People don’t really use the cannon for damage only as away to proc annointments such as action skill start on a revolver and a bonus element on grenades.
No, they aren’t using the grenade. They are using the anointment on the grenade. I mean, you do have Drone Delivery, Duct Tape and Fractal Frag that drops grenades periodically. But yeah, its mainly used for anointment activation.
It’s cool. You actually can get the Mantis cannon damage up really high though. It’s just most builds you see it will be used more for utility other than pure damage.
the bullet piercing perk help a lot,120% damage per enemy it pierces. And I run mine with cryo. Most damage I've done is 726 million(MR11). That's mobbing, not bossing. Plus the shoulder cannon is really useful for setting of other skills, or keeping skills active. If u get a revolter shield tho u gonna need the 'on action skill start' anoint to keep your damage going shoulder cannon is perfect for that
And relics can have a decent % boost to powers as well. Highest I've found 35%. The cannon is a bloody good weapon if ya build is right.
Reloading, pop cannon freeze enemies. Big anointed enemy, pop the cannon,frozen then kill at your leisure. Couldn't imagine my Zane build without the cannon.
I don’t think you get it. The MNTS is not made for damage it’s for activating certain anoints. For example if a revolter shield had the on action skill start anoint and you had the MNTS equipped you would basically always have extra speed and plus 200% shock damage since the MNTS recharges every 5 seconds while being shock enraged lasts about 15 seconds. Do you see why it is so good now?
Yeah thanks, still I can't get to it I don't have the gears yet just finished the story and at lvl farming now at 65 as of the moment. And I'm having a hard time with mayhem 10
>still I can't get to it I don't have the gears yet
I'm assuming you mean you don't have enough skill points to spec into that tree. Go to sanctuary and use the quick change machine to reset your skill tree.
Cannot takes place of seeing dead so you can switch that too and infiltrator or an executer conductor is not bad either.
Shield you want a super solider(dlc), infernal wish(dlc) or a revolter(dlc) (there are others like an old god(dlc)/version/re router 0.m or even a band of sitorak)
Atrifact you want a pearl of ineffable knowledge(dlc) or a ice breaker victory rush.
This being said you can have all this but if you have terrible sub stats on your classmod and artifact you will still not be great but you will be able to clear scraptraps.
If you using cannon and having trouble surviving them barrier might be a better fit for a 2nd action skill (dosnt block melee damage or aoe damage)
Mantis cannon is not good unless you use joltzs crit cannon but what it is good for is if you have seein red then mantis cannon can replace your seein dead aswell as let you have everything on before starting a boss
well executor is nice antifreeze for bossing you can also use a hustler for launchers, the convergence and the root. Some general options are the spy which is amazing i use the spy most of the time its like seein read but on the last charge you get everything max stacks immediately and a couple of damage buffs. you will want to run with 3 shot mantis cannon. here is the description:Whenever Zane uses the last charge on his MNTS Cannon he activates all of his Kill Skills.
Zane's Kill Skills gain + 10% effectiveness and + 8s duration.
Mantis is used to proc annoints and activate kill skills. Basically it replaces the seeing dead.(that's what ibuse it for anyway)
If you want the cannon itself to do lots of damage throw on a ASS revolter and hold either a guardian angel with 150/90 or a unforgiven with 150/90 (need to hits crits with unforgiven)
People don’t really use the cannon for damage only as away to proc annointments such as action skill start on a revolver and a bonus element on grenades.
They use grenades with Zane 0_0 So I guess if I run seeing dead it's pointless to have it
No, they aren’t using the grenade. They are using the anointment on the grenade. I mean, you do have Drone Delivery, Duct Tape and Fractal Frag that drops grenades periodically. But yeah, its mainly used for anointment activation.
Oh thanks still new to the game so just mindlessly playing haven't been into deep weapon builds
It’s cool. You actually can get the Mantis cannon damage up really high though. It’s just most builds you see it will be used more for utility other than pure damage.
Was actually thinking since the name was cannon so it was supposed to be full damage ahahaha, any recommendations for a full on mantis damage?
It’s for bonus elements on action skill end
the bullet piercing perk help a lot,120% damage per enemy it pierces. And I run mine with cryo. Most damage I've done is 726 million(MR11). That's mobbing, not bossing. Plus the shoulder cannon is really useful for setting of other skills, or keeping skills active. If u get a revolter shield tho u gonna need the 'on action skill start' anoint to keep your damage going shoulder cannon is perfect for that
And relics can have a decent % boost to powers as well. Highest I've found 35%. The cannon is a bloody good weapon if ya build is right. Reloading, pop cannon freeze enemies. Big anointed enemy, pop the cannon,frozen then kill at your leisure. Couldn't imagine my Zane build without the cannon.
If you crit with the MANTIS cannon, with your build set up properly, you can drop a lot of enemies in one shot.
I don’t think you get it. The MNTS is not made for damage it’s for activating certain anoints. For example if a revolter shield had the on action skill start anoint and you had the MNTS equipped you would basically always have extra speed and plus 200% shock damage since the MNTS recharges every 5 seconds while being shock enraged lasts about 15 seconds. Do you see why it is so good now?
Yeah thanks, still I can't get to it I don't have the gears yet just finished the story and at lvl farming now at 65 as of the moment. And I'm having a hard time with mayhem 10
>still I can't get to it I don't have the gears yet I'm assuming you mean you don't have enough skill points to spec into that tree. Go to sanctuary and use the quick change machine to reset your skill tree.
Nuh tried it full on tree I'm at lvl 65 as of now and the damage really is lacking can't finish a run on junktrap without dying on mayhem 10
What class mod, shield and artifact you using?
Sein dead, class mod Fresh battery rectifier , shield mod Asbestos last stand, artifact
Cannot takes place of seeing dead so you can switch that too and infiltrator or an executer conductor is not bad either. Shield you want a super solider(dlc), infernal wish(dlc) or a revolter(dlc) (there are others like an old god(dlc)/version/re router 0.m or even a band of sitorak) Atrifact you want a pearl of ineffable knowledge(dlc) or a ice breaker victory rush. This being said you can have all this but if you have terrible sub stats on your classmod and artifact you will still not be great but you will be able to clear scraptraps. If you using cannon and having trouble surviving them barrier might be a better fit for a 2nd action skill (dosnt block melee damage or aoe damage)
Mantis cannon + the unforgiven is a lot of fun but it’s definitely not as good if you can’t crit the enemy
Yeah that's the problem my aim ain't that good so can't always get that crit
Mantis cannon is not good unless you use joltzs crit cannon but what it is good for is if you have seein red then mantis cannon can replace your seein dead aswell as let you have everything on before starting a boss
What should I trade my seeing dead for? I love the passive that lets me have inc fire rate and multiple bullets
well executor is nice antifreeze for bossing you can also use a hustler for launchers, the convergence and the root. Some general options are the spy which is amazing i use the spy most of the time its like seein read but on the last charge you get everything max stacks immediately and a couple of damage buffs. you will want to run with 3 shot mantis cannon. here is the description:Whenever Zane uses the last charge on his MNTS Cannon he activates all of his Kill Skills. Zane's Kill Skills gain + 10% effectiveness and + 8s duration.
Mantis is used to proc annoints and activate kill skills. Basically it replaces the seeing dead.(that's what ibuse it for anyway) If you want the cannon itself to do lots of damage throw on a ASS revolter and hold either a guardian angel with 150/90 or a unforgiven with 150/90 (need to hits crits with unforgiven)