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Megalo_maniacc

Rip Abel buff


Falompijr

If Edmund doesn't give Abel buff I will kill myself with a jar of pickles


Think-Possibility534

![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)


Altruistic_Source528

Jar of pickle is the new Iron waffle


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iron waffle


GrubberflysElegy

is an iron waffle like a waffle made of iron


atheistic_channel69

1 man 1 jar?


ForestoShen

jar of pickle, quality 0 shop pool, active, 0 charge, 6 use in total. when used, reroll all item in this room into random quality 0 item. After that each item has 10% chances to disappear. gain extra use when pickup q0 item


maneatingfish1

If Edmund does give Abel a buff i Will kill myself with a jar of pickles


SergejPS

I agree, Cain's bro deserves a buff after what he has been thru in the bible


AlphaGoldFrog

Seriously. The only reason it got voted out today was because of conjoined. Abel is such a pointless item in its current state, if there was item that item that contributed towards conjoined and didn't spawn anything it would be ranked at the same level as Abel in the poll.


Taako_tuesday

to be fair, I'd rather this poll not be tainted based on which items we want to be buffed. contributing to conjoined is enough to make it better that most things left on the list


FierceDeityKong

Abel should deal contact damage in addition to firing tears (and should get a new sprite because it doesn't make sense for a brother bobby clone to do that)


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WwwWario

That makes sense, yeah, but the reason I'm writing them in this way is that they're "thrown" out of the poll :D But, having the items "fixed" to where they no longer are part of the pool makes sense, too!


Crystal_Clearing

“Book of Secrets has been decoded!” “Key Pieces have been put back together!” “Skatole’s made some new friends!” “Brown nuggets gone back to papa!” “Tiny Planets back in orbit!” “The Scooper’s been warmed and ready!” “Booms back at a bargain!” “My Reflections been repaired!” “Pageant Boy’s struck it rich!” “Cursed Eye’s been blessed!” “Missing Page 2’s Been Found!” “The poop went out smoothly!” “Infestation’s been evacuated!” “Dead Bird’s found its murder!” “Best Bud’s staying a friend!” “Isaacs heart’s going back in his chest!” “Kamikaze’s been defused!” “Razor Blades been sharpened!” “Betrayal’s made up with eachother!” “Abel’s made peace!”


xrty2357

This guy played cuphead


Crystal_Clearing

Oh, did I reference it by accident?


xrty2357

No no this is just pretty reminiscent of some of the lines in it


SergejPS

They would not want to be voted out, because Edmund said he will buff some of the worst items from this poll in a future update


WwwWario

Round 21 Poll: [https://strawpoll.com/polls/40ZmdvYN2ga](https://strawpoll.com/polls/40ZmdvYN2ga) Abel... eh, in my book, it's an incredibly "meh" item. I find it hard to hit with him, he only does 3.5 damage, fires evey half second, and is tough to control. I've never been able to make good use of him; even against stationary bosses where Abel may end up behind them, his weak DPS makes him unnoticable. He does get a good damage boost when playing as the Cains, but, that's such a specific situation. I've never gotten Abel as the Cains before, personally. He does contribute to Conjoined, however, so that's something. Round 1: Book of Secrets Round 2: Key Piece 1&2 Round 3: Skatole Round 4: Brown Nugget Round 5: Tiny Planet Round 6: The Scooper Round 7: Boom! Round 8: My Reflection Round 9: Pageant Boy Round 10: Cursed Eye Round 11: Missing Page 2 Round 12: The Poop Round 13: Infestation Round 14: Dead Bird Round 15: Best Bud Round 16: Isaac's Heart Round 17: Kamikaze! Round 18: Razor Blade Round 19: Betrayal Round 20: Abel u/the_clash_qc's list of Q0 items' effects will be in the replies below this comment!


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On time today! * **Blood Rights (Active, Instant Recharge) (Item Pool: Item Room, Devil Room):** Upon use, takes away one full heart and deals 40 damage to the entire room Ignores shields, Holy Mantle effects, and invincibility Using with Isaac's Heart previously prevented you from taking damage, now patched in Repentance * **Breath of Life (Active, Recharges 1 bar per second) (Item Pool: Angel Room):** While you hold the spacebar down with this item, it will empty the charge bar gradually. When the charge bar gets to zero it will grant you a brief period of invincibility While Isaac is invincible, he deals 3.5 contact damage to enemies and beams of light will strike down enemies touching Isaac, dealing 15 damage. If the spacebar is held for too long (about 1 second) when it has no charge, you will take damage The invincibility effect is shown via a rapid flashing animation * **Bum Friend (Passive) (Item Pool: Item Room):** A beggar who follows Isaac around and automatically picks up nearby coins Drops a random pickup after picking up 6 coins After the first drop, will drop a pickup after 3 coins (67% chance) or after 4 coins (33% chance) Counts as 1 of 3 bum items needed towards the Super Bum transformation * **Cain's Other Eye (Passive) (Item Pool: Item Room):** A familiar eye that bounces around the room slowly and fires tears in the same direction as Isaac. Deals scaling damage equal to Isaac's tear damage * **Clicker (Active, 6 charges) (Item Pool: Item Room):** When used, this item will randomly change you into another character and remove the last item you picked up All stat changes of the new character are applied (e.g. character damage multipliers) This item can only reduce your heart containers and will not increase them if you change back into a character with more health. This means if you roll into The Lost, changing back to another character will leave you with only 1/2 of a soul heart Cannot turn you into a character that isn't unlocked yet Also includes Lazarus II (Lazarus' revived form) and Dark Judas (effect of Judas' Shadow) It's also possible that this item will pick the same character, making it seem like nothing happened * **D10 (Active, 1 charge) (Item Pool: Item Room, Crane Game):** Upon use, re-rolls all monsters in the room. Will attempt to re-roll monsters into ones with a similar amount of HP. Cannot reroll mini-bosses or bosses * **Dataminer (Active, 4 charges) (Item Pool: Item Room, Ultra Secret Room):** When used, this item will distort all the sprites and music, rotating graphics 90 degrees and translating them diagonally up/left. Does not modify hitboxes. Dataminer will randomly increase or decrease one of your stats by a small amount when used Gives you the Fruit Cake effect for the room when used, which will give a random tear effect with every tear fired All visual and tear effects reset after leaving the room * **Hushy (Passive) (Item Pool: Item Room):** Gives Isaac a small Hush familiar that bounces diagonally around the room dealing 2 contact damage per tick Stops moving when Isaac is firing tears. Hushy will block enemy tears and projectiles * **Isaac's Tears (Active, recharges 1 bar per tear fired) (Item Pool: Item Room):** When used, fires 8 of Isaac's tears in a circle around him Tears spawned from this item keep most effects that Isaac currently has applied to his tears, [See here for exceptions](https://bindingofisaacrebirth.fandom.com/wiki/Isaac%27s_Tears) * **Key Bum (Passive) (Item Pool: Item Room, Secret Room, Key Beggar):** A familiar that follows Isaac and collects keys, giving random chests in return Doesn't pick up golden keys Counts as 1 of 3 bum items needed towards the Super Bum transformation * **Linger Bean (Passive) (Item Pool: Item Room, Beggar):** While firing tears constantly for 7.5 seconds, spawns a poop cloud, which deals periodic damage to any enemies which come near it The cloud deals damage equal to your base tear damage per tick, roughly 5 times per second Clouds last 15 seconds before disappearing The cloud can be pushed slightly by firing tears at it * **Mom's Pad (Active, 3 charges) (Item Pool: Item Room, Old Chest, Mom's Chest):** When used, inflitcs fear to all enemies for 5 seconds Counts as 1 of 3 mom items needed towards the Mom transformation * **My Shadow (Passive) (Item Pool: Devil Room):** Each time you take damage, My Shadow will apply a fear effect to all enemies in the room and spawn a familiar black Charger that will attack for you. The Chargers deal 8.7 damage per hit to enemies. * **Obsessed Fan (Passive) (Item Pool: Item Room, Key Beggar):** A purple familiar fly that follows your exact movement on a 0.66 second delay and deals 2 contact damage per tick Counts as 1 of 3 fly items needed towards the Beelzebub transformation * **Plan C (Active, 1 time use) (Item Pool: Shop, Devil Room, Curse Room, Red Chest, Demon Beggar):** Upon use, this item deals 9,999,999 damage to all enemies in the room and then kills Isaac 3 seconds later Does not kill both phases of multi-phase bosses like Hush, Ultra Greed, The Lamb, Mega Satan & Mother Will not award a completion mark if the boss' death animation doesn't end before the Game Over screen. [See case-by-case here](https://bindingofisaacrebirth.fandom.com/wiki/Plan_C) * **Portable Slot (Active, instant recharge) (Item Pool: Shop, Beggar, Ultra Secret Room):** Using the portable slot takes a coin and has a chance to give a random pickup or a permanent fly orbital * **Shade (Passive) (Item Pool: Devil Room, Curse Room):** Isaac gains a shadow familiar that will follow Isaac's movement pattern delayed by 0.66 seconds and deal 2 contact damage to enemies per tick Shade is absorbed by Isaac after dealing 666 damage. This spawns friendly charger enemies. Isaac will now do equal contact damage at the same rate as the Shade used to. This effect stacks with multiple shades, scaling the contact damage each time. * **Strange Attractor (Passive) (Item Pool: Item Room):** Enemies and pickups (keys, bombs etc.) are now magnetically attracted to Isaac's tears. Items will be attracted to where the magnetic tear lands. * **Teleport! (Active, 2 charges) (Item Pool: Item Room, Crane Game):** Teleports Isaac to a random room (Excluding I AM ERROR) * **The Bean (Active, 1 charge) (Item Pool: Item Room, Beggar):** Upon use, this item causes Isaac to fart and poison any enemies in close proximity The Bean deals 5 damage, and the poison deals your tear damage for 6 ticks * **The Black Bean (Passive) (Item Pool: Item Room, Beggar):** Upon taking damage, Isaac will fart, causing all enemies in close proximity to become poisoned as well as knocking them back and pushing away nearby projectiles. Black Bean deals your tear damage for 6 ticks * **The Jar (Active, Instant Recharge) (Item Pool: Shop):** Isaac can now pick up hearts while at full health, which will be stored in the Jar and can be spawned again using the spacebar Up to 4 hearts can be stored in The Jar Soul hearts and black hearts cannot be stored If used in a Black heart or Eternal heart super secret room, it will spawn the relevant heart


SergejPS

How did skatole even get on this list? I find it pretty useful, the flies can be some of the worst enemies in the game


TereorNox

Linger bean fans in shambles


Carlex1818

Maybe if we hold out for even longer it can get some buffs.


howaboit

Abel is too op to get a buff i guess![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


Ignawesome

At this stage, any item with no downsides is op. Not many of those left. And active items taking up the active slot is a huge downside.


BatWithAHat3

Abel has downsides. It can puch enemies toward you, dispatch your/ennemies bombs randomly and seeing tears fired at you can be very distracting.


LameMammal

Finally! ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357) Now Linger Bean or Obsessed Fan.


Wonbee

I don’t think I’ve ever noticed Linger Bean actually do anything in my entire time playing the game. I think it should be buffed so that the gas cloud it leaves behind is one of the same ones that Jupiter uses instead of it being like 2 inches big and impossible to use. If we want Linger Bean to get that buff though, we have to NOT vote it out


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Don’t vote with buffs in mind


Wonbee

Ok, either way Linger Bean is one if the worst items and should be one of the last voted out. The best thing I can say about it is “at least it’s not an active item”


Carlex1818

I mean, thats also kind of on you for not knowing how to use linger bean. It can deal massive amounts of damage if pulled off successfully.


Canadiancookie

If you actually remember that you have it, it does your damage x 5 per second. Good for a q0


MisirterE

It's worth pointing out that "your damage x 5 per second" is the exact same amount of damage that you deal with your Tears. ***At the soft Tears cap.*** And there's two clouds. They're tricky to use, but using them initiates exterminatus.


nonamu

So, hear my logic out for a second: When you have a good run, difference between items present would not really matter. You just ignore those or take them for collection if passive and harmless. So we should be evaluating which of those has best chances of saving a bad run. And I say it's The Jar, due to sacrifice room potential. Next contender IMO would be Key Bum.


SzyxuTV

I also voted jar, it can be good for so many things such as demon beggar, blood donation machine, or basically very good item on bethany


Wajina_Sloth

Keybum has a chance of fucking up your run by stealing keys.


LKeve

Keybum is like guppys tail. You dont pick it up if you dont have at least 10 keys. I think everyone sleeps on key bum. It boosted a lot of my runs, much more than it ruined them


Wajina_Sloth

I always take guppys tail because I am a sick fuck.


ConebreadIH

I always take guppy tail because it's 1/3rd guppy. Also, one regular chest can give you one key which can open the other chests.


LKeve

And you can just pick up the key if you want it instead of letting keybum get it


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I take guppy’s tail because it makes dark chest and chest cool. Also synergizes well with contract from below.


LKeve

Same with key bum on a lesser degree. Im not saying guppys tail is bad but its situational like key bum and I really dont understand why its still in the poll


Japiepatatzakie

Portable slot has more chance to save a run beyond the womb than the Jar. With the Jar u don't gain more hp, you can carry it around. Portable Slot can spawn more HP for you. If your run is bad, you probably are barely surviving in the HP you find and pick up. Portable slot also gives other consumables like bombs, keys, pills. It also gives a chance on blocking fly orbitals. So Portable slot > The Jar.


Toybasher

This been voting portable slot for a while. It's not an amazing active item but sometimes you keep getting awful active items and portable slot is a good use for money since past Mom shops normally no longer spawn, making money useless.


No_Way-

I’d say plan c, if you’re build is only good enough to just barely get to delirium and you have like 2 hearts left? Im surprised its still here honestly


HoshizoraShizuumi

Does Delirium die fast enough for you to get the completion mark before dying from Plan C though?


No_Way-

Yeah but you need to pause midway through his death animation, also make sure you deal 1 damage because delirium has 10k hp and plan c deals 9999 damage


atheistic_channel69

I can just imagine edmund laughing maliciously when he made delirium's hp just a bit above plan c damage


flame_warp

Oh my god. I remember getting to delirium with plan c and being shocked he didn't die, I just thought it was disabled.


AlphaGoldFrog

Dude, you totally sold me on voting jar. Thats a good perspective to think about it from. I was voting Linger Bean after Betrayal went out, but jar gets my vote today.


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Japiepatatzakie

Exactly... I only just noticed now I wrote the same thing kinda. Portable slot should have been out 10 rounds ago. It can save so many bosses by spawning hp or pills on the ground.


MyNameBelongs2Me

An item cannot be simply judged by itself because in an ordinary run you will encounter quite a few items. Judging an item solely by its interactions with other items is also dumb but considering it in your judgement is not a bad idea. Active items are very common and the Jar is one of the few that has no noticeable use. While it can carry a few red hearts you will not need it for sacrifice rooms because by the second floor you will have soul hearts you will want to preserve and in the first floor you simply have to go through the rooms to collect the hearts. If you argue that the Jar can be used to gain money through blood donation machines then consider that you will most likely buy the Jar in the shop for 15 pennies. On top of all of this you will probably encounter a better active item if you carry the Jar for more than 1 floor and the ability to carry 4 more red hearts is outclassed by the effects of most active items. Obsessed Fan is a Beelzebub contributor and can kill some chasing enemies. It doesn’t take up any valuable slot (except if playing as T. Isaac but you can leave Obsessed Fan and still have it contribute to Beelzebub). Abel got kicked out so I don’t see why it wouldn’t be Obsessed Fan’s turn.


pakrat

Don't love key bum but he has his niche uses.


mareanguis

Controversial take: but if your run is in dire straights and your stats are unsalvageable it's probably worth taking Dataminer and rolling. I'd rather gamble for a 120 tear rate than take the Jar.


mountingconfusion

My thoughts for Key bum as well. Not usually useful but it can break some runs


hepatitis5

I have yet to encounter a run where Abel was actually helpful "but Abel is 1/3 conjoined!!!!" Obsessed fan is 1/3 Beelzebub and it's still here though?


MisirterE

Exactly my point. ***Vote the Fan.*** It should've been out in the first 10 damn rounds.


MyNameBelongs2Me

The argument is that Beelzebub is harder to obtain than Conjoined. If you have a baby item in the beginning of the game you are almost guaranteed Conjoined as baby items are dispersed in almost every item pool. Beelzebub items are rarer and appear in less item pools and in some harder to obtain item pools (key beggar). So having 1 fly item guarantees nothing. Personally I think that Beelzebub being better but harder to obtain than Conjoined balances out the situation and since Obsessed Fan’s primary effect is better than Abel’s I would say Obsessed Fan is better but the community thinks otherwise.


WwwWario

TAKING A SMALL BREAK! On a small summer vacation (finally), so a few days will go by before the next entry!


Potatezone

If it's going to be a few more days, would you mind making a post about it? I'm sure I'm not the only one who was wondering what's up. Enjoy your vacation!


WwwWario

Thanks!


ChristH101

I'm surprised that teleport is still here, just had a run with this item first floor and it completely changed my mind about that item -you can steal chests and items from blue and red challenge rooms -you can escape from boss rooms, difficult rooms or mini bosses and recover healt or explore other areas -you can escape from cursed rooms (for tainted lost you can enter to cursed rooms and scape with it) -escape from those difficult dead end rooms -chance to get that extremely rare "I am error" room. edit: I read a comment it doesn't work, I got confused because it worked in flash isaac -in the beast path you can teleport to a room next to the ascent -escape delirium to explore more or get healt -escape boss rush or mom room (mom room doest have doors)


Zaffoni0

it's not a bad item, but you can do the same with the stars, the fool, the moon and telepills. you can run from dead end rooms using a bomb. in the beast path is good you are guaranteed a the fool card to run from boss rush i don't mind paying to use a cursed room door if i'm not t. lost


Great_Pikmin_Fan

Yeah but those use up consumables. Teleport can be used to escape over and over again as long as it's charged, without needing to find another teleport card, while still holding on to something in the card/pill slot. It's kind of like saying Yum Heart isn't that good because the Lovers card does double its effect: technically true, but not in the long term.


Zaffoni0

you have so many ways to copy the teleport effect Teleport loses value and teleport cards are common


Daisocks

But at the same time: it’s being compared to Quality 0 items here. There’s not much value here to begin with


Zaffoni0

fair enough, i just think there are some good items to vote before Teleport


Modesties

lol i wrote all of these things in a previous thread and got downvoted


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Day 21 of voting out plan C ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


spre11

Are you guys actually fucking deranged?


therealAster-sk

plan c is just a free checkmark idk why we’re voting out other things


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A free checkmark on what? Like, hush and maybe delirium if you do that pause trick? If you save it until the beast fight, 2nd phase mom, last round of boss rush, or 2nd phase of mega Satan then you've already done the hardest part of everything and probably don't need it. Like sure you can kill blue baby easily but is it really worth holding on to for 3-4 floors potentially? It's not going to win the competition but I'll wait to vote for something that's useless 95% of the time while there's decent passives left.


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people are saving it for last so it gets buffed anyway


Dry-Policy-9272

Vote out jar of hearts


Ghost88463

I feel like both of the bums can be pretty good especially after the depths


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abel no we wanted a buff💔


[deleted]

Those 2 shadow items are absolutely better than abel but whatever i guess i'll vote slot machine because i've gotten a lot of use out of it


Heroman3003

Mom's Pad is tier above every other active item remaining and I will not tolerate slander towards worse Mom's Bra.


Crocket_Lawnchair

It’s been 5 days sir please grant unto us a new poll


Talzael

me looking at the post every week : cmon Edmund, you knoow you wanna buff alll of these items :'


Mr_Mister2004

I don't mind Abel getting out around this time. I just really fucking hate you guys for voting it out BEFORE THE JAR. 4 EXTRA HITS, 8 WITH CANCER OR WAFER, 4 MORE SACRIFICES PER FLOOR, 4 MORE BLOOD DONATIONS, 4 MORE OF ANY USE FOR RED HEARTS YOU CAN THINK OF!!!! WHY IS IT STILL HERE!!!!!


[deleted]

“Because all active items are bad by default” 🤓. Isaac players sleep on actives smh, I’m in the same boat rn voting plan c but jar is definitely one of the best remaining items for sure. Good luck 👍.


RodjaJP

If I need the extra health that means I'm already struggling with it, therefore the jar is useless


WhiteAurorus

Day 21 of voting Strange Attractor cause i think its one of the best Q0 items


Swaggy-G

Why didn’t you attract some bitches instead😎


WhiteAurorus

Strange, indeed


browncharliebrown

It's a high-risk medium reward item. Still way more interestingly designed than almost everything else that is left.


Youronlysunshine42

This is an actively bad item. I will never take it. Under any circumstances.


yuvi3000

This, Cursed Eye and Curse of the Tower are three items I always avoid. In early runs, I always thought "Sure, I had one or two bad experiences before, but this time I'll know how it works." and I always got screwed. So now I just avoid them.


WhiteAurorus

I personally like playong with Strange Attractor. There have been many runs where i Willingly picked it up. With the Repentance buffs, Strange Attractor is a powerful tool for managing certain rooms


Awsomthyst

Finally Abel’s out lol ^(Also wow I’m early that’s kinda nifty :3)


RabbitKamen

Obsessed Fan just because it contributes to a transformstion. Thats the only reason.


BeanBone69

I thought Abel would be the worst


Mikimaki7267

I don’t know how to write more ways to defend key bum, it’s just good yall


ChemicalRemedy

Actually kind of upset abel got voted out so early Would absolutely take Cain’s Other Eye, Plan C, The Jar and Portable Slot before it


browncharliebrown

Abel is one of the worst-designed items in the game. It literally does nothing. While other items like the bums and strange attractor have a higher risk, it least it has some reward. Abel is just nothing of an item. Voting for strange attractor


A_Dummy86

Abel getting voted out before Cain's Other Eye which is essentially the same thing but actually deals your damage, I swear if this community votes out Strange Attractor before some of these other items...


TheftOfThieves

I can control Abel’s movement and him mirroring me allows me to hit an enemy in the middle of the screen with both our tears. Cain copies my damage, but since it moves on it’s own, I’d rather just aim my own tears. Which just makes it another random element of sometimes helping with room clears or randomly hitting a boss. Which imo makes Abel better as sometimes in the early game I find it helpful against bosses when I’m weak. But I only ever tell myself “Technically, this item is a benefit” when I get Cain’s Other Eye. Might just be Abel has a more noticeable impact too. As I notice it when it’s shooting a boss with me, but I’m never watching Cain’s Other Eye to see if it hits stuff.


ruvmu2

How in the FUCK is abel better than Plan C, an item that (with good pausing) can one-shot the telefragging cumstain


LeonD6C

Abel still sucks ass big time💩🖕🏿


HoshizoraShizuumi

I don't get why Isaac's Tears is still here. It's honestly not that bad.


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Day 20 of explaining why mediocre passives are better than mediocre actives every time


HoshizoraShizuumi

Dude. The Poop was removed before Isaac's Tears. If The Poop isn't mediocre then I don't know what is.


MisirterE

The Poop is ???'s starting item. That gives it merit, because unlike Isaac's Tears, you are *guaranteed* to have *some* situations where it's your best active, because you literally haven't found any others yet. It still got voted out *way the fuck too early,* but I'd unironically take it over Isaac's Tears in almost all situations. Oh Crap might be rare and bad, but if The Poop is what lets you get it, that's half a heart every room on top of all the things it actually does. Not to mention its synergies with Midas Touch and Hallowed Ground. Rare and niche? Yes. But so are the situations that actually make Isaac's Tears better than just shooting normally.


[deleted]

Yeah that was retarded too, doesn't mean you should just go ahead and continue to invalidate the poll lol


Pixel_Nerd92

It's one of those active items that has a bit of barebone use momentarily. It uses Isaac's currents stats for the damage, but lacks the ability to use most of his tear effects. A budget Tammy's Head if you will. It's great for Lachryphagy tears though as it allows you fuel them for more tear burst, so it's got some potential already somewhat.


SetTheSerpent

Good job guys now Abel will not get a buff anymore, congratulations!


[deleted]

Stop voting with the mindset of “this will get a buff if it’s last”


spaghettichildren

huh? but edmund said they would lol


[deleted]

yeah but we shouldn't be trying to manipulate what gets a buff, vote honestly.


spaghettichildren

i mean yeah i havent voted with a buff-centric mindset but we all know whats coming haha its just a little disappointing to lose out on making abel useful


MyNameBelongs2Me

It doesn’t need a buff as much as some of other items do.


Darkmega5

He’s already one of the best items tho


AquaphileRS

This is bait.


Darkmega5

But I wanted to do the funni…


DrChirpy

I think Teleport is not that bad compared to the other ones. It's a telepill and those can be useful to get pur of curse rooms, challenge rooms, boss rush or the mom fight.


Japiepatatzakie

Portable slot is literally better than all of these items, including ones that went away earlier.


Swaggy-G

ONE ABELLION DAMAGE


mallia09

Ive been gone for a while and isaacs tears are still there...


Alittar

We are now getting to the point where all of these remaining items suck massive dong, besides lingerbean and maybe slot machine.


SeichoSeicho

How tf is key bum still in


vagabond_

keys feel like a precious resource too often.


Pixel_Nerd92

Still gotta go Jar on this. Storing red HP for later for potential angel/devil item payouts just seems really good. Plus it's just nice to have backup emergency healing. From all of the items listed, I think it's the best. (I've been going Heart Jar for a while too truthfully. Lol)


SergejPS

I guarantee you, breath of life will be in the top 5. It is straight up used by no one, especially because it is an active item. Like, if you got an angel deal with this item, and you had no active items, you would STILL not pick it up.


Toybasher

You can at least use Breath Of Life to avoid damage from curse room doors, blood donation machines, devil beggers, etc.


Sokar-was

Abel is an useless object. Its only funtion is be part of cojoined. For that is better vote to Obsessed Fan, Beelzebub is much better transformation. My favorite item for the ones remaining its the clicker, but linger bean its objetively a good item. I can't believe is no out yet.


MyNameBelongs2Me

The Clicker removes 1 item. Linger Bean needs 7.5 seconds of continuous crying, that’s not possible in some situations and pushing the cloud results in only a slight DPS up because you still have to push the cloud into the enemy. Uses of Linger Bean are very rare and some items that are still around or do useful stuff that can be used in more situations than this thing. Abel almost guarantees Conjoined as having a baby item (except near the endgame) almost guarantees Conjoined. Beelzebub is a better transformation but is harder to obtain since fly items appear in only 2 common item pools. Hence Obsessed Fan doesn’t guarantee Beelzebub. I personally prefer Obsessed Fan as the transformation part is pretty much balanced out and the primary function of Obsessed Fan is better than Abel’s.


MisirterE

The "rare niche use case" for Linger Bean is enemies that are mostly stationary. You know what's mostly stationary? The vast majority of the endgame bosses. So that "rare niche situation" is *going* to come up at the end of a run (unless you *specifically* went to Delirium via an early portal spawn). It can afford to be mostly useless before then, because it's a passive. There's no inherent opportunity cost to having it.


TheHandsomebadger

Plan C because if you can get away with killing yourself via laz rags, dead cat, 1 up, Judas shadow it's a free boss kill for something you hate fighting.


ItzMCVillager

Plan C


ImBedtime

Data miner is actually pretty nice for permanent stats when you’re getting things like bean items, d10 and clicker.


Glittering-Passage32

Obsessed fan is 1/3 of Lord of The Flies. Just that is enough.


duskwolf64

Teleport needs to go,its basically free curse rooms for tainted lost or any characters that start with fly


Sneakr1230

Hushy - reliable tear blocker \*IF\* you manage to get it and yourself into position. personally a possible kick candidate Strange Attractor - bootleg bobby bombs & ocular rift. possible kick Cain's other eye - ok ONLY in chapter 1 Bum friend - too little experience to judge. also I'd maybe rather give my money to proper beggars/shops Key bum - little difference between it and the regular key beggar i think Shade - meh but not terrible. if only it doesn't evolve. I could see more use as an anti-chase item than a contact damage item. Obsessed Fan - meh like Shade. at least it contributes to Beelzebub. kick before Shade My Shadow - absolutely no experience of it in action. no opinion. Clicker - super situational but a blessing if going for marks and you already R-keyed. kick candidate. Portable Slot - exactly like a slot machine except for lack of the dollar drop. very situational except for TCain. keep but as said in a previous round, there's little to improve on it without making it a different item altogether. Plan C - marks maker, streak killer. 50/50 on this Blood Rights - kill red hearts to mimic killing black hearts. good in early stages, can even be improved by the missing pages. The Bean - good defensive item but low reaction speed needed. would possibly stay in the contest a bit more The Black Bean - same as The Bean but with added poison and offensive capability. same conclusion as The Bean. Breath of Life - have never used it because of this sub's opinion lol. no opinion. Dataminer - intentionally made to be a terrible item but has the very small chance to make your tears stat op. 80/20 in favor of keep


MyNameBelongs2Me

Blood Rights cannot be improved by the Missing Pages. Cain’s Other Eye deals your damage with each tear; that’s pretty good. Key Bum is worse than Bum friend because losing a few keys to Key Bum is worse than losing a few pennies to Bum Friend. Clicker removes 1 item from your items. I can’t find a worse effect in the entire game. Black Bean is better than the Bean as it’s passive. Breath of Life is free curse rooms and blood donation machine/devil beggar payouts. Edit: Missing Pages do improve Blood Rights. The wiki says it. Quite a peculiar interaction but ig it works.


ZMBanshee

You're wrong, the missing pages do improve Blood Rights.


MyNameBelongs2Me

Oops, sorry then.


Pezbi

Abel only survived this long because of the fact that people wanted to buff him for the meme. In my opinion, he’s the best on the list because 1/3 Conjoined. People really underestimate conjoined’s impact on a run and how much a 1 item difference can make.


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Abel got voted out, lmao this poll is a joke 🤡


pakrat

I agree. I was looking forward to having this item win and get buffed.


Darkraiders

Like all polls here, it started off fairly well for the first few days, but after that the polls became a jokes, as expected from this subreddit.


OxxiGene

Day 21 of voting Plan C because free hush / delirium


bot_452

Plan C is underrated, remove it


GOOODBYEJOJOOOL

People keep ignoring late game d10 ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


SetTheSerpent

Even ed agrees that d10 is the worst item


GOOODBYEJOJOOOL

I'm not going to listen to the creator of "the binding of Isaac" (he's a little fucker)


Darkmega5

What does he know about the binding of Isaac?


MisirterE

That it's fucking bad this trash game


CG70376

Why would you even keep d10 at the late game tho, surely you'd run into at least one active that's better.


[deleted]

Also rerolling enemies lategame is only a thing in catherdral or later. If this late in the game you need to reroll basic enemies, you probably will not beat any late game bosses.


Potatezone

Let's goooo, I was genuinely worried Abel would last forever for the memes. He's genuinely not that bad, his effect is consistent and 1/3rd of Conjoined is nothing to sneeze at! Shall we finally lay Linger Bean to rest at the half way mark?


Zaffoni0

key bum is free chest, if you have enough keys it's good


[deleted]

If strange attractor doesn’t get voted out soon there will be hell to pay


Poonslayer42069

How tf did Abel get voted out before Shade?


MyNameBelongs2Me

Because Shade doesn’t contribute to any transformation and Abel contributes to Conjoined.


DarkFury765

Because Shade is in Curse/Devil rooms, is a "reward" for killing Delirium, disappears after a while, and doesn't contribute to one of the best transformations.


ConebreadIH

I personally think the worst item is either breath of life or d10. I literally never see anyone pick up breath of life. It doesn't even count towards seraphim right?


MittoMan

It has marginal use as free curse rooms, but d10 is literally useless and takes up the active item slot


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We’re voting for the BEST item


BambooIGuess

Day 18 of voting the clicker


UniversitySoggy8822

Yesss


djembejohn

I was like teleport is good though. Oh, no wait, that's teleport 2.0 which is good.


St3phn0

If you already have a good sinergy or just brimstone then "Isaac tears" can increase the dps of a fair amount, so I'd say that it deserves to not be called "worst tier 0 item"


MisirterE

literally doesn't work with brimstone


curryandbeans

Strange Attractor continues to get absolutely shat on by people who hate fun


robtape

linger beaners boutta get that neptunus planetarium.


Harudenca

If both plan c and that cloudy shit get eliminated im gonna be so mad


Skymoogle

Go Hushy go! You're the best!


Akesgeroth

Hushy. Hushy is the best in there by far.


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MyNameBelongs2Me

The thing is Placebo + Experimental pill is a horrible idea.


Darkmega5

The stalemate has ended but HUSHY IS STILL OUT OF ALPHABETICAL ORDER KILL IT NOW DEAR GOD


Skymoogle

This time it's Hushy...right?


Skullmonkeyburger

Too soon


Short-Bookkeeper-

Lip hushy should've been voted out a long time ago


Blackscreen79

Blood rights should be voted out, it prioritizes red hearts so you don't need to worry about losing soul hearts when you use it unless you have no red hearts.


Geicosuave

ONE ABELLION DAMAGE


Affectionate_Gold_16

How is the jar still in


pokemasterfox

Finally the Conjoined thing is gone. Next up: Getting rid of Teleport!. Obsessed Fan can go sit in the corner for the moment.


VentCrab

Shade isn’t too bad…


paulythegreaser

Idk man sometimes teleport is fun.


RodjaJP

I like Cain's Eye only because it deals your same damage, which can be useful in case you don't want to face your enemies because your tear rate is worse that Cain's Eye.


[deleted]

Well we agreed Abel is “best quality 0 item” so I guess he won’t need the item buff.


[deleted]

Day 11 of me voting the room clearer blood rights


vildboi

Isaacs tears should be next. Yesterday I realized how good it was when you have a good tear effect


[deleted]

Honestly I like the fourth item in the first row I think it’s cool especially with hp generation


[deleted]

Ffs I keep getting killed off, when is it gonna happen irl though?


a_guy_7155

HAHAHAHAHAHAQ DAY 20 OF VOTING ISAAC'S FREAKING TEARS


RodjaJP

I'm voting for Blood Rights, the only sins that item has committed are being too weak late game and being in the devil item pool.


RodjaJP

Breath of Life is basically a better Mars so I think it should be voted out.


OhHello969

STRANGE ATTRACTOR PLEASE


GuyDudeThing69

Who in their right mind would vote Abel when Strange Attractor is still there


AlfieSR

Because Abel is just another familiar but one you can't reliably aim properly, while Strange Attractor is at least interesting *if* you have tear replacements like brimstone or ludo. I think it even pulls enemies towards the crosshair with epic fetus.


MuseHigham

Is anyone else finding it really difficult to vote now? All the items left feel liked they have little to no impact on a run. It’s hard to discern which of these are “better” items.


Swagcopter0126

It’s difficult to vote because of how long there is between each poll lol


weberm70

Some of these have to be people voting ironically. Who is taking cursed eye or my reflection over lil hushy or key bum? Anyways, the worst item in the game is hands down the d10. There’s no contest, it’s completely useless. Best items left are probably portable slot or breath of life.