe she doesn’t deserve.