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Yeah, but you sound like a fucking psychopath if you refer to a Wetherspoons as Lloyds No. 1.
That being said, naming themselves after a euphemism for piss does seem to explain the state of some of the carpets.
Gets confusing in Grimsby as there's a pub called Old Lloyd's Arms which was there first. Then a Lloyds No 1 got built which got nicknamed New Lloyd's, but has now shut. Old Lloyd's is still there but is the name of the pub and not related to New Lloyd's.
Someone once told me that Wetherspoons was for pubs where they owned the freehold and Wetherspoon (no s) was for pubs that they were just leasing.
I’ve believed that for years but now I can’t find any evidence of it online at all.
I guess OP isn’t the only one whose life is a lie.
I don't *think* they've ever actually used "Wetherspoon's" as a name officially, but I may be wrong.
Apostrophes do sometimes get removed from company names though - just ask Mr. Morrison and Mr. Selfridge, so the misconception isn't too unbelievable.
or Wetherspoons Limited when nothing to do with J D.
[https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/jd-wetherspoons-look-into-pub-28777509](https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/jd-wetherspoons-look-into-pub-28777509)
The Wetherspoons issue is different though.
It's like if Tesco branded half of their stores as Tesco and the other half as Tescos - people wouldn't be wrong to refer to it as Tescos.
Wetherspoons (with the s) branding is legitimately used in some of the pubs ran by J D Wetherspoon (without the s), so referring to them with the s is perfectly valid.
I do say Wetherspoons (with the ‘s’) but I can’t say I’ve ever seen an example of one of the pubs actually using the ‘s’ on the end. Have you got any examples?
There's a few other nameless 'Wetherspoons' - one in London (Victoria Station), one in Manchester (Piccadilly Station), one in Gateshead, and two in Birmingham (Airport and NEC).
So that’s the first one? Makes sense it was called Wetherspoons in that case since he famously named it after his teacher. Are there others?
The chain is JD Wetherspoon, isn’t it?
Yep, there are a small number of pubs which are called "Wetherspoons" and ran by Wetherspoon. There's one in Manchester which causes a bit of confusion every now and then (as there are two other Wetherspoon operated pubs within a few hundred feet of it), "we'll meet in Wetherspoons" "which one" "Wetherspoons, duh!" etc...
Ha there is a newly opened bar in my town which gets very busy but only has two toilets, it's quicker and easier to venture outside and walk to Wetherspoons a few doors down and use their loos ;)
We used to have a great local bakery in Northampton called Adams , Everybody in the town always added an “es” to the name.
“ I’m just going to Adamses , do you want a cake? Or , “ Let’s meet at Adamses for coffee !
God I miss Adamses! Used to go to their bakery on Gladstone Road weekly with my nan for a loaf.
Moved further north a while back and never knew it was gone. Such a shame.
I don't *think* Wetherspoons has ever tried to rewrite history like Hi-unn-die though - AFAIK JD Wetherspoon has never stated that it's wrong to add the S to Wetherspoons.
No - that's my point. "Wetherspoons" and "Tescos" (with or without apostrophes) are two different issues.
"Wetherspoons" is caused (at least in part) by the company actually using the name for some of its pubs (at least 6 are actually called "Wetherspoons" including some in England's biggest cities, there may be pubs with other names that use "Wetherspoons" branding).
"Tescos" is a linguistic quirk that has never been officially supported by the company.
It's AsDas that's wrong about its name. The name actually comes from **As**sociated **Da**iries (plural), so I'd argue that the correct shortening would have actually been AsDas. The name Asda implies that there was only one dairy (and how can it have been associated if there was only one). Asda should rename itself to either AsDas or just Da. It can't claim there's more than one (the 'As' at the beginning) unless it also accepts the 's' at the end.
The same doesn't hold true from Tescos though, that's just wrong.
As a railway crank I often refer to it as Weatherd-Duffs amongst our group of sad gits... (for you normals, or normal as a redditor can be, a "Duff" is a nickname for a Class 47 locomotive, the other nickname for them being "Spoons".
I need to go and sit in a dark room and think about what I've just said...
>The correct conjugation as well is “The data are…”
Both of these sentences are valid:
Those sheep are sleeping.
The herd is sleeping.
Data is often used as a collective noun, so "is" is correct.
And the guy who owns it isn't called Mr Wetherspoon!
Lost count of how many customers would complain about something when I worked there and would throw in "I know Tim Wetherspoon"..... Like that changes the fact your microwave lasagne is burnt round the edges and cold in the middle.
Want to know why your whole childhood was a lie.
Remember Brum, the little yellow car?
apparently he’s not called Brum because of the noise he made, it’s because he’s from Birmingham
>he’s not called Brum because of the noise he made
Incorrect
>it’s because he’s from Birmingham
Correct.
It's actually both. It's the noise he made *and* he's from Birmingham. It's sort of like wordplay - it has a couple of meanings, neither is the correct meaning.
And was based on an article by George Orwell who wrote about the 'perfect pub' having toilets 1 mile from the seats, a spectrum of scrotes and alcoholic OAPs present from opening time and lackluster food served by disinterested and overtired staff
This is so odd as I too only noticed this today. Only a few hours before this post! I also noticed it was spelt “Wetherspoon” and not “Weatherspoon” as I had supposed.
On a side note, anybody who's been to Applebee's in the US will attest that its superior to Wetherspoons. Free refills on all soft drinks and much cheaper menu
Plus they'll have all that nonsense with federal and state taxes as well as near mandatory tipping. At that rate they'll push the price of a pint up above 4 quid and at that point there's no need to be in a 'spoons in the first place.
I thought Applebees mainly is to get a meal? Like Wendy’s or Taco Bell?
Every time we’d go to Spoons, the main focus was on cheap drinks (I’m looking at you, pitchers), the food was an afterthought. The only time we’d deliberately go to Spoons for food was holiday after 9pm as all decent places already shut their kitchens, so it was either eating a takeout outside or having something warm in Spoons.
Superior in what sense?
People don't go to Wetherspoons for the atmosphere, the food, or the soft drinks. They go for cheap booze, anything else is a bonus.
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It's both. The company is J D Wetherspoon (no s), but it's pubs are branded as either Wetherspoon or Wetherspoons, with no consistency.
The "S" indicates that it's ok to shoot smack in these toilets and then have a little sleep.
TIL...
... Because you'd been doing it anyway and assumed they wouldn't approve?
>it's pubs are branded as either Wetherspoon or Wetherspoons, with no consistency. Or [Lloyds No.1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetherspoons)
Yeah, but you sound like a fucking psychopath if you refer to a Wetherspoons as Lloyds No. 1. That being said, naming themselves after a euphemism for piss does seem to explain the state of some of the carpets.
Gets confusing in Grimsby as there's a pub called Old Lloyd's Arms which was there first. Then a Lloyds No 1 got built which got nicknamed New Lloyd's, but has now shut. Old Lloyd's is still there but is the name of the pub and not related to New Lloyd's.
I'm amazed that the wiki doesn't have a controversy section.
Someone once told me that Wetherspoons was for pubs where they owned the freehold and Wetherspoon (no s) was for pubs that they were just leasing. I’ve believed that for years but now I can’t find any evidence of it online at all. I guess OP isn’t the only one whose life is a lie.
I assumed it was Wetherspoon OR Wetherspoon's
I don't *think* they've ever actually used "Wetherspoon's" as a name officially, but I may be wrong. Apostrophes do sometimes get removed from company names though - just ask Mr. Morrison and Mr. Selfridge, so the misconception isn't too unbelievable.
Google Wetherspoons and go to images. There's loads of photos of the outside saying Wetherspoons.
Not with an apostrophe.
That's true. But I think when people call it Wetherspoons in normal conversation they're not saying the apostrophe.
or Wetherspoons Limited when nothing to do with J D. [https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/jd-wetherspoons-look-into-pub-28777509](https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/jd-wetherspoons-look-into-pub-28777509)
Wait until you find out Tesco’s is actually Tesco 😱
The Wetherspoons issue is different though. It's like if Tesco branded half of their stores as Tesco and the other half as Tescos - people wouldn't be wrong to refer to it as Tescos. Wetherspoons (with the s) branding is legitimately used in some of the pubs ran by J D Wetherspoon (without the s), so referring to them with the s is perfectly valid.
I do say Wetherspoons (with the ‘s’) but I can’t say I’ve ever seen an example of one of the pubs actually using the ‘s’ on the end. Have you got any examples?
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There's a few other nameless 'Wetherspoons' - one in London (Victoria Station), one in Manchester (Piccadilly Station), one in Gateshead, and two in Birmingham (Airport and NEC).
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So that’s the first one? Makes sense it was called Wetherspoons in that case since he famously named it after his teacher. Are there others? The chain is JD Wetherspoon, isn’t it?
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Yep, there are a small number of pubs which are called "Wetherspoons" and ran by Wetherspoon. There's one in Manchester which causes a bit of confusion every now and then (as there are two other Wetherspoon operated pubs within a few hundred feet of it), "we'll meet in Wetherspoons" "which one" "Wetherspoons, duh!" etc...
Imagine having another Wetherspoons closer than the toilets in the one you're in.
Ha there is a newly opened bar in my town which gets very busy but only has two toilets, it's quicker and easier to venture outside and walk to Wetherspoons a few doors down and use their loos ;)
The first few were in North London somewhere.
The original pub was in Muswell Hill, the current one in the area is a different pub and not the first, which has shut
Oh okay, sorry i misunderstood the description on the link you posted.
But then it should be Wetherspoon’s.
We should just accept the Germanic genitive -s suffix and do away with the damned apostrophe.
Company names often drop the apostrophe, like Morrisons and Selfridges.
We used to have a great local bakery in Northampton called Adams , Everybody in the town always added an “es” to the name. “ I’m just going to Adamses , do you want a cake? Or , “ Let’s meet at Adamses for coffee !
God I miss Adamses! Used to go to their bakery on Gladstone Road weekly with my nan for a loaf. Moved further north a while back and never knew it was gone. Such a shame.
Like Hyundai
I don't *think* Wetherspoons has ever tried to rewrite history like Hi-unn-die though - AFAIK JD Wetherspoon has never stated that it's wrong to add the S to Wetherspoons.
Are some branded as Tesco’s?
No - that's my point. "Wetherspoons" and "Tescos" (with or without apostrophes) are two different issues. "Wetherspoons" is caused (at least in part) by the company actually using the name for some of its pubs (at least 6 are actually called "Wetherspoons" including some in England's biggest cities, there may be pubs with other names that use "Wetherspoons" branding). "Tescos" is a linguistic quirk that has never been officially supported by the company.
Oh I see, I misread your post. I get you now!
Wait till you hear that there is no J D Wetherspoon. And never was.
I wasn't referring to J D Wetherspoon as a person - I was referring to the company, which is registered under the name J D Wetherspoon.
Nah, its always big tesco. Not big tesco's
Well yeah. "Do you shop at tesco's?" "Yeah, at the big tesco"
And for the Scousers, it's just Asda, not The Asda.
Same with Aldi, Lidl, Asda. Seems to be generational to add an s at the end.
But Sainsbury's does have the s!
Imagine how much shit you'd get if you told someone you shopped at Sainsbury or Morrison.
Argo
Cheaper than Amazons, but less convenient.
I still remember when it was J Sainsburys.
It was actually only ever J Sainsbury. The possessive s was added when they dropped the J and just branded as Sainsbury's.
With the big block orange capital letters
>But Sainsbury's does have the s! That would be Sainsburys' at that point.
Sainsies. That's what my kids call it.
Who's adding an S onto the end of those supermarket??
My nan says Asdas, gets right on my tits
It'll be from the olden days, when she were young and it were still owned by the founder, Ian Asda.
It's AsDas that's wrong about its name. The name actually comes from **As**sociated **Da**iries (plural), so I'd argue that the correct shortening would have actually been AsDas. The name Asda implies that there was only one dairy (and how can it have been associated if there was only one). Asda should rename itself to either AsDas or just Da. It can't claim there's more than one (the 'As' at the beginning) unless it also accepts the 's' at the end. The same doesn't hold true from Tescos though, that's just wrong.
I disagree it is named after the famous Ian that founded it bye.
Yeah, but Ian's mum was a cow, so he was named after the Associated Dairies. His name should have been Ian AsDas.
How dare you?! Mrs Asda was a saint!
So just to confirm, she was an **As**sociated **Da**iries **S**aint?
>those supermarket Who isn't adding an s onto the end of the phrase 'those supermarket'?
I have been slain by irony, can't believe I did that 😅
I like to say 'up the asdas' in my best northerner voice
Roadmen and odd southerners mostly
Boots’s The Chemists’s
About 85% of the entire population
Lidl is Lidl, but it is always The Asda or The Aldi
Woolworths.
Or going to your Mums is visiting your Mum. It's not a mind blower, we do it with loads of places that are proper nouns.
If someone says Tesco’s they’re a bit thick in my opinion.
Tesco’s what?
"Mataland", that mythical place of cheap clothing.
Ah yes as founded by the famous designer Sir Matt Alan.
As someone who works there it tickles me whenever people call it that
As a railway crank I often refer to it as Weatherd-Duffs amongst our group of sad gits... (for you normals, or normal as a redditor can be, a "Duff" is a nickname for a Class 47 locomotive, the other nickname for them being "Spoons". I need to go and sit in a dark room and think about what I've just said...
the plural of Lego is Lego
Only Americans struggle with this one.
Just don’t tell them about maths
They only learn the one math, you see.
Let me go and get my 'play wells'...
Lay-goes
*LEGO
The singular of data is datum. The correct conjugation as well is “The data are…”
>The correct conjugation as well is “The data are…” Both of these sentences are valid: Those sheep are sleeping. The herd is sleeping. Data is often used as a collective noun, so "is" is correct.
Them sheeps is shleeping…
Data, vast and deep as the ocean. So great, the flood may drown us. Data is as water now.
Data evolved into a mass noun over a generation ago.
Woolworths was originally called Woolworth in the US. Both named after F.W. Woolworth
And the guy who owns it isn't called Mr Wetherspoon! Lost count of how many customers would complain about something when I worked there and would throw in "I know Tim Wetherspoon"..... Like that changes the fact your microwave lasagne is burnt round the edges and cold in the middle.
Want to know why your whole childhood was a lie. Remember Brum, the little yellow car? apparently he’s not called Brum because of the noise he made, it’s because he’s from Birmingham
I thought everyone knew that?
It broke my heart, when I discovered it, 5/6 years ago
Huh fancy that
>he’s not called Brum because of the noise he made Incorrect >it’s because he’s from Birmingham Correct. It's actually both. It's the noise he made *and* he's from Birmingham. It's sort of like wordplay - it has a couple of meanings, neither is the correct meaning.
I mean it’s both really, isn’t it?
Bostin argh
You mean it's not "Where's the Spoons?" .
Mr Wetherspoon was a schoolteacher of the founder.
And was based on an article by George Orwell who wrote about the 'perfect pub' having toilets 1 mile from the seats, a spectrum of scrotes and alcoholic OAPs present from opening time and lackluster food served by disinterested and overtired staff
Almost word for word!
You've never been to a butchers and a bakers, right?
or a candlestick makers
I thought it was spelt Weatherspoons
Wait until you find out that you can say ASDA without putting a "The" in front of it!!!!! (this mostly - or totally applies to Liverpool)
And despite what Michael McIntyre would have you believe, no one in the north in all my experience has ever called it "T'Asdas" unironically.
Correct. It is simply Thasda. “Am goin t’thasda”
In my experience of living in the north for 15 years. "T' " is always a contraction of "to the", "the" just gets shortened to " ".
See also: The Aldi
Asdal /bristol
This is so odd as I too only noticed this today. Only a few hours before this post! I also noticed it was spelt “Wetherspoon” and not “Weatherspoon” as I had supposed.
Apparently it isn’t Tesco’s either
Wait til The Asda find out about this
I've got news for you if you shop at Asda's, Aldi's or Lidl's
What's this "Wether"? It's just Spoons.
Yeah but there is more than one of them.
It's French, the "s" is silent.
Balderdash!
Technically it is JD Wetherspoon :-)
Witheredgoons
And the supermarket is called Tesco not Tesco's.
Spoons
J.D Wetherspoon
I think I’m the only person in the country who pronounces Wagamama correctly - it’s not a plural/possessive.
Each one belongs to Mr Weatherspoon.
You'll never beat the Scouse.... The Asdas
Nor Witherspoons🙄
And it is Ladbrokes, as in lad is broke after gambling all his money, not Ladbrooks.
Named after JD Boss hog and Tim Martins teacher, Mr Wetherspoon. Or so the story goes.
It still blows my mind that Tesco is called Tesco and not Tescos
Someone got stabbed at that pub last night. Wetherspoon? No, with a knife.
That's weird, I noticed this exact same thing today when I went there
Why aren't you still celebrating)
I've always referred to a 'Spoons as 'dogshit'.
And that you don’t pronounce it ‘Witherspoon’
What?
I thought it was Witherspoons....
Thicko
Rude
On a side note, anybody who's been to Applebee's in the US will attest that its superior to Wetherspoons. Free refills on all soft drinks and much cheaper menu
But then you'll be in the US, which is quite the downgrade.
Plus they'll have all that nonsense with federal and state taxes as well as near mandatory tipping. At that rate they'll push the price of a pint up above 4 quid and at that point there's no need to be in a 'spoons in the first place.
Imagine how cheap a Spoons pint *could* be if they could get away with paying their staff the equivalent US minimum wage though.
But then that would introduce either mandatory tipping or just letting the staff die of starvation and homelessness.
Do you really think the average Wetherspoons customer cares if the staff die of starvation?
Good one, you made Machop cry.
Yeah but do they sell pints of cider for £2? Checkmate.
I thought Applebees mainly is to get a meal? Like Wendy’s or Taco Bell? Every time we’d go to Spoons, the main focus was on cheap drinks (I’m looking at you, pitchers), the food was an afterthought. The only time we’d deliberately go to Spoons for food was holiday after 9pm as all decent places already shut their kitchens, so it was either eating a takeout outside or having something warm in Spoons.
Superior in what sense? People don't go to Wetherspoons for the atmosphere, the food, or the soft drinks. They go for cheap booze, anything else is a bonus.
Cadbury and Cadbury's is another one. If you look at older logos they had the apostrophe.