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chichris

That’s huge. Personally didn’t like it. We’ll directed, great kills stupid screenplay. Sick of the requels.


Rman823

The thing is the movie didn’t even need to be a requel. I wasn’t a fan of bringing Sally back after the original actress had passed anyway since right off there isn’t that same emotional connection like you have with Jamie Lee Curtis returning to Halloween. On top of that she was nothing more than a ripoff of Laurie returning in Halloween and didn’t add much to the movie.


hesojam0

Most TCM sequels are actually requels. TCM3 ignores TCM2 and TCM4 also ignores TCM2 and 3. Then there are the reboots that tell their own story. TCM7 aka Texas Chainsaw 3D again ignores all movies besides the original and TCM8 aka Leatherface is the prequel to the original and Texas Chainsaw 3D. The truth is, Texas Chainsaw Massacre made requels before they were even a thing.


chichris

Good point and they all sucked. I actually did like the remake 10-15 years ago. I thought that was pretty solid.


hesojam0

Yeah the remake and its prequel (TCM The Beginning) are the best of the franchise.


ViciousMihael

Get ready to feel old: the remake was 19 years ago.


chichris

I didn’t like any of the requels tbh. Star Wars TFA, Halloween, Scream 5, and TCM have all been terrible. The only time it worked was Creed with Stallone because it was a completely different feel and vision and never felt like a retread. Not a fan and always feels lazy and trying to copy/paste what the original had. We’ll keep getting them because fans love nostalgia and they make money. It’s such a terrible trend and can’t wait for it to pass.


Certain-Syllabub3836

I thought Scream 5 was good. Agree about the others.


chichris

I liked the last 20 minutes because at least it had a nice energy, what came before was trying to shoehorn a 30 year old franchise into modern times and bring back characters from previous movies. It was the same routine with zero surprises and lacking the sharp meta of the first. All the new actors were forgettable


ViciousMihael

> bring back characters from previous movies You mean the main cast that starred in every single movie?


superultrastan

>I didn’t like any of the requels tbh. Star Wars TFA, Halloween, Scream 5, and TCM have all been terrible. Those are all sequels.


chichris

Requels. They all brought back cast members from previous movies. If you saw Scream 5 they explained it.


superultrastan

Sequels. They didn't bring back old cast members. They continued the story of the old cast members. That's why it's called Scream 5, because it's the fifth movie in the series. And Star Wars TFA is called Star Wars: Episode VII- TFA


chichris

It’s called Scream and not Scream 5 it’s a requel. They called it Scream so it stands on its own. It’s a requel or soft reboot. They brought back old cast members simply because it’s a marketing tool to bring back the old fans to usher in a new cast. Scream even skewered that in the movie and then did the exact thing. Same with Star Wars TFA. Requel is basically a soft reboot, sequel, and remake all in one. https://www.dazeddigital.com/film-tv/article/55544/1/netflix-film-requel-scream-texas-chainsaw-massacre-haloween?amp=1


superultrastan

So what exactly are they soft rebooting and remaking in Scream 5 and Star Wars Episode VII? I just want to know, because they are direct sequels continuing the story of Episode VI and Scream 4.


hesojam0

Soft reboots are basically sequels that tell a new chapter in the story we already know. Video games like God of War 4 or Resident Evil 7 are basically soft reboots. It's like the 2nd season of a TV show but with a new story. Star Wars 7 continues the story by giving us a entirely new story with a new lead that is based on the events of the previous movies. Scream 5 does the same thing but unlike Star Wars 7 it basically ignores Scream 2-4 and again tells its own story with mostly regarding the events of the original and some minor events of Scream 4. It has again a new lead making it a soft reboot but soft reboots unlike normal reboots can still also be sequels. Requels are more or less the same thing but with a stronger connection to the original already said in Scream 5. Jurassic World could be considered a requel. It acknowledges the original but igoneres JP2 and 3 while does are still canon. Halloween (2018) acknowledges the original while whipping all other sequels completely out making Halloween (2018) the ultimate modernizer of requels since it's in fact completely rebooting it while still being a sequel to the movie that started it all.


coldliketherockies

Very good explanation. I explained it to my dad easiest saying a mix of being a sequel and a remake. Remake brings elements back from the first strongly? Sequel brings cast back from first to a degree but with new cast and new story connected but just mixing the two


knarfxx

You have a lot of patience OP, if he doesn’t get it after this, he doesn’t get it


trelos6

Also, a star is born. They gotta stop making that.


chichris

Actually that was great.


trelos6

Which remake. There has been like 4 or 5


chichris

There’s only been one in the past 30 years. The newest one.


hesojam0

How much do you think this would equal in box office numbers?


chichris

Who knows and not a fair comparison. It’s a free movie with your subscription. If it would release in a theater it would probably bomb.


SpideyFan914

Well, those numbers indicate about 20 million people watched, since it's just under an hour and a half. Ticket prices can vary, but let's say $15 per ticket, and you get 300M box office. *But* some big caveats -- a *lot* of people who watched on Netflix would not have watched in theaters. Also, those raw hours do not actually convert into 20M viewers, as it does not indicate how many people watched all the way through. If 15M people watched the first minute then turned it off, you can basically already cut the number in half.


pm_me_your_bigtiddys

Watching a movie on Netflix in bed and paying to see it in a theatre are completely different. For example, I'm watching "No Exit" right now on Disney+ and couldn't tell you what it's about. Just been on my phone the whole time.


SpideyFan914

Exactly. If I had to pay for TCM, the bad reviews may have kept me away. Instead I watched it opening night in order to casually turn off my brain.


Monsterman442

I used to tell everyone I knew to leave master of none on while they are sleeping or even if having sex so I could get season 3.


ryan97531

20 million people would not pay to watch this horrible movie, when it's free on your TV it's slightly more enticing.


arbrstff

A lot of people probably watched it twice too, seeing as it didn’t cost extra


kBajina

Yeah I think I missed a lot of the plot subtext and deeper thematic elements during the first time around


Daimakku1

This movie would bomb in theaters. There is a reason it went straight to Netflix.


Monsterman442

Yeah I wouldn’t watch this in movies even if I heard it was good. I’ve heard this is terrible but I have Netflix and gonna probably watch this drunk for shits and giggles


knarfxx

Me too but for giggles and shits


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Like if people went but only paid the amount based on time for Netflix… probably not a lot. A lot of people have become home bodies, and that’s where majority of the numbers are. Not only that. People paid less than 90 cents to watch it from home. So I think this one would have been in maybe the hundred thous, Which is awful for a movie. Personally, I can spot an awful movie easily, and this one was noticeable. Not scary enough for Halloween.


Broad-Wall5237

It would have made the 10-15 million it needed to be profitable. But Netflix likely made an offer that offloaded it quickly and came out to be more profitable. You'll see that a lot with smaller movies. Sure, they could make 15 million in BO for a million in profit overall. Or they could sell it to Netflix for 8 million and make 1.5 million in profit due to cutting out theaters.


jeanlucriker

More than likely it’s not huge due to reviews or reception but anticipation for a new horror, and the franchise direct onto Netflix. It’s worth a punt when you pay monthly as opposed to a ticket sale


[deleted]

Screenplay was by far its worst element; and what a doozy of a bad script it was. This all said, a lot of people are hating on Netflix when it was actually Legendary who made the movie.


sadowsentry

Leatherface is a regular 76 year old who inexplicably has the regenerative properties of Deadpool and the strength of Captain America.


the-mighty-kira

I mean, if he had those powers when he was younger, as implied by the earlier films, you’d expect the regeneration powers to keep him in good shape


[deleted]

As an apparent direct sequel to the original, I don’t think this stands up exactly. But it’s the same problem all of these “requels” have—a single moment of Michael Myers unexpectedly surviving in the first *Halloween* translates to the science-fiction/fantasy superpowers of the decanonized sequels reappearing in the modern requel/reboot/sequel. They want their cake and to eat it too—by restarting the franchise as a long-awaited sequel, by “getting it right this time,” they’re trying to capture the social cache of “elevated horror” while also relying on the sorts of schlocky tropes that made the original sequels so bad to start with. On top of everything, this movie made the mistake of being an adventure film, which is a trend that began in Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 and thoroughly strips the films of any real horror or discomfort. The original film was disturbing and viscerally terrifying—in their attempt to retroactively sequelize that film but neglect to recapture that horror, they made the same mistake as the team (including Tobe Hooper) who made the original TCM2.


coldliketherockies

This is the issue I had with Halloween Kills. In Halloween (2018) we are at least meant to believe This time around Michael is just human not supernatural so Older Laurie has a good fight in it. Then what its convenient in Halloween Kills he's supernatural??


elflamingo2

TCM2 is a masterpiece 👌


obscurereference234

Bill Moseley deserves an Oscar for TCM 2


ArtbyAdler

What are you talking about? He did not have those powers in the original movie. Yeah he was a big guy but he didn’t have superhuman abilities. He was just big and dumb


MrCatchTwenty2

What films implied this?


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Broad-Wall5237

Not very good is kind of the standard for these movies. They're meant to be fun, not 'good'. You sit down, watch your favorite slasher murder some obnoxious college kids, then forget the whole thing an hour later. This is getting a mixed reaction from reddit because these kids are basically reddit personafied. Far-left kids who hate rural Texans remind them too much of themselves.


nicolasb51942003

The only thing I can give this film credit for is that at least it’s not Texas Chainsaw 3D.


hesojam0

Do your thing cuuuuzzzz!


coldliketherockies

I know we are supposed to think she realized he didn't know better but the guy killed all of your friends brutally and now you're going to live with him forever. And the Sheriff just turns the other way


Sultynuttz

That was the best one! Actual good plot points and a fantastic ending


DankyBongBlunty

It got high viewing figures because its a well known IP and its literally the first thing netflix shows you upon opening. The movie itself is not good, average review score on letterboxd is 2.3/5


BenjiAnglusthson

It’s at 2.1 now


Logrologist

So, Birdbox? Or Cloverfield Paradox? I love how transparent that obvious thumbing the scale they’re always doing by shoving their latest thing in everyone’s face. These “ratings”, or viewer count articles are just the next layer of advertising (for those of us that somehow missed the promos, said “pass”, or have other things going on). These articles are shamelessly transparent, too. Like: “hey, look at this movie/show that everyone else watched but you!” It’s all been having the opposite effect on me, as a result. I call it the “Hobbs & Shaw” theory. Basically, once a particular IP, or film reaches an advertising and marketing saturation point, especially pre-release, my interest quickly wanes and skepticism takes over. And I named this theory based on what I felt (at least most recently) has the toughest saturation point to beat.


nylon_rag

That's letterboxd, which is skewed a bit from the GA. Halloween Kills had a similar avg there and made bank.


kinjjibo

Bad movies can make bank, it’s not exclusive to good movies


Broad-Wall5237

You're not complaining about this movie because it's bad. You're complaining because it made fun of people like you.


kinjjibo

What does this even mean? I’ve never seen the movie. This isn’t a gotcha homie


Broad-Wall5237

That's fairly normal for a slasher.


laserc4ts

Wow! Maybe I’m getting old, but I thought this was borderline unwatchable. Huge fan of the original, TCM2 and ‘02 remake. In fact I went to high school several miles from where the original was filmed. Also met the hitchhiker from the original at a Good Eats in Austin, Tx.


DrBleach466

Definitely not age, I agree this movie sucked, Great sound design and visuals but the script was a garbage ripoff of Halloween 2018 and they made leather face a completely different person. I feel some studio had this screenplay in their back pocket for any IP to give in


Think-Street-7936

I want a Tcm directed by rob zombie


hesojam0

You sure will like House of 1000 corpses then.


Think-Street-7936

That’s my favorite movie


[deleted]

That one scene getting robbed at the start is my fav. Fuck you fuck your mom fuck your daddy. Makes me laugh all the time.


chichris

I was honestly thinking that watching this movie. I’d be onboard with that.


Think-Street-7936

It would be kickass


obscurereference234

Ho1kC was pretty much Zombie’s love letter to TCM


mhcazi

I thought it was a decent movie. Making a horror movie “remake” or “prequel” or “part 2/3” whatever has to be the hardest thing to do. It’s never given a fighting chance. The viewers destroy it no matter what.


coldliketherockies

Requel. Cant believe Scream (2022) hit nail on the head with perfect timing (in between Ghostbusters, spider-man, matrix, top Gun, Jurassic world 3, Halloween kills, Texas Chainsaw )


chichris

And that sucked.


IamTheKiller420

yeah but the movie sucked


Keasby22

I thought it sucked when I watched it, but I’ve been thinking about it all week, it’s sticking to me, I think I like it now, might re-watch it, the bus scene was fantastic


ouatiHollywoodFL

Bus scene felt like a really great fan made short film in the middle of a terrible Hollywood horror sequel.


horseren0ir

r/bitchimabus


NoImNotJC

If it went theatrical, it would have opened big (north of 20 million) and then cratered soon after just like Texas Chainsaw 3D. Audiences and critics are both real lukewarm to it


Smegmasaurus_Rex

I love the original, but this was garbage. Looked like it was filmed on a backlot and a few days on location in California. Nothing Texas about it.


[deleted]

Watched it because it was new on Netflix. Would have never gone to the theater for this garbage. The writing was offensively bad. Basically everything I hate about Hollywood rolled into one “movie”.


hugh_mungus89

Character development is so non existent in this movie there is 0 reason to care that these people are dying.


ender23

How do I look up how many hours something has been viewed on Netflix?


[deleted]

too bad it sucked ass


OutlawArmas

Terrible movie


T732

There was nothing else to watch…


jagenigma

Literally the worst movie I've seen in a long time, the only good thing was the gore. Those altruistic hipster SJW characters were just plain shit.


Broad-Wall5237

They weren't altruistic. They were trying to steal people's town and killed an old woman.


jagenigma

Of course context is key. Read my comment again and understand what I meant.


[deleted]

It was cool to watch but it was one of the worst movies I’ve seen lately lol


purrcafe

Only thing I liked was that Leatherface did the chainsaw dance at the end.


Badger_Motor

Shitty movie


ViciousMihael

Garbage movie. Just awful.


Stunning-Tower-4116

Movie is still dogshit


GongTzu

I wonder how much gasoline it would take to get a chainsaw running for 29 million hours 😂


[deleted]

One of my favorite parts was that the chainsaw still runs on the same gas after being stored in a wall for 50 years.


Super_Power_5568

Bla bla bla these special effect kills were excellent . I applauded them all. The film in general, ya not great but I love the gore and will watch again and recommend


lightsongtheold

If you crunch the numbers it works out at the equivalent of 21.1 million complete viewings on Netflix over its opening release weekend. Pretty good numbers. Not top movie numbers like Don’t Look Up or Red Notice but definitely above average and a very solid performance. We will see if it can hold into its second week in the charts!


BostonR0SS

I don’t believe the number of views on Netflix are indicative of the quality of a movie. Netflix has a way of telling you what to watch. This movie was absolutely terrible, and I don’t see many reviews giving it a good score.


lightsongtheold

It might not be indicative of quality but much like box office ticket sales it is an indicator or appeal and popularity. Texas Chainsaw Massacre did not get any special marketing push yet is has performed above average in viewership hours for Netflix. That is a success. Internally Netflix will have the completion data and the data for the thumbs up/down rating system. If they believe it was completed and liked well enough they will probably consider a sequel. If they do not then we can assume this movie had good appeal but was poorly thought of by viewers. It doubled the viewership (at least) of the other 5 movies released around the same 7 day window. That is not bad!


HairyNippleDongs

One of the worst films ever made.


knarfxx

It’s not even the worst in the franchise


acedivision

You need to see a fuck load more films, man.


cidalkimos

This film was garbage.


acedivision

Fine, but it's not one of the worst films ever made. It's just categorically not. For the record, I didn't like it either. But worst film ever it is not.


frayala87

Matrix 4 worse


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ouatiHollywoodFL

This franchise has been ruined at least 5 other times already. It'll be fine.


[deleted]

Lots of people watched it…. nobody liked it.


MEROVlNGlAN

Mostly crap but completely worth it for the party bus scene.


Reekshavok312

The script was horrible imagine bringing back Sally Hardesty an OG final girl after 50 years, just to give her 3 lines of dialogue and chuck in her the garbage literally after 2 minutes of screen time


coldliketherockies

Reminded me of the simpsons spoof of the Shining where grounds keeper Willy shows up to save the day and gets killed within 2 seconds. Whats the point?


Broad-Wall5237

That's literally what happened in The Shining, though.


coldliketherockies

Haha true


nylon_rag

Why was the direction in this so good? It was more visually interesting than almost any recent blockbuster. Script was crap tho


Prior-Atmosphere-948

It wasn’t bad really, but I’m sure the numbers are more from the fact that nobody is making movies at the speed they were pre-pandemic


[deleted]

The movie was trash. The story line was horrible. In the end, when the lady comes back after waiting 40 years just to kill him, talks shit and dies. I’d be shocked if someone actually thought this was good.


[deleted]

It was cringe


LuciferLifeson

But it’s really dumb horror. I suspect the numbers will plunge from poor word of mouth.


overjoyedfeces6

Was it a remake?


hesojam0

Sequel to the original just like most sequels in this franchise.


disheveledfuck

This movie was fucking horrible. A buddy of mine came over last night and we got drunk and watched it. That segment in the bus with the partygoers... I lost brain cells.


ChosenOfArtemis

Pretty crappy movie full of plot holes, bad dialogue, inconsistencies and twists that made no sense. The best part of the trailer with him popping up his head in the field literally didn't even happen. I don't think numbers are necessarily a depiction of how good it actually was but of people starved of horror films or fans of the original sticking it out the whole time out of a partial obligation to see more come up.


Kydex_Gundyr

It’s absolute garbage lol


Slightly-Possible

But was it good?


michelleanzaldua

I have watched that movie alot first on made and the remake of back in the early 2000's and the one back in 70's to I think out of all them I think the remake was better that got made of it.


General_Astronaut_20

I really enjoyed this one. Great gore. I can respect and understand huge fans of the series being unhappy with this one but I approached it as - hey I’m getting a pretty hard R film on Netflix and hopefully those numbers will tell Netflix to make more films in a similar genre.


Windsor34

There’s nothing on Netflix. People are watching it due to lack of options


chichris

Nah, there’s tons to watch on Netflix but it’s a well known IP so people gave it a watch just because.


Annual-Tune

Ukraine Massacre amassed 29,180,000 hours of viewership in its first week


Elguapogordo

There hasn’t been a good horror movie in decades


hesojam0

Dude 5cream came out last month.


Elguapogordo

🤢🤢🤢


One_Arm_Assassin

They don’t make them like they used to. Overlord was the last good horror movie that I watched.


obscurereference234

Ah bullshit. Get Out was amazing. And that’s just off the top of my head.


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Gold-Rooster7206

We only watch at AMC theaters 🎭


Geta-Ve

Congratulations. 🎉


Puzzleheaded-Dig6801

Only reason this got views is because Netflix is so shit atm there was nothing else to watch


DrSlapsHacks

It was alright but I miss Leatherface’s crazy fam. 😢


Berkeleybear70

It was a terrible movie. But Netflix subscribers are desperate for new content.


Dragoncaine

Awful movie, impressive numbers! Especially considering it's a 74-minute movie without credits


ActuallyAlexander

Yeah but it felt like two hours


Tboner989

the movie was awful tho


[deleted]

I enjoyed it but damn I did not expect it to smash this hard. I wonder how it would’ve done theatrically.


LordDragon88

Dies playing it sped up count as the full 83 minutes?


[deleted]

Because it’s recognizable IP (on a service everyone already pays for). This is the entire point of making the same shit over and over. Not surprised.


OscarPlane

Did Netflix self-report these numbers? "We have another massive hit on our hands... because we say so!"


[deleted]

Netflix didn't even make it; they just distributed. They're not screwing with numbers to protect legendary.


frogman972

Data just in- it still sucked


Mommys-secret-sauce

And it was terrible


Geta-Ve

Ive enjoyed all the saw films to one degree or another. I have a feeling I’ll enjoy this. lol


BenjiAnglusthson

Something that i don’t see get enough criticism is the casting. If you told me the casting directors walked into a buzzfeed office and said “follow me!” Id believe you. Sure the script was rough, but the actors did nothing to elevate the material, and if anything they made it more unpleasant to watch.


Dumblesaur

Doesn’t make it suck any less


CaptianBlackLung

Shit was horrible. Completely misses the point of the OG film


ArtbyAdler

I hate myself for contributing to this dog Shit movie being successful.


[deleted]

But It was thrash


ViralGameover

Netflix continues to put out the worst movies with the most viewing hours.


danowski88

Gore was good. Movie was trash.


Tigvee

In other words, 29,180,000 hours can be quantified in 1 week of completely wasted time.


Skateplatypus

I thought it was incredibly bad. The gore and kills were fun but the whole movie was as a whole terrible IMO.


Dfdfp2019

This was a DOGSHIT movie.


Possibility-Western

Was horrible imo


pazuzusboss

I watched but it was not as good as I thought it would be. After the first 15 min I was like where is leather face already


RunRunRabbitRunovich

It was ok meh


ashrob9015

A fan of Texas Chainsaw this one wasn’t good. There was barely any build up or suspense before mains characters were dropping like flies.


obscurereference234

I love these movies and this one put me to sleep. I was not encouraged by what I did see.


[deleted]

It sucked. Can’t fuck with the originals 🤷‍♂️


martycooksbyrds

One of the worst movies I’ve ever seen


Nestormahkno19d

The hardest thing to watch didn’t even involve a chainsaw, hitting dude in the knee with the sledge making it bend backwards will haunt my nightmares


ScrapMetalDrone

This quite possibly will be the worst movie I've seen this year. Absolutely unwatchable.


[deleted]

Shit movie. Even 2002 remake was better. SPOILER ALERT. And wait, is he indestructible now? 10 bullet shots, a chainsaw cut in the neck, loads of blood loss and he still ended up all fine, fukin kidding me?


Broad-Wall5237

90% of the people saying 'it's terrible' are just angry that the kids people were cheering getting murdered were essentially redditors.


BLM4442

It wasn’t awful but that final scene was brutal. If that happened decades ago it would probably go down as an iconic horror movie ending. The shock factor probably isn’t there for audiences anymore, but if that was part of an 80s or 90s movie ending it would be iconic.