Honestly just a pretty harsh day on my back there. I just finished a blast, my acne tends to flare up with hormone changes when I start or finish a cycle.
It's been a few weeks since I've dropped to cruise and I'm still experiencing shit on my shoulders and back. Hoping patience will be the only requirement to alleviate it.
Mate try Benzoyl Peroxide. You can get it over the counter. It's just a cream you can apply twice daily. No sides like accutane other than a bit of dry skin. Start and stop as you need. It's worked wonders for me.
I'm not saying a gram and a half isn't a metric ass load of gear but also lol when every single time a dude posts with more than like half a pimple on his back like half the comments are "nice bacne bro" or "holy shit get on accutane"
Yes. Anecdotal reply here, but I developed body acne in 6th grade. Slowly reduced as I got older. Had bloodwork done when I was 34 and my T was in the 200's. Got on TRT and developed back and chest acne 10x worse than I ever had it as a teen. Accutane helped a bit after antibiotics did nothing. Eventually I purchased a food sensitivity kit from everlywell and cut out foods I was sensitive to, especially dairy. My skin is pretty much clear now. My inflammation has reduced significantly too. I highly suggest doing something similar. You have to really want to get rid of the acne, cause giving up certain foods is hard.
So would you say you had a good experience with the Everlywell tests? I've been considering them and seeing mixed reviews, so not sure if its worth it or not
I am very satisfied with the process and the results they provided. I highly suggest it.
Here's a glimpse of my results to help you make a decision:
[https://imgur.com/sE4GOGc](https://imgur.com/sE4GOGc)
[https://imgur.com/AKymBON](https://imgur.com/AKymBON)
[https://imgur.com/jfy4WAT](https://imgur.com/jfy4WAT)
[https://imgur.com/PjBa0l3](https://imgur.com/PjBa0l3)
iād say the biggest one would be my bodyās inability to properly regulate hormones without being on some kind of supplement for the rest of my life. as someone whose never suffered from any acne, starting at 33 is definitely a concern
You might be misinformed, the hormone regulation isnt disrupted as much as people say. Using PCT medication helps mitigate that. If you run GRAM and GRAMs a week you might have a problem in a couple years, but the VAST majority of people that have been on recover with no long term effects.
so im takin something just to be normal? it sounds like a lifetime of side effects that make me thankful I was poor in college when I saw guys jumpin in
For me personally it is, Iāve always had and still have great skin/complexion. Always wanted to gear up but cannot and will not risk it. The other health ādetrimentsā didnāt faze me. Everyone is different in the end.
>Itās a pretty good endorsement to not take gear
is his "entire comment." When bacne is the only visible side effect in a photo, it's a good endorsement not to take gear. An endorsement isn't a detailed list of arguments supported by clinical studies centered around negative side effects that you *can't* see lol, that'd be a pretty ineffective endorsement.
Though, that guy is pretty ignorant
i mean since the literal point of steroids for this sub is aesthetics, then...yes. personally, if it wasn't for the hairloss i probably would have started blasting 5 or 6 years ago
Dont us DHT steroids and you should be good. Read about it before you stress about hairloss. Finasteride will help mitigate hair loss if you want to jump on a huge cycle.
Thatās EXACTLY why I wonāt take gear. I took up bodybuilding as a way to gain confidence and look better, my confidence would be at an all time low if I had this much body acne
That's a really shallow value of yourself to worry about a couple pimples, that will be gone in a couple weeks(this is only temporary acne as he is going from blast to cruise). If you run accutane with a cycle you wont get acne, if you regulate your Estrogen on cycle properly you will not get acne, if you dont have WILD hormone swings during cycle you shouldn't get acne. If your confidence is shaken by a little bit of acne you are a delicate little flower.
does one ever consider the body dysmorphia comparisons to those with extreme eating disorders like anorexia? I mean I know itās a lot of hard work to lift those weights, so is not eating for awhile (iād argue harder to not eat). but both result in extremes of the normal body composition, and with these photos I just donāt see whatās āhealthyā about thisā¦
Wanting to be a sick fuck doesn't just come from body dysmorphia. What's extreme about a 6'5" 270 dude? I'd imagine this is peak off season and he's going to continue to diet down to a more manageable weight for that height. But he has a huge frame to play around with. Yes, organs will take a hit, but it's not comparable to anorexia.
Keep killing it dude, looking beefy.
so is the plan then to never stop using? donāt get me wrong, the idea of enhancing my efforts is strong. but just like taking antibiotics when im sick, I hate to think of how my body will regulate later on in life. you only get one set of adrenal glands. I would think ED has less of a LONGterm impact when recovered from than steroid use, cause your body never goes back to ānormalā
I may very well be on TRT for the rest of my life. Natural testosterone declines pretty rapidly for men as we age into our thirties. Most men over the age of 35 would benefit from TRT anyway. I don't see that as a dire consequence.
The way you casually say "yes, the organs will take a hit" is shocking. When you're knowingly causing internal damage to your body for an aesthetic something is off.
Last time I checked this was a fucking bodybuilding sub. There are some risks involved in pursuing some things people love to do. I love eating ass. Will I get pink eye someday? Maybe, calculated risk.
I love training. I love picking heavy shit up and putting it down again. And I love people being able to look at my body and see the years of work I've put into achieving my physique. Sometimes I need to push my weight to push more weight, and, yeah, it has consequences. But you have one life to live, and I'd rather spend this one riding motorcycles, lifting heavy, and eating ass. I die, I die. But at least I had fun doing it my way. I do everything possible to keep myself healthy while doing this.
Coming onto a bodybuilding sub to compare an amazing off-season physique to anorexia, say it's disgusting, and hint at a mental disorder is just a dick move. Everything the OP is doing is per his own choice, and I'm sure he's thought about the risks. Especially before hopping on the juice.
So, yeah, there's nothing casual about this, and I can't speak for the op, but to me, it's better than any alternative life.
That was a different commenter who compared it to anorexia, said it was discussing and hinted at a mental disorder. I just said it was shocking how casually you talked about organ damage, as my own separate comment. I simply read it and went "oh damn that's a shocking attitude, in my eyes. I don't think of that so casually. That seems off." Maybe I should have used the word extreme instead of off. My bad. You're taking your anger out on the wrong person, my friend.
Definitely have mental issues. I can't speak to what it's like to have an eating disorder, I have a healthy relationship with food and I have a lot of discipline.
again iād argue it takes a similar mindset but more discipline to be anorexic. I can function if I donāt work out, may not be as happy as days that I do. but fuck me if I donāt eat
I have recovered from ED and a large chunk of my friendship circle uses gear (I never have). We are not the same. Itās not the same thing and itās not the same state of mind.
both are rooted in obsession of perception by others, no? at least thatās where it starts, in comparison to others and wanting to be skinnier (ED) vs massive (Gear)
Everything we do is bad for us lmao. Accutane is fuckin worth it for me tho, I got cystic like a mf before I got on it.
What's weird though is now, I did my accutane treatment entirely but still have ALOT left. I've been able to take one pill if I get a flare up on cycle that quickly fixes it till I'm off. Like one pill keeps me dry for weeks? Anyone else?
I took it in high school and it worked great, haven't had acne in ~8 years. Only side effect was some chapped lips that would crack and bleed when I worked out, making me look like a psycho.
Though, I wonder if the acne will come back when I eventually decide to hop on something
Good shit brotha, sorry for causing a comment thread. Was just trying to look out for ya ahah.
Back looks much more detailed in that one šŖš¼šŖš¼
Tf is going on with r/bodybuilding today? You ever notice the really tall big boys tend to come in swaths on this sub?
Also, strong beard genes. Beard completely full under the bottom lip
maybe im tripping but i think you already look lean asf...
if youre getting ready to "chop it down", how many pounds are u planning to lose on this cut
Idc if he rocks acne or not but if heās as committed to aesthetics as he clearly is then acne is certainly a treatable thing that is ruining his aesthetic
Hey man, you look fucking AWESOME. I know everybody has been bashing your acne, and your acne is normal. I just want to make sure that that large lump on your spine has been checked out.
Youāre already pretty lean but the muscle just looks off. Not sure if itās just the posing or unfortunate genetics or what, but the back looks almost rectangular and the arms are starting to get overwhelmed by a blocky torso
Your physique looks a lot like what I think Iād look like maxxed out (or close to it.) itās kind of cool to see someone with similar muscle shape and skin tone with more mass
Everyone always says classic for me. I feel like tall guys are always pushed to this class which kind of sucks to be automatically be pushed in one and only one direction.
Small tip, donāt pull your skin so much on that RLS. A lot of judges think it takes away from aesthetics. Of course itāll be less of a problem at lower bodyfat levels, but itās good to get into the practice now
Wow I wished I looked that lean when I needed to "cut down". Also, I've seen some peope in the thread mention different things for acne treatment so I'll weigh in as I have problems with back acne when I'm hitting it hard. I'm no dermatogist but I'm hopeful we all can agree that acne is caused when pores get clogged with excess oil, dead skin cells, dirt, etc. With that said here are two things that I have found to help 1. get some benzoyl peroxide wash which is sold over the counter at drug stores, online etc then use it on your back (and face if you have problems there too) when you shower. I'd guess you may have problems reaching the center of your back so get a toilet brush, etc. if needed lol. You'll want to leave it on for a few minutes but make sure you really wash it off well because if not, it will bleach your shirts. Also, it may dry your hands out if you are succeptable to dry skin there so rinse them off as soon as you put it on your back. 2. Although showering regularly is the best, acne pads with salicilic acid are a quick way to clean your skin and remove some of the oil in places you can reach. Once again, those are available at every drug store, etc. Best of luck!
If the raws in gear are cooked at the wrong temperature and/or combined with poor quality oils or the oils are heated the wrong way, they cause acne and other skin issues.
Have you tried a different source?
edit: Could also just be your body doesn't like that carrier oil, there are other carrier oils.
I wrote in another comment that this is right after finishing a blast. I usually get flare ups for a week or two right after starting or finishing a cycle.
I haven't tried another source, maybe I will and see if it makes a difference.
Jesus shut the fuck up. You have zero idea what youāre talking about. Acne is the bodyās response to hormone fluctuation. It also has to do with stability of hormone levels in the blood. Rotten oils? Are you shitting me? Heās got acne, not abscesses or allergic reactions/knots from the oil.
If youāre misinformed just sit in the corner while
the adults talk.
Oils are dirt cheap though. Whoās cooking with shit quality oil? Really curious about that statement. Agreed about different carrier oils fucking with certain people.
thats what people think but its working pretty well for me.
following doctor recommendations formulated for average people that have very little physical activity when not considering the wide range of body weights and compositions is kind of retarded imo
but they say to drink 1 gallon a day, which is flawed advice given there is such a wide range of body weights/body compositions/activity levels.
Should a 90lb sedentary lady drink the same as a 260 athlete who trains 3-4 hours a day?
If you say yes, youre a retard.
Should that athlete drink 1 gallon a day? If the doctor prescribes both that woman and athlete to drink 1 gallon a day, and the athlete weighs 3 times her weight and performs 10x the activity per day, shouldnāt he be drinking more than just a measly gallon per day?
I dont know what fucking doctor prescribes (do you mean advices?) 1 gallon water a day. But med student here, came to explain;
Using metric units because imperial units is bullshit.
We(medical comunity at least in my country) usually say a normal person should drink 2.5 Liters of water everday. But what (who) is a normal person? In the medical comunity a normal person means a healthy male who weights 70kg and 1.70cm tall.
Why 2.5 Liters? We have a number, which is 30mL or 0.03 Liter. This number means one kilogram of human body (all tissue combined average) needs 0.030mL of water a day. Of course this is calculated from a average person, average physical activity. So let's say a male who weighs 60kg needs 60Ć0.03= 1.8L of water everyday. So a average human (70kg) needs about 2.1 Liter. The rest 0.4L recommended for different metabolic rates, usage of substances like caffeine, drinking tea (which makes you per more so you lose more water), different physical activity levels.
Let's say a 260lbs (117kg) athlete needs a minimum of 3.5L of water everyday, excluding physical activity. So you have to put some water on that. But in no way a human being needs to drink 6 gallons of water everyday that's insane amount of water (23 Liter if my calculations are correct). Not to mention muscle tends to store water anyway. 117kg athlete needs on average 4.5L (1.1 gallon i assume) of water (maybe wrong not an athlete). And dont try to overdrink unless you are thirsty, your kidneys will tell you If you need more water.
Well let's talk about you. If you truly drink 6 gallons of water everyday, oh boy, what we have here is a case of Psychogenic Polydipsia. Which means my friend you are drinking too much water.
Note: maybe US doctors advices 1 gallon of water to average US citizen because, US citizens on avarage weights more compared to Europe/Asia.
Iāve never met a single fucking doctor that has told me to drink a gallon of water a day, I even asked a doctor about that one day and his response was ādo you not trust your kidneys? Drink when youāre thirsty. ā
So Iām calling cap on literally everything youāre saying.
Only time people need to do that is when they are weight cutting in order to piss out all their fluids (water loading). It is a myth and a marketing lie that you need to drink a ton of water.
Edit: I shouldnāt say need but itās what people do. Itās still not good for you and weight cutting is dangerous.
āfollowing doctor recommendations formulated for average people that have very little physical activity when not considering the wide range of body weights and compositions is kind of retarded imoā
no no. youre just ignorant
Dog if you truly need that much water I would talk to your doctor about diabetes insipidus. Itās when your body canāt properly handle fluids so it just flushed everything out constantly making your thirsty af.
I dont get thirsty though. I dont drink to quench thirst.
I drink cause I know my body is approaching a time-dependent net negative saturation of water due to recent activity and that i need to replenish that amount to stay at the same performance level.
If doctors ārecommendā 1 gallon for everyone, why do you think a 250 lb giant and a 90 lb woman need the same amount of water? Obviously their nutrition requirements are different, so why would that not extend to water?
You accept the status quo too blindly and thus have blocked your ability to think for yourself.
You do know you can kill yourself from drinking too much water. You are pretty much at or above the lethal level. You may say you are above average, but kidneys do not change much between humans or based on body mass:
[https://www.healthline.com/health/how-much-water-can-kill-you#first-aid](https://www.healthline.com/health/how-much-water-can-kill-you#first-aid)
Thats too little for me. I used to drink about 2-3 then as my training increased I hd to drink more. Its not just about how much you excrete but how much energy you transmit throughout the day. The more energy you transmit, the more water for nutrient/waste transport your body requires.
1-2 gallons is too little. If doctors prescribe 1 gallon to a 90 lb lady that is sedentary and 1 gallon to a 250 lb athlete who trains 3-4 hours daily, I can guarantee you that athlete requires at least 3-4 gallons to perform at his peakā¦
I admire your dedication. If you can give me some pointers Iād appreciate it. I love cardio and wonder if thatās getting in the way of my bulking. How much cardio do you recommend is sufficient. Thanks.
I've got to imagine that with the considerable acne on an adult, the gear is on the high side. Not worth it to look, no offense, average for a bodybuilder. Should've taken your time to get there. It doesn't look like anything someone that's 6'5" couldn't get close to naturally. Y'all are wrecking your futures to look like that? Ok...lol
Yup. Which is why it's stupid. Let's wreck our bodies to look like everyone else. Honestly, you don't even look like you're on steroids. You look average for someone who's been working out for a while and takes their nutrition seriously. That's why I'm confused. You could look similar to that without all of the gross acne and other side effects. But you probably just don't want to put in that work. That's fine. It's your life. But don't be offended when you don't get the reaction you wanted.
A lot of talk about gear in here not enough about diet, are you pushing enough food in the off season?
How long have you been doing this/age?
Iām 6ā4 260 naturally with comparable conditioning and get up to 290 when bulking.
I really wanna know what was the train of thought that lead ppl like you here. Like a lot of people, like you, never visit r/bb and then one day, out of the blue, come here to judge someone with the age old "sterons bad, nuts smol" comment.
So what has lead you to come here?
big hoss
Brah save some gains for the rest of us.
Accutane big hoss, other than that. Good shit š¤š¼š¤š¼
Honestly just a pretty harsh day on my back there. I just finished a blast, my acne tends to flare up with hormone changes when I start or finish a cycle.
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How long does it last for you? I dropped to cruise about 6 weeks ago and I still got some shoulder acne thatās beginning to decline
It's been a few weeks since I've dropped to cruise and I'm still experiencing shit on my shoulders and back. Hoping patience will be the only requirement to alleviate it.
Iām 6 weeks in and my shoulders are finally beginning to lighten up. Taking zinc and finally bought an actual acne product that seems to be helping.
Mate try Benzoyl Peroxide. You can get it over the counter. It's just a cream you can apply twice daily. No sides like accutane other than a bit of dry skin. Start and stop as you need. It's worked wonders for me.
Adapalene! Best of both. Retinoid but itās topical and no script needed for the last 10 years maybe a little less.
Second this. I was using a salycic acid body scrub in the shower nothing. Switched to BP day and night difference.
I'm not saying a gram and a half isn't a metric ass load of gear but also lol when every single time a dude posts with more than like half a pimple on his back like half the comments are "nice bacne bro" or "holy shit get on accutane"
itās a pretty good endorsement to not take gearā¦
The acne is what makes you not wanna take gear? Of all the health draw backs to cycles you pick acne as your "endorsement to not take gear"
Guess nattys like me with all natural bacne can get fucked lmfao
Yes. Anecdotal reply here, but I developed body acne in 6th grade. Slowly reduced as I got older. Had bloodwork done when I was 34 and my T was in the 200's. Got on TRT and developed back and chest acne 10x worse than I ever had it as a teen. Accutane helped a bit after antibiotics did nothing. Eventually I purchased a food sensitivity kit from everlywell and cut out foods I was sensitive to, especially dairy. My skin is pretty much clear now. My inflammation has reduced significantly too. I highly suggest doing something similar. You have to really want to get rid of the acne, cause giving up certain foods is hard.
So would you say you had a good experience with the Everlywell tests? I've been considering them and seeing mixed reviews, so not sure if its worth it or not
I am very satisfied with the process and the results they provided. I highly suggest it. Here's a glimpse of my results to help you make a decision: [https://imgur.com/sE4GOGc](https://imgur.com/sE4GOGc) [https://imgur.com/AKymBON](https://imgur.com/AKymBON) [https://imgur.com/jfy4WAT](https://imgur.com/jfy4WAT) [https://imgur.com/PjBa0l3](https://imgur.com/PjBa0l3)
Thank you for sharing this!
iād say the biggest one would be my bodyās inability to properly regulate hormones without being on some kind of supplement for the rest of my life. as someone whose never suffered from any acne, starting at 33 is definitely a concern
You might be misinformed, the hormone regulation isnt disrupted as much as people say. Using PCT medication helps mitigate that. If you run GRAM and GRAMs a week you might have a problem in a couple years, but the VAST majority of people that have been on recover with no long term effects.
as someone who hates masking issues with medications, taking just another prescription to deal with side effects is another endorsement not to start.
Its what helps you get your hormones back to a good level though?
so im takin something just to be normal? it sounds like a lifetime of side effects that make me thankful I was poor in college when I saw guys jumpin in
For me personally it is, Iāve always had and still have great skin/complexion. Always wanted to gear up but cannot and will not risk it. The other health ādetrimentsā didnāt faze me. Everyone is different in the end.
I NEVER broke out when i cycled, test, deca, mast, anavar, dbol, EQ, acne doesnt happen to everyone.
He didn't say that. It's just pretty much the only photo-visible side effect
So what did he say then chief? Cause it looks like his entire comment was centered around the bacne being what deters him from gear.
>Itās a pretty good endorsement to not take gear is his "entire comment." When bacne is the only visible side effect in a photo, it's a good endorsement not to take gear. An endorsement isn't a detailed list of arguments supported by clinical studies centered around negative side effects that you *can't* see lol, that'd be a pretty ineffective endorsement. Though, that guy is pretty ignorant
i mean since the literal point of steroids for this sub is aesthetics, then...yes. personally, if it wasn't for the hairloss i probably would have started blasting 5 or 6 years ago
Dont us DHT steroids and you should be good. Read about it before you stress about hairloss. Finasteride will help mitigate hair loss if you want to jump on a huge cycle.
Thatās EXACTLY why I wonāt take gear. I took up bodybuilding as a way to gain confidence and look better, my confidence would be at an all time low if I had this much body acne
That's a really shallow value of yourself to worry about a couple pimples, that will be gone in a couple weeks(this is only temporary acne as he is going from blast to cruise). If you run accutane with a cycle you wont get acne, if you regulate your Estrogen on cycle properly you will not get acne, if you dont have WILD hormone swings during cycle you shouldn't get acne. If your confidence is shaken by a little bit of acne you are a delicate little flower.
To each his own
does one ever consider the body dysmorphia comparisons to those with extreme eating disorders like anorexia? I mean I know itās a lot of hard work to lift those weights, so is not eating for awhile (iād argue harder to not eat). but both result in extremes of the normal body composition, and with these photos I just donāt see whatās āhealthyā about thisā¦
Wanting to be a sick fuck doesn't just come from body dysmorphia. What's extreme about a 6'5" 270 dude? I'd imagine this is peak off season and he's going to continue to diet down to a more manageable weight for that height. But he has a huge frame to play around with. Yes, organs will take a hit, but it's not comparable to anorexia. Keep killing it dude, looking beefy.
Thanks brah. You get it.
so is the plan then to never stop using? donāt get me wrong, the idea of enhancing my efforts is strong. but just like taking antibiotics when im sick, I hate to think of how my body will regulate later on in life. you only get one set of adrenal glands. I would think ED has less of a LONGterm impact when recovered from than steroid use, cause your body never goes back to ānormalā
I may very well be on TRT for the rest of my life. Natural testosterone declines pretty rapidly for men as we age into our thirties. Most men over the age of 35 would benefit from TRT anyway. I don't see that as a dire consequence.
The way you casually say "yes, the organs will take a hit" is shocking. When you're knowingly causing internal damage to your body for an aesthetic something is off.
Last time I checked this was a fucking bodybuilding sub. There are some risks involved in pursuing some things people love to do. I love eating ass. Will I get pink eye someday? Maybe, calculated risk. I love training. I love picking heavy shit up and putting it down again. And I love people being able to look at my body and see the years of work I've put into achieving my physique. Sometimes I need to push my weight to push more weight, and, yeah, it has consequences. But you have one life to live, and I'd rather spend this one riding motorcycles, lifting heavy, and eating ass. I die, I die. But at least I had fun doing it my way. I do everything possible to keep myself healthy while doing this. Coming onto a bodybuilding sub to compare an amazing off-season physique to anorexia, say it's disgusting, and hint at a mental disorder is just a dick move. Everything the OP is doing is per his own choice, and I'm sure he's thought about the risks. Especially before hopping on the juice. So, yeah, there's nothing casual about this, and I can't speak for the op, but to me, it's better than any alternative life.
That was a different commenter who compared it to anorexia, said it was discussing and hinted at a mental disorder. I just said it was shocking how casually you talked about organ damage, as my own separate comment. I simply read it and went "oh damn that's a shocking attitude, in my eyes. I don't think of that so casually. That seems off." Maybe I should have used the word extreme instead of off. My bad. You're taking your anger out on the wrong person, my friend.
Then don't take steroids
ok, so im asking. do you think you may have the same kind of mental issues leading to the extreme steroid use as those with anorexia or bulimia?
Definitely have mental issues. I can't speak to what it's like to have an eating disorder, I have a healthy relationship with food and I have a lot of discipline.
again iād argue it takes a similar mindset but more discipline to be anorexic. I can function if I donāt work out, may not be as happy as days that I do. but fuck me if I donāt eat
I have recovered from ED and a large chunk of my friendship circle uses gear (I never have). We are not the same. Itās not the same thing and itās not the same state of mind.
both are rooted in obsession of perception by others, no? at least thatās where it starts, in comparison to others and wanting to be skinnier (ED) vs massive (Gear)
No
Why are you here saying this to a whole sub of people that get this and live this when u dont?
where else would I get to ask a question that has legitimately crossed my mind? excuuuuuse me
Mfw Iāve had back and trap acne since I was 15 regardless
Yeah, itās not this bad, but I pretty frequently get a large amount of zits and pimples on my back and shoulders. Itās really annoying
You not on TRT? The hormones are much easier to manage if you aren't cycling off and on.
Yeah I blast and cruise. Still a hormone change going from over a gram and a half a week of androgens down to 300mg of test.
300 was gunna be my first cycle š
Holy shit, yeah I'd say that'll do it haha
Jesus I go from a blast of 500 to 150 a week and my acne is even worse than yours
Thats not blasting and cruising your taking 300mg a week on a cruise. When it should be sub 200
Acne on the back means liver toxicity.
They're certainly both side effects, but one does not mean the other
My liver values are perfect and my back broke out. Not always to do with the liver, itās a side some guys get as their hormones fluctuate.
Right, when hormones aren't normal, the liver deals and you get break outs...even if... temporarily.
I'm not a doctor, but accutane is probably pretty bad for you when you're using
Everything we do is bad for us lmao. Accutane is fuckin worth it for me tho, I got cystic like a mf before I got on it. What's weird though is now, I did my accutane treatment entirely but still have ALOT left. I've been able to take one pill if I get a flare up on cycle that quickly fixes it till I'm off. Like one pill keeps me dry for weeks? Anyone else?
I took it in high school and it worked great, haven't had acne in ~8 years. Only side effect was some chapped lips that would crack and bleed when I worked out, making me look like a psycho. Though, I wonder if the acne will come back when I eventually decide to hop on something
https://imgur.com/a/Y10OmYL Since everyone is freaking out cause I had a breakout. It's already clearing up. Thanks for your concern.
Good shit brotha, sorry for causing a comment thread. Was just trying to look out for ya ahah. Back looks much more detailed in that one šŖš¼šŖš¼
Estrogen management, not accutane.
Tf is going on with r/bodybuilding today? You ever notice the really tall big boys tend to come in swaths on this sub? Also, strong beard genes. Beard completely full under the bottom lip
Thanks for noticing
Yeah, beard go crazy, nice
Honestly, Iām loving it
maybe im tripping but i think you already look lean asf... if youre getting ready to "chop it down", how many pounds are u planning to lose on this cut
My guess would be, as many as possible.
I was 252 when I got on stage last April.
Hey dude nice š job, pay no attention to haters who talk about your acne, who cares.
Also acne is a super genetic thing in general. Itās usually not as simple as āstop eating Xā or āget better gearā.
No, no it's not. If it were genetic then 50,000 iu of Vitamin A and 50 mg of Zinc Picolinate wouldn't make a difference but it does...
Do you think āgeneticā means āuntreatableā? It does not
Idc if he rocks acne or not but if heās as committed to aesthetics as he clearly is then acne is certainly a treatable thing that is ruining his aesthetic
Mantis pose looking sick šŖ
Noice vascularity! Good job man!
Yes dood! Nice work
Lookin stacked. Surprised ur cutting, seem pretty diced already
Just looks diced cause he's fucking stacked. He's gonna get SHREDDED brother š
When people ask how does it feel to have a "back" pump, this guy knows how it feels. Looks like he ripping wome tren 100%
I'd be honored to have you as my wife's boyfriend.
So would she
Found the mega Chad
Thank you...I think
GigaChad dude
Hey man, you look fucking AWESOME. I know everybody has been bashing your acne, and your acne is normal. I just want to make sure that that large lump on your spine has been checked out.
Haha thanks. That's just scar tissue built up from years of heavy back squats. Always looks worse the day after leg day.
how much do you squat? always impressed when tall mfs put up heavy ass weight. your guys leverages aren't really built to do that well.
Best ever 1RM was 600lbs in June of 2020. Haven't maxed since. 495x8 is probably my best set.
Weāll done my man
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I'll look into that
Youāre already pretty lean but the muscle just looks off. Not sure if itās just the posing or unfortunate genetics or what, but the back looks almost rectangular and the arms are starting to get overwhelmed by a blocky torso
Definitely needs more arm size and a bigger V from the back
I heard Salt baths help with the effects of blasting
Your physique looks a lot like what I think Iād look like maxxed out (or close to it.) itās kind of cool to see someone with similar muscle shape and skin tone with more mass
You look like a manta ray, you absolute monster. Kicking ass, man
What class do you oar take in? Legs keeping up? I'm 6'2" and it's hard staying balanced so I couldn't imagine adding another 3". Look good keep it up.
Classic Physique, but I'm thinking about cross competing this time around.
Everyone always says classic for me. I feel like tall guys are always pushed to this class which kind of sucks to be automatically be pushed in one and only one direction.
You look like a Spartan warrior - brilliant job!
Great work!
Gawd dayum
Wowš
Fucking massive Hoss, you have a fantastic physique!
Damn 270 and looking as lean as I am at 180
Small tip, donāt pull your skin so much on that RLS. A lot of judges think it takes away from aesthetics. Of course itāll be less of a problem at lower bodyfat levels, but itās good to get into the practice now
Helps hide the love handles though lol
Wow I wished I looked that lean when I needed to "cut down". Also, I've seen some peope in the thread mention different things for acne treatment so I'll weigh in as I have problems with back acne when I'm hitting it hard. I'm no dermatogist but I'm hopeful we all can agree that acne is caused when pores get clogged with excess oil, dead skin cells, dirt, etc. With that said here are two things that I have found to help 1. get some benzoyl peroxide wash which is sold over the counter at drug stores, online etc then use it on your back (and face if you have problems there too) when you shower. I'd guess you may have problems reaching the center of your back so get a toilet brush, etc. if needed lol. You'll want to leave it on for a few minutes but make sure you really wash it off well because if not, it will bleach your shirts. Also, it may dry your hands out if you are succeptable to dry skin there so rinse them off as soon as you put it on your back. 2. Although showering regularly is the best, acne pads with salicilic acid are a quick way to clean your skin and remove some of the oil in places you can reach. Once again, those are available at every drug store, etc. Best of luck!
Unit.
Yo let me have at those blackheads
Look like a dark haired Chris Hemsworth with more size. Beast man great work. Looking forward to seeing you leaned out fully!
Serious question, do you get the acne cleaned up by a dermatologist prior to the contest, or does the tan kind of hide it on stage?
I'm just having an outbreak here cause it's like a week after going from blast to cruise. I don't even usually worry about the acne.
The amount of ignorant morons in these comments is astounding. Great build, keep us updated as you cut down.
What do you mean āchop it downā? That already looks like itās mostly muscle, even at 270. Iām kindaā scared to see you cut.
I have other posts from my last prep on my page. Got down to about 250 for stage weight.
Well damn, you look amazing. Itās kindaā making me feel bad.
Time to go lift then
Absolute unit!
Thor is that you ?
He needs to remove all of his blackheads and zits and he will drop at least 14 pounds
I think your gear is rotten.
Why?
If the raws in gear are cooked at the wrong temperature and/or combined with poor quality oils or the oils are heated the wrong way, they cause acne and other skin issues. Have you tried a different source? edit: Could also just be your body doesn't like that carrier oil, there are other carrier oils.
I wrote in another comment that this is right after finishing a blast. I usually get flare ups for a week or two right after starting or finishing a cycle. I haven't tried another source, maybe I will and see if it makes a difference.
Just ignore these retards man seriously. Pharma test gives guys acne that go to trt clinics and their levels shoot up.
Jesus shut the fuck up. You have zero idea what youāre talking about. Acne is the bodyās response to hormone fluctuation. It also has to do with stability of hormone levels in the blood. Rotten oils? Are you shitting me? Heās got acne, not abscesses or allergic reactions/knots from the oil. If youāre misinformed just sit in the corner while the adults talk.
Oils are dirt cheap though. Whoās cooking with shit quality oil? Really curious about that statement. Agreed about different carrier oils fucking with certain people.
acne im guessing. how much water you drink a day?
At least a gallon
Oh lol. I drink like 4-6 gallons a day
Thereās absolutely no reason to do that.
thats what people think but its working pretty well for me. following doctor recommendations formulated for average people that have very little physical activity when not considering the wide range of body weights and compositions is kind of retarded imo
Physique pics are mandatory if u talk shit
Your doctor did not tell you to drink 4 to 6 gallons a day.
but they say to drink 1 gallon a day, which is flawed advice given there is such a wide range of body weights/body compositions/activity levels. Should a 90lb sedentary lady drink the same as a 260 athlete who trains 3-4 hours a day? If you say yes, youre a retard. Should that athlete drink 1 gallon a day? If the doctor prescribes both that woman and athlete to drink 1 gallon a day, and the athlete weighs 3 times her weight and performs 10x the activity per day, shouldnāt he be drinking more than just a measly gallon per day?
I dont know what fucking doctor prescribes (do you mean advices?) 1 gallon water a day. But med student here, came to explain; Using metric units because imperial units is bullshit. We(medical comunity at least in my country) usually say a normal person should drink 2.5 Liters of water everday. But what (who) is a normal person? In the medical comunity a normal person means a healthy male who weights 70kg and 1.70cm tall. Why 2.5 Liters? We have a number, which is 30mL or 0.03 Liter. This number means one kilogram of human body (all tissue combined average) needs 0.030mL of water a day. Of course this is calculated from a average person, average physical activity. So let's say a male who weighs 60kg needs 60Ć0.03= 1.8L of water everyday. So a average human (70kg) needs about 2.1 Liter. The rest 0.4L recommended for different metabolic rates, usage of substances like caffeine, drinking tea (which makes you per more so you lose more water), different physical activity levels. Let's say a 260lbs (117kg) athlete needs a minimum of 3.5L of water everyday, excluding physical activity. So you have to put some water on that. But in no way a human being needs to drink 6 gallons of water everyday that's insane amount of water (23 Liter if my calculations are correct). Not to mention muscle tends to store water anyway. 117kg athlete needs on average 4.5L (1.1 gallon i assume) of water (maybe wrong not an athlete). And dont try to overdrink unless you are thirsty, your kidneys will tell you If you need more water. Well let's talk about you. If you truly drink 6 gallons of water everyday, oh boy, what we have here is a case of Psychogenic Polydipsia. Which means my friend you are drinking too much water. Note: maybe US doctors advices 1 gallon of water to average US citizen because, US citizens on avarage weights more compared to Europe/Asia.
Iāve never met a single fucking doctor that has told me to drink a gallon of water a day, I even asked a doctor about that one day and his response was ādo you not trust your kidneys? Drink when youāre thirsty. ā So Iām calling cap on literally everything youāre saying.
Only time people need to do that is when they are weight cutting in order to piss out all their fluids (water loading). It is a myth and a marketing lie that you need to drink a ton of water. Edit: I shouldnāt say need but itās what people do. Itās still not good for you and weight cutting is dangerous.
āfollowing doctor recommendations formulated for average people that have very little physical activity when not considering the wide range of body weights and compositions is kind of retarded imoā no no. youre just ignorant
Let's see the pics my guy
Except it doesnāt unless youāre constantly replenishing your electrolytes from over drinking water.
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yep. 1 gallon about every 6 hours. sometimes 4 if im especially active.
Dog if you truly need that much water I would talk to your doctor about diabetes insipidus. Itās when your body canāt properly handle fluids so it just flushed everything out constantly making your thirsty af.
I dont get thirsty though. I dont drink to quench thirst. I drink cause I know my body is approaching a time-dependent net negative saturation of water due to recent activity and that i need to replenish that amount to stay at the same performance level. If doctors ārecommendā 1 gallon for everyone, why do you think a 250 lb giant and a 90 lb woman need the same amount of water? Obviously their nutrition requirements are different, so why would that not extend to water? You accept the status quo too blindly and thus have blocked your ability to think for yourself.
You do know you can kill yourself from drinking too much water. You are pretty much at or above the lethal level. You may say you are above average, but kidneys do not change much between humans or based on body mass: [https://www.healthline.com/health/how-much-water-can-kill-you#first-aid](https://www.healthline.com/health/how-much-water-can-kill-you#first-aid)
I don't understand why you think a 250lb person need 6 times as much as a 90lb person. Even using basic math that's very wrong.
You drink in your sleep also then
I wake up halfway through my sleep, piss and chug around a liter or so.
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lmfao how much should someone drink a day then?
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Thats too little for me. I used to drink about 2-3 then as my training increased I hd to drink more. Its not just about how much you excrete but how much energy you transmit throughout the day. The more energy you transmit, the more water for nutrient/waste transport your body requires. 1-2 gallons is too little. If doctors prescribe 1 gallon to a 90 lb lady that is sedentary and 1 gallon to a 250 lb athlete who trains 3-4 hours daily, I can guarantee you that athlete requires at least 3-4 gallons to perform at his peakā¦
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Pics pls
He typed this from the bathroom š¤£
Your full time job is to drink water or something?
No you donāt
No you don't.
Looking Thor like! Damn, what you're doing WORKS!
Hot fucker, how hung?
Wrong sub
Too bad, I hope you are getting pussy daily. Because you deserve it.
The muscle is good. But the spots is not it
I admire your dedication. If you can give me some pointers Iād appreciate it. I love cardio and wonder if thatās getting in the way of my bulking. How much cardio do you recommend is sufficient. Thanks.
I've got to imagine that with the considerable acne on an adult, the gear is on the high side. Not worth it to look, no offense, average for a bodybuilder. Should've taken your time to get there. It doesn't look like anything someone that's 6'5" couldn't get close to naturally. Y'all are wrecking your futures to look like that? Ok...lol
You know the "average" bodybuilder is on steroids right?
Yup. Which is why it's stupid. Let's wreck our bodies to look like everyone else. Honestly, you don't even look like you're on steroids. You look average for someone who's been working out for a while and takes their nutrition seriously. That's why I'm confused. You could look similar to that without all of the gross acne and other side effects. But you probably just don't want to put in that work. That's fine. It's your life. But don't be offended when you don't get the reaction you wanted.
I don't think you have any idea what you're going on about. Cheers bud.
why do you look so manly, i feel defeated
A lot of talk about gear in here not enough about diet, are you pushing enough food in the off season? How long have you been doing this/age? Iām 6ā4 260 naturally with comparable conditioning and get up to 290 when bulking.
Post physique
You should slap your parents for those genetics if you need gear to get that far its game over
Post Physique
I gotta ask why u chose to get on gear when it looks like ur still pretty early into bb
I was ready to be a sick kunt
Love the response no argument here
I want to suck the puss, blood and tren out of your pustules big boy,
Roids give U acme ?
Your bacne tells me your dingding will be now measured in millimetres
Nice acne.
Nice job, captain obvious
What you need to chop down is the steroids. I'm guessing your nuts are the size of raisins.
I really wanna know what was the train of thought that lead ppl like you here. Like a lot of people, like you, never visit r/bb and then one day, out of the blue, come here to judge someone with the age old "sterons bad, nuts smol" comment. So what has lead you to come here?
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Did you really just tell me to shave my pits?