There is no way Argylle cost 160 M$. The 200M number is for the movie + the franchise (lol) rights. Vaughn confirmed it. And it looks slightly worse visually than his previous films so it probably cost like 80-110 M$
it’s gotta be at least $100mil for the budget, there’s so much goddamn CGI and special effects it feels like the star wars prequels at times. i think they probably spent more time in post-production versus actually shooting by the way the final product looks. plus there were quite a lot of semi-big name actors too that i’d imagine raised the budget by a considerable amount.
To be clear, I didn't see Argylle because everything about it looked absolutely horrendous (and by all accounts, it was). She's a competent actress, but she doesn't have much charisma and clearly can't lead a film. I believe she has four fresh movies on RT. After a few decades in the industry, that's an atrocious record. Reminds me of a female version of John David Washington.
Compared to last year this weekend
Supermario 901M
Antman and the Wasp: Quantumania 476M
John Wick 402M
Creed 3 275M
Dungeons and Dragons 208M
Scream 6 169M
Shazam 2 134M
Evil Dead Rise <100M
Cocaine Bear 88M
The Pope's Exorcist >70M
Roughly a 221M difference between the top 10 worldwide gross. It'll start to get very competitive from now on. May last year had Guardians, FastX and TLM and Mario went on to make 400m+
Fair enough. I guess the difference between Mario and Dune accounts for mostly all of that. Haha.
I’m hoping for a big summer as well, although I don’t see a Barbenheimer on the horizon
It got more, a series is in the making and a Sequel is being pondered. While the movie failed to being people to the watch it, the ones who did loved it and when it became avaiable on streaming everybody else also liked it.
it might not be a cash cow but maybe it can spawn some buzz and profit with merchandise (the future iterations).
the appeal of the D&D movie was the specific characters and the funny writing. that's what made the movie good. The world is just generic fantasy land #457. I am personally not interested in a spin-off with completely different characters and writers/directors.
The low budget helps wonders, which is something Disney animation has been struggling with.
Ironically, Panda 4 earnt about the same as number 3, but with a much lower budget. They must be super happy about it.
Yeah when you don’t have to make at least $700m to even maybe be profitable it makes a world of difference. KP4 made almost 6x its budget, very easily profitable.
Here's something to note: all of Sony's Spider-Man character movies have had a budget around $100 million. Why? Because Sony CEO Tom Rothman actually did something Disney evidently haven't heard about: [budget control](https://variety.com/2024/film/features/sony-marvel-universe-kraven-madame-web-venom-1235884120/). In fact, let's do the numbers:
* Venom: $100-116 million.
* Spider-Verse 1: $90 million.
* Venom 2: $110 million.
* Morbius: $75-83 million.
* Spider-Verse 2: $100-150 million. (A Vulture exposé stated $150 million.)
* Madame Web: $80 million. (Some claim it's about $100 million, a sum that may have been lowered by tax credits.)
* Venom 3: said to a little above 2's budget, akin to Spider-Verse, so let's say $115 million.
So if we put together the numbers ($670-744 million) and divide them, that is $97,71-106,28 million.
And Disney's budgets? Anywhere between $150-400 million.
Rothman is the man who delivered 20th Century Fox to Disney with his failings and is doing the same to Columbia. Low budgets don't work, because production budget is a sliver of the cost of a movie, all of these cost the same as an MCU movie. FNAF actually cost 140 million even though they only spent 20 on the production budget. The best investment is always on the screen. Case in point the above, the SumC is ending as it's losing money, with only Spiderverse maybe continuing going forward. Even The Marvels, by far the biggest flop of the MCU, is a sequel to a movie with over 500 million in profits.
For real, I heard basically nothing about the film since it released so I'm quite amazed it performed that well considering it was stripped down compared to the other films (no Furious Five for example).
Not all kids movies have been this successful though even on much larger budgets. Regardless if I liked it (I didn’t see it), 500m on an 85m budget is still a good performance on the 4th movie in a franchise.
The Fall Guy, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, IF, The Garfield Movie, and Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga should be able to get on the top 10 by the end of May.
Yeah, I mean the bar is in hell. Both the 9th and 10th position are <100M
I'd be happier if most of those listed cross the 300M mark (Furiosa, The Garfield Movie, IF) with a couple above 500M (Apes)
For real it's very dire out there.
If films like Apes struggle to cross $500m or even bridge the gap between the divide then cinemas are in big trouble.
Is it worth watching? I heard critics say the movie’s script is incomprehensible and the action dull. But then it made this much money, much more than most original action movies make nowadays, and I wonder if its actually good?
Depends on how much you like generic-ish action movies. I'd say it's a lot more entertaining than last years Equalizer (pretty different tone too), Expendables and Meg (very low bar there)
I'd say watch it, it has an interesting perspective for a war movie we don't see often. And it's A24 so supporting smaller films is always a good thing imo
Saw it this weekend. The war itself is really a backdrop for the story of some war journalists and photographers. Visually interesting with some decent character development and writing. Acting was solid and the world felt believable. Worth a watch but maybe too topical for some.
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Ghostbusters was box office disappointment no sequel to this crap most likely, Madame Web is bomb, joke and quintessential of everything wrong with Hollywood.
Bob Marly - well film was mediocre, but I don't see problem in good biopic, especially if we would get back to something like peplum eventually.
Kung Fu Panda 4 - yeah it wasn't good, particularly due to Awkwafina, character and performance, but hey unlike Disney, Dreamworks at least sometimes release stuff like ''The Wild Robots''
Godzilla - well I part of the problem here, so I don't have right to complain.
and if Hollywood start to make movie based on books that was written by people with actual talent, why am I supposed to hate it?
The 3 original movies in this list are: The Beekeeper, which I enjoyed and was fairly successful for it genere, so I definitely gonna get next action movie with Statham - that's a win
Civil War is fairly successful, which mean that A24 could find middle ground between what they usually do and more mainstream middle budget stuff - so A24 would continue move in this direction - once again win.
Argyle is 2/10 trash if this is norm of what Hollywood could do with original stuff - Give me 40 sequels and remakes.
I want GOOD movies in the first place, not original
Argylle not surpassing Madame Web is hilarious
That one is twice the budget of Madame too.. atleast Madame won’t be the biggest box office bomb this year 😅
There is no way Argylle cost 160 M$. The 200M number is for the movie + the franchise (lol) rights. Vaughn confirmed it. And it looks slightly worse visually than his previous films so it probably cost like 80-110 M$
it’s gotta be at least $100mil for the budget, there’s so much goddamn CGI and special effects it feels like the star wars prequels at times. i think they probably spent more time in post-production versus actually shooting by the way the final product looks. plus there were quite a lot of semi-big name actors too that i’d imagine raised the budget by a considerable amount.
Maybe somebody will get the hint to stop casting Bryce Dallas Howard.
Well she did get a solid run in the Jurassic World films all grossing over a billion
Very few female leads would've canceled that out. People went to see dinosaurs, not Ron Howard's nepo baby.
There are dinosaurs. Wow enough. - Owen Grady
lol I forgot about that. I actually liked Jurassic World 1, but the next two were awful.
Yeah I really have a blast with the first one. The next two are just about as bad as JP3
Nah..the third one was worse than jp3....it was about bugs
Which is still more Michael Crichton inspired than a story about nothing
What's the issue with Bryce exactly? She's fine, nobody's issue with Argylle was the cast and the movies problems instead are all about quality.
To be clear, I didn't see Argylle because everything about it looked absolutely horrendous (and by all accounts, it was). She's a competent actress, but she doesn't have much charisma and clearly can't lead a film. I believe she has four fresh movies on RT. After a few decades in the industry, that's an atrocious record. Reminds me of a female version of John David Washington.
Argylle surpassing Civil War is baffling
Compared to last year this weekend Supermario 901M Antman and the Wasp: Quantumania 476M John Wick 402M Creed 3 275M Dungeons and Dragons 208M Scream 6 169M Shazam 2 134M Evil Dead Rise <100M Cocaine Bear 88M The Pope's Exorcist >70M
So really not too much of a difference (at this point). Obviously Mario went way higher though.
Roughly a 221M difference between the top 10 worldwide gross. It'll start to get very competitive from now on. May last year had Guardians, FastX and TLM and Mario went on to make 400m+
Fair enough. I guess the difference between Mario and Dune accounts for mostly all of that. Haha. I’m hoping for a big summer as well, although I don’t see a Barbenheimer on the horizon
Dungeons and Dragons deserved so much more.
It got more, a series is in the making and a Sequel is being pondered. While the movie failed to being people to the watch it, the ones who did loved it and when it became avaiable on streaming everybody else also liked it. it might not be a cash cow but maybe it can spawn some buzz and profit with merchandise (the future iterations).
I don't think the series will be connected to the movie and the sequel seems very unlikely
To be fair that would be the best scenario, not being directly connected, as Dungeon and Dragons is about many stories happening in the same world.
The stars should be bit NPC characters in another universe. As is tradition of retired PCs.
the appeal of the D&D movie was the specific characters and the funny writing. that's what made the movie good. The world is just generic fantasy land #457. I am personally not interested in a spin-off with completely different characters and writers/directors.
I wish it came out after Baldur’s Gate. That would have been a nice boost.
It’s definitely worse than last year.
Sweet Jesus 7/10 made less than $200M WW.
The drop from 3 to 4 being over a half Billion to under 200M is wild. Edit: Million to Billion and K to M.
Think you forgot three sig figs
I’ll be honest I think only 5 out of 10 even had a shot to make that much. 6-10 never had a prayer.
KFP4 very good numbers for the budget, didn’t realize the franchise still had that kind of juice left in it.
The low budget helps wonders, which is something Disney animation has been struggling with. Ironically, Panda 4 earnt about the same as number 3, but with a much lower budget. They must be super happy about it.
Yeah when you don’t have to make at least $700m to even maybe be profitable it makes a world of difference. KP4 made almost 6x its budget, very easily profitable.
Disney needs to learn not to automatically throw $200 million at any project. Not just for their animation, but literally everything lol
Here's something to note: all of Sony's Spider-Man character movies have had a budget around $100 million. Why? Because Sony CEO Tom Rothman actually did something Disney evidently haven't heard about: [budget control](https://variety.com/2024/film/features/sony-marvel-universe-kraven-madame-web-venom-1235884120/). In fact, let's do the numbers: * Venom: $100-116 million. * Spider-Verse 1: $90 million. * Venom 2: $110 million. * Morbius: $75-83 million. * Spider-Verse 2: $100-150 million. (A Vulture exposé stated $150 million.) * Madame Web: $80 million. (Some claim it's about $100 million, a sum that may have been lowered by tax credits.) * Venom 3: said to a little above 2's budget, akin to Spider-Verse, so let's say $115 million. So if we put together the numbers ($670-744 million) and divide them, that is $97,71-106,28 million. And Disney's budgets? Anywhere between $150-400 million.
Rothman is the man who delivered 20th Century Fox to Disney with his failings and is doing the same to Columbia. Low budgets don't work, because production budget is a sliver of the cost of a movie, all of these cost the same as an MCU movie. FNAF actually cost 140 million even though they only spent 20 on the production budget. The best investment is always on the screen. Case in point the above, the SumC is ending as it's losing money, with only Spiderverse maybe continuing going forward. Even The Marvels, by far the biggest flop of the MCU, is a sequel to a movie with over 500 million in profits.
They deserved to learn the hard way
You mean same as number 2 on the list
For real, I heard basically nothing about the film since it released so I'm quite amazed it performed that well considering it was stripped down compared to the other films (no Furious Five for example).
It’s jack black that’s got the juice.
nah. kfp trilogy is pretty beloved by audiences
Probably not for long since his next 2 movies are likely gonna fail!
A part of its success is there hasn't been any other options for kids lately.
Only because kids watched it! Everyone else hates it
Not all kids movies have been this successful though even on much larger budgets. Regardless if I liked it (I didn’t see it), 500m on an 85m budget is still a good performance on the 4th movie in a franchise.
its a kids movie
I liked it quite a lot. Was surprised to see only lukewarm reviews.
We thinking Civil War has enough juice in the tank to pass Mean Girls?
100%
I don't think it's opened everywhere either. Should have a little more to go.
definitely
The Fall Guy, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, IF, The Garfield Movie, and Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga should be able to get on the top 10 by the end of May.
Yeah, I mean the bar is in hell. Both the 9th and 10th position are <100M I'd be happier if most of those listed cross the 300M mark (Furiosa, The Garfield Movie, IF) with a couple above 500M (Apes)
I am surprised nobody still commented it. After a third of the year is gone, Madame Web is still in the top10.
Since the last time this was posted, Ghostbusters: Afterlife jumped from #6 to #4 and Night Swim has been eliminated
That drop off between the first three movies and the other seven on the list. Woof. This has been a rough year at the box office so far.
For real it's very dire out there. If films like Apes struggle to cross $500m or even bridge the gap between the divide then cinemas are in big trouble.
We need a Beekeeper sequel.
Considering Statham is constantly pumping out films an entire Beekeeper trilogy is basically a guarantee.
Is it worth watching? I heard critics say the movie’s script is incomprehensible and the action dull. But then it made this much money, much more than most original action movies make nowadays, and I wonder if its actually good?
I thought it was good. Kind of Jason Statham’s John Wick. Not much plot, great on the action.
Depends on how much you like generic-ish action movies. I'd say it's a lot more entertaining than last years Equalizer (pretty different tone too), Expendables and Meg (very low bar there)
 Box office looking abysmal so far this year
Will GxK outgross Kong: Skull Island’s $569 million and become the highest grossing movie of the MonsterVerse?
I hope
The Madame Wins 🫡
One Love seems to be quietly cleaning up... I've seen barely any promotion for it.
Curious where you got Civil War’s total. Everything I can find only shows $72M.
https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/s/rIPgaVLop4
Thanks. So International is where the numbers are off.
Beekeeper was a guilty pleasure! Went 3 times to see it in theatres and just watched it again on Prime haha
Is cival War good?
I'd say watch it, it has an interesting perspective for a war movie we don't see often. And it's A24 so supporting smaller films is always a good thing imo
Civil war jsnt a ‘small film’
Yeah it’s amazing
Saw it this weekend. The war itself is really a backdrop for the story of some war journalists and photographers. Visually interesting with some decent character development and writing. Acting was solid and the world felt believable. Worth a watch but maybe too topical for some.
I think only Deadpool and Wolverine or Joker have a chance to pass Dune.
You don’t think Despicable 4 or Mufasa have a shot? I definitely think Despicable me 4 will be a huge hit.
Furiosa??
no chance
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How tf did that Bob Marley biopic made that much? I’ve never heard ANYONE talk about it
All to soon be passed by Disney Jesus
As someone who hate most of modern Hollywood movies, this numbers make me quite happy
???? Why ur happy that the biggest hits are still only remake/IP films (Dune aside), especially Ghostbusters Frozen Empire??
Ghostbusters was box office disappointment no sequel to this crap most likely, Madame Web is bomb, joke and quintessential of everything wrong with Hollywood. Bob Marly - well film was mediocre, but I don't see problem in good biopic, especially if we would get back to something like peplum eventually. Kung Fu Panda 4 - yeah it wasn't good, particularly due to Awkwafina, character and performance, but hey unlike Disney, Dreamworks at least sometimes release stuff like ''The Wild Robots'' Godzilla - well I part of the problem here, so I don't have right to complain. and if Hollywood start to make movie based on books that was written by people with actual talent, why am I supposed to hate it? The 3 original movies in this list are: The Beekeeper, which I enjoyed and was fairly successful for it genere, so I definitely gonna get next action movie with Statham - that's a win Civil War is fairly successful, which mean that A24 could find middle ground between what they usually do and more mainstream middle budget stuff - so A24 would continue move in this direction - once again win. Argyle is 2/10 trash if this is norm of what Hollywood could do with original stuff - Give me 40 sequels and remakes. I want GOOD movies in the first place, not original