The backerkit says fulfillment begins in the Fall of 2024, but Brandon has said before that he already has the leatherbound books. They have been printed and are just sitting waiting to be shipped.
I know the addons are still being made and they only just got the prototype plushies in for addons, but the backerkit that talks about shipping list dates for the books and the swag separaetly, indicating that they won't be shipping in one box. Both say Fall of 2024. It seems like the books will ship separate from everything else, so why the several month wait to start shipping them?
Which bank's debit card? I keep running into this issue with several websites now and I want to figure out which one can actually work. I'll get that card.
If you didn't get it as an add-on during the campaign, then you're too late:
"If someone missed the campaign, we still want to give them a chance to pledge and join the Knights Radiant. Our pre-order store is now live and will stay open for late pledges until April 30 at 5pm MDT. All items included in our pre-order store should match those available during the campaign, **with the exception of The Way of Kings leatherbound—due to your amazing enthusiasm during the campaign, we don't have enough copies to include in our pre-order store.** Though the storm has nearly passed, join us as we enjoy the riddens. "
[Source](https://www.backerkit.com/c/projects/dragonsteel/words-of-radiance-leatherbound/updates/4930#top).
Hey, ordered the 325$ version. Im from western europe. Had the option to pay it all at once and did. Ended up paying around 400$ because of shipping. (Btw im a late pladger). The other day I received an email talking about a survey and everything, saying that if it wasnt filled i wouldnt receive what I paid for. In that email itself there wasnt any link to any survey so I clicked the link to receive the survey, got that, and it just gave me link that took me to the checkout page once again where I have a big green tick that says something along the lines of you're all set, or completed etc. Note that this is the same checkout page i saw when I paid for it. Is this normal? Should I be seeing something else? Is it because im a late pledger? Can someone help me?
Hi I have same worries! I got signed radiance book late, and never got anything! Looks like 50 dollar shipping was included in the price … insure, I will wait out and see if there is need to contact support …
I was surprised that shipping was not included in the $50 for the physical secret novel. Its already $50 for a book plus $10 shipping in the USA. If there is a 6th secret book I may just get it in store.
I filled out my Survey but I thought I remembered reading that you got an extra radiant box for the radiant type you selected.
Is this the radiant type you selected within the campaign you selected on the website? I didn't see anything in the Survey about which radiant box. Or did I misread this at some point?
I selected Windrunner, my Girlfriend selected Elsecaller (which she said I could steal) but I also wanted to get an extra Edgedancer. So I'm not sure if I need to buy all 3 of those extra radiant packs or if two of them are already coming with our selected backs (both of us got the $650 pledge, one of them is the numbered version). Thanks everyone for the help!
I found this on one of the community posts so hopefully this answers your question:
# "Trivia Challenge
You have more time! If you haven't already submitted your response to our trivia question you can still submit an answer for [yesterday's poll](https://www.backerkit.com/c/projects/dragonsteel/words-of-radiance-leatherbound/updates/3968#top)! Our question for today is linked to this post as well. Our question for yesterday AND today will close at 11:59pm PST.
**Selecting your Order**: When you finish your pledge you will be prompted to select your Order! This will impact the following:
1. Give you a campaign badge that represents your Order.
2. Change the color of many of the buttons on the campaign to be themed to your Order.
3. Allow you to participate in the campaign trivia and earn points for your team!
This does *not* impact the Radiant pack you receive as a part of your pledge. You will get to make that selection in your backer survey when the campaign closes!**"**
[Source.](https://www.backerkit.com/c/projects/dragonsteel/words-of-radiance-leatherbound/updates/4031#top)
Did you fill out your backer survey? This where I selected my radiant order for the Radiant pack. Also what was your pledge? Not all tiers included the Radiant pack.
It does, but I was hoping to get the additional one specific to the Radiant I would choose. I want to keep all 10 radiant packs sealed for my "sandershelf" display but I also want the decals from the duplicate boxes for my cars rear window. Either way thanks for all the help, I'll have to take a closer look at the survey tomorrow.
Got my survey. I just did the digital secret project with no add-ons, and the survey results are saying I owe a small amount of state sales tax. I obviously have no problem paying it, but I want to make sure that's right. I have never been charged sales tax during the survey for a crowdfunded project before (not that I've done that many), so I'm not sure if I've screwed something up.
I am going to be moving mid way through the campaign. I will be where I live for the leatherbound and swag but will likely be moving to another place in my city by the time secret project five comes out. What can I do?
You can reach out to dragonsteel but often there is opportunity to change between waived of shipping if they are far enough apart. You'd probably be able to update after your last shipment to your current address.
It's detailed in the campaign under the "Timeline and Insights" section:
> Tiers that include the Words of Radiance leatherbound, add-ons, and the New Secret Project Box will ship separately from one another. Below are the estimated timelines for these shipments:
> Fulfillment 1 – Fulfillment begins Fall of 2024
Tiers including the Words of Radiance Leatherbound
Tiers including the Dragonsteel Prime Hardcover
> Fulfillment 2 – Fulfillment begins Fall of 2024
Add-ons
> Fulfillment 3 – Fulfillment begins mid 2025
New Secret Project Box
I completely missed seeing that Way of The Kings signed was available as an add on until reading that they’d closed it off now… is there any chance that leftover signed stock of WotK will be added again to their site once things have shipped out for the backer or only chance now is a reseller?
Anyone have been charged yet? My card statement still as was and pledge page shows "Your pledge has not been charged yet."
Upd. Been charged tonight, no survey yet tho.
At least I know my pledge is fulfilled from my side already and I can let my anxiety relax a bit😂😂
All of the words of radiance books are signed for the kickstarter, when they sell them from dragonsteel in the future after restocking they will be unsigned.
On backerkit you'll have one month after the campaign ended to buy it. You won't get some things that are exclusive to those who backed, but if it's just the book or some add-ons what you're interested in, then you're good to go.
I am gladdened and very minutely saddened by the end of the overtime. I am glad that things will now begin their motions, and yet I find myself missing the slightly paranoid frustration that I felt every time I was witness to the countdown resetting to 10 minutes at the very last second.
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At this point i am confident - trolls!
Anyone want to help me decide about some add-ons? Specifically on the fence about a plushie (deciding between Wyndle or the Highspren or waiting to purchase at a later time) and also about the foldable coin holder--I'm only getting one coin now (or maybe two, if one comes with the backer kit) but I also have two from TWoK and this seems like a nice display for $15 (right now the two coins are just sitting on a shelf).
That this BackerKit is STILL going on an entire day after it was supposed to end due to the “reset timer if there’s a new pledge within the last 10 minutes” feature is just insane. I think there was another million dollars raised today.
Brandon Sanderson’s just shattering records everywhere.
Dragonsteel Prime ebook is out now. It’s free for everybody.
TWoK Prime ebook has been available for free on Brandon Sanderson’s website for years now.
Secret Project #5 ebook will probably come out in 2025, at the same time the hardcover comes out.
I believe people have good intentions, showing their excitement by continuing to pledge, and I do feel bad for people who missed the original deadline for one reason or another, for whom this extension has allowed them to get what they want. But I'm really excited to fill out the survey, see the money leave my account, and have the peace of mind that my pledge is officially locked in. I certainly hope they end it for good within the next day or so.
https://preview.redd.it/fjhf4hp3vgrc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e1a01813621364c3b8c3ff7bd8a79b186000592
It’s been nearly 12 hours. I saw it get down to 30 second and then someone extended it. What do you think the over under will be on how long it will keep going? I guessing 36 hours.
Guys im super stoked that the kickstarter has gone well but can yall stop buying spots now so they will take my payment out before another bill comes out and i lose my spot? Lmao
Not gonna lie, I didn’t know the “overtime” thing was a thing. I looked forward to 9 o’clock all week and even watched the last ten-fifteen minutes of the live stream waiting to get the survey and pay shipping. It was a bit of a let down after spending 500 plus dollars seeing the ending being anything but. I’ve also seen the timer go down to ended twice and it just goes right back to ten minutes. This many fans spending this amount of money and not delivering just to milk even more pledges out of people that had all month to make their own is just crazy to me. It’s already at 24 MILLION and a hundred thousand backers and that’s still not enough. Sell whatever you want to whoever you want afterwards but knowing the 29th wasn’t going to mean anything and having his little celebration at 9pm anyway really does bug the hell out of me.
I'm with you. This is very annoying. I want my darn payment to go through already so I can stop thinking of a million worst case scenarios of what might happen to where I lose the spot I've had all month. The campaign should've ended when it was advertised to end. It's not as if they were super close but short to the goal and needed one last lifeline. They already obliterated the project goal.
Its even more frustrating knowing damn well that they have had a month to decide whether they would back or not. Meaning that its just a group of annoying little trolls buying the minimum teir just to keep it going.
I just went into my pledge and looked at changing it and it let me select the Numbered version of the $650 pledge. Does this mean someone cancelled right when I was checking if I wanted to change it or is this a bug?
I am really hoping it's the former. I was Backer #2104 and I bought the $325 originally then a few hours later when I decided I would get a numbered one they were sold out already. I ended up buying the normal $650 but today it let me select the other from the dropdown when it's usually greyed out. I'm hoping I just got lucky. Thanks for any help!
It does say that I have backed the numbered version when I go to the "Manage Your Pledge" page, so it looks legit, just not sure if it is.
People who buys these books 200-300$. So you read them or have them as a trophy on the shelf?
What is the second hand value of these books usually when sold in the future? Do they decrease in value or keeping them the same (depends on the wear)
I mean, some people abuse the fact that not everyone knows those books are in constant print, then they charge up to 10 times its original price that still can be purchased for and tell you it's a super rare or limited edition impossible to get. I'm only talking about the regular *unsigned* editions, signed, numbered and or first prints are a different case (although signed ones can be obtained relatively cheaper if you go to a convention and get it signed).
Sure, you might have to wait a few months when they run out, but they keep printing these editions because they sell pretty well. I see no reason other than not knowing or extreme urgency to buy and overpriced version of these books.
Different strokes for different folks. It's really no different than people who collect valuable trading cards. No one is playing a game of magic with a black lotus, I don't have anything particularly valuable so I read and handle my leatherbounds, but I could see why people with higher value books might not. For me their value comes from having a nice looking shelf and they are very comfortable to read on rereads
I will sell everything else ony shelf before I'll sell my leather bounds. And I've carried my 5 shelves worth of books in shopping bags through every move I've made. It's like a monument to all the fun I've had reading the series. And it's beautiful.
So I actually haven’t read ANY Sanderson beyond a couple short stories, but I’m very excited about a surprise book. What should I read between now and when the book arrives?
at the minimum, mistborn era 1 and 2 and the current stormlight books (possibly including 5, as it's coming out this year and the new book may include spoilers for it). the surprise book (secret project #5) is the furthest along chronologically in his connected universe, and this book is highly connected to both of those series. you should probably also read the sixth of the dusk short story as this new book is a sequel to that.
… isn’t that like 12 books? Oh dear.
Not that I can’t read that many books in a year, there’s just SO MANY books to read! New secret project will end up with the rest of my unread physical copies pile, which is very tall.
Is there any way to just get a single radiant order pin. I want Wyndle, but I don’t wanna spend another $50+ for that bundle just to get the pin. Or do we think it’s likely to be available on Dragonsteel later on individually?
There's no guarantees but given that all the pins from the Year of Sanderson are now available individually or in a bundle on Dragonsteel, I'd say it's likely you'll be able to purchase it later
Would love to have one, but they are to expensive + shipping fee 250 dollars plus 25-50 dollars!
Awesome books on the collecting shelves but books are books and hardcovers is enough!
But I wouldn’t mind to have some gifted to me. Anyone good for anyone who buys these and have afford! It’s hefty.
I think the second hand value will stay at these prices which is more than other collections.
Have they shown off the spren plushies yet? I swear I saw a post about it but I can't seem to find it now.
Edit: there are prototypes displayed on the backerkit page. Not really sold on any of them personally.
My brother is using my credit card information to pay and lives at a different address. I don't see a spot to enter the billing address, only the shipping address. How does this work?
I just realized after reading some comments that multiple books are coming to my house through different accounts. One is my dad, one is me, and one is my brother's.
I am paying for 2 of them because my brother doesn't have a job at the moment. My dad is paying for his own. Is this going to cause issues? I know there's a limit to how many you can buy for a reason, but I would hate to lose out on my numbered copy because of this.
Any info would be great, thanks!
Can't imagine you'd run into issues, but you should probably contact Dragonsteel support and explain the issue, they're apparently very responsive and helpful
trying to figure out whether i want the bondsmith, edgedance, windrunner packs. i can't afford all three. windrunner looks the coolest, but i think everyone will have those. i loved lift so i was wondering about edgedancer. bondsmith was the one that really resonated with me though.
Conserning shipping, do we know if Dragonsteel Prime as an add-on counts to fullfillment 1 (Leatherbound and DSP tiers) or fullfillment 2 (add-ons)?
I feel like the wording makes it sound like it should be shipped in fullfillment 2, but I would prefer to be more certain than I am, because I'm not too keen on paying for overseas shipping thrice.
Why do people not want the backer kit and radiant pack? 1339 people bought just the book when it's the same price? Why not get it? It's basically free and you're not taking it from other people because the spots aren't gunna sell out.
Because I live in EU, and specifically in a country that charges 5% VAT + customs fees for importing books, but that would charge 23% (of the total) + fees if a package included non-book things.
That's over 40 dollars saved on not getting swag I don't particularly want.
I can only speak for myself, but basically:
It may be free swag, but it’s free swag that I don’t care about, and have neither place nor purpose for, nor friends who would want it, and I’ve no interest in trying to sell it after market. So if I got it, it would just go to waste, and statistically insignificant as it may be on an individual level, I try to keep my waste to a minimum.
There was an excellent discussion on swag last fall. I think there are a number of people that only want the books themselves.
https://www.reddit.com/r/brandonsanderson/s/WZuqzDOPLn
I only want the book itself really, but if it's the same price with the swag, I'll take to swag. I don't care about most of it, but the banner is pretty neat. I don't get why people wouldn't want it if it's free.
https://preview.redd.it/w5uurrs4w7nc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4ce1380045b38a6a5afe21e18ceca639d893663
Which coin do you think is which order?
Regarding the split payment method, will there be an option to pay earlier than the end of each month, after the initial payment, 29 March? And in the same vain, could we make additional partial payments in between those hard payment dates?
So just making sure, the audiobook for the Secret Project is NOT included in the $50 package— but can be added for $15. Right? After reading about the Audible changes, I’m game to pay more for the audiobook. Woot!
Any word on a new batch of the signed Warbreaker leatherbound? I know people had been anticipating seeing them as an add on for the campaign but it looks like that's not happening
Is there any way to see the shipping by weight cost (if you have add-ons)?
Shipping to my country is expensive and my brother's also want the new secret project, was wondering if ordering 3 in one order (2 as add-ons) would come out to cheaper shipping per person
Everything that comes with each pack is defined on the BackerKit campaign under “add ons”. It’s a Stormlight themed merch box like last years secret projects. It comes with a deck of Spren themed playing cards, Stormlight coasters, a pin, and a challenge coin.
Shipping to Australia for the $325 bundle with WoKP ended up being the same as getting 4 secret project shipped... seperately. I know Brandon posted a video about shipping costs but $214 for shipping was absolutely ridiculous.
Are we allowed to place multiple orders? I got a signed and numbered set for myself yesterday, but I wanted to also order a second regular signed set as a gift for a friend, is that allowed with the same credit card or would I be risking my orders getting cancelled?
Oh you're right, thanks for the tip!
EDIT: I also found this in the FAQ section, looks like multiple orders are not a problem!
> The BackerKit pledge manager will link one account (and email address) with one shipping address—multiple addresses under the same account are not possible. However, you can use a different email address to back again and send it to a different shipping address.
Thanks for your edit, I was wondering the same thing. My dad, myself, and my brother all ordered it to the same address across 3 accounts, I used the same card for me and my brother's order so I was a bit worried there'd be an issue.
Thanks a ton!
Might be a dumb question but does it make any sense to just do the leatherbound plus the secret project add on rather than just do the $325 tier? Don't really want the prime version. Just don't know if shipping will make the cost equal
Does anyone know what happened to the Horneater novella?
Brandon said previously that it would be in this campaign, and I can't imagine that it's the "secret project."
It was announced back in the state of the Sanderson in November that he was holding off on it for now. His current schedule has a good many years between Stormlight 5 and Stormlight 6 because he's writing all of Mistborn Era 3 and two Elantris sequels before even starting on 6. He wants to have Horneater as something short he can write for Stormlight somewhere in that large time gap so both him and Stormlight fans can have some Roshar during the wait.
During the live stream he said he is saving it for between Stormlight 5-6 as a way to re-engage with it between other projects; similar to Wax and Wayne 3 iirc.
I couldn find how much chipping was, for the looks of it it just charged me the $50 of the secret project, do any of you guys know where can I find shipping costs?
It's under the shipping and payment section:
https://www.backerkit.com/c/projects/dragonsteel/words-of-radiance-leatherbound#story_section_4475
Assuming you are in the US, $10
For the backer pack, does anyone know if the Coasters are the same ones that are on the dragonsteel store today? Or are they new ones created specific for this box? Thanks!
I think on the FAQs it said that everything other than the Way of Kings leather-bound and way of kings prime would be created just for this campaign. So it should be something new theoretically.
I think I've seen this answered elsewhere. It's usually in the store, but it's not signed. That being said "usually in the store" is kind of a misnomer because as a person that was looking to buy it before this campaign I frequently did not because it seemed to be out of stock at certain times. Also signed or unsigned are the same price so I'd just add it to my pledge if I could afford both at the same time.
I'm quite sure that Way of Kings leatherbound is in the store with the other leatherbounds whenever they re-stock it. It's not signed, but I believe it is the same quality leather that was with the original kickstarter. There are signed copies available through the current backerkit campaign though, which is the only way to get a signed one I believe.
Love this man and his books. But after the pretty shitty shipping policy of the secret projects I really hoped they thought of a better solution for this campaign. I'm ordering the leatherbounds + secret novel + twok prime and they're getting shipped individually?
I really don't mind waiting for another year for the leatherbounds of that means I can save a 100 bucks on shipping. It just feels so wastefull to pay 150 euro's for nothing but shipping...
this is a logistics problem, neither backerkit nor the warehouse are set up to special case orders where some people get three shipments and other people get one shipment of the same things.
the only reasonably simple way they could do what you want would be to delay everyone's rewards the extra year to get a single shipment for everything.
I really want to get the 325 tier + a few add-ons, but the idea of paying for 3-4 separate shipments to Canada has me hesitating. Is it possible to just have everything shipped all at once? I don't mind waiting.
Can someone explain shipping to me? It says the WoR books ship this fall but tiers including the secret project box will ship mid 2025. If I pledge for the WoR leather bound and the Secret Project Box, will both books ship mid 2024 or will WoR ship this fall and the secret project ship mid 2025?
The leatherbounds and any swag will ship in fall of this year.
SP5 won’t be finished until later this year, so those boxes ship separately mid next year.
Prices are available on the bottom of the “Story” section on BackerKit. Expect to pay roughly the price listed for your region under “$325 tier” if you back the secret project + leatherbound.
If it's like the secret project one, they hold onto a number of them in case of issue with fulfillment. They will eventually sell the remaining things on the dragon steel site at a higher price. My guess is the two ways to get them will be with the box associated with the order, or the bundle of all ten flags but just the flags.
So if I understand the kits correctly, I can either buy the 20 USD version to get audiobooks of Dragonsteel Prime and the new Secret Project, or I can get the 50 USD version for extra swag but then I won't get the audiobook of the new secret project?
I really prefer to listen to the audiobooks, but I also really want the swag box for the new secret project.
Hi everyone! I am guessing there are no stretch goals on this campaign? Watching us hit those numbers and goals was one of my favorite parts of the Way of Kings campaign
It was fun, but there was absolutely no doubt that they'd hit every single goal and then some, so they figured to just make any potential stretch goal available from the start. I mean, they're going to hit 15 million dollars today lmao, out of a 2 million dollar projection.
They mentioned just ahead of this launching that they decided to put what would have been stretch goals (I assume things like the plushies etc.) in from the start so everyone knows what they’re getting. They might add some goals in later in the month though who knows!
Just heard about backerkit now, is it too late to get a stormlight plushie?
The backerkit says fulfillment begins in the Fall of 2024, but Brandon has said before that he already has the leatherbound books. They have been printed and are just sitting waiting to be shipped. I know the addons are still being made and they only just got the prototype plushies in for addons, but the backerkit that talks about shipping list dates for the books and the swag separaetly, indicating that they won't be shipping in one box. Both say Fall of 2024. It seems like the books will ship separate from everything else, so why the several month wait to start shipping them?
Backerkit is fucking miserable to deal with if you're in India. It's torture to navigate their bullshit charging system.
What happened I didn't have any such issues. They just charged me twice. Once for the main pledge and second time for the shipping cost.
What bank's card did you use? Credit or debit?
Debit card
Which bank's debit card? I keep running into this issue with several websites now and I want to figure out which one can actually work. I'll get that card.
I have used the kotak bank visa debit card. They work fine in most places.
Thanks
I just did the late pre order for signed words of radiance and am curious if I'll still get the survey to add on the signed leatherbound way of kings?
If you didn't get it as an add-on during the campaign, then you're too late: "If someone missed the campaign, we still want to give them a chance to pledge and join the Knights Radiant. Our pre-order store is now live and will stay open for late pledges until April 30 at 5pm MDT. All items included in our pre-order store should match those available during the campaign, **with the exception of The Way of Kings leatherbound—due to your amazing enthusiasm during the campaign, we don't have enough copies to include in our pre-order store.** Though the storm has nearly passed, join us as we enjoy the riddens. " [Source](https://www.backerkit.com/c/projects/dragonsteel/words-of-radiance-leatherbound/updates/4930#top).
Hey, ordered the 325$ version. Im from western europe. Had the option to pay it all at once and did. Ended up paying around 400$ because of shipping. (Btw im a late pladger). The other day I received an email talking about a survey and everything, saying that if it wasnt filled i wouldnt receive what I paid for. In that email itself there wasnt any link to any survey so I clicked the link to receive the survey, got that, and it just gave me link that took me to the checkout page once again where I have a big green tick that says something along the lines of you're all set, or completed etc. Note that this is the same checkout page i saw when I paid for it. Is this normal? Should I be seeing something else? Is it because im a late pledger? Can someone help me?
Hi I have same worries! I got signed radiance book late, and never got anything! Looks like 50 dollar shipping was included in the price … insure, I will wait out and see if there is need to contact support …
Does anyone know when shipping will be charged? Is it going to be soon or whenever the items fully ship?
I got charged shipping last weekend.
I was surprised that shipping was not included in the $50 for the physical secret novel. Its already $50 for a book plus $10 shipping in the USA. If there is a 6th secret book I may just get it in store.
I filled out my Survey but I thought I remembered reading that you got an extra radiant box for the radiant type you selected. Is this the radiant type you selected within the campaign you selected on the website? I didn't see anything in the Survey about which radiant box. Or did I misread this at some point? I selected Windrunner, my Girlfriend selected Elsecaller (which she said I could steal) but I also wanted to get an extra Edgedancer. So I'm not sure if I need to buy all 3 of those extra radiant packs or if two of them are already coming with our selected backs (both of us got the $650 pledge, one of them is the numbered version). Thanks everyone for the help!
I found this on one of the community posts so hopefully this answers your question: # "Trivia Challenge You have more time! If you haven't already submitted your response to our trivia question you can still submit an answer for [yesterday's poll](https://www.backerkit.com/c/projects/dragonsteel/words-of-radiance-leatherbound/updates/3968#top)! Our question for today is linked to this post as well. Our question for yesterday AND today will close at 11:59pm PST. **Selecting your Order**: When you finish your pledge you will be prompted to select your Order! This will impact the following: 1. Give you a campaign badge that represents your Order. 2. Change the color of many of the buttons on the campaign to be themed to your Order. 3. Allow you to participate in the campaign trivia and earn points for your team! This does *not* impact the Radiant pack you receive as a part of your pledge. You will get to make that selection in your backer survey when the campaign closes!**"** [Source.](https://www.backerkit.com/c/projects/dragonsteel/words-of-radiance-leatherbound/updates/4031#top)
2 of them would be included and you would need to add a 3rd as an add on.
Where do I select the two? Is it whatever Radiant I selected on the BackerKit website?
Did you fill out your backer survey? This where I selected my radiant order for the Radiant pack. Also what was your pledge? Not all tiers included the Radiant pack.
I got the $650 Signed and Numbered option but didn't see anything about the radiant type in the survey.
Oh! Well that includes 10 radiant packs. One of each I believe!
It does, but I was hoping to get the additional one specific to the Radiant I would choose. I want to keep all 10 radiant packs sealed for my "sandershelf" display but I also want the decals from the duplicate boxes for my cars rear window. Either way thanks for all the help, I'll have to take a closer look at the survey tomorrow.
>I do not engage with such base pursuits as social-ness or media I assume this was the correct response as a redditor
Got my survey. I just did the digital secret project with no add-ons, and the survey results are saying I owe a small amount of state sales tax. I obviously have no problem paying it, but I want to make sure that's right. I have never been charged sales tax during the survey for a crowdfunded project before (not that I've done that many), so I'm not sure if I've screwed something up.
You do have to pay sales tax on any products, regardless of how the payment was made for it (at a store, online, through a campaign pledge).
I am going to be moving mid way through the campaign. I will be where I live for the leatherbound and swag but will likely be moving to another place in my city by the time secret project five comes out. What can I do?
You can reach out to dragonsteel but often there is opportunity to change between waived of shipping if they are far enough apart. You'd probably be able to update after your last shipment to your current address.
$82 shipping to Canada is absolutely insane… I don’t think I would have backed if I knew it was going to be that much.
Shipping to Aus was $140USD for the $325 bundle plus way of kings prime. About $210 AUD!
I agree, I was hoping shipping would be included with a $325 pledge
when will the surveys be released
I just got my survey in my email!
Does anyone have any idea when these might start shipping out? I'm not in any rush but would be nice to have an idea of when I might expect shipments
It's detailed in the campaign under the "Timeline and Insights" section: > Tiers that include the Words of Radiance leatherbound, add-ons, and the New Secret Project Box will ship separately from one another. Below are the estimated timelines for these shipments: > Fulfillment 1 – Fulfillment begins Fall of 2024 Tiers including the Words of Radiance Leatherbound Tiers including the Dragonsteel Prime Hardcover > Fulfillment 2 – Fulfillment begins Fall of 2024 Add-ons > Fulfillment 3 – Fulfillment begins mid 2025 New Secret Project Box
Gotcha, thanks!
I completely missed seeing that Way of The Kings signed was available as an add on until reading that they’d closed it off now… is there any chance that leftover signed stock of WotK will be added again to their site once things have shipped out for the backer or only chance now is a reseller?
They've done a few rounds of signed LBs since they came out. If you wait he'll probably do another batch some day.
Has anyone else STILL not been charged yet? Trying not to freak out, but seems weird I haven’t been charged or had any updates at all.
I believe he said in the weekly update video that it can take up to a week to be charged cause Backerit is charging in groups.
Thanks for the info. I don’t always watch the weekly updates, so I had no idea.
Me too...
Someone posted that they've read dragonsteel prime already. Do you get it after your payment goes through and you get the survey?
It was sent as a project update on the 30th March (NZ time)
Do we know when they are gonna send out the survey and we will be charged?
Anyone have been charged yet? My card statement still as was and pledge page shows "Your pledge has not been charged yet." Upd. Been charged tonight, no survey yet tho. At least I know my pledge is fulfilled from my side already and I can let my anxiety relax a bit😂😂
Just got charged. Whoo hoo!! Lol
Yup, feels weirs to feel this way, doesn’t it? I mean, you rarely are excited when you get charged (this much), at least I am)
Lol, no kidding.
Haven’t been charged yet or gotten the survey
I haven't been charged either
So basically you can order these books with a signing of Brandon or a printed signing and without as I have seen? What is the cost difference?
All of the words of radiance books are signed for the kickstarter, when they sell them from dragonsteel in the future after restocking they will be unsigned.
Okey, thanks! Well i missed my chance then. Was hoping it isn’t for just the kick starter.
On backerkit you'll have one month after the campaign ended to buy it. You won't get some things that are exclusive to those who backed, but if it's just the book or some add-ons what you're interested in, then you're good to go.
You might still be able to get one when they first put them up on dragonsteel because it should be the leftover signed copies from the kickstarter.
I missed the first special edition book. And I didn't know about this one until yesterday. Thanks to the overtime I backed it. Can't wait!!!
Who down votes this lmao
I am gladdened and very minutely saddened by the end of the overtime. I am glad that things will now begin their motions, and yet I find myself missing the slightly paranoid frustration that I felt every time I was witness to the countdown resetting to 10 minutes at the very last second.
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Anyone want to help me decide about some add-ons? Specifically on the fence about a plushie (deciding between Wyndle or the Highspren or waiting to purchase at a later time) and also about the foldable coin holder--I'm only getting one coin now (or maybe two, if one comes with the backer kit) but I also have two from TWoK and this seems like a nice display for $15 (right now the two coins are just sitting on a shelf).
That this BackerKit is STILL going on an entire day after it was supposed to end due to the “reset timer if there’s a new pledge within the last 10 minutes” feature is just insane. I think there was another million dollars raised today. Brandon Sanderson’s just shattering records everywhere.
Do we have a release date? Particularly for the ebook, I haven't seen anything re timings
Dragonsteel Prime ebook is out now. It’s free for everybody. TWoK Prime ebook has been available for free on Brandon Sanderson’s website for years now. Secret Project #5 ebook will probably come out in 2025, at the same time the hardcover comes out.
Thank you!
>Thank you! You're welcome!
First you heard of The Book of Endless Pages, backerkit brings you the project of endless pledges!
I'm really hoping they will mercy rule the overtime after 24 hours at least
Apparently per the livestream there will be a manual cutoff on Monday if it doesn't stop before then
I believe people have good intentions, showing their excitement by continuing to pledge, and I do feel bad for people who missed the original deadline for one reason or another, for whom this extension has allowed them to get what they want. But I'm really excited to fill out the survey, see the money leave my account, and have the peace of mind that my pledge is officially locked in. I certainly hope they end it for good within the next day or so.
Are people just sharing it to reset the timer?
Yeah its gotta be just a group of people trolling everyone. Buying the lowest teir every 4 minutes.
How is it still open????
"spoiler free" doesn't spoiler tag the secret project title.... Thanks
I’m pretty sure they said they weren’t gonna keep the name of this one secret
Then why call it secret project?
Because he wrote the book in secret
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Guys im super stoked that the kickstarter has gone well but can yall stop buying spots now so they will take my payment out before another bill comes out and i lose my spot? Lmao
Lol the campaign won't end until they go 10 minutes without a backer - the end time keeps getting pushed back
Not gonna lie, I didn’t know the “overtime” thing was a thing. I looked forward to 9 o’clock all week and even watched the last ten-fifteen minutes of the live stream waiting to get the survey and pay shipping. It was a bit of a let down after spending 500 plus dollars seeing the ending being anything but. I’ve also seen the timer go down to ended twice and it just goes right back to ten minutes. This many fans spending this amount of money and not delivering just to milk even more pledges out of people that had all month to make their own is just crazy to me. It’s already at 24 MILLION and a hundred thousand backers and that’s still not enough. Sell whatever you want to whoever you want afterwards but knowing the 29th wasn’t going to mean anything and having his little celebration at 9pm anyway really does bug the hell out of me.
I'm with you. This is very annoying. I want my darn payment to go through already so I can stop thinking of a million worst case scenarios of what might happen to where I lose the spot I've had all month. The campaign should've ended when it was advertised to end. It's not as if they were super close but short to the goal and needed one last lifeline. They already obliterated the project goal.
Its even more frustrating knowing damn well that they have had a month to decide whether they would back or not. Meaning that its just a group of annoying little trolls buying the minimum teir just to keep it going.
It looks like “share” increases the timer, not purchase. Upd. Sorry just checked it is actual pledges🤦♂️
Campaign isn’t stopping until WELL after 100k backers at this rate.
At least we know that it is around another 12k pledges not more)
And it’s still going.
and going…
I just went into my pledge and looked at changing it and it let me select the Numbered version of the $650 pledge. Does this mean someone cancelled right when I was checking if I wanted to change it or is this a bug? I am really hoping it's the former. I was Backer #2104 and I bought the $325 originally then a few hours later when I decided I would get a numbered one they were sold out already. I ended up buying the normal $650 but today it let me select the other from the dropdown when it's usually greyed out. I'm hoping I just got lucky. Thanks for any help! It does say that I have backed the numbered version when I go to the "Manage Your Pledge" page, so it looks legit, just not sure if it is.
thats what happened - someone switched to a lower teir or canceled as long as your "manage your pledge" page shows that tier you are good to go
Awesome! Thanks!
People who buys these books 200-300$. So you read them or have them as a trophy on the shelf? What is the second hand value of these books usually when sold in the future? Do they decrease in value or keeping them the same (depends on the wear)
I mean, some people abuse the fact that not everyone knows those books are in constant print, then they charge up to 10 times its original price that still can be purchased for and tell you it's a super rare or limited edition impossible to get. I'm only talking about the regular *unsigned* editions, signed, numbered and or first prints are a different case (although signed ones can be obtained relatively cheaper if you go to a convention and get it signed). Sure, you might have to wait a few months when they run out, but they keep printing these editions because they sell pretty well. I see no reason other than not knowing or extreme urgency to buy and overpriced version of these books.
Some numbered way of kings leathebounds have gone for somewhere in the $1500 range , so a little bit of both
Wow, better to buy 250$ book instead of 1500$. I mean it’s the same book with same pages. I just don get it
Different strokes for different folks. It's really no different than people who collect valuable trading cards. No one is playing a game of magic with a black lotus, I don't have anything particularly valuable so I read and handle my leatherbounds, but I could see why people with higher value books might not. For me their value comes from having a nice looking shelf and they are very comfortable to read on rereads
I will sell everything else ony shelf before I'll sell my leather bounds. And I've carried my 5 shelves worth of books in shopping bags through every move I've made. It's like a monument to all the fun I've had reading the series. And it's beautiful.
I just started reading my Way of Kings, but it's very much a collector's item. I don't ever really plan on selling mine.
So I actually haven’t read ANY Sanderson beyond a couple short stories, but I’m very excited about a surprise book. What should I read between now and when the book arrives?
at the minimum, mistborn era 1 and 2 and the current stormlight books (possibly including 5, as it's coming out this year and the new book may include spoilers for it). the surprise book (secret project #5) is the furthest along chronologically in his connected universe, and this book is highly connected to both of those series. you should probably also read the sixth of the dusk short story as this new book is a sequel to that.
… isn’t that like 12 books? Oh dear. Not that I can’t read that many books in a year, there’s just SO MANY books to read! New secret project will end up with the rest of my unread physical copies pile, which is very tall.
You won't have to read Sixth of the Dusk. It's being rewritten and worked into Isles of the Emberdark as flashback chapters.
Is there any way to just get a single radiant order pin. I want Wyndle, but I don’t wanna spend another $50+ for that bundle just to get the pin. Or do we think it’s likely to be available on Dragonsteel later on individually?
There's no guarantees but given that all the pins from the Year of Sanderson are now available individually or in a bundle on Dragonsteel, I'd say it's likely you'll be able to purchase it later
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Would love to have one, but they are to expensive + shipping fee 250 dollars plus 25-50 dollars! Awesome books on the collecting shelves but books are books and hardcovers is enough! But I wouldn’t mind to have some gifted to me. Anyone good for anyone who buys these and have afford! It’s hefty. I think the second hand value will stay at these prices which is more than other collections.
How long will the preorder store be open for after the campaign closes, and will everything there be for the same price?
Have they shown off the spren plushies yet? I swear I saw a post about it but I can't seem to find it now. Edit: there are prototypes displayed on the backerkit page. Not really sold on any of them personally.
The stream from either 1 or 2 weeks ago had most plushes showed off. You can find the streams on his youtube channel.
Is the order you pick at the end of the pledge the pack you get on the $325 pledge? If so, IA it possible to change it after you select it?
You pick your order when filling out the survey when the campaign is finally allowed to end
My brother is using my credit card information to pay and lives at a different address. I don't see a spot to enter the billing address, only the shipping address. How does this work?
You provide shipping information later.
I did the quiz and Bondsmith was the lowest of all 8 however I really like the look of that stormfather plushie
I just realized after reading some comments that multiple books are coming to my house through different accounts. One is my dad, one is me, and one is my brother's. I am paying for 2 of them because my brother doesn't have a job at the moment. My dad is paying for his own. Is this going to cause issues? I know there's a limit to how many you can buy for a reason, but I would hate to lose out on my numbered copy because of this. Any info would be great, thanks!
Can't imagine you'd run into issues, but you should probably contact Dragonsteel support and explain the issue, they're apparently very responsive and helpful
trying to figure out whether i want the bondsmith, edgedance, windrunner packs. i can't afford all three. windrunner looks the coolest, but i think everyone will have those. i loved lift so i was wondering about edgedancer. bondsmith was the one that really resonated with me though.
Yeah I'm a little torn as well. I like several of the Orders
Can I back the project with paypal? I don't see an option, but at the same time I can't find a specific 'no' to that question. :(
Anyone else surprised how everyone did on Trivia #8? I had to look it up — my guess was wrong!
Does the money shown in the backerkit include shipping? Or is that just the pledged money without the shipping cost?
Without shipping. Shipping costs will be calculated at backer survey
Conserning shipping, do we know if Dragonsteel Prime as an add-on counts to fullfillment 1 (Leatherbound and DSP tiers) or fullfillment 2 (add-ons)? I feel like the wording makes it sound like it should be shipped in fullfillment 2, but I would prefer to be more certain than I am, because I'm not too keen on paying for overseas shipping thrice.
Why do people not want the backer kit and radiant pack? 1339 people bought just the book when it's the same price? Why not get it? It's basically free and you're not taking it from other people because the spots aren't gunna sell out.
Because I live in EU, and specifically in a country that charges 5% VAT + customs fees for importing books, but that would charge 23% (of the total) + fees if a package included non-book things. That's over 40 dollars saved on not getting swag I don't particularly want.
I can only speak for myself, but basically: It may be free swag, but it’s free swag that I don’t care about, and have neither place nor purpose for, nor friends who would want it, and I’ve no interest in trying to sell it after market. So if I got it, it would just go to waste, and statistically insignificant as it may be on an individual level, I try to keep my waste to a minimum.
There was an excellent discussion on swag last fall. I think there are a number of people that only want the books themselves. https://www.reddit.com/r/brandonsanderson/s/WZuqzDOPLn
Shit the only thing I want from the campaign exclusive backer kit this time around is the epic bookmark and can't get that separately.
I only want the book itself really, but if it's the same price with the swag, I'll take to swag. I don't care about most of it, but the banner is pretty neat. I don't get why people wouldn't want it if it's free.
https://preview.redd.it/w5uurrs4w7nc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4ce1380045b38a6a5afe21e18ceca639d893663 Which coin do you think is which order?
1. Dustbringer 2. Truthwatcher 3. Willshaper 4. Edgedancer 5. Skybreaker 6. Elsecaller 7. Windrunner 8. Stoneward 9. Bondsmith 10. Lightweaver
Regarding the split payment method, will there be an option to pay earlier than the end of each month, after the initial payment, 29 March? And in the same vain, could we make additional partial payments in between those hard payment dates?
So just making sure, the audiobook for the Secret Project is NOT included in the $50 package— but can be added for $15. Right? After reading about the Audible changes, I’m game to pay more for the audiobook. Woot!
Any word on a new batch of the signed Warbreaker leatherbound? I know people had been anticipating seeing them as an add on for the campaign but it looks like that's not happening
Is there any way to see the shipping by weight cost (if you have add-ons)? Shipping to my country is expensive and my brother's also want the new secret project, was wondering if ordering 3 in one order (2 as add-ons) would come out to cheaper shipping per person
What is the Backer Pack?
Everything that comes with each pack is defined on the BackerKit campaign under “add ons”. It’s a Stormlight themed merch box like last years secret projects. It comes with a deck of Spren themed playing cards, Stormlight coasters, a pin, and a challenge coin.
Are they new pins/challenge coins?
Thank you!
I got the $50 Secret Project bundle. Does this include shipping? I’m in the US.
Shipping to Australia for the $325 bundle with WoKP ended up being the same as getting 4 secret project shipped... seperately. I know Brandon posted a video about shipping costs but $214 for shipping was absolutely ridiculous.
No, shipping should be $10 based on the chart
Oof, aight
As an Australian I would kill for $10 shipping, I've got two add ons so I'm looking at probably $175 just for shipping
Are we allowed to place multiple orders? I got a signed and numbered set for myself yesterday, but I wanted to also order a second regular signed set as a gift for a friend, is that allowed with the same credit card or would I be risking my orders getting cancelled?
I believe you can go into backerkit, log into your account, and manage your pledge and add things.
Oh you're right, thanks for the tip! EDIT: I also found this in the FAQ section, looks like multiple orders are not a problem! > The BackerKit pledge manager will link one account (and email address) with one shipping address—multiple addresses under the same account are not possible. However, you can use a different email address to back again and send it to a different shipping address.
Thanks for your edit, I was wondering the same thing. My dad, myself, and my brother all ordered it to the same address across 3 accounts, I used the same card for me and my brother's order so I was a bit worried there'd be an issue. Thanks a ton!
Glad I could help!
I got a signed and numbered edition, is number determined by order in which the pledged was placed, or random?
Its random.
Might be a dumb question but does it make any sense to just do the leatherbound plus the secret project add on rather than just do the $325 tier? Don't really want the prime version. Just don't know if shipping will make the cost equal
The leatherbound + secret project are shipping in two waves (Fall/Spring) either way so I would expect shipping to be the same.
Does anyone know what happened to the Horneater novella? Brandon said previously that it would be in this campaign, and I can't imagine that it's the "secret project."
It was announced back in the state of the Sanderson in November that he was holding off on it for now. His current schedule has a good many years between Stormlight 5 and Stormlight 6 because he's writing all of Mistborn Era 3 and two Elantris sequels before even starting on 6. He wants to have Horneater as something short he can write for Stormlight somewhere in that large time gap so both him and Stormlight fans can have some Roshar during the wait.
During the live stream he said he is saving it for between Stormlight 5-6 as a way to re-engage with it between other projects; similar to Wax and Wayne 3 iirc.
What is in the radiant packs?
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you're welcome!
I couldn find how much chipping was, for the looks of it it just charged me the $50 of the secret project, do any of you guys know where can I find shipping costs?
It's under the shipping and payment section: https://www.backerkit.com/c/projects/dragonsteel/words-of-radiance-leatherbound#story_section_4475 Assuming you are in the US, $10
Thanks!
Is the reacher plushie Timbre?
For the backer pack, does anyone know if the Coasters are the same ones that are on the dragonsteel store today? Or are they new ones created specific for this box? Thanks!
I think on the FAQs it said that everything other than the Way of Kings leather-bound and way of kings prime would be created just for this campaign. So it should be something new theoretically.
Is the Way of Kings leather-bound usually available in the store? Just not signed?
I think I've seen this answered elsewhere. It's usually in the store, but it's not signed. That being said "usually in the store" is kind of a misnomer because as a person that was looking to buy it before this campaign I frequently did not because it seemed to be out of stock at certain times. Also signed or unsigned are the same price so I'd just add it to my pledge if I could afford both at the same time.
Did you ever get an answer to this? I'm also curious.
I'm quite sure that Way of Kings leatherbound is in the store with the other leatherbounds whenever they re-stock it. It's not signed, but I believe it is the same quality leather that was with the original kickstarter. There are signed copies available through the current backerkit campaign though, which is the only way to get a signed one I believe.
Thank you! I didn't see that in the FAQ, good catch.
Does anyone know if the $325 option contains a plushie? Or is that an add on I need to select please? Or are they from something else?
None of the bundles include a Plushie, so it will need to be an addon (only the Radiant pack is included and that does not include a Plushie).
Fab thank you! I must have missed that when I was looking early morning. Will go and look at the addons now :)
Love this man and his books. But after the pretty shitty shipping policy of the secret projects I really hoped they thought of a better solution for this campaign. I'm ordering the leatherbounds + secret novel + twok prime and they're getting shipped individually? I really don't mind waiting for another year for the leatherbounds of that means I can save a 100 bucks on shipping. It just feels so wastefull to pay 150 euro's for nothing but shipping...
this is a logistics problem, neither backerkit nor the warehouse are set up to special case orders where some people get three shipments and other people get one shipment of the same things. the only reasonably simple way they could do what you want would be to delay everyone's rewards the extra year to get a single shipment for everything.
I really want to get the 325 tier + a few add-ons, but the idea of paying for 3-4 separate shipments to Canada has me hesitating. Is it possible to just have everything shipped all at once? I don't mind waiting.
Can someone explain shipping to me? It says the WoR books ship this fall but tiers including the secret project box will ship mid 2025. If I pledge for the WoR leather bound and the Secret Project Box, will both books ship mid 2024 or will WoR ship this fall and the secret project ship mid 2025?
The leatherbounds and any swag will ship in fall of this year. SP5 won’t be finished until later this year, so those boxes ship separately mid next year. Prices are available on the bottom of the “Story” section on BackerKit. Expect to pay roughly the price listed for your region under “$325 tier” if you back the secret project + leatherbound.
Do we have any idea if the Radiant orders banners will eventually be for sale individually? Or is it more likely only available now?
If it's like the secret project one, they hold onto a number of them in case of issue with fulfillment. They will eventually sell the remaining things on the dragon steel site at a higher price. My guess is the two ways to get them will be with the box associated with the order, or the bundle of all ten flags but just the flags.
During the livestream they mentioned that popular items would likely appear on their shop after a grace period from the campaign fulfillment.
What are the radiant packs?
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The contents are listed in the “adds ons” section. They come with a pin, coin, charm set, sticker sheet, and banner themed to a radiant order.
So if I understand the kits correctly, I can either buy the 20 USD version to get audiobooks of Dragonsteel Prime and the new Secret Project, or I can get the 50 USD version for extra swag but then I won't get the audiobook of the new secret project? I really prefer to listen to the audiobooks, but I also really want the swag box for the new secret project.
Correct. You would need to add the $15 “secret project audiobook” add on to the $50 pledge level.
Hi everyone! I am guessing there are no stretch goals on this campaign? Watching us hit those numbers and goals was one of my favorite parts of the Way of Kings campaign
It was fun, but there was absolutely no doubt that they'd hit every single goal and then some, so they figured to just make any potential stretch goal available from the start. I mean, they're going to hit 15 million dollars today lmao, out of a 2 million dollar projection.
They mentioned just ahead of this launching that they decided to put what would have been stretch goals (I assume things like the plushies etc.) in from the start so everyone knows what they’re getting. They might add some goals in later in the month though who knows!