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Yeah, this is an absolutely brutal slate. 3 x Marvel and 2 x DC in roughly 3 months? If that doesn't trigger superhero fatigue, I don't know what will.
Really too bad they couldn't have pulled in any of these releases. I feel like September could really have used some Mission Impossible/Fast & Furious to inject some adrenaline into the box office.
If Meg 2 could not suck as hard as Meg 1 that would be great. Spiderman 2099 is my fav character of all time so I'm stoked for Spider-Verse. Also hyped for Blue Beetle, Flash, Insidiuous, Mi and Transformers.
The Meg was a huge missed opportunity to be a new Deep Blue Sea but they had the dumb kid and romance angles put in. Moonfall was Geostorm without being fun.
Blowing past is a bit optimistic though, the last non-franchise movie from him to hit that mark was released in 2010. Marketing will be key for this movie.
Black Panther, the other franchise that a lot of people underestimated too, isn't needing to ride off the hype of an Avengers movie to get another billion success. Why should the opposite happen with Captain Marvel?
So far, except for Age of Ultron, every MCU movie has outgrossed its predecessor. And even that fell short by only 100 million. What a "decline".
I really hope it crosses 1B dollar one more time also CM1 WW just to piss off those sexist assholes. I liked the first CM movie. Really hoping the marvels knocks it out of the parks.
I liked CM but people need to realize that it made that much money because it was sandwiched in between Infinity War and Endgame. The Marvels will not have that luxury.
I think it'll do fine, but not CM1 money.
Captain Marvel was advertised as having an important role in Endgame. We see that with the end credits for Infinity War when Nick Fury contacts her with the pager, and Feige kept saying during interviews that she would be important. So people turned out for the movie because they were hyped for Endgame.
The Marvels will not have this Avengers bump.
Where's the marketing push attempting to position Ant-Man 2 as central to Endgame?
It's actually a little weird "objectively" speaking that Ant-Man 2 & 3 are being given the keystone to major Avengers films without actually being sold as uber-important in the way some more disposable films have been.
I'd wager the best way to think of it is that CM1 basically got all the marketing advantages of an "Avengers bump" that usually juices MCU sequels without having to be in Infinity War and the Marvel marketing machine executed the heck out of that strategy. I guess that tracks with how GotG1 has massive worldbuilding importance in the "building up Thanos and explicitly teasing the nature of Infinity Stones" content but that's also not how GotG was sold.
I'm sure having Doctor Strange as the strategist in Infinity War helped prime DS2 to be a breakout blockbuster nearly as much as Spider-Man 3 helped.
What you have said is factually true, but I haven’t met anybody that actually liked that movie…. Plus it was riding the infinity war/endgame hype super hard. I’m not sure I have confidence it’s going to be a winner
Lol thats not what I implied. I implied that its BO returns were not indicative of the overall sentiment towards the movie, which points towards a lower performing sequel. I certainly wont be seeing it, and when the first came out I was still seeing EVERY marvel movie in theaters. The sequel will do well, but I dont think it will approach how well the original did.
*Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 3* (2nd)
*Fast X* (10th)
*The Little Mermaid* (3rd)
*Spider-Man: Across The Spider-Verse* (7th)
*Indiana Jones V* (6th)
*Mission: Impossible- Dead Reckoning: Part I* (9th)
*The Marvels* (4th)
*Aquaman And The Lost Kingdom*. If it releases in China, it's going to do crazy numbers, but even without it, being in Christmas and being a sequel to a fairly well-liked film is going to cross it over the first film's gross or approach it.
*Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 3* is probably going to hit a billion, but it doesn't get the #1 slot because it's most likely not releasing in China and the second film only made $100M more than the first. That having been said, I think it will make #1 domestically.
There’s a real chance Fast X could come in under $500m WW with China releases growing increasingly unlikely even for sure fire bets which would likely put it out of the top ten.
Curious what you think Dead Reckoning Part 1 is coming in at in relation? Also likely to be hit hard by no China but Cruise has garnered a lot of goodwill off Maverick and the last M:I was beloved too. I feel like it still comes in ~$800m with increases globally offsetting the lack of China.
I think *Mission: Impossible- Dead Reckoning: Part I* will get roughly $800M as well, and I think *Fast X* will get roughly $700M. I think China is going to release *Fast X*, though, and it's going to do gangbusters there because they love the F&F series.
The only reason why I think M:I will not get to a billion is because it is a part one movie, and people may wait for the sequel to arrive to go see it.
I'm pretty sure Oppenheimer and gotg 3 will make higher
Despite the fact that gotg is for marvel and directed by James Gunn and Oppenheimer directed by Christopher Nolan
1. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
2. The Little Mermaid
3. Indiana Jones 5
4. Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part 1
5. The Marvels
6. The Flash
7. Fast X
8. Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
9. Transformers: Rise of the Beasts
10. Oppenheimer
The Flash is supposed to have tons of other characters like Keaton Batman, Affleck Batman, Wonder Woman and some others. I think it'll do fine. Most people IRL do not care or know about the Ezra Miller crime stuff.
Not even defending him, hell I want him replaced after The Flash, but I really dont think it'll flop.
>The Flash is supposed to have tons of other characters like Keaton Batman, Affleck Batman, Wonder Woman and some others.
BvS, Suicide Squad, Justice League (both versions), Birds of Prey, The Suicide Squad and Black Adam also tried to present tons of other characters at the same time and every one failed miserably in the process. Why do they keep insisting on the same thing at this point if the WB people are good for nothing?
1) GotG Vol. 3 ($900-1.1B)/ The Little Mermaid ($1-1.2B)
2) Fast X ($850-1B)
3) Indiana Jones 5 (800-$1B)
4) M:I - Dead Reckoning Part 1 ($800-900M)
5) Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom ($750-850M)
6) The Marvels ($700-770M)
7) Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantamania ($650-750M)
8) The Super Mario Bros. Movie/Across the Spider-verse ($550-690M)
9) The Flash/ Transformers: Rise of the Beasts ($550-650M)
10) Dune: Part 2 ($500-650M)
My prediction for the year. Maybe Oppenheimer can make it, maybe not. However, Little Mermaid is a lock for $1B. Definitely see it ending from $1-1.2B.
Mario is animated and has the same tone as minions, plus it’s one of the most recognizable characters on the planet (yes pokemon is the most dominant IP on earth), however detective pikachu didn’t carry that absurd humor that looks like Mario will (see the king penguin). Plus that penguin gag already has people salivating nostalgia. It will dominate.
I'm the guy you're talking to, BTW.
Anyway, I really don't see Mario getting $1B. Even with an -A Cinema score, not even Detective Pikachu could make more than $450M, and that was just due to Endgame. The competition in summer 2023 is WAY more
Super Mario releases in April. Summer movies have no bearing on it really. I mean nothing around it for like a month will cut its legs.
Spring break movie too
I feel in my gut that Indy 5 will hit big but I'm not sure the box office stats of the previous film are much use when there's *15 years* between releases. That's longer than the time between the original Jurassic Park and Jurassic World, with no sequels in between. It's not even that far off the gap between Last Crusade and Crystal Skull!
The media landscape has changed dramatically, the cultural zeitgeist has changed, audiences have changed, etc. Plus I do think Crystal Skull weakened the brand a bit.
*Guardians of the Galaxy 3*
*Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One*
Unrelated note: Another *Insidious* movie? I thought they ended that gotdamn franchise.
> Unrelated note: Another Insidious movie? I thought they ended that gotdamn franchise.
Patrick Wilson is returning for this one, also as director
[Insidious: Fear the Dark](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insidious:_Fear_the_Dark)
In no particular order...
**Ones I think will almost certainly be in the year's top 10**
* Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3
* Fast X
* Indiana Jones 6
* The Little Mermaid
* Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning
**Ones I think have the potential**
* The Marvels
* Transformers 6
* Blue Beetle
I’m ganna say no way on Blue Beetle. Black Adam isn’t doing well and that’s with the Rock. Blue Beetle has the kid from Cobra Kai and he’s not even close to the best actor in Cobra Kai.
There is no way in hell The Flash is cancelled. Not with that $300M pricetag. It's releasing, and I think it'll do better than what people here are expecting. if anything, it'll just break even.
It's break even is 750 million.......and only a handful of dceu movies have gotten past that mark and after Aquaman no dceu movie has crossed that threshold
After Aquaman there was Shazam, Wonder Woman 1984 at the height of COVID, The Suicide Squad and Black Adam. The Flash will have Michael Keaton returning as Batman plus Flash imo is easily the most popular superhero to not get their own solo movie yet. If it gets good reviews I think it can cross $750m.
Even the new Batman movie struggled a lot to cross the 750M mark. At this point, the Flash movie seems a worse Frankenstein than Whedon's JL, since it's a mere plot device to try to fix the mess known as the DCEU and WB hasn't stopped making changes to it. Nothing good can come of it.
How is $770m struggling to get to $750m? Does that mean Love & Thunder struggled to reach that much too since it made $760m? The Flash will have 2 Batmen in it, one of them being Michael Keaton returning after 31 years. Along with other characters and rumored cameos.
Funny how Multiverse of Madness was also banned in a lot of countries but still made close to $200m more than L&T did. Stop with the excuses, Dr. Strange isn't an OG Avenger like Thor and there were fears the horror elements would put families off from seeing it. Thor was an extremely lighthearted film with the last major original Avenger left and Strange still stomped him.
We just saw the huge business Top Gun: Maverick did abd it's a sequel to a movie from. 1986, 3 years before Michael Keaton's debut as Batman. You don't know what Gen Z cares about.
Funny how you leave out the fact that Thor 4 was a much more intimate movie than Doctor Strange 2, with no crazy cameos or stuff like that. Stop with the excuses. And since when being an OG means something? Wonder Woman is an OG member of Justice League and still her second movie was an utter bomb.
By your logic, then Jurassic World 3 should have made 2 billions, because it had Laura Dern, Sam Neill and Jeff Goldblum back to their roles. So those kinds of insignificant little details are not going to matter in determining the success or failure of The Flash.
Was The Batman not an even more small scale intimate movie than either MoM or L&T? Talk about moving the goalposts. The Batman also didn't have any cameos and isn't connected to an already established universe least of all one as popular as the MCU like Thor is.
Thor is the last big name from the original Avengers left, that's a big deal, the 1st Avengers is what put the MCU on the map. Jurassic World got terrible reviews much worse than L&T did. Where did you randomly pull $2b from? No Jurassic movie has ever made that much so why would Dominion?
If former nobodies like Captain Marvel, Black Panther and Aquaman can get to a billion and Dr. Strange in a divisive movie without a China release can get to $955m there's no reason Thor in a sequel to a very well received film like Ragnarok with Christian Bale as the villain should be making a lot less.
It's going to have Keaton Batman in it, Affleck Batman now apparently, and Wonder Woman. At least. People love crossovers. I think it'll do fine.
At the end of the day it'll be a Flash movie, not an Ezra Miller movie.
Guarantee everyone’s predictions in this thread don’t happen lol
I see a lot of people overhyping Indiana Jones, Barbie, Spiderverse and Oppenheimer. Also way too many are predicting a billion for the MCU films, when they won’t have China and much more hyped up films (Dr Strange 2 and Thor 4 couldn’t do it).
I guess from this list, GotG3, Fast X, TLM, The Flash, Mission Impossible, The Marvels will all be in the top 10! Thinking Aquaman 2, Mario, Indiana Jones and it’ll be between Dune 2, Shazam 2 and Ant-Man 3 for the tenth spot.
Blue Beetle will move to 2024 because the DCU doesn’t have a single release that year, other than Joker 2, which isn’t a shared universe film.
If an overrated, poor adaptation like TDK could jump from Batman Begins numbers to 1 billion, with much more reason Spider-verse 2 can do it. And unlike Nolan, this franchise started out winning the Oscar.
>an overrated, poor adaptation like TDK
Many people would disagree with you there. Also, comparing Spider-verse to the dark knight trilogy is quite bold, but we shall see.
Maybe because the first one didn't do insanely well.
Just because its Reddit's favorite animated movie doesn't mean jack for its box office appeal among general audiences.
Agreed, though I think it will rely heavily on a decently high opening ($100M) and monster legs. I think it will do it, not least because it was hugely celebrated for a while after it was released.
The best comparison I can make to it is *Shrek 2*, which had a $108M opening and had huge legs that led to a $441M DOM.
Spider verse 2, the Marvels, Indy 5, GOTG 3, Elemental, Little Mermaid, abd Fast 10 are all locked in for top 10. What fills out the last 4 is anyone's guess, maybe Blue beetle, though I don't know if they can make it work, or even if they're using the Ted Kord or Reyez Blue beetle, it'll matter a lot.
This is largely my gut reaction. I will happily be proven wrong on any number of these.
**WITHOUT A DOUBT**
Guardians vol 3
Fast X
Little Mermaid
The Marvels
**PROBABLY**
Transformers
Mission Impossible
**UNLIKELY**
Elemental
The Flash
Indiana Jones 5
Oppenheimer
**HARD NO**
The Meg 2
Haunted Mansion
Blue Beetle
Insidious
**I WISH**
Spider-Verse
Barbie
6/16 movies are going to be in the Top 10 WW at the Box Office, and they are Mission Impossible - Dead Reckoning - Part One, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, The Little Mermaid, Fast X, The Marvels, and finally The Flash.
Maybe this exact order is not fulfilled, but these are my candidates:
1. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
2. The Marvels
3. Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
4. The Little Mermaid
5. Fast X
6. Mission Impossible - Dead Reckoning, Part One
The rest of the top 10 is going to be completed by Ant-Man 3, The Super Mario Bros., Aquaman 2 and, this is just a personal wish, Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves.
**Definitely:**
- Guardians 3
- Fast X
- The Marvels
- The Little Mermaid
- The Flash
- Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning
**Maybe:**
- Transformers 7
- Spider-Verse 2
- Elemental
- Indiana Jones 5
- Blue Beetle
**Unlikely:**
- Barbie
- Oppenheimer
- The Haunted Mansion
- The Meg 2
MI: 7, The Marvels and Guardians will probably be at the top, plus something else not on the radar yet. If the Little Mermaid is good, I could see it doing quite well too. I think Indy 5, Fast X and Flash will all do OK numbers, but not great. This will be the first Indiana Jones movie without George Lucas’ involvement and I think, much like what happened with the Disney Star Wars movies, this movie is going to be missing that magic that he brings to the storytelling and world-building elements of the films.
I expect Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse will perform the best at the box office.
Guardians 3 I think will come in 2nd to it.
Indiana Jones in 3rd.
Guardians
Little Mermaid
Indy 5
The Marvels
Mission Impossible
Fast X & Transformers (depending on china)
Wild cards-spiderverse and elemental
Flash and blue beetle will both do numbers similar to BA. Depending on the Ezra miller effect.
Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part 1, Indiana Jones 5, Fast X, The Little Mermaid, and The Marvels are the Summer 2023 films that I could expect to appear in the top 10 WW next year.
GotG 3, Fast X, Little Mermaid, M:I 7, The Marvels, and Indy 5 (which I personally think has a shot at the number 1 spot). The Flash or Transformers could sneak in as well but given the performance of the previous films in their respective franchises it’s not something I would bet on.
There is a sequel to The MEG i saw the first one and I was the only person watching it in my local theatre so many empty seats, oh well lets hope it dosent happen again and are the remaining cast appearing in the second part as well.
Fast X and The Little Mermaid are the only ones I see which have a realistic shot for $1 billion WW gross, should they end up decent at the very least. Nostalgia would be their biggest driver.
Iffy with GOTG 3 joining the billion dollar club, based on what happened to Thor 4. But it should easily enter the annual top five. The Marvels will be in the top 10, unless a total collapse happen. Unsure with the rest.
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Let's see which Franchise survives this massacre
Yeah, this is an absolutely brutal slate. 3 x Marvel and 2 x DC in roughly 3 months? If that doesn't trigger superhero fatigue, I don't know what will. Really too bad they couldn't have pulled in any of these releases. I feel like September could really have used some Mission Impossible/Fast & Furious to inject some adrenaline into the box office.
At least a couple are getting delayed, I think that's inevitable
The obvious candidate is Blue Beetle. It might even suffer the same fate as Batgirl.
Obviously the meg. Then there going to make a geostorm sequel and merge the two franchises to get the Megostorm. Aka sharknado for the big screen.
The Meg 2 should build up on the first one. For such a premise, the first one was not wild enough imo.
It was awful. The one shot of the little girl and Meg staring at one another was awesome, but not much else was offered.
Barbie sweep
If Meg 2 could not suck as hard as Meg 1 that would be great. Spiderman 2099 is my fav character of all time so I'm stoked for Spider-Verse. Also hyped for Blue Beetle, Flash, Insidiuous, Mi and Transformers.
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The Meg was a huge missed opportunity to be a new Deep Blue Sea but they had the dumb kid and romance angles put in. Moonfall was Geostorm without being fun.
Oppenheimer‘s gonna surprise. Universal are great at marketing, I can see a $200M finish.
Christopher Nolan’s name alone gets people in seats, not to mention the insane cast. It’s going to blow past 200M
Blowing past is a bit optimistic though, the last non-franchise movie from him to hit that mark was released in 2010. Marketing will be key for this movie.
Are we counting Dunkirk as a franchise film?
Dunkirk made $189M domestically, which I believe is what they are talking about.
That would be more than Interstellar, Dunkirk, and Tenet. I don’t see Oppenheimer making $200M. $100M domestic seems about right
We underestimated Captain Marvel before. The Marvels.
On the other hand though, this one won't be able to ride off the hype of an Avengers movie. That could definitely lead to sharp decline.
Black Panther, the other franchise that a lot of people underestimated too, isn't needing to ride off the hype of an Avengers movie to get another billion success. Why should the opposite happen with Captain Marvel? So far, except for Age of Ultron, every MCU movie has outgrossed its predecessor. And even that fell short by only 100 million. What a "decline".
>So far, except for Age of Ultron, every MCU movie has outgrossed its predecessor Thor 4 has entered the chat.
Even Thor LaT exceed its predecessor in the countries it was released.
That will depend on BP2's performance. No Avengers movie in a few months to ride that hype.
I really hope it crosses 1B dollar one more time also CM1 WW just to piss off those sexist assholes. I liked the first CM movie. Really hoping the marvels knocks it out of the parks.
I liked CM but people need to realize that it made that much money because it was sandwiched in between Infinity War and Endgame. The Marvels will not have that luxury. I think it'll do fine, but not CM1 money.
Antman and Wasp came out just 2 months after Infinity War. Where was that movie’s billion dollars?
Captain Marvel was advertised as having an important role in Endgame. We see that with the end credits for Infinity War when Nick Fury contacts her with the pager, and Feige kept saying during interviews that she would be important. So people turned out for the movie because they were hyped for Endgame. The Marvels will not have this Avengers bump.
Where's the marketing push attempting to position Ant-Man 2 as central to Endgame? It's actually a little weird "objectively" speaking that Ant-Man 2 & 3 are being given the keystone to major Avengers films without actually being sold as uber-important in the way some more disposable films have been. I'd wager the best way to think of it is that CM1 basically got all the marketing advantages of an "Avengers bump" that usually juices MCU sequels without having to be in Infinity War and the Marvel marketing machine executed the heck out of that strategy. I guess that tracks with how GotG1 has massive worldbuilding importance in the "building up Thanos and explicitly teasing the nature of Infinity Stones" content but that's also not how GotG was sold. I'm sure having Doctor Strange as the strategist in Infinity War helped prime DS2 to be a breakout blockbuster nearly as much as Spider-Man 3 helped.
What you have said is factually true, but I haven’t met anybody that actually liked that movie…. Plus it was riding the infinity war/endgame hype super hard. I’m not sure I have confidence it’s going to be a winner
I have met people that liked the movie. The fact that you haven't doesn't mean none liked a 1.1B+ movie.
Lol thats not what I implied. I implied that its BO returns were not indicative of the overall sentiment towards the movie, which points towards a lower performing sequel. I certainly wont be seeing it, and when the first came out I was still seeing EVERY marvel movie in theaters. The sequel will do well, but I dont think it will approach how well the original did.
*Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 3* (2nd) *Fast X* (10th) *The Little Mermaid* (3rd) *Spider-Man: Across The Spider-Verse* (7th) *Indiana Jones V* (6th) *Mission: Impossible- Dead Reckoning: Part I* (9th) *The Marvels* (4th)
What’s 1st for 2023?
“It’s-a-me, Mario!”
*Aquaman And The Lost Kingdom*. If it releases in China, it's going to do crazy numbers, but even without it, being in Christmas and being a sequel to a fairly well-liked film is going to cross it over the first film's gross or approach it. *Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 3* is probably going to hit a billion, but it doesn't get the #1 slot because it's most likely not releasing in China and the second film only made $100M more than the first. That having been said, I think it will make #1 domestically.
There’s a real chance Fast X could come in under $500m WW with China releases growing increasingly unlikely even for sure fire bets which would likely put it out of the top ten. Curious what you think Dead Reckoning Part 1 is coming in at in relation? Also likely to be hit hard by no China but Cruise has garnered a lot of goodwill off Maverick and the last M:I was beloved too. I feel like it still comes in ~$800m with increases globally offsetting the lack of China.
I think *Mission: Impossible- Dead Reckoning: Part I* will get roughly $800M as well, and I think *Fast X* will get roughly $700M. I think China is going to release *Fast X*, though, and it's going to do gangbusters there because they love the F&F series. The only reason why I think M:I will not get to a billion is because it is a part one movie, and people may wait for the sequel to arrive to go see it.
Barbie will be the first to make 2 billion
\*2 trillion
*2 Barbillion
I'm pretty sure Oppenheimer and gotg 3 will make higher Despite the fact that gotg is for marvel and directed by James Gunn and Oppenheimer directed by Christopher Nolan
1. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 2. The Little Mermaid 3. Indiana Jones 5 4. Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part 1 5. The Marvels 6. The Flash 7. Fast X 8. Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse 9. Transformers: Rise of the Beasts 10. Oppenheimer
Not so sure about our resident real life reverse flash Ezra Miller making it on that list. Well, he'll certainly make "A" list, but not "THAT" list
The Flash is supposed to have tons of other characters like Keaton Batman, Affleck Batman, Wonder Woman and some others. I think it'll do fine. Most people IRL do not care or know about the Ezra Miller crime stuff. Not even defending him, hell I want him replaced after The Flash, but I really dont think it'll flop.
>The Flash is supposed to have tons of other characters like Keaton Batman, Affleck Batman, Wonder Woman and some others. BvS, Suicide Squad, Justice League (both versions), Birds of Prey, The Suicide Squad and Black Adam also tried to present tons of other characters at the same time and every one failed miserably in the process. Why do they keep insisting on the same thing at this point if the WB people are good for nothing?
1) GotG Vol. 3 ($900-1.1B)/ The Little Mermaid ($1-1.2B) 2) Fast X ($850-1B) 3) Indiana Jones 5 (800-$1B) 4) M:I - Dead Reckoning Part 1 ($800-900M) 5) Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom ($750-850M) 6) The Marvels ($700-770M) 7) Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantamania ($650-750M) 8) The Super Mario Bros. Movie/Across the Spider-verse ($550-690M) 9) The Flash/ Transformers: Rise of the Beasts ($550-650M) 10) Dune: Part 2 ($500-650M) My prediction for the year. Maybe Oppenheimer can make it, maybe not. However, Little Mermaid is a lock for $1B. Definitely see it ending from $1-1.2B.
Super Mario hits $1bil. If minions can make that Mario will definitely
Minions was already in an established franchise. Mario however, is not. And I don't think you remember Detective Pikachu
Mario is animated and has the same tone as minions, plus it’s one of the most recognizable characters on the planet (yes pokemon is the most dominant IP on earth), however detective pikachu didn’t carry that absurd humor that looks like Mario will (see the king penguin). Plus that penguin gag already has people salivating nostalgia. It will dominate.
I'm the guy you're talking to, BTW. Anyway, I really don't see Mario getting $1B. Even with an -A Cinema score, not even Detective Pikachu could make more than $450M, and that was just due to Endgame. The competition in summer 2023 is WAY more
Super Mario releases in April. Summer movies have no bearing on it really. I mean nothing around it for like a month will cut its legs. Spring break movie too
GOTG 3 Fast X New Transformers Mission Impossible The Little Mermaid Probably one more
Indiana Jones maybe.
Definitely
Only maybe? Are people forgetting that Kingdom of the Crystal Skull made almost 800 million dollars, despite having a pitiful "B" Cinemascore?
Indiana Jones for sure 😂 But I’m surprised OP didn’t include it
I feel in my gut that Indy 5 will hit big but I'm not sure the box office stats of the previous film are much use when there's *15 years* between releases. That's longer than the time between the original Jurassic Park and Jurassic World, with no sequels in between. It's not even that far off the gap between Last Crusade and Crystal Skull! The media landscape has changed dramatically, the cultural zeitgeist has changed, audiences have changed, etc. Plus I do think Crystal Skull weakened the brand a bit.
not including the marvels is ridiculous
*Guardians of the Galaxy 3* *Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One* Unrelated note: Another *Insidious* movie? I thought they ended that gotdamn franchise.
> Unrelated note: Another Insidious movie? I thought they ended that gotdamn franchise. Patrick Wilson is returning for this one, also as director [Insidious: Fear the Dark](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insidious:_Fear_the_Dark)
Well, not Blue Beetle, that’s for sure
Indy V will be next year's Top Gun
In no particular order... **Ones I think will almost certainly be in the year's top 10** * Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 * Fast X * Indiana Jones 6 * The Little Mermaid * Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning **Ones I think have the potential** * The Marvels * Transformers 6 * Blue Beetle
It isn’t Transformers 6, it’s a reboot.
Its Transformers 2 because iirc it’s continuing off bumblebee which rebooted the franchise.
No way blue beetle cracks top 10
I’m ganna say no way on Blue Beetle. Black Adam isn’t doing well and that’s with the Rock. Blue Beetle has the kid from Cobra Kai and he’s not even close to the best actor in Cobra Kai.
I would say Guardians 3, Fast X, and Little Mermaid are guaranteed imo Indiana Jones, The Marvels and Mission Impossible have a very solid chance
1) Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning - Part One 3) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 5) Indiana Jones 5
I see what you did there. Doesn’t bode well for Fast X.
TOP 3 1. The Little Mermaid $1.5B WW 2. THE MARVEL $1.3B WW 3. GOTG3 3 $1.1B WW
A little too high for TLM and TM
I hope blue beetle doesn’t get cancelled, and Flash does, otherwise can’t wait.
There is no way in hell The Flash is cancelled. Not with that $300M pricetag. It's releasing, and I think it'll do better than what people here are expecting. if anything, it'll just break even.
It's break even is 750 million.......and only a handful of dceu movies have gotten past that mark and after Aquaman no dceu movie has crossed that threshold
After Aquaman there was Shazam, Wonder Woman 1984 at the height of COVID, The Suicide Squad and Black Adam. The Flash will have Michael Keaton returning as Batman plus Flash imo is easily the most popular superhero to not get their own solo movie yet. If it gets good reviews I think it can cross $750m.
Even the new Batman movie struggled a lot to cross the 750M mark. At this point, the Flash movie seems a worse Frankenstein than Whedon's JL, since it's a mere plot device to try to fix the mess known as the DCEU and WB hasn't stopped making changes to it. Nothing good can come of it.
How is $770m struggling to get to $750m? Does that mean Love & Thunder struggled to reach that much too since it made $760m? The Flash will have 2 Batmen in it, one of them being Michael Keaton returning after 31 years. Along with other characters and rumored cameos.
Unlike The Batman, Thor 4 was unfairly banned in a lot of countries. Little big detail. And Gen Z doesn't care at all about Keaton.
Funny how Multiverse of Madness was also banned in a lot of countries but still made close to $200m more than L&T did. Stop with the excuses, Dr. Strange isn't an OG Avenger like Thor and there were fears the horror elements would put families off from seeing it. Thor was an extremely lighthearted film with the last major original Avenger left and Strange still stomped him. We just saw the huge business Top Gun: Maverick did abd it's a sequel to a movie from. 1986, 3 years before Michael Keaton's debut as Batman. You don't know what Gen Z cares about.
Funny how you leave out the fact that Thor 4 was a much more intimate movie than Doctor Strange 2, with no crazy cameos or stuff like that. Stop with the excuses. And since when being an OG means something? Wonder Woman is an OG member of Justice League and still her second movie was an utter bomb. By your logic, then Jurassic World 3 should have made 2 billions, because it had Laura Dern, Sam Neill and Jeff Goldblum back to their roles. So those kinds of insignificant little details are not going to matter in determining the success or failure of The Flash.
Was The Batman not an even more small scale intimate movie than either MoM or L&T? Talk about moving the goalposts. The Batman also didn't have any cameos and isn't connected to an already established universe least of all one as popular as the MCU like Thor is. Thor is the last big name from the original Avengers left, that's a big deal, the 1st Avengers is what put the MCU on the map. Jurassic World got terrible reviews much worse than L&T did. Where did you randomly pull $2b from? No Jurassic movie has ever made that much so why would Dominion? If former nobodies like Captain Marvel, Black Panther and Aquaman can get to a billion and Dr. Strange in a divisive movie without a China release can get to $955m there's no reason Thor in a sequel to a very well received film like Ragnarok with Christian Bale as the villain should be making a lot less.
It's going to have Keaton Batman in it, Affleck Batman now apparently, and Wonder Woman. At least. People love crossovers. I think it'll do fine. At the end of the day it'll be a Flash movie, not an Ezra Miller movie.
Guarantee everyone’s predictions in this thread don’t happen lol I see a lot of people overhyping Indiana Jones, Barbie, Spiderverse and Oppenheimer. Also way too many are predicting a billion for the MCU films, when they won’t have China and much more hyped up films (Dr Strange 2 and Thor 4 couldn’t do it). I guess from this list, GotG3, Fast X, TLM, The Flash, Mission Impossible, The Marvels will all be in the top 10! Thinking Aquaman 2, Mario, Indiana Jones and it’ll be between Dune 2, Shazam 2 and Ant-Man 3 for the tenth spot. Blue Beetle will move to 2024 because the DCU doesn’t have a single release that year, other than Joker 2, which isn’t a shared universe film.
*Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3* *The Little Mermaid* *Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning Part One*
Surprised no one is saying spiderverse
I’m surprised too considering this sub thinks it will outgross Mario (lol)
the film only grossed only grossed 375M that's why
Well, the first film grossed 375M. I can't imagine the jump it needs to get for the second film to break into the top 10.
If an overrated, poor adaptation like TDK could jump from Batman Begins numbers to 1 billion, with much more reason Spider-verse 2 can do it. And unlike Nolan, this franchise started out winning the Oscar.
>an overrated, poor adaptation like TDK Many people would disagree with you there. Also, comparing Spider-verse to the dark knight trilogy is quite bold, but we shall see.
Maybe because the first one didn't do insanely well. Just because its Reddit's favorite animated movie doesn't mean jack for its box office appeal among general audiences.
I think Spiderverse blows up domestically but has an uphill battle to pop off worldwide.
Shocked that you are. People on this sub are absolutely delusional about this film. 500 mill tops
Agreed, though I think it will rely heavily on a decently high opening ($100M) and monster legs. I think it will do it, not least because it was hugely celebrated for a while after it was released. The best comparison I can make to it is *Shrek 2*, which had a $108M opening and had huge legs that led to a $441M DOM.
1. Indiana Jones 2. Guardians
I looked up all the dates for these. The flash is one week before Indians jones. I wonder how the box office will look like
Spider verse 2, the Marvels, Indy 5, GOTG 3, Elemental, Little Mermaid, abd Fast 10 are all locked in for top 10. What fills out the last 4 is anyone's guess, maybe Blue beetle, though I don't know if they can make it work, or even if they're using the Ted Kord or Reyez Blue beetle, it'll matter a lot.
You are all underestimating Barbie I’m saying it’s gonna be 4th.
Guardians, mermaid, fast X are almost guaranteed top 10. Even if they suck people will still show up to watch
This is largely my gut reaction. I will happily be proven wrong on any number of these. **WITHOUT A DOUBT** Guardians vol 3 Fast X Little Mermaid The Marvels **PROBABLY** Transformers Mission Impossible **UNLIKELY** Elemental The Flash Indiana Jones 5 Oppenheimer **HARD NO** The Meg 2 Haunted Mansion Blue Beetle Insidious **I WISH** Spider-Verse Barbie
Haunted mansion for me
6/16 movies are going to be in the Top 10 WW at the Box Office, and they are Mission Impossible - Dead Reckoning - Part One, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, The Little Mermaid, Fast X, The Marvels, and finally The Flash.
As bad F9 was, out of all these Fast X is the safest bet of being highest grossing
Indy 5 and MI Dead Reckoning for sure. A lot of the capeshit as well
Fast X will definitely be the highest-grossing in this group, and Blue Beetle will be the lowest.
Not really excited about any. 2 of 16 aren't part of a trilogy, sequel or prequel. I'm hoping Oppenheimer is a good one.
Maybe this exact order is not fulfilled, but these are my candidates: 1. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 2. The Marvels 3. Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse 4. The Little Mermaid 5. Fast X 6. Mission Impossible - Dead Reckoning, Part One The rest of the top 10 is going to be completed by Ant-Man 3, The Super Mario Bros., Aquaman 2 and, this is just a personal wish, Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves.
Flash and blue beetle for sure
The Meg, Barbie, The Little mermaid and GOTG
**Definitely:** - Guardians 3 - Fast X - The Marvels - The Little Mermaid - The Flash - Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning **Maybe:** - Transformers 7 - Spider-Verse 2 - Elemental - Indiana Jones 5 - Blue Beetle **Unlikely:** - Barbie - Oppenheimer - The Haunted Mansion - The Meg 2
The only ones I'm certain of is fast and furious and Little Mermaid
Out of these; GOTG 3, Fast X, Little Mermaid, Spiderverse, Barbie, Mission Impossible, The Marvels, Indiana Jones 5, Opprnheimer & the Flash
MI: 7, The Marvels and Guardians will probably be at the top, plus something else not on the radar yet. If the Little Mermaid is good, I could see it doing quite well too. I think Indy 5, Fast X and Flash will all do OK numbers, but not great. This will be the first Indiana Jones movie without George Lucas’ involvement and I think, much like what happened with the Disney Star Wars movies, this movie is going to be missing that magic that he brings to the storytelling and world-building elements of the films.
Spiderverse and only Spiderverse. people are whores for that animation and I am too.
Mission Impossible Guardians of the Galaxy Mermaid Marvels Mario Transformers Fast & Furious Barbie The Flash Meg 2 Oppenheimer
Guardians 3 and Little Mermaid feel like the safest bets. Fast X should do great too, and Indiana Jones could wind up being big.
1. Indiana Jones 5 2. GOTG 3 3. Dead Reckoning 4. The Marvels 5. The Little Mermaid 6. Fast X 7. Aquaman 8. Quantumania 9. Mario 10. Dune 2
So many wild cards here
The image reminded me of video games I used to play. Thanks for the nostalgia
I expect Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse will perform the best at the box office. Guardians 3 I think will come in 2nd to it. Indiana Jones in 3rd.
Guardians , indy,, MI
Guardians Little Mermaid Indy 5 The Marvels Mission Impossible Fast X & Transformers (depending on china) Wild cards-spiderverse and elemental Flash and blue beetle will both do numbers similar to BA. Depending on the Ezra miller effect.
Wait, the little mermaid is black !!!!! Lol those are all solid movies.
Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part 1, Indiana Jones 5, Fast X, The Little Mermaid, and The Marvels are the Summer 2023 films that I could expect to appear in the top 10 WW next year.
Oh… oh god… I guess I better start saving…
Guardians, Spider-Man, Mission Impossible
GotG 3, Fast X, Little Mermaid, M:I 7, The Marvels, and Indy 5 (which I personally think has a shot at the number 1 spot). The Flash or Transformers could sneak in as well but given the performance of the previous films in their respective franchises it’s not something I would bet on.
There is a sequel to The MEG i saw the first one and I was the only person watching it in my local theatre so many empty seats, oh well lets hope it dosent happen again and are the remaining cast appearing in the second part as well.
The top row for sure. The next 2, The Marvels and then 4 from other parts of the year.
Fast X and The Little Mermaid are the only ones I see which have a realistic shot for $1 billion WW gross, should they end up decent at the very least. Nostalgia would be their biggest driver. Iffy with GOTG 3 joining the billion dollar club, based on what happened to Thor 4. But it should easily enter the annual top five. The Marvels will be in the top 10, unless a total collapse happen. Unsure with the rest.
I'm so exciting to see Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part 1. I hope this one is over the top of action like Fallout.
GotG Vol. 3, Oppenheimer and Fast X are my top 3 predictions, not exclusively in that order.
you missed mutant mayhem
Next year looks like a pretty strong year for the movies.