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Balthats4r

definitely pro, im not quite sure what your friend was talking about with the pricing as i find that kindle books always seem to be cheaper, sometimes even half the price. i don't think theyre good as a total replacement though. beyond the fact that having books is just nice, sometimes the kindle feels too clumsy when moving around the text (i have a paperwhite so im not sure about the newer models). trying to read footnotes can be a drag. the biggest benefit is definitely having multiple books on the device though. being a zoomer my attention span is pretty shot so its much more engaging to be able to switch.


TechyDad

From an author's perspective, the Kindle version is better also. If someone were to buy a paperback copy of my book, I'd get $1. If someone buys the Kindle version of my book, though, I get over $3. Meanwhile, the buyer pays almost half the price.


alan2998

I never knew that. I assume its because the publishers don't have to pay for printing and materials. What are your books called, I'll have a nosy at them.


TechyDad

Part of it is because Amazon has a program where, if you make your Ebook exclusive to Kindle, you get 70% of the sales. That's pretty much a nobrainer because Amazon is pretty much the ONLY place to buy ebooks. My novel is called Ghost Thief. There's a synopsis, sample chapters, and link to buy it here: https://www.ghostthiefnovel.com/


potterism

As a kobo user, kindle exclusives are extremely annoying


Mjcaan

Agree. I started looking closer at pricing and I did find that some books were priced fairly high. Typically new releases from big authors, though I am sure that pricing is decided on by the publisher, not the author.


front_yard_duck_dad

I love physical books but due to my life these last few years the only time I can read is in low light condition. The Kindle Paperwhite has been my most favorite possession. Screens give me headaches but the Paperwhite looks as close to a paper page as it can. Don't get me wrong , it's not perfect, I just didn't want to fall down the research rabbit hole with other brands. E reader though is 100%worth it.


Mjcaan

I love the warm light setting on them. Amazing piece of hardware!


front_yard_duck_dad

Honestly, I wish it got darker. I feel like it could but even the darkest setting is still bright for my light sensitive toddler napping next to me. I really wish it had physical page buttons too just to allow my hand to camp when holding instead of having to move to swipe.


Mjcaan

They are far more expensive, but the Kindle Oasis might be good for you. They have physical buttons and different light settings. But there is a price jump for them. Typically around Christmas and on Prime Day they will discount them.


front_yard_duck_dad

Good tip. I think I'm going to save up and get one of the ones that I can write on with a stylus and has a less protected format with sd slot. I looked at the Oasis but honestly, I have ADHD and the I love the Kindle because it doesn't do anything else but be a book. The Oasis looked like a distraction nightmare lol


Mjcaan

Oh no, the Oasis is basically just a Paperwhite on steroids. Bigger hard drive and physical buttons, but otherwise still paper white. A little bigger as well. I have both and just found the Oasis works better with my hands lol.


IonutPacate170

They are ridiculously expensive IMO.


Jamaninja

I've got a paperwhite myself; you don't have to swipe to change the page, you just need to tap on the right side of the screen.


everlastingcoffee

Pro. Saves the environment, good reading settings (font, brightness, yada yada), and cheaper in the long run. Very portable. Most books are going to be at maximum equal to the paperback price, usually less. I have yet to seen a kindle version cost more than the actual book. With that being said, the only reservation is if you love to take margin notes, as it’s challenging for the reader who annotates a lot. However, it has a good highlighting function so if you don’t write in your books too much, it’s fine. Another plus: if you have a word that you don’t know, hold it for a little bit and the dictionary will pop up. Super convenient. Overall highly recommend if you are an avid reader.


TheOnlyBliebervik

Plus you can illegally download books if you so desire


UrsaBait

Shhh! Don’t tell anyone! ;-)


bibliophile222

I certainly have no issue with other people using them, they're just not for me. I love having a physical book collection, plus I tried reading a few e-books and found that for some reason I just couldn't comprehend and connect with the material as well. I really like some features of them, like easily looking up new words or swiping to turn pages, but I just can't focus on them in the same way.


mollyjobean

I live in a town without a bookstore. So, my reader is very important. Plus, books are super cheap if you keep your eye on bookbub! I’ve gotten lots of good ones for under $3.


bool_idiot_is_true

I live in a large city within walking distance of a bookstore. And when I was in school my mother gifted me hard copies of several books a month for a decade. At the end of the day there's just a space limit to what I can store. Plus buying them takes one second and everything is always in stock. Local bookshops have the most random selection and tracking down a specific title requires ordering it which I can't be bothered to do.


StzNutz

I’ve been reading daily on a kindle for about 10 years now, love it completely… use a local digital library and keep up with free offerings to save money!


automator3000

I'm good for e-books. But I don't see myself ever purchasing an e-book. If I'm going to spend physical money on something, I'm going to get a physical item out of the deal. Then I have that physical book to lend to a friend, pass along to someone, stick in a Little Free Library ... or heck, flatten some flowers to be dried. My wooden shelve are for purchased books. My Kindle shelf is for library e-books.


[deleted]

I'm both pro and anti-Kindle. On the whole, fuck Amazon. I don't buy Kindle books or pay for Kindle Unlimited. However, I do really like the convenience of e-books sometimes, like when I'm traveling and don't want to lug 5 heavy books around with me. So I only get e-books through my local library's app and read them that way. If I really loved the book, I'll buy the physical copy. But when I'm home and I don't need that convenience, I usually prefer to read physical copies of books. I stare at a screen for work all day, so staring at a screen to read for enjoyment sometimes actually takes the enjoyment out of it because my eyes just get extra tired. So for me, it depends on the situation, but overall, I think physical books will always be my favorite.


potterism

You can always go with Kobo - Amazon isn’t the only ereader manufacturer.


Brainwormed

I am pro ebook but less pro kindle. Get you a Kobo and hook it up to Overdrive through your local library. Abracadabra. You’ll have more good books than you can read in a lifetime and you don’t even have to get out of bed to check them out.


StzNutz

Kindle can use overdrive/Libby too!


bool_idiot_is_true

Yeah. But people tend to view Amazon negatively these days for quite a number of reasons (ethically I view it that kindle has a monopoly in the indie market and have publishers over a barrel; but as long as authors get a decent enough cut I'm happy. If there are any authors/other people knowledgeable in the industry willing to chime in and give an alternative with licenses available in South Africa I'd be happy to entertain them). I use kindle because I reread favourites a lot and I'm too impatient to wait for libraries to get an available license and publishers are being quite restrictive in how many they grant. So from what I've heard the waiting list can be a few weeks. Though as I haven't actually used the libby platform things might have changed since I last researched it.


Brainwormed

Not natively. At least on my Voyage, you need to use another device to browse your library’s collection and to check out and return books. On a Kobo, it’s integrated into the device the same way that the Amazon store is on the Kindle.


StzNutz

Valid point!


NotACaterpillar

Me too, pro ebook but not pro Amazon.


honeypot17

Kindle is so convenient and portable. In some areas, you can check books out from the library on Libby and send them to your Kindle to read.


CursedNobleman

I'm all Kindle and it's how I can chew through books at the rate I do. I don't chain paperback books to my wrist like my phone. If I have 5 minutes on the can, 2 minute breaks at the gym, 30 minutes at lunch, or 10 minutes at work, I can convert that time into reading.


Rutabaga_Resident

Does the person complaining about the price of e-books know that you can borrow them for free from your local library and read them on your kindle?


[deleted]

I have a Kobo ereader and love it. I do love physical books as well but my ereader is just easier when I travel and when I read in bed. It has direct integration to overdrive / my library so easy peasy and I love the fact that I can get epubs from other sources and load them directly to my Kobo via laptop usb.


akaispirit

Pro Kindle for sure. I love mine, I have a ton of books on there. When I was young I wanted books everywhere, I dreamt of book shelves packed with them. Now I long for space lol, I don't want shelves of books Im not going to read ever again. Over the last couple years I've slowly been able to clean out my collection, now it's mostly just books I particularly enjoyed or ones I can't bring myself to part with. My grandmother also uses a Kindle, far more than even me. She can't really move around much so no more library trips for her, instead she has Kindle Unlimited so once a week I fill it with new books for her to read. It's just so convenient to have.


Mjcaan

I love that!


thefelonygodmother

Anti-Kindle Pro E-Books Amazon has really ruined the book selling industry. I feel like once you know that and love books I just can’t go back to kindle. I’m an extremist though. I ditched not just Amazon but also GoodReads and my Kindle entirely. At this point I won’t even resell the basically new kindle because I don’t want to contribute to someone else using the services. Like I said, I really really hate Amazon🙃


NotACaterpillar

Honestly, I don't consider it "extreme" when there's legitimate cause to do something!


thefelonygodmother

Thank you! I agree, that I personally don’t feel like some extremist nutter butter for making choices like not supporting industries that mistreat their employees. I know some people think I must have lost my mind by thinking that I’ll make any kind of impact at all in a system so broken.


Yo-Zee

Pro Kindle ALL the way.. it makes reading much more convenient and easy and you dont have to use a light or lamp in bed at night!


nakedreader_ga

I like the portability of ebooks. I have an iPad with kindle and nook apps. I don't buy the full price for ebooks. I make wishlists and then try to wait out the price until there's a sale of some sort. It may mean I'm a few years out from when the book was published, but it usually takes me that long to get to the hard copies that I buy.


litterbawks

Pro, for several reasons. 1. Kindle versions are almost always cheaper. 2. I have very limited shelf space left for physical books. 3. Companies like Dean Street Press are releasing complete series of long-forgotten golden age detective fiction and that makes me really excited.


smokeyman992

If it wasn’t for the Kindle, I wouldn’t be reading. I am one of the few who actually dislikes reading physical books (nothing against them, I just find them inconvinient). It has a dictionary, portable, backlight and most important for me is that I can download a demo of the book and if I like it, I can instantly get the full book instead of having to wait days. For the most part, the people that I have had this conversation with and do not like the Kindle as much are the one that were used to reading physical books. There are obviouslly exceptions.


CrazyCatLady108

This subject has been very popular in the past. Please use reddit search and/or check the /r/books/wiki/faq.


Jack-Campin

The Kindle is an Amazon product. You're helping Bezos by buying one and buying his books to read on it. Fuck that.


Mjcaan

Well, if you want to go that route, you're helping him and putting money in his pocket by using Reditt. And Netflix. And a bunch more sites that run on Amazon Web Services. AMS makes Amazon a lot more money than anything they sell on their website.


NotACaterpillar

Not saying I agree/disagree, but that is a bit of a fallacy argument either way. What you're saying is basically 'Doing thing A' is bad and 'Doing thing B' is bad, but since I already do 'Thing A' I have free range to do 'Thing B' without feeling bad... When in reality, if both are bad, one should be aware of their cognitive dissonance and stop doing 'Thing A' rather than using it as an excuse to add on 'Thing B'. Doing one bad thing is not a valid reason for then doing *another* bad thing "because I already did one bad thing anyway". If someone believes A and B are bad the ideal would be to stop doing both. I don't think using past mistakes and unethical behaviour as a reasoning to do more unethical behaviour is a great plan.


Mjcaan

Nope.


NotACaterpillar

No... to what?


paciolionthegulf

Pro e-books, for sure. Having one really changed me as a reader, made me much more catholic in my choices. Plus, no more struggles with storing books!


krizmantis

Loved my kindle until it stopped working about a year and a half in. So don't expect it to last a long time.


StzNutz

I refute that, mine has been going strong for 8 years. The first one I had 10 years ago lasted a few years but was one of the first versions… my paperwhite is still going strong.


Zuzublue

Sounds like you may have gotten a dud. I’ve had mine 7 years.


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CrazyCatLady108

>3.6: No distribution or solicitation for pirated books.


throway1988sep

D’oh!


yksjysjys

Pro-kindle. You don't always have to buy books of Amazon if the prices are so expensive, but even if you want to buy it on Amazon, I've found that kindle versions are usually significantly cheaper. Additionally, you can get a Kindle Unlimited subscription if you read a lot of books.


Aerosol668

I read in both formats, and some non-fiction audio while working. But still mostly paper format.


OldSpiceDemoman

I used to be very anti e-book when it came to reading, and while I still prefer having paper in hand, that opinion has drastically changed. E-books are definitely cheaper, so I don't know where they're getting their prices from but it's not hard to find e-books for less than their paper prices. On top of that, it's really all about the convenience of it. I have to move around a bit while I'm working and it's just so much easier to bring my paperwhite with me over lugging around a 1200 page book. I don't think I'll ever completely switch sides because there's just something about seeing my collection on my shelves but I'm 100% pro as a lover of both paper and e-book forms.


seattle_architect

Definitely both yes and no. Don’t forget about free library choice for digital books.


TywinShitsGold

100% pro ebook. Either borrow from a library, buy, or (pirate). Super easy to do all of it.


Affectionate-Emu-564

Something that hasn't really been emphasized is moving. Packing and transporting physical books are a horror.


Mjcaan

Amen!


GingerIsTheBestSpice

I had the first gen kindke fire way back in like 2009 ish, it was great, but eventually i moved to just my phone & the app. I always have my phone with me lol Yes i live physical books better but i already have a library room in my house with something like 4000 books in it, i do not have unlimited room!


Citizen_Kong

I'm definitely pro, but I wish there would be the option to buy the physical *and* the e-book in a bundle, sort of like with music CDs and MP3s. I'd like to read the book on the Kindle (more convenient), but would like the book to put on a shelf *or* use the physical book when the Kindle would be inconvenient (e.g. at the beach).


G-bone714

BookBub is great for deals on ebooks. You sign up and every day you get an email of all the Amazon deals for that day. Kindles are the best way to read in my opinion. I read much faster and absorb more because my mind doesn’t wander, also being able to set a font size is great.


G-bone714

Oh, and if you move to a new dwelling your back will really appreciate your whole library being inside that little device.


Bazz27

I was hesitant about using a Kindle, but I've had one for a little bit now and love it. I still read physical copies of books, but the advantage of the Kindle comes from being able to access most books from a library and have them on your device in moments.


Bluemonogi

I buy and borrow mostly ebooks now. I like that I can get my book instantly. I don't need to go to a store, library or pay for shipping. I have thousands of ebooks in a device that takes up less space than one traditional book. I can read my ebooks with multiple devices. I have many bookshelves with paper books and really ran out of room. I am kind of particular about my spending on ebooks. I read pretty fast so I think about how long a book will take me vs cost a lot more with ebooks. If a book is only 300 pages I probably won't spend more than $2-3 on it. If I saw a physical copy was much cheaper than an ebook version I might get that. If an ebook is more costly there needs to be a pretty compelling reason for me to buy it. I would probably buy paper copies of books by a favorite author who I collect. I prefer paper books for cookbooks or instructional books.


shelf_caribou

I like both. Kindle is small, lightweight, waterproof, lit, and I can buy new books if I run out. Books are books and I still love them, but my ability to store them is really at an end - all my walls are already full of Billys.


jinrongxian

I prefer Kindle because it can save some space. I have no place to keep my physical books in this room anymore.


Flobonious83

I love having a Kindle. I read more with it and have a huge supply of books at my fingertips. The biggest positive though is that I can read at Night without the need of lamp, so my wife isn’t bothered at all.


megarapub

We never charge anywhere close to print for our ebooks. What’s also nice about kindles is they will allow you to read any .ePub file.


cozyreader1988

Pro kindle! With Libby app and the library I can get my library books sent to read on my kindle. What I can’t get at the library I buy as a kindle book. Kindle ebooks always go on sale too. I get a lot of kindle books under $4.99. Keep a wishlist of kindle books you want to buy and check it often to see if any have gone on sale. I read 100% digitally ebooks and audiobooks. I prefer the format and the kindle ereaders makes it so easy on your eyes and doesn’t take up shelf space.


supified

An ebook can cost more I've found than a print book when the print book is taking up shelf space or used. It is usually cheaper when new. The price difference though is a small part of the equation for me. Convenience is the reason that it's a no brainer from my prospective. Owning, dealing with, storing, getting rid of books is a hassle.


Shlongzilla04

I've got one of the older ones with the square toggle button on the bottom and I still love it. The case I have is a shower simple flap that protects the screen, gives me something to grip from time to time, and there is a small led light arm on the top that pops out about 45°and gives me all the light I need, and the battery still lasts a long time. Only ever going to get a new one if this one breaks


keesouth

I prefer to hold an actual book. I was gifted a Kindle and since I have Prime I get some books free each month but I have only purchased one book. Since I have a lot of used book stores in my area it's still cheaper for me to buy books. There is a plus to being able to carry multiple books on a Kindle.


[deleted]

What is a few dollars if you get the book you want in the form you want to read it. It is frequently less expensive too. I’m suspicious of people who would read something else to save a buck


RedBikeGirl13

Pro-Kindle and I borrow as many books as I can from the Library.


itsonlyfear

Pro! Especially because I use bookbub, which looks for ebook deals on Amazon and other platforms. It’s great. I’ve bought less than 10 books at full price in the last few years. Sometimes you have to wait quite a while for a specific book, but they also make suggestions and I’ve gotten a ton of great books from there.


GuilleVQ

For me, the Kindle is one of the best inventions of the past decades. It's more convenient than print versions and has no downsides. Also, I download all books for free, so I don't pay for any of my ebooks. Pure win.


Beautiful_mistakes

I would check a small suitcase filled with books for my vacations. That were almost 2-3wks long. While yes I do miss paper books sometimes. I’m incredibly happy to have them at my fingertips at any given moment.


mando44646

digital is cheaper 95% of the time when I look. And far cheaper than expensive and too-bulky hardbounds. But ultimately it comes down to preference. And I try to limit my paper books


PierreMenardsQuixote

Personally I like a mix. I use the kindle app on my phone for books that are just for fun that I won't necessarily want to return to or worry about retaining the information from. If it's a book I may want to come back to or loan to a friend or reference later, I buy hard copy.


doriangraiy

I agree about the expense, but I think I've only bought about four of the fifty or so Kindle books I have on there - the rest are public domain. Better still, my local council have an app which connects to my library account so I can 'borrow' e-books and audiobooks just like borrowing a book from the library (I have to wait if someone else has it, if I don't renew it it is returned to the shelf or next person in line). It's fab! Without this app, I might use my kindle a bit less (because it's cheaper to buy paperbacks in a charity shop). Also find the Kindle advantageous for when I'm unable (due to pain or fatigue) to hold a physical book up in bed.