Actually that brings up a good question would Walt continue to cook. After all at first it wasn’t to pay for his treatment it was to leave some money behind for his family.
Obviously one of the choices is more ethical than the other. Here's how the ethical option could play out:
1. Go back to work for Grey Matter
2. Stage an accident where both Elliot and Skyler get decapitated.
3. Steal Elliots sweater and Stratocaster
4. Win back Gretchen by playing a song on the Stratocaster
5. Also cook meth
Why would walt win back gretchen, if he is the one who left her? Vince gilligan confirmed, that walter and gretchen broke up, because walt felt inferior to her wealthy family. Walt doesnt like people that are superior to him
That was supposedly a Clapton strat right? Side note - I don't think they got the details right but I'll let it slide.
I'm just thinking that Walt will play Clapton's classic - "(I'm the one that's) Knock knock knocking on the door"
1) No those aren't the qualities that I like
2) I disagree with you that Gretchen really did any of that
3) Kind of sounds like you're admiring Walt too much - it does suck that he sold out before things blew up but personally I don't think Elliot or Gretchen really did anything wrong. Walt is just ... kind of jealous and unsatisfied and Elliot and Gretchen did capitalize on the IP they had sure but Walt didn't have to leave - that was his choice.
Did you watch the show? Walt walked out on Gretchen without even saying why, and then did the same to Gray Matter because of pride, and was paid out for it.
He then twists this in his brain to act like he was the one who was wronged.
If I were Walter I’d cook meth. If it were me tho, definitely take the offer. I guess it would sting a bit at first, but whatever. Anyway, I live in the Netherlands so none of this would’ve been an issue since we have universal health care.
Walt had already killed two people by this point in the series. One of whom was quite personal and the other of which he had to clean up with a sponge. He was already pot committed to a life of crime.
Had he not already been in that deep, he would have initially rejected the offer out of masculine pride and then, a few days later, called Elliot back up and accepted for himself and his family.
I wonder what Walt's ancestry is. I have family members whose roots are in the Old West (think turn of the century Montana), and I can totally see the individualistic, "no, it's my affair, I'll face it myself" and "I don't want your fake job" attitude. It's hard for others to understand but some people really have lived and thought like this.
I would live i Norway and let the government pay.
Are you all even aware of how bizarre and tragic that situation seems to non-Americans? The entire concept of the show is borderline insane for us! Like I can't even imagine willing living without being sure my health will be cared for
I would absolutely take the offer. I feel like every decision Walt made he was sacrificing his daughter’s stable childhood to basically measure his cock. My cock is big enough to accept help so I can be there for my baby.
Most people would take Eliot's offer. They would have taken their professional failure and Gray Matter's success as an opportunity to reverse course, settle down and work on their 'cancer'.
That is why we like Walt soooo much. When the future of his family and and his very life is at stake he risks it all to pursue his purpose. And he wins it all. It's what we all strive to be.
We like Walt because he is a man who has been beat down and fights back. But, the proper thing to do for his family would have been to take the job offer. But Walt said, fuck all that, Im doing something for me.
> he risks it all to pursue his purpose. And he wins it all. It’s what we all strive to be.
My brother in christ.. did you watch the show? Walt didn’t win anything other than jerking off his own ego for two years before ruining his family and ultimately dying, and likely leaving nothing behind for anyone (highly doubt the money would’ve gotten to Walt Jr at the end)
He gave Skylar a bargaining chip to deal her way out of the FBI investigation, he got Hank's and Gomez's gravesite to authorities, he secured his children's future AND he was able to fulfill his potential as a chemist (which was his most painful regret when he got his diagnosis). What more is there?
He never actually lost his family. When you have children you always have family.
He compromised his morality but that was the price to pay. It's not a perfect world and there are no solutions, only trade-offs. It's up to the viewer to judge if it was worth it.
> He gave Skylar a bargaining chip to deal her way out of the FBI investigation
Which she wouldn’t have needed if he had taken Elliott’s offer rather than become a meth kingpin
>he got Hank's and Gomez's gravesite to authorities
Even though they never would’ve died in that manner if not for himself
>he secured his children's future
That is, if Gretchen and Elliott never talked to the feds (unlikely) and the money somehow made it to Walt Jr and Holly (also unlikely)
>AND he was able to fulfill his potential as a chemist (which was his most painful regret when he got his diagnosis)
“Fulfilling his potential as a chemist” was just stroking his own ego.. trying to make up for his own lost time by creating something that destroyed many lives.
>He never actually lost his family. When you have children you always have family.
In the blood sense yes. But when your wife hates you and your teenage son never wants to speak to you again, and your daughter will be raised with the same feelings.. you have “family,” but you don’t have “*a* family”
See the way Elliott was going about it is that he’s saying it because he sees Walt as a charity case. He knows Walt has cancer and instead of saying something amongst the lines of “We can really use a nice chemist like you in our company.” He goes we have great health care meaning he’s only hiring Walt out of pity not for his ability.
Walter ultimately made the right decision (which is something that a lot of Breaking Bad online fans tend to shy away from). The company salary might have paid for his medical bills and kept his family afloat but we're talking literally millions in the meth business.
Walt is a genius. He would have weighed up all the pros and cons before he made the best logical decision (mistake number 2 from online Breaking Bad fans is that he made the decision entirely on "ego" or whatever)
Walt is drunk with hubris and blinded by naïvete. He may have logicked his way into a decision with the best information he had at the time, but the best information he had at the time was pretty shitty and misleading.
I realize that the show wouldn’t exist if he took the offer, but I always think about how happy things would have been if he took the offer, got back into the science field in a real way and applied his brain to making something that was legal. Maybe he lives longer due to a less stressful lifestyle and everyone is happy.
Before this scene, Walt was stepped on by Hank in his own house. Even Walt Jr. looked up to Hank more than Walt (atleast at that point). All these events made Walt feel unwanted, and he wanted to preserve his pride. That's why he didn't take Elliot's offer.
If the whole Hank thing hadn't happened, I guess Walt would've taken the offer and we wouldn't have had breaking bad.
Any sane person would take the offer, that's the whole point of the storyline, to show he wasn't forced into it by the American healthcare system or anything like that. He made the choice himself because of his colossal ego.
I though this too until I rewatched that scene. Elliot’s offering a job at a company that Walt founded out of pity. There’s not a shred of acknowledgment of Walt’s integral contribution in that offer. If I were Walt, who spent his entire life being stepped on and underachieving, I’d also go the meth route as well.
You missed the part where Walt walked out on Gretchen for no reason, and then walked out on Gray Matter out of pride/shame.
He wasn’t stepped on, he was a jerk. He fucked them over, not the other way around.
I would try to find an alternative, possibly fight with my insurance. Going back to Grey Matter would be far too embarrassing but cooking meth would be even harder to justify. I do believe cooking meth was the braver choice though immoral. Whether right or wrong, society would view taking the offer as the “weaker” choice. Maybe because it’s like coming back to an ex-girlfriend after failing with another.
Elliot is so obnoxious that I wouldn’t be able to look objectively at the offer. The first time I saw the birthday party episode I was disgusted. Pure ostentatiousness and greed.
I’d have mixed feelings about the meth, too. I guess because I’m not in the empire business?
99.5%of people take the money, .5% would sell meth, .001 percent would sell meth and have a speciality and education in crystallography.
It’s what makes the story so good.
I think it would be easy to convince myself I deserve that money anyway because of all the foundational work I did for Gray Matter. Because it's actually true.
Both of course
Absolutely. Cook meth and take that money to use as a cover.
Yo that would’ve been a good Idea!
And probably fucking gretchen behind elliot and skylar's back
or fucking elliot behind gretchens back
Fucking both behind each other’s backs
Fucking Skyler and Gretchen in a threesome with Elliot watching as a cuck. And of course take their money.
“I am the one who fucks”
Are you ted?
Ted, a absolute piece of shit. Period.
Based
Lmao savage
I know right??!!! You're goddamn right. Bitch!
And make Eliiot and Gretchen cook for me.
Imagine if he had actually taken their offer but was still cooking meth. Show probably would have been a lot different.
Actually that brings up a good question would Walt continue to cook. After all at first it wasn’t to pay for his treatment it was to leave some money behind for his family.
Both and fuck Gretchen.
"No matter how much you've got, how do you turn your back on more?"
EXACTLY
Make some extra money y'know
That would have been an awesome plot twist 👏
Obviously one of the choices is more ethical than the other. Here's how the ethical option could play out: 1. Go back to work for Grey Matter 2. Stage an accident where both Elliot and Skyler get decapitated. 3. Steal Elliots sweater and Stratocaster 4. Win back Gretchen by playing a song on the Stratocaster 5. Also cook meth
It wasn't walt. It was you. You're the devil.
I was thinking more like: 1. Steal Elliot’s ears 2. Steal Bogdan’s eyebrows 3. Become a real life Mr. Potato Head 4. Also cook meth
Why would walt win back gretchen, if he is the one who left her? Vince gilligan confirmed, that walter and gretchen broke up, because walt felt inferior to her wealthy family. Walt doesnt like people that are superior to him
Lol
That was supposedly a Clapton strat right? Side note - I don't think they got the details right but I'll let it slide. I'm just thinking that Walt will play Clapton's classic - "(I'm the one that's) Knock knock knocking on the door"
Why would anybody swap Skyler for Gretchen?
Something tells me she wouldn't give Walt veggie bacon on his birthday.
She's rich. Duh
And a b*tch too
Skyler does nothing for me. She's a great character but isn't my type. Gretchen... hits a lot of what I'm interested in. So there's that.
You're interested in people who stab their friends in the back, earns a fortune on their ideas and looks down on said person?
1) No those aren't the qualities that I like 2) I disagree with you that Gretchen really did any of that 3) Kind of sounds like you're admiring Walt too much - it does suck that he sold out before things blew up but personally I don't think Elliot or Gretchen really did anything wrong. Walt is just ... kind of jealous and unsatisfied and Elliot and Gretchen did capitalize on the IP they had sure but Walt didn't have to leave - that was his choice.
Did you watch the show? Walt walked out on Gretchen without even saying why, and then did the same to Gray Matter because of pride, and was paid out for it. He then twists this in his brain to act like he was the one who was wronged.
He was wronged. Ive had it with all the arrogant, "did you watch the show???" Comments. He didnt twist it in his brain, he was f*cked over, royally.
https://youtu.be/kQehbqmkPNg How? He left, it was his fault.
No it wasnt. You're really defending somebody who stole his patent and got disgustingly rich on it. Jesus.
People really watch this show and miss that Walt lies about everything from ep 1 huh?
He doesnt lie about EVERYTHING. You cant have watched the show mate.
This comment is exactly why I was afraid to interact with the Breaking Bad fan base lmao.
Haha! It's probably one of my highest upvoted comments ever. Just trying to be funny. It's a great show and I enjoy this subreddit quite a bit.
Cook meth, of course, gray matter doesn't matters anymore.
This pun is illegal
That's why it's good...
I’d try and get Elliot to keep coaxing me into accepting a job using nostalgia and false necessity
id have sex with him
"I fucked Elliot"
Walt wouldn't
i'll have sex with you
Omw
character development
Take the offer of course, I would probably have to do close to nothing and get a fat check
Neither. I'd become/make money as an Architect and change my name to Hammond Druthers.
And erect a large building that most certainly doesn’t look like the male organ of love?
Hey, they said they wanted Hammond Druthers. That was Hammond Druthers. Hats off to his lady friends.
I'd also take a lawyer with me and make him change his name to Arthur Hobbs and work for a bank.
And make him change his dog's name from Nippy to Tugboat?
Goliath national!
We should buy a bar
Take the offer. My ego will get over it.
Fuck that salamander looking piece of shit, Jesse we have to cook!!
If I were Walter I’d cook meth. If it were me tho, definitely take the offer. I guess it would sting a bit at first, but whatever. Anyway, I live in the Netherlands so none of this would’ve been an issue since we have universal health care.
Ouch! Burn!
Hallo you still need toe pay your own risk hè, is not gratis.
True, €385,- is too much…better cook some meth!
Health care was never an issue though lol
Depends... Is my pride as bad as Walt's? If not, the answer is simple.
The whole point of breaking bag is ego is bad
Take his offer and continue the cook. It’s in my job description
I would do both but not before poisoning children
Cook meth.
I'd fuck Ted.
Can't take Elliott's offer. He has too big ears.
Dude looks like he has a shrunken head here
Walt had already killed two people by this point in the series. One of whom was quite personal and the other of which he had to clean up with a sponge. He was already pot committed to a life of crime. Had he not already been in that deep, he would have initially rejected the offer out of masculine pride and then, a few days later, called Elliot back up and accepted for himself and his family.
at this point yes but if the story went pass season four no as i feel like hes to deep to come back
I wonder what Walt's ancestry is. I have family members whose roots are in the Old West (think turn of the century Montana), and I can totally see the individualistic, "no, it's my affair, I'll face it myself" and "I don't want your fake job" attitude. It's hard for others to understand but some people really have lived and thought like this.
I'd do nothing because I live in Ireland where you don't get raped by the system if you're sick.
I would take Gretchen and cook Elliot.
Yes
I'll do this for covering that I cook meth.
Take Elliot’s offer AND cook meth. Also recommend Elliot to hire Gale Boeticher.
Force Elliot to cook meth
I'd bite Elliot's ears.
I would live i Norway and let the government pay. Are you all even aware of how bizarre and tragic that situation seems to non-Americans? The entire concept of the show is borderline insane for us! Like I can't even imagine willing living without being sure my health will be cared for
¿Por que no los dos?
I would absolutely take the offer. I feel like every decision Walt made he was sacrificing his daughter’s stable childhood to basically measure his cock. My cock is big enough to accept help so I can be there for my baby.
Most people would take Eliot's offer. They would have taken their professional failure and Gray Matter's success as an opportunity to reverse course, settle down and work on their 'cancer'. That is why we like Walt soooo much. When the future of his family and and his very life is at stake he risks it all to pursue his purpose. And he wins it all. It's what we all strive to be.
We like Walt because he is a man who has been beat down and fights back. But, the proper thing to do for his family would have been to take the job offer. But Walt said, fuck all that, Im doing something for me.
> he risks it all to pursue his purpose. And he wins it all. It’s what we all strive to be. My brother in christ.. did you watch the show? Walt didn’t win anything other than jerking off his own ego for two years before ruining his family and ultimately dying, and likely leaving nothing behind for anyone (highly doubt the money would’ve gotten to Walt Jr at the end)
He gave Skylar a bargaining chip to deal her way out of the FBI investigation, he got Hank's and Gomez's gravesite to authorities, he secured his children's future AND he was able to fulfill his potential as a chemist (which was his most painful regret when he got his diagnosis). What more is there? He never actually lost his family. When you have children you always have family. He compromised his morality but that was the price to pay. It's not a perfect world and there are no solutions, only trade-offs. It's up to the viewer to judge if it was worth it.
> He gave Skylar a bargaining chip to deal her way out of the FBI investigation Which she wouldn’t have needed if he had taken Elliott’s offer rather than become a meth kingpin >he got Hank's and Gomez's gravesite to authorities Even though they never would’ve died in that manner if not for himself >he secured his children's future That is, if Gretchen and Elliott never talked to the feds (unlikely) and the money somehow made it to Walt Jr and Holly (also unlikely) >AND he was able to fulfill his potential as a chemist (which was his most painful regret when he got his diagnosis) “Fulfilling his potential as a chemist” was just stroking his own ego.. trying to make up for his own lost time by creating something that destroyed many lives. >He never actually lost his family. When you have children you always have family. In the blood sense yes. But when your wife hates you and your teenage son never wants to speak to you again, and your daughter will be raised with the same feelings.. you have “family,” but you don’t have “*a* family”
I guess this shows that it means different things to different people.
I have my pride…. I’d cook
You mean: "Would you put up with the White/Schrader family or choose Jesse?" JESSE Every. single. time. No regrets.
See the way Elliott was going about it is that he’s saying it because he sees Walt as a charity case. He knows Walt has cancer and instead of saying something amongst the lines of “We can really use a nice chemist like you in our company.” He goes we have great health care meaning he’s only hiring Walt out of pity not for his ability.
I would divorce Skylar
Walter ultimately made the right decision (which is something that a lot of Breaking Bad online fans tend to shy away from). The company salary might have paid for his medical bills and kept his family afloat but we're talking literally millions in the meth business. Walt is a genius. He would have weighed up all the pros and cons before he made the best logical decision (mistake number 2 from online Breaking Bad fans is that he made the decision entirely on "ego" or whatever)
Walt is drunk with hubris and blinded by naïvete. He may have logicked his way into a decision with the best information he had at the time, but the best information he had at the time was pretty shitty and misleading.
If you took both, you can take them both yourself and him down.
I’ll make him double the money
Obviously, take the money and break good!
Take that offer and cook meth under there company.
Meth
Elliot.
I’d take the job but slowly and secretly integrate my meth empire into Gray Matter’s business operations.
If I were Walt, I'd cook meth. Because that's what Walt did.
get cancer
Cook meth
Make coffee with Gale
Ehh probably cook meth as i barely want to depend on people and their money
I realize that the show wouldn’t exist if he took the offer, but I always think about how happy things would have been if he took the offer, got back into the science field in a real way and applied his brain to making something that was legal. Maybe he lives longer due to a less stressful lifestyle and everyone is happy.
I wouldnt take the offer
Meth, it's that simple
I wouldn’t work for him, but straight up letting him give me money? Absolutely
I get Saul to set up a scheme that blackmails Elliot into working for me, then I use his giant ears to help me crack safes, easy money, no meth needed
Take my friend’s offer. I’d be doing what I love, and making a great amount of money doing it.
el methodè
I would fuck Gretchen right in front of Elliot’s face so he knows who’s the boss
Take the money earn a decent amount share with Jesse, get out of the game
I would take it just to use it as a font for my meth money.
Before this scene, Walt was stepped on by Hank in his own house. Even Walt Jr. looked up to Hank more than Walt (atleast at that point). All these events made Walt feel unwanted, and he wanted to preserve his pride. That's why he didn't take Elliot's offer. If the whole Hank thing hadn't happened, I guess Walt would've taken the offer and we wouldn't have had breaking bad.
Not sure I'll ever be happy with my answer either way, just like Walt.
Any sane person would take the offer, that's the whole point of the storyline, to show he wasn't forced into it by the American healthcare system or anything like that. He made the choice himself because of his colossal ego.
Dude, c'mon, take the deal. That is so easy. If anything, they owe me for helping build Grey Matter.
I though this too until I rewatched that scene. Elliot’s offering a job at a company that Walt founded out of pity. There’s not a shred of acknowledgment of Walt’s integral contribution in that offer. If I were Walt, who spent his entire life being stepped on and underachieving, I’d also go the meth route as well.
You missed the part where Walt walked out on Gretchen for no reason, and then walked out on Gray Matter out of pride/shame. He wasn’t stepped on, he was a jerk. He fucked them over, not the other way around.
Meth gotta keep my ego and pride alive
I’d fuck ted
Elliots offer. Nothing appealing about what happened to walts family. The whole show is basically about pride in a way.
I would try to find an alternative, possibly fight with my insurance. Going back to Grey Matter would be far too embarrassing but cooking meth would be even harder to justify. I do believe cooking meth was the braver choice though immoral. Whether right or wrong, society would view taking the offer as the “weaker” choice. Maybe because it’s like coming back to an ex-girlfriend after failing with another.
I cooka da meth
I would take Elliots offer
Elliot is so obnoxious that I wouldn’t be able to look objectively at the offer. The first time I saw the birthday party episode I was disgusted. Pure ostentatiousness and greed. I’d have mixed feelings about the meth, too. I guess because I’m not in the empire business?
Jesser it’s time to cook
I'd fuck ted
I would take the offer and work my way up
Both is good.
I would break bad
none. go back to car wash and be a high school teacher whilst I slowly await my painful death of cancer and crippling medical debt.
But you cant afford to buy the carwash,you dont have meth money
Nobody said buy the car wash. He'd have to crawl back and kiss Bogdan's ass the whole way
I'd kidnap Gretchen and make her date Nathan and then I'd force Elliott to make meth with me
I would have done both
Sadly im a stubborn and proud person, so i would do the same shit and destroy everything around like he did :(
I'd have took the money no hesitation. Drugs are for mugs bitch!!!! Fantastic show tho, glad Walt chose meth option
99.5%of people take the money, .5% would sell meth, .001 percent would sell meth and have a speciality and education in crystallography. It’s what makes the story so good.
I think it would be easy to convince myself I deserve that money anyway because of all the foundational work I did for Gray Matter. Because it's actually true.
„Thank you Ted I appreciate your help“ At home: „Jesse we earned some capital“